Southern California Business Report Sept 30 25 Guest Kristine D. Scott President & City of Rancho Cucamonga, Council Member

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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I'm absolutely thrilled to introduce Christine D. Scott, who is
a powerhouse in Southern California public affairs and local leadership
as president of the cal Cities Inland Empire Division and
Rancho Cucamonga council member, she champions regional progress while managing
public affairs for SoCal Gas across the Inland Empire. With

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a legacy of success in strategic communications, Christine has shaped
pivotal campaigns for Fortune five hundreds and public agencies alike.
Her dedication extends beyond her career. She serves on influential boards,
uplifts community causes, and has earned accolades including Woman of
the Year and the Inland Empire Economic Partnership's President's Award.

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A proud Rancho Kokamonga resident, Christine's commitment to service, leadership
and community impact is matched only by her devotion to
her rescue dog, George, which I just learned is the
three million.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Dollars is a nickname. It's a nickname. It's a nickname.
But we'll hear more about it next.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Her journey is a testament to the power of purpose
driven leadership in building stronger, more vibrant communities. Christine, thank
you for making the time to share your work with
us today. Thank you appreciate the opportunity to be here today.
Wonderful So you know, talking about your rescue dog, because
we all love our rescue dogs.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Tell us about George and how you brought him into
the fold.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, I promise I won't be matching George Padiam more
of this conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I don't know, but sure. So George is our rescue dog.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I adopted him and came to a council meeting about
six years ago. We actually had a son, a member,
James Ramos, come to our council because he donated a
three month not donated, but provided a three million dollars
grant for a dog.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Park that's been open for some time now.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
When in Matchakukamanga is the yellow dog statue and so
the staff thought would be a great idea to promote
also our fosters and shelter dogs, and George was selected.
He's a little tiny and he kind of stole the
show for the assembly, which I don't think he liked
too much, and I fell in love end up fostering

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and adopting him, and he's been with me for six
years since now. And he's also an advocate for the
animal helter So he's kind of more popular than I
am around town. And so he's got the nickname of
the three million dollar Dogs.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
So you know, we all love our dogs, and this
one comes with a very special and beautiful story and
a testament to community buildings.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
So let's move.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
On to talk about what initially inspired you to pursue
role in shaping culblic policy at the local and regional level.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Now, yeah, no, a great question.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
So you're on the council since twenty eighteen, and it
was never my intention or idea event for office. I
was very involved in the community on the library foundation
raisent money for our second story and library. So but
pull the policy has already always inspired me, interested in me,
that is what I do for a living for utilities

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Opel Gap. And so when the opportunity presented itself for
me to actually take part and established and set policy
for the city that I belonged and love and volunteer in,
you know, and there was an opportunity, I wouldn't say
I jumped at the chance, how to be a little
bit talked into, but I had an opportunity, and for
since twenty eighteen now I've been working with my colleagues

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and the mayor on the council to help, you know,
make sure that everytual could.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Come on best day as this world class community that
we wanted to.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Be right, and I'm sure you know running for office
is something that requires a little bit of.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Coaxing, right, it does it?

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Does?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
You know?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I've been involved throughout the Empire for more than twenty
five years now, and part of that was when I
first started off, I was doing political campaigns. The first
campaign I ever before was for a guy named Dennis Michael,
who happened to be our mayor because he was running
for council at the time. And I really applauded and
appreciate anyone that wanted to put themselves out there.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's not easy putting yourself out there.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
You get I'm a lost scrutiny and it's tough, is
and so I appreciated being behind the scenes, and I'm
always looking for people to be like, hey, you should
run for office, you'd be good at this. So when
the opportunity kind of presented itself, of course, I was like,
no way, I don't want to do this. And we

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were in districts, so they were looking for someone that
lived in this area, the former council member, and I
really had to think about it because again I prefer
behind the scenes, not being up front. But then I
thought about it and thought, well, you know who better
in terms of knows the area has been involved. But
also how could I ask people to run for office
when I've never done it myself? And so I decided

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to do that and then if I was going to
do it, gonna win. So it's very hard, it's very challenging,
and you you know, you understand why why people that would.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Be a good don't because it is. It's a lot
of work.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
People don't realize, you know, reading your you don't just
show up to meetings. You reach your agendas. You have
to get engaged. You have to as we were earlier,
I was taking the constituent of calls.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
It's just a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
And it's a volunteer position for the most part, so
it's not our paid position. So it does take a
lot of time if you want to do it right.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Right, and you've been doing it right for quite a while. Now.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Tell us a little bit about Branch of Cucamonga, because
it's a beautiful city at the base of Mount Baldy
are also San Antonio Mountain. Tell us what Ranchakumuca looks
like for those that may not be familiar.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Well, you know, I'm going to be a little bit
biased to say it's the crowd roll of the Illan Empire,
but really we're, you know, nestled. I guess we still
call the San Gabriel Mountains, but we are.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
We are a grancho of Puckamonga.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
And the id of exciting time for our city because
there's two things happening next year, Root sixty six in
a turn one hundred and we have Root sixty six.
We have the old gas station in our city. But
also our city is turning fifty years old. Now I
think fifty is very young, I'll just say that, but
in twenty twenty seven we'll be turning fifty.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
So we're gearing up for that. And for a city that.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Contrasts to our neighbors, it's still a very next city
being fifty.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
We really are just we want to call.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Ourselves and we have called ourselves the council as a
world class community. There's there's a lot of the family community,
there's a lot of opportunities. We have Victoria Gardens, so
folks that don't know that's Rancho Cucamanga. We've been in
the news a lot because we are getting the bright
line high speed rail that will however you want to
look at it either starts a Rancho or ins a

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Rancho and.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Goes to Las Vegas. That's a huge deal. Uh. We
got the first shay shocked in the Inland and part
which I'm pretty proud of.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
And so there's a lot of great opportunities here in
Rancho Cuckamanga.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
It's a great community.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
It started off, believe it or not, the Wines, so
the great swear and that's what we're kind of you
seeing the great. It's a great great either today, in
fact recently we just this past Saturday and it opens tomorrow.
The old historic Feleepy Winery woman now we call the Lena.
So there's an Indian new going back to our roots.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
A little bit. So you know, I'm moving forward. We
got great schools.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
It's just a wonderful community to be involved in. And
so we're really pleased that, you know, Grantual could Amanda.
We even have our own themed Sooty can download on
on iTunes and proceeds benefit the second story, which is
our interactive museum. We're the first in the area to
have something like that here. You're just so very exciting.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
A lot of first, I'm really excited probably be part
of franchow. Well, it absolutely sounds like a crown jewel.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And I absolutely look a door and have enjoyed places
like Victoria Gardens, raised my kids there, so it's just
absolutely a world class place. And you know, in addition
to all of these hats that you wear, your also
the incoming president for cal Cities in an Empire.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well I've been there president for the last two years.
Oh oh okay, so you're the president.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
And the current pres in and actually I'm sad to
say is my term will be ending and in your future,
which it's a lot of works. Been two years of
being the current president, and then I'll go vice president,
but that is also I mean, I'll go past president.
But it's just it's a lot of work I've involved. Yeah,
I wanted to serve as the president of the cal
Cities Inland Empire Division. We represent about fifteen cities across

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Sabridino County, so from Ukaipa down to chino Chio Hills,
and basically my role involves facilitating collaboration among our city
leaders mostly elected officials and their city staff, guiding policy input,
and ensuring our regent's voice is heard at.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
The state level, which is really important.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's very important, And so for the average listener, they're
not very Unless you're actually actively involved in municipality governance,
public policy, you wouldn't really be very familiar with cal Cities.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
So can you tell us a little bit about cal.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Cities in general, cal Cities Inland Empire and its mission
and how it's evolved to meet the needs of.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Southern California's diverse communities.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Sure, okay, let me see if I can get all that,
but also are up with the leg So cal Cities
we just recently changed, well I should say I'm not
a staff i'mber right there on cal Cities. It recently
changed its name from the League of California Cities, which
more people might be more familiar with, and now would
call it Calcities. And it really is founded back in
like eighteen ninety eight, and it's a powerful advocate tool

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for California cities. All four hundred and eighty three cities
and almost I would say every city, but for the
most part, most cities from northern to southern California and
belong to this organization. And it basically defends and expands
local control through legislation, advocacy, sometimes they go action and
public education. In fact, next week it's a big week

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for cal cities because we'll have our annual conference, which
is really kind of fun because every city that's a
member will get together alone beach MBNC council members and
here about some of the issues that we should be
aware of as council members.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Some of the topics, you know, whether it's.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Public safety, homelessness, help some cities have helped with these issues,
and so there's a lot of good learning process since
and now all the like the backbone of cow cities
across Throough's advocacy. So our division we developed region specific
programs and support legislative regulatory and develop measures sometimes. So

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we meet our division probably every other month in different
cities throughout our division. Trying to remember the last time
we met which city because it feels like it was
just yesterday. But we tried to shift it around and
do an east end west end meeting and try to
bring in speakers that are doing things that we cities
can learn from. So we've had like the share of

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Calm that is several times.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
He's always a well attended meeting to come to.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
But we have just different things that transportation issues, just
trying to showcase and highlight different issues that members should
be aware of. We're actually excited because we'll have our
division meeting next week at the Lady of Cities Conference
and we were able to secure a doctor Lucy Jones
as our speaker, So I'm really excited about that and

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it's already sold out for our lunch division. But hoping
she can talk about infrastructure and also of course she's
the Earth's Queen, so and emergency in preparedness which cities
should be doing and prepared and hopefully get some tips
from her. So we work together and try to really
find a way that we can collaborate and again focus

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on the in Empire being one voice, because a lot
of times things that happen up in Sacramento they like
to i won't say always that they like to target
the Lane Empire for some reason. And so it really
helps when you have all fifteen cities in this division
working together to represent one voice.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
And there's different divisions in the Inland Empire.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
For Calcides, my division that I'm president of happens to
be the sam Redino One like I indicated, but we have.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
A High Desert Division which focuses up the.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Cities of the High Samardo County, and there's also a
rivercent County division.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
And what's been.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Really great is that under my goal as president, I
wanted to make sure that we met and work together.
So it was the first time that they've done it
in a very long time that we've had joint meetings
as three divisions, which has been very helpful. Especially our
last time media was in Riverside and we had the
Shares and the district attorneys come and talk.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
About you know, prob. Three six and the new and
public safety.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
So it really is again showing that the Illine Empire
can be one voice.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's impressive how cal cities and particularly cal cities Inland
Empire is able to garner all of that effort together
and really create a collaborative environment for cities to clean
off of what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
That needs improvement or how to move forward.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But talk about how cal cities coordinates efforts to respond
effectively to major public policy issues.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
In the Inland Empire and beyond.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
It could be tricky sometimes because there could be if
there's like a bill or something being proposed. Sometimes cities
may not always agree on it, and sometimes they do,
but for the most part, you know, through this organization,
council members can have a discussion. We held a strategic
planning session last year. This is what what are some
of the priorities that we should work closely with council

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member debordors product from the City of Ontario. We's been
really a good voice to say, hey that you should
be aware of this.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
You should be aware of this. So a lot of.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Cities have legislative platforms that they adopt and so once
bills fall under that platform that they either oppose or support,
don't get letters of support and opposition.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
But the League has done a really good job.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
When we have different public affairs managers that work for
the League pel cities that let us know through an email, Hey,
this is going to be going to the floor. You
guys need to be calling your legislation. You guys need
to be you know, sitting in letters of support. Call
call these folks. And so we call it a little billboard.
And so we've been able to band together and say hey,
make sure your CITs are you know, if you have

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a position on make sure you're calling you know, the
family member or the senator on this when that represents
your area, and making sure they've heard you, because a
lot of times what happens is that you know, they'll
hear from us, but I think they also want to hear.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
From their constituents.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
And we're hearing from our constituents too, but you know,
we're trying to also spread the word to our constituents
like it's great the they are from us, but they
also want to hear from folks that they don't hear
from all the time how this is either good or
bad for their cities. So we try to spread the
word out because unfortunately a lot of these bills that
we've seen do take away and reduce local control for

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local elective leaders, and so sometimes when people find out
about that, it's too late and there's nothing that can
be done. So for us, we're trying to advocate and
making sure that we as Kelsey's, make sure we maintain
local control of our cities, right and I even we
even wear these little buttons that said in this case,
I know cities need local control Debordow's product radios, but

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that's important for us to make sure that we try
to keep us much local controls.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Right, So I understand one of those bills currently on
your radar for cause cities is AB ninety eight, which
is the.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Warehouse development Surge in the il An Empire.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Can you talk about that and why it is that
it's such an important part of your advocacy.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh, you know, this.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Bill has been coming around in different shapes and forms.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I don't know, three or four years now, it's with
ABY one thousand.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I mean, it's just been different bills, and so this
one was important because let's be real, empire, we are
manufacturing warehouse industry. A lot of people, families and jobs
rely on it, and then there need to be a balance.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know. Obviously there are some cities where.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
You have schools next to some of them and it
just depends on the planning of it. So there is
some concern about that, and you know, the warehouse expansion
and the impact on communities. And so when when was
it last year when we had two competing bills that
were targeting the il An Empire. First it started off
statewide and so as a division we went to the

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state and said, hey, this is not good for our region.
Is the board that I take a position on it,
and unfortunately because at that time they said it's just
stay out of it. Okay, fine, But then when it
became a bill just targeting the illin Empire, we went
back to them and said, hey, this is going to
be bad for a regent.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Can you can you help us? Can you you know?

Speaker 4 (17:25):
And at that time they didn't want to take the
position because it was statewide. It was just an ill
An empire. So as a division, we started leading some
conversation with the filmmakers, letting them know that this is
why this bill would not be good for our region.
And you know, it died, but then it came back.
We were prepared for it, and we were prepared because
we went back and a lot of the mayors and

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council members of the league went back to the league
and said, look, we needed you. You say we should
have keep for a local trold, but where were you
on this issue.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
We need your help. So they formed our warehouse working group.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
We it just started with the Illine Empiwer Division and
we roped in Riverside and we roped in the high
Desert because again we felt like this was going to
be targeted to the Inland Empire. So we started meeting
like on a mothly basis to try always shape policy
that if this is going to come, let's just make
sure it's something that we can balance.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
And so we continue.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
That networking group started out to be basive by a
state wide working group, so that city throughout the state
working on this Warehouse Working Group, and the group aimed
to balance at nom development with environmental justice, especially in
you just like the Elan Empire or where warehouse grows
is rapid and so cal cities played a critical role
in shaping and revising AB ninety eight, which is to

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landmark quigly in our house developed statewide bill and it
passed in twenty twenty four restrict and post rict mandates
on our cities, including a circulation element of dates and
buffer zones arounds of reporters.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Again, this was a bill that we felt like it
was not as.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
One of size fits all, and that's what happens times
because communities are very different. Ranch is very different than
our neighbors across the street where we have our houses
only in one little period to our general plan. So
because of this workhouse Working Group, we were able to
exampt smaller cities and counties from immediate compliance, allow local
ordinances in place costly circulation at base because this could

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cost toies thousands of dollars by not being able to
do that. And it protected cities from parentlies that they
are working at good faith because this does have could
have a financial impact on cities.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Some sities don't have the money to do that.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
But again to show by working together we can get
things done.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Right, which takes us back to why advocating for local
control is so vital to the health and vibrancy of
our cities.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
It is, it really is, I mean again, which it
didn't used to be as hard, and now it's just.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Getting more challenging with local control, which sometimes doesn't make
sense my personal opinion, because a lot of the folks
that go up to.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Sacramento came from local cities.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
They were us at one point, and now they're up there,
and so it's like, well, wait a minute, you were
you were one of us, and now you're trying to
take away local control. And then sometimes they come back
and want to be either counsel or other almost it's like,
well wait a minute, you were up there, or it's
a lot of control. So just because at the end
of the day, when you take away local control, a
lot of our constituents get upset by certain things that

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are beyond our control. And I hate sound like broker
records saying my hands are tight, but for a lot
of things, my hands are tight and I can't I
can't change that.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Right, So let's talk about how recent legislative trends attempt
to centralize authority at the state level and what are
the implications for local governance.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, some of the trends is usually with lately with
affable affordable housing has been you know, clearly we have
a housing, affordable housing issue. I hear all the time
from folks that you know, my kids grew up here
in Mucho.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
They want to brand kids holder around the corner. But
the housing is done attainable.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
I mean when an average home start, our homes like
eight hundred nine hundred thousand, I don't know about you do.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
That to me when I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Is like a rely hills to start our all amounts
and reaction, but that's the reality is unfortunately, and so
you know what is affordable housing. You want people to
have to spend thirty more than three percent of their
income on home. You want to be able to have
your teachers, your public safety folks, your young families, be
able to afford a little the communities that maybe they working.

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And so I think we all agree that we want
more affordable housing, but unfortunately some of the means are
the ways they're doing affordable housing have take away some
control when it comes to what does that development.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Look like, some of the zoning issues and things like that.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
For example, one of the things that was implement and
it was really hard for us to and it was
the first globe of local control that we saw started
taking away with the aid US Sex Sensory Dwelling units.
You know, again they wanted more ADUs because that could
help with the affordable housing issue. Okay, but unfortunately governors

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signed a new bill and forgive me, I have to
read my notes because I always get these confused AB
two twenty five thirty three and SEB twelve one, and
that basically these laws mandate that local organces must conform
to the state ADU laws or they will be rendered
all in void.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
So what does this mean.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I mean cities must approve ADUs and basically our local
agencies also not cities cannot pose development standards like height setbacks,
are parking beyond what the state allows, So basically the
state says they can do this and again and so tied.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
And there's some concerns.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
With with the ADUs. You know, the lot of people
that are building ADUs and they're becoming actually very popular
in our town. And I'm proud of our staff because
our staff was proactive and rancho and created a ADU
kind of like a guide like step point, you should
be doing that, step two to make it kind of
a steamless transition.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
You have to have your permanence. You have to do this.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
But some of the concerns that we heard from other
communities was that, you know, what does the skill look like,
I'm parking so ADU. How many cars is that going
to bring? And are they going to park people to
park in the driveway? Are they going to park on
the street. And it is with ameral like and also
the impacts that has on the infrastructure exactly the gas
and the.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Water and all that.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
So there's there's a lot of concerns and so we
see a trend there's more people doing ad us. A
lot of times they're doing them, so they're you know,
We used to call these granny flats and now you
see their families. So there are you know, it's a
firm of kids or my grandkids there. They're putting them
back there. So as long as they're you know, a
biding body, you should have pulled in the permise, right.

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But the end, that's something that the state take away
our local control being able to say it, here's the height,
here's the setback, because some neighbors may get mad that
they may a certain high or certain you know, going
against their their events a little bit, and we and
you don't have any.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Say in how that happens. We can say, is all.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Your state legislator, oh Marbeau, that was beyond our control,
and when that was being proposed, we did, we did advocate,
and you can say.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's well, thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
We're going to follow up after the break, everybody, you
bet Walkworth the ABC News and Talks Southern California Business
Report here today with Christine D. Scott, president of Cal
City's Inland Empire, and Rancho Cucamonga council member who shapes
the regional progress at so Cal's gas public affairs manager
celebrated for her dynamic leadership, advocacy and award winning service

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across southern California. Her impact unites communities and inspires changed
throughout the Inland Empire.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
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Speaker 2 (28:30):
So prior to the break, we were talking about ADUs,
its impact and how it's mostly governed or primarily governed
by Sacramento. What are the challenges and opportunities associated with
these state mandated housing quotas for municipalities.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Sure, so I'll try and sort's best by canon dance
coming for me as a council member here. But you know,
I think let's be world the governor of candals that
we have to build so many houses by certainty here.
So the supply and demand issue we did, and so
we all are affordable housing. Well again I said earlier,
miwaka kids, grandkids to all live in our communities. What

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comes with that, though, is some of the challenges are
You've got NIMBYism, you got people that I have mine,
don't want any want to have theirs. And then you've
got some issues of some cities are built out match
Puka Munca here you you probably can see it, but
we're about eighty five percent built delt So where are
we going to put that? Recently, a few years ago,

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the Southern California Association of Governments also known.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
As SKAG came out with something with the arena.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
It's called the Regional Housing Needs Assessment, and it's a
process that tells cities each city and County and southern
California how many homes they need to pland for at
all income levels over an eight year period. And so
Marina as we call it stands for short. It helps,
I think, address the housing crisis by unlocking public land

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for for and it shures transparency and fairness and hou
cities dispose of the public assets and also encourages collaboration
between cities and affordable housing developers. So I can just
speak on the matter in terms of city ranch in Pukamaga.
So each city was dealt with a rena number.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
What does that look like? How many homes do we
have to plan for?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
And again it's not it's not that they have to
plan building tomorrow, but it's like, hey, you have to
build a certain amount or set a.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Side plan for this.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
And so our numbers compared to others, I an ex.
San Diego is like the not thousands and hundreds of thousands.
We have ten ten thousand as a city of new
housing units to plan for during a certain cycle moments.
So we're trying to as the best as I can,
you know, trying to plan for that. So we have data,
a general plan and trying to use that assessment. So
it means how we have housing that is being proposed

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that goes towards our RENA numbers. So again hopefully that
helps with the affordability issue. But again, what people think
of horrible They think a certain word.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
And it's not what you're think it is.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
So what is it actually for those that are expressing
nimbiism because they don't want affordable housing in their backyard,
what does.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Affordable housing actually look like? Well, I think there's two
things they know.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Affordable housing I always going to, oh, I don't want
those people living next door in near whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
No affordable holising. You know, we hear this word all
the time.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
And again, as I mentioned earlier, some of this affordable
housing is starting off a seven hundred, six hundred, seven.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
I don't know about you, but I don't know about
a family of four, and I fixed that that mean
to me, that's not affordable all, which is different from
Section eight. So affordable housing, I think we're really again
the definition right, and I looked it up and I
still don't know if I understand it or not agree
with it. I should say, is that affordable housing is
a home that a personal family can afford without spending

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more than thirty percent of their income or mortgage including utilities.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I'm not sure if that's realistic anymore.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
So again I think affordable we hear a little are
times at workforce housing.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I don't know if you've heard that work terms, So there's.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Going there's a shift from calling it affordable housing to
workforce housing. And again workforce housing, they want teachers, we
want public safety folks, We have people that serve our community,
nurses to be able to live in the cities that
they work in, and even that is getting an opposition.
So now there's a new term I've heard recently, and
it's hero housing or housing for heroes, and we're still

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talking about public safety or officials, teachers, you know, those
that serve our communities, and so really it is trying
to find a way to.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Bring more affordable housing into it.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
But unfortunately, as we know, with regulations, some of the
things that have been I'm planned all.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
This, those all add to the cost of the home.
Unfortunately people have to pay.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
So trying to find that balance of how do we
keep things reasonable affordable is still a challenge, and so
I think there's tools through the arena and through other methods,
we're trying to find an opportunity to make things affordable.
And that just for homes, but I think that also
those for apartments too. There are a lot of things
popping up at Rancho recently, a lot more apartments, and

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those plans were approved back in the eighties, maybe before
I was on the council, but they're finally coming to
development now because the developers money be Even those people
have their opinions about apartments, but some of these apartments,
I mean a seven hundred square foot apartment just opened
up and they were starting at twenty three hundred dollars for.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
A seven hundred square foot apartment.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
I don't know about you, but that doesn't seem and
that's affordable. Saying that just seems a little bit unaffordable,
but that's that's the reality of we're looking so how
do we make things more affordable? And so there's still
going to be a debate, but again when it comes
to some of these developments, the law.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Is on the developers side.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
So what we can do is the city is best
work with them, because again a little control that's worked
with them and best makative development that you know, our
residents can can be proud of.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Right, and so I know that they're broader consequence as
a result. For cities that failed to meet these Verena numbers,
what do those penalties look like and how quickly can
they add up?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
They can add up a lot.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
I mean, there are some cities that pushed back. But again,
when we talk about not meeting a Reena numbers, there's
a could result. And if you know we we we
as a city went through a house and elements, so
we're done, we checked the box off and that's a
lot of stuffs THREENA.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Some cities are still working on it.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
But if cities aren't getting on board with this, they
could and if their house and element isn't certified by
the state, they could lose control over the local Zombi decisions.
So that's a big one. They can lose state funding.
There are a lot of grants out there that would
make a city inteligible for and also some cities there's

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there's financial risks that they could face.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Core orders and Daily finds that.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Tiundred thousand dollars if they're not moving there, they're numberst
out road.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
So it's really important.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
And again there's a lot of wish fact is a
very controversial issue back in the day, so and there's
still some people upset about the arena numbers.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
But again we're in California. Unfortunately people want to live here.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
But I think, you know, it's a at box one
on one terms of you know, plying demand, and unless
you start weed more out there, the costs are just going.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
To keep going up.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
And you know, I was at at this BIA event
a couple of weeks ago and they're just they're not
going The houses are just not bulling. So it doesn't
I sat there like that doesn't make sense. They're billing
about people and buys because they're just so they're.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
They're they're unattainably financially unattainable.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
But it sounds like rancha Umanga in their general plan,
like you said, that goes back to the eighties and
you know, planned for having affordable housing today.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
So it sounds like rancha Umonga is not really struggling
to meet those RINA numbers.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Oh wait, we just updated our general plan back in
two thousand and twenty Kushana twenty one already and so
part of our general plan, which we're.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Really proud of is that it was a public process.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
We really wanted the input of the community, and so
we did a lot of pomp ups. Unfortunately, COVID happened
at that time, so we did a lot of virtual meetings.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
And really said, hey, what is the future of our
community look like? And it has to incorporate housing. This
is what we need to do.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
So we identified where it should go, where it should go,
and there are types of housing people want to see.
We see more folks that don't want a vidyard. You know,
brout of the day is glocking, lots of ards. Some
people still want that, and you see that north of
the city, but some people just rather have town homes.
And there's different kinds of types of housing that people

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products that people want to see, and so we've kind
of incorporated that in our our general time which we've
been waiting to Ward sports are really great, if you
have to say great, but in terms of general plans.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
It can be born and read.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
But this one is a really interesting and read and
that really shows what the future of usity it will
look like.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Incorporate those those numbers, and that's something that really stands
out to me as a former planning commissioner for the
City of Rancho.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
How well it's planned out, how beautifully it's planned out,
and now everything's been executed.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
You know, the proximity to schools.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Parks, industrial, retail, residential, everything is balanced so beautifully here
in the city.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yes, and yes it has and I we don't take
the credit for it. We'll always there are our forefathers
that you know, we're here before signalize I mentioned earlier,
will be celebrated the fifty anniversary any year and a half,
and so that really they said, they said, you know,
detone for.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
That, and we really look at what they did.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
But you also see some areas that clearly when the
city was incorporated it was county area. So we're still
putting sidewalks in and doing things. We see parts of
the city where we could stump up our game a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And so the.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Future developments, we want connectivity, we want trails.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
This is what the community wants.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
And one of the things I thought was interesting too
is that the communities caated communities and they don't want
cloth steps, they want they want trills and connections, and
so really trying to put that when we do future development.
So when we do have opportunities where people are presenting
auduce to us.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
We really take a look at that.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
General find and say, well, this is what the community wants,
not what we want.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Is what the.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Community wants and making sure it's a community that may
be product and so doubt there another fifty years people
say this is a really well planned out community. And
there are some things that we see on the Cell
side that maybe we don't have much or I mean
we still don't have the groceries here on the Cell side.
We've been trying for for many, many, many years. So
there are certain things I highly balance out. Everyone wants
to be able in retrait runs. They all want the

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restaurants there, but there's also a west end to the city,
so how are we going to get more retail?

Speaker 3 (38:43):
How do they get more foods?

Speaker 4 (38:44):
And we're starting to see it up and there's you know,
new developments coming up town right.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
So as a counsel woman and having to balance all
of these issues housing, environment and homelessness our top priorities.
How do cities balance and address these interconnected issues.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's difficult.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
I mean, if it comes down to budgets a lot
of times in and what are the top parties.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean for us, we're always.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Looking at public safety, We're always looking at you know, homelessness,
which we do see that as a as a as
a as a key issue.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
It is a real huge issue. Uh.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
We're I honestly fortunate, but we are a little bit
different where we do almost count every years slower account
maybe lower than some of the market inn cities, but
there's still there's there's still still here.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
So how do we work together? How do we find
that you know, uh solution?

Speaker 4 (39:33):
And it's it's hard because it's not you know, all
force goes back to Unfortunately, some of our senior community
are becoming more homeless because of the the affordability of
the housing as we mentioned, but there's also other issues
that bring some folks to homelessness, which include the mental
health issue as well as drug issue. So who would
do how do we worked that you know on that?

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So we've stepped up our game with our officers. We
have a team dedicated just from that. We have I
don't know if you saw we have a new team
out there, our post team that helps people with mental issues,
that glue the dog with fire police all coming together
to help but also working with the county and working
with ours neighboring cities. And I think these are topics
that we discussed with the League of Cities because if
one city is having an.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Issue, we probably are revealing the same thing.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
And so like working with the county on the new
homeless facility that hopefully should be opening that they're gonna
start opening up, and LB based in Fontana, but being
a partner in that in terms of we can have
a resource that we can't send folks that need help
over there when it's open or ready.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, that's the beauty of the inline empire that I've
observed during my time, you know, speaking to leaders like
yourself is the collaboration, the innovation and the approaches that
are taken that really create models for.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Others to glean from.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
What are some of these approaches that you feel are
the most innovative and make you.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
The most proud of as being a council member.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Well, just you know, I think one of the things
I am proud of being specific that I couldn't be
here for more than an hour talking about it, but
you know, I think what it's nice is when back
in the day, you know inl and that Parky don't
think that Riversad County and See County people can talk
to one another.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
It's like an imaginary dot line. And I think we've
blended that line, and you know, we're all here.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Fighting for local control. We saw the success of the airport,
all working together. I think that was a huge one
for us in terms of working and banding together cities
across the Inland Park region and advocating for local control.
Look what it is now, it's one of the best
importance in a nation. Master scrowing too, so we can
all be proud of that. And just working together and
finding solutions and not being at silos. I think that's

(41:41):
been really We have a great you know, and we
work with community partners, working with our shriffs department. I
mean just being able to have a development in conversation
and being able to call the share it a ay
or what's going on and being able to call, you know,
the neighboring city and saying, hey, I have have you know,
what are you doing with this?

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Or did they call you about this? And just working.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Together and collaborate. And I really feel like the cal
cuities and all that party division has been a play
the good walls for our city. We've been very engaged
in very active and working together with other cities and
talking about what are some of the issues. And it's
again it's having that one united voice that spent hey
to them right.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
And in previous conversations you described a committee's structure within
Heal Cities and how it supports policy.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
You share a little bit about what that structure looks like.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Sure, so each division has, well, the cal cities as
a whole has different committees. They're focused on different issues.
You have wh're focusing on environmental quality of policy. You
have one on transportation, public safety, and UH taxes, just
different issues that are key issues. And so each division

(42:47):
is to a point you have to apply. If you're
a council member or staff or city, you apply and
want to be on one of these committees. And I
have had the hard job of having a sale you
get to be on that committee because then every one,
of course, everyone wants to be on the popular committees,
which are usually transportation or public works or public safety,
and only certain people can call that certain amounts. So
I have the hard job same, Well, you can be

(43:08):
on that one, but I really need you on this one.
And basically it's having a voice not for their cities,
not for themselves personally, but a voice for the division
on that board. So they meet the policy committees me
about three times a year, twice in person, one virtual,
and we talk about some issues that are impacting and
this is not just the Southern California issue.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
This is a statewide issue. So we meet with council.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Members from northern and a southern and then I won't lie,
sometimes get very heated because sometimes we get donated by
the Northern electeds and so, and they have different ideas
for policy.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Than we do.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
We just kind of have to find the middle ground
if we can. And a lot of times, you know,
we'll have legislators come to us and say, hey, can
Ney our committee support our bill or not, And so
we've kind of pushed back that I happen to be
on the Transportation committee and so working together with different
council members that serve on this committee has been interesting
because what their top needs are in Northern Californa and

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they want more access.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
To to you know, by going on that, you know,
the metro leagues up there where we don't really.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Have we have a little bit different issues where we have,
you know, congestion and we have the trucks coming in,
so a lot of times their issues are not the same.
But I think some of the things that we do
see the same. We saw it was with public safety.
We were able to come for very problem six and
so but it's been very interesting. In fact, I have
the task of right now I have applicants who applied

(44:32):
for a committee, so I get to get to decide
what we have. The committee is coming in January. So
but it's been a good tool and good resource and
it's a good opportunity for some electives who may not
be involved.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Is a good way to be involved. It's a great
way to be involved.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
So talk about how recent policy changes uniquely impacted the
Inland Empire compared to other regions. Well, you know, again,
I think the biggest one is, of course, it's always
a big the warehouse issue home and it was a
little frustrating that one the way things were.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Done, but I think we were able to find as
best the middle ground there.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
And I think that one was interesting because that brought
people from all sorts of different backgrounds. You had the
naops of the World City Council of Cities, all coming
and looking together on that one, and then of course
the housing issues. We're going to watch out for some
of the bills of the doctors and then you know,
watching that way to see what he signed is they
could impact the region, and then we'll have to see

(45:30):
what gets be out, what doesn't get beat old, and
what could sign and deal with the consequences if they
have some One of the biggest things I think at
least you see too is unfunded navits, which really hurt
our cities hard.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
And the biggest one that I can use an.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Example is SB thirteen eighty three, which was the organic.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Waste that cooking the play because now you have.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
That other trash cannot around the composts and all that.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
But someone's going to pay for that.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
So we're always watching on some of these bills that
may sound good onaper.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
But what are going to be the cost, especially their
unfanded made mandate.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I don't know how many times I've heard my mayor
on the Diocene haven't explain to people, hey.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Look this is not as this is again another.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Unfunded mandates asso seeing how that can invent our cities.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
So with that said, what are some of the ways
the community can actively support your work and the mission
of cal Cities in the Inland Empire and throughout Calboy.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I think it's a couple of things. I think it's
just be engaged.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
I know we try to get the word out and
try to you know, I think us counsel try to
reach out as as we can. So I say, if
we come to you and need letters of support or opposition,
or needs you to call your state legislator, please help us,
because I think sometimes it comes best from For example,
we had one of our senators was helping us with

(46:49):
an issue against cal Trans who were trying to put
out varias and walk our freeways because unfortunately it has
a distance where people taking their lives for that and
trying to be proactive and trying to get count Trans
to do something so that we can prevent that. And
we went up and testified and we had the opportunity
to bring one of the victim's sisters came with us
and was able to speak. And I'll tell you that

(47:11):
testimony was really impactful and it helped, it helped move it,
and you had legislators with tears in their eyes just
hearing firsthand. And I couldn't have delivered that she you know,
it came from the heart, came from her, So it
just helps make an impact.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
So is that part of the insights you gained from
your recent visit to Sacramento or are there additional ones
regarding legislative advocacity.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
You know, I think one of the things that we
try to do. It's it's different with Sacramento. When you
go up there, I can get frustrating. You kind of see,
you know, you want to be supportive of your local representatives.
You want to be able to work together, and we
have other city. We have great partnerships with all of
our local as well as our federal leaders that represent
our town.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Unfortunately, with the last redistricting, we're kind of like La
and all Is. We got we got a lot covering.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Our city, but just making sure that we have an
open conversation with them. So we've had some good, good relationship,
good feedback and support from them.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
But I think also, you know, it's just it's it's just.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Making sure that people are paying attention what's going on
and just and just being engaged. Really, it's it's it's
one of those being engaged and always working with them.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I'm working across file.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
That's that's a key, right working across the aisle, finding
that common ground with that, staid Christine, what are some
of the things we can expect to see in Red
Choke with.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
One of the future Oh, I think, well, can you
not expect to see?

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Well, like I said, we are in the process of
still working with Brightline.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
That's going to be huge.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
For us and transportation wise, I think you're going to
have the tunnel that's also going from Ontario from the
metrowage station to Ontario Work, which is going to be
huge because just from that area and be able to
go anywhere in the world to help on the Metrolink
and go to LA Can hop to the Ontario Airport, or.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
You can go to Vegas.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
So that's going to be huge for us in terms
of ecnotic opportunities. We're working hard because we want people
to be able to work and live here in Mancho.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
We hear all the time with people commeeting at LA
in Marcher.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
County, So we're doing what we can to try to
attract more of those fortune five hundred companies of folks
that you know are going to provide those jobs that
people can live and work here. That's been a key
for the council. Like I said, we have our fiftieth
birthday coming up, so lots of surprise it's here, a
lot of economic opportunities. We just last year approved a

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master plan for the Epics Center where the quakes.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Are, so we're looking to expand that area.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
That way, when you go there, you can make an
evening or a day event where there's there's restaurants and
stuff there, entertainment.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Trying to think clearly, you see a.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Lot more developments popping up, a lot of mixed uses
popping up, and then a lot of restaurants are coming
to town, which is great and it's not I think
it's a demonstration to Rancho as well a an empire
that there's an appetite. No pun intendant for now say hiring,
but for places to eat like Fogo Chows opening up

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in a couple of weeks Season fifty two, which I'm
excited about, which is based in Coast Mesa's healths Plaza.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
They're opening up a little bit. So we just had
our first.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Rooftop bar restaurant, Durgo's Dark Height Hotel, and there's more
being planned on the other side of the town. So
there's just endless possibilities happening.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
In Rancho that is so exciting. And so, if that said,
what are you most focused on as.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
You continue to advocate for the city of Ranch Cugamba.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
And serve as president of Coal Cities in an Empire division.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Well as my termins.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
I want to make sure that the cal citi's president.
I want to make sure that it's still stays in
good hands.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
And that's some moments we have.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Participation, if people get engaged and involved from that level,
and then from a council point of view, I just
want to make sure that presidents know of our lay
is going on that they're engaged in. I'm working with
my colleagues to make sure this is the world class
community that people love and want to live in and
you know, people can live work later.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Absolutely, and I can attest that I love Branch of Umonga.
So thank you so much for your time here, Christine,
and your expertise and your constant advocacy and you know,
your effective advocacy.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Thank you, Thank you all right for everybody listening. Don't
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