July 29, 2025 • 45 mins
The First Family of Marvel has finally taken their First Steps in the MCU! The Fantastic Four: First Steps was just released in the theaters, and Hayley and BVK are here to review it and compare it the the comics, FF: Life Story, that were read as a primer. IT'S... wait for it... here it comes... CLOBBERIN' TIME!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now on Source Pages. Haley and I have both
seen Fantastic four First Steps, and we are here to
review it and compare it to the comics we read
as the primer. But first.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's time for the podcast. Welcome back, my fellow citizens
of Earth eight to eight. I'm Hailey Hobbes.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And I'm Brian V. Klein, and this is the.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Source Pages where we read comics and novels as primers
for geeky TV shows and movies like the brand new
Fantastic four movie. And it was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And there was four of them for a while in.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The podcast Bye See next Week exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
That was it. I had a hard time, and I
think we mentioned it a bit in the primer. Who
was Was it Franklin in the primer or was it
Nathaniel In the primer? It was Franklin, Okay, so we
kept talking about I was sitting there thinking, I'm like,
oh my god, we messed this up.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So funny. When you said that, I was like, there's
something about that that doesn't quite seem right. But then
I was like, but it's fine. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
They're both kids, Nathaniel's, so yeah, Franklin ends up becoming
like a psionic commutant and uh frank or Nathaniel becomes
King the Conquerors. So this is this is the this
is the one from the preview or from the primer
and in the movie is Franklin who was their first
(01:42):
born Nathaniel.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We knew what we met. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Last week. There was a lot of stuff going on
and uh, well six of them was good. But it
was just like so dense and so, I mean, we
got through it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We were good sixty years.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Is it just me or does this seem like the
most lackluster San Diego Comic Con weekend I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I haven't seen a ton from it yet. I haven't
had time to delvi in. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't think anything major got announced or anything, because
no one. I mean the biggest thing I saw that
had any kind of significance was Queen Latifa introducing George
Lucas at the panel yesterday, and that was pretty much it.
I didn't see anything from anywhere else, even like the
toy stuff that I follow, like with Funko and Hasbro.
(02:31):
It was like they announced like four new Hasbro figures
and like a handful of I mean, there were some
cool Star Wars funko pops that were that I shared
with the group that they're finally finally making that Canaan
with the blind Canaan with the shield and stuff. Yeah,
they they announced that back at celebration like in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I don't know. I saw that they did like an
Outlander panel, which was relevant because Ashley and I rewatching
it over on all, always watching, so go check that out,
and the last season's coming out next spring, but like that,
so that was relevant to me. But I didn't I
haven't had time to read anything much about it yet,
just saw some videos and so yeah, it seems and
I haven't looked. I haven't had time to see like
(03:15):
what was the big book news, what was the big
comic news. So I don't know. I only saw the
book that Mike Chin is doing for Star Wars that's
a prequel to the Outlaws game, which I know nothing about.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Hmm, So yeah, that is uh, it just it was weird.
Maybe the the Disney stuff is because I think D
twenty three is in August, yeah, August twenty ninth to
thirty first, so maybe they're waiting to drop. But it
was just like Normally San Diego is like the big thing.
(03:50):
You're gonna see a few big thing, but it's like
Celebration was just a couple of months ago. D twenty
three is coming up and nobody else was even.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
There in theaters and Fantastic fours in theaters, so it's
kind of like, h we're busy, we'll catch you next year.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah. So it's just sort of like cause I was
looking at it even talking because normally my phone and
other stuff is blowing up. I had a friend message me,
He's like, wasn't San Diego Comic Con this weekend? I
was like, yeah, nothing, don't worry, you didn't miss anything.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I hope it's not indicative of the future of it,
like hopefully, hopefully it's just the year that we're in,
you know, like maybe next year we'll be back to
quote normal whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Right, Maybe some people or most of the studios don't
have anything, because I think there's been times Marvel Is,
the Marvel and Star Wars and DC they're all guilty of,
you know, putting news too far forward and then yeah,
(04:51):
falling back at it later to change or to you know,
cancel it. And so now it's sort of just like
they're waiting until stuff is got not like we're working
on something with this person and it's supposed to come
out then, and then all of a sudden, it's just
like because by now we should have had like three
Star Wars movies already, and it's well, if.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I had that roundtable with journalists and he I guess
there were like lockers and wherever they were having the interview,
and he was like, yeah, behind those locked doors and
those lockers is like the plan for the next seven
years of MCU. So I think it's like you're saying,
maybe that just the strategy is changing where we're not
(05:31):
putting it all out there right away, which is we're
learning from past mistakes. We're learning from the mistakes of
what happened with Kang and Blade and all that stuff.
So yeah, Blade is happening, right.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I also saw that there was certain things that may
or may not like ever come to fruition, like Charlie's
then in anything in the MCU or Harry Styles or
any of these characters that were teased as far as stuff.
I think that's what their thing is is that when
stuff isn't hitting and Fantastic four did relatively well at
(06:05):
the box office. It didn't do Gangbusters, it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Did Superman Thursday night previous.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Right, I think it ended up being under Superman for
the three day weekend though, So it's just I know,
but that's the thing is though, it's just like they're
not guaranteed, you know, billion dollar movies anymore, you know.
I think this is right now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I think the norm for a superhero movie is becoming
half a billion.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Right, not but when the budget is like two hundred million,
half a billion is pretty much we're barely making any
money on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So that's why there's a lot more advertisers now.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, and I did know that, like, like AMC has
even said they're like, there's we're just letting you know,
there's going to be at least a half an hour
from the time that like if your movie's supposed to
if your movie starts at four forty five, it's going
to be five point fifteen before the actual movie starts.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Just now coming out and saying that that's been.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The going right for a while, Well, I know there's
sometimes in some of the AMC is the smaller ones
around here, where it's like there's two previews and I
told you about this one where we watched one. I
think it was when we want to go see What
kind of Forever? And the second trailer was for a
new novel, the sequel, and it was for Angels and Demons,
(07:23):
which came out like in two thousand and nine or eight,
and it was the trailer for that. It was like
fifteen years old. And I'm sitting there going, why does
Tom Hanks look so young? Why does wait a second,
Obi wan Kenobi looks you and looks really, oh my god,
what is going on here? And then they just played
like a really old trailer, but they did throw us
a little bit of a loop. I don't know about
you ors, like I saw I at AMC. So they
(07:45):
did other previews and then they do the AMC thing,
and then they do the Nicole Kidman thing, which I loved.
That Nicole Kidman thing now was like twenty seconds or
half thirtiese thing. And then they were like, please remember
to do your no, turn your phones off this and
that they're getting ready, and then they dropped the trailer
for Avatar Fire, which.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I like, so don't care about.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, I'm interested to see the way of Water. It's
been out for two years now or a year and
a half, it's been on the class.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's just like I watched the first Avatar and I
was like, I don't understand why people are obsessed with us,
But that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Avatar was great in the theater because it was like
a vacation because that was when that new three D,
which was the inward or the depth instead of coming
at you type stuff where it was like this is
It felt like a vacation when I watched a movie.
Then at my cousin's house, after we got the Blu
ray and stuff, we're watching it, going this movie isn't
(08:43):
very good, and then we start thinking like, oh my god,
this is totally Pocahontas and dances with wolves and now
I know why they're going it dances with spool or Smurfs,
and it's like the action it's visually stunning. Yeah I
heard the second one.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No it's not. It was visually stunned back then. Now
it's just the going, you know whatever. But I don't
care about Avatar. Sorry, I sorry for people who like it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, and I never saw I never saw a way
of water and so fire and Ash to me is
just like, I.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Mean, how many times are we telling the same story?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And I don't, Yeah, because now it was like there's
a new it all takes place on Pandora now and
that's all I realized. And when you look at it,
it's just like it just looks the same as the
other two movies. A lot of blues, a lot of greens,
a lot of just the mechs and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But hey, whatever, but things we won't be covering on
this podcast the Avatar movies.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
No, and if you want to, I mean there's probably
enough other I don't know if when it came out
last year, if it was like done on any one
of the network shows that do the movie. So there
you go. Anyway, anyways you want to just get right into.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
The needs different blue deemed things.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, we're going to talk about the Smurfs movie that
just came out too week.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, voice, it was great. More things we'll never see.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I probably I didn't even realize that it had come out,
and then I'm looking at him like, oh my god,
this movie is like bombing.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh did it?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah? Like I don't even think it opened in uh
this past week, Smurfs has been out for ten days
and over the weekend, it did twenty two million.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh, they shouldn't have released it in July. What a mistake.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, I'm just hold lot. It's done. It's done twenty
two million overall this past weekend. It did one point
six million on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Probably let that go in August.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, because it's it's not even doing It's.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Up against three huge blockbusters.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, and the fact that right now is still like
how you're turning your Dragon and Lelo and Stitch are
pulling in money and F one is still pulling in
money in dress I mean Jurassic World. I Know What
You Did Last Summer's bombing too, which is fine because
that reminds me of like Scream or some of those
other ones where they don't number. The thing it's like,
is this is the fourth movie called I Know What
You Did Last Summer? Is a continuation? Do they keep
(11:13):
rebooting it? I don't know. Let me know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Care, but you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Interesting, but no, Fantastic four, the Fantastic four first steps. Yeah,
h hot take, go, Haley.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Hot take. It takes fantastic truly like what a well done,
extremely well written, like tightly formed film. That I felt
very immersed in the world immediately. I felt connected to
the characters. I was totally bought into everything that was happening. Like,
(11:53):
I loved it. I thought it was great.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It had by far, and I think it was the
originality of it too. The way that they did the
origin story for them in that recap on the talk
show was perfect because it was just like it felt
in place with the movie. It didn't feel out of place.
Everyone really knows it. But sometimes there's little you know, sure,
(12:16):
there's things that are different, especially like in the comics
we read about like Ben Grimm didn't know them beforehand
and he blamed them a lot for it, and sometimes
it's just like, uh, he's been a family friend the
whole time, and then Johnny was brought on this and
then you know, blah blah blah blah blah. They just did.
Maybe it was what ninety seconds of them introducing them
(12:36):
on that talk show and it was like, here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, it was so great. It's you know, have you
seen Superman yet?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Okay, So anyway, I'm gonna have to see it soon
because that's gonna be our reviewing yea next week.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So you can. We saw this with Spider Man Homecoming.
You can do the origin story without doing the whole
origin story for the whole movie. You can do the
movie without doing the origin story, but you still have
to do some of the origin story, and you have
to do it in such a way that people who
(13:11):
know don't care, like they're they're like okay, yeah, good check,
and people who don't know are like, oh, I feel
like I understand everything I need to know. And I
think the Fantastic Forward did a really good job of that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
First they did a fantastic jab. It sort of reminded
me too of a lot of the times how the
The Lord of the Rings movies. The intro did a
little bit of like, here's a quick backstory, here's a
little bit what's going on in the time, and then
go more into.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It now because you have to understand the character's motivations
for what's going on for the rest of the film,
because if you don't feel like you know who they
are and why they do the things they do, I
don't think the story works. And I just think that
this just I think it was so good. I love
it so much, and I loved how like the humor
was very understated, which very much felt like Wanda Vision
(13:59):
with mattcha At that directorship as well. You know, I
just I felt Matt Shackman's fingertips all over it and
just all of the best ways. Like I really would
love to see him. I'd love to see what he
can do outside of a period piece in the MCU,
because I bet he could do anything really well, because
I love WandaVision so much and I just think he
(14:22):
knows how to direct. I mean, this was less than
two hours.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's crazy. That's my only gripe with this is not
that it didn't It didn't feel rushed. It didn't feel
like they could have done more, but I wanted more.
I wanted it was one of those things where I
was like, it's over now. Yeah, going back to your
thing about the humor. The humor fit perfectly because it
was mainly done with like Ben and Johnny.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, and you never saw the like Dickie like. It
was very like it was intelligently written humor, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Right, It was within their characters, you know, personalities and traits,
and they also dropped a Dave Filoni type thing where
I think it was when they had to convince Moleman
to bring everyone to Subterranea and he made some comment
and then Herbie you could hear him, You could hear
him basically say WTF in his Yeah, just like Chopper
(15:21):
where you could just you could tell what they're saying
by the inflection. Yeah, So it was just like Herbie
didn't I thought he was going to be like a
comic relief type thing, but he was his.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
He was needed to beat them at all.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, especially when you were on the ship. There's a
couple of things, the science of the whole, you know,
some of the stuff. And this is what Liz brought
up to is that there's a obviously in advancement and
signs with them because they've got a light light drive
and they can go to space and they could have ring.
(15:56):
But yeah, they got a hyperspace ring. Specially when I
saw that, I'm like, where's Obi Wan in the Jedi Starfighter.
But in that same sense, it still has that sixties
aesthetic where a lot of the stuff, the graphics on it,
it's like Star Wars in a way where it's like
it's technology, it's advanced, but for the time it looks
like this is not what advanced technology looks like in
that sense, so it does have that retro futuristic look
(16:21):
where I'm assuming that it was probably taking place right
around the same time as the Space Race late sixties
because what he.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Did, No, they did, but I never questioned it either.
I didn't know, you know. It was just like, oh,
this is just the time they live in and they're
just more advanced. Like, Okay, I get it, it works
for me.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
But what they did was in the at the end
of the movie when they did the four years later
in the mid credit scene, that definitely had that brown
orange seventies look. Yeah, which makes sense. If it's a
four year times jump, then it makes because then I'm
talking with Liz and we're like, but it doesn't mean
that every Earth is the same advance in the decades,
(17:01):
because right now is if this is taking I'm still
thinking that this is taking place on Earth A two eight, which,
by the way, I love the fact that that was
what Jack Kirby's birthday is August twenty eighth, and so
they brought that into it. How are they gonna again,
this is not brought over to our the The main
timeline is six one six right, Yeah, it's not brought
(17:23):
over to it yet. We're still they're still in there.
Thing we still don't know. At the end of Thunderbolts,
that ship that came through FIGI said, it might not
be the ones we're seeing in this the Fantastic Four
we're seeing in this movie because the ship is different
and uh. But then also it's like we see some
pivotal i mean end credit scene, especially our mid credit
(17:46):
scene boom, we get Doctor Doom, which, by the way,
I thought was great every time they did the Future
Foundation stuff that this spot was completely empty.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So so to go back to your the thing about
the time period, you know what it is, Here's what
it is. It's comics brought to life because these comics
were coming out in the sixties, but everybody was more
advanced in the comics than they are in real life,
and they just live in that world like that's all
that is, right.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They're using that, they're using that, you know what they
can in the they're using that in what they had
back then. Same thing like with Star Wars is that
they couldn't predict what at this time when the stuff
was coming out, what the future is going to look.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Like when it would really happen.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, I remember we were promised jet packs, right, yeah, no,
especially like in eighty five. Back to the Future is
ten years ago now, and a lot of that stuff
that from there now, there's.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
A lot of stuff that has five more than ten
years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh no, back to the future they jumped. When they
jumped to twenty fifteen, it's forty years ago now. So
oh yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I love that, Like you talk about comics coming to life,
like that's what that is, and that's that's very cool.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes, it might actually take the place of I've always
thought that Captain America the First Avenger is the best
comic book movie where it takes comic book stuff and
puts it into the movie form almost like perfectly. This
one did a lot of st I think the only
(19:24):
thing I may not bring it is the it's just
still new. Although this is the first Marvel movie maybe
since Quantumnia, or even back since Endgame that I want
to go right away and see this movie again. I
wanted to like go back, and you know before when
I was seeing the movies, you know, I saw Endgames
(19:45):
three and a half hours long. I saw in the
theaters fifteen times. This was just like, I want to
see this again.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So as soon as over, I was like I could
watch it all over again, like right now. I don't
disagree about it, Like I hear what you're saying about
In America, I tried not to view the movies that
way because I think that's why so many people get
trapped and thinking that, Like not that you think this
because you don't, but like I think so many people
are like, well, they didn't do it like the comics,
(20:11):
and so it's bad, and it's like, no, it's a
whole different medium, and it's an adaptation, just like anything
else is an adaptation of some written material, and by
the very nature that means that it's going to be different.
And it's okay, everybody, I promise it's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh yeah, Not that I was saying. I was saying
that it's good that they can do it like that,
but they don't need to have that framework or that blueprint. Yeah,
it's just that this thing felt like I was emotionally
invested in the first I was like welling up and
getting like sort of like teary eyed at the beginning,
(20:50):
not from anything that was happening. It was like tears
of joy, almost going like oh my god, they're doing this.
Oh my god, they're doing this. I mean, I had
to fight myself back and I held this his hand.
When you know, Sue's sitting there and they're freaking out
because she's not breathing.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Streaming down my face, I'm like, they killed her.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
They're gonna they could use the multiverse.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
A baby for a minute, I'll kill.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
They killed Sue. And then all of a sudden, she
was sitting there and they did that well enough to
where he was like laying on her chest and was
sort of just like being a baby. And then all
of a sudden, I know if it was her eyes
or his eyes, when they like went like clear, like
like opaque, I'm like, Okay, something's happening here. Because they
(21:35):
put him down on her.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I was like, oh, yeah, the baby has.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Powers, that's right, right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
But like I was so engrossed and what else was
going on that I did just temporarily forget. Oh, this
baby is the whole point of like what Galactic is
trying to do, has all these powers, like so I
just I was totally into it the whole, the whole way.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I think though, And I love because they they kept
subverting the like they kept failing in a sense like
he was counting down boom, They're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
This the earth that was not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
No, well, that was the thing I was thinking of,
like maybe they were and that's how they get into
six one six is, you know, universe. But then he
comes silver Surfer and busting everything down except for the
main one. And then even then him being like uh
no thanks guys, like he was about to step on it.
And then he's like, oh, you moved the kid. That's
(22:30):
the first thing I said. When they moved the kid
back to the the the Baxter building, I'm going he's
gonna glactics is going to recognize that it's not there
because he focused in on it. Now you just have
an empty bass in that. Yeah, is there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Too soon, Like come on, guys, Yeah, mistake.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And then even that just you know, hey, Johnny Storm
Playboy extraordinary, which by the way, I thought it was
awesome when they used his powers of being able to
like suck the flames up like they didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He was the one that saved the day. He was
the one that figured out the language he was the
one that got Silver Surfer to basically.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Like a change of Silver Heart.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, and then just be like, well, Galactus is gonna
be we don't know where. That's the thing that kind
of sucks though too. It's like, Okay, Galactus is gone.
It's someone else's problem.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Now, but I've done that the whole MCU I know.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
But that's the thing is too. A lot of times
when you see this as like oh, yeah, we're using
these wormholes to suck power from another universe to power ours,
it's like, yeah, but you're destroying another part of somewhere,
So now there's gonna be another you know, universe that
might be able to be like, uh.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Crap, because how is how is Galactus? I've read comics
where he's defeated by thor Am I crazy? Am I
making that up?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I know squirrel Girl beat?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So there's more than you know. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean I think I will say, since we're on Galactus,
the idea of Galactus is ridiculous, right, This is a
ridiculous character. And I mean, you go, how are they
gonna the way they did him? Like how the planet
is fuel for his machine, which ends up being like
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what feeds him and powers him. I was like, that
is so smart and it makes sense and it's not
stupid looking, Like whoever came up with that is a genius.
Because I was like, how are they going to do
Galactus without it being the goofiest thing you've ever seen
in your life? Like, oh, you know, I'm eating a planet. No,
they did it smart, Like I just it was so good.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They did that whole thing though, too, where it's just like, Okay,
Galactus is on the other side of the universe, which
we know that because of the whole they drink, the
power got drained, and then they had to slingshot and
almost go into the black hole and blah blah blah
blah or the at the black hole the Singularity, Well
it's a black hole, is pretty much. It was, yeah,
these are but then they they they the Galactus ship
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shows up at the edge or our Solar system. Right,
It's like, why doesn't it show up right by Earth
movie exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Passing me, passing Mars. I guess you could argue, like,
if you want to add canon, it takes so much
power that I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, because the only thing is because I remember they
were like, we got to do it this here and
pull it in because this way the Silver Surfer will
be close enough to start getting sucked into the Singularity
and then it's going to be like it's gonna take
her a month to get out. And then so then
they slingshot and they escape and they're on their way home.
But then next thing you know, it's like, isn't the
Silver Surfer is back in Galactus's ship saying, uh, I've messed.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Up well because she has the power cosmic right, but
they thought it did take them a month to get.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Back Okay, for a month to get back there. So
by the time then when that's right, because when they
got back there, like, oh they're a month away. The
fact that they the first thing they said was yeah,
we have an option to save the world, and it
would need to give up our new baby, and they
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said no. I wouldn't be surprised that they didn't riot
right then and just take the baby and say, screw
you guys, We're going to hold this. Maybe it's a
little more civilizers, because the Fantastic Four has literally saved
them multiple a.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Little more civilized. Here was a question I had, were
they the only superheroes on that Earth.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm assuming so because.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
There seemed like it there was no other.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Even back in the sixties, you would have had, you know,
Spider Man, Captain America, Iron Man, any of those things.
So maybe they're that this isn't busy. Yeah, I mean,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Everything was happening in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It was fine, exactly, That's what I was saying. It's
like it was New York, so everything's cool.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Uh. Visually, this film is beautiful, Like I tell they
did so much practical and it looked so good and
it made like all of the buttons and stuff like
they just did such a good job. You just I
just felt so immersed in the world. And some of
the cgi, like some of the explosions were not great,
but I was like, I don't even care because the
rest of the world looks good. Silver Surfer looks amazing,
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like she had some they had some beautiful shots of her,
like when she's kneeling down on her surfboard to talk
to Johnny. It's like straight out of comics. It's like,
this is so cool. So just can't say enough about
the production design.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And the first thing when they're sitting there talking about
It was like they're getting all serious in this, and
then Johnny's like, but I want to know if the
surfboard is part of her or if it's like a thing,
and he was just going on about that.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He was stuck on them.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I saw a couple of people complaining a bit about
the initial birth, Franklin looking like the cgi of the
baby was really like freaky looking. Wow, yes, you're not
going to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's like strange sometimes I'm just gonna say it's that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I've seen recently. In the final season of The Squid,
the cg on the baby was like really creepy, like
it made it look like from Twilight, Like, oh, just
but I didn't. I didn't think anything of it because otherwise,
what's the rule, Like, you can't have a newborn in
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a movie anyway? They have to be at least like
six months old or three months old or something.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, I mean no, hardly any newborns on movies and
TV or actual newborns. I think they picked the baby
that had just the biggest eyes so that it would
look like Vanessa Kirby's baby. I think the big gooney
eyes didn't do it in its favors. I'm sure it'll
grow into them at some point, which.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
By the way, for the future dialect coaches who uh
train and the Storm siblings, ye get them to do
every British act they did not. I totally completely forgot
to him like that, Eddie, I call him Eddie Tony Storms,
Joseph Quinn and Vanessa Kirby are both British and I
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don't think anything bad about Better and Cumberbatch as an actor,
but his doctor strange accent is not good.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's not great. It's gotten a little better.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, But I'm just saying is that sometimes it's just
like you completely forget, because I've always said it's like
you're you're hardly ever gonna see you know, Brits can
play Americans in movies, but it's rare that Americans, I
mean outside of like Mike Myers playing Austin Powers, but
that was just a character. It's not like they're going
to go in and do like Americans aren't usually cast
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as Hamlet or you know, in a British version of things, because.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's sort of like, I mean, we can't go down
the Shakespeare Oute because you can do Shakespeare in any.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Right, like you think that if an American became James
Bond Americans or the Doctor.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
John Lithgow is like very famous I think for his
but he played the Prime Minister during World War Two.
His name is chur that's his name.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And also John Lithgow is gonna is Dumbledore, Yeah, Dumbledore
in the New Harry Potter thing. So I mean that's
an American that's sort of like because there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Of do it. But I think it's hard because of
the way we pronounce some of our words, especially are
our rs. That's the hard that's a hard run for
the Brits. So yeah, they did a great job. I
want to talk about Eben moss Backrock as the Thing
because what I've seen a lot of people saying is
that they didn't feel connected to him, and I'm like, oh,
(30:29):
I disagree. I thought they did such a good job
of making you feel how like warm he is and
kind he is and smart and caring and in that
character with as little time as we got with the
actual Eben moss Backrock on screen, like we hardly see him,
and then I just I thought he killed it as
the thing. I loved him.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
No, I think we see him more. We only see
him in like the flashbacks and the one time when
he's walking and he sees like the TV screen and
it's showing you know, men, he can grow it a
hell of a beard though, was like that whole thing.
I have a question too about the energy and the electricity.
But then again it's like, yeah, it's movie type stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, we just go with it. The that's for the
saving of the entire planet. You know, you just have
to accept things as they are.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You have to take into consideration. Like we mentioned earlier,
that this is an earth that is a lot more
unified as an earth because it has these these characters, right.
You know, I've seen people I don't get political and
everything like that, but I've seen some people being like,
you know, talking to Southern people now, especially with this
whole ice thing, They're like, what would happen if Jesus
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showed up today, And they're like, well, he's born in
the Middle East, if he has his papers, that'd be okay.
It's like, oh, man, okay, well, yep, I'm not going
to go down that road. But you just know, I'm
just saying it's like, I'm not going to go down
that I was just bringing up a point that that's
not how they would.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
This Earth seems like a kind their place.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, it seems like it's a little bit more unified
because of the fact that these guys are there to
protect them. And you know, yeah, they could end up
just going like, screw you guys, I'm done. Yeah, but no,
they went into it because they I.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Mean, her speech when she takes Franklin out of the
building is beautiful. You know what she says, Uh, I'm
not giving up my son for this planet. And I'm
not giving up this planet for my son. Like what
a great I mean, perfect, beautiful. Pr Sue, you're the best.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
The writing was I think at first the way that
they that was there. They're not in the in the
movie itself, but in the movie, their misstep was when
uh Reid was like, yeah, we could save it. It's
given up our kid, right, and then they pretty much
like ended it walked away and everyone was like wait
(32:54):
what But.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It made sense because they just shoved him in front
of the microphone. He was like, are we gonna prepare
and they're like no, just I'm up here and do
this and say something. And it was the wrong thing
to do, like they should have given. They should have
been like, what's the situation and let's okay, well let's
not say that, let's say this, and so that all
made sense, you know what I mean, Like the writing
made everything made sense. I didn't question. I didn't question
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even the ridiculous things because they explained it right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Anything that could have been a little bit like of
a loose end it was.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You know, there was like nothing hand wavy about this movie. No,
in my opinion, I'm sure people disagree.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Maybe the electricity thing a little bit because it's something
it didn't make sense because they're just like the power
of it. And then also like maybe when they did
the egg thing, when they finally got it to work,
it was there was another thing on the other end,
so it was like a telephone ringing a telephone right,
just with the new big power setting Galactus to somewhere
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well on the other side of the because that was
the thing too, is someone's like, oh, they're gonna take
this work, earl, and then it's gonna like burn or freeze.
They're like, no, they mentioned in the movie it's gonna
be within two percent of the inhabitable zone. So it
would work. It would be fine. They did, so, yeah,
and they explained a lot of the stuff in the
explanations and in the storytelling that it wasn't just like, oh,
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by the way, because sometimes when people are monologuing to
get a point across. It didn't feel like it was forced.
It felt like it was you know, this is the
reason why things seems are doing it. Okay, boom, it works, fine,
let's go with it. So and then I did others
see someone too about like the whole when Sue was
(34:37):
having contractions, and they're like, you need to grab onto
something because I grab it because of the force and stuff.
But then they're like, you don't really necessarily need that
because of like there's water birds and there's other things
where it's just like, you know, the internal force.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
She needed something to hold on to because in a
water berth, you're still sitting in the vessel you're in,
you know, she was like floating around, so read that's
why I read anchored her to the table, so she
had something to hold on to. At least otherwise she'd
just be floating around like and he just floated out
of her. I don't think it works that way. Otherwise,
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a lot more people would be having children. Probably was
that easy anyway, I don't care. I didn't care about
any of that, like whatever, you know, And I just
thought it was a really nice moment, all of them
working together, and so like Galactus or the Silver Surfer,
like sped up Franklin's birth right. Is that what we were?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, I think that she was first off, Okay, yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Was eight months pregnant when they left, which risky another
of society.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Because why are they sending those I think they were.
She was pretty much like I'm going.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, there was no choice, there was, and I love that.
It wasn't like, well, should Sue go should she not?
There was just no discussion. She was going, She's part
of the team. He needs her up there because he
needs her powers in her brain. And I was like,
I love that. That's and that's very in keeping with
some of the comics we read, like where Sue was
sort of silined in the seventies and they had this
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whole movement and discussion about how important she is and
why she needs to be out in the forefront. So
good job, good job.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah. I think they'll be like in the in the sequel,
it'll be like the second part where Read's is like
you got to stay home with it in Franklin because
he needs a man to watch him, and she's just like,
excuse me, where's anymore? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
More?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So I wonder how they're going to uh explain that
or what the part of that mid credit scene where
it's like four years later, things going on, you know,
Franklin's growing up, but then all of a sudden, here's
good old Vic shows up in the in the in
the house, and is he gonna be Uncle Doom Uncle BN?
(36:55):
It's like or maybe it's gonna be like he's gonna
turn and be like, oh hey, Sue, I'm just here
to pick up some stuff because I'm Read's assistant, you know,
like it was the coming so obviously because he already
had that, he has that mask.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know, I don't know, I really don't know where
it's going to go, but I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah. It did pull quite a bit from the what
was the comic corn wee in Family History, Life Story,
Life Story, Family History Life Story type se thing in
in that first pretty much the first comic where a
lot of it was just Ben wasn't as jaded and
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it wasn't as like secretive about everything, but it did
have a feel. I just said that the movie felt right.
It felt like they were doing the right that I
don't want to say the right stuff because that's a
space movie or astute. They were doing the right stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So it's a good correlation, I say. I think one
of Michael Giacchino's more inventive scores as well. I really
liked it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, what is it? What can't that guy do? Because
he's going to be doing some more uh directing I
was reading lately. So it's just like between his directing
and his scoring, it's just like Disney, give this guy
a contract for life and just let him just, you know,
and do whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He wants, because I would be a really good one.
I just I liked it was different. Then. I am
not a big fan of his Spider Man scores. I
don't know why. I just there's something about them I
don't jive with. But I thought this one was he
can do different things. He because he did the Doctor
Strange almost a Sorcerer Supreme. That's not what it's called,
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but that'd be a good movie title for the future.
His Doctor Strange one is interesting, and then he has
some like you know, pretty normal cinematic movie scores, but
I thought this one was also very interesting. So he's
he's a good one that one.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, he's got a very good catalog. I actually have
a lot of his stuff on my Spotify because he doesn't.
He's done a lot of Pixar movies and did a
lot of I think he scored all three of the
Star Trek J. J Abrams movies and he's done like yes, exactly,
I mean right there, that's just the you know, that's
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his uh what do they call like the this ma
keep it in that sense. So yeah, I don't have
much more just I'm trying to think of again. When
the movie ended, after the end credit scene, Liz and
(39:41):
I both like they are like really, But then it
was sort of just like, well it makes sense the
cloud the whole because of the whole joke of the
clabboring time, yeah, and the cartoon being there that they
knew that there was a cartoon about them. And he
said it before, like when he was talking, Hey say it, Ben,
say it. He's like, yes, it's in the cartoon. It's
not what I said. So then when he finally does
(40:02):
say it, when Johnny it does it pays off because
it's sort of just like, okay, maybe now this is
his his catchphrase and something. But to see it it
almost was quite It was almost not quite like a
you know, Captain America talking about you know, I can
do this all day, no being disappointed, where he turns
(40:23):
the chair backwards and he's like so yeah, at the
end of was the Spider Man Power from Home?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, the second one whatever, Like no quipples with this movie.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
No, just I wanted more right away.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So yeah, that's a good that's a good sign.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yep. So let's see. I guess that probably wraps it
up then. I mean, I'm sure we'll probably bring it
up and talk about little things that we remember. I'm
probably gonna I can.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I loved her in her role. I wanted her to
be Alicia Masters, but it's okay that she wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
No, and she was very much in it. I mean
like maybe what three scenes if that. But it was
sort of just like Ben was just like, hey, it's
the end of time here. Maybe I just wanted to come.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And say, hey, Hi, how's it go there?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
So I'm glad they didn't really have to lean too
heavily onto his there's so many things they didn't lean
into Johnny. I mean, they didn't even seem like Johnny
was like the Johnny we knew from the Chris Evans.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Like the Playboy. Yeah, it's insinuated, but it's not. We
don't need all that. No, that's not the point.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
He's he's kind of still a kid because he likes
just stacking on breakfast cereal.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, he's hungry. He burns all of calories.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Metabilism is probably super charged. So okay, Well, like I
think we said earlier, next week, we're going to be
doing the same thing, but with Superman is what we're
doing next week?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Okay, so I guess I gotta go see Superman. Is
that going to be in Digital by? That is it?
I don't think so, Hey, how I Met your How
I Met your Dragon? Why don't we keep call me
how I Met Your Dragon? How to Train Your Dragon? Is?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
As ever? You never knew you needed?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Oh that's funny, yeah, because we got that. And I
also I totally forgot too that the next group of
Samman's stuff got dropped last week too, So I need
I should be able to do I mean, everything's pushed
back anyway, so it's just like the reviews and comparisons
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Speaker 3 (43:04):
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of you in you know, your work that people could
tell and that they're giving more credit to Kirby because
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Right now on Source Pages. Haley and I have both
seen Fantastic four First Steps, and we are here to
review it and compare it to the comics we read
as the primer. But first.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's time for the podcast. Welcome back, my fellow citizens
of Earth eight to eight. I'm Hailey Hobbes.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And I'm Brian V. Klein, and this is the.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Source Pages where we read comics and novels as primers
for geeky TV shows and movies like the brand new
Fantastic four movie. And it was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And there was four of them for a while in.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The podcast Bye See next Week exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
That was it. I had a hard time, and I
think we mentioned it a bit in the primer. Who
was Was it Franklin in the primer or was it
Nathaniel In the primer? It was Franklin, Okay, so we
kept talking about I was sitting there thinking, I'm like,
oh my god, we messed this up.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So funny. When you said that, I was like, there's
something about that that doesn't quite seem right. But then
I was like, but it's fine. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
They're both kids, Nathaniel's, so yeah, Franklin ends up becoming
like a psionic commutant and uh frank or Nathaniel becomes
King the Conquerors. So this is this is the this
is the one from the preview or from the primer
and in the movie is Franklin who was their first
(01:42):
born Nathaniel.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We knew what we met. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Last week. There was a lot of stuff going on
and uh, well six of them was good. But it
was just like so dense and so, I mean, we
got through it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We were good sixty years.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Is it just me or does this seem like the
most lackluster San Diego Comic Con weekend I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I haven't seen a ton from it yet. I haven't
had time to delvi in. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't think anything major got announced or anything, because
no one. I mean the biggest thing I saw that
had any kind of significance was Queen Latifa introducing George
Lucas at the panel yesterday, and that was pretty much it.
I didn't see anything from anywhere else, even like the
toy stuff that I follow, like with Funko and Hasbro.
(02:31):
It was like they announced like four new Hasbro figures
and like a handful of I mean, there were some
cool Star Wars funko pops that were that I shared
with the group that they're finally finally making that Canaan
with the blind Canaan with the shield and stuff. Yeah,
they they announced that back at celebration like in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I don't know. I saw that they did like an
Outlander panel, which was relevant because Ashley and I rewatching
it over on all, always watching, so go check that out,
and the last season's coming out next spring, but like that,
so that was relevant to me. But I didn't I
haven't had time to read anything much about it yet,
just saw some videos and so yeah, it seems and
I haven't looked. I haven't had time to see like
(03:15):
what was the big book news, what was the big
comic news. So I don't know. I only saw the
book that Mike Chin is doing for Star Wars that's
a prequel to the Outlaws game, which I know nothing about.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Hmm, So yeah, that is uh, it just it was weird.
Maybe the the Disney stuff is because I think D
twenty three is in August, yeah, August twenty ninth to
thirty first, so maybe they're waiting to drop. But it
was just like Normally San Diego is like the big thing.
(03:50):
You're gonna see a few big thing, but it's like
Celebration was just a couple of months ago. D twenty
three is coming up and nobody else was even.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
There in theaters and Fantastic fours in theaters, so it's
kind of like, h we're busy, we'll catch you next year.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah. So it's just sort of like cause I was
looking at it even talking because normally my phone and
other stuff is blowing up. I had a friend message me,
He's like, wasn't San Diego Comic Con this weekend? I
was like, yeah, nothing, don't worry, you didn't miss anything.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I hope it's not indicative of the future of it,
like hopefully, hopefully it's just the year that we're in,
you know, like maybe next year we'll be back to
quote normal whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Right, Maybe some people or most of the studios don't
have anything, because I think there's been times Marvel Is,
the Marvel and Star Wars and DC they're all guilty of,
you know, putting news too far forward and then yeah,
(04:51):
falling back at it later to change or to you know,
cancel it. And so now it's sort of just like
they're waiting until stuff is got not like we're working
on something with this person and it's supposed to come
out then, and then all of a sudden, it's just
like because by now we should have had like three
Star Wars movies already, and it's well, if.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I had that roundtable with journalists and he I guess
there were like lockers and wherever they were having the interview,
and he was like, yeah, behind those locked doors and
those lockers is like the plan for the next seven
years of MCU. So I think it's like you're saying,
maybe that just the strategy is changing where we're not
(05:31):
putting it all out there right away, which is we're
learning from past mistakes. We're learning from the mistakes of
what happened with Kang and Blade and all that stuff.
So yeah, Blade is happening, right.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I also saw that there was certain things that may
or may not like ever come to fruition, like Charlie's
then in anything in the MCU or Harry Styles or
any of these characters that were teased as far as stuff.
I think that's what their thing is is that when
stuff isn't hitting and Fantastic four did relatively well at
(06:05):
the box office. It didn't do Gangbusters, it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Did Superman Thursday night previous.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Right, I think it ended up being under Superman for
the three day weekend though, So it's just I know,
but that's the thing is though, it's just like they're
not guaranteed, you know, billion dollar movies anymore, you know.
I think this is right now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I think the norm for a superhero movie is becoming
half a billion.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Right, not but when the budget is like two hundred million,
half a billion is pretty much we're barely making any
money on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So that's why there's a lot more advertisers now.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, and I did know that, like, like AMC has
even said they're like, there's we're just letting you know,
there's going to be at least a half an hour
from the time that like if your movie's supposed to
if your movie starts at four forty five, it's going
to be five point fifteen before the actual movie starts.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Just now coming out and saying that that's been.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The going right for a while, Well, I know there's
sometimes in some of the AMC is the smaller ones
around here, where it's like there's two previews and I
told you about this one where we watched one. I
think it was when we want to go see What
kind of Forever? And the second trailer was for a
new novel, the sequel, and it was for Angels and Demons,
(07:23):
which came out like in two thousand and nine or eight,
and it was the trailer for that. It was like
fifteen years old. And I'm sitting there going, why does
Tom Hanks look so young? Why does wait a second,
Obi wan Kenobi looks you and looks really, oh my god,
what is going on here? And then they just played
like a really old trailer, but they did throw us
a little bit of a loop. I don't know about
you ors, like I saw I at AMC. So they
(07:45):
did other previews and then they do the AMC thing,
and then they do the Nicole Kidman thing, which I loved.
That Nicole Kidman thing now was like twenty seconds or
half thirtiese thing. And then they were like, please remember
to do your no, turn your phones off this and
that they're getting ready, and then they dropped the trailer
for Avatar Fire, which.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I like, so don't care about.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, I'm interested to see the way of Water. It's
been out for two years now or a year and
a half, it's been on the class.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's just like I watched the first Avatar and I
was like, I don't understand why people are obsessed with us,
But that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Avatar was great in the theater because it was like
a vacation because that was when that new three D,
which was the inward or the depth instead of coming
at you type stuff where it was like this is
It felt like a vacation when I watched a movie.
Then at my cousin's house, after we got the Blu
ray and stuff, we're watching it, going this movie isn't
(08:43):
very good, and then we start thinking like, oh my god,
this is totally Pocahontas and dances with wolves and now
I know why they're going it dances with spool or Smurfs,
and it's like the action it's visually stunning. Yeah I
heard the second one.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No it's not. It was visually stunned back then. Now
it's just the going, you know whatever. But I don't
care about Avatar. Sorry, I sorry for people who like it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, and I never saw I never saw a way
of water and so fire and Ash to me is
just like, I.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Mean, how many times are we telling the same story?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And I don't, Yeah, because now it was like there's
a new it all takes place on Pandora now and
that's all I realized. And when you look at it,
it's just like it just looks the same as the
other two movies. A lot of blues, a lot of greens,
a lot of just the mechs and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But hey, whatever, but things we won't be covering on
this podcast the Avatar movies.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
No, and if you want to, I mean there's probably
enough other I don't know if when it came out
last year, if it was like done on any one
of the network shows that do the movie. So there
you go. Anyway, anyways you want to just get right into.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
The needs different blue deemed things.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, we're going to talk about the Smurfs movie that
just came out too week.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, voice, it was great. More things we'll never see.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I probably I didn't even realize that it had come out,
and then I'm looking at him like, oh my god,
this movie is like bombing.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh did it?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah? Like I don't even think it opened in uh
this past week, Smurfs has been out for ten days
and over the weekend, it did twenty two million.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh, they shouldn't have released it in July. What a mistake.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, I'm just hold lot. It's done. It's done twenty
two million overall this past weekend. It did one point
six million on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Probably let that go in August.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, because it's it's not even doing It's.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Up against three huge blockbusters.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, and the fact that right now is still like
how you're turning your Dragon and Lelo and Stitch are
pulling in money and F one is still pulling in
money in dress I mean Jurassic World. I Know What
You Did Last Summer's bombing too, which is fine because
that reminds me of like Scream or some of those
other ones where they don't number. The thing it's like,
is this is the fourth movie called I Know What
You Did Last Summer? Is a continuation? Do they keep
(11:13):
rebooting it? I don't know. Let me know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Care, but you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Interesting, but no, Fantastic four, the Fantastic four first steps. Yeah,
h hot take, go, Haley.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Hot take. It takes fantastic truly like what a well done,
extremely well written, like tightly formed film. That I felt
very immersed in the world immediately. I felt connected to
the characters. I was totally bought into everything that was happening. Like,
(11:53):
I loved it. I thought it was great.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It had by far, and I think it was the
originality of it too. The way that they did the
origin story for them in that recap on the talk
show was perfect because it was just like it felt
in place with the movie. It didn't feel out of place.
Everyone really knows it. But sometimes there's little you know, sure,
(12:16):
there's things that are different, especially like in the comics
we read about like Ben Grimm didn't know them beforehand
and he blamed them a lot for it, and sometimes
it's just like, uh, he's been a family friend the
whole time, and then Johnny was brought on this and
then you know, blah blah blah blah blah. They just did.
Maybe it was what ninety seconds of them introducing them
(12:36):
on that talk show and it was like, here's what happened.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, it was so great. It's you know, have you
seen Superman yet?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Okay, So anyway, I'm gonna have to see it soon
because that's gonna be our reviewing yea next week.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So you can. We saw this with Spider Man Homecoming.
You can do the origin story without doing the whole
origin story for the whole movie. You can do the
movie without doing the origin story, but you still have
to do some of the origin story, and you have
to do it in such a way that people who
(13:11):
know don't care, like they're they're like okay, yeah, good check,
and people who don't know are like, oh, I feel
like I understand everything I need to know. And I
think the Fantastic Forward did a really good job of that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
First they did a fantastic jab. It sort of reminded
me too of a lot of the times how the
The Lord of the Rings movies. The intro did a
little bit of like, here's a quick backstory, here's a
little bit what's going on in the time, and then
go more into.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It now because you have to understand the character's motivations
for what's going on for the rest of the film,
because if you don't feel like you know who they
are and why they do the things they do, I
don't think the story works. And I just think that
this just I think it was so good. I love
it so much, and I loved how like the humor
was very understated, which very much felt like Wanda Vision
(13:59):
with mattcha At that directorship as well. You know, I
just I felt Matt Shackman's fingertips all over it and
just all of the best ways. Like I really would
love to see him. I'd love to see what he
can do outside of a period piece in the MCU,
because I bet he could do anything really well, because
I love WandaVision so much and I just think he
(14:22):
knows how to direct. I mean, this was less than
two hours.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's crazy. That's my only gripe with this is not
that it didn't It didn't feel rushed. It didn't feel
like they could have done more, but I wanted more.
I wanted it was one of those things where I
was like, it's over now. Yeah, going back to your
thing about the humor. The humor fit perfectly because it
was mainly done with like Ben and Johnny.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, and you never saw the like Dickie like. It
was very like it was intelligently written humor, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Right, It was within their characters, you know, personalities and traits,
and they also dropped a Dave Filoni type thing where
I think it was when they had to convince Moleman
to bring everyone to Subterranea and he made some comment
and then Herbie you could hear him, You could hear
him basically say WTF in his Yeah, just like Chopper
(15:21):
where you could just you could tell what they're saying
by the inflection. Yeah, So it was just like Herbie
didn't I thought he was going to be like a
comic relief type thing, but he was his.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
He was needed to beat them at all.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, especially when you were on the ship. There's a
couple of things, the science of the whole, you know,
some of the stuff. And this is what Liz brought
up to is that there's a obviously in advancement and
signs with them because they've got a light light drive
and they can go to space and they could have ring.
(15:56):
But yeah, they got a hyperspace ring. Specially when I
saw that, I'm like, where's Obi Wan in the Jedi Starfighter.
But in that same sense, it still has that sixties
aesthetic where a lot of the stuff, the graphics on it,
it's like Star Wars in a way where it's like
it's technology, it's advanced, but for the time it looks
like this is not what advanced technology looks like in
that sense, so it does have that retro futuristic look
(16:21):
where I'm assuming that it was probably taking place right
around the same time as the Space Race late sixties
because what he.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Did, No, they did, but I never questioned it either.
I didn't know, you know. It was just like, oh,
this is just the time they live in and they're
just more advanced. Like, Okay, I get it, it works
for me.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
But what they did was in the at the end
of the movie when they did the four years later
in the mid credit scene, that definitely had that brown
orange seventies look. Yeah, which makes sense. If it's a
four year times jump, then it makes because then I'm
talking with Liz and we're like, but it doesn't mean
that every Earth is the same advance in the decades,
(17:01):
because right now is if this is taking I'm still
thinking that this is taking place on Earth A two eight, which,
by the way, I love the fact that that was
what Jack Kirby's birthday is August twenty eighth, and so
they brought that into it. How are they gonna again,
this is not brought over to our the The main
timeline is six one six right, Yeah, it's not brought
(17:23):
over to it yet. We're still they're still in there.
Thing we still don't know. At the end of Thunderbolts,
that ship that came through FIGI said, it might not
be the ones we're seeing in this the Fantastic Four
we're seeing in this movie because the ship is different
and uh. But then also it's like we see some
pivotal i mean end credit scene, especially our mid credit
(17:46):
scene boom, we get Doctor Doom, which, by the way,
I thought was great every time they did the Future
Foundation stuff that this spot was completely empty.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So so to go back to your the thing about
the time period, you know what it is, Here's what
it is. It's comics brought to life because these comics
were coming out in the sixties, but everybody was more
advanced in the comics than they are in real life,
and they just live in that world like that's all
that is, right.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They're using that, they're using that, you know what they
can in the they're using that in what they had
back then. Same thing like with Star Wars is that
they couldn't predict what at this time when the stuff
was coming out, what the future is going to look.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Like when it would really happen.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, I remember we were promised jet packs, right, yeah, no,
especially like in eighty five. Back to the Future is
ten years ago now, and a lot of that stuff
that from there now, there's.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
A lot of stuff that has five more than ten
years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh no, back to the future they jumped. When they
jumped to twenty fifteen, it's forty years ago now. So
oh yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I love that, Like you talk about comics coming to life,
like that's what that is, and that's that's very cool.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes, it might actually take the place of I've always
thought that Captain America the First Avenger is the best
comic book movie where it takes comic book stuff and
puts it into the movie form almost like perfectly. This
one did a lot of st I think the only
(19:24):
thing I may not bring it is the it's just
still new. Although this is the first Marvel movie maybe
since Quantumnia, or even back since Endgame that I want
to go right away and see this movie again. I
wanted to like go back, and you know before when
I was seeing the movies, you know, I saw Endgames
(19:45):
three and a half hours long. I saw in the
theaters fifteen times. This was just like, I want to
see this again.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So as soon as over, I was like I could
watch it all over again, like right now. I don't
disagree about it, Like I hear what you're saying about
In America, I tried not to view the movies that
way because I think that's why so many people get
trapped and thinking that, Like not that you think this
because you don't, but like I think so many people
are like, well, they didn't do it like the comics,
(20:11):
and so it's bad, and it's like, no, it's a
whole different medium, and it's an adaptation, just like anything
else is an adaptation of some written material, and by
the very nature that means that it's going to be different.
And it's okay, everybody, I promise it's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh yeah, Not that I was saying. I was saying
that it's good that they can do it like that,
but they don't need to have that framework or that blueprint. Yeah,
it's just that this thing felt like I was emotionally
invested in the first I was like welling up and
getting like sort of like teary eyed at the beginning,
(20:50):
not from anything that was happening. It was like tears
of joy, almost going like oh my god, they're doing this.
Oh my god, they're doing this. I mean, I had
to fight myself back and I held this his hand.
When you know, Sue's sitting there and they're freaking out
because she's not breathing.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Streaming down my face, I'm like, they killed her.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
They're gonna they could use the multiverse.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
A baby for a minute, I'll kill.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
They killed Sue. And then all of a sudden, she
was sitting there and they did that well enough to
where he was like laying on her chest and was
sort of just like being a baby. And then all
of a sudden, I know if it was her eyes
or his eyes, when they like went like clear, like
like opaque, I'm like, Okay, something's happening here. Because they
(21:35):
put him down on her.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I was like, oh, yeah, the baby has.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Powers, that's right, right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
But like I was so engrossed and what else was
going on that I did just temporarily forget. Oh, this
baby is the whole point of like what Galactic is
trying to do, has all these powers, like so I
just I was totally into it the whole, the whole way.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I think though, And I love because they they kept
subverting the like they kept failing in a sense like
he was counting down boom, They're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
This the earth that was not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
No, well, that was the thing I was thinking of,
like maybe they were and that's how they get into
six one six is, you know, universe. But then he
comes silver Surfer and busting everything down except for the
main one. And then even then him being like uh
no thanks guys, like he was about to step on it.
And then he's like, oh, you moved the kid. That's
(22:30):
the first thing I said. When they moved the kid
back to the the the Baxter building, I'm going he's
gonna glactics is going to recognize that it's not there
because he focused in on it. Now you just have
an empty bass in that. Yeah, is there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Too soon, Like come on, guys, Yeah, mistake.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And then even that just you know, hey, Johnny Storm
Playboy extraordinary, which by the way, I thought it was
awesome when they used his powers of being able to
like suck the flames up like they didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He was the one that saved the day. He was
the one that figured out the language he was the
one that got Silver Surfer to basically.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Like a change of Silver Heart.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, and then just be like, well, Galactus is gonna
be we don't know where. That's the thing that kind
of sucks though too. It's like, Okay, Galactus is gone.
It's someone else's problem.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Now, but I've done that the whole MCU I know.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
But that's the thing is too. A lot of times
when you see this as like oh, yeah, we're using
these wormholes to suck power from another universe to power ours,
it's like, yeah, but you're destroying another part of somewhere,
So now there's gonna be another you know, universe that
might be able to be like, uh.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Crap, because how is how is Galactus? I've read comics
where he's defeated by thor Am I crazy? Am I
making that up?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I know squirrel Girl beat?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So there's more than you know. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean I think I will say, since we're on Galactus,
the idea of Galactus is ridiculous, right, This is a
ridiculous character. And I mean, you go, how are they
gonna the way they did him? Like how the planet
is fuel for his machine, which ends up being like
(24:17):
what feeds him and powers him. I was like, that
is so smart and it makes sense and it's not
stupid looking, Like whoever came up with that is a genius.
Because I was like, how are they going to do
Galactus without it being the goofiest thing you've ever seen
in your life? Like, oh, you know, I'm eating a planet. No,
they did it smart, Like I just it was so good.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They did that whole thing though, too, where it's just like, Okay,
Galactus is on the other side of the universe, which
we know that because of the whole they drink, the
power got drained, and then they had to slingshot and
almost go into the black hole and blah blah blah
blah or the at the black hole the Singularity, Well
it's a black hole, is pretty much. It was, yeah,
these are but then they they they the Galactus ship
(25:01):
shows up at the edge or our Solar system. Right,
It's like, why doesn't it show up right by Earth
movie exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Passing me, passing Mars. I guess you could argue, like,
if you want to add canon, it takes so much
power that I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, because the only thing is because I remember they
were like, we got to do it this here and
pull it in because this way the Silver Surfer will
be close enough to start getting sucked into the Singularity
and then it's going to be like it's gonna take
her a month to get out. And then so then
they slingshot and they escape and they're on their way home.
But then next thing you know, it's like, isn't the
Silver Surfer is back in Galactus's ship saying, uh, I've messed.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Up well because she has the power cosmic right, but
they thought it did take them a month to get.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Back Okay, for a month to get back there. So
by the time then when that's right, because when they
got back there, like, oh they're a month away. The
fact that they the first thing they said was yeah,
we have an option to save the world, and it
would need to give up our new baby, and they
(26:10):
said no. I wouldn't be surprised that they didn't riot
right then and just take the baby and say, screw
you guys, We're going to hold this. Maybe it's a
little more civilizers, because the Fantastic Four has literally saved
them multiple a.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Little more civilized. Here was a question I had, were
they the only superheroes on that Earth.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm assuming so because.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
There seemed like it there was no other.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Even back in the sixties, you would have had, you know,
Spider Man, Captain America, Iron Man, any of those things.
So maybe they're that this isn't busy. Yeah, I mean,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Everything was happening in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It was fine, exactly, That's what I was saying. It's
like it was New York, so everything's cool.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Uh. Visually, this film is beautiful, Like I tell they
did so much practical and it looked so good and
it made like all of the buttons and stuff like
they just did such a good job. You just I
just felt so immersed in the world. And some of
the cgi, like some of the explosions were not great,
but I was like, I don't even care because the
rest of the world looks good. Silver Surfer looks amazing,
(27:15):
like she had some they had some beautiful shots of her,
like when she's kneeling down on her surfboard to talk
to Johnny. It's like straight out of comics. It's like,
this is so cool. So just can't say enough about
the production design.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And the first thing when they're sitting there talking about
It was like they're getting all serious in this, and
then Johnny's like, but I want to know if the
surfboard is part of her or if it's like a thing,
and he was just going on about that.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He was stuck on them.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I saw a couple of people complaining a bit about
the initial birth, Franklin looking like the cgi of the
baby was really like freaky looking. Wow, yes, you're not
going to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's like strange sometimes I'm just gonna say it's that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I've seen recently. In the final season of The Squid,
the cg on the baby was like really creepy, like
it made it look like from Twilight, Like, oh, just
but I didn't. I didn't think anything of it because otherwise,
what's the rule, Like, you can't have a newborn in
(28:15):
a movie anyway? They have to be at least like
six months old or three months old or something.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, I mean no, hardly any newborns on movies and
TV or actual newborns. I think they picked the baby
that had just the biggest eyes so that it would
look like Vanessa Kirby's baby. I think the big gooney
eyes didn't do it in its favors. I'm sure it'll
grow into them at some point, which.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
By the way, for the future dialect coaches who uh
train and the Storm siblings, ye get them to do
every British act they did not. I totally completely forgot
to him like that, Eddie, I call him Eddie Tony Storms,
Joseph Quinn and Vanessa Kirby are both British and I
(29:00):
don't think anything bad about Better and Cumberbatch as an actor,
but his doctor strange accent is not good.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's not great. It's gotten a little better.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, But I'm just saying is that sometimes it's just
like you completely forget, because I've always said it's like
you're you're hardly ever gonna see you know, Brits can
play Americans in movies, but it's rare that Americans, I
mean outside of like Mike Myers playing Austin Powers, but
that was just a character. It's not like they're going
to go in and do like Americans aren't usually cast
(29:31):
as Hamlet or you know, in a British version of things, because.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's sort of like, I mean, we can't go down
the Shakespeare Oute because you can do Shakespeare in any.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Right, like you think that if an American became James
Bond Americans or the Doctor.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
John Lithgow is like very famous I think for his
but he played the Prime Minister during World War Two.
His name is chur that's his name.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And also John Lithgow is gonna is Dumbledore, Yeah, Dumbledore
in the New Harry Potter thing. So I mean that's
an American that's sort of like because there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Of do it. But I think it's hard because of
the way we pronounce some of our words, especially are
our rs. That's the hard that's a hard run for
the Brits. So yeah, they did a great job. I
want to talk about Eben moss Backrock as the Thing
because what I've seen a lot of people saying is
that they didn't feel connected to him, and I'm like, oh,
(30:29):
I disagree. I thought they did such a good job
of making you feel how like warm he is and
kind he is and smart and caring and in that
character with as little time as we got with the
actual Eben moss Backrock on screen, like we hardly see him,
and then I just I thought he killed it as
the thing. I loved him.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
No, I think we see him more. We only see
him in like the flashbacks and the one time when
he's walking and he sees like the TV screen and
it's showing you know, men, he can grow it a
hell of a beard though, was like that whole thing.
I have a question too about the energy and the electricity.
But then again it's like, yeah, it's movie type stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, we just go with it. The that's for the
saving of the entire planet. You know, you just have
to accept things as they are.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You have to take into consideration. Like we mentioned earlier,
that this is an earth that is a lot more
unified as an earth because it has these these characters, right.
You know, I've seen people I don't get political and
everything like that, but I've seen some people being like,
you know, talking to Southern people now, especially with this
whole ice thing, They're like, what would happen if Jesus
(31:40):
showed up today, And they're like, well, he's born in
the Middle East, if he has his papers, that'd be okay.
It's like, oh, man, okay, well, yep, I'm not going
to go down that road. But you just know, I'm
just saying it's like, I'm not going to go down
that I was just bringing up a point that that's
not how they would.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
This Earth seems like a kind their place.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, it seems like it's a little bit more unified
because of the fact that these guys are there to
protect them. And you know, yeah, they could end up
just going like, screw you guys, I'm done. Yeah, but no,
they went into it because they I.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Mean, her speech when she takes Franklin out of the
building is beautiful. You know what she says, Uh, I'm
not giving up my son for this planet. And I'm
not giving up this planet for my son. Like what
a great I mean, perfect, beautiful. Pr Sue, you're the best.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
The writing was I think at first the way that
they that was there. They're not in the in the
movie itself, but in the movie, their misstep was when
uh Reid was like, yeah, we could save it. It's
given up our kid, right, and then they pretty much
like ended it walked away and everyone was like wait
(32:54):
what But.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It made sense because they just shoved him in front
of the microphone. He was like, are we gonna prepare
and they're like no, just I'm up here and do
this and say something. And it was the wrong thing
to do, like they should have given. They should have
been like, what's the situation and let's okay, well let's
not say that, let's say this, and so that all
made sense, you know what I mean, Like the writing
made everything made sense. I didn't question. I didn't question
(33:18):
even the ridiculous things because they explained it right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Anything that could have been a little bit like of
a loose end it was.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You know, there was like nothing hand wavy about this movie. No,
in my opinion, I'm sure people disagree.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Maybe the electricity thing a little bit because it's something
it didn't make sense because they're just like the power
of it. And then also like maybe when they did
the egg thing, when they finally got it to work,
it was there was another thing on the other end,
so it was like a telephone ringing a telephone right,
just with the new big power setting Galactus to somewhere
(33:54):
well on the other side of the because that was
the thing too, is someone's like, oh, they're gonna take
this work, earl, and then it's gonna like burn or freeze.
They're like, no, they mentioned in the movie it's gonna
be within two percent of the inhabitable zone. So it
would work. It would be fine. They did, so, yeah,
and they explained a lot of the stuff in the
explanations and in the storytelling that it wasn't just like, oh,
(34:17):
by the way, because sometimes when people are monologuing to
get a point across. It didn't feel like it was forced.
It felt like it was you know, this is the
reason why things seems are doing it. Okay, boom, it works, fine,
let's go with it. So and then I did others
see someone too about like the whole when Sue was
(34:37):
having contractions, and they're like, you need to grab onto
something because I grab it because of the force and stuff.
But then they're like, you don't really necessarily need that
because of like there's water birds and there's other things
where it's just like, you know, the internal force.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
She needed something to hold on to because in a
water berth, you're still sitting in the vessel you're in,
you know, she was like floating around, so read that's
why I read anchored her to the table, so she
had something to hold on to. At least otherwise she'd
just be floating around like and he just floated out
of her. I don't think it works that way. Otherwise,
(35:12):
a lot more people would be having children. Probably was
that easy anyway, I don't care. I didn't care about
any of that, like whatever, you know, And I just
thought it was a really nice moment, all of them
working together, and so like Galactus or the Silver Surfer,
like sped up Franklin's birth right. Is that what we were?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, I think that she was first off, Okay, yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Was eight months pregnant when they left, which risky another
of society.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Because why are they sending those I think they were.
She was pretty much like I'm going.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, there was no choice, there was, and I love that.
It wasn't like, well, should Sue go should she not?
There was just no discussion. She was going, She's part
of the team. He needs her up there because he
needs her powers in her brain. And I was like,
I love that. That's and that's very in keeping with
some of the comics we read, like where Sue was
sort of silined in the seventies and they had this
(36:12):
whole movement and discussion about how important she is and
why she needs to be out in the forefront. So
good job, good job.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah. I think they'll be like in the in the sequel,
it'll be like the second part where Read's is like
you got to stay home with it in Franklin because
he needs a man to watch him, and she's just like,
excuse me, where's anymore? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
More?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So I wonder how they're going to uh explain that
or what the part of that mid credit scene where
it's like four years later, things going on, you know,
Franklin's growing up, but then all of a sudden, here's
good old Vic shows up in the in the in
the house, and is he gonna be Uncle Doom Uncle BN?
(36:55):
It's like or maybe it's gonna be like he's gonna
turn and be like, oh hey, Sue, I'm just here
to pick up some stuff because I'm Read's assistant, you know,
like it was the coming so obviously because he already
had that, he has that mask.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know, I don't know, I really don't know where
it's going to go, but I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah. It did pull quite a bit from the what
was the comic corn wee in Family History, Life Story,
Life Story, Family History Life Story type se thing in
in that first pretty much the first comic where a
lot of it was just Ben wasn't as jaded and
(37:38):
it wasn't as like secretive about everything, but it did
have a feel. I just said that the movie felt right.
It felt like they were doing the right that I
don't want to say the right stuff because that's a
space movie or astute. They were doing the right stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So it's a good correlation, I say. I think one
of Michael Giacchino's more inventive scores as well. I really
liked it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, what is it? What can't that guy do? Because
he's going to be doing some more uh directing I
was reading lately. So it's just like between his directing
and his scoring, it's just like Disney, give this guy
a contract for life and just let him just, you know,
and do whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He wants, because I would be a really good one.
I just I liked it was different. Then. I am
not a big fan of his Spider Man scores. I
don't know why. I just there's something about them I
don't jive with. But I thought this one was he
can do different things. He because he did the Doctor
Strange almost a Sorcerer Supreme. That's not what it's called,
(38:46):
but that'd be a good movie title for the future.
His Doctor Strange one is interesting, and then he has
some like you know, pretty normal cinematic movie scores, but
I thought this one was also very interesting. So he's
he's a good one that one.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, he's got a very good catalog. I actually have
a lot of his stuff on my Spotify because he doesn't.
He's done a lot of Pixar movies and did a
lot of I think he scored all three of the
Star Trek J. J Abrams movies and he's done like yes, exactly,
I mean right there, that's just the you know, that's
(39:20):
his uh what do they call like the this ma
keep it in that sense. So yeah, I don't have
much more just I'm trying to think of again. When
the movie ended, after the end credit scene, Liz and
(39:41):
I both like they are like really, But then it
was sort of just like, well it makes sense the
cloud the whole because of the whole joke of the
clabboring time, yeah, and the cartoon being there that they
knew that there was a cartoon about them. And he
said it before, like when he was talking, Hey say it, Ben,
say it. He's like, yes, it's in the cartoon. It's
not what I said. So then when he finally does
(40:02):
say it, when Johnny it does it pays off because
it's sort of just like, okay, maybe now this is
his his catchphrase and something. But to see it it
almost was quite It was almost not quite like a
you know, Captain America talking about you know, I can
do this all day, no being disappointed, where he turns
(40:23):
the chair backwards and he's like so yeah, at the
end of was the Spider Man Power from Home?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, the second one whatever, Like no quipples with this movie.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
No, just I wanted more right away.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So yeah, that's a good that's a good sign.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yep. So let's see. I guess that probably wraps it
up then. I mean, I'm sure we'll probably bring it
up and talk about little things that we remember. I'm
probably gonna I can.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I loved her in her role. I wanted her to
be Alicia Masters, but it's okay that she wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
No, and she was very much in it. I mean
like maybe what three scenes if that. But it was
sort of just like Ben was just like, hey, it's
the end of time here. Maybe I just wanted to come.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And say, hey, Hi, how's it go there?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
So I'm glad they didn't really have to lean too
heavily onto his there's so many things they didn't lean
into Johnny. I mean, they didn't even seem like Johnny
was like the Johnny we knew from the Chris Evans.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Like the Playboy. Yeah, it's insinuated, but it's not. We
don't need all that. No, that's not the point.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
He's he's kind of still a kid because he likes
just stacking on breakfast cereal.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, he's hungry. He burns all of calories.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Metabilism is probably super charged. So okay, Well, like I
think we said earlier, next week, we're going to be
doing the same thing, but with Superman is what we're
doing next week?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Okay, so I guess I gotta go see Superman. Is
that going to be in Digital by? That is it?
I don't think so, Hey, how I Met your How
I Met your Dragon? Why don't we keep call me
how I Met Your Dragon? How to Train Your Dragon? Is?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
As ever? You never knew you needed?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Oh that's funny, yeah, because we got that. And I
also I totally forgot too that the next group of
Samman's stuff got dropped last week too, So I need
I should be able to do I mean, everything's pushed
back anyway, so it's just like the reviews and comparisons
(42:31):
are coming hot and heavy. So as they do, they
do so until next week. If you want to get
a hold of us, Haley will tell you how to
do that.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Haley, you can follow us on our socials. We're on Instagram, Twitter,
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Speaker 1 (42:57):
And check out all the shows on the network. He
did okay, and speaking of well.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
You say that at the end and I do the
same way like speaking is you know proved.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I was picking up, I was loaded, making sure that
the page was loaded so I can read off our
podcast buddies, what's our other podcasts we think you should
listen to because we do it. We think they're cool.
And that is across the by Frost and Mighty Thor,
Dan and Ean have questions. Commute to the podcast Sigabits,
mock Tails from the canteena before It's Radio Presents to
(43:32):
the Bobs Jack Kirby, which probably would be really you know,
pertinent right now, because of the whole Fantastic four. I
love that quote at the end of the movie too,
with him being you know, like there's always something part
of you in you know, your work that people could
tell and that they're giving more credit to Kirby because
(43:53):
of you know, Kirby. Not right, but yeah, I mean
it was, you know, go and Kirby and these guys
made up a lot of the stuff. Flush it out more.
But anyways, uh, so weird, so fun. And also the
Star Wars Yo universe, which is hosted by our very
own James Hewings. So yeah, that's it. And unless you
(44:17):
got anything else, nothing, I have nothing else. I have nothing.
Okay until next week. Remember two things, be excellent to
each other and never judge a book by its movie.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
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If you would like to contact us, you can email
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