July 9, 2025 • 37 mins
In this episode, my guest Jason Moore receives a Tarot reading focused on his business and purpose. While his question was more general, the cards brought forward powerful insight around owning his unique skillset and releasing the need to explain or justify how he does what he does. The message encouraged him to trust in his natural gifts, lean into what he does best, and remember that the results he creates are the proof—no explanation or certificate needed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Spotlight, where each week a guest takes center
stage for an intuitive tarot reading. You'll get a front
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the magic of tarot together. My goal is to create
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(00:22):
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without further ado, let's meet this week's guest.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Thank you so much for joining me for another episode
of Spirit Journey Collective. I have a really great guest today.
His name is Jason the Diceman Moore. I'm so happy
to have you here today to experience a reading.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Thank you for being here today, Jason.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Same, yeah, absolutely so. I know we talked a little
bit pre recording. You wanted to just see what comes through.
We're not going to put any kind of focus point
on your reading.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So while I.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Shuffle, why don't you to share a little bit about
you and your thoughts or experiences of Tara so.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Far, as Sarah already said. My name is Jason Knure,
Jason the dice manmore. I'm an entrepreneur. I've got a
relatively new business. I've been ready for about a year,
fellow podcaster. I have multitude of interests, calligraphy, reading, collecting,
first editions, collecting watches, multifaceted, love to podcast, love to share.
(01:29):
My core focus is relationships, platonic relationships, helping people because
I can look at it from outside of the relationship,
you know. I like to use that to help people
understand where they're going. Maybe I can suggest or help
running through other scenarios so there's not so many arguments.
(01:50):
Maybe maybe save our relationship or two. Alumnois I love that?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And then what is your experience with taro if any.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I've seen lots of people do it. I'm sort of
a skeptic. I believe that there are people who can
do it, but I believe most are part of me
for the crap. But I believe that the people who
do it for real do it for heart.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, I know what you mean by that.
It's interesting because my thought process, but I'm in this
world right, so it's a little different. I think that
most intuitives are doing it from the place that I
want to help people, and I think the smaller percentage
is the ones that are full of crap, but I
do it is something to be careful of. Especially the
(02:33):
ones I really recommend looking out for are those that
literally say, oh, I'm right all the time. And if
I say that, you know, or if they're trying to
push something onto you, like, oh, well, this says that
this is going to happen, so you know what I mean,
versus like, I don't believe anything set in stone, and
I do believe that people who tap into certain futures
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are tapping into a certain timeline, so to speak, where
it is a potential, but it's always a potential, you know.
And if someone wants you to tell them like, oh, yeah,
you're going to meet the love of your life at
two pm on a Thursday in January and a train station,
like I'm not saying that that's not gonna happen, but
that those absolute specifics are usually like red flags to
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me to that.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Degree, especially when the person said, but I can't be
there because at two o'clock on that day, I'm scheduled
to fly somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Right, it's a.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Few bad apples that make the bunch look.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Bad exactly, but you know, to be fair, that's also
in every field too, which is why I also like
to point out. But yeah, so this is an interesting
reading and kind of doing the bird's eye view. It
definitely feels like there's going to be some some heavy points.
But I always believe that all cards are medicine, so
everything comes up for the greater good, right, It's always
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coming up for us, not to us. Sometimes heavy means
more emotional or more traumatic. In this case, it's more
like something like, I feel like there's some toxic elements
that are trying to come to your attention, which could
be like in the form of limiting beliefs, or it
could be in the form of something that's just got
to go.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
But that's what I mean, but we'll get to it.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Some readings energetically they feel very positive, and then some
readings energetically, I don't want to say they feel negative,
but they feel challenging. And I guess that's what I
would mean by heavy is it's leading a little bit
more in the challenging than the positive.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Now, thank you for.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Asking me that though, because I was like, wait, hold on,
how do I describe this? Okay, so I'm going to
go over a theme, past, present, future energies, and then
higher self messages. Feel free to common as it go,
or if you have questions, you know, you can also
ask questions like don't be afraid to interrupt me. So
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your theme is the Ten of Swords. So I really
like this theme for a couple of reasons. It's this
is one of the more could be referred to you
as heavier. I mean, I love this picture because sometimes
the pictures in this particular card is a person with
ten swords in them, like on the ground, which is
that looks kind of like, oh my god, this one
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is it doesn't have that look to it. And I
like this because this really emulates what it means a
little bit better, which is the ton of Swords is
about evolution. It's about going beyond a belief system that
you carried for a very long time. And so the
Swords suit in general is all about the mind. It's
all about the stories, the narratives, the lens. That's the
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way that we see things. And so the Ten of
Swords is basically it's coming to an end, like some
kind of lemoning belief, some kind of narrative that you've
been telling yourself has basically reached its limit. And so
I like to compare this card to a snake, because
when a snake grows, it has no choice, but the
shedded skin, it really.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Doesn't have a choice.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The skin is coming off, and sometimes it sheds perfectly
like you have like a full other little snake shape
based off their skin, and sometimes it needs help. Sometimes
this can get stuck on the way off and you
need to kind of help help it take it off
because it's it's not coming off as easily. And so
I love this isn't reverse because I'm not feeling resistance
around it, but it is saying that there are belief
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systems that you've carried, probably for most of your life,
because that's how belief systems usually work, that you're starting
to realize aren't really serving you anymore. They've been there
for a while and now you're like, this is this
doesn't feel right anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So it's peeling off.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And so it's just saying that you're at this point,
you're in the stage of your life where you're letting
things go that just you're starting to see this doesn't
this belief, this narrative, this view that I've carried for
a very long time, it's no longer serving me. So
I'm going to just let it go. And so that's
the evolution and the growth piece. But be mindful if
you do start to notice anything getting stuck, you know,
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that's that's kind of the flip side of it, is
just watch for anything that's stuck because that's going to
need a little more help to peel it off. That's
the theme, and I'm we'll get to the present in
the second, but I can definitely see that there's a
lot of growth happening in your life right now. So
it's you're just in the space where you're allowing it
to happen, is what I'm feeling like, Like, you know,
you're going through a growth spurts, so you're just leaning
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into that.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
In answer to that, I will tell you for the
last many years, I've been on continual growth. I don't
limit anything. If something's going to come in and change,
I don't fight it. Whether it's a relationship or a
belief system or where I live. You know, if something
has to change, I'm now open mind enough to just
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let it be what it's going to be fits perfectly.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So looking at your recent past or this could be
I want to say recent, it could be the last
few months, it could be the last like one to
two years. But like that's kind of like the recent timeframe.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
We have the aid of Swords, and so this one
does speak to that somewhat.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
In the recent past you were really struggling with I
don't know if it was a an error in your
life or just as a whole, but you were feeling
kind of trapped, like your hands were tied, like you
didn't really know how to move forward and something. And
so when it comes to the aid of Swords, it's
the whole idea because again coming back to the swords
being about the mind, it's when you feel trapped but
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you're not actually trapped. It's when you were thinking there's
only one way forward and you're like, crap, that door
is blocked, like how am I going to get out,
and then realizing that, oh, there's an open window right
next to it, but I'm not seeing the open window
because I'm so locked in on the door. And so
it's a mind thing. It's about realizing, like you're not
actually trapped. There's several ways forward. You look at the
(08:38):
bird's eye view and you're like, oh wait, I thought
there was just one way. I could see twenty different
routes to get where I want to go and to
get through what I'm going through. So in the past,
there was a time where you really had to kind
of like release those those chains of your mind that
were basically trying to tell you this is how you
do things and if you can't do it this way,
then you're stuck and realizing wait, no, I'm realizing that
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that's actually not true. And so that's the space you're
coming from. And then again the theme now is like
and I don't know if they're speaking to each other
or if they're just separate instances, but that you know
that do blend but are separate. But I'm definitely feeling
like before it was this idea of I'm trapped, and
then now you're in the space, like you said, where
you're like, well.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm going through another grossbert.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
There are certain things that are no longer serving me
that I have to go through and take inventory of,
right and figure that out. So moving into the present,
So this is interesting to me these two cars that
came up because I pulled one that was a clarifier.
So the car that I got in the present is
the Page of Pentacles reversed. And then the clarifier I
pulled is the chariot reversed.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So what does a clarifier do.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It just gives me more information, so I kind of
know like what, like what direction it's speaking to. So
that way like I yeah, so like to me, if
I don't have like a pinpoint of whoa wait, what
is that car speaking to, I'll pull a clarifier to
cut it expand on like the direction of it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So this is super interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The Page of Pentacles is what I like to call
the purpose card. It's like finding the thing to commit
to that just lights you up, that you love to do,
that you can do all day long, you know, if
like whether you got paid or not, you're just like,
I love this, this is my thing.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
This is the thing that lights me up.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And it's reversed, which means on some level it's like
you know what the thing is, but you're not really
fully committing all your time to it. It's like you
like it, you want to do it more, but for
some reason, it's like orbiting you, but you're not fully like, Okay,
let's dive in and let's fully do this, let's fully
integrate it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's like you're aware of it, you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like it, you want to bring it in more, but
you're kind of like maybe later, I don't know, you know,
that's kind of I'm getting like it's there and it's
wanting to connect with you. And so it's interesting for
the clarifier, the Chariot, which is also reversed this one.
It's similar to the ton of Swords, but energetically different.
The ton of Swords is more about belief systems, narratives
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and those things that you're releasing. The chariot is in itself,
is more about like actual taking action growth. It's about
like physically taking up the space to own it, if
that makes sense. So the narrative, I mean, the analogy
I use for this is a crab. So you put
a crab in a terrarium, it's not going to grow.
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In fact, you could put a new shell in there,
but it's it's only gonna go in if it's the
same size as the shell it's coming from, because it's
not going to grow. It's confined. You take a crab
in the ocean. Now it's kind of like a snake
in that eventually it's going to grow. It doesn't necessarily
have to change shells, though. It can stay in the
one it's in and just be really cramped. And sometimes
we choose that because it's comfortable. Sometimes we like the
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cramped shell because hey, we've been in the shell for
a few a few years now, and it's kind of
like when you're in a home that you really.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And you're like, this is cozy, Yeah, this is good, you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Know, but then eventually you might get to the point
where it's just you're just cramped. And so the invitation
is you can stay in that cramped shell, or you
can go find a bigger one. But what happens when
you find a bigger one is now you actually have
to rise to the occasion and grow into it.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And that part's scary for a lot of people because.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
They don't, you know, it's like I don't know how
to do that, or if i'm not, what if I
get into that shell and now I can't actually grow
into it the way that I would need to, And
now I'm out that shell and now I'm here with
a big clunky shell, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Like, there's different ideas of that, but.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We're another version of another story I like to share
with this one is you have these two plants that
are in a pot in a garden, and one plant
is like, well, this is my home, this is where
I want to live. The other plant sees a tree
that's out in the field, it's not even in a pot,
and that plans like, I want to be out in
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the field. I want to be in this pot anymore.
And the other plant is like, well, we're in what
are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
We're stuck in the pot. So the plant started growing.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It grew so much that the that the gardener was like, oh,
you need a bigger pot put in. The bigger pot
kept growing, so eventually it got put out in the
field because the pots couldn't house it anymore. But it
has to be a choice to grow. And so it's
interesting that this is the clarifier for the page of Pentacles.
Is it It almost feels like whatever that thing is
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that you really love and that you you feel drawn to,
but in some way it's it's like on some way
you're in some level you're playing small around it. It's
kind of what's coming up, and it's kind of that
fear of like leaving behind the shell that's comfortable to
go into that shell where you know you're gonna have
to make up space and grow into it. And so
there is resistance. And that could be even why you
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love that thing and you want to integrate more, but
that could be like mentally why you haven't fully said, okay,
let's let's do it.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And so it's it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I find that that is because the present always ties
into the theme, and the theme is also about growth,
but it's about growth around the mind. So that tells
me that likely there is some kind of a narrative
or belief system around either taking up space or letting
this thing fully into your life. And it could range
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from it can range from a lot offerent reasons, but
I do feel like there's a reason these two growth
cards are like meshed together in the present that you're
kind of being called more to put more energy into
that thing that you really love and that you want
to and to see where it takes you. But it
does it is going to take an element of rising
to the occasion and an element of growth to do.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That now because it's upside down? Does that change anything?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So? Yeah, So the upside down it comes in a
couple different ways, and it just kind of depends on
what I pick up. For me. Most of the time,
upside down is resistance. Sometimes it speaks to awareness. So
it just kind of depends on what I'm feeling in
them moment.
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Speaker 2 (15:54):
So moving into the near future, which again I guess
I don't believe a sentence though. This is like a
projection of what's to come as of now if nothing changes,
or another way I like I've heard it described is
it's kind of like the Ghost of Christmas future in
the Christmas Carol, because you know, he sees in his
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projected future that he's dead and no one's there to
see him, but then he comes back to the present
and changes everything, which means when he eventually does die,
he's not going.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
To die alone like that, right, because he.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Took he took that projected future and was like, oh no,
I'm going to change that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
So it's that same idea like the future.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's just as of now, this is what to be
mindful of, but it's not set in stone. And I
really like the two of these that came up. I
think it's definitely speaking to whatever it is that is
mentally possibly holding you back from that purpose card. So
the first one, the near future card, is the Nine
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of Wands reversed, and then the higher Self message to.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
That is the Tower, So the.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Nine of WANs reversed. This one is a don't give
up card and a persevere card, and like you got
this card. It's letting you know, like you see that
destination you want to get to. Yeah, no, don't give up.
It's still it's still very much a possibility. Like there's
nothing that says you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You can do it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
You got it. You might just have to push yourself
a little harder, but you got this. When it's reversed,
and in general, one of the meanings of this too
is also remembering to.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Take breaks along.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The way too, because sometimes, especially when it's reversed, it's
almost like this idea of like steamrolling your way there,
and this one's like it's a marathon, not a sprint.
So if you have to camp for the night, that's okay.
You know, it's not going to keep you from getting
to your destination. So that one, as as a whole,
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I feel like it's just say you know that this
kind of this journey of growth is like yeah, no,
you're you'll be fine. Just make sure you take care
of yourself along the way and don't give up and
understand that there's some things that have got to go
because the tower, which is the higher self message to
that this card often gets a bad reputation because it
comes with chaos a lot of times, not always, not always,
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but it can. And so I like.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
To compare this.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Have you ever seen the movie in Canto by chance?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh, okay, it's a great Disney movie.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know, I'm such a mom, but that movie demonstrates
the Tower perfectly.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
So I like to compare if your life or like
a house.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Basically, the Tower comes as an earthquake and your house
falls down, and I think, naturally we're like, oh okay,
we have to rebuild it, and we rebuild it, but
we're not a lot of times we don't go to
the foundational roots. We just build on top of what's
already there. And the Tower is specifically speaking to the
foundational roots. So if something is rotting in the roots
of your house, it doesn't matter how many time rebuild it,
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A bigger earthquake is going to come and knock it
back down. And that's what the Tower is saying. And
the thing about the Tower is it's almost like you
no longer have a choice. You have a choice, but
the longer you resist it, the bigger the earthquakes are
going to get, and the bigger the chaos and the
bigger the destruction. And yeah, so that's kind of so
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when the tower comes up, it's more like a what
is rotting and the foundation that could be. And I'd
like to say this too, because this usually helps people
kind of hone in on what it is. Every time
you think you're getting ahead, it's that thing that kind
of sneakily comes up and knocks you back down. And
it's so it's it's just it could be. Sometimes it's
a person, sometimes it's an environment. Sometimes it's just a
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really nagging, limiting belief that hasn't been like removed yet,
that's been there. Probably usually limiting beliefs have been there
your whole life, and sometimes they're sneaky. Sometimes you don't
even know they're there, and then you're like, wait a second,
you know, but it's just doing the in the near
future you're And I feel like part of this is
definitely speaking to what's like the beliefs that are holding
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you back from that thing that you really love to
do and you want to do more of, if that
makes sense, Like it's it's it's like all interconnected, is
what I'm feeling. So two guards in the middle, we
have the seven of Swords and the Seven of Cups.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So the Seven of Cups, it's possible that you're still
trying to figure out what.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That thing is that really lights you up.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
But it's possible that it's just orbiting you and you
you're trying to decipher it, just because the Seven of
Cups does usually speak to like trying different things and
being more open to like and so kind of what's
coming to me from that is it's like, I think
you have the right field or or like generality interests
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that you have. I think it's more like niching down.
I think that that's what it's speaking too. Is it's
like you kind of know where you want to go,
but you don't have like a specific like plug in
that fully is where you want to be entirely.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So I feel like this is more about niche. It's
kind of what I'm getting from that.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
But so you think this is more business or personal?
What's your opinion?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm thinking so I'm thinking it's a little bit of both.
I definitely think possibly more business because purpose doesn't always
have to be business related, although a lot of us
time to tend to put them together. But I am
kind of feeling like this is more business or entrepreneurial
like endeavors, and then I think the personal side is
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like what needs to be removed to get there. So
I do think that from what I'm seeing here, I
do feel like this is more business slash like entrepreneurial related.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
But there's something in my personal life that holding me back.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and that could just be beliefs too, I mean,
you know what I mean, Like that could be I mean,
it could be a person or an environment like that
could be an element of it. There's a lot of
swords here, which also tells me there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Of mind stuff too, and very analytical.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But yeah, So the Seven of Cups, it's kind of that.
One's all about like kind of test tasting or like
trying different things that way until you you know which ones.
So like if it is, for instance, like niching down,
try different niches, see which ones fit, see which ones
really don't fit, you know what I mean, It's it's
like kind of like just play with it a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Referencing the past. Reason I'm asking is because when I
developed like my my my medicinal o ointment for Donald's pads, noses,
and dress spots. I went through multiple Like, I didn't
make a lot of recipes. I broke a lot of
things down molecularly and seeing what would bond and what
would also be most beneficial to the application I'm applying
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it to, and then I end up making about eight
to ten different recipes to see which one was the one.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I don't think so just because there's because there is
a pass card on the table and usually everything else
is a little bit more present related mineus the future card.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I use that as an example because I'm coming out
with a different product and I'm going through the same
process now okay, and I'm kind of stuck.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh well that yeah, no, that actually explains a lot.
So yeah, in that regard, it could be the same
idea that you're you're trying different things because you've already
done that. So it could definitely be that same thing, like, hey,
keep doing that, like you might feel stuck, so now
it's time to keep playing with what you have before
you get to the right thing. But yeah, this it
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tends to be more present, So it tends to be
more like either invitations for what to do in the
present or the energies you're in. So so I would
say this is more like a invitation to what to
keep doing. And then the card next to it is
the Seven of Swords. This one it does tie a
little bit into some of these other swords ones. The
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Seven of Swords usually comes with feelings of imposter syndrome
to a point, like kind of like not feeling like
you're enough or that you're inadequate or don't have everything
you need in some capacity, which isn't true, but it's
definitely this idea of I'm not measuring up in some capacity,
and it's usually there's an element of comparing on some level.
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So that's here too, which could be part of what
you're what it's saying needs to be removed and outgrown.
It could also be when it comes to this right
next to the Seven of Cups. It could also be
when it comes to trying different things, there could be
maybe a part of you that's like, oh, well, I
don't know what I'm doing, maybe like I don't have
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a degree, or you know, like I don't I don't
know if it's something like that, because there's those who
are side by side, so it could be like bouncing
off of that, like feeling like when being stuck like
I don't know how to make this happen. I don't
know how to really go from this to success, you know,
kind of like the other one was a I got lucky,
you know what I mean? Like it could be something
like that too, where it's not that's not true. I
mean you you created that, but it is with it
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being right next to the seven of cups. I do
feel like it's speaking a little bit to like your
mindset around trying to really niche down on what the
thing is and the imitation is playing with it and
you know, trying different things.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
So to answer that statement, I've never thought like anyone
was a fluke because I put hard work into it.
But I am very often find myself in the thought
pattern of Okay, I don't have a degree in this,
I'm not a micromiologist. How am I able to mix this?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Like?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Why do I understand this? Why am I able to
break things down to the molecular molecular level? And okay,
I'm not like in my basement beakers and such breaking
them down. I'm looking online the basic components and breaking
it down to basically molecularly to say, okay, this bonds
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with this, so if I put them together, it will
create this and amplify this benefit. And then if I
add this in, but I don't, and I'm actually questioning
myself because I don't know how I understand that.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, okay, so what came to me while you were
sharing that with me is these two cars well, actually
three cards just came up in my mind. That's already here.
So this one the purpose card being reversed. That could
be part of you not fully embracing it as like
you're the work that you're doing in this could very
Is it something that you really really enjoy when you
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kind of get to be that investigator and play with
it and kind of figure out like, oh, if this
this happens and that like that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Kind of you love the process.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yes, yeah, so, and then with the chariot reversed, taking
up space and rising to the occasion, both of them reversed.
I'm wondering if some of that is those beliefs of well,
I didn't go to school.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
For this, who, like, why am I.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
With? What makes me credible in what I'm doing? Obviously,
the answer is the fact that so many people are
happy with the product, and so many people are wanting
more like that's your validation of Oh well, I don't
really know where this is coming from, but obviously it's
working and it's making a difference. And so I feel
like that's the belief system that wow. Like it's just
it's funny when I when I get certain pieces, it's like, oh,
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all the pieces are coming together.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's like, that's the belief system.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think is that this idea that you don't understand
how it works, so you don't want to fully claim it.
And that's where the rising to the occasion would be
and the mental growth you're you're growing whether you want
to or not, Like that's that's what's happening. And so
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it's just this idea of like owning it and saying like, Okay,
I don't really know why this lights me up, and
I love the process and it seems to all come
together at the end, but it does.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And I think that that's see that when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Purpose, the way that I believe purpose is is it
it's when you're plugged into something that's bigger than you
in a sense. And I know for you it's more
like the collective consciousness, right, Like that's your belief is
that you're plugged, but you're again it's like coming from
somewhere else. It's not coming directly from you. You're just
kind of the vessel. It's that same idea, but you
also have to own the part that you're the vessel.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I also believe that, like I start the process and
through that the information to figure it out is funnel
through me.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, that's that's exactly how it is with my ratings.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I cannot tell you, like, even before I read for
you initially, like I'll look and I'll glance and I'll
be like, God, I don't even know where to begin. Like,
I can't tell you how many times I do that.
Sometimes I pull up the cards and I'm like, oh,
I know where this is going, you know, And I
don't have to, you know. But most of the time
I'll look and I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna
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start talking. And then and then it's just it's just unfolds.
And I really do believe it's because something else. I'm
choosing to be that that channel for the person that's
asking with that intention, I'm having that intention of just
being that channel, and then it just unfolds and I
don't even know how it works, and it sounds like
a similar process, even though it's a totally different product
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and thing that you're putting out. It's that same thing
where you're almost surrendering to something else. You're first making
the connection with the intention, and then everything else just
kind of opens up.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Enough.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, So is this your first harror reading? Yes, Okay,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
It's cool, I'm enjoying the process.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Okay, awesome, So that that was everything that came through,
and I do feel like, yeah, so I do feely
is business related, especially usually when the purpose cards on
the table, Like I guess I don't always like to
attribute it to business just because everyone's different, but most
of the time it is because the page of Pentacles
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Pentacles is so it's a little small lesson with Tarot.
Every suit has a different element attached to it. So
Pentacles is Earth, and so Pentacles is a lot of
times it has to do with money or tangible things
you could touch, and you know, so Pentacles often does
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come with money and some degree usually which is a
you know, career business like all that's kind of in
the tangible realm, so words, which is what came up
a lot for you too.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Is air the.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Mind, so it's the and then cups there is water emotions,
and then ones which had a little bit of one
in there. Ones is like the passion, the creativity, the
the action piece. So they'll have different different pieces, but
usually the page of Pentacles is speaking to some kind
of a business career thing. And that's what I was
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getting from this was that it was a lot of
kind of holding yourself back in and not fully like claiming.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
What you love to do.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
And so yeah, so can I ask you a question? Okay,
So from the other interviews or readings that I've watched,
what ask this? So I'm going to ask you, Okay,
could you put my reading into a few sentence paragraph
of what you think the overall story of it is?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, absolutely, So I would say the overall story is,
like I said before, the with the purpose card. I
think a lot of it is learning how to claim
what you love to do and own it in a
way where you're not trying to like understand it and
dissect it. So I think the understanding and dissecting it
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is where your mind is going. Well, I don't understand
why this is working which is fully like kind of
almost like making you push. What I'm feeling is it's
almost like it's pushing you fully owning your purpose, like
it's there, you love it, but you're like, I'm going
to keep you over there because I don't understand you.
And I feel like a lot of the growth is
around opening your mind, to letting that in, into taking
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the space, into owning it completely, because that's a lot
of what I'm seeing. I mean, the only other thing
that's a little off is the Seven of Cups. But
I feel like this was thrown in there for you
because you're feeling stuck.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's like, hey, remember this worked last time, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I feel like that's what that piece was for because
everything else here is all about releasing things that don't
serve you growth and pushing forward and changing your beliefs.
So so I don't know if that was one paragraph.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's perfectly explains a lot of It tells me that
don't worry about why you can do it, just except
that you can't do it right exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
And there's a big part of when you when you
fully embrace your purpose, you're fully committed to it, and
there's no there's no like separation anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You're not like you're able to just be like embody it.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Basically like, I am good at making these particular products.
I don't know how, but the how doesn't matter because
the success of validation speaks for itself. And I love
doing it because my definition of purpose is that it's
something that lights you up.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
You love it, you could do it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
All day long, kind of a thing, and it gives
back to the world in some way, and that's exactly
what your product is doing. Now.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I love that I can help animals. I think it's
so cool.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, and you've mentioned some people are using it too.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I've I wasn't a huge fan of animals up
until we got Tobias pup, and but once we got him,
everything totally changed one hundred percent. I always I always
put forth the opinion that you know, animals, because they
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don't live along with us, are just pain because you
listen too early, you get attached and then they're taken
away from you. But now I've seen them more as
growth channels and companions. And if I can help make
somebody else's animals life that much easier, that means they
can take more time just enjoying the relationship there with
their animal. They don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, you definitely have to let me know when it's
when it's in the US, so I can share about
it on my page.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So yeah, well, thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And for being open to a reading, and yeah, this
is this has been great.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Thank you very much for the reading. This was, as
as I said earlier, my first experience, and it's quite enjoyable. Yeah,
it would be interesting to do it in like six
to eight months again and see if something's changed or yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's funny because sometimes, oh my gosh, I'm
gonna tangent. So I'm gonna make this quick because this
is our this episode is already longer than it should be.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But I can't tell you how many times people will
come to me for reading.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Maybe I'm the first time, it's the first time they're
seeing me, but they'll say, oh, I saw a psychic
or I saw terry reader, or I saw someone six
months ago or a year ago, and they said the
exact same thing, you know, and that's just for them, like, hey, hey,
there's something here that you haven't done anything with We're
just gonna break it back around, do you know what
I mean? Because like you mentioned, and I fully believe this,
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we're all of our we have the collective consciousness, we're
all connected on some level. So it would make sense
that what comes up is something that's already come up before,
if it hasn't changed yet, that needs to be changed.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yes, So take action, actually do something.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You know. And everyone has their own journey too, like no, no,
no judgment. Sometimes it takes people several times to learn,
and that's part of their journey too.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Everyone has their own pace.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well, and judgment belongs to the courtroom, and labels belong
on products.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
All right, Thank you very much and I look forward
to nex time.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
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Welcome to Spotlight, where each week a guest takes center
stage for an intuitive tarot reading. You'll get a front
row seat to a real recorded session as we explore
the magic of tarot together. My goal is to create
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and I'll be in touch about getting you on Now,
without further ado, let's meet this week's guest.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Thank you so much for joining me for another episode
of Spirit Journey Collective. I have a really great guest today.
His name is Jason the Diceman Moore. I'm so happy
to have you here today to experience a reading.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Thank you for being here today, Jason.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Same, yeah, absolutely so. I know we talked a little
bit pre recording. You wanted to just see what comes through.
We're not going to put any kind of focus point
on your reading.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So while I.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Shuffle, why don't you to share a little bit about
you and your thoughts or experiences of Tara so.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Far, as Sarah already said. My name is Jason Knure,
Jason the dice manmore. I'm an entrepreneur. I've got a
relatively new business. I've been ready for about a year,
fellow podcaster. I have multitude of interests, calligraphy, reading, collecting,
first editions, collecting watches, multifaceted, love to podcast, love to share.
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My core focus is relationships, platonic relationships, helping people because
I can look at it from outside of the relationship,
you know. I like to use that to help people
understand where they're going. Maybe I can suggest or help
running through other scenarios so there's not so many arguments.
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Maybe maybe save our relationship or two. Alumnois I love that?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And then what is your experience with taro if any.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I've seen lots of people do it. I'm sort of
a skeptic. I believe that there are people who can
do it, but I believe most are part of me
for the crap. But I believe that the people who
do it for real do it for heart.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, I know what you mean by that.
It's interesting because my thought process, but I'm in this
world right, so it's a little different. I think that
most intuitives are doing it from the place that I
want to help people, and I think the smaller percentage
is the ones that are full of crap, but I
do it is something to be careful of. Especially the
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ones I really recommend looking out for are those that
literally say, oh, I'm right all the time. And if
I say that, you know, or if they're trying to
push something onto you, like, oh, well, this says that
this is going to happen, so you know what I mean,
versus like, I don't believe anything set in stone, and
I do believe that people who tap into certain futures
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are tapping into a certain timeline, so to speak, where
it is a potential, but it's always a potential, you know.
And if someone wants you to tell them like, oh, yeah,
you're going to meet the love of your life at
two pm on a Thursday in January and a train station,
like I'm not saying that that's not gonna happen, but
that those absolute specifics are usually like red flags to
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me to that.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Degree, especially when the person said, but I can't be
there because at two o'clock on that day, I'm scheduled
to fly somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Right, it's a.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Few bad apples that make the bunch look.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Bad exactly, but you know, to be fair, that's also
in every field too, which is why I also like
to point out. But yeah, so this is an interesting
reading and kind of doing the bird's eye view. It
definitely feels like there's going to be some some heavy points.
But I always believe that all cards are medicine, so
everything comes up for the greater good, right, It's always
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coming up for us, not to us. Sometimes heavy means
more emotional or more traumatic. In this case, it's more
like something like, I feel like there's some toxic elements
that are trying to come to your attention, which could
be like in the form of limiting beliefs, or it
could be in the form of something that's just got
to go.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
But that's what I mean, but we'll get to it.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Some readings energetically they feel very positive, and then some
readings energetically, I don't want to say they feel negative,
but they feel challenging. And I guess that's what I
would mean by heavy is it's leading a little bit
more in the challenging than the positive.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Now, thank you for.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Asking me that though, because I was like, wait, hold on,
how do I describe this? Okay, so I'm going to
go over a theme, past, present, future energies, and then
higher self messages. Feel free to common as it go,
or if you have questions, you know, you can also
ask questions like don't be afraid to interrupt me. So
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your theme is the Ten of Swords. So I really
like this theme for a couple of reasons. It's this
is one of the more could be referred to you
as heavier. I mean, I love this picture because sometimes
the pictures in this particular card is a person with
ten swords in them, like on the ground, which is
that looks kind of like, oh my god, this one
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is it doesn't have that look to it. And I
like this because this really emulates what it means a
little bit better, which is the ton of Swords is
about evolution. It's about going beyond a belief system that
you carried for a very long time. And so the
Swords suit in general is all about the mind. It's
all about the stories, the narratives, the lens. That's the
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way that we see things. And so the Ten of
Swords is basically it's coming to an end, like some
kind of lemoning belief, some kind of narrative that you've
been telling yourself has basically reached its limit. And so
I like to compare this card to a snake, because
when a snake grows, it has no choice, but the
shedded skin, it really.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Doesn't have a choice.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The skin is coming off, and sometimes it sheds perfectly
like you have like a full other little snake shape
based off their skin, and sometimes it needs help. Sometimes
this can get stuck on the way off and you
need to kind of help help it take it off
because it's it's not coming off as easily. And so
I love this isn't reverse because I'm not feeling resistance
around it, but it is saying that there are belief
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systems that you've carried, probably for most of your life,
because that's how belief systems usually work, that you're starting
to realize aren't really serving you anymore. They've been there
for a while and now you're like, this is this
doesn't feel right anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So it's peeling off.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And so it's just saying that you're at this point,
you're in the stage of your life where you're letting
things go that just you're starting to see this doesn't
this belief, this narrative, this view that I've carried for
a very long time, it's no longer serving me. So
I'm going to just let it go. And so that's
the evolution and the growth piece. But be mindful if
you do start to notice anything getting stuck, you know,
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that's that's kind of the flip side of it, is
just watch for anything that's stuck because that's going to
need a little more help to peel it off. That's
the theme, and I'm we'll get to the present in
the second, but I can definitely see that there's a
lot of growth happening in your life right now. So
it's you're just in the space where you're allowing it
to happen, is what I'm feeling like, Like, you know,
you're going through a growth spurts, so you're just leaning
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into that.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
In answer to that, I will tell you for the
last many years, I've been on continual growth. I don't
limit anything. If something's going to come in and change,
I don't fight it. Whether it's a relationship or a
belief system or where I live. You know, if something
has to change, I'm now open mind enough to just
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let it be what it's going to be fits perfectly.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So looking at your recent past or this could be
I want to say recent, it could be the last
few months, it could be the last like one to
two years. But like that's kind of like the recent timeframe.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
We have the aid of Swords, and so this one
does speak to that somewhat.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
In the recent past you were really struggling with I
don't know if it was a an error in your
life or just as a whole, but you were feeling
kind of trapped, like your hands were tied, like you
didn't really know how to move forward and something. And
so when it comes to the aid of Swords, it's
the whole idea because again coming back to the swords
being about the mind, it's when you feel trapped but
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you're not actually trapped. It's when you were thinking there's
only one way forward and you're like, crap, that door
is blocked, like how am I going to get out,
and then realizing that, oh, there's an open window right
next to it, but I'm not seeing the open window
because I'm so locked in on the door. And so
it's a mind thing. It's about realizing, like you're not
actually trapped. There's several ways forward. You look at the
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bird's eye view and you're like, oh wait, I thought
there was just one way. I could see twenty different
routes to get where I want to go and to
get through what I'm going through. So in the past,
there was a time where you really had to kind
of like release those those chains of your mind that
were basically trying to tell you this is how you
do things and if you can't do it this way,
then you're stuck and realizing wait, no, I'm realizing that
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that's actually not true. And so that's the space you're
coming from. And then again the theme now is like
and I don't know if they're speaking to each other
or if they're just separate instances, but that you know
that do blend but are separate. But I'm definitely feeling
like before it was this idea of I'm trapped, and
then now you're in the space, like you said, where
you're like, well.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm going through another grossbert.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
There are certain things that are no longer serving me
that I have to go through and take inventory of,
right and figure that out. So moving into the present,
So this is interesting to me these two cars that
came up because I pulled one that was a clarifier.
So the car that I got in the present is
the Page of Pentacles reversed. And then the clarifier I
pulled is the chariot reversed.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So what does a clarifier do.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It just gives me more information, so I kind of
know like what, like what direction it's speaking to. So
that way like I yeah, so like to me, if
I don't have like a pinpoint of whoa wait, what
is that car speaking to, I'll pull a clarifier to
cut it expand on like the direction of it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So this is super interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The Page of Pentacles is what I like to call
the purpose card. It's like finding the thing to commit
to that just lights you up, that you love to do,
that you can do all day long, you know, if
like whether you got paid or not, you're just like,
I love this, this is my thing.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
This is the thing that lights me up.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And it's reversed, which means on some level it's like
you know what the thing is, but you're not really
fully committing all your time to it. It's like you
like it, you want to do it more, but for
some reason, it's like orbiting you, but you're not fully like, Okay,
let's dive in and let's fully do this, let's fully
integrate it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's like you're aware of it, you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like it, you want to bring it in more, but
you're kind of like maybe later, I don't know, you know,
that's kind of I'm getting like it's there and it's
wanting to connect with you. And so it's interesting for
the clarifier, the Chariot, which is also reversed this one.
It's similar to the ton of Swords, but energetically different.
The ton of Swords is more about belief systems, narratives
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and those things that you're releasing. The chariot is in itself,
is more about like actual taking action growth. It's about
like physically taking up the space to own it, if
that makes sense. So the narrative, I mean, the analogy
I use for this is a crab. So you put
a crab in a terrarium, it's not going to grow.
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In fact, you could put a new shell in there,
but it's it's only gonna go in if it's the
same size as the shell it's coming from, because it's
not going to grow. It's confined. You take a crab
in the ocean. Now it's kind of like a snake
in that eventually it's going to grow. It doesn't necessarily
have to change shells, though. It can stay in the
one it's in and just be really cramped. And sometimes
we choose that because it's comfortable. Sometimes we like the
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cramped shell because hey, we've been in the shell for
a few a few years now, and it's kind of
like when you're in a home that you really.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And you're like, this is cozy, Yeah, this is good, you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Know, but then eventually you might get to the point
where it's just you're just cramped. And so the invitation
is you can stay in that cramped shell, or you
can go find a bigger one. But what happens when
you find a bigger one is now you actually have
to rise to the occasion and grow into it.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And that part's scary for a lot of people because.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
They don't, you know, it's like I don't know how
to do that, or if i'm not, what if I
get into that shell and now I can't actually grow
into it the way that I would need to, And
now I'm out that shell and now I'm here with
a big clunky shell, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Like, there's different ideas of that, but.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We're another version of another story I like to share
with this one is you have these two plants that
are in a pot in a garden, and one plant
is like, well, this is my home, this is where
I want to live. The other plant sees a tree
that's out in the field, it's not even in a pot,
and that plans like, I want to be out in
(12:58):
the field. I want to be in this pot anymore.
And the other plant is like, well, we're in what
are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
We're stuck in the pot. So the plant started growing.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It grew so much that the that the gardener was like, oh,
you need a bigger pot put in. The bigger pot
kept growing, so eventually it got put out in the
field because the pots couldn't house it anymore. But it
has to be a choice to grow. And so it's
interesting that this is the clarifier for the page of Pentacles.
Is it It almost feels like whatever that thing is
(13:29):
that you really love and that you you feel drawn to,
but in some way it's it's like on some way
you're in some level you're playing small around it. It's
kind of what's coming up, and it's kind of that
fear of like leaving behind the shell that's comfortable to
go into that shell where you know you're gonna have
to make up space and grow into it. And so
there is resistance. And that could be even why you
(13:50):
love that thing and you want to integrate more, but
that could be like mentally why you haven't fully said, okay,
let's let's do it.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And so it's it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I find that that is because the present always ties
into the theme, and the theme is also about growth,
but it's about growth around the mind. So that tells
me that likely there is some kind of a narrative
or belief system around either taking up space or letting
this thing fully into your life. And it could range
(14:21):
from it can range from a lot offerent reasons, but
I do feel like there's a reason these two growth
cards are like meshed together in the present that you're
kind of being called more to put more energy into
that thing that you really love and that you want
to and to see where it takes you. But it
does it is going to take an element of rising
to the occasion and an element of growth to do.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That now because it's upside down? Does that change anything?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So? Yeah, So the upside down it comes in a
couple different ways, and it just kind of depends on
what I pick up. For me. Most of the time,
upside down is resistance. Sometimes it speaks to awareness. So
it just kind of depends on what I'm feeling in
them moment.
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Speaker 2 (15:54):
So moving into the near future, which again I guess
I don't believe a sentence though. This is like a
projection of what's to come as of now if nothing changes,
or another way I like I've heard it described is
it's kind of like the Ghost of Christmas future in
the Christmas Carol, because you know, he sees in his
(16:15):
projected future that he's dead and no one's there to
see him, but then he comes back to the present
and changes everything, which means when he eventually does die,
he's not going.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
To die alone like that, right, because he.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Took he took that projected future and was like, oh no,
I'm going to change that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
So it's that same idea like the future.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's just as of now, this is what to be
mindful of, but it's not set in stone. And I
really like the two of these that came up. I
think it's definitely speaking to whatever it is that is
mentally possibly holding you back from that purpose card. So
the first one, the near future card, is the Nine
(16:51):
of Wands reversed, and then the higher Self message to.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
That is the Tower, So the.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Nine of WANs reversed. This one is a don't give
up card and a persevere card, and like you got
this card. It's letting you know, like you see that
destination you want to get to. Yeah, no, don't give up.
It's still it's still very much a possibility. Like there's
nothing that says you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You can do it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
You got it. You might just have to push yourself
a little harder, but you got this. When it's reversed,
and in general, one of the meanings of this too
is also remembering to.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Take breaks along.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The way too, because sometimes, especially when it's reversed, it's
almost like this idea of like steamrolling your way there,
and this one's like it's a marathon, not a sprint.
So if you have to camp for the night, that's okay.
You know, it's not going to keep you from getting
to your destination. So that one, as as a whole,
(17:53):
I feel like it's just say you know that this
kind of this journey of growth is like yeah, no,
you're you'll be fine. Just make sure you take care
of yourself along the way and don't give up and
understand that there's some things that have got to go
because the tower, which is the higher self message to
that this card often gets a bad reputation because it
comes with chaos a lot of times, not always, not always,
(18:16):
but it can. And so I like.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
To compare this.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Have you ever seen the movie in Canto by chance?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh, okay, it's a great Disney movie.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know, I'm such a mom, but that movie demonstrates
the Tower perfectly.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
So I like to compare if your life or like
a house.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Basically, the Tower comes as an earthquake and your house
falls down, and I think, naturally we're like, oh okay,
we have to rebuild it, and we rebuild it, but
we're not a lot of times we don't go to
the foundational roots. We just build on top of what's
already there. And the Tower is specifically speaking to the
foundational roots. So if something is rotting in the roots
of your house, it doesn't matter how many time rebuild it,
(19:01):
A bigger earthquake is going to come and knock it
back down. And that's what the Tower is saying. And
the thing about the Tower is it's almost like you
no longer have a choice. You have a choice, but
the longer you resist it, the bigger the earthquakes are
going to get, and the bigger the chaos and the
bigger the destruction. And yeah, so that's kind of so
(19:21):
when the tower comes up, it's more like a what
is rotting and the foundation that could be. And I'd
like to say this too, because this usually helps people
kind of hone in on what it is. Every time
you think you're getting ahead, it's that thing that kind
of sneakily comes up and knocks you back down. And
it's so it's it's just it could be. Sometimes it's
a person, sometimes it's an environment. Sometimes it's just a
(19:45):
really nagging, limiting belief that hasn't been like removed yet,
that's been there. Probably usually limiting beliefs have been there
your whole life, and sometimes they're sneaky. Sometimes you don't
even know they're there, and then you're like, wait a second,
you know, but it's just doing the in the near
future you're And I feel like part of this is
definitely speaking to what's like the beliefs that are holding
(20:09):
you back from that thing that you really love to
do and you want to do more of, if that
makes sense, Like it's it's it's like all interconnected, is
what I'm feeling. So two guards in the middle, we
have the seven of Swords and the Seven of Cups.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So the Seven of Cups, it's possible that you're still
trying to figure out what.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That thing is that really lights you up.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
But it's possible that it's just orbiting you and you
you're trying to decipher it, just because the Seven of
Cups does usually speak to like trying different things and
being more open to like and so kind of what's
coming to me from that is it's like, I think
you have the right field or or like generality interests
(20:59):
that you have. I think it's more like niching down.
I think that that's what it's speaking too. Is it's
like you kind of know where you want to go,
but you don't have like a specific like plug in
that fully is where you want to be entirely.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So I feel like this is more about niche. It's
kind of what I'm getting from that.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
But so you think this is more business or personal?
What's your opinion?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm thinking so I'm thinking it's a little bit of both.
I definitely think possibly more business because purpose doesn't always
have to be business related, although a lot of us
time to tend to put them together. But I am
kind of feeling like this is more business or entrepreneurial
like endeavors, and then I think the personal side is
(21:46):
like what needs to be removed to get there. So
I do think that from what I'm seeing here, I
do feel like this is more business slash like entrepreneurial related.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
But there's something in my personal life that holding me back.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and that could just be beliefs too, I mean,
you know what I mean, Like that could be I mean,
it could be a person or an environment like that
could be an element of it. There's a lot of
swords here, which also tells me there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Of mind stuff too, and very analytical.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But yeah, So the Seven of Cups, it's kind of that.
One's all about like kind of test tasting or like
trying different things that way until you you know which ones.
So like if it is, for instance, like niching down,
try different niches, see which ones fit, see which ones
really don't fit, you know what I mean, It's it's
like kind of like just play with it a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Referencing the past. Reason I'm asking is because when I
developed like my my my medicinal o ointment for Donald's pads, noses,
and dress spots. I went through multiple Like, I didn't
make a lot of recipes. I broke a lot of
things down molecularly and seeing what would bond and what
would also be most beneficial to the application I'm applying
(23:02):
it to, and then I end up making about eight
to ten different recipes to see which one was the one.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I don't think so just because there's because there is
a pass card on the table and usually everything else
is a little bit more present related mineus the future card.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I use that as an example because I'm coming out
with a different product and I'm going through the same
process now okay, and I'm kind of stuck.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh well that yeah, no, that actually explains a lot.
So yeah, in that regard, it could be the same
idea that you're you're trying different things because you've already
done that. So it could definitely be that same thing, like, hey,
keep doing that, like you might feel stuck, so now
it's time to keep playing with what you have before
you get to the right thing. But yeah, this it
(23:51):
tends to be more present, So it tends to be
more like either invitations for what to do in the
present or the energies you're in. So so I would
say this is more like a invitation to what to
keep doing. And then the card next to it is
the Seven of Swords. This one it does tie a
little bit into some of these other swords ones. The
(24:13):
Seven of Swords usually comes with feelings of imposter syndrome
to a point, like kind of like not feeling like
you're enough or that you're inadequate or don't have everything
you need in some capacity, which isn't true, but it's
definitely this idea of I'm not measuring up in some capacity,
and it's usually there's an element of comparing on some level.
(24:37):
So that's here too, which could be part of what
you're what it's saying needs to be removed and outgrown.
It could also be when it comes to this right
next to the Seven of Cups. It could also be
when it comes to trying different things, there could be
maybe a part of you that's like, oh, well, I
don't know what I'm doing, maybe like I don't have
(24:58):
a degree, or you know, like I don't I don't
know if it's something like that, because there's those who
are side by side, so it could be like bouncing
off of that, like feeling like when being stuck like
I don't know how to make this happen. I don't
know how to really go from this to success, you know,
kind of like the other one was a I got lucky,
you know what I mean? Like it could be something
like that too, where it's not that's not true. I
mean you you created that, but it is with it
(25:22):
being right next to the seven of cups. I do
feel like it's speaking a little bit to like your
mindset around trying to really niche down on what the
thing is and the imitation is playing with it and
you know, trying different things.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
So to answer that statement, I've never thought like anyone
was a fluke because I put hard work into it.
But I am very often find myself in the thought
pattern of Okay, I don't have a degree in this,
I'm not a micromiologist. How am I able to mix this?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Like?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Why do I understand this? Why am I able to
break things down to the molecular molecular level? And okay,
I'm not like in my basement beakers and such breaking
them down. I'm looking online the basic components and breaking
it down to basically molecularly to say, okay, this bonds
(26:19):
with this, so if I put them together, it will
create this and amplify this benefit. And then if I
add this in, but I don't, and I'm actually questioning
myself because I don't know how I understand that.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, okay, so what came to me while you were
sharing that with me is these two cars well, actually
three cards just came up in my mind. That's already here.
So this one the purpose card being reversed. That could
be part of you not fully embracing it as like
you're the work that you're doing in this could very
Is it something that you really really enjoy when you
(26:54):
kind of get to be that investigator and play with
it and kind of figure out like, oh, if this
this happens and that like that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Kind of you love the process.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yes, yeah, so, and then with the chariot reversed, taking
up space and rising to the occasion, both of them reversed.
I'm wondering if some of that is those beliefs of well,
I didn't go to school.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
For this, who, like, why am I.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
With? What makes me credible in what I'm doing? Obviously,
the answer is the fact that so many people are
happy with the product, and so many people are wanting
more like that's your validation of Oh well, I don't
really know where this is coming from, but obviously it's
working and it's making a difference. And so I feel
like that's the belief system that wow. Like it's just
it's funny when I when I get certain pieces, it's like, oh,
(27:41):
all the pieces are coming together.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's like, that's the belief system.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think is that this idea that you don't understand
how it works, so you don't want to fully claim it.
And that's where the rising to the occasion would be
and the mental growth you're you're growing whether you want
to or not, Like that's that's what's happening. And so
(28:05):
it's just this idea of like owning it and saying like, Okay,
I don't really know why this lights me up, and
I love the process and it seems to all come
together at the end, but it does.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And I think that that's see that when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Purpose, the way that I believe purpose is is it
it's when you're plugged into something that's bigger than you
in a sense. And I know for you it's more
like the collective consciousness, right, Like that's your belief is
that you're plugged, but you're again it's like coming from
somewhere else. It's not coming directly from you. You're just
kind of the vessel. It's that same idea, but you
also have to own the part that you're the vessel.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I also believe that, like I start the process and
through that the information to figure it out is funnel
through me.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, that's that's exactly how it is with my ratings.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I cannot tell you, like, even before I read for
you initially, like I'll look and I'll glance and I'll
be like, God, I don't even know where to begin. Like,
I can't tell you how many times I do that.
Sometimes I pull up the cards and I'm like, oh,
I know where this is going, you know, And I
don't have to, you know. But most of the time
I'll look and I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna
(29:11):
start talking. And then and then it's just it's just unfolds.
And I really do believe it's because something else. I'm
choosing to be that that channel for the person that's
asking with that intention, I'm having that intention of just
being that channel, and then it just unfolds and I
don't even know how it works, and it sounds like
a similar process, even though it's a totally different product
(29:33):
and thing that you're putting out. It's that same thing
where you're almost surrendering to something else. You're first making
the connection with the intention, and then everything else just
kind of opens up.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Enough.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, So is this your first harror reading? Yes, Okay,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
It's cool, I'm enjoying the process.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Okay, awesome, So that that was everything that came through,
and I do feel like, yeah, so I do feely
is business related, especially usually when the purpose cards on
the table, Like I guess I don't always like to
attribute it to business just because everyone's different, but most
of the time it is because the page of Pentacles
(30:18):
Pentacles is so it's a little small lesson with Tarot.
Every suit has a different element attached to it. So
Pentacles is Earth, and so Pentacles is a lot of
times it has to do with money or tangible things
you could touch, and you know, so Pentacles often does
(30:40):
come with money and some degree usually which is a
you know, career business like all that's kind of in
the tangible realm, so words, which is what came up
a lot for you too.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Is air the.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Mind, so it's the and then cups there is water emotions,
and then ones which had a little bit of one
in there. Ones is like the passion, the creativity, the
the action piece. So they'll have different different pieces, but
usually the page of Pentacles is speaking to some kind
of a business career thing. And that's what I was
(31:16):
getting from this was that it was a lot of
kind of holding yourself back in and not fully like claiming.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
What you love to do.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
And so yeah, so can I ask you a question? Okay,
So from the other interviews or readings that I've watched,
what ask this? So I'm going to ask you, Okay,
could you put my reading into a few sentence paragraph
of what you think the overall story of it is?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, absolutely, So I would say the overall story is,
like I said before, the with the purpose card. I
think a lot of it is learning how to claim
what you love to do and own it in a
way where you're not trying to like understand it and
dissect it. So I think the understanding and dissecting it
(32:09):
is where your mind is going. Well, I don't understand
why this is working which is fully like kind of
almost like making you push. What I'm feeling is it's
almost like it's pushing you fully owning your purpose, like
it's there, you love it, but you're like, I'm going
to keep you over there because I don't understand you.
And I feel like a lot of the growth is
around opening your mind, to letting that in, into taking
(32:30):
the space, into owning it completely, because that's a lot
of what I'm seeing. I mean, the only other thing
that's a little off is the Seven of Cups. But
I feel like this was thrown in there for you
because you're feeling stuck.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's like, hey, remember this worked last time, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I feel like that's what that piece was for because
everything else here is all about releasing things that don't
serve you growth and pushing forward and changing your beliefs.
So so I don't know if that was one paragraph.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's perfectly explains a lot of It tells me that
don't worry about why you can do it, just except
that you can't do it right exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
And there's a big part of when you when you
fully embrace your purpose, you're fully committed to it, and
there's no there's no like separation anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You're not like you're able to just be like embody it.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Basically like, I am good at making these particular products.
I don't know how, but the how doesn't matter because
the success of validation speaks for itself. And I love
doing it because my definition of purpose is that it's
something that lights you up.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
You love it, you could do it.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
All day long, kind of a thing, and it gives
back to the world in some way, and that's exactly
what your product is doing. Now.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I love that I can help animals. I think it's
so cool.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, and you've mentioned some people are using it too.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I've I wasn't a huge fan of animals up
until we got Tobias pup, and but once we got him,
everything totally changed one hundred percent. I always I always
put forth the opinion that you know, animals, because they
(34:11):
don't live along with us, are just pain because you
listen too early, you get attached and then they're taken
away from you. But now I've seen them more as
growth channels and companions. And if I can help make
somebody else's animals life that much easier, that means they
can take more time just enjoying the relationship there with
their animal. They don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, you definitely have to let me know when it's
when it's in the US, so I can share about
it on my page.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So yeah, well, thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And for being open to a reading, and yeah, this
is this has been great.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Thank you very much for the reading. This was, as
as I said earlier, my first experience, and it's quite enjoyable. Yeah,
it would be interesting to do it in like six
to eight months again and see if something's changed or yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's funny because sometimes, oh my gosh, I'm
gonna tangent. So I'm gonna make this quick because this
is our this episode is already longer than it should be.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But I can't tell you how many times people will
come to me for reading.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Maybe I'm the first time, it's the first time they're
seeing me, but they'll say, oh, I saw a psychic
or I saw terry reader, or I saw someone six
months ago or a year ago, and they said the
exact same thing, you know, and that's just for them, like, hey, hey,
there's something here that you haven't done anything with We're
just gonna break it back around, do you know what
I mean? Because like you mentioned, and I fully believe this,
(35:35):
we're all of our we have the collective consciousness, we're
all connected on some level. So it would make sense
that what comes up is something that's already come up before,
if it hasn't changed yet, that needs to be changed.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yes, So take action, actually do something.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You know. And everyone has their own journey too, like no, no,
no judgment. Sometimes it takes people several times to learn,
and that's part of their journey too.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Everyone has their own pace.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well, and judgment belongs to the courtroom, and labels belong
on products.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
All right, Thank you very much and I look forward
to nex time.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Thank you for joining me on another inspiring episode. Remember
your purpose is a unique and unfolding path. I hope
these conversations have ignited a spark within you. Until next time,
keep exploring, growing, and embracing the beautiful adventure of connecting
with your purpose. Stay tuned for more meaningful conversations. If
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!