April 13, 2025 • 48 mins
Another Doctor Who season premiere means an all-new episode of Timey Walk Talk! Hayley is off on Missbelindachandra helping with the fallout of the revolution, but Karen, Liz and Brian are here to discuss "The Robot Revolution", the first episode of the new season of Who. Come join in on the fun, "polish, polish"
**Brian is aware that his mic sounds a little canned. Corrections will be made, or he will be vaporized**
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't blink because Timey and Windy Talk is bad. Yes,
that's right. We get a new season of Doctor Who
and the Robot Revolution just aired streamed or however you
get your viewing in these days, and we are here
to talk about it. So grab your sonics head to
the tartist.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But first I did this messages.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, it's time for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Welcome the time Me Windy Talk, the podcast that's bigger
on the inside.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm Karen, I'm Liz, and I'm Brian, and we are
back for season I don't know if you want to
call it season two or season fifteen or season o whatever,
forty one, if you had the old stuff together, because
are they they? Because I remember last season they were
sort of advertising it as season one, but on this
one i've seen go back to say in season fifteen.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, I've seen both.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So it's sort of like the reset again was sort
of I mean, whatever, it's it's born actor who, So
I'm happy about that.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So Disney Plus is considering it season two.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah at least, Yeah, what's the Is there been any
more updates? As everyone that listens to the show knows
that Karen is our woman on the on the ground
over there in I don't mean not yet. I was
to say Joey Old England, but I'm not going to
try and ask, and so she's got all the scuttle
(01:42):
but over there.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So Russell has basically just double down on the fact
that we're not going to hear anything until after season two.
Was it. The current Disney Plus contract includes the first
two seasons, two Christmas specials, and the war between the
(02:04):
London and Sea, so we should after season two's ended
get some sort of decision. RTD swears he knows nothing,
but either way that we're going to end up with
quite a hefty gap because obviously in a normal situation
(02:27):
they would have started writing and pre production for the
next series by now. So yeah, it doesn't look like
we're going to have a Christmas special this year, so
that's good. And then I can't imagine it'll be probably
a couple of years before season three, whether it's with
Disney money or not, because I think it will still
(02:49):
go ahead in some shape or form, if it's just
BBC or whether they have to get another streaming service
on board, be in Netflix or your Prime. But as
I say, as it stands, Disney Plus no decision until
after the final episode.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I'm very out of the loop. So what what would
be the reasoning for that as a budget.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Is that's that's all the signed up for originally was
it was a number of episodes and say it it
equates to these two series and the up come and
spin off, which is the War between the Land and
the Sea, which we don't have a release date for
that so far. It's finished film and it's in post
production as far as I've heard, so that might fill
(03:38):
the gap next year when there's no who.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm thinking too that they could knowing like RTD and
the guys that are in charge, that a lot of
the pre stuff that isn't necessarily needed to be put
in front of cameras they're writing, the casting and other
stuff could already be fully done. They're just waiting, like
we can't physically say anything until we know that you know,
we are going to do something. And like she was
(04:03):
saying Liz, is that it's basically all dependent on viewership
and social media response, which they they netflix and a
lot of the big streamers also do that and figure
how long someone's talking about something. And what's kind of
encouraging is some of the there's a few podcasts that
I don't really listen too much anymore, but keep like
(04:24):
my ear to the ground and see what their reactions
are and everyone, and some of them are guys that
have been around like my age and that have been
Who fans for their whole lives and have gotten kind
of curmudgeony after maybe like the Capaldi era started a
bit and with you know, but they were all just like,
it's a fun Who episode. It was it had stakes,
(04:46):
it had stuff that lay the ground. It wasn't kind
of like completely out of left field. And so that
there's talk about the guys that are like, yes, this
is you know, we're enjoying it again. It's not like
because it seems like Doctor Who fans can be very
critical without being like some other fandoms where it's just like, oh,
I'm done, this is it, this is crap, but they're
(05:07):
they're being able to be open to conversations about it,
whereas this one was just like everything I've read so far,
it's just like I tried to stay away from spoilers,
and it was just like it was a fun episode.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So right after I've gone into the social media and
been reading generally the comments that people have been making
after the episode, and I've got to say it, compared
last season, reception of this one is, as you say,
it has been ninety five positive. And again you want
(05:41):
to they want to complain for the sake of complaining
and oh it's too and all the rest of it.
But to be to be honest, it's been really well received,
which is which is brilliant.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
That's promising I could see just after watching. Not to
say that last year wasn't entertaining, but I feel like
there is definitely a different type of feeling after seeing
this first episode of season two or whatever you want
to call it, series two, whichever, soon whatever number it is.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I'm thinking in my mind is season fifteen, because it's
like that's from the return back in twenty two thousand
and five. Whatever. I think what a lot of people
are maybe gotten used to is last year there was
a lot of things that were the first for the
doctor was you know, the first kiss and the first
romance involund and stuff like that, and even him being
(06:35):
what's the sexuality, which most people are like, I don't care,
but it's also just like, but you even mentioned that,
Liz when we were watching today when the girl what
was her name? Fifty five fifty five?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Oh, I know, I was like, oh, he's going to cry.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, and then the single tier and it's like he's
the doctor that cries. No, the doctor cried. Doctors would
be sentimental and be very like I would assume Matt
Smith's and David Tennants were a lot more you know,
connected to the companions and felt a lot closer relationship.
But David Tenants especially, he knew that, you know, like
(07:15):
Martha was in love with him and stuff, and he
had to keep it distance. This is a whole new doctor,
and so you have to take that as a as
an evolution and the progression. You can't expect every doctor
to be like the doctors before.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
So right, which I think is fine. I think to
me it seems like incorrect me if I'm wrong, But
to me, it seems like this is a break from
the all right, keep calm, carry on, suppress your feelings.
You know, there's not that wall between being vulnerable and Karen.
(07:49):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I think, Well, obviously I think that was the payo
of the foldeenth. Don't bringing Tenant back having those storylines?
Wait the time will be behind him, put all all
the things that had come before behind him to give
shoot you that fresh start. And when we're comparing sort
of like what we've sort of just watched season fifteen,
(08:12):
season two open an episode. Last year, the majority of
the series, I think was trying to introduce Who to
a whole new audients, the Disney Plus audients, So there
was a lot of exposition. There was a lot of
timing episodes where you were getting to know about the
(08:34):
sonic screwdriver, Galla Free, the history of the doctor, as
well as introducing Ruby and her story. So now that
we're seasoning with Disney Plus and with hopefully those news fans,
you can then move ahead with the stories. So now
you don't have to worry so much about all that introduction.
(08:54):
There will be a little bit, because it always is
when you get a new companion both they won't need
it as much, I think, is what I'm trying to say, right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And I know for a lot of times, and it's
sort of the americanizing of something, is that I know
what happens to do a lot of reasons why Marvel
resets their numbers because stuff can be daunting. If all
of a sudden you get thrown and say, hey, here's
Doctor Who, which has always been amazing for me, for
the fact that I've been a Doctor Who fan for
(09:27):
since seeing it in the seventies I saw some Perchree
stuff and then Tom Baker when I was five, six
seven years old. How it never broke in America whatsoever?
I mean, it never became Ed Smith. I think was
the first one that was like they aimed to have.
He had the big thing in New York, in LA
and for it being a global phenomenon, I mean, obviously
(09:50):
it's an institution over in England, but coming in and
resetting itself and I think that could have been the
thing season one last year, and now they're going back
to like the this is part of the new I mean,
it's it's all one linear thing. But if they were
to come out and say season forty one of Doctor
Whoton's like, oh my god, what is this? What some
of those shows over the Coronation Street is that, like
(10:11):
in the fifties or sixties, or one of those shows
that have been on forever that if you try to
catch up, which I can't say is impossible because lizs
has watched me. I rewatched over the last two plus
years of eleven hundred and something episodes of One Piece,
so I'm all caught up to being like as it is,
but I watched that before. But it's a very daunting
thing to try to get people that aren't have never
(10:35):
seen Doctor Who, especially with how much history and there's
still a lot of stuff that they have no idea
about they really don't have not even touched much on,
like the Time War or even like the whole thing
with the Time Lords in Gallifray, when like Timothy Dalton
came back and stuff like that, and even like the
Vallee Ard or any of these characters which have an
(10:57):
importance to it but sort of don't really affect how
storytelling can be going forward.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Now, that makes it easier for new viewers to pop
in and not feel so behind.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
The family show. So you're going to have children growing
up and starting to watch it, so I hope. So
you needed to be that premise way you can jump in,
Like season starters and new Doctors are brilliant starting points
to jump in for any any new viewers. So then
(11:29):
different ones are better than others for jumping in. Let's
say just had the twentieth anniversary of New Who. Rose
is a brilliant episode to start watching, and it was
done with in mind that you are going to get
people because of the hiatus. It wasn't exactly canceled of
(11:50):
so many years. There was a lot of whole generation
who didn't know what Doctor Who was so.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Right now and I remember over here when it came
back on, it just happened to be on a Friday
night on sci Fi Channels where the Ecoston. Because I
was watching, I had recorded most of the shows I
watched in sci Fi Channels and aired on Fridays, and
it was like Stargate at started Atlantis Androma all this
other stuff in Balistar Galactica. And then all of a sudden,
(12:20):
when I was going through the dvr, I or the
programming the thing, I go, oh, my wait, what's this
Doctor Who? And I looked and I see Rose, and
I go, oh, this is the New Who. And then
for like the first I want to say, up until
Matt Smith, it was on sci Fi Channel, and then
they moved at the BBC Americas. At that time, there
wasn't any so even then it wasn't even something that
(12:41):
we saw, but we were just basically seeing it because
he knew that the fans here there was a sort
of die hard quality to it, that you were going
to watch it. They weren't expecting ten million new viewers
to show up from America because I don't even think
ten million people had the Signet Right channel or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Now I could see it on that Prime Amazon Prime
is where I was able to jump in and watch
it was around two thousand and nine. Yeah, I think
if there was only access to like included in your
Prime membership, I believe just season one and two maybe,
(13:21):
and then I had to go and try to get
them from the library or the video store or something
like that. So I no, Archie, I didn't have.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Always sorry lest always sort of his vision was always
to expand it right at the very beginning, and I
think probably to say with BBC America, but then also
with the introduction of bread Box and also embracing San
Diego Comic Con because it started doing Comic Con towards
the end of ten. In theory, I think I think.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It was his last year. It was mark the year
I remember.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Seeing that because they definitely did it for in the
End of Time episodes.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And even that was. It was amazing too with like
how much the intertwining because we didn't get much a
lot of the Sarah Jane inventors here that was on
sort of I think that was on like Sundays. They
aired it at like eleven o'clock, which it fit in
with dend of Time. But Torch would was. I remember
seeing that first episode, I go, Okay, this is not
(14:27):
your your your kids Doctor Who, because it was so
it was basically like the version of Doctor Who. You know,
not that Captain Jack is like that far off, but
it was. It was way more adult, way more you know,
like crime procedural drama thing with a lot of violence
and other stuff. But I'm like, just it was so compelling,
(14:48):
and so with them having all these I'm like, this
is my You're gonna have fifteen different you know, Doctor
Who's too shows, which makes me wonder with like how
the new it's the basically it's the unit show that's
coming up with what they're focusing on. Who's the man.
The bad guys are the devil Niluvians, So they're basically
(15:11):
taking some old characters that we've seen and you know,
doing a little adventure on I hope it does great.
I hope all the Doctor Who stuff does great. But
there's a lot of times where people sort of see
it and go like they've seen it their whole life
and are sort of just like, well, if I've never
been into it now, I'm never going to be into it.
So I hope that's the wrong mentality, but that's how
(15:31):
some people are. But anyways, we're going to talk.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
About the robot Revolution, reeling it back in.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, we started to get our It's been a while
since we've talked. It's been, you know, a few months
since the Christmas episode, and uh, we got this one.
We got we're gonna have what eight episodes of the season.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yes, eight episodes of season two Potter at the end,
but one every week. It's not going to be like
it's two episodes Tame Night we had at the beginning of.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah. Yeah, especially because there's been a lot of dancing,
especially with we're looking at too like the upcoming season.
Demand or it's twelve episodes, but they're releasing each episode.
Each arc is three episodes, and each week they're going
to release pretty much like a two hour, fifteen minutes
to and a half hour movie. So you're for four weeks,
(16:24):
you're like watching a movie. Likely we don't podcast on
that week and stuff like that. But this is a
matter of just watching it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But I've watched half an hour of the first episode
or the first series, so I've gotten a lot of
catching up what they went on and or it.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Is fantastic, good, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's got that Rogue one. I mean, it's it's the
same field as Rogue one, and it's like the this
is what it's the it's basically the people that do
the stuff that you don't really want to show the
kids what they have to do because you know, there's
always a one side of everything that's sort of like
was catchy, but you got to do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So what you're saying is it's.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's pretty much.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's pretty. It's pretty. It's got that feel too, which
I think is peel. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So just a quick tail of tape here we've got.
This episode was written by RTD, directed by Peter Is
It's Peter Is it Peter Whore? Okay, Oh, I just knows.
Nicholas Briggs did the voices of the robots. Yeah, Nicholas
Briggs is a big guy in the h he was
(17:36):
pretty much like the Cyberman and he does all like
the big he also does he's huge into big finish stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, he'thdolic guy.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Doll like in Cyberman, which, by the way, to over
talk about the episode. The first time I was talking
with when they were explaining after they you know, picked
up miss but in the Chandra, which we should probably
never forget what this companion's full name is because they
said it three hundred thousand times that their whole assimilation
(18:11):
process with mixing the fush with my bent reminded me
so much of Cybermen.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, straight up.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Which it was just like, okay, well that's what they
want to do. But there, but there, there wasn't there there.
It wasn't exterminate or so it was Polish, Polish, Polish,
I love.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I love a cute little droid. Oh my gosh. Totally.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Then I remember, yes, well that's what that's all I
could think about when when a little Polish Polish like.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
They're like, oh my god, this is so cute. And
then it was when it transmitted with them over and
they're like, oh wait, wait, you can't you know, we
can't have you here. You're like a cell phone, they'll
be able to attract a signal to us here if
I knew something would happen, but he would either be
like the gender specify, which was but is that somehow
(19:10):
it would come back into play a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But oh yeah, there's a reason it was able to
get into there and go with that to the underground.
What did they call it?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I think so something like that the bunker the underground. Yeah,
I can't tell you this just flat out talking about
this episode is that I laughed a lot more than
I thought I was going to, even so much as
that our eight year old was like, what do you
guys laugh? What's so funny? Yeah? The one it hit
(19:45):
me on left field though, is when is like, oh
so plenty of the in cells.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Oh man, that was perfect just when they revealed that
it was just that it was the controlling X and like,
oh this is.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Did you guess?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I didn't you.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But it was really funny though when it was like, oh,
it's not AI, it's l and then it's really that
was funny because Brian actually got a was in a
group message yesterday. He got a message, I don't know,
someone said something about AI and he was like I
kept thinking, who's Al.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, Yeah, our friend Chase sent me this picture because
Playmobile have these, you know, kids toys, and it was
wanted for a momb diffuser. And I'm like, okay, that's
kind of a weird, you know, stretch for Playmobile whatever.
And the Chase is like, it reminded me of AI.
Well capital I and like it looks like is L
(20:48):
and I brought back I'm like, I'm trying to figure
out who L is.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
It was a nice that it reminds you of the
funny synchronicity, Like see, I'm not the only.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
One that thinks AI looks like AL. But then when
they show the in the the AI generator, when he
pop it open, it says AL like, okay, because it
was just black because the lip the top of the
or the bottom part of the L.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But there was, yeah, the levity, you know, every once
in a while it was there are funny moments, but
it wasn't like kind of goofy like how the Space Babies.
I was like, oh, this is just silly.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I don't know not to be I don't want to
be negative, but I feel like this was I just
personally preferred this one you know, with it was there
were funny moments, but it wasn't goofy like timey, whymy
I'm not six, you know those little assigned comments.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah six, like oh geez. The name of our podcast
now because it's I think too is because that there
is a different type of humor like that way. Because
we had just seen a couple of days ago we
went and saw a Minecraft movie, which is very much
a oh my god, it's a goofy, goofball type Jack
(22:03):
Black type comedy, where this is a comedy that's sort
of like the comedy in this is a levity on
how serious everything is. It's sort of just like a
being too serious that it just gets kind of like
bross and you're going, oh my god, what does you
know I need? It doesn't feel like you're enjoying it
(22:23):
with everything as bad as happening. And in this one,
it took me a little bit of a time to
figure outhen we were watching it, what the stakes of
this thing actually are? What is what is actually going
on here? How did this happen? And then all of
a sudden, when he was like, oh, it's a causal
time loop. Everything happened because it happened, and then it
went back to get Alan because she said it. And
then that was ten years and it was happening as
(22:44):
they were taking her, So it already happened, but it
hadn't happened yet. And then the thing with here's another
thing that we brought up too, Karen, Now we'll ask
your opinion about it. When you were talking about the
certificate and they said two things can't out of time,
can't be in the same place together. Is that not
applied to doctors, because there's been doctors that have been
together and have touched each other and stuff. And it's
(23:06):
not like time cop where if you do it, it's
gonna you're gonna disintegrate. It's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
They do it when it's convenient.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Okay, that's what I was.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
About the paradox, and obviously this time is that everything's
gonna go kaboom. And but yeah, it's when it suits
because obviously you've got the two doctors, the three, the
five doctors. Then you've got even all these different episodes
where you've had the same and a number of doctors
in them.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, they've stressed a bunch of times they're not supposed
to be able to do that. But now it's like
they're always around and every other timeline. I didn't know
it was one other kind of that paradoxical thing. But
as soon as they mentioned that Al was talking and
living in that eight beats and the ninth beat was
sort of not there, and then he goes, please help me,
(24:04):
I'm in pain. The rest of the time you talk,
that did not apply anymore because I was not waiting
for that ninth word, and it was like, oh, it
doesn't matter anything.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I was counting too.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, that kind of just was like put in there
and then just.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I know, starting with each sentence, I don't know, I
was trying to kind of words and I don't know. Anyway,
I think that the writing for this episode was really good.
I enjoyed it. I really enjoyed everything about it. I
enjoyed at the very beginning showing her life just well,
(24:40):
I guess I suppose the very beginning was giving her this, yeah,
giving her this certificate. You know, that's your star. He
called it a star, right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it was actually a planet, well the star system there.
And so hopefully in like six months time, we're not
going to have some people looking for the timey wymy
cast because caring names star the same for us. Oh no,
what's going to happen? That's the first thing I saw.
But that was what the reason it was for Wait
(25:13):
a second, that happened to us.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
But we don't have there's no certificate. It's fine, we
don't have an Allen.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No, we don't have a but she did send us
one in our Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I agree
with you, Liz.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I thought it was a really good episode. I thought
the effects were really it was just so good. The
whole esthetic the fifties sci fi with the row box
and the color and the when the the certificates touched
and you had all of that. I don't know what
you would call that effect. But the way they used
(25:54):
the sound and the visuals.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Like the visuals was just so neat. It was like
the way that they were able to translate time just
becoming unstable. I guess maybe I don't know that. And
with the glitching, the glitching when she was in the
retro looking spaceship after they took her.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
From the way I told this that I don't know
if any of you Feature Rama fans out there, is
that that ship looked like the Planet express ship that
Stephen J. Fry and all those people in Futurama uses
a delivery vehicle, like, oh my god, I think it's
even the same color too.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And I know we're jumping around all over the place,
which might be appropriate with timy wymy talk. But okay,
missus Flood. So when she was being taken and kidnapped
from her home, we see Missus Flood in the backyard.
Does she just show up conveniently to break the fourth
wall and talk to us or is this the same
neighborhood that.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I think she's moved things from.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
She's got her own portal in every apartment that she listened.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
The doctor said something about somebody had told told him
about Blinda that she was amazing, So obviously this there's
something going on there. So if the doctor knows, then
Missus Floods must maybe no found out and has placed
herself like CHA had with Ruby. Mind the fact that
(27:28):
she's still breaking the fourth wall. I didn't expect that,
and the fact that she started hiding when the doctor
appeared and he ain't seen me.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
That was good the nosy neighbor just like, don't mind me.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I do like the text jumping around a little bit
to the end when he brings her on the ship
and sort of explains everything, and then she figures out
right away that the doctor is dangerous. And then the doctor,
if he has one consistent quality to any iteration, is
that the doctor is dangerous.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
She is she the first companion to just flat out
point that out, where the rest of them are just so.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Just maybe that early yeah, because it was right off the.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Back, like the other ones are under some sort of
like h and they're just just so amazed by the
idea of living this other life and they can, you know,
they can actually kind of escape the mundane and.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
The runnyway Bride when Donna was yeah, she wasn't. She
wasn't tumanamed and just wanted to get No. That's true
at the end now for him as a person or
an alien, but wasn't have no interest in going off
(28:58):
with the skinny space. That's no.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I still remember the one see where he was talking
about it's like, well I did think you want a mate,
and she's like you walk, it's like, no, want a mate,
not want to mate, like as you would say, And
she was always very much like, yeah, there's nothing you know,
I'll do what I can. Although that scene in the
uh uh oh man, what was the episode with the
(29:24):
fat sucking the when they see each other across the
office through the windows and they're like, oh, it's like
they were looking for each other, but it wasn't like
that they were, you know, But yeah, her, I think
this is the first time in recent history where she
gets introduced to the tartist. She comes inside and was
like whoa, looks around, she doesn't say anything. The doctor says, yeah,
(29:48):
it is bigger on the inside than the outside, like
he like says it to her, and then from there
she's even sort of just like I've even seen, Like
the sort of slogan for this season is it's going
to be a long way home. So the whole season
is trying to get her back to the day, which
obviously we can't now because the last scene is like, yeah,
(30:09):
the planet blew up, so that's why you can't get
to that time, which doesn't make sense in the sense
that he's already been past that time now on Earth
and we know that doctor who isn't like a split
reality type thing like Marvel Universe is. It's just like
you can't sort of It reminds me too, like when
sometimes he's gone back to try to stop stuff or
(30:32):
you like put the whole like, we can't go it's
a fixed point in time. We can't change it. I
can't go there. I can't do anythingwhere trying to get
back to the dale. What's so special about May twenty?
It isn't that the May twenty sixth or whatever? The
twenty Yeah, isn't that that's the That's.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
The date of the second last episode, right, I would
say that's like I love that, And so I did
google It's Queen Victoria's birthday and it is Memorial Day
in the US.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, the google mem as long as the last Monday
in May. So but yeah, that's okay. So I basically
splits this whole season into racing towards a actual date
of when we're going to write about when we're going
to see the final episode, into like in that time,
maybe the way things are going right now with a
(31:27):
lot of stuff might be the reality that we don't
know about. Oh, thanks for r t D.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I don't know. I'm just going to go the cat.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh yeah, it's irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Lucally, you didn't actually see the cat you just saw
the but that's a bit harsh.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I did like the faction tell tell such and such
a number whatever. A cat's gone to live on a farm,
the farm that you've got rid of the dog.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
M?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Did you? Did you know if this is just me
being me, that the house that Blinda lived in it
looked like Donna's house.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It looked like.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Well and that was yeah. I mean it's isn't It's
just kind of like the typical layout of a uh
like a townhouse is what you know, considered here right
a row house?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Would it be?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I don't know, ter house? Okay, yeah, yeah, I I agreed.
I was looking. I was like, wow, this is a
that's a really nice home. Everything looks like redone and
modern and it looks really nice.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
And then it got smashed up.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I know, I would be very uh how rude.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah. So basically, like I'm trying to think of any
other points that we didn't bring up in this episode,
because it was pretty much like, yeah, we got to stop.
Oh the X ray blankets her.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
That was so cool medical advancements.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And it was a good way to get the two
hearts in.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yes, I knew that was going to happen. I knew
who was going to do that.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Good little thing. The fact that Blinda knew the name
of the tartis.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Well, she said he I think he says something during
oh he does it?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No, because she said, it's that your tartis at the end.
Earlier on in the bunk, the doctor said, the robots
impounded my spaceship mention the tartars that you're targos. So
how does she know? How did she know that's what called?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So she's going to be a special she has special
girl too, sort of like that's why? Whoever? Because at first, too,
like when you mentioned it that someone told the doctor
that she was important, I'm trying to think. I'm like,
was that something that was No, because this is a
new character. The person we saw last year wasn't the
same person, so that I was like, Okay, that's another thing.
That something we're gonna have to figure out this season.
(34:18):
Who the special person was that told her that? You know,
the person was that told him that said that Miss
Blinda Chandra was special. So maybe she is able to
because she was close to it. That's maybe why she
wasn't impressed as much. And she knew what it was
is because she has some familiarity with it or something like.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That thought a fly pasta when she was in the
rocket and she said that he said that that it's
flown past her. But yeah, I just thought it was
interesting that she knew it was called But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
When everything, when everything went or whatever, it was that
word when at the time the close capturing on it
was like sc h w l O P like and I.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Kind of brought up her ancestor or her descendant from
the fifty.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
First century, Mundy Flynn Flynn, which is nice that they
did this where they got that out of the way
because he will be called her. There's been times where
the Doctor Fires of Pompey was one, especially because we
see Peterbali and we see Karen Gillen who later on
are very much important character. And it's happened a lot
(35:41):
Vampires of Venice. The one girl will ended up being
the main one of the main sidekicks on torch would
I can't think of her name right now, So there's
been a lot of reusing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
When and within the Charles Dickens, but they did sort
of reference that and sale that made a bit of
a joke about it, right.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
But at least this one was the first thing he
saw her and was like, oh my god, boom, you
see that. Nothing go boom like that, but yeah, boom
because that was the episode she was in. But then
figured out that that this was a descendant of hers
from three thousand years in the future, and again even
that was she was sort of like, oh cool, but
(36:20):
then was not quite like not impressed with it, but
still sort of like, I think there's something that has
to do with that. She has a strong connection to
something revolving the time Lords or the Tartest or something
where once she gets into proximity like it was that
it sort of was like like something opened up in
(36:42):
her head or is starting to. And now she's started
to be like, Okay, you know, I don't know, maybe
we won't see how much of this because you know,
obviously now you can't get home. So now she's He
even said that when he goes, we're gonna take the
long way home. But I think you're gonna enjoy it
or something. But you know, I don't know. She doesn't
(37:02):
trusting right now, that's for sure, right.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Well, right, because like she pointed out, she just flatly
said you know, she's like, I didn't give you permission
to take my DNA. You know, like she's just which
as she should be upset, you know, like you just
kind of crossed a line when it came to her autonomy.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
There was a sorry going in a complete different direction.
There was a character right at the beginning in the hospital,
and I don't know whether you recognized on the reception
desk when he saw the computer and all the lights
went out. She whether it's just the same actress or
(37:46):
whether it's a character, or whether I'm just thinking too
much into it. In the church on Ruby Road when
the inflatable snowman is falling and the woman with the
pram and she just thoughts out in at the doctor
and he's saying about the baby, and she's got a
shopping in the prom is a stroller, you guys calling,
Oh okay, that actress is the same actress who who
(38:11):
was a receptionist. So now I'm thinking, well, is there
any significance there?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, as we know now that with our discussion a
couple of minutes ago, it could be a huge coincidence,
or it could be no ord He likes using the
same actresses in different roles because if the doctor didn't
recognize although at that time he was just looking for,
you know, the information on how to get to Miss
Belinda Chandra, and they wouldn't you give it to him?
(38:39):
And then of course, yeah, so what he uses the
sonic to sort of zip and he just blacks out
the whole power the average to the hospital. I mean,
people did.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Well, they've got backup generators.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, but even still that's just like but if those
run out, you know, maybe he did something too people.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Maybe if they wouldn't have changed the sonic screwdriver, it
would have been fine. Yeah, it still looks like a
computer mouse. I can't.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
It looks like to me like a compact or a
computer mouse, like a combination of the two.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah, I don't know. I still have issues with it,
but not much.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Screwdriver, but it's it's a driver name sore driver. Yeah,
it's a very wait till wait till he actually opens
trying to like take a door in jaw or something.
See how that works.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
At I used to have a sonic screw driver screen driver.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
You used to have one? What happened to it?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Broke?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I got this. It's a sonic screwdriver like pad.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I had one of those as well, and I spoke, okay,
I have to just has nothing to do with doctor who.
But on my end the two of you are frozen.
Am I frozen on your guys? Okay, you guys are
all right. I can see nothing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That's fine. We can hear you find in. Everything is
doing good.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Years all right to say something at the time.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That you might have gotten my hands or hands manded
what you know, the thing that transmanded transmitted away by
the different before wrapped us up. One other notes do
you have there? Because I know our good friend Karen
writes notes upon her notes, upon her notes, which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
We've covered most things I did quite like on the
X ray blanket when it's on the bottom corner. I
don't know whether you know it's had some writeing and
it had patiently unknown sex and known age undeterminable diagnosis too.
Hot state is excellent. I love random need.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
To rewatch it.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
The throwing room and the a I generate a room
actually the same set, just on a practical point. So
the thrown room was obviously from the other perspective, and
then when you had the owl's room, you obviously had
the bike face very with the the was inside. I
(41:24):
just got Wizard vibes from that one.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Oh yes, so dry, very Dorothy. Yes. And then when
way back I was thinking of it but didn't say
it out loud, was that, you know it's gonna she
just wants to go home and she can't. There's these obstacles.
You know, eventually we'll get there. It was very much
(41:49):
like Dorothy, right, she just wants to get back home.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
We're going up. Well, probably got I didn't watch Wicked
that long ago, so maybe that's in my head.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, so I agree with you. I'm on the same page.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Either of you. Seen Adolescents.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
It's on my list. I want to see it. I
have heard. I want to say on over here there's
a National Public radio and there was an interview with
the actor, the man who who wrote it. I do
not remember his name, but the way that they were
talking about it, and just the excellent reviews with especially
(42:32):
the children, and that they were phenomenal, and that the
way that it was, that it's shot. I'm very intrigued,
and it's on my list, but free time it was limited.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, And second time I've heard about it and the
first time was by James Hues. So it's like it
must be something that the Brits are sort of like telling.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It's right, well, it's it's really ranked up high there
on Netflix, so.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Ahead and visited with the single thing to.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Much anxiety, like if you don't have a break where
you can believe. Yeah, but Karen, what were you going
to say?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
No, it's just I haven't I haven't seen it. I
don't know anything about it. But in a couple of
reviews for this, there was comparisons to adolescents, and I
was just trying to look what what those comparisons must
have been because I haven't seen it, but none of it,
none of us have seen it, so that would be interesting.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yeah, I wonder the only thing I could think of
would be So in this episode, Alan the ex boyfriend,
which good for her. I'm glad she got red flags.
You know when she's she's telling her when you're missus,
your clothes are too tight and you need to do this.
Just very controlling and you know he's just that well
(43:58):
in the stereotypical like rights like telling her, well you
are a miss this is what, telling her how to think.
But and then when he was captured. Of course, he's
like in his room gaming, just their stereotypical guy who,
as she said, an inceel. So maybe he spends a
(44:21):
lot of time online. He has certain ideas of what
it is to be a man, and like what a
woman should be and what their role should be and
be submissive to the man. That crosses over into what
I've heard about adolescence, which is there's a a young
(44:42):
well he's not quite a teenager yet, I don't think
I think he might be twelve thirteen, he's young under sixteen,
and he is he allegedly had had killed his uh
a girl, And the premise is that he's been sort
(45:05):
of brainwashed by things that he's seen online from men
who promote or from people who promote this idea of
suppressing women pretty much and what their role should be.
So that to me is the only through line I
can think of having not seen adolescence yet, but now
(45:29):
I'm even I think it's moved up further on the
docket because that's interesting the comparison. Obviously, adolescence is much darker.
It's like really really dark. So I really I'm curious
to know if any other sort of similarities what they
(45:53):
would be.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah, and trying to lighten it up but still
give you a kind of Our next episode will be
covering Blocks, which is about animated cartoon characters in the
movie theater to come out and do stuff to people.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
So that looks interesting.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. That's one of those
like off the off the just like what you know
in real life could happen, but also like what you know,
especially when the one guy says the ushers like we've
been playing this show to like half full theaters or
empty theaters. It's like, well they're empty afterwards because the
(46:34):
cartoons are coming to life and taking to people. Looks like.
So we'll find out in a week's time. Well yeah,
so more who is always a good thing. So already
I think anything else we have to cover here before
we jump back at the tartists and get stuck wherever
(46:55):
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Don't blink because Timey and Windy Talk is bad. Yes,
that's right. We get a new season of Doctor Who
and the Robot Revolution just aired streamed or however you
get your viewing in these days, and we are here
to talk about it. So grab your sonics head to
the tartist.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But first I did this messages.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, it's time for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Welcome the time Me Windy Talk, the podcast that's bigger
on the inside.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm Karen, I'm Liz, and I'm Brian, and we are
back for season I don't know if you want to
call it season two or season fifteen or season o whatever,
forty one, if you had the old stuff together, because
are they they? Because I remember last season they were
sort of advertising it as season one, but on this
one i've seen go back to say in season fifteen.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, I've seen both.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So it's sort of like the reset again was sort
of I mean, whatever, it's it's born actor who, So
I'm happy about that.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So Disney Plus is considering it season two.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah at least, Yeah, what's the Is there been any
more updates? As everyone that listens to the show knows
that Karen is our woman on the on the ground
over there in I don't mean not yet. I was
to say Joey Old England, but I'm not going to
try and ask, and so she's got all the scuttle
(01:42):
but over there.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So Russell has basically just double down on the fact
that we're not going to hear anything until after season two.
Was it. The current Disney Plus contract includes the first
two seasons, two Christmas specials, and the war between the
(02:04):
London and Sea, so we should after season two's ended
get some sort of decision. RTD swears he knows nothing,
but either way that we're going to end up with
quite a hefty gap because obviously in a normal situation
(02:27):
they would have started writing and pre production for the
next series by now. So yeah, it doesn't look like
we're going to have a Christmas special this year, so
that's good. And then I can't imagine it'll be probably
a couple of years before season three, whether it's with
Disney money or not, because I think it will still
(02:49):
go ahead in some shape or form, if it's just
BBC or whether they have to get another streaming service
on board, be in Netflix or your Prime. But as
I say, as it stands, Disney Plus no decision until
after the final episode.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I'm very out of the loop. So what what would
be the reasoning for that as a budget.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Is that's that's all the signed up for originally was
it was a number of episodes and say it it
equates to these two series and the up come and
spin off, which is the War between the Land and
the Sea, which we don't have a release date for
that so far. It's finished film and it's in post
production as far as I've heard, so that might fill
(03:38):
the gap next year when there's no who.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm thinking too that they could knowing like RTD and
the guys that are in charge, that a lot of
the pre stuff that isn't necessarily needed to be put
in front of cameras they're writing, the casting and other
stuff could already be fully done. They're just waiting, like
we can't physically say anything until we know that you know,
we are going to do something. And like she was
(04:03):
saying Liz, is that it's basically all dependent on viewership
and social media response, which they they netflix and a
lot of the big streamers also do that and figure
how long someone's talking about something. And what's kind of
encouraging is some of the there's a few podcasts that
I don't really listen too much anymore, but keep like
(04:24):
my ear to the ground and see what their reactions
are and everyone, and some of them are guys that
have been around like my age and that have been
Who fans for their whole lives and have gotten kind
of curmudgeony after maybe like the Capaldi era started a
bit and with you know, but they were all just like,
it's a fun Who episode. It was it had stakes,
(04:46):
it had stuff that lay the ground. It wasn't kind
of like completely out of left field. And so that
there's talk about the guys that are like, yes, this
is you know, we're enjoying it again. It's not like
because it seems like Doctor Who fans can be very
critical without being like some other fandoms where it's just like, oh,
I'm done, this is it, this is crap, but they're
(05:07):
they're being able to be open to conversations about it,
whereas this one was just like everything I've read so far,
it's just like I tried to stay away from spoilers,
and it was just like it was a fun episode.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So right after I've gone into the social media and
been reading generally the comments that people have been making
after the episode, and I've got to say it, compared
last season, reception of this one is, as you say,
it has been ninety five positive. And again you want
(05:41):
to they want to complain for the sake of complaining
and oh it's too and all the rest of it.
But to be to be honest, it's been really well received,
which is which is brilliant.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
That's promising I could see just after watching. Not to
say that last year wasn't entertaining, but I feel like
there is definitely a different type of feeling after seeing
this first episode of season two or whatever you want
to call it, series two, whichever, soon whatever number it is.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I'm thinking in my mind is season fifteen, because it's
like that's from the return back in twenty two thousand
and five. Whatever. I think what a lot of people
are maybe gotten used to is last year there was
a lot of things that were the first for the
doctor was you know, the first kiss and the first
romance involund and stuff like that, and even him being
(06:35):
what's the sexuality, which most people are like, I don't care,
but it's also just like, but you even mentioned that,
Liz when we were watching today when the girl what
was her name? Fifty five fifty five?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Oh, I know, I was like, oh, he's going to cry.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, and then the single tier and it's like he's
the doctor that cries. No, the doctor cried. Doctors would
be sentimental and be very like I would assume Matt
Smith's and David Tennants were a lot more you know,
connected to the companions and felt a lot closer relationship.
But David Tenants especially, he knew that, you know, like
(07:15):
Martha was in love with him and stuff, and he
had to keep it distance. This is a whole new doctor,
and so you have to take that as a as
an evolution and the progression. You can't expect every doctor
to be like the doctors before.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
So right, which I think is fine. I think to
me it seems like incorrect me if I'm wrong, But
to me, it seems like this is a break from
the all right, keep calm, carry on, suppress your feelings.
You know, there's not that wall between being vulnerable and Karen.
(07:49):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I think, Well, obviously I think that was the payo
of the foldeenth. Don't bringing Tenant back having those storylines?
Wait the time will be behind him, put all all
the things that had come before behind him to give
shoot you that fresh start. And when we're comparing sort
of like what we've sort of just watched season fifteen,
(08:12):
season two open an episode. Last year, the majority of
the series, I think was trying to introduce Who to
a whole new audients, the Disney Plus audients, So there
was a lot of exposition. There was a lot of
timing episodes where you were getting to know about the
(08:34):
sonic screwdriver, Galla Free, the history of the doctor, as
well as introducing Ruby and her story. So now that
we're seasoning with Disney Plus and with hopefully those news fans,
you can then move ahead with the stories. So now
you don't have to worry so much about all that introduction.
(08:54):
There will be a little bit, because it always is
when you get a new companion both they won't need
it as much, I think, is what I'm trying to say, right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And I know for a lot of times, and it's
sort of the americanizing of something, is that I know
what happens to do a lot of reasons why Marvel
resets their numbers because stuff can be daunting. If all
of a sudden you get thrown and say, hey, here's
Doctor Who, which has always been amazing for me, for
the fact that I've been a Doctor Who fan for
(09:27):
since seeing it in the seventies I saw some Perchree
stuff and then Tom Baker when I was five, six
seven years old. How it never broke in America whatsoever?
I mean, it never became Ed Smith. I think was
the first one that was like they aimed to have.
He had the big thing in New York, in LA
and for it being a global phenomenon, I mean, obviously
(09:50):
it's an institution over in England, but coming in and
resetting itself and I think that could have been the
thing season one last year, and now they're going back
to like the this is part of the new I mean,
it's it's all one linear thing. But if they were
to come out and say season forty one of Doctor
Whoton's like, oh my god, what is this? What some
of those shows over the Coronation Street is that, like
(10:11):
in the fifties or sixties, or one of those shows
that have been on forever that if you try to
catch up, which I can't say is impossible because lizs
has watched me. I rewatched over the last two plus
years of eleven hundred and something episodes of One Piece,
so I'm all caught up to being like as it is,
but I watched that before. But it's a very daunting
thing to try to get people that aren't have never
(10:35):
seen Doctor Who, especially with how much history and there's
still a lot of stuff that they have no idea
about they really don't have not even touched much on,
like the Time War or even like the whole thing
with the Time Lords in Gallifray, when like Timothy Dalton
came back and stuff like that, and even like the
Vallee Ard or any of these characters which have an
(10:57):
importance to it but sort of don't really affect how
storytelling can be going forward.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Now, that makes it easier for new viewers to pop
in and not feel so behind.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
The family show. So you're going to have children growing
up and starting to watch it, so I hope. So
you needed to be that premise way you can jump in,
Like season starters and new Doctors are brilliant starting points
to jump in for any any new viewers. So then
(11:29):
different ones are better than others for jumping in. Let's
say just had the twentieth anniversary of New Who. Rose
is a brilliant episode to start watching, and it was
done with in mind that you are going to get
people because of the hiatus. It wasn't exactly canceled of
(11:50):
so many years. There was a lot of whole generation
who didn't know what Doctor Who was so.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Right now and I remember over here when it came
back on, it just happened to be on a Friday
night on sci Fi Channels where the Ecoston. Because I
was watching, I had recorded most of the shows I
watched in sci Fi Channels and aired on Fridays, and
it was like Stargate at started Atlantis Androma all this
other stuff in Balistar Galactica. And then all of a sudden,
(12:20):
when I was going through the dvr, I or the
programming the thing, I go, oh, my wait, what's this
Doctor Who? And I looked and I see Rose, and
I go, oh, this is the New Who. And then
for like the first I want to say, up until
Matt Smith, it was on sci Fi Channel, and then
they moved at the BBC Americas. At that time, there
wasn't any so even then it wasn't even something that
(12:41):
we saw, but we were just basically seeing it because
he knew that the fans here there was a sort
of die hard quality to it, that you were going
to watch it. They weren't expecting ten million new viewers
to show up from America because I don't even think
ten million people had the Signet Right channel or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Now I could see it on that Prime Amazon Prime
is where I was able to jump in and watch
it was around two thousand and nine. Yeah, I think
if there was only access to like included in your
Prime membership, I believe just season one and two maybe,
(13:21):
and then I had to go and try to get
them from the library or the video store or something
like that. So I no, Archie, I didn't have.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Always sorry lest always sort of his vision was always
to expand it right at the very beginning, and I
think probably to say with BBC America, but then also
with the introduction of bread Box and also embracing San
Diego Comic Con because it started doing Comic Con towards
the end of ten. In theory, I think I think.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It was his last year. It was mark the year
I remember.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Seeing that because they definitely did it for in the
End of Time episodes.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And even that was. It was amazing too with like
how much the intertwining because we didn't get much a
lot of the Sarah Jane inventors here that was on
sort of I think that was on like Sundays. They
aired it at like eleven o'clock, which it fit in
with dend of Time. But Torch would was. I remember
seeing that first episode, I go, Okay, this is not
(14:27):
your your your kids Doctor Who, because it was so
it was basically like the version of Doctor Who. You know,
not that Captain Jack is like that far off, but
it was. It was way more adult, way more you know,
like crime procedural drama thing with a lot of violence
and other stuff. But I'm like, just it was so compelling,
(14:48):
and so with them having all these I'm like, this
is my You're gonna have fifteen different you know, Doctor
Who's too shows, which makes me wonder with like how
the new it's the basically it's the unit show that's
coming up with what they're focusing on. Who's the man.
The bad guys are the devil Niluvians, So they're basically
(15:11):
taking some old characters that we've seen and you know,
doing a little adventure on I hope it does great.
I hope all the Doctor Who stuff does great. But
there's a lot of times where people sort of see
it and go like they've seen it their whole life
and are sort of just like, well, if I've never
been into it now, I'm never going to be into it.
So I hope that's the wrong mentality, but that's how
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some people are. But anyways, we're going to talk.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
About the robot Revolution, reeling it back in.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, we started to get our It's been a while
since we've talked. It's been, you know, a few months
since the Christmas episode, and uh, we got this one.
We got we're gonna have what eight episodes of the season.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yes, eight episodes of season two Potter at the end,
but one every week. It's not going to be like
it's two episodes Tame Night we had at the beginning of.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah. Yeah, especially because there's been a lot of dancing,
especially with we're looking at too like the upcoming season.
Demand or it's twelve episodes, but they're releasing each episode.
Each arc is three episodes, and each week they're going
to release pretty much like a two hour, fifteen minutes
to and a half hour movie. So you're for four weeks,
(16:24):
you're like watching a movie. Likely we don't podcast on
that week and stuff like that. But this is a
matter of just watching it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But I've watched half an hour of the first episode
or the first series, so I've gotten a lot of
catching up what they went on and or it.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Is fantastic, good, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's got that Rogue one. I mean, it's it's the
same field as Rogue one, and it's like the this
is what it's the it's basically the people that do
the stuff that you don't really want to show the
kids what they have to do because you know, there's
always a one side of everything that's sort of like
was catchy, but you got to do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So what you're saying is it's.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's pretty much.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's pretty. It's pretty. It's got that feel too, which
I think is peel. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So just a quick tail of tape here we've got.
This episode was written by RTD, directed by Peter Is
It's Peter Is it Peter Whore? Okay, Oh, I just knows.
Nicholas Briggs did the voices of the robots. Yeah, Nicholas
Briggs is a big guy in the h he was
(17:36):
pretty much like the Cyberman and he does all like
the big he also does he's huge into big finish stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, he'thdolic guy.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Doll like in Cyberman, which, by the way, to over
talk about the episode. The first time I was talking
with when they were explaining after they you know, picked
up miss but in the Chandra, which we should probably
never forget what this companion's full name is because they
said it three hundred thousand times that their whole assimilation
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process with mixing the fush with my bent reminded me
so much of Cybermen.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, straight up.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Which it was just like, okay, well that's what they
want to do. But there, but there, there wasn't there there.
It wasn't exterminate or so it was Polish, Polish, Polish,
I love.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I love a cute little droid. Oh my gosh. Totally.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Then I remember, yes, well that's what that's all I
could think about when when a little Polish Polish like.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
They're like, oh my god, this is so cute. And
then it was when it transmitted with them over and
they're like, oh wait, wait, you can't you know, we
can't have you here. You're like a cell phone, they'll
be able to attract a signal to us here if
I knew something would happen, but he would either be
like the gender specify, which was but is that somehow
(19:10):
it would come back into play a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But oh yeah, there's a reason it was able to
get into there and go with that to the underground.
What did they call it?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I think so something like that the bunker the underground. Yeah,
I can't tell you this just flat out talking about
this episode is that I laughed a lot more than
I thought I was going to, even so much as
that our eight year old was like, what do you
guys laugh? What's so funny? Yeah? The one it hit
(19:45):
me on left field though, is when is like, oh
so plenty of the in cells.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Oh man, that was perfect just when they revealed that
it was just that it was the controlling X and like,
oh this is.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Did you guess?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I didn't you.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But it was really funny though when it was like, oh,
it's not AI, it's l and then it's really that
was funny because Brian actually got a was in a
group message yesterday. He got a message, I don't know,
someone said something about AI and he was like I
kept thinking, who's Al.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, Yeah, our friend Chase sent me this picture because
Playmobile have these, you know, kids toys, and it was
wanted for a momb diffuser. And I'm like, okay, that's
kind of a weird, you know, stretch for Playmobile whatever.
And the Chase is like, it reminded me of AI.
Well capital I and like it looks like is L
(20:48):
and I brought back I'm like, I'm trying to figure
out who L is.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
It was a nice that it reminds you of the
funny synchronicity, Like see, I'm not the only.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
One that thinks AI looks like AL. But then when
they show the in the the AI generator, when he
pop it open, it says AL like, okay, because it
was just black because the lip the top of the
or the bottom part of the L.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But there was, yeah, the levity, you know, every once
in a while it was there are funny moments, but
it wasn't like kind of goofy like how the Space Babies.
I was like, oh, this is just silly.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I don't know not to be I don't want to
be negative, but I feel like this was I just
personally preferred this one you know, with it was there
were funny moments, but it wasn't goofy like timey, whymy
I'm not six, you know those little assigned comments.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah six, like oh geez. The name of our podcast
now because it's I think too is because that there
is a different type of humor like that way. Because
we had just seen a couple of days ago we
went and saw a Minecraft movie, which is very much
a oh my god, it's a goofy, goofball type Jack
(22:03):
Black type comedy, where this is a comedy that's sort
of like the comedy in this is a levity on
how serious everything is. It's sort of just like a
being too serious that it just gets kind of like
bross and you're going, oh my god, what does you
know I need? It doesn't feel like you're enjoying it
(22:23):
with everything as bad as happening. And in this one,
it took me a little bit of a time to
figure outhen we were watching it, what the stakes of
this thing actually are? What is what is actually going
on here? How did this happen? And then all of
a sudden, when he was like, oh, it's a causal
time loop. Everything happened because it happened, and then it
went back to get Alan because she said it. And
then that was ten years and it was happening as
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they were taking her, So it already happened, but it
hadn't happened yet. And then the thing with here's another
thing that we brought up too, Karen, Now we'll ask
your opinion about it. When you were talking about the
certificate and they said two things can't out of time,
can't be in the same place together. Is that not
applied to doctors, because there's been doctors that have been
together and have touched each other and stuff. And it's
(23:06):
not like time cop where if you do it, it's
gonna you're gonna disintegrate. It's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
They do it when it's convenient.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Okay, that's what I was.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
About the paradox, and obviously this time is that everything's
gonna go kaboom. And but yeah, it's when it suits
because obviously you've got the two doctors, the three, the
five doctors. Then you've got even all these different episodes
where you've had the same and a number of doctors
in them.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, they've stressed a bunch of times they're not supposed
to be able to do that. But now it's like
they're always around and every other timeline. I didn't know
it was one other kind of that paradoxical thing. But
as soon as they mentioned that Al was talking and
living in that eight beats and the ninth beat was
sort of not there, and then he goes, please help me,
(24:04):
I'm in pain. The rest of the time you talk,
that did not apply anymore because I was not waiting
for that ninth word, and it was like, oh, it
doesn't matter anything.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I was counting too.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, that kind of just was like put in there
and then just.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I know, starting with each sentence, I don't know, I
was trying to kind of words and I don't know. Anyway,
I think that the writing for this episode was really good.
I enjoyed it. I really enjoyed everything about it. I
enjoyed at the very beginning showing her life just well,
(24:40):
I guess I suppose the very beginning was giving her this, yeah,
giving her this certificate. You know, that's your star. He
called it a star, right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it was actually a planet, well the star system there.
And so hopefully in like six months time, we're not
going to have some people looking for the timey wymy
cast because caring names star the same for us. Oh no,
what's going to happen? That's the first thing I saw.
But that was what the reason it was for Wait
(25:13):
a second, that happened to us.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
But we don't have there's no certificate. It's fine, we
don't have an Allen.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No, we don't have a but she did send us
one in our Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I agree
with you, Liz.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I thought it was a really good episode. I thought
the effects were really it was just so good. The
whole esthetic the fifties sci fi with the row box
and the color and the when the the certificates touched
and you had all of that. I don't know what
you would call that effect. But the way they used
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the sound and the visuals.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Like the visuals was just so neat. It was like
the way that they were able to translate time just
becoming unstable. I guess maybe I don't know that. And
with the glitching, the glitching when she was in the
retro looking spaceship after they took her.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
From the way I told this that I don't know
if any of you Feature Rama fans out there, is
that that ship looked like the Planet express ship that
Stephen J. Fry and all those people in Futurama uses
a delivery vehicle, like, oh my god, I think it's
even the same color too.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And I know we're jumping around all over the place,
which might be appropriate with timy wymy talk. But okay,
missus Flood. So when she was being taken and kidnapped
from her home, we see Missus Flood in the backyard.
Does she just show up conveniently to break the fourth
wall and talk to us or is this the same
neighborhood that.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I think she's moved things from.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
She's got her own portal in every apartment that she listened.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
The doctor said something about somebody had told told him
about Blinda that she was amazing, So obviously this there's
something going on there. So if the doctor knows, then
Missus Floods must maybe no found out and has placed
herself like CHA had with Ruby. Mind the fact that
(27:28):
she's still breaking the fourth wall. I didn't expect that,
and the fact that she started hiding when the doctor
appeared and he ain't seen me.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
That was good the nosy neighbor just like, don't mind me.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I do like the text jumping around a little bit
to the end when he brings her on the ship
and sort of explains everything, and then she figures out
right away that the doctor is dangerous. And then the doctor,
if he has one consistent quality to any iteration, is
that the doctor is dangerous.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
She is she the first companion to just flat out
point that out, where the rest of them are just so.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Just maybe that early yeah, because it was right off the.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Back, like the other ones are under some sort of
like h and they're just just so amazed by the
idea of living this other life and they can, you know,
they can actually kind of escape the mundane and.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
The runnyway Bride when Donna was yeah, she wasn't. She
wasn't tumanamed and just wanted to get No. That's true
at the end now for him as a person or
an alien, but wasn't have no interest in going off
(28:58):
with the skinny space. That's no.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I still remember the one see where he was talking
about it's like, well I did think you want a mate,
and she's like you walk, it's like, no, want a mate,
not want to mate, like as you would say, And
she was always very much like, yeah, there's nothing you know,
I'll do what I can. Although that scene in the
uh uh oh man, what was the episode with the
(29:24):
fat sucking the when they see each other across the
office through the windows and they're like, oh, it's like
they were looking for each other, but it wasn't like
that they were, you know, But yeah, her, I think
this is the first time in recent history where she
gets introduced to the tartist. She comes inside and was
like whoa, looks around, she doesn't say anything. The doctor says, yeah,
(29:48):
it is bigger on the inside than the outside, like
he like says it to her, and then from there
she's even sort of just like I've even seen, Like
the sort of slogan for this season is it's going
to be a long way home. So the whole season
is trying to get her back to the day, which
obviously we can't now because the last scene is like, yeah,
(30:09):
the planet blew up, so that's why you can't get
to that time, which doesn't make sense in the sense
that he's already been past that time now on Earth
and we know that doctor who isn't like a split
reality type thing like Marvel Universe is. It's just like
you can't sort of It reminds me too, like when
sometimes he's gone back to try to stop stuff or
(30:32):
you like put the whole like, we can't go it's
a fixed point in time. We can't change it. I
can't go there. I can't do anythingwhere trying to get
back to the dale. What's so special about May twenty?
It isn't that the May twenty sixth or whatever? The
twenty Yeah, isn't that that's the That's.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
The date of the second last episode, right, I would
say that's like I love that, And so I did
google It's Queen Victoria's birthday and it is Memorial Day
in the US.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, the google mem as long as the last Monday
in May. So but yeah, that's okay. So I basically
splits this whole season into racing towards a actual date
of when we're going to write about when we're going
to see the final episode, into like in that time,
maybe the way things are going right now with a
(31:27):
lot of stuff might be the reality that we don't
know about. Oh, thanks for r t D.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I don't know. I'm just going to go the cat.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh yeah, it's irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Lucally, you didn't actually see the cat you just saw
the but that's a bit harsh.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I did like the faction tell tell such and such
a number whatever. A cat's gone to live on a farm,
the farm that you've got rid of the dog.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
M?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Did you? Did you know if this is just me
being me, that the house that Blinda lived in it
looked like Donna's house.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It looked like.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Well and that was yeah. I mean it's isn't It's
just kind of like the typical layout of a uh
like a townhouse is what you know, considered here right
a row house?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Would it be?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I don't know, ter house? Okay, yeah, yeah, I I agreed.
I was looking. I was like, wow, this is a
that's a really nice home. Everything looks like redone and
modern and it looks really nice.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
And then it got smashed up.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I know, I would be very uh how rude.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah. So basically, like I'm trying to think of any
other points that we didn't bring up in this episode,
because it was pretty much like, yeah, we got to stop.
Oh the X ray blankets her.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
That was so cool medical advancements.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And it was a good way to get the two
hearts in.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yes, I knew that was going to happen. I knew
who was going to do that.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Good little thing. The fact that Blinda knew the name
of the tartis.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Well, she said he I think he says something during
oh he does it?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No, because she said, it's that your tartis at the end.
Earlier on in the bunk, the doctor said, the robots
impounded my spaceship mention the tartars that you're targos. So
how does she know? How did she know that's what called?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So she's going to be a special she has special
girl too, sort of like that's why? Whoever? Because at first, too,
like when you mentioned it that someone told the doctor
that she was important, I'm trying to think. I'm like,
was that something that was No, because this is a
new character. The person we saw last year wasn't the
same person, so that I was like, Okay, that's another thing.
That something we're gonna have to figure out this season.
(34:18):
Who the special person was that told her that? You know,
the person was that told him that said that Miss
Blinda Chandra was special. So maybe she is able to
because she was close to it. That's maybe why she
wasn't impressed as much. And she knew what it was
is because she has some familiarity with it or something like.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That thought a fly pasta when she was in the
rocket and she said that he said that that it's
flown past her. But yeah, I just thought it was
interesting that she knew it was called But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
When everything, when everything went or whatever, it was that
word when at the time the close capturing on it
was like sc h w l O P like and I.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Kind of brought up her ancestor or her descendant from
the fifty.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
First century, Mundy Flynn Flynn, which is nice that they
did this where they got that out of the way
because he will be called her. There's been times where
the Doctor Fires of Pompey was one, especially because we
see Peterbali and we see Karen Gillen who later on
are very much important character. And it's happened a lot
(35:41):
Vampires of Venice. The one girl will ended up being
the main one of the main sidekicks on torch would
I can't think of her name right now, So there's
been a lot of reusing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
When and within the Charles Dickens, but they did sort
of reference that and sale that made a bit of
a joke about it, right.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
But at least this one was the first thing he
saw her and was like, oh my god, boom, you
see that. Nothing go boom like that, but yeah, boom
because that was the episode she was in. But then
figured out that that this was a descendant of hers
from three thousand years in the future, and again even
that was she was sort of like, oh cool, but
(36:20):
then was not quite like not impressed with it, but
still sort of like, I think there's something that has
to do with that. She has a strong connection to
something revolving the time Lords or the Tartest or something
where once she gets into proximity like it was that
it sort of was like like something opened up in
(36:42):
her head or is starting to. And now she's started
to be like, Okay, you know, I don't know, maybe
we won't see how much of this because you know,
obviously now you can't get home. So now she's He
even said that when he goes, we're gonna take the
long way home. But I think you're gonna enjoy it
or something. But you know, I don't know. She doesn't
(37:02):
trusting right now, that's for sure, right.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Well, right, because like she pointed out, she just flatly
said you know, she's like, I didn't give you permission
to take my DNA. You know, like she's just which
as she should be upset, you know, like you just
kind of crossed a line when it came to her autonomy.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
There was a sorry going in a complete different direction.
There was a character right at the beginning in the hospital,
and I don't know whether you recognized on the reception
desk when he saw the computer and all the lights
went out. She whether it's just the same actress or
(37:46):
whether it's a character, or whether I'm just thinking too
much into it. In the church on Ruby Road when
the inflatable snowman is falling and the woman with the
pram and she just thoughts out in at the doctor
and he's saying about the baby, and she's got a
shopping in the prom is a stroller, you guys calling,
Oh okay, that actress is the same actress who who
(38:11):
was a receptionist. So now I'm thinking, well, is there
any significance there?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, as we know now that with our discussion a
couple of minutes ago, it could be a huge coincidence,
or it could be no ord He likes using the
same actresses in different roles because if the doctor didn't
recognize although at that time he was just looking for,
you know, the information on how to get to Miss
Belinda Chandra, and they wouldn't you give it to him?
(38:39):
And then of course, yeah, so what he uses the
sonic to sort of zip and he just blacks out
the whole power the average to the hospital. I mean,
people did.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Well, they've got backup generators.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, but even still that's just like but if those
run out, you know, maybe he did something too people.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Maybe if they wouldn't have changed the sonic screwdriver, it
would have been fine. Yeah, it still looks like a
computer mouse. I can't.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
It looks like to me like a compact or a
computer mouse, like a combination of the two.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah, I don't know. I still have issues with it,
but not much.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Screwdriver, but it's it's a driver name sore driver. Yeah,
it's a very wait till wait till he actually opens
trying to like take a door in jaw or something.
See how that works.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
At I used to have a sonic screw driver screen driver.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
You used to have one? What happened to it?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Broke?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I got this. It's a sonic screwdriver like pad.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I had one of those as well, and I spoke, okay,
I have to just has nothing to do with doctor who.
But on my end the two of you are frozen.
Am I frozen on your guys? Okay, you guys are
all right. I can see nothing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That's fine. We can hear you find in. Everything is
doing good.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Years all right to say something at the time.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That you might have gotten my hands or hands manded
what you know, the thing that transmanded transmitted away by
the different before wrapped us up. One other notes do
you have there? Because I know our good friend Karen
writes notes upon her notes, upon her notes, which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
We've covered most things I did quite like on the
X ray blanket when it's on the bottom corner. I
don't know whether you know it's had some writeing and
it had patiently unknown sex and known age undeterminable diagnosis too.
Hot state is excellent. I love random need.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
To rewatch it.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
The throwing room and the a I generate a room
actually the same set, just on a practical point. So
the thrown room was obviously from the other perspective, and
then when you had the owl's room, you obviously had
the bike face very with the the was inside. I
(41:24):
just got Wizard vibes from that one.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Oh yes, so dry, very Dorothy. Yes. And then when
way back I was thinking of it but didn't say
it out loud, was that, you know it's gonna she
just wants to go home and she can't. There's these obstacles.
You know, eventually we'll get there. It was very much
(41:49):
like Dorothy, right, she just wants to get back home.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
We're going up. Well, probably got I didn't watch Wicked
that long ago, so maybe that's in my head.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, so I agree with you. I'm on the same page.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Either of you. Seen Adolescents.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
It's on my list. I want to see it. I
have heard. I want to say on over here there's
a National Public radio and there was an interview with
the actor, the man who who wrote it. I do
not remember his name, but the way that they were
talking about it, and just the excellent reviews with especially
(42:32):
the children, and that they were phenomenal, and that the
way that it was, that it's shot. I'm very intrigued,
and it's on my list, but free time it was limited.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, And second time I've heard about it and the
first time was by James Hues. So it's like it
must be something that the Brits are sort of like telling.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It's right, well, it's it's really ranked up high there
on Netflix, so.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Ahead and visited with the single thing to.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Much anxiety, like if you don't have a break where
you can believe. Yeah, but Karen, what were you going
to say?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
No, it's just I haven't I haven't seen it. I
don't know anything about it. But in a couple of
reviews for this, there was comparisons to adolescents, and I
was just trying to look what what those comparisons must
have been because I haven't seen it, but none of it,
none of us have seen it, so that would be interesting.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yeah, I wonder the only thing I could think of
would be So in this episode, Alan the ex boyfriend,
which good for her. I'm glad she got red flags.
You know when she's she's telling her when you're missus,
your clothes are too tight and you need to do this.
Just very controlling and you know he's just that well
(43:58):
in the stereotypical like rights like telling her, well you
are a miss this is what, telling her how to think.
But and then when he was captured. Of course, he's
like in his room gaming, just their stereotypical guy who,
as she said, an inceel. So maybe he spends a
(44:21):
lot of time online. He has certain ideas of what
it is to be a man, and like what a
woman should be and what their role should be and
be submissive to the man. That crosses over into what
I've heard about adolescence, which is there's a a young
(44:42):
well he's not quite a teenager yet, I don't think
I think he might be twelve thirteen, he's young under sixteen,
and he is he allegedly had had killed his uh
a girl, And the premise is that he's been sort
(45:05):
of brainwashed by things that he's seen online from men
who promote or from people who promote this idea of
suppressing women pretty much and what their role should be.
So that to me is the only through line I
can think of having not seen adolescence yet, but now
(45:29):
I'm even I think it's moved up further on the
docket because that's interesting the comparison. Obviously, adolescence is much darker.
It's like really really dark. So I really I'm curious
to know if any other sort of similarities what they
(45:53):
would be.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah, and trying to lighten it up but still
give you a kind of Our next episode will be
covering Blocks, which is about animated cartoon characters in the
movie theater to come out and do stuff to people.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
So that looks interesting.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. That's one of those
like off the off the just like what you know
in real life could happen, but also like what you know,
especially when the one guy says the ushers like we've
been playing this show to like half full theaters or
empty theaters. It's like, well they're empty afterwards because the
(46:34):
cartoons are coming to life and taking to people. Looks like.
So we'll find out in a week's time. Well yeah,
so more who is always a good thing. So already
I think anything else we have to cover here before
we jump back at the tartists and get stuck wherever
(46:55):
we're going to be going, so between this week and
then on every World, So okay. In the meantime, you
want to try to get a hold of us at
the network, you can email us at Spark Podcast at
Spark with a C at gmail dot com. We're on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
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(47:16):
shows at the Stranded Pandon Network, which is this show
is a part of the Source Speeches network over there.
So yeah, all right, nothing else. We will see you
guys next week. Until then, stay I don't even know Bye.
(47:48):
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