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September 19, 2025 63 mins
This week’s episode is extra special. I sit down with Shawnta Hill, known to many as LifeCoach614—a songwriter, podcaster, and life coach whose music found me at a deeply personal point in my own journey. Her lyrics felt like medicine—raw, empowering, and healing—and I knew I had to invite her to share her story here. In our conversation, Shawnta opens up about how she turned pain into purpose by writing songs straight from the pages of her diary. We dive into the heart of her lyrics, the wisdom she’s gained along the way, and her insights on boundaries, choosing peace, honoring ourselves, and standing fully in our power. If you’ve ever needed a reminder that even your hardest chapters can transform into something beautiful and healing, this episode will inspire you. 🎶✨
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Website: https://selfcareclub.org

Her Music: https://selfcareclub.org/pages/room2breathe-music-inspired-by-my-self-care-journey


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Spirit Journey Collective. I'm your host, Sarah Tai.
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of life who believe they have found their purpose. Together,
we will uncover unique backstories, hearing the raw experiences that
led them to the work they're doing today. Let's expand
our minds together with the captive being stories and inspiration

(00:22):
that awaits.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thank you so much for joining me for another episode
of Spirit Journey Collective. I have a really special guest today.
Your name is Seante Hill and I found her on Instagram.
She was actually one of the top songs that just
happened to be an Instagram story that I used and
fell in love with her album once I looked her
up on Amazon, and I'm so excited that she's decited

(00:44):
to be a guest today. Thank you so much for
being here today.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Chante no problem, Thank you for having me. I'm honestly
honored to be here and happy to share my story
with you.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm really excited and even my nine year old, like
I mentioned pre recording, is excited that I'm talking to you.
So and everyone I've shown your your songs too have
been just as amazed. So it's like not even just
me and my nine year old, like so many fans
just locally to me for you as well. So, Chante
is a songwriter, a life coach, n a fellow podcaster,

(01:16):
and why don't you just share a little bit more
about yourself, Chante And you know what, just just like
what it needs to be a songwriter, life coach and podcaster. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Absolutely so again, my name is Chante Hill. Most people
on online know me as Life Coach sixty one four,
but I am a master certified Self Care and Boundaries
life coach. I'm also a wellness advocate, and I'm the
visionary behind the Self Care Club and Room to Breathe project.

(01:46):
Under that umbrella, it also includes the blog, the podcast,
and the music that you spoke of. I like to
think that the work that I do intersects, you know,
between self care, healing and creativity. And so through my
coaching and community building, I'm helping people to reclaim their piece,
to set healthy boundaries, and to honestly just create lives

(02:08):
that's rooted in self love and alignment. So you know,
whether it's you know, the one on one coaching or
the digital community that we have or even through the
music that speaks to people. My intentions is just to
help people to understand that healing is possible, and you know,
even while they're on that journey of healing, while you're

(02:30):
doing your self care, that you don't have to do
it alone.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I love that it sounds like you've really take in
your own, your own journey. So when you're speaking about healing,
you're not just saying, Okay, you're gonna heal now. It's like, no, no,
I've been through it, so now I know that you
can too. And absolutely that's amazing, So why don't you share?
And so this is like one of my favorite parts
of the podcast is when I get to hear the
backstory of what brought you here to be a life

(02:56):
coach and a songwriter and a podcaster, Like, what brought
you to this place where now you transformed what you
went through to help other people go through similar or
maybe not so similar, but their own traumas.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, And honestly this is my favorite part too because
it gets to the heart of the story. For me,
I would honestly have to say that this all began
in my darkness back in twenty nineteen. Things got really
heavy for me, and I had to find my way
back to the light. It wasn't one particular event that

(03:29):
had taken place, it was just life got really heavy,
and you know, it was almost like just the last
straw for me. And you know, thankfully I had resources
like therapy and the support of friends and family to
help me start unpacking all the things that I was carrying.
But from there, you know, I really just started to

(03:50):
do the shadow work, you know, and for those of
you who don't understand what that is, it's just the
work on myself. I started unpacking the skeletons from my closet,
and in the process, you know, I really started realizing
that my self care was lacking. And I don't mean
like the surface level you know, get your hair done,
your nails done, things like that. I meant really the

(04:12):
things that were important to me, the things that brought
me joy. So I started building, you know, my my
self care up. And then I started realizing how many
other people could benefit from recognizing that, you know, the
surface level self care that they were doing just wasn't
really serving them. And you know, in my own journey,

(04:32):
I was able to reconnect with the things that really
made me feel alive, writing, journaling, paining, reading, just you know,
being a creative by nature. And so that's when I
realized that healing was not about surviving. That you know,
we were put here on this earth to do more
than survive. And you know, in that process, I started

(04:54):
rediscovering the parts of me that brought me peace, that
brought me joy, and that season of darkness really became
the soil of my purpose, like you know, where my
purpose started to grow, and I just decided to honor that.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, that's amazing. I love that so much because it
comes back to that saying pain, bringing your pain or
what is it? Turning your pain into purpose? And I
think that's a lot of people who end up finding
their purpose. It's like they have to go through some
kind of a catalyst, and it looks different for everybody.
Sometimes it's just like, you know, just realizing, oh, I

(05:33):
have shadow work, which first of all, I'm so glad
you brought that up, because a lot of people still
don't know what that is. And so I talk about
it a lot. With my work as a tower Reader,
it comes up a lot, and I have to before
I even go into it. I'm like, do you know
what shadow work is you and either all get the oh,
I know all about it, or I get the huh,

(05:55):
you know and explain it. But that's a big part
of just you know, like you said, you had what
is it the dark soul of the night? You have
to kind of go through and meet the parts of
you that you abandoned, that you thought were too much,
that you you know, just didn't want to touch because
you were told they were unlovable, and really just integrate
and bring it all back together and seeing those parts

(06:17):
of us is not easy for sure. So I'm glad
that you not only saw that, but again we're able
to come to the other side and realize, Wow, there's
so much more I can do with this information that
goes beyond me. And so like my definition of purpose is,
I feel like it's when you find the thing that
lights you up, Like you could just do it all
day long, and you would do it for free if

(06:38):
you could. Like that you just that's what it does
for you. But it gives back to the world at
the same time. And so it just sounds like you
found that. I would love to touch on self care
a little bit because that one is I feel like
that's still kind of a really muddy topic for a
lot of people, Like you said, either it's like the
bubble baths, so getting my hair dut or something, or

(07:00):
you know, like what would you how would you define
self care since it's it's one of a lot of
people have a hard time grasping.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, So, honestly, I believe that self care is the
anything that you do that brings you joy, the things
that bring you peace. And so for some people, a
shower is self care. And I'm not talking about just
the cleansing part, you know, where we clean our bodies,
but you know, the the spiritual cleans that can come

(07:29):
with that shower. You know, for some people it's just
taking a pause, doing the the mindfulness exercises where you
focus on your breathing. So, honestly, anything that you do
can be considered self care if it brings you joy
and peace while you're doing it. And that's just the

(07:50):
simplest way that I can explain it. And I think
that society over the years has made us think that
self care has to be some big, luxurious thing, and
it does have to be, So I try to keep
it as simple as possible, because again, it is honestly,
whatever brings you peace, whatever brings you joy. It's doing
the things that bring you back to your center, to

(08:11):
your calm, and just honoring who you are as a person,
not who everyone else wants you to be.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay, Yeah, that's probably one of my favorite definitions I've
heard so far on self care. Yeah, and I love
that because it's so it's like you said, it's really simple,
takes all of the guessing out. It's not like the journaling,
I mean, unless the journaling is it for the person, right, Like,
it's very individual. But it's not like you go to
like Burns and Nobles or something and there's like the

(08:39):
section or like, oh get the journal for self care,
the self care journal or you know, or there's just
all these like marketing tactics for self care that almost
makes it sound like it's super complicated. And yeah, I
like that a lot.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be. I think one
of the first steps that people honestly should realize is
that there are multiple pillars to self care. And basically
that just means it's broken down into several categories and
a lot of times we get so hyper focused in
one area, but when you think about self care. There
is a physical self care and that's just you kind

(09:13):
of listening to your body's needs, you know, making sure
you're getting enough rest, hydrated, you know, proper nutrition, exercise,
things like that. You have emotional self care and that
is you allowing yourself to feel and express emotions without judgment.
You could also put life coaching, therapy, journaling, affirmations in

(09:35):
there as well. We have a mental self care they
got to keep count. There's a mental self care and
that's you protecting your peace of mind. That's where our
boundaries come into play, mindfulness, your clarity practices. You can
also talk or put reading in there, like learning, so

(09:56):
like self help things. Then their spiritual self care. That
is where prayer, meditation, gratitude, all of that, you know,
falls into play. Let's see that's four five would be
social self care and so that's when you start to
not sure your relationships that pour back into you. So

(10:17):
we talk about community, building, family friends, things like that.
There is professional or occupational self care and with that
it talks about setting boundaries at work so that way
you have a work life balance. It's also where you
advocate for like fair treatment, taking breaks at work things

(10:39):
like that, so that way you don't lose yourself in
the job. There is financial self care, which is the budgeting,
the saving, releasing the shame that comes with money, and
you just kind of creating that stability practicing an abundance mindset,

(10:59):
because it doesn't mean you have to be rich, you know,
you just have to focus on the abundance. We always
focus on the things that we have a lot of
instead of the things that we're lacking. That was seven.
There's environmental self care, and that's us caring for the
space that we live and work. That's us giving back

(11:19):
also taking care of the earth that we live in.
You know, it's decluttering and just creating a peaceful environment
for yourself and for your family. And then lastly, the
ninth one is recreational or sensory, and that's where we
make time for the fun things, right the creating your hobbies,
the music, things like that. So I think once people

(11:42):
realize that there's multiple areas of self care, it makes
it easier to focus on them because again, we all
like different things. You know, what self care for me
may not be self care for you, and so it's
just really important to acknowledge that there are multiple you know,
areas for it.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
That is a really really great point again that like
I'm going to come back to me saying this again
that this was my favorite definition of self care so far,
because I've never actually heard it broken down so thoroughly before.
But all of that makes sense because it's, you know,
like you said, individually, we all have different lives, so
you know, look different aspects, but knowing that different aspects
in our own way is going to help create that

(12:24):
work life balance or that family life balance, you know,
where you're able to put yourself first to that way,
you can then be there for others in a more
productive way. And so I love I love that so much.
And I just had to comment on something when you
were talking about the financial pillar and abundance, and you know,
the first thing that came to me was your song,

(12:45):
which af Yes, it's just one of my favorite talk
live and listening too recently because it's just it really
kind of it flips it on, you know, talking about
all the different kinds of abundance and focusing on just
that positive side versus like you know, the negative self
talk that we have.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, and you know, rich As actually stands for recognizing
I'm healing and no I'm sorry, recognizing I'm capable of
healing and forgiveness. So that's what it means. And there's
a little teaser of that somewhere in the song. You know,
it's one of the little eggs that they say that
I dropped in the song. But it never had anything

(13:25):
to do with money. It just meant that, you know,
regardless of life, I'm rich, and it points out all
the different reasons why I feel like I'm rich.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So, yeah, that's amazing. I'm gonna listen to that song
totally differently now. Yeah. Yeah, So one thing I did
want to ask you, So, one thing I love with
your music and your songs is that it's all based
in forgiveness and healing aspect. So even some of your
more stronger boundary songs like cut Them Off or I

(13:57):
Can't only put I Am the Table, I almost to
put in that same category, but it's slightly different. It's
just it's all still focused on just you choosing you
and then but not like holding any kind of animosity
for your decision. It's just all about like obviously you
probably went through the stages of anger and you probably
went through you know, the stages of you know, maybe

(14:17):
not like animosity, but you know that that's just like,
oh my god, I'm so angry with what's going on.
But then it's like all of your music though, it
is more about getting to the other side and focusing
more on you. You're healing your forgiveness, You're you know, it's
not about them, It's about me in a like a
positive way. Right, how did you like transcend that? Because
I think while there's so much wonderful music out there
about the same journey, it still tends to be in

(14:41):
the you did this to me kind of framework, and
I love yours because it's all based and empowerment.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
So with the music, it's important for me to create music.
Initially it was for me to create music that was
kind of like life coaching to a beat, Right. I
just wanted to reach more people and help more people
to heal through things. And I'm a person who's very
growth oriented and I've been that way my entire life.

(15:09):
So it's not healthy for me to sit in a
dark space. And so if a person wrongs me, you know,
I acknowledge it. Okay he or she did or said,
you know what they did it is what it is,
I felt how I felt. Now I'm going to move
forward because I just don't want to sit in that

(15:29):
dark space. And the life Coach and Me kind of
takes over in the songs all the time, because we
can talk about the dark situations, we can talk about
all of the traumas and triggers, but I don't want
to leave people sitting there. I think that that's what
society has done to us over the years. It highlights
areas of darkness for people, or it calls out people's trauma,

(15:53):
but then it just leaves us to sit there and
figure it out on our own. And I just I
refuse to create something that does that as well. And
so whatever it is that we talk about, it always
has to end on a positive note. And I'm not
talking about like that fate kind of positivity. I mean,
I want people to really understand you can have you know,

(16:14):
have gone through abusive relationships and you know, all of
the other triggers and traumas and still choose happiness and
still choose positivity. I want people to really understand that
it is your choice, and it's your choice alone. So
everything that I write, you know, everything that I've written,
and everything that I choose to write in the future

(16:36):
is going to be along those lines of healing, because
you can't honestly say that you're healing if you're saying
stuck in the negative space or the dark space. So
I'm on a mission to heal and with that, you know,
and telling my story, it has to show growth and
fun fact, all of the music written by me are

(17:00):
literally pages of my journals and my diaries. So some
people write a book about their lives, well, my music
is my autobiography. So as you're listening to these, I
think that it resonates with people the most because it's
my story of what I went through in life. Every
single song is my story, and so as other people

(17:22):
listen to it, they can relate because it's it's real,
not just because it's what they're really going through, but
it's it was real to me, and so my heart
is in it, my soul is in it, you know,
and so it's easy for me to write it because
it's my lived experience. And then now with me being
a life coach, you know, I have additional experiences from

(17:42):
my clients, and so I'm able to write from their perspective,
which is why everything kind of you know, resonates with
multiple people because we're all going through it.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
That's amazing, that's really cool. And I can totally you know,
I can speak to that because there's just something about
your music that just I mean again, it's it's generalized
in that, like it's all about healing and overcoming as
a whole. But yeah, the heart and soul is really
what I think what keeps you know that in the lyrics,
Like your lyrics are just so on point. When I

(18:14):
first heard the song Queen Energy Only, whish for anyone
who's listening right now, if you have to pause this
and go listen to that song, do it. Let's called
Queen Energy Only and it's my room to breathe. And
I actually stumbled on it by accident, like I was,
I know that I recently put out a podcast kind

(18:36):
of sharing a little bit about my story going through
a recent breakup HNA, I was pregnant, partners not interested
in being there. So it's just been a lot to process.
And so I was posting just like a snippet of
of I wrote. I write poetry too, so I wrote,
like I put like a little snippet of my poetry,

(18:59):
which I think was something like you want so you
waged war, but I'm not here to fight your battles.
I'm here to claim my glory or something like that.
And so I was just looking for an Instagram song
to go with it. I was, you know, whatever, and
I stumbled on Queen Energy Only and I was like,
this is a good song, Like I'm really liking these lyrics.
And so after I posted it, I went and looked

(19:22):
for it on Amazon and found the whole song. And
I can't even tell you how many times. The first
time I heard it, I was just like yes, yes,
like out loud, like yes yes, yes to like all
the different phrases because your lyrics just really they're so potent.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Thank you so much. Like I said, I I'm always
honored when when people share their experience with the music,
because again I've clearly I've already experienced it. It's my journal,
it's something that I've already healed through. But to know
that my story resonates with other people, it's a reminder

(19:59):
for me on my journey, because again I'm still on
my healing journey. It's a reminder for me that I'm
not alone either, And I love the fact that we
get to heal out loud, like it is our choice
to heal out loud, So through your poetry, you know,
through my songs, things like that, we get to heal
in a community out loud. And sometimes our voice, So

(20:22):
your poetry or my songs, that's the voice for someone
else who hasn't found there yet. And so I love
being a part of that healing. I love, love, love
being a part of other people's journey in a positive way.
You know, we can be a part of people's journey
in a very negative way, but we get to choose to,

(20:43):
you know, do that, and so I'm happy to be
a healer.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, your music and your lyrics are definitely very very healing.
I mean, So I have a friend who I showed
cut them off to which was I mean, in the
moment I hear it, I was like, oh my god,
she needs to hear the song, you know, because it
really resonates with her personal family situation and she's already
on the other side of the boundaries. But I know

(21:09):
that she struggles with that, and that was just the way,
you know, you explain, like, hey, choosing you choosing, you know,
not let letting people walk over you or gas light
you or manipulate you. Like that's that's you choosing you.
You don't have to continue the story just because they're
family or just because you're you know, I know you
mentioned you know, love isn't it doesn't mean abuse. It's
like even if you're like in a long term relationship,

(21:30):
it doesn't mean you have to keep that person around,
you know. And so it's just very empowering. And another
another song that I really really like that you have
is I Am the Table. And I really like that
one because it's almost got like this aggressive undertone, but
the words are so positive. It's like, yeah, how did

(21:51):
you do that?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
It's so funny. So with that song, I think the
reason why it has the I don't want to say
aggressive side, but we'll say that for lack of me
having a better sern. You know how when you meet people,
especially like if you're dating, the people always want to
know what you bring to the table. I mean, even

(22:12):
down to applying for jobs and things like that. We
live in a society that wants to know what you
bring to the table. And I get so annoyed with
that question. Because it's like, if I applied for the job,
then you have a role that you need filled, and
so I bring me to the table, you know, And
so I always laugh because I'm like, it's me, I

(22:34):
am the table. What do you mean? You know? And
so when I wrote that that particular song is a
poem of mine, and it has evolved over the years.
So it started off very short, and then every time
someone would ask me that question, it would just get
longer and longer, you know, because I'm like, why do
people ask me this? And I noticed that I had

(22:57):
several different pages in my job. I thought, I am
the table, you know, and I'm like, well, what do
you mean? You know? And so it was just kind
of a way for me to talk my trash, you know,
without being like mean or disrespectful, but very clear on
my boundaries, to let people know that, you know, I
am a gift and that's something that you know, my

(23:19):
father taught me very early on that I am a
gift and if people don't value my presence in their space,
then there's no reason for me to be present.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I love that. I love that backstory, and I just
it's like one of my favorite songs, right now because
it's just it's so positive and it's so like encouraging
everyone else to learn that they already have a seat
at their own table and there's nothing but healing there
and you know, feast what was it feasting on? I
don't remember, but anyways, it's just it's it's so positive

(23:50):
and I love it so much because I think it's
maybe aggressive isn't the right word, but it's like maybe
just overly assertive, like like exclaiming, like reclaiming it. But
it kind of reminds me a lot of how I
read the Queen of Guands in Tarot, like the Queen
of Wands. She's like she's like everything I strive to be,

(24:11):
but she's a leader. She's passionate, but she's also graceful.
She knows who belongs at the seat at the table
in her life and who doesn't, right because she already
has her own table. It's like, okay, you're if you're
sitting here with me, it's because you've earned your seat
here kind of an energy. And also she also knows
her magic. She knows what she brings to the table

(24:33):
that is unique to her, that only she can do
in the way that she does, and so it's very
much like queening of Wand's energy. And I'm like, yes,
love that so much.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, and I wanted to go back, if you don't mind,
to mention and cut them off when you mentioned how
your friend has kind of gone through her own journey
with cutting people off and things like that. That song
kind of stemmed from another phrase that people say all
the time. When you hear people say, you know, blood
is thicker than water, and that gets under my skin

(25:07):
so badly because a lot of times our blood and
our family, unfortunately for many people, is where the toxic
energy and the abuse began. And so I did some
research and I realized that you know, blood is thicker
than water is not even the actual saying. The original
full proverb says that the blood of the covenant is

(25:29):
thicker than the water of the womb. And so if
you think about that, that completely flips the blood is
thicker than water, you know saying, because it was never
fully about you know, family being more important just because
their family, you know, it spoke to saying that our

(25:51):
chosen bonds, you know, the family that we choose, our friends,
things like that, those relationships that we intentionally commit to
often end up being the stronger ones than the ones
that were born into and so it was really important
for me to get people to understand that it's okay
to cut them off. You know, I don't care if

(26:11):
you share the same last name, if you guys share
the same DNA. If this person is hurting you, If
this person is you know, being abusive or manipulative, whatever
it is, and it's causing an unhealthy setting for you,
that is okay for you to walk away because at
the end of the day, you get to choose you.
You get to choose you all the time.

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Speaker 2 (27:27):
I love that one hundred percent and I'm very I
had to learn that through my own therapy. There's a
few people who I've I've had to go no contact
with and it wasn't easy. I was you know, lots
of guilt that goes in with that and having to
process it. But in hindsight, I know I wouldn't have
found the piece that I did if I kept them

(27:48):
in my life. And so it really speaks it's volumes.
When you're able to choose you and choose your peace,
then you you know, it might not immediately you're not
going to see the results because you're gonna have to
process that, right, the guilt, But when you're able to
look backwards and say, wow, look how much I've grown
because I didn't have this this environment or this person

(28:09):
impacting me negatively to the point where I couldn't grow.
And you know, it's also an interesting concept too, because
I've also learned that when you also are at a
place where you just don't care anymore what people think,
they tend to not and it's like a newer lesson
for me. So for me and my situation with you know,

(28:33):
being pregnant and now my partners not or my ex
partner is not in the picture, there's a lot of
stigma that comes with that. And so my post, well,
I'm not my post, but my previous podcast episode, it's
a very short I just put reclaiming my voice, and
I just reclaimed the narrative of you know what, I
am not going to be ashamed by what's by my situation.

(28:55):
I didn't make the choice to leave. I didn't make
the choice to not be here. I didn't do this
by myself, you know what I mean. And so I'm
not going to hide myself. But I'm going to continue
growing and evolving like I do and not let this
affect me like that. And I have more like distant
family that I don't normally speak to, and part of

(29:17):
it is is more of the boundary thing. And I
got invited to an outing recently and I was like,
it's funny because I didn't I totally forgot that I
put out that books. So it's like I didn't even
think about that big a topic and then I found
it later, like oh wait, the whole family knows. Okay,
you know, like all right, here I go. But I

(29:39):
already kind of went into it like I've already clanged
it back. I've already said my piece, and the people
who I really thought were going to have something negative
to say actually came up to me and said, you
know what, your post was so well spoken, and I
just wanted to honor that. And then and then he
went on to say something like I think your voice

(30:00):
is your talents, and I mean just really took me
by surprise, because I don't think I ever could have
imagined that kind of an interaction. But I think I
think it was because I went into it already like
you know what, I'm not gonna let whatever they say
get to me because I know my truth, and it
was like it radiated to them absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I mean, sometimes it just takes us to flip the script.
It's funny because I literally have a song called Flip
the Script and it talks just about this, and I
think in the chorus, let me see if I can
get this right, it says flip the script. I'm choosing me,
prioritizing my mental clarity. No more drama, no more weight.

(30:38):
I'm taking care of me. It's never too late. Flip
the script. Now I'm feeling free. So that's the part
where you experience you kind of put it out there.
Now you feel free, right, And then it says, I'm
boundaries up. Now I can breathe. I'm reclaiming all my health.
I'm flipping the script, and I'm healing myself. And so
the whole song just talks about the narrative that society

(31:01):
and our friends and our family have put on us
that has us scared to heal, It has us scared
to speak our truth. But when we finally flip the script,
you know, we find out how much lighter we feel,
how much easier it is to deal with life, because
at the end of the day, life is going to
keep lifing. There's nothing we can do about that. And
you know what, I wouldn't change it for the world,

(31:23):
because if life stops life in that kind of means
we're probably no longer breathing, and that's not what I want.
So I would rather find the good in all of
it than to you know, just sit and stay stuck
in it. Like I said, I don't want to survive,
I want to thrive.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm going to have to find that song.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, you'll love it. I promise you'll love it.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, because it really does. It makes a huge difference
because before I posted that, I didn't even know how
I was going to go public like I had. Now,
I will say I've had an amazing support system throughout
this this journey, which I'm so grateful because I don't
know if I would have been this strong if I
didn't have them, you know. And then like my daughter
of course has told the whole school at her school,

(32:07):
you know, but like I didn't care about that because
I'm like, I don't really know. I'm close to.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Any of them.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
They can know. But when it came to like presenting
it socially like to the public, I was like, I
don't know how to do this because there's so much again,
there's so much stigma that goes in as to my
current situation. You know, might as well hand me a
scarlet letter, right and right, and so I yeah, Like
that's when it just kind of thought, you know, what
what if I just take it back? What if I

(32:33):
just reclaim it. Then what are they gonna say?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Nothing they can say, There's absolutely nothing they can say.
And I love being unapologetic by choice, you know. And
that doesn't mean that you're rude. It doesn't mean that
you're reckless or you're being dismissive. It just simply means
that you've made the conscious choice to stop shrinking, to
stop silencing yourself, to stop hiding, stop apologizing for you

(32:59):
existing fully in your truth. And why does everyone else
get to walk around in their truth and we're expected
to hide? So no, we're not doing that anymore. Like
I'm unapologetic by choice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I even stole a quote. I don't know if you're
a band of Taylor Swift or not, but she just
recently did a podcast with or now with fiance, but
they did a podcast about a week ago or so,
and she had this quote that I was like, oh
my god, this is amazing. It was like, let's you
say it was you treat your time and your energy

(33:36):
like it's a luxury item, Like it's expensive, some people
can't afford it. Yeah, and I was like, yes, oh
my goodness, one hundred percent. So even in my post,
I was like you know, if you have nothing but
positive things to say about me, support, thank you. If
you don't have anything positive to say, I'm going to
take this quote from Taylor Swift. You can't afford by
energy right now?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Absolutely yeah. And I'm very big on time because time
is the one thing that we cannot get back. And
so you know, our days on this earth, as morbid
as this may sound, are numbered, right, we don't know
how much time we have here. And so I'll spend
time with you because then that means it's a positive

(34:17):
exchange of energy. So I can spend time with you
all the time that I will not waste time. I've
wasted too much time over the years, and so again
I know that my time is valuable and I understand
that how precious time actually is. So yeah, if you
want to pour into me, if you need me to
pour into you, I will spend time with you. I
will take up space with you. But if you want

(34:39):
to waste my time, and you know, wasting my time
includes being negative, trying to constantly remind me of who
I used to be versus who I am now, things
like that, then I just I don't have time for you,
you know, because again, if it costs me my peace
is too expensive, I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah. So yeah, you know, something I've learned in the
podcast and talking to different generations is I feel like
millennials gen z ers are like they're they're right behind us,
trying to even get more ahead than we were. But
I feel like that's been a lot of us. Millennials
is realizing that wait a second, our time is valuable.
Because we kind of watched and it's a little off topic,

(35:17):
we watched the gen Xeries. I watched the boomers like
work their life away, you know, not having boundaries right,
and millennials are like a lot of millennials are waking
up going what am I doing with my life? And
where am I spending my time? Where is my time going?
And trying to take back their time and ownership of it.
And I think gen z ors are just they're just

(35:38):
one step ahead because you know, they have a little
more wiggle room than we did. But yeah, I feel
like it's this new concept that like time is way
more valuable than the dollar.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Absolutely. Yeah, It's like we can make money again and again.
I know what to do to go out into the
world and make money. You know, I understand that supply
and demand, but there's there's no barter system on time.
I can't get that back. I can't give you that back.
You can't buy more, you can't earn more. You know,
when it's up, it's up. So we have to make

(36:12):
the best of it. And again, it's our choice. It
all goes back to being our choice of how we
want to spend our time exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
And that's something that I learned a long time ago
that I've just really just like rooted more into it
the older I get is our choice is our freedom
is realizing that how we respond to situations, what we
do with those situations, the choices we make, the decisions
we make, like that is what shapes our life. And

(36:41):
the more people learn that, the more accountability there is
a lot of people are terrified of the word accountability,
but it's like, no, that's actually where your freedom is
because when you're able to own that you are where
you are based on the decisions you've made in the past,
you have the choice to make different decisions today to
take you to a different place. And so it's it's

(37:02):
just like one of those things that I wish more
people learned and understood that concept because it's it's truly
what where freedom comes from.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, self accountability is a big thing that I work with.
I'm with my clients, you know, getting people to understand
the importance of eye statements. You know, you've heard the
saying when you point the finger three or pointing back
at you, you know, and so I tell people, even
in a situation, even if you're not the one who's
who's done something specifically, you still have to lead with

(37:32):
an eye statement because you know, when you're saying, oh,
so and so did this to me, Okay, well how
do you feel about it? Because that's honestly why you're
saying this person did something to you. So you have
to lead with the eye statement by saying, you know,
I felt like this when you said this or when

(37:52):
this happened. Otherwise you're just coming in in full attack
mode and nothing is going to get fixed. There's there's
going to be no resolution. So again, self accountability is
a huge thing that I really wish that people knew
more about and would embrace it more because, like you said,
there's so much freedom in it.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, there really really is. So would you say that
you found your purpose and everything that you're doing today.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yes, So that's a tricky question. Yes for now. Like
I believe that everything evolves, and so I truly believe that,
you know, my purpose is to use my voice in
every single form, and it is to help other people heal,
because you know, the days of hurt people hurting people

(38:40):
for me are over. I'm a hurt person who chooses
to help other people heal, you know. So whether it's
me coaching someone through setting boundaries, writing a song that
somebody feels in their soul, or even just creating a
space where people can just show up authentically and feel
seen and heard, you know that it's important to me

(39:00):
that that's what I believe my purpose is. So I
think that it's ever evolving because if I look back
several years, I wouldn't have seen the music, yeah, the blog,
the podcast part, maybe the life coaching. Yeah, But like
I would have never thought that I would be writing
music that people would be, you know, honestly healing too.

(39:24):
So I think that it's a process and I'm I'm
honestly excited to see where it goes next.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah. I really appreciate that answer a lot because it
on it evolves the way that I see it is
it's like there is always like a theme undercurring, right,
So for you, it's it's like empowering and giving space
for others and helping them heal is kind of like
seems to be your undercurrent theme. So everything you're doing
on top of it is part of that theme, right,
But it's it's you know, it shows up in different ways,

(39:55):
and so you know, like you said, who knows where
the music's gonna go. But I would like to touch
on and share a little bit about something that you
shared pre recording that I think is really fascinating. So
the lyrics are yours, the beats are yours, but you
said that the voice isn't, So can we talk a
little bit about that.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah, absolutely, because I believe in being transparent. Initially, when
I started writing music for Room to Breathe, it was
only supposed to be music for me to utilize in
my podcast because, as you know, as a podcaster, we
always have issues with copyright. So I was like, well,
I just want to make music that I can play

(40:33):
during my podcast. And so I had sat down with
my business coach and I'm like, well, how can I
do this? You know, and she's like, oh, well, we
can use AI because we use a lot of AI tools,
you know, to kind of help, you know, just keep
our lives organized. Right. You can't show up in the
world and be this amazing person that everyone thinks you
are and not have some type of help. So she

(40:56):
showed me how I could use AI to generate the voice,
and I'm like, Okay, that's perfect because you know, I
don't want to go to the studio and spend a
bunch of money to have somebody sing a song that
I'm just using in a podcast.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
And so when I started the first time I started
using the music, I had an insane amount of numbers
of people in the podcast that day, and I couldn't
understand it, like what's going on here? And it was
like they weren't even focused on when I was talking about.
Everybody was in love with the music, and so they're like, oh,

(41:32):
where can I find it? Where can I find it?
So I'm like, okay, give me, give me a minute.
Prayed on it because I'm a big believer in praying
before you act. So I prayed on it and I'm like, okay,
I can put it on my website. So then it
got to the point where I had it on my
website and then people were like, well, no, we want
to pay you for it, and I'm like, what, Like,
I'm just trying to give it to you. You know,

(41:53):
what do you mean? You know? And so I prayed
on it because I felt guilty, you know, and they're
and okay. The download that I received from the universe
at that point was no, it's okay, Like, I'm setting
you up to have this, but you know, sleeping back
kind of income, So it's okay for you to put
a price on it. It is a gift. It is.

(42:14):
You wrote the song, you produce the beat. You should
be compensated. So I'm like okay. Then people were like, oh,
I wish I could hear this on Spotify, and I'm
like okay. Like it just kept evolving as it went,
and so again it's important for me for people to
understand that, you know, I did not do this to
pretend that it's me. I'm not a singer. Anytime someone

(42:38):
asked me. In all the comments, you will see me
say I'm not the singer. And I tell people the
voice is not a particular person, it is Ai. Because
I wanted people to focus on the message. You mentioned
this earlier. I wanted people to focus on the lyrics.
I didn't want you to have to see the person,
because sometimes when we see the person, we get lost

(42:58):
and what we're supposed to be focusing. So it's not
about the image that you see in front of you.
It's not about who's singing it. I have never had
a plan on going on tour. There will be no
room to breathe concerts unless an artist wants to sing
the song and they do it on their tour, you know.
But I just wanted to again put the music out

(43:18):
there to allow people to heal, you know, And it
was the creative way for me to be able to
do that and reach millions of people. And when I
tell you, my music is played globally, it is played
and loved by people in countries where I don't even
speak the same language they do, but I get messages
from them that I have to translate, with people sharing

(43:42):
their stories and I don't know how they understand it.
I don't know if there's some translation floating around for them,
but it lets me know that contrary to the you know,
the AI bashing people of the world that the mission
was accomplished as far as you know, just sharing it

(44:03):
and having something out there for people to heal from.
So yes, room to breathe. Music, all the words, all
the lyrics are written by me, from my journals, from
my poetry, from my lived experience. The beats are even
created by me. And then I use AI technology to
generate the voice that you hear, because trust me, you

(44:23):
would not listen to it if I sang it. Okay,
I reserve my voice for the shower and the car.
That's all well.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
First of all, I mean thank you for being transparent
and brave in this, because there are artists who probably
would have felt ashamed or afraid or whatever else. But
I mean when you told me that, I remember, like
it didn't even phaze me because, like you said, it's
the lyrics. The lyrics are so potent and AI. Okay,
So that's a whole other topic that we probably could
have a conversation on for another hour or so, you

(44:53):
know what I mean. You know it's a tool, and
I know there's a lot of haters on it, but
when you use it as a tool that it can
do amazing things, And in this case, it's literally helping
you transcend your your lyrics into something powerful that is
making like moves in the world. You know, like that's
amazing that it's being heard in different countries and you

(45:14):
know you're able to see in real time the impact.
And I mean I could tell you, like I said,
just listening to your album, it's it's been so healing
for me and for those that I've shared it with.
So it's like, if you didn't use that as a tool,
how many lives would have not been impacted in the
way that they were able to So it's like, em besides,

(45:36):
you know, well let's not even pretend that all the
other artists out there are using you know, some kind
of AI tool on their voice anyway.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
So absolutely, yeah, And that's the thing that I think about,
you know, even in the studio. And this is not
taking away from the singers of the world, right, I
don't compare myself to that. We're not the same, you know,
And so people have to understand that technology has evolved
over the years. People use auto tune. You know, if

(46:05):
you were to listen to some of these singers outside
of the studio, you would be like, what, like, is
that even the same person and even in the concerts
there are artists that just sing over their own track,
you know, things like that. So unfortunately for the AI haters,
I'm sorry to tell you that AI is here to stay.

(46:26):
I know it could become you know, overwhelming for some people,
or it's a shock. But I was born when you know,
we didn't have internet period. There was no World Wide
Web when I grew up. So I've seen everything evolved
and I've kind of you know, evolved with it, and
I just think that that's the thing that people need
to understand when it comes to AI. It's just a

(46:48):
part of evolution. And the beautiful thing is you can
choose to get with it or you can choose to
get left behind because it's here. And I think that
as long as people use it responsibly. You know, if
if if I was putting the music out there and
then not giving people the disclaimer, hey I use that voice,
you know, or if I was claiming to be the singer,
but like at the end of the day, I responsibly said,

(47:11):
I am the songwriter. Yeah, you know, I produce to
be I am the songwriter. But again, it's just like
everything else in my life. You can feel how you
want to feel about it. It's my life, it's what
I chose to do. And you know, like I said,
I operate under the guidelines that I need to, you know,
to even put the music out there. So if it

(47:34):
blesses you, fine, and if it doesn't, that's fine too well.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I think it's blessing more people than anyone anything else,
so keep doing it, like.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
So from here, I'd love to switch to what I
like to call synchronicity story time. It's really one of
my other favorite segments of this podcast is because I
feel like we get to talk about real life magic,
you know, when things just fall into place magically, or
doors open or you know anything that like you look
back and you're like, I cannot believe that happened, but
obviously it happened for a reason. Do you have any

(48:07):
stories like that you could share?

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Honestly, probably the music when I think about primarily walking
in my purpose. It's so funny with that song. It
initially well when I even first did the album, that
was my husband's favorite song, and I'm like okay, and
he just kept running it into the ground with me, like, oh,

(48:31):
this is going to be your number one song. This
is the song. This is the song, and I'm like,
I don't feel that way about the song, you know,
like I like it, but like that's not my favorite.
And so he just kept doing that, and you know,
after a while, I'm just like, you know, whatever, you
know how we just kind of say whatever heavy, like
no one cares, you know. And so that song started

(48:54):
blowing up and I didn't even realize it, like it
went viral, and I had no idea, you know, because
again I didn't put the music out to be seen.
You know, it was an outlet and it was you know,
more for other people who wanted to, you know, heal
with it. So when the song went viral, and all
of a sudden, all my friends started sending me videos

(49:16):
that other people, you know, they would scroll online and
they would see other people who would use my song,
and I'm like, wow, you know, so I see other
people like using it, and then it broke like one
hundred and something thousand uses on TikTok. Then I figured
out how to go over to like I had to
learn how to see the statistics on these things. And

(49:38):
so when I you know, started going to like TikTok
and YouTube and things, like that. To see it, I
was like, oh my God, like people really love this song,
and you know, it's all the music collectively, but that
song Walking in My Purpose was like the one that
blew up. And it was so funny to me because again,

(49:59):
the song is talked about walking in my Purpose, you know,
it talks about the story of me actually walking in
my purpose, you know, and me choosing to prioritize me
and you know, to be obedient to what God is
calling me to do. And now the last album I
released on July, the fourth, Queen Energy Only, in one month,

(50:24):
that song has almost done what Walking in My Purpose
took a year to do, and that's insanity, you know.
So it's like it's just again a reminder for me,
and Queen Energy Only is the same concept of you know,
just embracing who you are and that I'm not going
to allow, you know, the reckless negativity to consume me.

(50:49):
I'm a queen, so I'm only going to act like
a queen and I'm going to carry myself like a queen,
you know, things like that. So it's just the empowerment
behind it. But just knowing that my journal and my
diary is causing such a positive impact in the world.
It's still crazy to me, like it is. It is
still surreal to me, and it and it feels really

(51:11):
good because you know, like you when you hear a
song and you love it and you're like, oh, that's
my song, you know, But when I say that about
these songs, I'm like, no, really, that's that's my song.
That's my story, you know, So it just hits a
little differently.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I Yeah, that's that story. Gave me chills. And I
love the fact that it was that your song that
blew up first was walking in my purpose because it
almost felt like, you know, God higher power was highlighting
you're walking in your purpose right now with the song
you know. Yes, yeah, it's like a double meaning right there.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Yes, absolutely, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So the final question I like to last ask everybody,
what is the legacy that you'd like that you you know,
want to leave behind for future generations, especially with the
word that you're putting out in the world.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
I think it would just simply to but I guess
just to kind of share the message for everyone that
you are worthy, you know right now as you are,
not when you're healed, you know, not when you're successful,
not when you've checked off every single box on the list.

(52:25):
I would just want more people to understand that your
worth is non negotiable. You know that it's your birthright,
you were, Your worth was established at birth, and you know,
for people to I guess, not let the world convince
you to shrink, to settle, or to silence yourself. I
think it's important for people to take up space to

(52:47):
protect your peace and to always remember, you know, that
they deserve to breathe. Like I always say, you know,
remember to take up space and that to make a
little room for you to breathe. It's kind of my
tagline that I say all the time. But everyone does
deserve to breathe, to heal, and to just be free

(53:09):
from all of the hurt, all of the negativity, all
of the pain, and for people to truly understand that
you don't have to be the hurt person anymore, you
don't have to live in that circumstance that you can
choose a better life for yourself. So I just want
people to continue to heal out loud and to heal,

(53:32):
you know, together in a community, because I think that
that's what it takes for us to change the world.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
That's an incredible answer. And I really like that because
it's like, and I've seen the change. I mean, if
you think about how people operated just fifteen years ago,
people weren't as open about their healing journeys or about
you know, claiming their power or empowerment. Like, it's definitely
a newer thing that's taking hold, and I feel like

(53:59):
the more we can put that out there, the more
healed or future generations are gonna be. And you know,
especially when you when you operate from a place of empowerment,
there's no room to cut anyone else down, right, it's
just you're in your power, and then it's easier to
help lift other people and help them be empowered and
be in that in their power, and it kind of

(54:19):
it releases competition, It releases you know, the this need
to be better than somebody else. It's like, no, we
are all one and the same. We all have our
own magic and our own gifts and our own uniqueness,
but we're also all human, you know, and no one
is better or lesser than And so I love what
you're putting out in the world with you know, all
the empowerment and the story of like you can reclaim

(54:42):
yourself without apologies. It's beautiful. And I mean the fact
that my nine year old loves your album as much
as I do, you know. I mean, I'm in my thirties,
so for me, it's it's like I'm unlearning a bunch
of things. But when you think about like the children
of the world right who are hearing these songs, now,
they're gonna grow up hopefully with more of that, you know,

(55:03):
that empowerment and boundaries before they ever need to go
through like the things that like me or you or
other people our age may have gone through. So it's yeah,
it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Yeah, and it's I mean, and it's very important that
we start with the kids. You know. I have a
great niece that lives here with us. She's three, and
she will literally tell you respect my boundaries, you know,
like I pour that into her, because if we would
have had that growing up, we would not have probably

(55:32):
endured so much of the toxic things that we tolerated
for so long. I even wrote a kid's album to
teach children about self care. Yep, it's what's the name
of the album. It's it's called Inspired Kids, and there

(55:54):
are songs about boundaries, feelings, like, you know, the children
to understand that their feelings are valid, you know, think
about it as a kid growing up, and honestly, probably
as a mom because I know I'm guilty of this.
You know, my son will cry and I'm like, oh,
tough enough, it's okay, not realizing how toxic that really is.

(56:15):
I'm silencing his feelings, you know, things like that. So
there's a song about feelings, boundaries. We talk about self care,
a lot of empowerment, you know, I love myself or
it's ilov me, I Am amazing. So like all filled
with affirmations. So these kids are running around and they're singing,

(56:37):
but they don't realize they're reciting affirmations. And I'm a
firm believer that we speak life over ourselves. Why not
have the baby speak life over themselves? And they don't
know it's a catchy beat. They're just dancing, you know,
and most of the adults are loving it too.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
It's like you'll listen to the kids album and you're like,
oh that was for my daughter. Okay, well I like
it too, you know, but it talks about bullying. There's
even one called just Breathe and it is a guided
breathing meditation, and I'm like, kids need to understand how
to control their breath, so they need to be able
to process their emotions too. Otherwise we have just mean

(57:15):
bullies in the world. You know, if these kids just
learned how to process their emotions, you know, it would
be a lot easier for them to kind of get
through the situations that they go through too. So when
I say I create music for all levels, young and old,
and you can play all of it and it's all
safe for everyone, yeah, I mean I have the kids
vibe into letting go of toxic energy, and I'm like,

(57:37):
you ain't even got no toxic energy in your life,
but sing it anyway, you know, well, preparing them.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
For saying no. When it does try and show.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Up right exactly, they're like, no, I heard that song.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I want to check that out because I've been wanting
to find something because my daughter, like, she's one of
those kids that just lights up a room. I know
I'm super biased because she's mine, but you know she
does like like this. I'm kidding you. Most of the
staff knows her by name and not because she does
things she shouldn't be doing. It's just that's just her
personality and she just has so much faith in everybody.

(58:12):
And right now she's dealing with some bullying and it's
been really frustrating because these are her friends or her friends,
you know, when as a parent, it's really hard because
one day these kids are being super fine with her
and another day they're being like super mean to her.
And I'm like trying to find the right words to
teach her, like, you know, one, those aren't really your

(58:33):
friends if they can, but I also know they're elementary
school and they can be you know, elementary school and
kids can be cutthroat too, you know, even it's hard
to imagine, So it's like, in what are they going through? Right?
So it's like that balance between like teaching her to
stand in her power, you know, and so I'm we're
going to be looking at that for sure.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Yeah. And the R. S P. E. C. T. Song
is the one that kind of gets on bullying, but
it's that mutual respect, you know, And of course it
talks about you know, when someone's trying to bully me,
you know, I'm going to stand in my power, like
you said, and I'm not gonna let people do this
to me, you know, So, yeah, it doesn't on a

(59:15):
level that I think is something that they can understand.
You know, I made it as simple as possible. I
basically went back to my roots of being a kindergarten teacher,
you know, and I was like, Okay, I wish I
would have had this for my kids when I taught,
you know, or even raising my son. But yeah, I
try to, you know, make it as simple as possible

(59:37):
for them to start to really be able to understand,
if nothing else, for them to learn how to just
advocate for themselves. It's not going to make the bullies
go away, but at least your daughter will be able
to advocate for herself, to process her feelings and her
emotions to you, to staff members, and even to her friends.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, and I will say, like right now she does that.
The staff members have been amazing, Like she's an after
school program, and you know, they actually have a calming
box and it has different tools in there, and so
when she has a rough day, she'll go and talk
to the staff and go sit with her calming box.
And so she does seem to have that kind of
support too. But I think I want more of that,

(01:00:14):
like confident you know, like the you can say what
you want, but that's not going to impact me, Like,
that's what I want for her. So I'm so looking
forward to checking out that album. Yes, So how can
our listeners find you? I mean with your music, Like,
where can they find your music? And then if they
want to work with you as a coach or listen
to your podcast, how can they find you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
So I made it very simple for everyone. My website,
which is www dot self Care club dot org, is
like your one stop shop for all things self care,
which means it will tie you into every single thing
for me. You will be able to access the music,
the podcast, the blog, just all things. We also have

(01:00:58):
a virtual community that is open for everyone because again,
we believe in healing and community and sometimes we just
need a safe space to land. You're having a bad day,
you want to you know, kind of go and invent
about it, but not stay in that negative space. There's
always going to be someone there to help you kind
of process how you're feeling and to choose you know,

(01:01:19):
the positive side of things. So yeah, I would honestly
say the best way to reach me and connect, even
to book your coaching sessions, is to go to Self
Care Club dot org and you can check out everything
there and then you can also connect with me one
on one there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Perfect. I'll be sure to put all that in a
show notes so they can they can find your website easily.
And yes, check out her music, you guys, please.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Yeah, and I invite everyone to. You know, I'm the
person who reads the messages. I'm the person who responds
to the messages. So wherever you land, whether it's the podcast,
the blog, the music, wherever it is, if something resonates
with you leave a message, I respond.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yes, I can attest to that. You responded to me
on YouTube, yes, yeah, And so the thing goes. Before
I even followed you on Instagram and reached out to
ask you to be a guest, I just I was
just like, oh my gosh, this is so amazing, this
is so healing. And then I got a direct response
from you and it felt really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
So yes, yeah, I think it's important because again, we
all just want to be seen and heard. And so
you know, it may take me a week depending upon
where I am in the schedule, because I'm all of
these things that I'm doing. It's me, you know, the
person behind the scenes of it all. But I do,
like I said, believe that everybody deserves to be seen

(01:02:37):
and heard, and so as long as I have the
ability to do so. Like I said, it may take
me a week sometimes to reply, but I'm always going
to reply.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Thank you for just for being you, for offering what
you do and putting out your heart and soul into
the world and all the ways that you do. And
thank you so much for joining me today. Like this
has been such a special episode and I'm just so
excited that I got to have you on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Thank you, thank you so much. Like I said, I'm
honored to be here and I look forward to future
collaboration as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
So thank you, thank you for joining me on another
inspiring episode. Remember your purpose is a unique and unfolding path.
I hope these conversations have ignited a spark within you.
Until next time, keep exploring, growing, and embracing the beautiful
adventure of connecting with your purpose. Stay tuned for more

(01:03:26):
meaningful conversations. If you enjoyed the episode today, don't forget
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