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Welcome to Spacing Out With BB and Jason! We’re covering the 2004 reboot of Battlestar Galactica, and this week we’re discussing season 4 episode 17, “Someone To Watch Over Me”. Thanks for joining us!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week
covering Battlestar Galactica Season four, episode seventeen, Someone to Watch
Over Me.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Bebe and I'm Jason, and this is Spacing Out
for today. We will be discussing Battlestar Galactica. If you
are new to the show, welcome, and you should know
we're going to have a spoiler section at the end
of the podcast where we are free to discuss any
future events in the series, which otherwise we won't be
spoiling anything past this episode, which is Battlestar Galactica Season four,
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episode seventeen, Someone to Watch Over Me. This originally aired
on February twenty seventh, two thousand and nine. Written by
Bradley Thompson and David Weddle, directed by Michael Nankin. The
survivor count was thirty nine five and fifty six people,
which had not changed from last time. In this episode,
Starbucks struggles with her identity. She meets a pianist who
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reminds her of her father. It's the help of a
drawing made by Harah. She plays a melody she remembers
from her childhood, which is recognized by the final five cylons. Meanwhile,
Boomer is to be tried for treason. She tricks Chief
Tyryl into helping her escape. She then ties up Athena,
has sex with Hilo, and then kidnaps Hara and a
raptor crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
She did a lot in like the span of maybe
like forty minutes. Yeah, vibe check.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Did we like the episode overall? How does it stand
the test of time?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What did you think of the episode?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I thought it was okay. It wasn't like my favorite
episode of all time. It's not what I'm like going
to talk about to my friends about when I talk
about Battle Star Galactica to all my friends love talking
about it with me. It's not you know what I
lead with.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You don't start with the piano episode.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I thought it was like a good like structure, like
pacing together the pieces and moving the plot forward and
kind of showing that Boomer is not to be trusted
and all that. So I thought that was like good,
like a lot and meet to chew on. But I've
seen better episodes.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I thought it was a pretty decent episode. It starts
kind of calm and slow. It's kind of sad actually,
like kind of depression going on, but then it builds
up and it gets kind of crazy there at the end.
So yeah, I liked it. I was thinking, I don't
know why I was thinking this at the very beginning,
and like, what if somebody had like watched the first
episode of the show and then started watching this one,
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Like how different is it? Just because like they're in
the briefing room and there's like cylons in there, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Trivia trivia time, what bacs could we uncover for Someone
to Watch Over Me?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The title someone to Watch Over Me might be a
reference to the nineteen eighty seven Ridley Scott thriller of
the same name, or it could be a reference to
the song in the musical Okay, Or it could be
a reference to the name of a Star Trek Voyager
episode We'll Never Know.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm guessing it's the last one, the Little Star Trek
in Your Battle Star.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They're always cross pollinating. Series composer bar McCreary is usually
only involved in the post production aspect of the show. However,
for this episode, he was brought into the writing process
and he was on set in Vancouver as I shot
the episode. Last week we mentioned that he had a
cameo in the bar scene. That's why he was there.
He was working on this episode. The director had him
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auditioned for the role of the piano player, but they
ultimately they cast someone else that role.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Make an actor, Yeah, I think, I.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Think he has his skill set. But he gave it
a shot. But Bear was often playing the piano for
the scenes when the actor is not shown, allowing the
actors to react to the actual music. And although the
final music is overlaid and post production, Bear McCurry sampled
every note of the piano on set to create a
virtual version of that exact piano, which is what he
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used when recording the score. What a nerd, right, So
you are hearing that actual piano instead.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Of like some sound stage piano.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, and then we get to do a section of
trivia called okay boomer.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Okay boomer. Let's look at any connection to the original
Battlestar Galactica series.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
A riff of music that Starbuck recognizes as a classical
piece is actually the opening fanfare to the original Battlestar
Galactica theme. What fanfair fanfare? It's usually like trumpets in.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
My head it's like a crowd of people going no.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's usually like a like an announcement thing.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Like okay, okay, okay, okay, giving medieval introduction.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The brand of Toron toothpaste that's offered as a rise
to the pilot to the pilots is called Felgercarb, which
is a word using the original series to mean shit,
and it's Touron toothpaste. So the word tourn comes from
toaurus the bowl. So an essence, Starbuck is offering the
pilot who finds a new planet bullshit toothpaste. That was
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a long walk for that joke, but I like it.
Now we move into the episode.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Deep Space Dive. Let's break down some of our thoughts
on the episode. You can share your thoughts with us
through email or social media. We may use your comments
on an upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well we start off, it's business as usual. Every day
is the same.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, it seems like we're on a mundane train to nowhere.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You get up, you put on your pants, you go
to work, give the same bullshit routine. You go back
and you shower by yourself. Somehow, you know, ship full
of people that shower all to herself. I found that
very hard to believe. And I also found it very
hard to believe that there was enough water pressure and
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hot water to give her the luxury of just standing
under the shower and not like hurry up, wash your hair,
get your shit together and go, you know, because that's
what usually like, if there's fucking power outages in the ship.
You can't tell me that there's fucking boilers like working
non stop to give them warm showers.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, they do show that the pressure like drops out.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, well barely, like after fucking forty minutes. Bitch, Yeah,
you're gonna have some fucking problem with the water pressure
some reason there's.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
No hot water anymore. Weird.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
She's dumping out like hundreds of gallons of water in
that one shower scene, Jesus. And then they show her tattoos,
and some of those tattoos are terrible, Like, God, why
would you get like this big block pyramid thing. You
could have had like an intricate, beautiful tattoo, But they
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they're like prison style tattoos, which tells me that that's
probably what they're getting there. They're probably like you know, pinch,
pinch and poke or whatever what it called. Those tattoos
that you do with a needle and a fucking ink, Well,
like you did in middle school.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I didn't do that in middle school.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Okay, well whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, someone's doing tattoos there because Starbucking Andrews got
those matching wing things.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Those wing tattoos were nice compared to the one on
her back, though I wish they would have really tatted
her up, because it's probably one of the last times
we're gonna see her like in this nude naked position.
Like it would have been awesome to just have like
fucking like, you know, like one of those jet things
that they fly those spaceships, just like a full back
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piece of that and like, I don't know, some Greek
symbols or something to symbolize her religion. But then like
she starts having flashbacks of her finding herself as a
skeleton with a wig on.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
She's being haunted by that.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I would be too, Honestly, how does your whole
body and your skin and your clothes burn off of you?
But your hair's fine. You still have your beautiful blonde
hair and your dog tags. So Starbucks struggling with her identity,
and I thought it was weird that she like warmed
up to this piano guy so quickly, but then like
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at the end, it looked like he wasn't even there
the whole time, like he was a figment of her imagination.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, so that was the deal. He's basically her father.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh okay, so when you said it reminded her of
her dad, it was by proxy her dad.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, but she was on that journey. I was looking
up Katie Sakoff's tattoos. It looks like that might have
been the cover up. She has like a blocky cross
on the background.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That's even worse. Girl, Oh that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It looks like they just added on to it to
make it this weird pyramid thing.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh my god, girl, you did get a like janky tattoo.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I was wondering about that because it seems odd that
they would add a tattoo like that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, that was clearly a Christian symbol that she had
tattooed on her body, and there's no Christianity, so they're like,
how do we explain that a pyramid? That was funny? Okay,
that makes me feel less crappy about it. But it
would have been cooler if they gave her a bunch
of crappy tattoos, just a shit ton of them. But yeah,
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I thought it was interesting that she was like musical
at one point.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, and we I believe we knew that her father
was a composer before. My memory gets jumbled as I
jumped back and forth through time working on this podcast.
But I think we knew that about our father because
she has like some of her father's tapes in her
apartment or something like that. Yeah. I don't think we
knew much about her father before this.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I mean we saw her mom and she was a mess. Yeah,
so now it makes sense that there was a deadbeat
dad to go along with that fucking hot mess of
a mom.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And she got real mad at him when he was
like telling her that his wife was like wanting him
to get a real job, And I'm like, damn, I mean,
I would want you to get a real job too,
if you weren't paying bills and shit. But it sounds
like he was getting steady gigs. Maybe she didn't like
the hours he kept. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, I feel like these piano gigs are probably in
the evenings.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, it's hard to spend time with the family if
you're sleeping all day leaving at night. But I don't know.
I feel like, if it's something you're passionate about, your
partner shouldn't be like a bitch about it. And I
feel like Starbucks Mom was probably a bitch about it.
Like I understand, there should be some balance and there
should be like food on the table, but you can't
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tell him never to do it again, you know. But
it's his choice too, I guess, like if he wants
to like have that balance of like doing it on
the weekends and then having a nine to five during
the week or something. Yeah, I wish we got more
into like some like sort of explanation about him, but
it seemed like we only got her version of him.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, there's the anger she had towards him for leaving
and vanishing from her life. They're composing a song together
and then at some point Starbuck realizes that this drawing
that Hara gave her that she pulls.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Out of her pocket. I was like, I don't know, personally,
if a little kid gives me a drawing, a little
kid that I know, and like, I'm not gonna like
mess it up by folding it. I'm gonna like take
care of it and put it on my fridge. That way,
when the kid comes to my house or whatever, they'll
be like, oh, I'm on you, I'm on the fridge.
Fuck yeah. But this bitch put she like grabs the
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paper and basically slams it shut and folds it up
and sticks it in her pocket, all crumbled up.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, Starbucks doesn't have a fridge. She lives in a bunk.
She complained, it's in the messhole.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's fair, Okay, at least she kept it. She could
have just like tossed it in the fucking hallway like
every other piece of trash I do.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Like in that scene when she gets set from Harah,
it's like Kilo called her over to give back all
her stuff because he has worked on like buying back
all of her things that were auctioned off when they
thought she was dead.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Is that what happens to your things in that universe?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah? I mean they got to do something with it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Who gets the money his widow or her widow.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Oger's got all the money from that. He could have helped,
but he was returning a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It seems like he worked really hard and probably spent
some money to get this back and she only takes
one thing. What all was in there, I don't know
all just her stuff. She wasn't a lot of stuff.
But all she wanted was the tape of her father's.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And it was a tape like an old school cassette tape. Right,
it wasn't a DVD or a CD.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's hard to tell what it was like an eight.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Track something like that, but they played it on the
at the end when when she had it with when
she was hanging out with Onders, it was like on
a boom box. So I'm pretty sure it was like
a cassette. So there's cassettes in the sport.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But yeah, So Harah's drawing turned out to be musical
notes that match up with the song.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I thought it was going to be like a picture
of the opera house or something like representing the opera house.
And then when she was counting the little dots, I
thought she was counting like thirteen or something. I'm like
she could count far, but I was surprised that it
was music notes.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yep, and Ty is very concerned about this.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Where did you hear this?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You want to talk about Chief and how he got duped.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, they flashed back to him being all googly eyed
with fucking Boomer, and then they flashed for where they're
they're like discussing her release two our being like transferred
to the Cylons who are going to try her for
treason and potentially there's like a death penalty. And she's like,
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you're gonna kill her, And I'm like, you're imprisoning her,
You're killing her slowly, what are you doing? You think
this is healthy what you're doing to her? Compared to that, he.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Just wants to keep her locked in the cage where
we can come stare at her.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, an astro project with her, whatever they're doing. But
he's like super upset because he still has a lot
of feelings for Boomer.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, and Andy's single now, so he's like, I want
to keep my options open.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, And so goes and visits her, and she uses
her feminine wiles to lure him into this sense of
security and hero ship where he's like gonna rescue her.
I don't know like what he does. I don't know
where he got like the dead Boomer or the like
other body that was unclear.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Were you not watching?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
No, I wasn't where did he get the other body?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
He went into the morgue, No, into where they were
like doing all the work on the ship, and he
did something to make the lights go out. No, I
saw that, and he picked up a wrench and hits on.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh, he murdered somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't know she's murdered, but she's unconscious at least.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh. I saw her banged up. But I thought she
was dead for sure. I thought he murdered somebody where
he found a dead Sharet in somewhere. So he's causing
all these outages.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh, what a mess. He's a mess of a man.
And then he lets her go and instead of being
with her and being like, oh baby, I missed you
so much. Let's make out and do it right here, like,
he lets her go somewhere. He's she's probably like, I
got to use the restroom. There's something stupid, And she
runs off and she finds Sharon or Athena and beats
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the shit out of her and then ties her up
and puts her in the bathroom. And then Helo comes
in thinking that she's Athena, and he smells her and
he's like, you smell different. I'm horny and he's like,
I have twenty minutes. You want to do something about it.
And at first she's like really hesitant, like she's not
into it, but then she's like, I'm not fuck her
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husband in front of her, And that makes her extra
evil in my eyes. Yeah, Like if she could have
just been like, no, you know I got a tommy
ache where I have my monthly cycle or I just
don't feel it and.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Just like piling on more trauma for Athena.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, Athena's like pissed, and I don't know why she
didn't kick or scream or say something. I know you're
tied up, but you're like, you're not dead.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Girl. Seemed like she was still not very conscious.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, but she was conscious enough to see them.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Fucky very out of focus.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, we didn't see too much, but it was a lot.
They were on the bathroom floor. That's so nasty. Either
she's gonna get athletes foot on her butthole, she just
gotta it's gotta get she's gonna be itchy all down
her back. It's so nasty because there's it's a co
ed bathroom. You don't think there's fucking athlete's foot on
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that ground. Helo's gonna get Jocket and then she runs
to go get after she fucks he Low. She puts
on her low flight suit and she goes and she
runs and picks up a hairra the baby girl from daycare,
and she's like, we forgot she had a physical And
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I feel like there should be more than just like
grabbing the baby and going. There should be like some
sort of signature or check out process procedure that they
should be following considering all the sharings that they have
on board.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, they're their policies seem these relaxed mind now that
there's a bunch of identical people walking around.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, I feel like there should be some sort of
policy or procedure to be like, you know the password,
Oh you don't know the password, you can't pick up
the kid, We'll wait for the other parent something. And
so she apparently stuffs the baby girl in one of
those cases where they put their food, and she's like
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trying to haul it onto this ship and here comes
Gee finally, and he's like, hey, girlfriend, let me help
you with that. I'm a big strong man. He like
literally puts that baby girl in the fucking ship without
any fucking clue that fuck.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
She's like, he's like, dang, how much clothes did you pack?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Right, what's in your rocks? No, it's a girl. It's
a little girl. And she's like, come with me, and
he's like no, I can't. And I feel like she
knew you would never come with her. Yeah, like that
was part of the plant. They planned it so well.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, well she's playing him this whole time. Yeah, he
showed him this whole fantasy of their future together.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
With way too many flowers for one home, Like that
home was not that big for them to have three
different vases with flowers.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, maybe she's a florist in this future.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
A florists wouldn't take home that many flowers. They got
to sell them. She's like, that's just a lot of flowers.
They had sunflowers, tulips, and I think some kind of rose,
maybe a carnation.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Photos of them together with flowers.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It was just like the budget had a big They
had a big budget for flowers in that fucking scene.
I was just like, what is going on? I guess
that's like a sign of like being on Earth or
being somewhere where there's like dirt and shit because there's
no flowers on spaceships.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They're like, we get to shoot a scene outside of
the ship, so the flowers everywhere.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I'm surprised there wasn't like just a fruit bowl somewhere.
But yeah, she she's like found out, like fucking Athena
like stumbles in her underwear into like one of the
most like secure rooms and she's like she took care
of and he goes like, oh my god, what what
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I mean? He didn't know? He didn't know. I feel
like that's a pass. Like I feel hurt, but I
wouldn't blame you, you know, because you're just a stupid
horny man. But you should have known. That's not my scent, right.
Something was off, And so at the Boomer is in
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the spaceship ready to go, and they're like, hold on,
we got to check for air traffic. And they're like,
she's not buying it because they figured it out right,
and she's like, no, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. And she's
like starting to apparently get her ship ready to jump,
and somebody says she can't jump near the ship's kind
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of tear us apart, and she does it, and hot
Dog was there and He's like, don't do it, man,
don't do it. And we saw a lot of hot
Dog in this. He was also one of the guards,
like he had a duty on watching Share or watching
Boomer and he was looking at Big Jugs.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Was that him that looked like him? I thought, like
later they showed another guy, it kind of looked like him.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I mean, I'm sure there's like different patrol duties you
can double check, but I want to pretend it was
hot Dog looking at Porno instead of watching the.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Just seems random that one of their main pilots would
be on, Oh you're right, you're right at that meeting
where they're all flying patrols.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, you're right. And then she rips the ship apart
like she like, it's like an automobile crash, like a
fender bender.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, apparently you can't jump that close to a ship.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, I didn't know that. And then Laura Roslin I
think she was laying on the floor, Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Laura, Yeah, apparently that shook up the whole ship because
everywhere we saw it was just like shake, crashing down
and shaking.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And Laura Roslin warned chief that that's what Sharon does.
She emotionally manipulates and he didn't listen.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He's like, not this time, it's different.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And then he found out that Sharon or Boomer took
Hara and he's.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Like, oh, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And then he figures out that he helped her. Yeah,
like it finally dawns on him that he helped a
fucking fugitive escape.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And I mean, we didn't see much past that, but
it doesn't seem like they're like coming to arrest him
or anything.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Where are the cameras in this fucking ship, man? There
should be like a closed caption like circuit, Like there's
a camera in the fucking bridge, like the uh, the
jail cells. Why isn't there cameras in in in the
area where they're loading up ships with like machinery and shit?
Where are the camera? Like I'm like really anti surveillance
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and shit, But sometimes rolling back the footage and showing
Chief pulling that big ass suitcase full of baby like
he needs to be tried for treason too, well.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But would that look bad? Like he's doing his job,
he's getting the ship ready to take off.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He literally helped her leave.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I guess I just don't think that footage would
be enough evidence. And he had the power out of
edge when he was actually doing the body swap.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Oh, so he's in the clear. But is this conscious clear?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
No, that was a good word of play. All right,
anything else happened?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I feel like that was it. I mean, so that
scene with Roslin where she warns the chief about it,
we kind of learned that they're they're rebuilding the government
by having each ship have a represent representative in the government.
How was it before it was still by the colonies.
Oh yeah, and then so the Cylon ship also has
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a representative representative.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's cool. That means the prison ship has a people.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yep, that's cool. Prison ship is probably full of insurrections directions.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah. Even Starbuck was like, our ranks have thinned since
the mutiny, so you might not have a passenger pal
she says, enjoy the silence, and don't whack off too long.
You got to conserve oxygen. That wasn't her like prepared speech.
Don't whack off too much. I guess that's what I'd
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be doing if I was alone in a ship for
like weeks and just be like, I need a shower
after or something. Though, just like six weeks of not bathing.
No wonder, toothpaste is a high commodity.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Do you think that they're all like disprushing their teeth
with water or I feel they're making some other formula.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
They probably have algae paste, Like all you need is fluoride, right,
and they might have like fluoride and another chemical together.
Or I know that some people brush their teeth with charcoal,
so that might be a thing too, Or they might
be dry brushing, just got to get the plak off,
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which I think would suck. Nobody having fresh bread. I mean,
I hate tank you breasts and they're all living in
such tight quarters. And then when uh Boomer said she
traded for soap, I'm like, oh my god, they don't
have soap either.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
She said she traded for real soap, so they have
something that they're using something.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Where did she get real soap or do you think
it's just the way that she smells is different?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Maybe yeah, because she's let's say, have really nice soap
with the prison cell.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Or she brought it from like when she was packing
from Cavels. She was like, I better grab this soap.
I remember that ship. They have all that goop I'm
sure they can make soap out of that goop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
All right, are you ready to move on?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Astoral queen? Who was the standout character in the episode.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Who's Your Space? Cow Girl? I think I'm gonna pick
Boomer for being a bitch.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, that's rough, what I mean? Boomer? Boomer did a.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Lot, She did a lot, she did a lot. She
played that man like a fucking fiddle, and then she
left him alone in the house with all those flowers.
So I picked Boomer for being a total bitch.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Wow, well you're allowed to do that. Yeah, Now, I
remember I picked Boomer one time. I think when she
shot a dumba. I was thinking about picking Laura Roslin
serving the only one that could see all the bullsh
shit from mill Away.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I was surprised you didn't pick Starbuck for being like
an idiot savant with those coloring sheets.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
No. I mean Starbucks story was all right.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It was basic.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It was fairly obvious. I think at some point that
like this is her dad or representation of her dad.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Or I didn't get it at our efforts. It wouldn't
be honest.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It wasn't like a big talking reveal. Yes, I don't know,
but so, I mean, it's an interesting character thing, but
you picked Laura obviously ties into bigger stuff with that song.
So but yeah, I'm just going with Roslin sitting at
her desk and signing that paper and telling Chief to
shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, Cheek, get
your emotions out of here.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Get out of here, get out. You're no longer welcome
in this room. You're bullshit. I would have kept him close.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
All right. So President Roslin and Boomer, your awards are
on the way. So next episode it's called islanded, islanded, islanded.
That's a weird way to make that a verb islanded
in a Stream of Stars. Extended version, we're gonna watch
the extended cut, So if you're watching it on streaming,
(28:15):
probably don't have the extended cut, but I will go
through any differences in the episodes, and then as a reminder,
because we'reritten pretty close to the end, the way we
decided to cover the finale was we're going to watch
the way that it originally aired, which is part one
as its own episode, and then parts two and three
as a single episode. You can find an extended cut
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that is all three parts, and it's like three hours long,
but we wanted to break it up and talk about
it separately and just get one more episode out of this,
all right, So we're going to go into the spoiler section.
If you don't want to be spoiled on these remaining
three episodes, then don't continue listening. Let's put our.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Living stereo stylus.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
In this group.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Grace for impact. Spoilers ahead. If you haven't seen the
whole series, now is the time to say goodbye. Remember
you can contact us at Spacingoutpod at gmail dot com,
find us on social media, share your thoughts and be
a part of the discussion. Spoilers in five four three two.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
One spoiler section anything.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I forget what cattle does with the baby, Like, does
he even have like goldfish or anything?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Probably not. He probably just seats like unseasoned peanuts or something.
Season us for humans, I want to taste the complexities
of the raw ingredients.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Is there people who do that? I feel like there
are some like holier than thou kind of people who
are like thinking that seasoninas for low brow humans can't
appreciate the taste of food.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Your weak tongues can't appreciate the natural flavors.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Girl, get some onion powder.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh yeah, so Harrah is gonna be with Cavil and
those guys.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I wish that they would just have her crying and
screaming the whole time that they she was with them,
like a real baby, like a real baby, like just
like crying and screaming the whole time, especially after she
came out of like being drugged and put in a
little box, like crying and screaming the whole time, and
they hate her. That would be so real. That would
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be so real, I would be That would make me
have a deeper appreciation for the genre, to be like
we relate, we like we see you children, and we
understand that, like you would cry. And it would have
been awesome if Harrah started crying when Boomer picked her up.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, I feel like they showed Boomer like shoving that
water in her face and yeah, trying to get out
of that room real quick.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah. But it would have been cool if if Haarah
was like no, mommy, no, or's something like to give
off Because I feel like they're trying to paint Haah
as this special baby, and I feel like a special
baby would.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Know her mom. Well, maybe she's so special that she
sees the bigger picture and no, she needs to go
on this journey. Oh, because she is writing the notes
to a song that is going to eventually translate into
coordinates to find her.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, she's a genius. She's tapped into something. I'm ready
for them to have a real Cylon interaction too, be
like that's coming.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah. I don't remember what's going on next episode, but
the finale is all about rescuing Haarah, and that's where
the opera House comes in the play and then the
song gets them back to Earth, a new Earth two point.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Zero two point oh a better or let's not fried
by nuclear disaster? You ready to go? Where you got
another spoiler? Can't think of anything? I know? Chief gets
away with it.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, I was just trying to look at the next
episode to see anything worth mentioning.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
LA's gonna die eventually.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, oh, Anders, We're gonna look him up, put him
in the bathtub and shove some wires in him. See
what happens.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He's rebooting.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
The next episode is directed by Edward James. Almost says
that Harrah begins to whine and cry for her mother. God.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh yeah, that's that's what's going on. We probably don't
even need a spoiler section anymore now that we're here
at the end.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, probably let's go there, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, that was someone to watch over me an episode.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It gives you know what it gives. It gives that
Metallica riff where it's like, now I laying down to sleep, Breathford,
So to keep hush, little baby, don't.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Say a word.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Never mind that voice you heard, you know the song.
It's giving that. That's what I thought it was about.
That song is so good. Okay, I'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Freck Off, freck off.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
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We hope you will join us, so say we all
Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week
covering Battlestar Galactica Season four, episode seventeen, Someone to Watch
Over Me.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Bebe and I'm Jason, and this is Spacing Out
for today. We will be discussing Battlestar Galactica. If you
are new to the show, welcome, and you should know
we're going to have a spoiler section at the end
of the podcast where we are free to discuss any
future events in the series, which otherwise we won't be
spoiling anything past this episode, which is Battlestar Galactica Season four,
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episode seventeen, Someone to Watch Over Me. This originally aired
on February twenty seventh, two thousand and nine. Written by
Bradley Thompson and David Weddle, directed by Michael Nankin. The
survivor count was thirty nine five and fifty six people,
which had not changed from last time. In this episode,
Starbucks struggles with her identity. She meets a pianist who
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reminds her of her father. It's the help of a
drawing made by Harah. She plays a melody she remembers
from her childhood, which is recognized by the final five cylons. Meanwhile,
Boomer is to be tried for treason. She tricks Chief
Tyryl into helping her escape. She then ties up Athena,
has sex with Hilo, and then kidnaps Hara and a
raptor crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
She did a lot in like the span of maybe
like forty minutes. Yeah, vibe check.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Did we like the episode overall? How does it stand
the test of time?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What did you think of the episode?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I thought it was okay. It wasn't like my favorite
episode of all time. It's not what I'm like going
to talk about to my friends about when I talk
about Battle Star Galactica to all my friends love talking
about it with me. It's not you know what I
lead with.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You don't start with the piano episode.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I thought it was like a good like structure, like
pacing together the pieces and moving the plot forward and
kind of showing that Boomer is not to be trusted
and all that. So I thought that was like good,
like a lot and meet to chew on. But I've
seen better episodes.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I thought it was a pretty decent episode. It starts
kind of calm and slow. It's kind of sad actually,
like kind of depression going on, but then it builds
up and it gets kind of crazy there at the end.
So yeah, I liked it. I was thinking, I don't
know why I was thinking this at the very beginning,
and like, what if somebody had like watched the first
episode of the show and then started watching this one,
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Like how different is it? Just because like they're in
the briefing room and there's like cylons in there, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Trivia trivia time, what bacs could we uncover for Someone
to Watch Over Me?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The title someone to Watch Over Me might be a
reference to the nineteen eighty seven Ridley Scott thriller of
the same name, or it could be a reference to
the song in the musical Okay, Or it could be
a reference to the name of a Star Trek Voyager
episode We'll Never Know.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm guessing it's the last one, the Little Star Trek
in Your Battle Star.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They're always cross pollinating. Series composer bar McCreary is usually
only involved in the post production aspect of the show. However,
for this episode, he was brought into the writing process
and he was on set in Vancouver as I shot
the episode. Last week we mentioned that he had a
cameo in the bar scene. That's why he was there.
He was working on this episode. The director had him
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auditioned for the role of the piano player, but they
ultimately they cast someone else that role.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Make an actor, Yeah, I think, I.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Think he has his skill set. But he gave it
a shot. But Bear was often playing the piano for
the scenes when the actor is not shown, allowing the
actors to react to the actual music. And although the
final music is overlaid and post production, Bear McCurry sampled
every note of the piano on set to create a
virtual version of that exact piano, which is what he
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used when recording the score. What a nerd, right, So
you are hearing that actual piano instead.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Of like some sound stage piano.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, and then we get to do a section of
trivia called okay boomer.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Okay boomer. Let's look at any connection to the original
Battlestar Galactica series.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
A riff of music that Starbuck recognizes as a classical
piece is actually the opening fanfare to the original Battlestar
Galactica theme. What fanfair fanfare? It's usually like trumpets in.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
My head it's like a crowd of people going no.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's usually like a like an announcement thing.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Like okay, okay, okay, okay, giving medieval introduction.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The brand of Toron toothpaste that's offered as a rise
to the pilot to the pilots is called Felgercarb, which
is a word using the original series to mean shit,
and it's Touron toothpaste. So the word tourn comes from
toaurus the bowl. So an essence, Starbuck is offering the
pilot who finds a new planet bullshit toothpaste. That was
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a long walk for that joke, but I like it.
Now we move into the episode.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Deep Space Dive. Let's break down some of our thoughts
on the episode. You can share your thoughts with us
through email or social media. We may use your comments
on an upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well we start off, it's business as usual. Every day
is the same.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, it seems like we're on a mundane train to nowhere.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You get up, you put on your pants, you go
to work, give the same bullshit routine. You go back
and you shower by yourself. Somehow, you know, ship full
of people that shower all to herself. I found that
very hard to believe. And I also found it very
hard to believe that there was enough water pressure and
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hot water to give her the luxury of just standing
under the shower and not like hurry up, wash your hair,
get your shit together and go, you know, because that's
what usually like, if there's fucking power outages in the ship.
You can't tell me that there's fucking boilers like working
non stop to give them warm showers.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, they do show that the pressure like drops out.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, well barely, like after fucking forty minutes. Bitch, Yeah,
you're gonna have some fucking problem with the water pressure
some reason there's.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
No hot water anymore. Weird.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
She's dumping out like hundreds of gallons of water in
that one shower scene, Jesus. And then they show her tattoos,
and some of those tattoos are terrible, Like, God, why
would you get like this big block pyramid thing. You
could have had like an intricate, beautiful tattoo, But they
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they're like prison style tattoos, which tells me that that's
probably what they're getting there. They're probably like you know, pinch,
pinch and poke or whatever what it called. Those tattoos
that you do with a needle and a fucking ink, Well,
like you did in middle school.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I didn't do that in middle school.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Okay, well whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, someone's doing tattoos there because Starbucking Andrews got
those matching wing things.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Those wing tattoos were nice compared to the one on
her back, though I wish they would have really tatted
her up, because it's probably one of the last times
we're gonna see her like in this nude naked position.
Like it would have been awesome to just have like
fucking like, you know, like one of those jet things
that they fly those spaceships, just like a full back
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piece of that and like, I don't know, some Greek
symbols or something to symbolize her religion. But then like
she starts having flashbacks of her finding herself as a
skeleton with a wig on.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
She's being haunted by that.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I would be too, Honestly, how does your whole
body and your skin and your clothes burn off of you?
But your hair's fine. You still have your beautiful blonde
hair and your dog tags. So Starbucks struggling with her identity,
and I thought it was weird that she like warmed
up to this piano guy so quickly, but then like
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at the end, it looked like he wasn't even there
the whole time, like he was a figment of her imagination.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, so that was the deal. He's basically her father.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh okay, so when you said it reminded her of
her dad, it was by proxy her dad.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, but she was on that journey. I was looking
up Katie Sakoff's tattoos. It looks like that might have
been the cover up. She has like a blocky cross
on the background.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That's even worse. Girl, Oh that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It looks like they just added on to it to
make it this weird pyramid thing.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh my god, girl, you did get a like janky tattoo.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I was wondering about that because it seems odd that
they would add a tattoo like that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, that was clearly a Christian symbol that she had
tattooed on her body, and there's no Christianity, so they're like,
how do we explain that a pyramid? That was funny? Okay,
that makes me feel less crappy about it. But it
would have been cooler if they gave her a bunch
of crappy tattoos, just a shit ton of them. But yeah,
(09:42):
I thought it was interesting that she was like musical
at one point.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, and we I believe we knew that her father
was a composer before. My memory gets jumbled as I
jumped back and forth through time working on this podcast.
But I think we knew that about our father because
she has like some of her father's tapes in her
apartment or something like that. Yeah. I don't think we
knew much about her father before this.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I mean we saw her mom and she was a mess. Yeah,
so now it makes sense that there was a deadbeat
dad to go along with that fucking hot mess of
a mom.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And she got real mad at him when he was
like telling her that his wife was like wanting him
to get a real job, And I'm like, damn, I mean,
I would want you to get a real job too,
if you weren't paying bills and shit. But it sounds
like he was getting steady gigs. Maybe she didn't like
the hours he kept. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, I feel like these piano gigs are probably in
the evenings.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, it's hard to spend time with the family if
you're sleeping all day leaving at night. But I don't know.
I feel like, if it's something you're passionate about, your
partner shouldn't be like a bitch about it. And I
feel like Starbucks Mom was probably a bitch about it.
Like I understand, there should be some balance and there
should be like food on the table, but you can't
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tell him never to do it again, you know. But
it's his choice too, I guess, like if he wants
to like have that balance of like doing it on
the weekends and then having a nine to five during
the week or something. Yeah, I wish we got more
into like some like sort of explanation about him, but
it seemed like we only got her version of him.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, there's the anger she had towards him for leaving
and vanishing from her life. They're composing a song together
and then at some point Starbuck realizes that this drawing
that Hara gave her that she pulls.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Out of her pocket. I was like, I don't know, personally,
if a little kid gives me a drawing, a little
kid that I know, and like, I'm not gonna like
mess it up by folding it. I'm gonna like take
care of it and put it on my fridge. That way,
when the kid comes to my house or whatever, they'll
be like, oh, I'm on you, I'm on the fridge.
Fuck yeah. But this bitch put she like grabs the
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paper and basically slams it shut and folds it up
and sticks it in her pocket, all crumbled up.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, Starbucks doesn't have a fridge. She lives in a bunk.
She complained, it's in the messhole.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's fair, Okay, at least she kept it. She could
have just like tossed it in the fucking hallway like
every other piece of trash I do.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Like in that scene when she gets set from Harah,
it's like Kilo called her over to give back all
her stuff because he has worked on like buying back
all of her things that were auctioned off when they
thought she was dead.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Is that what happens to your things in that universe?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah? I mean they got to do something with it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Who gets the money his widow or her widow.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Oger's got all the money from that. He could have helped,
but he was returning a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It seems like he worked really hard and probably spent
some money to get this back and she only takes
one thing. What all was in there, I don't know
all just her stuff. She wasn't a lot of stuff.
But all she wanted was the tape of her father's.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And it was a tape like an old school cassette tape. Right,
it wasn't a DVD or a CD.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's hard to tell what it was like an eight.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Track something like that, but they played it on the
at the end when when she had it with when
she was hanging out with Onders, it was like on
a boom box. So I'm pretty sure it was like
a cassette. So there's cassettes in the sport.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But yeah, So Harah's drawing turned out to be musical
notes that match up with the song.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I thought it was going to be like a picture
of the opera house or something like representing the opera house.
And then when she was counting the little dots, I
thought she was counting like thirteen or something. I'm like
she could count far, but I was surprised that it
was music notes.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yep, and Ty is very concerned about this.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Where did you hear this?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You want to talk about Chief and how he got duped.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, they flashed back to him being all googly eyed
with fucking Boomer, and then they flashed for where they're
they're like discussing her release two our being like transferred
to the Cylons who are going to try her for
treason and potentially there's like a death penalty. And she's like,
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you're gonna kill her, And I'm like, you're imprisoning her,
You're killing her slowly, what are you doing? You think
this is healthy what you're doing to her? Compared to that, he.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Just wants to keep her locked in the cage where
we can come stare at her.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, an astro project with her, whatever they're doing. But
he's like super upset because he still has a lot
of feelings for Boomer.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, and Andy's single now, so he's like, I want
to keep my options open.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, And so goes and visits her, and she uses
her feminine wiles to lure him into this sense of
security and hero ship where he's like gonna rescue her.
I don't know like what he does. I don't know
where he got like the dead Boomer or the like
other body that was unclear.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Were you not watching?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
No, I wasn't where did he get the other body?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
He went into the morgue, No, into where they were
like doing all the work on the ship, and he
did something to make the lights go out. No, I
saw that, and he picked up a wrench and hits on.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh, he murdered somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't know she's murdered, but she's unconscious at least.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh. I saw her banged up. But I thought she
was dead for sure. I thought he murdered somebody where
he found a dead Sharet in somewhere. So he's causing
all these outages.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh, what a mess. He's a mess of a man.
And then he lets her go and instead of being
with her and being like, oh baby, I missed you
so much. Let's make out and do it right here, like,
he lets her go somewhere. He's she's probably like, I
got to use the restroom. There's something stupid, And she
runs off and she finds Sharon or Athena and beats
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the shit out of her and then ties her up
and puts her in the bathroom. And then Helo comes
in thinking that she's Athena, and he smells her and
he's like, you smell different. I'm horny and he's like,
I have twenty minutes. You want to do something about it.
And at first she's like really hesitant, like she's not
into it, but then she's like, I'm not fuck her
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husband in front of her, And that makes her extra
evil in my eyes. Yeah, Like if she could have
just been like, no, you know I got a tommy
ache where I have my monthly cycle or I just
don't feel it and.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Just like piling on more trauma for Athena.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, Athena's like pissed, and I don't know why she
didn't kick or scream or say something. I know you're
tied up, but you're like, you're not dead.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Girl. Seemed like she was still not very conscious.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, but she was conscious enough to see them.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Fucky very out of focus.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, we didn't see too much, but it was a lot.
They were on the bathroom floor. That's so nasty. Either
she's gonna get athletes foot on her butthole, she just
gotta it's gotta get she's gonna be itchy all down
her back. It's so nasty because there's it's a co
ed bathroom. You don't think there's fucking athlete's foot on
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that ground. Helo's gonna get Jocket and then she runs
to go get after she fucks he Low. She puts
on her low flight suit and she goes and she
runs and picks up a hairra the baby girl from daycare,
and she's like, we forgot she had a physical And
(17:43):
I feel like there should be more than just like
grabbing the baby and going. There should be like some
sort of signature or check out process procedure that they
should be following considering all the sharings that they have
on board.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, they're their policies seem these relaxed mind now that
there's a bunch of identical people walking around.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, I feel like there should be some sort of
policy or procedure to be like, you know the password,
Oh you don't know the password, you can't pick up
the kid, We'll wait for the other parent something. And
so she apparently stuffs the baby girl in one of
those cases where they put their food, and she's like
(18:24):
trying to haul it onto this ship and here comes
Gee finally, and he's like, hey, girlfriend, let me help
you with that. I'm a big strong man. He like
literally puts that baby girl in the fucking ship without
any fucking clue that fuck.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
She's like, he's like, dang, how much clothes did you pack?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Right, what's in your rocks? No, it's a girl. It's
a little girl. And she's like, come with me, and
he's like no, I can't. And I feel like she
knew you would never come with her. Yeah, like that
was part of the plant. They planned it so well.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, well she's playing him this whole time. Yeah, he
showed him this whole fantasy of their future together.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
With way too many flowers for one home, Like that
home was not that big for them to have three
different vases with flowers.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, maybe she's a florist in this future.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
A florists wouldn't take home that many flowers. They got
to sell them. She's like, that's just a lot of flowers.
They had sunflowers, tulips, and I think some kind of rose,
maybe a carnation.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Photos of them together with flowers.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It was just like the budget had a big They
had a big budget for flowers in that fucking scene.
I was just like, what is going on? I guess
that's like a sign of like being on Earth or
being somewhere where there's like dirt and shit because there's
no flowers on spaceships.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They're like, we get to shoot a scene outside of
the ship, so the flowers everywhere.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I'm surprised there wasn't like just a fruit bowl somewhere.
But yeah, she she's like found out, like fucking Athena
like stumbles in her underwear into like one of the
most like secure rooms and she's like she took care
of and he goes like, oh my god, what what
(20:29):
I mean? He didn't know? He didn't know. I feel
like that's a pass. Like I feel hurt, but I
wouldn't blame you, you know, because you're just a stupid
horny man. But you should have known. That's not my scent, right.
Something was off, And so at the Boomer is in
(20:52):
the spaceship ready to go, and they're like, hold on,
we got to check for air traffic. And they're like,
she's not buying it because they figured it out right,
and she's like, no, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. And she's
like starting to apparently get her ship ready to jump,
and somebody says she can't jump near the ship's kind
(21:12):
of tear us apart, and she does it, and hot
Dog was there and He's like, don't do it, man,
don't do it. And we saw a lot of hot
Dog in this. He was also one of the guards,
like he had a duty on watching Share or watching
Boomer and he was looking at Big Jugs.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Was that him that looked like him? I thought, like
later they showed another guy, it kind of looked like him.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I mean, I'm sure there's like different patrol duties you
can double check, but I want to pretend it was
hot Dog looking at Porno instead of watching the.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Just seems random that one of their main pilots would
be on, Oh you're right, you're right at that meeting
where they're all flying patrols.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, you're right. And then she rips the ship apart
like she like, it's like an automobile crash, like a
fender bender.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, apparently you can't jump that close to a ship.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, I didn't know that. And then Laura Roslin I
think she was laying on the floor, Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Laura, Yeah, apparently that shook up the whole ship because
everywhere we saw it was just like shake, crashing down
and shaking.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And Laura Roslin warned chief that that's what Sharon does.
She emotionally manipulates and he didn't listen.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He's like, not this time, it's different.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And then he found out that Sharon or Boomer took
Hara and he's.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Like, oh, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And then he figures out that he helped her. Yeah,
like it finally dawns on him that he helped a
fucking fugitive escape.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And I mean, we didn't see much past that, but
it doesn't seem like they're like coming to arrest him
or anything.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Where are the cameras in this fucking ship, man? There
should be like a closed caption like circuit, Like there's
a camera in the fucking bridge, like the uh, the
jail cells. Why isn't there cameras in in in the
area where they're loading up ships with like machinery and shit?
Where are the camera? Like I'm like really anti surveillance
(23:14):
and shit, But sometimes rolling back the footage and showing
Chief pulling that big ass suitcase full of baby like
he needs to be tried for treason too, well.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But would that look bad? Like he's doing his job,
he's getting the ship ready to take off.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He literally helped her leave.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I guess I just don't think that footage would
be enough evidence. And he had the power out of
edge when he was actually doing the body swap.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Oh, so he's in the clear. But is this conscious clear?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
No, that was a good word of play. All right,
anything else happened?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I feel like that was it. I mean, so that
scene with Roslin where she warns the chief about it,
we kind of learned that they're they're rebuilding the government
by having each ship have a represent representative in the government.
How was it before it was still by the colonies.
Oh yeah, and then so the Cylon ship also has
(24:13):
a representative representative.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's cool. That means the prison ship has a people.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yep, that's cool. Prison ship is probably full of insurrections directions.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah. Even Starbuck was like, our ranks have thinned since
the mutiny, so you might not have a passenger pal
she says, enjoy the silence, and don't whack off too long.
You got to conserve oxygen. That wasn't her like prepared speech.
Don't whack off too much. I guess that's what I'd
(24:44):
be doing if I was alone in a ship for
like weeks and just be like, I need a shower
after or something. Though, just like six weeks of not bathing.
No wonder, toothpaste is a high commodity.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Do you think that they're all like disprushing their teeth
with water or I feel they're making some other formula.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
They probably have algae paste, Like all you need is fluoride, right,
and they might have like fluoride and another chemical together.
Or I know that some people brush their teeth with charcoal,
so that might be a thing too, Or they might
be dry brushing, just got to get the plak off,
(25:22):
which I think would suck. Nobody having fresh bread. I mean,
I hate tank you breasts and they're all living in
such tight quarters. And then when uh Boomer said she
traded for soap, I'm like, oh my god, they don't
have soap either.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
She said she traded for real soap, so they have
something that they're using something.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Where did she get real soap or do you think
it's just the way that she smells is different?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Maybe yeah, because she's let's say, have really nice soap
with the prison cell.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Or she brought it from like when she was packing
from Cavels. She was like, I better grab this soap.
I remember that ship. They have all that goop I'm
sure they can make soap out of that goop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
All right, are you ready to move on?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Astoral queen? Who was the standout character in the episode.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Who's Your Space? Cow Girl? I think I'm gonna pick
Boomer for being a bitch.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, that's rough, what I mean? Boomer? Boomer did a.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Lot, She did a lot, she did a lot. She
played that man like a fucking fiddle, and then she
left him alone in the house with all those flowers.
So I picked Boomer for being a total bitch.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Wow, well you're allowed to do that. Yeah, Now, I
remember I picked Boomer one time. I think when she
shot a dumba. I was thinking about picking Laura Roslin
serving the only one that could see all the bullsh
shit from mill Away.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I was surprised you didn't pick Starbuck for being like
an idiot savant with those coloring sheets.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
No. I mean Starbucks story was all right.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It was basic.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It was fairly obvious. I think at some point that
like this is her dad or representation of her dad.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Or I didn't get it at our efforts. It wouldn't
be honest.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It wasn't like a big talking reveal. Yes, I don't know,
but so, I mean, it's an interesting character thing, but
you picked Laura obviously ties into bigger stuff with that song.
So but yeah, I'm just going with Roslin sitting at
her desk and signing that paper and telling Chief to
shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, Cheek, get
your emotions out of here.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Get out of here, get out. You're no longer welcome
in this room. You're bullshit. I would have kept him close.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
All right. So President Roslin and Boomer, your awards are
on the way. So next episode it's called islanded, islanded, islanded.
That's a weird way to make that a verb islanded
in a Stream of Stars. Extended version, we're gonna watch
the extended cut, So if you're watching it on streaming,
(28:15):
probably don't have the extended cut, but I will go
through any differences in the episodes, and then as a reminder,
because we'reritten pretty close to the end, the way we
decided to cover the finale was we're going to watch
the way that it originally aired, which is part one
as its own episode, and then parts two and three
as a single episode. You can find an extended cut
(28:38):
that is all three parts, and it's like three hours long,
but we wanted to break it up and talk about
it separately and just get one more episode out of this,
all right, So we're going to go into the spoiler section.
If you don't want to be spoiled on these remaining
three episodes, then don't continue listening. Let's put our.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Living stereo stylus.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
In this group.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Grace for impact. Spoilers ahead. If you haven't seen the
whole series, now is the time to say goodbye. Remember
you can contact us at Spacingoutpod at gmail dot com,
find us on social media, share your thoughts and be
a part of the discussion. Spoilers in five four three two.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
One spoiler section anything.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I forget what cattle does with the baby, Like, does
he even have like goldfish or anything?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Probably not. He probably just seats like unseasoned peanuts or something.
Season us for humans, I want to taste the complexities
of the raw ingredients.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Is there people who do that? I feel like there
are some like holier than thou kind of people who
are like thinking that seasoninas for low brow humans can't
appreciate the taste of food.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Your weak tongues can't appreciate the natural flavors.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Girl, get some onion powder.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh yeah, so Harrah is gonna be with Cavil and
those guys.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I wish that they would just have her crying and
screaming the whole time that they she was with them,
like a real baby, like a real baby, like just
like crying and screaming the whole time, especially after she
came out of like being drugged and put in a
little box, like crying and screaming the whole time, and
they hate her. That would be so real. That would
(30:36):
be so real, I would be That would make me
have a deeper appreciation for the genre, to be like
we relate, we like we see you children, and we
understand that, like you would cry. And it would have
been awesome if Harrah started crying when Boomer picked her up.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, I feel like they showed Boomer like shoving that
water in her face and yeah, trying to get out
of that room real quick.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah. But it would have been cool if if Haarah
was like no, mommy, no, or's something like to give
off Because I feel like they're trying to paint Haah
as this special baby, and I feel like a special
baby would.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Know her mom. Well, maybe she's so special that she
sees the bigger picture and no, she needs to go
on this journey. Oh, because she is writing the notes
to a song that is going to eventually translate into
coordinates to find her.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, she's a genius. She's tapped into something. I'm ready
for them to have a real Cylon interaction too, be
like that's coming.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah. I don't remember what's going on next episode, but
the finale is all about rescuing Haarah, and that's where
the opera House comes in the play and then the
song gets them back to Earth, a new Earth two point.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Zero two point oh a better or let's not fried
by nuclear disaster? You ready to go? Where you got
another spoiler? Can't think of anything? I know? Chief gets
away with it.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, I was just trying to look at the next
episode to see anything worth mentioning.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
LA's gonna die eventually.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, oh, Anders, We're gonna look him up, put him
in the bathtub and shove some wires in him. See
what happens.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He's rebooting.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
The next episode is directed by Edward James. Almost says
that Harrah begins to whine and cry for her mother. God.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh yeah, that's that's what's going on. We probably don't
even need a spoiler section anymore now that we're here
at the end.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, probably let's go there, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, that was someone to watch over me an episode.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It gives you know what it gives. It gives that
Metallica riff where it's like, now I laying down to sleep, Breathford,
So to keep hush, little baby, don't.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Say a word.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Never mind that voice you heard, you know the song.
It's giving that. That's what I thought it was about.
That song is so good. Okay, I'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Freck Off, freck off.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
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