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Welcome to Spacing Out With BB and Jason! We’re covering the 2004 reboot of Battlestar Galactica, and this week we’re discussing season 4 episode 5, “The Road Less Traveled”. Thanks for joining us!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week
covering Battlestar Galacticus season four, episode five, The Road Less Traveled.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Babe and I'm Jason, and this is spacing Out
where today we will of course be discussing Battlestar Galactica.
If you are new to the show, first of all,
welcome hi. Second of all, you should know we're going
to have a spoiler section at the end of the
podcast where we're free to discuss anything that happens after
this episode, but otherwise we won't be spoiling anything that
(00:38):
comes after this episode, which is Battlestar Galactica Season four,
episode five, The Road Less Traveled. This aired on May two,
two thousand and eight. Written by Mark Verheiden, directed by
Michael Raimer. The survivor count was thirty nine, six hundred
and seventy six people, which is an edition of one,
so must have been a baby born.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Somewhere probably I'm Altar's commute.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
In this episode, Chief Till struggles with Calli's apparent suicide
and has a confrontation with Baltar. On the Demetrius, the
crew encounter Leobin and a damage raider who offers a truth,
a truth between the Cylon and humans. Starbucks decides to
help Leobin instead of rendezvousing with the Galactica. Whoever her
(01:23):
crew refuse the order and relieve her of command. Sucks
to suck and to be continued.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Five check did we like the episode overall? How does
it stand the test of time?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
All?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Phoebe? How did this episode sit for you?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Eh?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It was okay? Was my favorite? It was okay, just
missing something for me. I don't know what she liked.
The tension between Starbuck and Leoban wasn't high enough or something.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Usually they're more she's very old to him and everything
he's saying, yeah, the fact that her and everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Else yeah, And so I was just like kind of
disappointed in that. And like when Anders finds them in
her room, when he's like got his hand on the
back of her waist, I was like, yeah, I wouldn't.
I don't care how much I trust you for like
or I'm excited for us finding earth. You held me
(02:27):
in a replica of my apartment and mentally manipulated me
for months on end. I murdered you multiple times, and
I am not going to let you touch me like that?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So I was it Sam or Heila was reminding her
of that one of them. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Uh. And then like on the other side of things,
I wish they would have shown the chief cutting his
hair instead of just like jump scaring us.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't think they meant it as a jump scare.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I was upset. And he did it for this shoot.
That's great, and it would have been good to film it.
That would have been fucking gold if he did it
for another job. What if he just showed up to
set bald and they're like, well, at least your morning,
so we have an excuse.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I don't think you can do that. I think you
have like a contract contracts around like your haircut appearance basically,
Oh okay, well remember the mustache removal and the Justice League.
Remember that, like controversy. No, I had to digitally remove
Henry Cavill's mustache for reshoot Superman Henry Havell. I didn't
(03:44):
watch the movie, Okay, it was made fun of a
lot of online. Oh okay, yeah, not because he had
a weird looking lip. They they did him dirty with
a mouth. Well, but yeah, yeah, this episode, Like if
I'm just watching through the season and not like stopping
the pick Apart the episodes, I wouldn't think that much
(04:04):
about it, but it is kind of a slow burn.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It doesn't get interesting until the very end when the
mutiny's happening, and then they cut it right and it's
like god damn it.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And then so I don't know, I just feel like
it's a it's a lot of character stuff with like
Chief and Baltar and yeah, Starbuck is acting weird, and
so yeah, I it's it is what it is. It's
you know, listening to the commentary as I'm looking for trivia,
like I learned that like they they broke the story
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for these first ten episodes of the season at the
same time, as opposed to usually they would be like
one episode at the time and they just kind of
know the benchmarks of where they're trying to go. But
like this is like a ten episode story that they're telling,
and so yeah, it doesn't really have as much of
a beginning middle end, and it is just like exploring
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these characters a bit and not a whole lot of
action in this one. Did you like it? I like it,
but it's not one I like single out for anything.
I don't love it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, it's not memorable, except when Torri was finally laughing
instead of crying during sex. So that was nice. Her
story because interesting so far. Like she's definitely moving in
a very interesting direction compared to the other Cylon counterparts.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
She's so like comfortable and casual with like who she
is right now, even when she's playing multiple sides. Yeah,
because she's like she's still working with the President and
she's telling her all this information about Baltar, and she
has no problem just telling Baltar that too.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, she's like playing three D chess, everybody else is
playing checkers.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Trivia time. What facts could we uncover for The Road
Less Traveled?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
All right, a little bit of trivia. The title of
the episode comes from the poem The Road Not Taken
by Robert Frost. This is the only episode not to
feature Admiral Odama. Even when he was in those like
when he was shot and he was just in sick Bay,
he appeared in those episodes at.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Least, right you'd see him in bed sad Ye.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's the first episode to not feature Laura Roslin.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's what I was missing. I was missing those two
and their characters are so important to this story that
I was like, is this not memorable? That's what it
is now I know.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Number six also doesn't appear in the episode, so there's
a lot of missing characters. There's a deleted scene that
featured the head six saying goodbye to Baltar because he
no longer needs her, but they cut that so she
no longer appears in the episode. And the scene near
the end with Baltar and Chief Tyrol, when Baltar goes
to see him in Tyrol's room, that was rewritten on
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set to remove all the dialogue from the Chief. It
was originally conversation between the two of them, and the
idea came from the actors, and apparently it was a
big argument with the showrunner, Ronald D. Moore, because they
called him last minute wanting to make this big change
to the scene.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't feel like it's a big thing to film
one guy just gives his dialogue and the other guy
just sits there quietly. They could film both of them
and then figure it out post.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's what they ended up doing, but you don't always
have time for that on a TV schedule.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And so it's better to argue about it and waste
more time. Hello, men are weird because it would be
just like doing a second take. You have, you can
do a second take and then this time just don't react.
I don't understand why it would be a big deal.
I'd be like, Okay, you know what if you're really
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that passionate about it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Because there's a lot of covered you shoot a scene
multiple times for different angles.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Okay, whatever. I don't know these things. I'm just like,
I don't see why it's a big deal. But maybe
you're taking Ronald's side then.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And I understand both sides.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I only understand the side of doing it a different way.
Why not try something different? And maybe you didn't come
up with it until or last minute because you're in
the moment and you're like in costume and you're like
feeling the energy of the story. I could see the
creative side of it. And apparently it worked out for
them because it's the version they used. Yeah, so I
(08:24):
feel like ronaldy More needs to take a chill pill
next time.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, he was willing to admit that their version was
better because put it in the cut.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So deep Space Dive, let's break down some of our
thoughts on the episode. You can share your thoughts with
us through email, Facebook, or Twitter. We may use your
comments on an upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Let's rip this thing apart. Let's rip it apart. What
do you want to talk about first? Because there's so
much to talk about? I'm just kidding, I don't there's
too much to talk about. There's a couple of things
I would like to talk about. The first scene being
that Tori's fucking Baltar that lays the groundwork for the episode,
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and I'm like, are they like together?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Then?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Is that his only person that he's fucking right now?
Or is he in an open relationship with her?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I think that a lot of the women in his
little commune.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Get a come in, so you think it's open. And
she's totally cool with it. She don't give a fuck.
She gidd fuck up.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And I feel like we haven't seen any men in
there recently, but.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
There's a couple of guys with long hair who might
be getting in the bed there too, because I feel
like Baltar would be a gender fluid, Like we're not
gender fluid, but bisexual baddie, you know what I mean. Like,
during a certain situation, if the right guy came along,
Baltar would probably be like, I'm open to this. He
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does have like a woman living inside of his head
twenty four to seven, so you could always transpose her
as the man. I don't know. I feel like he
would be into a variety of different or non vanilla
types of engagements. All the guys that I remember seeing
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in the in the commune are pretty hot, like, and
I would say ambiguously hot, like they could easily pass
as with a lot of feminine energy. Because the one
I'm thinking up specifically as a guy with really beautiful
long hair.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well, I think it's implied that there's nothing like monogamous,
right right, Okay, Well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Know, because it hasn't. They haven't shown like other women
going up to him or hugging him or kissing him
or doing anything explicitly physical with him. So far, all
I've seen them do is applaud him. So I don't know,
but I like to imagine that it is like, but
(11:02):
I don't know if that's like a correct imagining or
if it's just like something that we put into ourselves,
because what if he is monogamous? What if he does
really like Tori?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, it's possible, but I don't think we've seen him
with anyone since Tory started sleeping with him, but prior.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
To that, Like, yeah, he saw other women in that
there two of them, so he did menasee, he did
do the MENASEATOI I don't know. I would like more
on that, and I would be more interested in that,
but they're not giving me that. Instead, they're giving me
chief tyerial like going ham and his bunk message shit
up that he's gonna end up having to clean up
(11:43):
because he doesn't have a fucking maid or anybody else
to clean up after him anymore. How do you feel
about his new look? I mean, he definitely looks more
angry all the time. It's like he needed to express
to everyone else visually his mourning. Yeah, and his dissatisfaction
(12:03):
with life. And his hair was so curly and bouncy
and kind of joyful. It's really weird to see him
without it. He looks like a skinhead, like he's about
to join up with some crew of the fucking Sons
of Anarchy or what is it called the Sons of Apollo,
Like he's a recruit for them, Oh, the Sons of Averyes. Sorry,
(12:27):
I know it was something Greek, not anarchy. That's another show, Okay, yeah,
but he probably could be in the Sons of Anarchy
with this get up. He's creeping me out, man, and
then he's gone up to Baltar, and Baltar's like, come
hold my hand. Kelly would have wanted it this way,
and I feel like Callie would not have wanted it
(12:49):
this way. I feel like, I don't know, like she
liked Baltar to a point, but I don't know if
she actually forgave him.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I don't know. I mean, she was definitely reading his
book about class struggle.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right right, but I don't know. Yeah, but class struggle
and like this idea of like the unequal treatment of
the proletariat is way different and a harder stretch than
there's only one God and you're a and we're now
a monotheistic religion when you're a polyist poly what is
(13:27):
it called a multiple god?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Love and war?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And she was, She loved all her gods, she went
to the temple, she even got stuck at the temple
when there was an attack. So it was just like
I don't think she would be on board for that personally, Like,
but I also feel like she wouldn't be like, I'm
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gonna join the Sons of Achilles or whatever, you know
what I mean, Yeah, she's not going to join a
hate group because of it, But I don't think she'd
be like, oh, I follow this religion now because Baltar
said so. So I feel like that was a big
stretch for Baltar to throw that out there, and I
(14:14):
think it was also a little too soon.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, as soon as Baltar mentions Callie's name, We're like,
this isn't gonna go well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And it doesn't. He chokes him right away. I was like,
he's gonna get beat up. And even like before that,
he even mentions like, if I'm not getting beat up,
you know, I don't know what I'm doing. And I
feel like he's just been beat the fuck up almost
every episode now where his beliefs were, the way he's
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talking to someone.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I wrote down a little bit of Baltar and Chief's
history together because some of it's it's been a while,
it's easy to forget back on Cobal. In season two,
Baltar saved Cali's life by killing crashed down.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, back on the when they were doing that
whole thing on that planet, and they like landed that
algae planet, right, not the.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Algae planet, some other planet. Yeah, this was Cobal at
the end of season one, beginning of season two, prior
to them finding that the temple on there.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeahah yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And then Chief was a course part of the resistance
on New Kaprica, and Chief was the one that captured
Baltar on this algae planet that never got a name.
And I just said, KLi was very invested in the
words Boltar is writing about class struggle, so they have
a little bit of a complex history together.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, and Baltar is Nicky's favorite bedtime story.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That is true. Dear Old can't escape Baltar because it's
the only thing that kid wants to hear, which.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Is fucking I would be so pissed off. My baby
wouldn't go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Which I want. If that's because Calli was listening to it,
prob maybe.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Maybe that that is a good point. I didn't think
about that, but maybe yeah, maybe Calli was a Baltar head.
I don't know what they called him. Oh, they haven't
gotten a name yet.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I also think that Baltar isn't being like selfless in
this he wants chief among his people because Tory like
pointed out that he has no one of note of
concern like among his followers, right, And.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
She's not counting herself because she's like incognito.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Right, Like Adama and Roslin aren't too concerned about him
right now. But if he can pull the chief, that's someone.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right. Oh, I didn't realize that was the end game,
and I just thought he was being like kind of
a dick.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But in the end they hold hands, all right. Well,
so she should be hop over to the Demetrius. That
shit show. Literally, the Seward Chip doesn't seem to have
proper climate control because they're so sweaty.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I would be ready to go. I don't blame
this crew at all. I'd be ready to go. This
bitch is in their finger painting her bedroom, like playing
with paints, making planets and shit, and I'm like, girl,
we haven't moved for twenty hours. We're not doing anything.
And then all of a sudden we run into some
(17:24):
silons and she wants to go on the ship. She
hasn't flown since she came back from who knows where,
and there's like a lot of speculation about if she's
really herself or not, and it's like she doesn't care
about her crew until they die, and then she gives
the worst eulogy ever where she's like, it sucks, it sucks.
(17:46):
It's stupid. You die because you're stupid and it's stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And I'm like, what, Yeah, she's not a great captain.
I think Adama should have set it up with like
the captain and you're gonna be like advising on where
you think they should go. Yeah, because giving her all
that control has led to this mutiny.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, it's not good news for her. She's not winning
popularity contests in this ship, especially after she lets the
Cylon on and then she lets him in her room
and she lets him hold her hand and her body,
using her as a pencil to map out coordinates that
she's sure are to Earth. But he might just be
(18:31):
wiggling around with her, trying to rub his dick against
her butt, you know what I mean, rude?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't know. I'm just having a hard time trusting her.
And Leo Bin is not trustworthy at all. He has
never done anything that's.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Like, Oh, I like this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I can trust him. And he's like, we're and he
lets it slip. Well, he's very candid about it to Hondurs,
a fellow Cylon, that he has no idea as a
fellow Cylon, that they're at war with each other, the
Cylons are in a civil war, and he's like, why
don't you join her side and will help you and
(19:09):
you'll help us and there can be a truce. And
I'm like, who the fuck is Leobin to offer a truce?
Is he like one of the generals? Is he in
charge of the other side, because he's never been at
the round table when they do their talks. I don't
remember lee Obin talking anything, saying anything. It's always been
Number six and that fucking old guy arguing with each
(19:32):
other back and forth. So what gives Leobin the authority
to be like, We'll totally be in a truce with you,
and I'm sure that my partners will be okay with it.
I don't trust it. I don't know. I smell a rat,
I feel like. And then what happened when they did
approach his ship was really tragic and sad, and I
(19:54):
kind of really enjoyed the way that they shot that,
where like I think the actress who was like looking
at that thing and then her surprise and her death
ultimately was done really well.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah that was I think her name was Matthias. Yeah,
she's been on the show for a while. She's never
has like a very big role, but she's been there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah. It's interesting with like Sam and Leo Wyn because
I feel like Anders is always he's going to be
very concerned that another Cylon can recognize.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Him, right, because he's the one that got scanned and
that ship just left him alone and everybody else left. Yeah,
and what the fuck was that about? That never got explained?
That retreat right after they scanned Anders freaky, So I huh, I.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Guess they didn't explain it, but they that's why they
were like trying to lobotomize the raiders and stuff, because
they did that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Oh the they didn't understand what was happening neither.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
They didn't understand why the raiders turned back, but they
were trying to lobotomize them and so that they couldn't
have that much agency reasoning. Yeah, okay, but them shooting
at each other.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That wasn't clear to me.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Okay, story, Yeah, I don't know what else to really
say about this whole situation. I mean, Starbuck pushes everyone
away to the point where even Heilo, who's one of
her allies allies, breaks as well.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, she's just super alienating and not a good leader.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, just like a little bit of communication skills would
have gone a long way.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And I don't know what kind of like thing. I
don't know what happened to her where she thought this
was okay to treat people like this, Like is this
the first time that she's been in charge of something? No,
so what the fuck are you doing? Like, I don't
get it. I don't get it, and it makes her
look really bad and I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
It's interesting that Athena was so like pro mutiny, because
you would think, like, as a cylon who has so
prove herself every day among the humans, that she wouldn't
be trying to do anything that controversial.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I was really concerned that maybe her programming was
trying to sabotage the mission in a way that she
wasn't conscious of it, because I don't know, it was
weird that she was so gun ho about like, fuck Starbuck,
we don't need to listen to her. Because Hilo was like, no,
(22:25):
we're on a mission. We have orders, and the orders
were clear, and it was just weird that the silence
like this. I don't know. I just don't know, like
how unprogrammed she is, because the last time we had
a Sharon, you know, out of nowhere, she grabbed a
gun and what fucking almost murdered a Dama. So like,
(22:46):
how do we know when the Cylon programming is taking effect,
even on a subconscious level. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
We never really do.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, after everything that happens, Starbucks still intends to go
to out the spaceship and Hilo refuses the order. She
didn't tries to appoint Gaeta as XO and he's like nope.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, I don't know why she thought Gaeta was her
Ally he hates her.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I wonder if he volunteered for this or if he
was stuck with this assignment.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know. He's good with maps and systems, true,
so I wouldn't be surprised if he got stuck with it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Also seems like they gave quite a few of their
main crew members over to this ship.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I don't know how Adama thought he was going
to get away with Like just like sneaking this past,
like we're missing some of our most talented people. I
don't know. I don't know. I don't know how he
sneaked that one through. They're due back to rendezvous, so
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, you scroll through here see if there's a chance
anything worth mentioning. There's not.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, we're done.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
As queen, who was the standout character in the episode.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Who's your astro queen?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think my astral queen for this episode is going
to be TORIORI. Yeah, oh wow, because Tory just has
it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm gonna go with Andres No not Onres. What's his name,
the other one, hel Helo, Yeah, he loo, because I
think he did the right thing, even though it felt
like the wrong thing. He's been trying to do the
right thing throughout, but then he eventually was like I
am an acting military order something something like he read
(24:37):
the book and he did it by the book.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You definitely get to see him struggle with it. Yeah,
as oppose everyone else who's just like fuck it, let's
fuck Starbuck.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We need to go home. It stinks here and it's
hot and sweaty, and we just lost our friend. Yeah,
that's where I'm going.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, I picked Tory because, as we said, she's playing
all sides she can. She easily fits in with Baltar
and she's still doing her job with the President. And
she goes up and talks the Chief at the site
where she murdered his wife.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Oh yeah, that was really ballsy. And then she even said,
do you think someone murdered her?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Like, because I fucking didd she don't do a fuck.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
She's like Baltar says that we are forgiven and we
are fucking perfect. And I eat my dick. I like
the little pep talk that that Chief gets from what's
his name, Colonel Tye get yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I like that too, because Chief's like, oh, yeah, here
you're hanging out with number six. So yeah, I won't
you get on out of my episode?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, all right, you ready for spoilers because I am.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, we're going to move into the spoiler section. So
if that is not the section for you, then get
off the ship and we'll see you next time for
the episode called Faith Stereo Stylist in this group.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Race for impact spoilers ahead. If you haven't seen the
whole series, now is the time to say goodbye. Remember
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three two one, what's.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Up with spoilers now?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Jason?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
What is ups? Well? Leo Bin? He talks a lot
about how Starbuck is different from the last time he
saw and he calls her an angel, and that's basically
confirmed in the finale. They don't say it, but Starbuck
ceases to exist at a certain point and we're just
left to.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Assume that she was replaced by an angel.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Basically.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And seeing the Chief Fauld makes me remember that we're
going to see raw one bald soon.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh yeah, in a bald cap.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, really bad the obvious bald cap. I'd say she
has a lot of hair. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I wonder if they're gonna give her eyebrows or not.
I don't remember. I was gonna make bitch bald. I
would give her no eyebrows to sell it, because if
you're losing your hair on your head, what makes you
think your eyebrows are safe?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, she probably is a good marker.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
When are they gonna reveal that the baby Nikki is
not part Cylon.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I think that's probably not for a while. I think
the revelation that Chief is a Cylon has to get
out first, so they get outed.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
They do.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So, I know I was trying to answer this like
a couple episodes ago, but now that I've worked ahead
a little bit, I remember more of what happened. So
this whole thing was Starbuck and Leo bin uh does
lead to them joining up with that base ship, getting
back to Galactica, and forming an alliance. Unboxing Deanna and
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reveal who the final Cylons are.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
She narks on all of them.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yep, what a pitch. I don't remember exactly how.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, well, we'll watch I'm looking out for it. How
many more episodes? Still, we're done?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
This is episode five, so there's fifteen more episodes.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Only shit, what fifteen more episodes? Yep, will be there's
twenty episodes in this season.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, this is a this is a different era of television.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, you're telling me, but.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
There's So we'll go through episode ten and probably take
a little break because there was a big production break
and the writer's strike, so there was actually almost a
year between the first half of the season and second
half of the season.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And the writers are going on strike again, y'all. It's
been many years since they've done it, so I feel
like it's time for negotiations. So I hope y'all are
ready for some two thousands era reality TV to surge.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Okay, like everyone probably has like enough shows that they've
been wanting to watch that we can fill the time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, but you know, television production won't stop just because
they don't have writers. They're just gonna go ahead without
people in charge to tell them what creative direction to
go in, and it's gonna be a shit show. So
hope we're ready for that. All right, Well I'm ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Well, then that does it for the road let's traveled,
and we will see you all next time for the
episode Faith, because you gotta have faith, So say we all.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
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Season four, episode six Faith. We hope you will join us,
so say we all
Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week
covering Battlestar Galacticus season four, episode five, The Road Less Traveled.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Babe and I'm Jason, and this is spacing Out
where today we will of course be discussing Battlestar Galactica.
If you are new to the show, first of all,
welcome hi. Second of all, you should know we're going
to have a spoiler section at the end of the
podcast where we're free to discuss anything that happens after
this episode, but otherwise we won't be spoiling anything that
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comes after this episode, which is Battlestar Galactica Season four,
episode five, The Road Less Traveled. This aired on May two,
two thousand and eight. Written by Mark Verheiden, directed by
Michael Raimer. The survivor count was thirty nine, six hundred
and seventy six people, which is an edition of one,
so must have been a baby born.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Somewhere probably I'm Altar's commute.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
In this episode, Chief Till struggles with Calli's apparent suicide
and has a confrontation with Baltar. On the Demetrius, the
crew encounter Leobin and a damage raider who offers a truth,
a truth between the Cylon and humans. Starbucks decides to
help Leobin instead of rendezvousing with the Galactica. Whoever her
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crew refuse the order and relieve her of command. Sucks
to suck and to be continued.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Five check did we like the episode overall? How does
it stand the test of time?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
All?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Phoebe? How did this episode sit for you?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Eh?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It was okay? Was my favorite? It was okay, just
missing something for me. I don't know what she liked.
The tension between Starbuck and Leoban wasn't high enough or something.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Usually they're more she's very old to him and everything
he's saying, yeah, the fact that her and everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Else yeah, And so I was just like kind of
disappointed in that. And like when Anders finds them in
her room, when he's like got his hand on the
back of her waist, I was like, yeah, I wouldn't.
I don't care how much I trust you for like
or I'm excited for us finding earth. You held me
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in a replica of my apartment and mentally manipulated me
for months on end. I murdered you multiple times, and
I am not going to let you touch me like that?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So I was it Sam or Heila was reminding her
of that one of them. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Uh. And then like on the other side of things,
I wish they would have shown the chief cutting his
hair instead of just like jump scaring us.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't think they meant it as a jump scare.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I was upset. And he did it for this shoot.
That's great, and it would have been good to film it.
That would have been fucking gold if he did it
for another job. What if he just showed up to
set bald and they're like, well, at least your morning,
so we have an excuse.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I don't think you can do that. I think you
have like a contract contracts around like your haircut appearance basically,
Oh okay, well remember the mustache removal and the Justice League.
Remember that, like controversy. No, I had to digitally remove
Henry Cavill's mustache for reshoot Superman Henry Havell. I didn't
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watch the movie, Okay, it was made fun of a
lot of online. Oh okay, yeah, not because he had
a weird looking lip. They they did him dirty with
a mouth. Well, but yeah, yeah, this episode, Like if
I'm just watching through the season and not like stopping
the pick Apart the episodes, I wouldn't think that much
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about it, but it is kind of a slow burn.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It doesn't get interesting until the very end when the
mutiny's happening, and then they cut it right and it's
like god damn it.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And then so I don't know, I just feel like
it's a it's a lot of character stuff with like
Chief and Baltar and yeah, Starbuck is acting weird, and
so yeah, I it's it is what it is. It's
you know, listening to the commentary as I'm looking for trivia,
like I learned that like they they broke the story
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for these first ten episodes of the season at the
same time, as opposed to usually they would be like
one episode at the time and they just kind of
know the benchmarks of where they're trying to go. But
like this is like a ten episode story that they're telling,
and so yeah, it doesn't really have as much of
a beginning middle end, and it is just like exploring
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these characters a bit and not a whole lot of
action in this one. Did you like it? I like it,
but it's not one I like single out for anything.
I don't love it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, it's not memorable, except when Torri was finally laughing
instead of crying during sex. So that was nice. Her
story because interesting so far. Like she's definitely moving in
a very interesting direction compared to the other Cylon counterparts.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
She's so like comfortable and casual with like who she
is right now, even when she's playing multiple sides. Yeah,
because she's like she's still working with the President and
she's telling her all this information about Baltar, and she
has no problem just telling Baltar that too.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, she's like playing three D chess, everybody else is
playing checkers.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Trivia time. What facts could we uncover for The Road
Less Traveled?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
All right, a little bit of trivia. The title of
the episode comes from the poem The Road Not Taken
by Robert Frost. This is the only episode not to
feature Admiral Odama. Even when he was in those like
when he was shot and he was just in sick Bay,
he appeared in those episodes at.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Least, right you'd see him in bed sad Ye.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's the first episode to not feature Laura Roslin.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's what I was missing. I was missing those two
and their characters are so important to this story that
I was like, is this not memorable? That's what it
is now I know.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Number six also doesn't appear in the episode, so there's
a lot of missing characters. There's a deleted scene that
featured the head six saying goodbye to Baltar because he
no longer needs her, but they cut that so she
no longer appears in the episode. And the scene near
the end with Baltar and Chief Tyrol, when Baltar goes
to see him in Tyrol's room, that was rewritten on
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set to remove all the dialogue from the Chief. It
was originally conversation between the two of them, and the
idea came from the actors, and apparently it was a
big argument with the showrunner, Ronald D. Moore, because they
called him last minute wanting to make this big change
to the scene.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't feel like it's a big thing to film
one guy just gives his dialogue and the other guy
just sits there quietly. They could film both of them
and then figure it out post.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's what they ended up doing, but you don't always
have time for that on a TV schedule.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And so it's better to argue about it and waste
more time. Hello, men are weird because it would be
just like doing a second take. You have, you can
do a second take and then this time just don't react.
I don't understand why it would be a big deal.
I'd be like, Okay, you know what if you're really
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that passionate about it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Because there's a lot of covered you shoot a scene
multiple times for different angles.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Okay, whatever. I don't know these things. I'm just like,
I don't see why it's a big deal. But maybe
you're taking Ronald's side then.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And I understand both sides.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I only understand the side of doing it a different way.
Why not try something different? And maybe you didn't come
up with it until or last minute because you're in
the moment and you're like in costume and you're like
feeling the energy of the story. I could see the
creative side of it. And apparently it worked out for
them because it's the version they used. Yeah, so I
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feel like ronaldy More needs to take a chill pill
next time.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, he was willing to admit that their version was
better because put it in the cut.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So deep Space Dive, let's break down some of our
thoughts on the episode. You can share your thoughts with
us through email, Facebook, or Twitter. We may use your
comments on an upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Let's rip this thing apart. Let's rip it apart. What
do you want to talk about first? Because there's so
much to talk about? I'm just kidding, I don't there's
too much to talk about. There's a couple of things
I would like to talk about. The first scene being
that Tori's fucking Baltar that lays the groundwork for the episode,
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and I'm like, are they like together?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Then?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Is that his only person that he's fucking right now?
Or is he in an open relationship with her?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I think that a lot of the women in his
little commune.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Get a come in, so you think it's open. And
she's totally cool with it. She don't give a fuck.
She gidd fuck up.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And I feel like we haven't seen any men in
there recently, but.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
There's a couple of guys with long hair who might
be getting in the bed there too, because I feel
like Baltar would be a gender fluid, Like we're not
gender fluid, but bisexual baddie, you know what I mean. Like,
during a certain situation, if the right guy came along,
Baltar would probably be like, I'm open to this. He
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does have like a woman living inside of his head
twenty four to seven, so you could always transpose her
as the man. I don't know. I feel like he
would be into a variety of different or non vanilla
types of engagements. All the guys that I remember seeing
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in the in the commune are pretty hot, like, and
I would say ambiguously hot, like they could easily pass
as with a lot of feminine energy. Because the one
I'm thinking up specifically as a guy with really beautiful
long hair.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well, I think it's implied that there's nothing like monogamous,
right right, Okay, Well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Know, because it hasn't. They haven't shown like other women
going up to him or hugging him or kissing him
or doing anything explicitly physical with him. So far, all
I've seen them do is applaud him. So I don't know,
but I like to imagine that it is like, but
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I don't know if that's like a correct imagining or
if it's just like something that we put into ourselves,
because what if he is monogamous? What if he does
really like Tori?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, it's possible, but I don't think we've seen him
with anyone since Tory started sleeping with him, but prior.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
To that, Like, yeah, he saw other women in that
there two of them, so he did menasee, he did
do the MENASEATOI I don't know. I would like more
on that, and I would be more interested in that,
but they're not giving me that. Instead, they're giving me
chief tyerial like going ham and his bunk message shit
up that he's gonna end up having to clean up
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because he doesn't have a fucking maid or anybody else
to clean up after him anymore. How do you feel
about his new look? I mean, he definitely looks more
angry all the time. It's like he needed to express
to everyone else visually his mourning. Yeah, and his dissatisfaction
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with life. And his hair was so curly and bouncy
and kind of joyful. It's really weird to see him
without it. He looks like a skinhead, like he's about
to join up with some crew of the fucking Sons
of Anarchy or what is it called the Sons of Apollo,
Like he's a recruit for them, Oh, the Sons of Averyes. Sorry,
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I know it was something Greek, not anarchy. That's another show, Okay, yeah,
but he probably could be in the Sons of Anarchy
with this get up. He's creeping me out, man, and
then he's gone up to Baltar, and Baltar's like, come
hold my hand. Kelly would have wanted it this way,
and I feel like Callie would not have wanted it
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this way. I feel like, I don't know, like she
liked Baltar to a point, but I don't know if
she actually forgave him.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I don't know. I mean, she was definitely reading his
book about class struggle.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right right, but I don't know. Yeah, but class struggle
and like this idea of like the unequal treatment of
the proletariat is way different and a harder stretch than
there's only one God and you're a and we're now
a monotheistic religion when you're a polyist poly what is
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it called a multiple god?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Love and war?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And she was, She loved all her gods, she went
to the temple, she even got stuck at the temple
when there was an attack. So it was just like
I don't think she would be on board for that personally, Like,
but I also feel like she wouldn't be like, I'm
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gonna join the Sons of Achilles or whatever, you know
what I mean, Yeah, she's not going to join a
hate group because of it, But I don't think she'd
be like, oh, I follow this religion now because Baltar
said so. So I feel like that was a big
stretch for Baltar to throw that out there, and I
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think it was also a little too soon.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, as soon as Baltar mentions Callie's name, We're like,
this isn't gonna go well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And it doesn't. He chokes him right away. I was like,
he's gonna get beat up. And even like before that,
he even mentions like, if I'm not getting beat up,
you know, I don't know what I'm doing. And I
feel like he's just been beat the fuck up almost
every episode now where his beliefs were, the way he's
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talking to someone.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I wrote down a little bit of Baltar and Chief's
history together because some of it's it's been a while,
it's easy to forget back on Cobal. In season two,
Baltar saved Cali's life by killing crashed down.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, back on the when they were doing that
whole thing on that planet, and they like landed that
algae planet, right, not the.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Algae planet, some other planet. Yeah, this was Cobal at
the end of season one, beginning of season two, prior
to them finding that the temple on there.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeahah yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And then Chief was a course part of the resistance
on New Kaprica, and Chief was the one that captured
Baltar on this algae planet that never got a name.
And I just said, KLi was very invested in the
words Boltar is writing about class struggle, so they have
a little bit of a complex history together.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, and Baltar is Nicky's favorite bedtime story.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That is true. Dear Old can't escape Baltar because it's
the only thing that kid wants to hear, which.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Is fucking I would be so pissed off. My baby
wouldn't go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Which I want. If that's because Calli was listening to it,
prob maybe.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Maybe that that is a good point. I didn't think
about that, but maybe yeah, maybe Calli was a Baltar head.
I don't know what they called him. Oh, they haven't
gotten a name yet.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I also think that Baltar isn't being like selfless in
this he wants chief among his people because Tory like
pointed out that he has no one of note of
concern like among his followers, right, And.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
She's not counting herself because she's like incognito.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Right, Like Adama and Roslin aren't too concerned about him
right now. But if he can pull the chief, that's someone.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right. Oh, I didn't realize that was the end game,
and I just thought he was being like kind of
a dick.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But in the end they hold hands, all right. Well,
so she should be hop over to the Demetrius. That
shit show. Literally, the Seward Chip doesn't seem to have
proper climate control because they're so sweaty.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I would be ready to go. I don't blame
this crew at all. I'd be ready to go. This
bitch is in their finger painting her bedroom, like playing
with paints, making planets and shit, and I'm like, girl,
we haven't moved for twenty hours. We're not doing anything.
And then all of a sudden we run into some
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silons and she wants to go on the ship. She
hasn't flown since she came back from who knows where,
and there's like a lot of speculation about if she's
really herself or not, and it's like she doesn't care
about her crew until they die, and then she gives
the worst eulogy ever where she's like, it sucks, it sucks.
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It's stupid. You die because you're stupid and it's stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And I'm like, what, Yeah, she's not a great captain.
I think Adama should have set it up with like
the captain and you're gonna be like advising on where
you think they should go. Yeah, because giving her all
that control has led to this mutiny.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, it's not good news for her. She's not winning
popularity contests in this ship, especially after she lets the
Cylon on and then she lets him in her room
and she lets him hold her hand and her body,
using her as a pencil to map out coordinates that
she's sure are to Earth. But he might just be
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wiggling around with her, trying to rub his dick against
her butt, you know what I mean, rude?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't know. I'm just having a hard time trusting her.
And Leo Bin is not trustworthy at all. He has
never done anything that's.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Like, Oh, I like this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I can trust him. And he's like, we're and he
lets it slip. Well, he's very candid about it to Hondurs,
a fellow Cylon, that he has no idea as a
fellow Cylon, that they're at war with each other, the
Cylons are in a civil war, and he's like, why
don't you join her side and will help you and
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you'll help us and there can be a truce. And
I'm like, who the fuck is Leobin to offer a truce?
Is he like one of the generals? Is he in
charge of the other side, because he's never been at
the round table when they do their talks. I don't
remember lee Obin talking anything, saying anything. It's always been
Number six and that fucking old guy arguing with each
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other back and forth. So what gives Leobin the authority
to be like, We'll totally be in a truce with you,
and I'm sure that my partners will be okay with it.
I don't trust it. I don't know. I smell a rat,
I feel like. And then what happened when they did
approach his ship was really tragic and sad, and I
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kind of really enjoyed the way that they shot that,
where like I think the actress who was like looking
at that thing and then her surprise and her death
ultimately was done really well.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah that was I think her name was Matthias. Yeah,
she's been on the show for a while. She's never
has like a very big role, but she's been there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah. It's interesting with like Sam and Leo Wyn because
I feel like Anders is always he's going to be
very concerned that another Cylon can recognize.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Him, right, because he's the one that got scanned and
that ship just left him alone and everybody else left. Yeah,
and what the fuck was that about? That never got explained?
That retreat right after they scanned Anders freaky, So I huh, I.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Guess they didn't explain it, but they that's why they
were like trying to lobotomize the raiders and stuff, because
they did that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Oh the they didn't understand what was happening neither.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
They didn't understand why the raiders turned back, but they
were trying to lobotomize them and so that they couldn't
have that much agency reasoning. Yeah, okay, but them shooting
at each other.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That wasn't clear to me.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Okay, story, Yeah, I don't know what else to really
say about this whole situation. I mean, Starbuck pushes everyone
away to the point where even Heilo, who's one of
her allies allies, breaks as well.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, she's just super alienating and not a good leader.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, just like a little bit of communication skills would
have gone a long way.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And I don't know what kind of like thing. I
don't know what happened to her where she thought this
was okay to treat people like this, Like is this
the first time that she's been in charge of something? No,
so what the fuck are you doing? Like, I don't
get it. I don't get it, and it makes her
look really bad and I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
It's interesting that Athena was so like pro mutiny, because
you would think, like, as a cylon who has so
prove herself every day among the humans, that she wouldn't
be trying to do anything that controversial.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I was really concerned that maybe her programming was
trying to sabotage the mission in a way that she
wasn't conscious of it, because I don't know, it was
weird that she was so gun ho about like, fuck Starbuck,
we don't need to listen to her. Because Hilo was like, no,
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we're on a mission. We have orders, and the orders
were clear, and it was just weird that the silence
like this. I don't know. I just don't know, like
how unprogrammed she is, because the last time we had
a Sharon, you know, out of nowhere, she grabbed a
gun and what fucking almost murdered a Dama. So like,
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how do we know when the Cylon programming is taking effect,
even on a subconscious level. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
We never really do.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, after everything that happens, Starbucks still intends to go
to out the spaceship and Hilo refuses the order. She
didn't tries to appoint Gaeta as XO and he's like nope.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, I don't know why she thought Gaeta was her
Ally he hates her.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I wonder if he volunteered for this or if he
was stuck with this assignment.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know. He's good with maps and systems, true,
so I wouldn't be surprised if he got stuck with it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Also seems like they gave quite a few of their
main crew members over to this ship.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I don't know how Adama thought he was going
to get away with Like just like sneaking this past,
like we're missing some of our most talented people. I
don't know. I don't know. I don't know how he
sneaked that one through. They're due back to rendezvous, so
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, you scroll through here see if there's a chance
anything worth mentioning. There's not.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, we're done.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
As queen, who was the standout character in the episode.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Who's your astro queen?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think my astral queen for this episode is going
to be TORIORI. Yeah, oh wow, because Tory just has
it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm gonna go with Andres No not Onres. What's his name,
the other one, hel Helo, Yeah, he loo, because I
think he did the right thing, even though it felt
like the wrong thing. He's been trying to do the
right thing throughout, but then he eventually was like I
am an acting military order something something like he read
(24:37):
the book and he did it by the book.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You definitely get to see him struggle with it. Yeah,
as oppose everyone else who's just like fuck it, let's
fuck Starbuck.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We need to go home. It stinks here and it's
hot and sweaty, and we just lost our friend. Yeah,
that's where I'm going.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, I picked Tory because, as we said, she's playing
all sides she can. She easily fits in with Baltar
and she's still doing her job with the President. And
she goes up and talks the Chief at the site
where she murdered his wife.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Oh yeah, that was really ballsy. And then she even said,
do you think someone murdered her?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Like, because I fucking didd she don't do a fuck.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
She's like Baltar says that we are forgiven and we
are fucking perfect. And I eat my dick. I like
the little pep talk that that Chief gets from what's
his name, Colonel Tye get yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I like that too, because Chief's like, oh, yeah, here
you're hanging out with number six. So yeah, I won't
you get on out of my episode?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, all right, you ready for spoilers because I am.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, we're going to move into the spoiler section. So
if that is not the section for you, then get
off the ship and we'll see you next time for
the episode called Faith Stereo Stylist in this group.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Race for impact spoilers ahead. If you haven't seen the
whole series, now is the time to say goodbye. Remember
you can contact us at Spacingoutpod at gmail dot com,
find us on Facebook and Twitter, share your thoughts and
be a part of the discussion spoilers. In five four
(26:29):
three two one, what's.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Up with spoilers now?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Jason?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
What is ups? Well? Leo Bin? He talks a lot
about how Starbuck is different from the last time he
saw and he calls her an angel, and that's basically
confirmed in the finale. They don't say it, but Starbuck
ceases to exist at a certain point and we're just
left to.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Assume that she was replaced by an angel.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Basically.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And seeing the Chief Fauld makes me remember that we're
going to see raw one bald soon.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh yeah, in a bald cap.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, really bad the obvious bald cap. I'd say she
has a lot of hair. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I wonder if they're gonna give her eyebrows or not.
I don't remember. I was gonna make bitch bald. I
would give her no eyebrows to sell it, because if
you're losing your hair on your head, what makes you
think your eyebrows are safe?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, she probably is a good marker.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
When are they gonna reveal that the baby Nikki is
not part Cylon.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I think that's probably not for a while. I think
the revelation that Chief is a Cylon has to get
out first, so they get outed.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
They do.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So, I know I was trying to answer this like
a couple episodes ago, but now that I've worked ahead
a little bit, I remember more of what happened. So
this whole thing was Starbuck and Leo bin uh does
lead to them joining up with that base ship, getting
back to Galactica, and forming an alliance. Unboxing Deanna and
(27:59):
reveal who the final Cylons are.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
She narks on all of them.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yep, what a pitch. I don't remember exactly how.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, well, we'll watch I'm looking out for it. How
many more episodes? Still, we're done?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
This is episode five, so there's fifteen more episodes.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Only shit, what fifteen more episodes? Yep, will be there's
twenty episodes in this season.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, this is a this is a different era of television.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, you're telling me, but.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
There's So we'll go through episode ten and probably take
a little break because there was a big production break
and the writer's strike, so there was actually almost a
year between the first half of the season and second
half of the season.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And the writers are going on strike again, y'all. It's
been many years since they've done it, so I feel
like it's time for negotiations. So I hope y'all are
ready for some two thousands era reality TV to surge.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Okay, like everyone probably has like enough shows that they've
been wanting to watch that we can fill the time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, but you know, television production won't stop just because
they don't have writers. They're just gonna go ahead without
people in charge to tell them what creative direction to
go in, and it's gonna be a shit show. So
hope we're ready for that. All right, Well I'm ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Well, then that does it for the road let's traveled,
and we will see you all next time for the
episode Faith, because you gotta have faith, So say we all.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Thank you for spacing out with BB and Jason. You
can help us out by subscribing and leaving a positive
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Season four, episode six Faith. We hope you will join us,
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