August 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Spiritual Billionaire Series Insights with Deepak Parashar
On this episode of The Advisor, Lisa Urbanski sits down with global energy leader turned spiritual explorer and author Deepak Parashar. His path—from building power plants in more than 15 countries to meeting luminaries like the Dalai Lama, WWII Nuremberg Special Trials Prosecutor Ben Ferencz, and Tuskegee Airman Col. James Harvey III—has distilled timeless leadership principles drawn from over 100 thought leaders spanning industry, defense, education, the arts, the space program, and the clergy.
In this scintillating conversation, you’ll learn how to:
🧭 Lead by Example: Translate discipline and ethics into team ownership
🪞 Practice Humility & Awareness: The inner work that sharpens decisions
🌱 Grow Through Mentorship: Find guides, like Deepak, who point you inward, not outward
🌎 Bridge Energy & Spirituality: Turn expertise into meaningful impact
Whether you’re scaling a business or seeking a deeper calling, this episode maps the path from power to presence and from success to significance.
📱 Follow Deepak Parashar's enlightening journey on social media for daily inspiration and thought-provoking content.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepak-parashar-author/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561111670728#
📚 Uncover the transformative power of "Life—The Spiritual Essence" by Deepak Parashar and embark on a profound journey towards spiritual enlightenment.
https://www.amazon.com/Life-Spiritual-Essence-Engineers-Integrated/dp/B0CTXQQW6J
On this episode of The Advisor, Lisa Urbanski sits down with global energy leader turned spiritual explorer and author Deepak Parashar. His path—from building power plants in more than 15 countries to meeting luminaries like the Dalai Lama, WWII Nuremberg Special Trials Prosecutor Ben Ferencz, and Tuskegee Airman Col. James Harvey III—has distilled timeless leadership principles drawn from over 100 thought leaders spanning industry, defense, education, the arts, the space program, and the clergy.
In this scintillating conversation, you’ll learn how to:
🧭 Lead by Example: Translate discipline and ethics into team ownership
🪞 Practice Humility & Awareness: The inner work that sharpens decisions
🌱 Grow Through Mentorship: Find guides, like Deepak, who point you inward, not outward
🌎 Bridge Energy & Spirituality: Turn expertise into meaningful impact
Whether you’re scaling a business or seeking a deeper calling, this episode maps the path from power to presence and from success to significance.
📱 Follow Deepak Parashar's enlightening journey on social media for daily inspiration and thought-provoking content.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepak-parashar-author/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561111670728#
📚 Uncover the transformative power of "Life—The Spiritual Essence" by Deepak Parashar and embark on a profound journey towards spiritual enlightenment.
https://www.amazon.com/Life-Spiritual-Essence-Engineers-Integrated/dp/B0CTXQQW6J
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back to the Advisor. Please do not forget to
like and subscribe. Meet my dear friend D. D. Pak Parashar,
an electrical engineer turned global energy executive who swapped megawatts
for metaphysics without missing a beat. So, after three decades
building power plants in thirty plus countries, a surprise blessing
(00:25):
from his holiness, the Dali Lama and a chance encounter
with an energy transmitting Vietnam veteran launched him on a
fourteen year, thirty eight country quests to decode the one
universal current that runs through science, spirituality, nature and you.
So the odyssey distilled in his twenty twenty four book
(00:48):
Life the Spiritual Essence and Engineer's Insights into the integrated nature.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Of the Divinity.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's a techno spiritual playbook that shows high performing pros
how to becomes spiritual billionaires in this crazy, high stakes world. So,
from his sixth trigger points for daily alignment to a
structural mashup of five world religions, deproves that rigorous data
and divine wonder cannot only coexist, they literally power each other.
(01:20):
So today we're tapping into his unique lens to explore
understanding the core principles of leadership. So he will unpack
the inner wiring that separates positional power from soul level influence.
And he's going to share stories from three global leaders
who materially shaped the last century, revealing how their unseen
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spiritual circuitry drove very word real world results. Oh my god,
that's such a tongue time. So grab your macha, I
meet your intuition and help me welcome the man who
lights up power grids by day and consciousness by night
onto the show. D I was so excited to see
you this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You look amazing. You're so bright and shiny and loving.
How are you doing.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So? First of all, numbers day too, and big, big
numbers stay to all our friends out there. I must
thank you for this extraordinary introduction. It's going to take
me a little bit to absorb it. So today we're
going to speak about core principles of leadership, and I'm
(02:31):
going to talk about two leaders actually because I think
that's more than enough, and then we can feel any questions.
But a little bit about myself, just to reiterate, so
I'm an electrical engineering MBA. I'm very UK or British trained.
I lived there for ten years, and I then went
on into the energy industry, leading several power initiatives at
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multiple points of the globe and you know, working with
very very dynamic teams in over thirty countries, you know,
cross functional teams. So it was a very engaging work,
you know, ninety hours a week, just flat out, you know,
seven days a week, and that you know, that sort
of regord. Now, somewhere along the way, I came to
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write this techno spiritual book called Life the Spiritual Essence,
which is specifically designed for the Tier one global professional
on how to strive to be the absolute best in
all of their endeavors, both professional and personal. But it
really starts from a personal space when you begin to
understand the delta between the real me versus the perfect meed.
(03:37):
You see, everybody thinks like when I speak to people,
I think they're getting the perfect meat, but in fact
they're getting the real me. And the delta is the
fall of the ego. So once you begin to understand that,
and you're honest enough with yourself, you now begin to examine,
and you know you have to introspect, and there are
various methodologies of getting there. But what sparked this book,
(04:00):
Life to Spiritual Lessons was It was due to a
series of three events within a six month period commencing
end of two thousand and eight, and that included running
into his holiness the Dalai Lama afterbet on a flight
to Tokyo. So I had a perfect view of him
for eleven hours, and you know, in the morning he
called me over and I got his blessings, and then
(04:21):
subsequently I met him a second time. This is when
I went up. It took my father and my son
to meet him at his official residence in North India.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
But I feel like, I'm just curious, starting to interrupt you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
What did it feel like being in his energy? Because
I can only imagine when I look at photos of him,
it's like I just get this like energy, this like
beautiful light, like pure love.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, and you nailed it, because you know, the second
time when I met him, he emerged from sixty feet away,
you know, and it was open air, and I could
just feel his blast of energy, that pure love energy,
you know, just consuming consuming me. I must tell you,
(05:07):
I'd actually spent the past the previous couple of days
in tiers, you know, just at the I believe it. Yeah,
at the thought of meeting him. So anyway, continuing on,
what happened was that that materially began to change my thinking.
You know when when I met him and then I
met the Vietnam veteran who was exhibiting, you know, he
(05:29):
was shooting powers from a distance, and you know that
that woke me up. The engineer me came alive. So
this then sparked a fourteen year journey of research, touching
some thirty eight countries about an engineer's experiential analysis on divinity.
What I said to myself was is I'm not going
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to take anything to chance and until and unless I
haven't proven it to myself, I'm not going to put
it into the And at that time it was not
a book, it was just a bunch of notes. But
I just wanted to understand how everything you know understood
because when you when you see the energy of people
like his holiness, which is these are true leadership in action.
This is where leadership and divinity are won. And so
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what happens is when you're with the with the Lamma,
you don't you don't need to speak, You have to sense,
you know, and that is just pure divinity. You know,
that is I mean, how much they have achieved in
their lives, you know, and they blazed the pathway for
us to follow. So as part of this intense research
on this on the experiential nature of divinity, I collaborated
(06:35):
over the fourteen year period with some I would say,
north of a you know, one hundred plus leaders from
myriad professions and you know, coming from industry and having
you know, led several power initiatives. You know, this obviously
naturally led into derivative studies on the core principles of
leadership as seen in the mariate professions. And all the
(06:58):
while this was being rained by clergy. So I actually
ended up I actually ended up researching like fifteen religions.
But there's a structural analysis of the five major ones,
you know, which is a subset analysis within the book.
And again this was not meant to be a book
at all, or just a bunch of notes, but it
was my It was the extraordinary you know, enhancement and
(07:21):
grace and help receive and encouragement from my colleagues are
general electric that I finally decided to, you know, start
to put this book together. So I examined these principles,
you know, in mirriad industries like defense industry, arts and entertainment,
the space program and other you know fields, and a
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lot of these leaders came forward and they actually gave
me inputs for the book, you know. But that's so
what I'm going to do today is I'm going to
speak about two such leaders that I dealt with, and
each of them have materially influenced events of the past century.
And but before I do that, I want to just
commence from scriptures. Okay, because this is you know, this
(08:06):
is since it's all integrated. So bear with me, Lisa,
while I just read a couple of points about our
tier one religious leaders across you know, the multiple beliefs.
So yes, please, So if you look at Jesus Christ,
starting from Christianity, he was revered for compassion, love and joy, servanthood.
(08:28):
You know you'll hear that term in industry servanthood. There
a servant leaders of them, Humility, truthfulness, forgiving. These are
just some. If you look at Prophet Muhammads from Islam,
he was perseverance and patience, humility. There it is again
justice and fairness and leading by example. Keep that in
the back of your mind. The Buddha had, you know,
(08:50):
they had what you call the ten perfections, but you know,
including wisdom, energy, patience, determination, loving, kindness, and equanimity. And
then you had Lord Krishna from Hinduism. He was revered
as the warrior diplomat. He was the god child, he
was the prankster, he was the Guru. He was also
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the universe of supreme being, leading people out of cosmic
delusion or what we call confusion of the soul. So
this is what I was reading in the scriptures while
I was also, you know, dealing with all these multiple
leaders to see how this all kind of flowed together, right,
because everything comes from a certain source. So all these
(09:32):
thoughts now, I'm not going to keep this in the
back of your mind. So I'm going to now speak
about the two leaders that I dealt with. Do you
have any questions for me, Lizabe, Well, once I get going,
there's no stopping Sha.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I can feel your passion and I can just only
imagine the power and what you're about to say because
I know you. We got to know each other very
quickly by recognition and your brain. I can just picture
it pulling all of this information of heart and organizing it,
(10:05):
and so I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I just want to hear about it. Tell us, tell us.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Okay, thank you for that. By the way, Lizid, before
we go any further, I must warn you you're not
allowed to praise me because if you do, you know
what you can see is I've chained my feet down
because I start to inflate. And as I self inflate,
I'm going to go offscreen. So you're not allowed to
praise me in the slightest please, right.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Hey, your ego egos settle down over their egos.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Okay. So the first leader was Nuremberg World War Two
prosecutor Benjamin Friends. And the backstory on this is that
it was in twenty nineteen. I came across the program
on him on Netflix and it was called Prosecuting Evil,
(10:54):
the Bend Friends Story. And I'd never heard about mister
Freends before. So as I'm sitting there and just listening
to this man expound his life experiences where he traveled
and you know what you know are just an enormous achievements,
I'm sitting there open mouth because the principles of excellence
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and leadership that he was talking about was substantively integrated
into the first part of my book, which is the
Holistic Six Triggers. In fact, our last podcast that I
did with Stacey was on the six trigger Points, right,
and there was an article on Huffington's Thrive Global after that.
(11:41):
But the six Trigger Points is basically a one page
holistic chart designed to achieve excellence. And what it is, Lisa,
It's twenty five points of action segregated into six quadrants
of the mind, which I'd come up with, you know,
during all the research that I was conducting, and here
(12:01):
was this man just expounding it. And you know, I
could see, I mean, I said, what is this? I mean,
how could somebody do that? Because Lisa, it took me
to give you scale. It took me seven years to
develop that table, you know, to grow it, you know,
piece by piece, you know, into the twenty five sub triggers,
you know, and I would tweak words as I would
meet a leader, and I'd fit it in and then
(12:23):
I tested and retest it every day, and here he
is just just expounding it, right, And at that point
I said, I got to reach out to him, you know,
because he took me seven years to develop it, and
then seven years to test, retest, refine, right, and now
it's you know, now it's it's my it's my daily
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grounding charge.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Ready you felt, ready? Yeah, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
So, being utterly rambunctious by nature, I said, I'm going
to go reach out to him right now. I'm going
to tell you a little secretly. So what happens is
when when you have people of this level and this
level of achievements, and you know how they dedicated the
entire lives for community, they're rather hard to find. You know,
try it. It's not easy.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They're hard to get it. They're hard to try down. Yeah,
they're hard to track down hard.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So I tried for two days online and I think
I made a couple of calls. I found he had
a foundation and you know, I'm doing a lot of
this stuff and just sending it out and uh, two
days later, the phone rings and it's God. Now, let's
just take a step back and try and imagine what
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I was going through at that moment, because you see, Lisa,
this is this is not some corporate leader calling me
to say, hey, the fact I heard about we've got
a major issue ongoing. I know you're on top of it,
can you give me the thirty second elevator speech, you know,
define the issue, the problem? What do you are your
suggested actions, the recommended action? What does your team think?
(13:59):
Do you need any help me? What are the risks
you know and we need? And how do we get
through this? It wasn't that this is the last surviving
prosecutor off the Nuremberg World War Two trials. On the
other end of the line, here's a man, Lisa, who
went through the Normandy landings right, he crossed the Maginal line.
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He went into the concentration camps as they were being
liberated to collect evidence on behalf of the Allies, and
he was mister Ferenz was telling me how you know,
he saw guards being flung into the ovens alive right
by by prisoners. But as actually, I mean, this is
what this is what he was going through, right, And
(14:44):
I tell you, Lisa, this is where holistic preparation meets opportunity.
And what I mean by that is I could have freaked, right,
There's one or two things I could have done, just
you know when you pick up the phone, and as
mister Ferenz, I could have either freaked or I could
have been able to just adjust and move. And that's
(15:04):
where holistic preparation meets opportunity, because what transpired was possibly
the single greatest discussion I've had in my life. And
it went on for a full hours. He could have
gone for ten minutes. He would have been extraordinarily nice,
and that would have been the end of it. But
I was ready. And this is you know, you hear
about books like Eckhartholes the power of now right, you say,
(15:29):
live in the moment, but this is literally in the moment,
with all your cylinders firing at the same time, you
were able could just and dance. And you know, mister
Friends then went on just to finish his history. He
went on into a life of jurisprudence which lasted seventy years.
You know. He materially influenced the creation of the International
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courte of Criminal Justice at the Hague, you know, and
he had tried. He gave me chapter on words on
his strategy. How he tried doctor Ollendorff, who was the
head of the Einstarts group. And these were the dead
squads that went alongside the the the regular German army,
murdering innocent women and children and he told me how
his visits into the camps translated into a life committed
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for a higher cause. So there were there were three
takeaways right that I saw about it. First was his humility, right,
which is a given because this legend of a man
called and nobody liked me, right because and and you know, Lisa,
you recall I'd sent you a picture of when I
was standing in front of that that big super cell.
(16:37):
That's when you realize just how miniscule you are compared
to compared to the largest scheme of things. And that's
where you get you learned to contain, you know, your ego.
So first of all was his humility, right. The second
was his humor. You know, he had that fish self
effacing you know humor. You know. He was interviewed on
(17:00):
sixty minutes, and I believe it was Leslie Stall if
I'm not mistaken. And and she she asked him, she says,
you know, you're one of the sunniest people I've met
in my life, notwithstanding all the you know, what you
have seen, you know, by by way of your you know,
your World War two experiences. And subsequently and she also
mentioned that he was he was he was he was
(17:22):
a very tiny person, you know, he was I think
just about five feet is what she what she mentioned.
So coming back to his humor, you know, he he
he told me, he says, you know the fact, when
when World War two began, I I wanted, I kept
applying and I kept getting rejected by everyone, you know,
because of my stature. And he says, I was furious.
(17:42):
So he says, when I this is for example, when
I applied to the US Airborne, he said, they rejected
me on the basis because they they said, I'll never land.
You would just go up once he jumped out of
the plane, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So he so he had that kind of humor, you know,
going uh, you know, going with him and then and
then ultimately yeah, you know, during the discussion, I asked him,
I said, sir, what are your thoughts on material gains?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
How do you you know, how do you weigh that?
And he said, oh, I've donated all my savings. And wow,
you got to think about this, right, because you know,
life is all about understanding your and transcending your your
your boundaries of fear progressively, because when you face your
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fears head on, you will find that the majority of
them are so transitory that they just diminished this They
start to like just you know, crumble in front of
your eyes because now totally focused, you know, on fixing
the problem. And you now, now this is where you
live in the moment, and you truly just keep going.
But look at what he he was able to do.
I I don't have the courage today. Maybe one day
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I will, right, but not today.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I literally brought a tear.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
My eyes just got my eyes got a little leaky there.
I cannot even imagine.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And how he.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Just lived in faith and love and complete gratitude and humility,
like that is how he lives and that is only
how I could only strive to be one day.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah. He he passed away two years back at the
age of one hundred and three. Crazy at the age
of ninety eight, he had a sixteen hour day routine. Jeez,
I mean, I mean, this is this is the person
you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
My two hour routine was long, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But either that that's the person I was speaking with, right,
And I must have done something karmically right in my
life to be able to, you know, receive these blessings,
you know, and you know, a sidebar on that is
that the blessings of elders are so important for us.
You know, they have they have done so much for us.
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You know, you'll always find people who are a mentor
or who looked at to you, came to you in
times of trouble, and it is our duty to serve
them in their time of need. You know. It's you
and I always, you know, keep that in the back
of my mind. So that was my experience with Benjamin
friends crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I you know, I'm like, I'm so my ego is
so jealous right now. But that makes sense to me
because I'm looking over your stuff, and I'm looking over
your website, and I'm looking into the book, and that
makes sense to me. How you got the information you
did and how you started to develop these core principles.
(20:36):
Those were key moments that helped you develop this this
brilliance that you've now shared with the world.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Well you too, kind of again, Lisa, you're not allowed
to praise me, right, remember, because I begin to inflict.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Like a saddle down. The saddle down.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So the next leader I want to speak about is
gonna is gonnael James Harvey, the third of the Tuskegee Airmen,
Now a little background for you. So the Tuskegee Airman.
They were the first African American World War two fighter
squadron and they were trained at a base called the
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Tuskegee where they went through some extreme challenges, you know,
to pass to to graduate, because the bar was set
much higher for these for these pilotes. In fact, there
was a movie called The Tuskegee Airman with Lawrence Fishburne
and Michael Jamal Warner he just passed away recently, the actor,
and also with Cuba Gooding, Cuba Gooding Junior. And that's
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when I first, you know, come across the Tuskegee. I
was fascinated by the whole story. Now, as I was,
as I was doing my continuing my research, you know
on divinity and spirituality and engineering and metaphysics and all
of this, you know, it's all starting to come together,
I came across a quotation by Colonel Alex Jefferson off
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the Tuskegi where he said that in life, you win some,
you lose some, but you make progress. And I loved
that quote, and so Lisa, I had stuck it somewhere,
you know, I think it was in the in the
preface section. Now, when I finally got serious about integrating
the book, this was actually during the I'd started integrating
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during the COVID period, and then it took me but
I'd already started getting permissions for use of pictures and quotations.
And it took me cumulative three years going around the
glove getting because there were probably somewhere between eighty two
one hundred permissions. I have a dossier this stick, you know,
of all Now, I could not find Colonel Jefferson. And
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in fact, I think at the time there were only
five left of these duskegy Erman, right, and I couldn't
find them. So and I still remember this. It was
September of twenty twenty one, and very regretfully I took
the quote out of the book. And two weeks later Lisa,
I'm I had gone to DC for some client meetings.
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I'm sitting down in the lobby of the hotel. I
was waiting for my two colleagues from General Electric to uh,
you know, to to join me. And down in the
reception there were you know, there were there were a
lot of other sofas, you know, which were nobody was
sitting there was just myself you know, sitting and these
four people came in, one in a wheelchair, and for
some reason unknown to me, they came up to me
(23:23):
and said, can we sip with you? And I said sure, yeah,
you know, no, no, no problem, and uh so I
know where this is going. So I noticed the gentleman
in the wheelchair, and naturally I got up to help him,
you know, get him out of the wheelchair. As I'm picking,
you know, helping him up, I now start to see
(23:43):
his gear, right, he had the nineteen forty nine top gun,
the P fifty one, you know, the the I just
quartered and I was frozen. I turned and I and
it was his daughter, Kathy, and I said is he
She said yes, he's a Tuskegee Airman. And it turned
(24:04):
out to be not gonna accusing, but you know, James
Harvey of the Tuskegee. And someday, Lisa, I'm going to
sit down and try and work the probability, the linked probability,
because of all the things that I tried to finally
giving up and here, you know, is one of the last.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Week because you finally surrendered, You finally surrendered. It seems
the universe gives us what we are manifesting when we
finally surrender. I think it was in my interpretation, it
was your body saying I'm ready because I don't need
this anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, you know, and I but what it did prove
to me is that and this really was a subconscious
manifestation of some sort that because you know, the mind,
the clearer you become, or the simpler you become, the
lesser you know, once your ego begins to drop, you
can project energy, you know, much more clearly. And somehow
(25:03):
these you know, energetic connections began to begin to align themselves.
And now you can call it a coincidence if you want.
But I one day I'll say that, maybe I'll go
to chat tputy and try the probabity to say but
regardless to say I it was one of the single
greatest evenings that we spent with Colonel Harvey, and I
(25:25):
mean and my colleagues joined in and we just had
a party listening to the life of this of this
great legend, you know. He he went on to do
one hundred and twenty six missions in Korea, and his
message to us was in my my colleague album Muller.
She was saying later she says, d I was getting
goosebumps listening to him because he said that always tried
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to be the best despite the odds, and for him,
a problem a problem was no problem. It was just
something to be worked through and look at the simplest
you know, he had what I wrote about in in
UH in the in the six trigger points section called
it dynamic quietude, where you take your great knowledge acquired.
(26:09):
I mean, this is a man who flew thirteen different
types of aircraft, and you take this great knowledge acquired
and you clear out all the weed and the fluff
to be able to operate in the most efficient manner. Yeah,
and that's what that's what he did. So when I
look at his point, and he also said, he says
(26:29):
the packet, I've always believed in a good belly full
of laugh every day. There it is humor, right, and.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's not clear at the end of my day. I
just I watch really funny videos and I feel like
it grounds me. But I feel like in his case
and in many people who are enlightened and have transcended,
that they release all of the craft, the energy that's
built up inside, and then they're able to see a
problem as it is as just as just another.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Part of the journey.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So many of us, a problem arises and our insecurities
and all the things from the outside pop up in
our bodies and then it freezes us. So when we
get that, when we release that, then we have the
ability to see how it is.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And wow, what a powerful man.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh unbelievable and humble to the core.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And you know this.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I never asked him what his religious beliefs were. I didn't.
I didn't have to. This is just pure divinity in action,
you know online. And he was so he was detached
yet so loving, you know that. So when I when
I so to summarize and sorry for the you know,
for the Lentila, but I had to expound. You know
what both both these leaders were about. The first point
(27:46):
that comes across is that they both led from the front.
Right let from the front. You see what happens is
in life, you know, as a as a leader. If
you want to leave lead, don't talk too much, right
this is you you have to do. But the three
key takeaways, and you know, this is part of my
integrated studies across the mired professions. I is, I found
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three that are very common leading from the front, of course,
and then these three. One is humility, humor, and dedicating
your life for something much larger than yourself, you see,
because when when the greatest leaders are those who rise
above the domain of expertise and give themselves, they go
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from the eye into the wei to help others in life.
And that's why that's my story on the two of them.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Wow, that is just it. I almost have no words.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
How powerful is that like to be able to learn
from two icons who've been there, done that, who hold
that energy. We've all walked in a room where there's
been somebody that you're just incredibly drawn to and they
don't say a word, They're just standing there and you
can feel their sacredness, you can feel their knowing, and
(29:07):
it almost scares the crap out of me, you know, Like,
those people are just so powerful.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And I love how you highlight what true.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Leadership is because you and I can sit here and
talk about what true leadership isn't, but I'd rather not
even bring in that aspect of it, because I love
how you highlighted what true leadership is.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's exactly what you said.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
It's leading with love, it's standing in your power, having
no ego, but genuinely wanting to help the greater good
and holding that in your heart space. Yeah, that is
true leadership.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah. And you know the to add to what you said,
it's also you know, if you can find if you
can find a mentor or a guru that leads you
into your and not to them, you're very fortunate. And
that's what these great leaders embellish. They don't expect anything.
(30:09):
I'm must tell you very funny stories. So one of
the premiere swamis in India who oversaw my entire book
strategy for the past ten years. You know. I'd show
up four times a year and I present my charts
to him, you know, and he would just like pick
out mistakes and he said, this is good ad that
(30:30):
use this word. And all of a sudden, you know,
this began to come together. So I'm gonna tell a
very funny story. I you know, I met him a
couple of years back in Delhi and I was telling him.
I said, sir, you know, I'm so you know, despite
all my research, I got so many vices still and
you know, I'm confused, and you know they and I said,
(30:50):
you know, I got I got vices. For example, I'm
I'm still a non vegetarian, right, and he said, no problem,
just keep eating. I'm like, what, what did you just say? No, no,
just keep eating. He says. You know, the day that
you begin to feel sorry for the animal kingdom, he says,
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you were naturally stup. And what he was really saying,
Lisa was that this is the delta between the suppression
of a desire versus a natural progression of the mind.
And he was talking that he come out of yourself,
you know, find the leader in you find your pathway.
That's really what he was saying. And I made the
(31:31):
leap a few months back. I was actually feeding a
cow and I saw the gentleness in its eyes, you know,
and and something just hit me. A lifelong non vegetarian
turned vegetarian like that. But then again again it was
years of thought. Leaser, it has to percolate, you know,
as Michael Jackson always said, let it similar.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's and but but you know these are you know,
they they these leaders, they've blazed up have the way
for us. Like for example, when you look at his
holiness of the Islam afterbet, you see their training. First
of all, he hides his knowledge through his humor. He's
very bubbly. You know, he's always if you watch something,
he's always, you know, laughing if you don't know. What
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you don't know is that these these sages, they can
see you at various points of your life all together
is one. So they can tell instinctively that how to
tap into you. They make these minuscule adjustments into you
and off you go. I mean, goosebug just you know,
(32:36):
just thinking about it. But you know too, like like
like the Swami that I was telling you about, he
has be searched over one hundred thousand verses of Sanskrit,
you know, the linked into the into the rhythms of creation.
You know, they they can draw into that, into that divinity.
But you talk to them, they are absolutely humble, you know,
and their research swamis they they stay away from from
(32:58):
the public eye. They don't want to be found. But
if you can find them, it's just such a journey.
So you know, as part of this extraordinary journey, I mean,
I'm beginning to run into all these people incredible and
so hence I I just had to put the book out,
you know, and I'm doing everything for charity. Because I
have no I don't have the slightest interest in any
(33:19):
any gains of any sort, and asked question.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
That is beautiful. That is beautiful. So where can people
find your book?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
So it sound on Amazon and on multiple platforms. There's uh,
you know, Barnes and Noble, and I put it on
all the both in the versions and also the the
the print versions.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay, beautiful. What is some last minute? Do you have
any last minute thoughts before we say goodbye for the day.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, So, first of all, take the time to find yourself.
You know, there's a there's a leader lurking within you somewhere, right,
and this is particularly for the younger generation. Right. You
may be multi talented, but pick your top one or
two skill sets and then run with them. Because I
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met so many people in my travels across what forty
five fifty countries who are so multi talented, but they
never devote enough time. They cannot devote enough time to
you know, each of their skill sets, and as a consequence,
they get very frustrated because they're not able to achieve what,
you know, what they want to do. So pick one
or two skill sets. Understand that within each of each
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one of us like the leader. So for example, there
you know there are there are may so many forms
of leadership. You know, you can you can lead to
be a fireman, you can lead to be a public speaker,
you can lead to be you know, some people have
the courage to go defend others. You know they're some.
It's some end up being corporate leaders. Right, So experiment
(34:52):
and find who you are and couple that with humility
and gratefulness for what you have and you will find.
But also try and develop your situational awareness. And if
you can combine these factors that alone, right, the universe
will open up some very very interesting corridors of knowledge
(35:14):
for you.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Thank you so much for being here today and for
sharing your knowledge and your stories.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
It was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Well, thank you once again for having me, Liza. Really
it's an honor, and once again a big, big number
stay to all our friends out there. There is so
much hope for you. There's so much divinity within each
one of you. Just go tap into it and you'll
see wonders.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
To our audience, you just heard from d Listen to
his words and then go back and listen again, because
he just said some very very important things. Let's blaze
the way with humility and with love and with life.
Bye for now, Advisor family,
Welcome back to the Advisor. Please do not forget to
like and subscribe. Meet my dear friend D. D. Pak Parashar,
an electrical engineer turned global energy executive who swapped megawatts
for metaphysics without missing a beat. So, after three decades
building power plants in thirty plus countries, a surprise blessing
(00:25):
from his holiness, the Dali Lama and a chance encounter
with an energy transmitting Vietnam veteran launched him on a
fourteen year, thirty eight country quests to decode the one
universal current that runs through science, spirituality, nature and you.
So the odyssey distilled in his twenty twenty four book
(00:48):
Life the Spiritual Essence and Engineer's Insights into the integrated nature.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Of the Divinity.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's a techno spiritual playbook that shows high performing pros
how to becomes spiritual billionaires in this crazy, high stakes world. So,
from his sixth trigger points for daily alignment to a
structural mashup of five world religions, deproves that rigorous data
and divine wonder cannot only coexist, they literally power each other.
(01:20):
So today we're tapping into his unique lens to explore
understanding the core principles of leadership. So he will unpack
the inner wiring that separates positional power from soul level influence.
And he's going to share stories from three global leaders
who materially shaped the last century, revealing how their unseen
(01:42):
spiritual circuitry drove very word real world results. Oh my god,
that's such a tongue time. So grab your macha, I
meet your intuition and help me welcome the man who
lights up power grids by day and consciousness by night
onto the show. D I was so excited to see
you this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You look amazing. You're so bright and shiny and loving.
How are you doing.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So? First of all, numbers day too, and big, big
numbers stay to all our friends out there. I must
thank you for this extraordinary introduction. It's going to take
me a little bit to absorb it. So today we're
going to speak about core principles of leadership, and I'm
(02:31):
going to talk about two leaders actually because I think
that's more than enough, and then we can feel any questions.
But a little bit about myself, just to reiterate, so
I'm an electrical engineering MBA. I'm very UK or British trained.
I lived there for ten years, and I then went
on into the energy industry, leading several power initiatives at
(02:55):
multiple points of the globe and you know, working with
very very dynamic teams in over thirty countries, you know,
cross functional teams. So it was a very engaging work,
you know, ninety hours a week, just flat out, you know,
seven days a week, and that you know, that sort
of regord. Now, somewhere along the way, I came to
(03:15):
write this techno spiritual book called Life the Spiritual Essence,
which is specifically designed for the Tier one global professional
on how to strive to be the absolute best in
all of their endeavors, both professional and personal. But it
really starts from a personal space when you begin to
understand the delta between the real me versus the perfect meed.
(03:37):
You see, everybody thinks like when I speak to people,
I think they're getting the perfect meat, but in fact
they're getting the real me. And the delta is the
fall of the ego. So once you begin to understand that,
and you're honest enough with yourself, you now begin to examine,
and you know you have to introspect, and there are
various methodologies of getting there. But what sparked this book,
(04:00):
Life to Spiritual Lessons was It was due to a
series of three events within a six month period commencing
end of two thousand and eight, and that included running
into his holiness the Dalai Lama afterbet on a flight
to Tokyo. So I had a perfect view of him
for eleven hours, and you know, in the morning he
called me over and I got his blessings, and then
(04:21):
subsequently I met him a second time. This is when
I went up. It took my father and my son
to meet him at his official residence in North India.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
But I feel like, I'm just curious, starting to interrupt you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
What did it feel like being in his energy? Because
I can only imagine when I look at photos of him,
it's like I just get this like energy, this like
beautiful light, like pure love.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, and you nailed it, because you know, the second
time when I met him, he emerged from sixty feet away,
you know, and it was open air, and I could
just feel his blast of energy, that pure love energy,
you know, just consuming consuming me. I must tell you,
(05:07):
I'd actually spent the past the previous couple of days
in tiers, you know, just at the I believe it. Yeah,
at the thought of meeting him. So anyway, continuing on,
what happened was that that materially began to change my thinking.
You know when when I met him and then I
met the Vietnam veteran who was exhibiting, you know, he
(05:29):
was shooting powers from a distance, and you know that
that woke me up. The engineer me came alive. So
this then sparked a fourteen year journey of research, touching
some thirty eight countries about an engineer's experiential analysis on divinity.
What I said to myself was is I'm not going
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to take anything to chance and until and unless I
haven't proven it to myself, I'm not going to put
it into the And at that time it was not
a book, it was just a bunch of notes. But
I just wanted to understand how everything you know understood
because when you when you see the energy of people
like his holiness, which is these are true leadership in action.
This is where leadership and divinity are won. And so
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what happens is when you're with the with the Lamma,
you don't you don't need to speak, You have to sense,
you know, and that is just pure divinity. You know,
that is I mean, how much they have achieved in
their lives, you know, and they blazed the pathway for
us to follow. So as part of this intense research
on this on the experiential nature of divinity, I collaborated
(06:35):
over the fourteen year period with some I would say,
north of a you know, one hundred plus leaders from
myriad professions and you know, coming from industry and having
you know, led several power initiatives. You know, this obviously
naturally led into derivative studies on the core principles of
leadership as seen in the mariate professions. And all the
(06:58):
while this was being rained by clergy. So I actually
ended up I actually ended up researching like fifteen religions.
But there's a structural analysis of the five major ones,
you know, which is a subset analysis within the book.
And again this was not meant to be a book
at all, or just a bunch of notes, but it
was my It was the extraordinary you know, enhancement and
(07:21):
grace and help receive and encouragement from my colleagues are
general electric that I finally decided to, you know, start
to put this book together. So I examined these principles,
you know, in mirriad industries like defense industry, arts and entertainment,
the space program and other you know fields, and a
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lot of these leaders came forward and they actually gave
me inputs for the book, you know. But that's so
what I'm going to do today is I'm going to
speak about two such leaders that I dealt with, and
each of them have materially influenced events of the past century.
And but before I do that, I want to just
commence from scriptures. Okay, because this is you know, this
(08:06):
is since it's all integrated. So bear with me, Lisa,
while I just read a couple of points about our
tier one religious leaders across you know, the multiple beliefs.
So yes, please, So if you look at Jesus Christ,
starting from Christianity, he was revered for compassion, love and joy, servanthood.
(08:28):
You know you'll hear that term in industry servanthood. There
a servant leaders of them, Humility, truthfulness, forgiving. These are
just some. If you look at Prophet Muhammads from Islam,
he was perseverance and patience, humility. There it is again
justice and fairness and leading by example. Keep that in
the back of your mind. The Buddha had, you know,
(08:50):
they had what you call the ten perfections, but you know,
including wisdom, energy, patience, determination, loving, kindness, and equanimity. And
then you had Lord Krishna from Hinduism. He was revered
as the warrior diplomat. He was the god child, he
was the prankster, he was the Guru. He was also
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the universe of supreme being, leading people out of cosmic
delusion or what we call confusion of the soul. So
this is what I was reading in the scriptures while
I was also, you know, dealing with all these multiple
leaders to see how this all kind of flowed together, right,
because everything comes from a certain source. So all these
(09:32):
thoughts now, I'm not going to keep this in the
back of your mind. So I'm going to now speak
about the two leaders that I dealt with. Do you
have any questions for me, Lizabe, Well, once I get going,
there's no stopping Sha.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I can feel your passion and I can just only
imagine the power and what you're about to say because
I know you. We got to know each other very
quickly by recognition and your brain. I can just picture
it pulling all of this information of heart and organizing it,
(10:05):
and so I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I just want to hear about it. Tell us, tell us.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Okay, thank you for that. By the way, Lizid, before
we go any further, I must warn you you're not
allowed to praise me because if you do, you know
what you can see is I've chained my feet down
because I start to inflate. And as I self inflate,
I'm going to go offscreen. So you're not allowed to
praise me in the slightest please, right.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Hey, your ego egos settle down over their egos.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Okay. So the first leader was Nuremberg World War Two
prosecutor Benjamin Friends. And the backstory on this is that
it was in twenty nineteen. I came across the program
on him on Netflix and it was called Prosecuting Evil,
(10:54):
the Bend Friends Story. And I'd never heard about mister
Freends before. So as I'm sitting there and just listening
to this man expound his life experiences where he traveled
and you know what you know are just an enormous achievements,
I'm sitting there open mouth because the principles of excellence
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and leadership that he was talking about was substantively integrated
into the first part of my book, which is the
Holistic Six Triggers. In fact, our last podcast that I
did with Stacey was on the six trigger Points, right,
and there was an article on Huffington's Thrive Global after that.
(11:41):
But the six Trigger Points is basically a one page
holistic chart designed to achieve excellence. And what it is, Lisa,
It's twenty five points of action segregated into six quadrants
of the mind, which I'd come up with, you know,
during all the research that I was conducting, and here
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was this man just expounding it. And you know, I
could see, I mean, I said, what is this? I mean,
how could somebody do that? Because Lisa, it took me
to give you scale. It took me seven years to
develop that table, you know, to grow it, you know,
piece by piece, you know, into the twenty five sub triggers,
you know, and I would tweak words as I would
meet a leader, and I'd fit it in and then
(12:23):
I tested and retest it every day, and here he
is just just expounding it, right, And at that point
I said, I got to reach out to him, you know,
because he took me seven years to develop it, and
then seven years to test, retest, refine, right, and now
it's you know, now it's it's my it's my daily
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grounding charge.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Ready you felt, ready? Yeah, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
So, being utterly rambunctious by nature, I said, I'm going
to go reach out to him right now. I'm going
to tell you a little secretly. So what happens is
when when you have people of this level and this
level of achievements, and you know how they dedicated the
entire lives for community, they're rather hard to find. You know,
try it. It's not easy.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They're hard to get it. They're hard to try down. Yeah,
they're hard to track down hard.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So I tried for two days online and I think
I made a couple of calls. I found he had
a foundation and you know, I'm doing a lot of
this stuff and just sending it out and uh, two
days later, the phone rings and it's God. Now, let's
just take a step back and try and imagine what
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I was going through at that moment, because you see, Lisa,
this is this is not some corporate leader calling me
to say, hey, the fact I heard about we've got
a major issue ongoing. I know you're on top of it,
can you give me the thirty second elevator speech, you know,
define the issue, the problem? What do you are your
suggested actions, the recommended action? What does your team think?
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Do you need any help me? What are the risks
you know and we need? And how do we get
through this? It wasn't that this is the last surviving
prosecutor off the Nuremberg World War Two trials. On the
other end of the line, here's a man, Lisa, who
went through the Normandy landings right, he crossed the Maginal line.
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He went into the concentration camps as they were being
liberated to collect evidence on behalf of the Allies, and
he was mister Ferenz was telling me how you know,
he saw guards being flung into the ovens alive right
by by prisoners. But as actually, I mean, this is
what this is what he was going through, right, And
(14:44):
I tell you, Lisa, this is where holistic preparation meets opportunity.
And what I mean by that is I could have freaked, right,
There's one or two things I could have done, just
you know when you pick up the phone, and as
mister Ferenz, I could have either freaked or I could
have been able to just adjust and move. And that's
(15:04):
where holistic preparation meets opportunity, because what transpired was possibly
the single greatest discussion I've had in my life. And
it went on for a full hours. He could have
gone for ten minutes. He would have been extraordinarily nice,
and that would have been the end of it. But
I was ready. And this is you know, you hear
about books like Eckhartholes the power of now right, you say,
(15:29):
live in the moment, but this is literally in the moment,
with all your cylinders firing at the same time, you
were able could just and dance. And you know, mister
Friends then went on just to finish his history. He
went on into a life of jurisprudence which lasted seventy years.
You know. He materially influenced the creation of the International
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courte of Criminal Justice at the Hague, you know, and
he had tried. He gave me chapter on words on
his strategy. How he tried doctor Ollendorff, who was the
head of the Einstarts group. And these were the dead
squads that went alongside the the the regular German army,
murdering innocent women and children and he told me how
his visits into the camps translated into a life committed
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for a higher cause. So there were there were three
takeaways right that I saw about it. First was his humility, right,
which is a given because this legend of a man
called and nobody liked me, right because and and you know, Lisa,
you recall I'd sent you a picture of when I
was standing in front of that that big super cell.
(16:37):
That's when you realize just how miniscule you are compared
to compared to the largest scheme of things. And that's
where you get you learned to contain, you know, your ego.
So first of all was his humility, right. The second
was his humor. You know, he had that fish self
effacing you know humor. You know. He was interviewed on
(17:00):
sixty minutes, and I believe it was Leslie Stall if
I'm not mistaken. And and she she asked him, she says,
you know, you're one of the sunniest people I've met
in my life, notwithstanding all the you know, what you
have seen, you know, by by way of your you know,
your World War two experiences. And subsequently and she also
mentioned that he was he was he was he was
(17:22):
a very tiny person, you know, he was I think
just about five feet is what she what she mentioned.
So coming back to his humor, you know, he he
he told me, he says, you know the fact, when
when World War two began, I I wanted, I kept
applying and I kept getting rejected by everyone, you know,
because of my stature. And he says, I was furious.
(17:42):
So he says, when I this is for example, when
I applied to the US Airborne, he said, they rejected
me on the basis because they they said, I'll never land.
You would just go up once he jumped out of
the plane, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So he so he had that kind of humor, you know,
going uh, you know, going with him and then and
then ultimately yeah, you know, during the discussion, I asked him,
I said, sir, what are your thoughts on material gains?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
How do you you know, how do you weigh that?
And he said, oh, I've donated all my savings. And wow,
you got to think about this, right, because you know,
life is all about understanding your and transcending your your
your boundaries of fear progressively, because when you face your
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fears head on, you will find that the majority of
them are so transitory that they just diminished this They
start to like just you know, crumble in front of
your eyes because now totally focused, you know, on fixing
the problem. And you now, now this is where you
live in the moment, and you truly just keep going.
But look at what he he was able to do.
I I don't have the courage today. Maybe one day
(18:50):
I will, right, but not today.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I literally brought a tear.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
My eyes just got my eyes got a little leaky there.
I cannot even imagine.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And how he.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Just lived in faith and love and complete gratitude and humility,
like that is how he lives and that is only
how I could only strive to be one day.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah. He he passed away two years back at the
age of one hundred and three. Crazy at the age
of ninety eight, he had a sixteen hour day routine. Jeez,
I mean, I mean, this is this is the person
you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
My two hour routine was long, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But either that that's the person I was speaking with, right,
And I must have done something karmically right in my
life to be able to, you know, receive these blessings,
you know, and you know, a sidebar on that is
that the blessings of elders are so important for us.
You know, they have they have done so much for us.
(19:56):
You know, you'll always find people who are a mentor
or who looked at to you, came to you in
times of trouble, and it is our duty to serve
them in their time of need. You know. It's you
and I always, you know, keep that in the back
of my mind. So that was my experience with Benjamin
friends crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I you know, I'm like, I'm so my ego is
so jealous right now. But that makes sense to me
because I'm looking over your stuff, and I'm looking over
your website, and I'm looking into the book, and that
makes sense to me. How you got the information you
did and how you started to develop these core principles.
(20:36):
Those were key moments that helped you develop this this
brilliance that you've now shared with the world.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Well you too, kind of again, Lisa, you're not allowed
to praise me, right, remember, because I begin to inflict.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Like a saddle down. The saddle down.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So the next leader I want to speak about is
gonna is gonnael James Harvey, the third of the Tuskegee Airmen,
Now a little background for you. So the Tuskegee Airman.
They were the first African American World War two fighter
squadron and they were trained at a base called the
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Tuskegee where they went through some extreme challenges, you know,
to pass to to graduate, because the bar was set
much higher for these for these pilotes. In fact, there
was a movie called The Tuskegee Airman with Lawrence Fishburne
and Michael Jamal Warner he just passed away recently, the actor,
and also with Cuba Gooding, Cuba Gooding Junior. And that's
(21:34):
when I first, you know, come across the Tuskegee. I
was fascinated by the whole story. Now, as I was,
as I was doing my continuing my research, you know
on divinity and spirituality and engineering and metaphysics and all
of this, you know, it's all starting to come together,
I came across a quotation by Colonel Alex Jefferson off
(21:56):
the Tuskegi where he said that in life, you win some,
you lose some, but you make progress. And I loved
that quote, and so Lisa, I had stuck it somewhere,
you know, I think it was in the in the
preface section. Now, when I finally got serious about integrating
the book, this was actually during the I'd started integrating
(22:18):
during the COVID period, and then it took me but
I'd already started getting permissions for use of pictures and quotations.
And it took me cumulative three years going around the
glove getting because there were probably somewhere between eighty two
one hundred permissions. I have a dossier this stick, you know,
of all Now, I could not find Colonel Jefferson. And
(22:40):
in fact, I think at the time there were only
five left of these duskegy Erman, right, and I couldn't
find them. So and I still remember this. It was
September of twenty twenty one, and very regretfully I took
the quote out of the book. And two weeks later Lisa,
I'm I had gone to DC for some client meetings.
(23:01):
I'm sitting down in the lobby of the hotel. I
was waiting for my two colleagues from General Electric to uh,
you know, to to join me. And down in the
reception there were you know, there were there were a
lot of other sofas, you know, which were nobody was
sitting there was just myself you know, sitting and these
four people came in, one in a wheelchair, and for
some reason unknown to me, they came up to me
(23:23):
and said, can we sip with you? And I said sure, yeah,
you know, no, no, no problem, and uh so I
know where this is going. So I noticed the gentleman
in the wheelchair, and naturally I got up to help him,
you know, get him out of the wheelchair. As I'm picking,
you know, helping him up, I now start to see
(23:43):
his gear, right, he had the nineteen forty nine top gun,
the P fifty one, you know, the the I just
quartered and I was frozen. I turned and I and
it was his daughter, Kathy, and I said is he
She said yes, he's a Tuskegee Airman. And it turned
(24:04):
out to be not gonna accusing, but you know, James
Harvey of the Tuskegee. And someday, Lisa, I'm going to
sit down and try and work the probability, the linked probability,
because of all the things that I tried to finally
giving up and here, you know, is one of the last.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Week because you finally surrendered, You finally surrendered. It seems
the universe gives us what we are manifesting when we
finally surrender. I think it was in my interpretation, it
was your body saying I'm ready because I don't need
this anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, you know, and I but what it did prove
to me is that and this really was a subconscious
manifestation of some sort that because you know, the mind,
the clearer you become, or the simpler you become, the
lesser you know, once your ego begins to drop, you
can project energy, you know, much more clearly. And somehow
(25:03):
these you know, energetic connections began to begin to align themselves.
And now you can call it a coincidence if you want.
But I one day I'll say that, maybe I'll go
to chat tputy and try the probabity to say but
regardless to say I it was one of the single
greatest evenings that we spent with Colonel Harvey, and I
(25:25):
mean and my colleagues joined in and we just had
a party listening to the life of this of this
great legend, you know. He he went on to do
one hundred and twenty six missions in Korea, and his
message to us was in my my colleague album Muller.
She was saying later she says, d I was getting
goosebumps listening to him because he said that always tried
(25:47):
to be the best despite the odds, and for him,
a problem a problem was no problem. It was just
something to be worked through and look at the simplest
you know, he had what I wrote about in in
UH in the in the six trigger points section called
it dynamic quietude, where you take your great knowledge acquired.
(26:09):
I mean, this is a man who flew thirteen different
types of aircraft, and you take this great knowledge acquired
and you clear out all the weed and the fluff
to be able to operate in the most efficient manner. Yeah,
and that's what that's what he did. So when I
look at his point, and he also said, he says
(26:29):
the packet, I've always believed in a good belly full
of laugh every day. There it is humor, right, and.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's not clear at the end of my day. I
just I watch really funny videos and I feel like
it grounds me. But I feel like in his case
and in many people who are enlightened and have transcended,
that they release all of the craft, the energy that's
built up inside, and then they're able to see a
problem as it is as just as just another.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Part of the journey.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So many of us, a problem arises and our insecurities
and all the things from the outside pop up in
our bodies and then it freezes us. So when we
get that, when we release that, then we have the
ability to see how it is.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And wow, what a powerful man.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh unbelievable and humble to the core.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And you know this.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I never asked him what his religious beliefs were. I didn't.
I didn't have to. This is just pure divinity in action,
you know online. And he was so he was detached
yet so loving, you know that. So when I when
I so to summarize and sorry for the you know,
for the Lentila, but I had to expound. You know
what both both these leaders were about. The first point
(27:46):
that comes across is that they both led from the front.
Right let from the front. You see what happens is
in life, you know, as a as a leader. If
you want to leave lead, don't talk too much, right
this is you you have to do. But the three
key takeaways, and you know, this is part of my
integrated studies across the mired professions. I is, I found
(28:07):
three that are very common leading from the front, of course,
and then these three. One is humility, humor, and dedicating
your life for something much larger than yourself, you see,
because when when the greatest leaders are those who rise
above the domain of expertise and give themselves, they go
(28:28):
from the eye into the wei to help others in life.
And that's why that's my story on the two of them.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Wow, that is just it. I almost have no words.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
How powerful is that like to be able to learn
from two icons who've been there, done that, who hold
that energy. We've all walked in a room where there's
been somebody that you're just incredibly drawn to and they
don't say a word, They're just standing there and you
can feel their sacredness, you can feel their knowing, and
(29:07):
it almost scares the crap out of me, you know, Like,
those people are just so powerful.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And I love how you highlight what true.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Leadership is because you and I can sit here and
talk about what true leadership isn't, but I'd rather not
even bring in that aspect of it, because I love
how you highlighted what true leadership is.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's exactly what you said.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
It's leading with love, it's standing in your power, having
no ego, but genuinely wanting to help the greater good
and holding that in your heart space. Yeah, that is
true leadership.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah. And you know the to add to what you said,
it's also you know, if you can find if you
can find a mentor or a guru that leads you
into your and not to them, you're very fortunate. And
that's what these great leaders embellish. They don't expect anything.
(30:09):
I'm must tell you very funny stories. So one of
the premiere swamis in India who oversaw my entire book
strategy for the past ten years. You know. I'd show
up four times a year and I present my charts
to him, you know, and he would just like pick
out mistakes and he said, this is good ad that
(30:30):
use this word. And all of a sudden, you know,
this began to come together. So I'm gonna tell a
very funny story. I you know, I met him a
couple of years back in Delhi and I was telling him.
I said, sir, you know, I'm so you know, despite
all my research, I got so many vices still and
you know, I'm confused, and you know they and I said,
(30:50):
you know, I got I got vices. For example, I'm
I'm still a non vegetarian, right, and he said, no problem,
just keep eating. I'm like, what, what did you just say? No, no,
just keep eating. He says. You know, the day that
you begin to feel sorry for the animal kingdom, he says,
(31:10):
you were naturally stup. And what he was really saying,
Lisa was that this is the delta between the suppression
of a desire versus a natural progression of the mind.
And he was talking that he come out of yourself,
you know, find the leader in you find your pathway.
That's really what he was saying. And I made the
(31:31):
leap a few months back. I was actually feeding a
cow and I saw the gentleness in its eyes, you know,
and and something just hit me. A lifelong non vegetarian
turned vegetarian like that. But then again again it was
years of thought. Leaser, it has to percolate, you know,
as Michael Jackson always said, let it similar.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's and but but you know these are you know,
they they these leaders, they've blazed up have the way
for us. Like for example, when you look at his
holiness of the Islam afterbet, you see their training. First
of all, he hides his knowledge through his humor. He's
very bubbly. You know, he's always if you watch something,
he's always, you know, laughing if you don't know. What
(32:14):
you don't know is that these these sages, they can
see you at various points of your life all together
is one. So they can tell instinctively that how to
tap into you. They make these minuscule adjustments into you
and off you go. I mean, goosebug just you know,
(32:36):
just thinking about it. But you know too, like like
like the Swami that I was telling you about, he
has be searched over one hundred thousand verses of Sanskrit,
you know, the linked into the into the rhythms of creation.
You know, they they can draw into that, into that divinity.
But you talk to them, they are absolutely humble, you know,
and their research swamis they they stay away from from
(32:58):
the public eye. They don't want to be found. But
if you can find them, it's just such a journey.
So you know, as part of this extraordinary journey, I mean,
I'm beginning to run into all these people incredible and
so hence I I just had to put the book out,
you know, and I'm doing everything for charity. Because I
have no I don't have the slightest interest in any
(33:19):
any gains of any sort, and asked question.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
That is beautiful. That is beautiful. So where can people
find your book?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
So it sound on Amazon and on multiple platforms. There's uh,
you know, Barnes and Noble, and I put it on
all the both in the versions and also the the
the print versions.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay, beautiful. What is some last minute? Do you have
any last minute thoughts before we say goodbye for the day.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, So, first of all, take the time to find yourself.
You know, there's a there's a leader lurking within you somewhere, right,
and this is particularly for the younger generation. Right. You
may be multi talented, but pick your top one or
two skill sets and then run with them. Because I
(34:08):
met so many people in my travels across what forty
five fifty countries who are so multi talented, but they
never devote enough time. They cannot devote enough time to
you know, each of their skill sets, and as a consequence,
they get very frustrated because they're not able to achieve what,
you know, what they want to do. So pick one
or two skill sets. Understand that within each of each
(34:31):
one of us like the leader. So for example, there
you know there are there are may so many forms
of leadership. You know, you can you can lead to
be a fireman, you can lead to be a public speaker,
you can lead to be you know, some people have
the courage to go defend others. You know they're some.
It's some end up being corporate leaders. Right, So experiment
(34:52):
and find who you are and couple that with humility
and gratefulness for what you have and you will find.
But also try and develop your situational awareness. And if
you can combine these factors that alone, right, the universe
will open up some very very interesting corridors of knowledge
(35:14):
for you.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Thank you so much for being here today and for
sharing your knowledge and your stories.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
It was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Well, thank you once again for having me, Liza. Really
it's an honor, and once again a big, big number
stay to all our friends out there. There is so
much hope for you. There's so much divinity within each
one of you. Just go tap into it and you'll
see wonders.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
To our audience, you just heard from d Listen to
his words and then go back and listen again, because
he just said some very very important things. Let's blaze
the way with humility and with love and with life.
Bye for now, Advisor family,
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