Are Unhealed Illnesses Really Caused By Hidden Sin

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For those of you who are listening to this episode,
you're not watching on video, you're listening. I want to
let you know I've got my hair down. I've got
my hair down. It is not on top of my
head up in a bun. It is not a pony tail,

(00:21):
if that's the thing. My hair is down and my
claws are out, and we're going in on this episode.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
This is going to be a mixed bag. A lot
of updates, a lot of things to talk about, and
so maybe some snacks. You have some snacks too, Yeah,
to share some snacks, lots of good stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
So welcome to the truth Sika and Aaron podcast. We
are excited and delighted to be here with you and
to have you on this journey with us man, and
we want to give you an update. One of the
biggest things I've even been seeing in the comments where
people are like, hey, give us an update, updates about
your leg. I didn't even post about my leg. I

(01:04):
suck with updates. We didn't even really post about the
plaque that we got, I know, you know, the YouTube plaque. Yeah,
I just suck with with updates. But this episode is
it's going to be an update it's going to be
a review on past episodes that we've done that that
kind of rubbed the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Definitely, I was okay with I'm not ashamed to say it.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
And I think at that those who keep up with us,
like already know what episodes we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, especially those that are in our community that we
meet with, because I've already talked about it on you know.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
So when the kind of three say the name three
two one ney it rhymes with that, I'm not going
to say their name, the person's name, I'm not going
to say their name, but I will say their initials,
and their initials are beat baby Carmichael.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
We're get to that. Stay tuned, but first we have
a retreat, yay retreat coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
People have been asking and asking, and you know, life
just gets uncertain sometimes, and this winter was very have diagnant, heavy,
a lot of death. Now we're coming into the spring
and the rebirth and raise God, we're feeling better. The
sun is out, the flowers are blooming, and the fragrance

(02:30):
is awesome and we feel it. We feel it in
our soul and we always look for synchronicities and always
look for confirmations of things before we try to jump in, right,
And we have always wanted to visit the Pacific.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Northwest after watching Twilight.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Especially Twilight.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Hey, So we got invited by a dear friend in
Grilla to collab. She really, I think, just wanted to
hang out and as we were talking, we're like, we
have to do this together.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
We've been trying to do this for a while though, yeah,
like at least a year.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, because she has an amazing place up there called
Kasa Condor, and she's a friend of the birds just
like us, and a lot of amazing encounters in nature
and with animals and plants and the stars happened there
on her property, her properties right at the base of
Mount Shasta, one of the most magical places in the

(03:34):
entire world. So anyway, we're going to be there Mount Shasta,
California in June, June twelfth through the fifteenth, and there's
an ad on day for the sixteenth for a ceremony
if you're interested, and all of the information, like a
deeper discussion of the things that we're going to be
doing there. And I must ask you a question, anyway,

(04:03):
can I have the one that goes up, go to
see your dot school and get your information in your tickets.
I hope you're watching this podcast because he just used
his dreadline to make a mustache and it was really funny.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Warrior mustags. Oh yeah, Corean Grillo Man, she's been a
friend of the show. She's been a friend of ours
for several years now. I had the opportunity to be
interviewed by her, to be a part of her online
community and share with her community her private Patreon kind

(04:38):
of thing over the years. I wrote the forward to
her book, at least one of them, Angel Magic. She
came out with Angel Wealth first talking about how to
work with angels to receive abundance, and then I believe
the second was Angel Magic. I believe maybe vice versa,

(05:01):
maybe vice versa, but I was asked the right the forward,
and so I just got to talk about Korinn and
her fascination and relationship with the Angelic. And then she
saw our videos recently of filming them, and we worked
with her behind the scenes, and she was trying to
coach coach me, coach us on putting out a course

(05:24):
to teach people how to film them, which I can
and I do, but when it was I think I
she tried to help me, help me keep it simple.
I just over thought of so I got halfway done
with the course and it never came out yet. But
she wanted to collab with the retreat so that we

(05:44):
could do it in person, because she sees stuff all
over her property and all around the mountain and in
the forest and in the clouds and everywhere. She's a seer,
she sees them. And the cool thing is that when
you know people aren't like real honed in on those
spiritual senses and they can't see that, well, sometimes you

(06:07):
just got to take people's word for it. And I
feel like we've been tricked a lot in that realm
in the church, Like, oh, there's an angel behind you, bro,
he's six foot seven, and so it's like, okay, cool,
it's a trapdoor above your head. I'm gonna pull it in.
The Holy Spirit is gonna fall on you. Okay, I'm
with it. But nothing like a lot of weird stuff.
But with this, we've learned how to film a lot

(06:30):
of different etheric beings, which we would call angels, celestials, elementals,
our helpers, And I've gotten pretty good at capturing them
on camera and teaching people how to do so. So
when she saw those videos of the Macapa video which
everybody saw, she's she's like, oh, we got to you
got to teach people how to do this, and you

(06:51):
got to teach me, and we got to do it
at the at the retreat. So a big part of
the treat we're going to do a workshop teaching people
how to do it. Will send everybody out with their
cameras literally with their cell phones. Yeah, capturing angelic etheric
beings with your cell phone. And then we'll come back
with a computer or a laptop and kind of go through

(07:11):
the process and see what people found and see what
they caught. And I tell you this, your mind will
be freaking.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Blown, probably just from looking at the photos. But then
when you are able to edit and change the lighting.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
And the speed.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, you can really see so much more that you
don't know, is there.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, talk about like your picture the other day just
in the car.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
So we get our water, our drinking water from a spring,
and it's like almost like a spiritual pilgrimage when we go.
We are very earthminded, thanking the earth for purifying the water.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Cloud minded, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I mean just we're very in tune with nature and
being grateful. And on the way home, we were on
the bridge coming home across the bay and there's a
cent v of birds flying over the bridge over the car.
So I just took out my phone and tried to
snap a photo. And in the photo you can barely
see the birds. They're kind of like just a little

(08:12):
gray v. But you can see all of this amazing
white etheric swirling energy almost around the birds in the photo.
And I just snapped it with my phone. It's not
edited at all, and you know, people could explain it
away and say, oh, well there was something on the

(08:33):
windshield or oh that's a cloud. No, there were no
clouds in the sky. It was all we saw were
the birds. But the camera picked up something different and
something magical, and it's just.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That ature most likely some type of spirits or essence
that the birds were guiding to the afterlife, to their
next incarnation, yeah, bringing them some where as being a
you know, spiritual occult nerd that I am of of

(09:07):
just occult knowledge or old books. All the religions talked
about it, including the Bible, which is the cool thing.
So that that was really cool. You caught that on
on camera and corin Is is really close to the birds.
So I just know that this is going to be
a magical time at this retreat. It was something that's

(09:31):
that that's simple that you was able to do, but
you can get really advanced with with some of the filming.
So that's gonna be fun. Always is I love to
show off my skills and uh so, yeah, so the
retreat doing that, it's gonna be a concert, truth to

(09:53):
get airing concert. We're gonna.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Maybe yeah, you're gonna be saying even more, Yeah, gathering
the flowers, you know, we we we're gonna freestyle like
we did last night.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Maybe that was kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Actually it was, yeah, Yeah, that was cool, so we'll
do that. We ought to do that on camera, like
right now, No, you're not putting me on the spot
for that. I sound it so bad. It was fun though,
But we were singing the orphic hymns, just going through
all of the hymns to the Gods to a beat
that I made and just some auto tune and just singing,

(10:29):
and it was just kind of trying to find a
way to rhyme and cadence them and it was really
cool because you're.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Learning, Yeah, listening and trying to guess which one it's about.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Oh, and that's what we're doing. Yeah, that was trying
I guess, like I would just pick one and she'd
have to guess who it was and vice versa. So yeah,
we will be doing a concert. We will be doing
sacred sound immersions, so singing bowls, all that good stuff.
Letting you have a encounter with the angelic through sound. Yep,
because this whole retreat is focused on angelic connection and

(11:05):
communion and we commune in so many ways. The name
of the retreat is Ecstasia Shasta, and Ecstasia is divine ecstasy,
religious ecstasy or religious rapture that all the saints wrote about.
And it's a euphoria that they would generate when they

(11:28):
would think about the Lord, when they would talk about
spiritual matters and talk about spiritual things. And that has
been a theme I think at all of our retreats.
It's probably a theme at every church on every Sunday morning,
every religious gathering, right, some type of divine ecstasy when
you get in the flow and hope is there and stuff,

(11:50):
but when you go above and beyond to try to generate, facilitate,
and also this is going to be deep, but offer
it to the angels. So with this feeling that we
generate within us, it draws in the angelic.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah. And I just want to share a little something
about communion that was imparted to me recently. If you're
from the church realm, just throw out the ideas that
you have about communion because every church I've ever been
in communion is such a solemn, sad, sad, shameful. It's

(12:31):
a very somber practice where you sit and you have
to review the sins that are in your life. And
there's a scripture in the Bible that says if you
eat it unworthily, if you partake unworthily, then you're eating
and drinking condemnation upon yourself. Did I say that right?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So that part about unworthily. You have to step into
who you were created to be. You have to embody
Christ and embody who God created you to be, which
is a powerful, amazing force to be reckoned with. We're
here to do greater works than Christ. And Christ is

(13:16):
celebrated by so many people, even many religions celebrate Christ
for all that he did. And we're to do greater things.
So just throw out that that shameful where you're you're
kind of beating yourself up because you know you're unworthy
to partake.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
And flip it. Beggar a beggar, flip it and and.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
See it as the feast that the Father gives you
to partake with him of pure joy and pure love,
and it will bring you into a state of ecstasy
instead of shame.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's like it's it's it's almost like it's a must,
like this thing that seals the deal. So it's like
whatever you're feeling at the moment, when you partake it
like it, you imbibe it and it becomes a part
of you. So if there's this unworthiness, I'm always messing up. God,

(14:11):
please have mercy on me. Like that's okay, trust me,
Like those feelings are okay before. Yeah, so if you
want to examine yourself before, but when it comes time
to partake in this, in this this communion, the communion
is oneness with God. You're not below God, you're not
above God. He calls you up higher and to become

(14:32):
one with Him. So that's the energy, that's the essence
to partake and commune with him to even the word communication.
We know that we found out later in the Book
of Acts and in Corinthians when it speaks of let
your communication be the that of heaven. That means your residence,
that means the place where you are engaging from. You're

(14:56):
not a beggar on earth. You are one with Christ,
called to do great and mighty things. You are the
righteousness of God created inside Christ Jesus to do great
and mighty things like eat to that, like I'll drink
to that, like exactly, yes, that's what. And then that's

(15:17):
what communion is.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
It's it's just ecstasia, it stasis, because what happens when
you do that, Like first, we're going to generate bad
feelings and it's good, Like it's a good thing to
generate bad feelings.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I think it's good so that you can get rid
of them and then to generate the good. It's like
the gospel is I was but now but now I'm this.
I was once lost, but now I'm found. I was
once destined for whatever, Now I'm destined for something better.

(15:54):
And uh. And so when you partake, you generate that
energy and you steal it and let it become a
part of you. So we're going to be doing that.
We're going to be doing that with cacal ceremony, which
is what we always do, through breath work, through prayer communion,
which is so powerful. I'm going to reach out to

(16:17):
some of the folks who came to the last one
just because if you're listening to this, please send us
a testimonial, because we get testimonials like that are just
cheery eyed and just letting people know that they had,
like their lives were changed from these encounters. And you know,

(16:38):
I was like, hey, put that on video for me,
send it me. You know, it's kind of you know,
you don't want to do that, But in this case,
I'm going to reach out to some people just because
other people need to hear it. Other people need to
hear it because they're going through the same things and
they need they need hope restored, they need marriages restored,
they need their childlike awe and wonder restored. They need

(17:00):
youthfulness vigor restored, and they need wonder restored. And that
nothing less than any of that stuff is what this
retreat is about. Yeah, it's so if you're supposed to go,
you already know we're not trying to sell you anything.

(17:21):
You already know. You've been wanting to come, you've been asking,
you've been thinking about it. The finances are lined up.
You got a peace in your spirit. It won't leave
you alone when you go to sleep, like you already know.
So if it's you, we can't wait to see you.
I can't wait to meet you. Give you a big
hug and let you film address. I know you can't

(17:44):
touch the dreads. You have to ask. Just don't grab them.
We're not going to go there. No, uh huh no, dreads.
Don't touch my husband's dreads. Just say it. Don't touch
my husband's dreads. Ask first.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Harr's an extension of the nervous system. Okay, we have
to be careful. We talked about this just recently.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah. Anyway, there's a retreat coming up. Go to to
seer Dot School and get your ticket now. Cuts.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, they're limited. So if you really are one of
those people who is called to come, jump on it.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
So it's at Mount Shasta. Like most people know Mount
Shasta for UFOs and for spiritual energy and vortex. I
know it for that too. I've never been, but I
wrote about it in a song you want to hear it?
Here it go. I don't know the beginning part that
leads up to it. I'd have to jog my memory.
But UFO's up top Mount Shasta, Cherryt's a fire travel

(18:46):
down and save us from disaster. I wish I'm going
to do the song. Yeah you have you have to,
oh yeah, and then and that's when the UFO comes,
just so everybody knows, like when I do that song,
be looking Charriots, A fire traveled down and save us
from disaster. Another decision, sending the plane that the reconsnsion.

(19:07):
Another decision, the things I've seen. If I should mention,
I don't know. You gotta know because you can't listen. Pauses.
I'm getting on to you, getting at your but you
can't just stand there when I'm rapping. You have to wrap.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
I'm not good at rapping, you're good at repeating. Okay,
I'll learn this practice again. Another decisions, sending the plane
that there re concension. Another decision, the things I've seen
I can't If I should, I can't mention.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I forgot the lyrics.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's the new lyric, that probably should be the new lyric.
That's all you do make it up, make it up.
As long as it runs, as long as there's an
engine in it, as long as it is there's an
unction for the funk.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Speaking of functions, Okay, get me, how is the knee?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's up, thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
So, in case you don't know, he had a cl
reconstructed surgery.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I'm gonna try to help. Huh.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Look at that. Look at that leg. That's an expensive
leg there, buddy.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'm bended like this is the most I can bend
right there. Okay, I want my money back, baby, go ahead,
keep it now.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
But he had acl reconstructive surgery. It was an old
basketball injury, something that went untreated, and.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Then twenty seventeen ish.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
The injury got worse over time. Just we were at
the beach and he was walking and the sand shifted
and his knee twisted and caused a further injury. So
had to have something done about it because it was
starting to impede his daily life. And it's been a
rough process, very painful surgery. Probably the first week after

(21:00):
was very rough. And then he had it also an
allergic reaction. We had to rush to the emergency room.
It was quite scary, but God brought him through all
of that.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I felt like I felt like something coming up was
coming out of me. I felt like something left.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Me, like a spirit, something spiritual. Yeah, it was scary.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I looked like, hell you did?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You look like somebody had beat you, beat you. You
had whelps all over your face.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was embarrassed the way I looked like. I was
like death. It's crazy. Four o'clock and in one I
was excited to wake up early, went to the bathroom
and then got back in bed for a minute and
just started being itchy, a little bit more itchy, and
then everything was itchy, and then my lips were swollen

(21:47):
and it's hard to breeze, And yeah, I had to
be rushed to the hospital at four.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Am, but they treated him. Everything was fine. He felt
much better after that, and honestly, it seems like it's
been a constant getting better since then.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah. When I first had the surgery, my knee was swoll,
like my whole leg was swoll. It was scary looking.
It was bruised, and then if you.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Were upright too long, your whole foot and ankle and
everything would swell.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, it was a hard two weeks. It's still hard.
But it's way better. Yeah, it's good enough that we're
planning a retreat.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
And that was the thing too. I wanted to see
how the surgery was going to go. I was playing
for surgery back in January, right December, or was it
before that? It was December, you.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Would have been exactly six weeks post off for the
trip to Greece.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
We they wanted to do the surgery in December, and
I said yes, but then I said, no, let me
rethink it, let me try to do some holistic things
if I can. And then we had we had our
Colorado retreat coming up. And then right after that, two
weeks after that, I guess it was, we had the Grease,

(23:15):
our Grease trip, and so I didn't want to be,
you know, messed up for that. I didn't want anything
to get in the way of that. So we ended
up postponing it, just putting it off, trying to do
holistic things, and then it just it never got better.
Like I would get relief from the pain, but the
stuff in there would never fix. So my leg would

(23:39):
go out just walking. If I turned the wrong way
and pivot it, my knee would buckle and I would
fall because the pain's excruciating, and I couldn't use the
leg anymore. And so I would still, you know, cut
grass and do yard work, and I would climb on
the roof with a blower and knowing like I had

(24:01):
to stay straight, I had to walk on an incline
and so my knee turned it all I was I
would fall off the roof. So, yeah, it was pretty
stupid to do that, but I did it.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
And especially when your wife is like, I'll do anything,
just please.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Tell me to get up there and clean the roof.
Why is the look at the gutter?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Lord, don't let lightning strike.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Let it. Lightning is awesome, powerful jest. Anyway, it's it's
it's way better. It is not healed. It's still painful.
I'm supposed to still be on crutches.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Supposed to.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, I took I took a walk a couple of
days ago to the park with Aaron. We walked to
the park, which is something we love to do. And
I had a crutch. Yeah, I did a lap with
a crutch and was able to do it. And then
yesterday I did a lap without a crutch and I

(25:09):
did good. You did.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I'm just trusting you that you're going to trust your
body did and it.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Was swollen up when I got home. It swoll up
on me and it may be still a little swollen,
but it's going to do that. I think it's gonna fluctuate. Yeah,
that's how that's how you you know, that's how you
work a muscle out. That's right, Strain it, let it rest,
strain it rest.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Everything has a purpose.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
So yeah, yeah, that's where we're at. So as far
as the leg, the transition from the leg and if
you guys saw the last interview was with Batty Carmichael,
a faith healer, uh, and we had a fun talk.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I loved the talk like I was people watching, Like
my enthusiasm was real. We talked about them. I didn't
know it was going to be a demon talk. I
thought it was going to be just a wellness book
or something. So we interviewed him about his book what
I did, and so we talked about demons and how

(26:14):
demons get access to people for unconfessed sins and just
saying that you can't pray them away, Yeah, which is
what I like. It's just something I've always brought up
for a long time, like hold on, maybe this demon
or this thing is in your life to teach you
a lesson, and maybe God sent it. It's a whole
another story, but that's what I believe. And I've caught

(26:37):
a lot of pushback from the church and from the
mystic community for that idea for years. I still believe it,
and I still believe it to be true. I think
a lot of people are maybe waking up to some
of that, and so Bed was able to kind of
obet He was able to kind of lean into that
conversation a little bit. Oh yeah, that's in your life
for a reason. Most most of the time unconfessed sin,

(27:00):
most of the time unforgiveness. And I can ride with
some of that, Right, you got unforgiveness. It's like drinking
a deadly poison and hoping somebody else gets hurt. Yeah,
but you're the one drinking the poison. You're the one
unforgiveness in your heart, and it is It's not good.
You know. There's rules to that. There's rules that demonic
spirits and unclean spirits get access to you for harboring

(27:24):
ill will towards another and having the evil eye towards somebody.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
These things attract those things that love, you know, love
jealousy and love evils and love hatred and unforgiveness. That
there are beings that love that stuff and it attracts them.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, just like we were talking about how your beautiful
energy attracts angels that come down. It's the same with
the negative energy and the negative thoughts exactly. So we
had a fun conversation. I tried to wrap the interview up.
I think we did like an hour, an hour and
fourteen minutes it was, and then you can you can
see me in the podcast, and I usually, like I've

(28:05):
done so many podcasts, I'm like a I'm mechanical with it.
All right, brother, thanks for coming on. Tell everybody where
to get the book. And if you want to say
a prayer, you know, could we just ended at that, man,
thank you so much. We'll have to do it again.
Wait wait, wait, can we do it? I have a
couple more things.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Can we do?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
We have time to to say a prayer for you?
And uh sure. And he had just went on this
like really long, like rant, not rant Bible study. He
shared scriptures, but he just kept sharing them and it
was it just felt like it took a long time.
And sometimes when stories or things get drawn out the monotony,

(28:46):
people lose focus. So I kind of felt that, and
then I felt like I felt like the interview was over.
Tried to end it, Hey, can I just have another minute?
Every time? Can I pray for you? Sure? That interview
that that uh prayer lasted about forty minutes, thirty something minutes,

(29:06):
and he was praying for me, praying for my leg
to be healed, and you know, lead me through his
process and I went through the process to forgive and
repent and all that, and and maybe it's my fault
because I said, uh, like I had the I had
it on my cast on like all day and I

(29:27):
hadn't tried walking without the cast on. And he's like,
all right, go ahead and check it out and see
if it feels any better. I was like, actually, it's
it does. And I don't know if it was from
the prayer. I think it was from the day before,
because like each day it would get better and I
can actually walk. I was able to walk on it
without pain, which which you know whatever. He's like, well,

(29:50):
we want to completely healed. You know, what's your range
of motion? I was like, oh, well, a range of
motion like I can barely, you know, I can't. I
can't bend it, like for real. He's like, all right,
we're gonna pray for that. We need you to repent again.
We need you to We're gonna pray again that that
thing is gonna go. And so anyway, it was kind
of drawn out. I let him do it, and I

(30:11):
received the prayer like I like prayer.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
You know, God can perform miracles, totally.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, God can, but he didn't. It was something that
already happened, and I'm just gonna have to heal from it.
I have to learn to heal. So it was over,
interview was done, and so he told me he was
like I told him. I said, well, brother, I already

(30:38):
know what I want to name this interview. I'm gonna
name this something about, you know, how to get free
from demons, because that's pretty much what you talked about,
Like we talked about how to get free from you know,
unclean spirits and demons in your life that are haunting
you and showing up in your room at night, Like
that's what he shared those stories. He's like, no, no, no, no,
I got a better idea. Let's let's name it. Podcast

(31:00):
host gets miraculously healed on camera. I said, nah, I
think the demon thing will be better, just because you know,
people really like those episodes, they like talking about that stuff,
so we'll name it that and then as they're watching
then they're finding a formula on how to get free.
I think it'll do good. And it was just we
just ended it at that, right, and then you want

(31:23):
to say what we googled and found? Maybe we can Yeah,
I don't know if we could play it. Do you
want to play it?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Not really, well, just tell everybody. I don't really want
to promote it, right, because it'll give them.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Views, honestly. But so yeah, before the interview came out,
we were looking his name up just to find out a.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Little more about them, the pictures.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And stuff, pictures and bio and stuff like that. And
we see that he secretly recorded the podcast.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Oh, I didn't know he was recording.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You're not supposed to, like when you come on our show,
sign a release. You sign a release that says that
we own the footage, that we're allowed to clip it
and use it however we see fit, and that it's
our intellectual property, like it's our property because this is
what we do for a living, and you can get
in a lot of trouble if you don't have that,
So it's on every consent form anyway. He secretly recorded

(32:16):
the episode, clipped it very badly, like some clips only
have you saying one word or two words consecutively, and
then smushed it together to make it sound like you
said your leg was completely healed. And he put it
out with his own little intro and outro promoting his book,
saying that he healed you through this prayer on camera,

(32:40):
and the title of it is torn acl miraculously healed
on camera.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
What he wanted me to name the episode, and he
put that out before the official yeah episode came out.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
So a lot of things wrong there. But the reason
I am so angry about it is because there's a
few reasons. One, God totally does miracles. He totally heals
people miraculously, unexplainably. We've seen it, and I don't I

(33:13):
think it does God an injustice to lie about it.
People are not stupid, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
They are, That's what I said. That's what I'll try
to say people. People aren't stupid. They're not gonna but
they will. You know what I'm saying it's like people
are gonna because would you want to believe that people
aren't stupid? They're gonna know that that was piece of stupid.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
They're they're gullible.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
I'll say that they're gonna watch it and say, you know,
and because you want to believe these truth.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Seeker was healed by this guy praying and buy the
book off of that.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
But then if they see you on a crutch in public,
then what like, then I send again, Then you look
like a liar because your face is on this video vouching, yeah,
vouching and saying these things that you didn't really say.
So I really don't like your face being on something
that's a lie. And then two I worked with special
needs kids for fifteen years and the whole process of okay.

(34:10):
Sometimes sometimes illness comes in through unforgiveness, through trauma, through
demonic oppression. Sometimes it does, but not every time. You
can't just say like you're sick because of unrepented sin, or.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
You're not healed because you don't have enough faith, or you're.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Not healed because you don't have enough faith, or your
parents must have done something really bad for that to
be that to be your your health story, your health
can Yeah, all of these things, I feel like totally
gaslights people who have injuries or have illnesses that they
cannot control, because sometimes they can't. And it really bothers

(34:59):
me when people tried to say that it's because of
sin or unforgiveness, because sin is such like a it's
a nasty word in the church, you know, it just is.
Sin is that word you don't want to be associated with.

(35:21):
And I mean the these illnesses. I mean I was
sick and he prayed for me too, which I appreciated
because I felt really bad. That's why I wasn't on
that episode. I was dealing with sinus infection and coughing.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
That I started dealing with it right after. So we've
been going through some sicknesses and yeah, we've been going
through a bunch.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
But you know, I mean, sickness in itself is not
even bad, Like it's a symptom of something. There was
something in my body that shouldn't be there. It needed
to come out, and it came out through a process
like That's probably why it wasn't miraculously healed, because it
was something that was serving a purpose. But anyway, that's
my little spiel. I don't like it. It was a
total lie and it was fabricated and done without permission,

(36:05):
and I just I don't. I don't like that whole
process of basically accusing people of having hidden sin because
they have an illness. That's not my jam.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
So Aaron has a had a bone to pick with
that episode or with that clip. Yeah, but we digress.
I'm gonna I'm gonna turn the table a little bit, please,
I'm gonna turn it on you, okay, because I caught
you in a lie. I you you released a video

(36:41):
that you spent your time to edit. You just put
out a video called the Courtesy Drop. Has this ever
happened to you? And you explained how in an old
episode that we did, how you would go to church
and somebody have their and on your head praying for you,

(37:02):
and they're trying to push you down, and you can
feel it because then they get they start pushing harder
and harder and they and then they doesn't. There's usually
a dude behind you too, like pushing your lower back,
so like the head's going going back and that the
body standing still, and it makes makes you want to
fall back. Like it's just like inertia balance.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, and and we've been we've had crazy. We could
do a whole episode on the crazy church stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
We should we do it in a minute, crazy church culture.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Roy Mortha, I think anyway, it's not about Roy Mortha
or the pastors. It's about you because your video was
your video was not accurate, the evidence was insufficient, it
was far fetched, and you were lying because you've said

(37:55):
I've never given a curtag when you just talked about Listen,
you just talked about sin. The Bible says that sinners
will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven. You forgot. Don't worry.
I do it all the time. Okay, remind me say

(38:15):
you never gave a courtesy drop. You don't remember I
told her. I told everybody on Seer School a couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
It was not a courtesy drop. Listen, that was a
courtesy squat.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, no, listen, you fell No. Aaron was at a
Benny hen crusade in two thousand and one with me.
We loved I loved Benny hent She just tagged along,
did you love Benny Henton? Yeah? Okay, so we love
Benny hen and so He's like, I want all the youth,

(38:47):
all the young people in the City of Mobile, come
down to the front. Let's get all the young were like, oh, yeah,
we get it because we was up in the those bleeds.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Oh we get to go to closer and get closer
to the anointing. Yeah. And so we're like the old people,
even oldieople were with. Sometimes the old people try to
get in the I'm a child at heart. They're like, no, sir,
you got to so you're not a young person, we
need uh, you know, eighteen and younger. It was okay,
we were young, young bucks. But so we go to

(39:15):
the front. So it's like the at the front altar area,
all young people, all the youth group kids were there
and we were with them, and there's like Benny Hint's
preaching and I said, I declare this generation of Mobile
the fire of God on Mobile.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
And the fire on your life fire.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
And he like you know, waved his hand and the
wave happened. So the kids in the front, everybody started
falling back, and it was dom and you can see
it like dominoes is like a wave of just everybody
collapsing in front of you. And it gets closer to you.
Now it's your turn. And like me, I'm so much
of a glory hog, like I want to fall, I

(39:57):
want the I want the anointing. The upper cut me
choked me in and kicked me in the button fall
out in slow motion, and that's what happened. It came.
I'm expecting it. So there's a little placebo that happens
as well. There's a little bit of that because the
whole wave of children just I'm not children people. They

(40:20):
all fell backwards and I fell with them. Everybody fell,
like hundreds of kids except Aaron. Aaron withstood the holy
ghost and so she just stood there looking around, and
then finally she just real slow just kind of sat
down and squatted down to make it look like she

(40:42):
wasn't standing up anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
So anyway, I say that I think I had a
demon or something because I didn't fall down.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I say that's a courtesy drop, Okay, is it?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I call it a courtesy squat. I didn't give it
to him. I mean, well, I guess I kind of did.
I just didn't want to be singled out the only one.
I'm so scared. Yeah, because Bennie Hannon, there's like literally
probably thousands of down here, and I'm the only one.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
The only reason she didn't follow because she has a demon.
That's what they would would have said. But that, you know,
I loved Benny hand but that that was the first
time we saw him. I loved this book. His book
was really good. Good Morning, Holy Spirit, and Welcome, Welcome
Holy Spirit, Good Morning, Holy Spirit, and the Anointing, and

(41:34):
those those three books are phenomenal, phenomenal books about just him,
his interactions with the Holy Spirit, spending hours locked in
his room and that kind of thing. But he uh,
who Remember they got the synth playing real soft key
high key, and the lights are down, real low, and
they're praying, and he starts praying real quiet. We've come

(41:59):
now to appreciate aesthetic. We come now to appreciate what's
called dramaturgy, which is set set in setting is what
we call in the mushroom community, right, And those are
a key, you know, set in settings got to be key.
You can't be listening to gwar yeah and stuff and
eat mushrooms, right, just so like with the Holy Spirit

(42:22):
and Benny Hinch Crusade, you can't be listening to goar.
You know, you got to listen to a certain piano.
It has to be in a certain key. It's to
be in a high key or a minor key to
make you really introspective or whatever. So he's good at that.
You can just watch any of his stuff. He sets
the setting with the music, the lights, the choir is

(42:43):
saying in the cameras zoom in on people having a
personal moment, crying and stuff like that, so that you know,
the anointing can flow and people can have an experience,
because that's what it's about. You go there for an experience.
So I go there for God. O there to experience God. No,
I just want to go hear the gospel. You're not

(43:04):
hearing the gospel at Benny has just shut up. You
gotta be a Baptist church for that. Uh So. Anyway,
that's that poortion is going on. It's real soft and
here like this is the moment, the moment we've all
been waiting for. Dear Jesus, Holy Spirit, we invite you here,

(43:27):
Dear Lord, touch hearts, Dear Lord, touch hearts. God listen.
I'm not mocking. I love. I pray like that. Touch
harsh Lord, Lord may be healing you as I'm, you know,
saying this, but you know, people are crying all over
the place. People are having a genuine encounter. But then
this baby started crying, like way up in the rafter,

(43:49):
like this baby guy was up there. I don't know
how the baby got up there.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I'm sure it was with this mom.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
And then what did what did he say?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
He was praying? He said, Dear Jesus, and the baby's
like he went, somebody shut that baby up right now?
Did you say like the baby will not hold back
the anointing or something like that. I was like, whoa what?
Like it just like completely shook us.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
It was weird because it shook us just for a
moment because then because then mob mentality, you're like.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, yeah, get the baby out of there.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
People like yeah, there's a nursery downstairs, nursing mother shit
like and everybody's like, get the baby out because you
always you know how it is when you have a baby,
like you and your baby starts crying in the middle
of a church service, like you feel like, oh god,
you do not everybody feels that. Some people don't give

(44:48):
a damn, But we're like, oh god, we're disrupting the service.
We need to get the baby out. Yeah, this lady didn't.
It's like, I'm watching her experience. My baby needs a miracle.
Yeah up, my baby stay please. But he's like, shut
that baby up. He literally said that and pointed to
the baby, and I'm like, Oh, this isn't gonna make

(45:08):
it on TV. They're not putting this one. His mobile
event will not be on TV. It was, but it
was edited at that part was not on there. Yeah,
it's so weird of like this the mob mentality, people like, yeah,
get that baby out of here, you dummy.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, it was very strange. I just I remember being
totally shocked when it happened.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
It was like that meeting a lot of people, a
lot of preachers in person. Bob Larson was that way
for us. We're you know, we had our own reasons.
We're pressed for time and stuff. But he sold his
books and phone calls and stuff for like forty five
minutes straight before he even got into anything. Then we
got to kind of see his dramaturgy that you don't

(45:53):
really get to see on camera anyway. We kind of
lost a little bit of respect for Bob Lawson. And
this was in two thousand and one. Like this was
all No, No, it wasn't. It was two thousand and
four because was just borna was a couple of months old,
because we had to get back home to get her.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
So you know, you they tell you not to meet
the people you look up to, and I know, I
know people meet me and feel the same way. So
hopefully this portion of the podcast, me telling jokes, me
saying a curse word, me eating the mushroom, me being this,

(46:36):
not this perfect saint that people think I am, or
or think that I meditate all day. No, shout out
to our gaming homies. Yeah, let me give a shout out.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, Sammy, Emily and Michael Cheeky, cheeky. There are buddies online.
We have a lot of good conversations with them, and
our little friendship means.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
We play video games and we and I'm really good
at video games and I'm really Why are you laughing?
And you're like holding back a laugh.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
You are good, You're better than me.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
You are.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Let's do the let's do let's do the Bobby interview.
Can you think I can do it? Let's do it
to each other. Do what Bobby?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Bobby? Who's Bobby?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
That girl? Oh? Bobby. Let's do the Bobby interview, like
interview me about let's talk about my you know, I'm
a you know, I'm a musician. I do music.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
What did they say? I ain't no magician. I don't
What do you think I have magic?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Once a magician? I ain't no magician. I'm sorry. I'm
gonna do Bobby to you there, because you obviously don't
know how to do Bobby. May do Bobby, tell me something,
tell me something good. I'm gonna do how you do
me on Thursday nights, that's pretty much Bobby. You have
to be there. You have no idea what we're talking about.

(48:07):
We're inside joking this thing on our Patreon and see
your school. We hang out every Thursday night and Sunday rising.
We have like a church service and church service on
Sunday kind of thing. It's very more spiritual, devotional, really
good conversation that everybody's fresh out of bed, just woke up,
still half a sleep, drinking coffee and just sharing random revelation.

(48:28):
Really fun. Yeah Sundays and then Thursdays it's like most
people are tired and getting through the week and we
just hang out.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
And the share encouragement and watch funny videos sometimes and.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I'll say something funny, witty, deep, super spiritual, and I
can see Aaron on the camera with me, and she looks.
She looks the other way when I say something.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
It's usually when you're making fun of me, because I
don't like being the expense of the joke.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
No, I think you're just looking at a different part
of the screen sometimes and it just looks like that
because we're so close to the screen. So if we
were looking into the camera, So this is what happens
if those of you watching me, this is what happens.
So this is how we're looking at the camera and
you and so I'm looking and then you talk so
it shows you.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Okay, So I'm talking in the camera and we're talking
about deep spiritual topics.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And what and then look and then just cut your
say something and then cut, then look look at something
else like that. You have to say something so the
camera goes to you unless you want to edit it.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Okay, So we'll just be talking, like for instance, Thursday,
I made him some hot tea and he asked me
what was in it? And I told him what was
in it?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
You made me loopy, I think, and it was.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
All natural stuff, nothing weird. And he says, that's what
they all say. So I found something else on the
screen to look at because I'm thinking, Okay, now he's
joking about me poisoning him in our community.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
And she saw how she just cut her eyes.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I just looked at the screen.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Don't look at the screen with the camera.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
But anyway, Yeah, contact.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
That's what we do on Thursday nights. And then we
get the joke about it here. So that's how you
get in on that inside joke is just to hang
out with this.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
We do have fun.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
We have some cool people, Yeah, we do. We just
got a letter. We just got a letter. We just
got a letter. I wonder what's from goots?

Speaker 6 (50:39):
We got a letter, buddy, I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Get it much.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
When you start opening that, he's gonna wake up.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Just can our address on here? Our address is on here?
But all I do I want you to see the
address three three three baby, three three three babies a
god thing. This is from a company called ARTSA. So
they reached out to us and sent us a box

(51:07):
filled with stuff. I don't know exactly what all is
in it. We're about to find out together. Yeah, And
they sent us a promo code, So if you want
what's in this box, we have a promo code and
a link that will put in the description where you
can get like twenty percent off whatever's in this box.
I don't I don't know what's in it. I did

(51:29):
a little research into the company. Aaron did did more
than me. Yeah, and there's a lot of different stuff.
It's kind of so we they might not like this
as a promo. This little guy here, the little man
that's sleeping. It's our dog. You can't see him, you
can hear him sniffing. But he gets a box box

(51:52):
every few months. Can't afford every month, so we get
every other month.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
They just the trees just started piling up and stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
So he gets cool treats. But the toys he gets
are awesome. This is a toys got right now, goose.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
He hate the squeaker out of it.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
He eats the squeakers out of them. But the bark
box quality is amazing, and he gets a package and
he loves it. So I feel like this is like
a bark box for people who are spiritual and want
stuff from the Holy Land. So I'm going to hand
it over to you. Yeah, and I know that they
have some kind of like food. They have some art

(52:31):
stuff in there. It's called artsa. I don't know if
that's what they're's supposed to mean.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
So Artza is the Hebrew word from Genesis. I'll read
the scripture because it's really neat Genesis twelve, verse three
through five. I will bless those who bless you, and
all the families of the earth shall be blessed through you.
And they went out towards the land. The word towards

(52:56):
the land in Hebrew is artza, So that's why they
named it that, because it kind of focuses your attention
towards the Holy Land, towards the place Jesus lived and walked.
And you know, there is something powerful about putting your
feet on the same earth that these you know, amazing

(53:21):
powerhouses walked like. It's a different feeling. So to have
items from that area too, that are crafted from that area,
made from the plants in that area, it's just a
little special and you can feel it. And these are
all going to be from local artisans there in Israel.
They started this, I believe when COVID happened, because people

(53:43):
were really needing work and needing to get their products out,
so they did it through the mail so that they
could continue to make an income for their families and stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I love hearing those stories of people and bosses and
just coming together creatively to do things to get to
get through. Yeah, you know that setback that we all
went through together.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Because that was tough. So I'm just going to open
it up.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Goose is looking on this one. What is it?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Goose? So there's a lot of different things in here,
and they have a little book that kind of goes
through and talks about each thing, and it shows you.
He has pictures of the artisans in here. He's smelling it,

(54:35):
and they have scriptures that they share. Goose. I know
there's chocolate in here and you cannot have it, buddy.
And this is another This is an art piece that's
in here, so it kind of shows the process of
how they made it.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Really need to get him on camera. He got he's
laying his head in the bodom.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Is he looks so cute?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Use your cell phone you can't see you just get
a little little footage that we can add in.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, Goose, you want to buy to what's in the bar?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Maybe?

Speaker 6 (55:10):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
All right, So the first thing you gotta stop. This
is halla coating, which is the bread they eat for Shabbat.
It's got a lot of different herbs and spices in it.
Smell yeah, crack it open.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
You want some Holla. That what it's called.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
You're supposed to say like halla.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Halla. Oh, well that does smell good. So this would
so this would be like on the unloven bread that
we would.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
No, no, that braided. Remember the braided bread that we
always had during Shabbat for convenion. That's what you put on.
You put it on.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
No, it's not on living The Brady bread wasn't because
it smells very similar to what we used to have.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
No, unliving bread is just a certain time of year.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I want to smell the buddy, I want to smell.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I haven't smelled it.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
You got his whole nose in here.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Oh yeah, this will be good on top of my
sour day.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
You can't put it on there now right. You have
to cook bake it in yeah, because you just made
some fresh sourdough. Look what, watch buddy disappearing out? I
see it? Okay, what else we got? Got a candle holder?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
This is a candle holder says God saw that the
light was good, and he separated the light from the
darkness Genesis one for And it's a really pretty little
candle holder.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Nice. Oh wow, that's uh. That like flowers. The geometric
flowers are dope. It looks like something from Alex Gray.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
It says. The floral pattern is inspired by the vibrant
flowers of Israel, reflecting the natural beauty of the land
where the story of the Bible unfolded. And then this
one's really cool too. This is a serving tray and
it's got art on it as well. And it is

(57:33):
the seven Days of Creation.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
That is dope. Yeah, And Scott, I'm assuming this is
the the artist artist name who drew it to one.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, Emanuel, it's the artist name.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I know you guys can see that. Who are watching, Scott? Yeah?
Each one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven Am
I beginning at it right.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah. It's kind of abstract but super cool.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
And then this is a little fish, the moon, the
stars and water.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
This is a little journal with different scriptures and things
in it. This is really pretty.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
It's got some.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Gold embossing on the front.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I like, I like how it feels.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
It feels like more natural natural.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
This is just a journal or like a prayer journal. Yeah,
because it's got all the months and days in it.
This feels really cool. I really like this. What is it?
What is this paper called? Because it's really soft, I
don't know, like that, Are you going to use this

(58:52):
or can I use it?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
You can use it.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
In the beginning, it's.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Called the Genesis Journal hand press and embossed with golden
olive leaf motifs. So I guess it's hand pressed paper.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
That's why it feels so soft.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Oh, and then he got like, here's a cool thing.
They got like Hebrew words in here, so stars, stars,
cotch covern. God promises that Abraham's descendants will be as
numerous as the stars in the sky. Awesome, awesome.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
And then this one, this is really pretty. This is
an art piece that they made out of paper. It's
it's a paper cutting dog that is like the tree
of life, but it's also the shape of the state

(59:58):
of Israel, country of Israel. And the prayer. It doesn't
go into detail, but it's it's I think it says
it's the prayer of peace. Okay. Here here's the translation
of the prayer, Our Father in Heaven, Rock and Redeemer
of the people of Israel. Bless the state of Israel

(01:00:19):
with its promise of redemption. Shield it with your love
spread over it the shelter of your peace. Guide its
leaders and advisors with your light and your truth. Help
them with your good counsel. Strengthen the hands of those
who defend our holy land, deliver them, crown their efforts
with triumph. Bless the land with peace, and its inhabitants
with lasting joy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
So I'm in. That's beautiful here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Then save the best part for last.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
There's so much stuff in here. What the candies? The
candies here, we smagg him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
These are halva coated peanuts.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Peanuts.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Halva is like a sesame treat made of sesame.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Speaking of our gaming friends, Sammy can't have one. No,
he has a peanut allergy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, he couldn't even go near that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
And I'll be the first. Is that chocolate?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
This is milk chocolate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I want both with almonds and goosey. He's helping him, puffing.
We'll get you something in a minute, because none of this.
Oh my goodness, Oh my god, it smells so good,
does it? Mmm? It smells so good. I don't know
if I'm if this is seeing me give me one
here he's the dog is trying to get him. Oh man,

(01:01:55):
that whoa, there's no there's gotta be chocolate in that,
right mhm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
No chocolate sesame?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
M what butterfinger? Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Man? This is really good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Can you get that in America?

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I don't know, but you can get it in this box. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yo, I'm not even fronting. Have you had the chocolate yet?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I kind of don't even want to try it after that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I bet they're gonna be good together though, so h
m hmm. It's got a butterfinger vibe with something else though,
like those are good too, but soft wow mm hmm.

(01:02:59):
Sorry that you had to hear me smacking, but these
things are freaking amazing. Hava halva. Yeah all right, you
said the other ones are good too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yes, it's just milk chocolate with almonds and sea salt.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
What's it's not called something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
D Karina chocolate tears three generations.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Mm hmm. Good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
It doesn't compare to the other day it does it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
So I'm doing an experiment. I'm doing both together, so
these dancer think that's good. I'm doing both together. What

(01:04:00):
you think too much? Yeah, fighting the chocolates fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Though, highly recommend the Hall of A if you've never
tried it. Super good. It's not heavy either, it's light, Yeah,
super light.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I have to have some more of these just so
that it can be there the dominant taste in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
They have a recipe in here for halla bread.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Is a man of trucies, not like a horse when
he eats.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
They have Hebrew words in here too. The heavens is
shamayimm stars coach I vim see is yam dry land
y yaaha.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
But was smiling yah yum.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah yeah really neat. They also have in here practice
your own Hebrew lettering too, so you can practice writing
a Hebrew.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Wow. I want to say thank you guys for sending
this to us because that yeah, this is some beautiful stuff. Yeah,
I'm gonna put this has to go on our bookshelf
or something. Yeah, this painting here or not painting with
this art piece and this prayer and put that on
our bookshelf.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
You know what I do need? I need that water
right there, so I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Be yeah, go ahead and get a whisk water.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
You chose a swig of water.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Yeah. So if anybody's interested in the artsa Box, we
have a special site. It's artsa Box Dot Sale, backslash,
truth Sika, and if you go there, they'll give you
twenty percent off. And as you can see, it's a
lot of really cool stuff in there. It's not just
food but art and a journal and practice your own

(01:06:08):
letters and we.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Get the best brands that reach out to us. Yeah,
we get a lot of brands that reach out to us, guys,
just so you know, everybody wants to send us something
and we don't. We don't just take anything. It took me,
It took me several emails to even look at this
company that that was reaching out to just see what

(01:06:31):
they were and uh, pretty cool. It's so creative. I
like the arts because arts obviously in English. It just
reminds me of art because there was a lot of
art in here too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
And the artisan yeah, being like a small batch small.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Business, Uh eclectic too. Yeah, Wow, that's so good. Would
have been some of the comments you've had lately or
read lately? I know there was one recently that you
went back and forth or something on Facebook. Do you

(01:07:10):
want to talk about it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Let's see, what was that guy saying, Well, there was
one that seemed like a mean comment, but I don't
think it was. But he was like, wtf is healthy fear?

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
But then he was like, I don't mean to be rude,
like I'm really just asking.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah, wtf is healthy fear? Because we were like it
was a real and we were like, yeah, man, you know,
the fear of the Lord is a healthy, healthy fear.
You know, have a healthy fear of the Lord. And
it's so weird because if you're a Christian, there's terminology
that you're used to, yeah, because the Bible uses that
term a lot. The fear of the Lord is to

(01:07:48):
hate evil. Yeah, the fear of the Lord is the
beginning of wisdom. So the very beginning stages of Sophia
to meet Sophia is the fear of the Lord. I
feel like I'm in that stage. I thought I was
in that stage. I feel like I'm really in it now.
And so we talk about the fear of the Lord

(01:08:10):
a lot. We talked about it. Excuse me the peanut
in my throat. We talk about the fear of the
Lord alive. People ask about it. They don't like that
like this, They're like, I don't want to worship a
god that I have to be afraid of because their mind,

(01:08:30):
their fear goes to afraid. And almost every Christian I know,
you know, they talk about, well, it's a healthy fear,
you know, it's just it means to respect. And I
said it because I believed that's what it was. I
still believe that that's what it is. If you don't

(01:08:52):
know any better, there's no that's a great way to
interpret it. The fear of the Lord is the beginning
of wisdom, and the fear is just to respect him.
I'm not going to be afraid of him. You probably should. No,
I love him, he's a loving father, but you should

(01:09:14):
still be afraid of him if he's all powerful, all powerful,
like honor the power and be afraid of it, like
walk quietly, you know. And maybe some of it can

(01:09:34):
like stem from dysfunctional fathers. I think so, like I
was beat by my father. I'm not going to be
afraid of my good father. He's a good father. I'm
not going to be afraid of him. But I tried.
I use analogies for like one of the analogies I
used was for police officers. And then there's a lot
of people who even don't like police officers, but they

(01:09:57):
still respect them. They would never say it, they would
never say it. They say eight was an a cab
all cops or bastards or something. I don't uh, And
they hate cops, if the police, you know, all this
kind of stuff, rebel without a cause stuff, right, you know,
I don't like the policeman. Everybody I hate the police,

(01:10:21):
but you still respect them. No I don't, Yes, you do,
because you would never go up to them, and you
would never slap them. You would never go up to
them and do something stupid. Right, So there's a healthy fear.
I'm not afraid of them, Yes you are. There's a
healthy fear. There's a reason. And this was when people

(01:10:41):
would riot that they don't go and even riot towards
the people that offended them. They don't go to congress,
they don't go to the police station. They go to
small businesses and the neighbors, and they tear their own
neighborhoods up because because there's a healthy fear that we
can't go there, they're going to fight back, so let's

(01:11:02):
go pick on somebody else. I use that as an example,
and it's a good example. You respect them, right, but
you also respect them because they can and will take
your life from you in a heartbeat. No, they won't
go up there and like, go grab that CoP's gun
and watch what happens. Go up to the cop on

(01:11:24):
holster his gun and take it. Don't do that, because
you'll die. Don't do that. There's a healthy fear for
you not to do it. Right, it's the beginning of wisdom.
For you not to walk up to a cop and
do that. You'll live long. Your days will be long
and prosperous. If you don't do that, you're asking for it.

(01:11:47):
If you do. Fire. Fire is beautiful and be in
beautiful colors. Don't stick your hand in it. It'll burn you.
There should be a healthy fear when you're around fire.
Fire does not love you or hate you. It keeps

(01:12:08):
no records of wrongs. It doesn't judge you, but you
need to You need to respect it doesn't respect you,
but you need to respect it. Yeah. The Grand Canyon,
very beautiful, magnificent view. Walk quietly, walk safely, gently around

(01:12:32):
the Grand Canyon, because if you don't respect it, you
can fall. You can fall. The ocean. Watch out for
them riptide. Man, you better respect the riptide. It's the water.
How do you respect water? Respect the riptide because you'll
be you'll be done. So I think that's a good

(01:12:52):
analogy to start with the fear of the lord.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah. Yeah, And like me having a great dad, I
wasn't afraid he was going to kill me. You know
if I messed up, I knew he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I had a step dad that I thought he was
gonna kill me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yeah, my dad, No, he was a great dad. He
is a great dad. And I never had to worry
about him laying a hand on me, even when I
tried my best to like get under his skin.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
You should try to make him to hit you, go
live somewhere else, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, because I was a terrible teenager, but terrible to
He's a great father. He never laid a hand on meat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Father he is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
And I'm lucky to have a dad like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
And but I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
The fear thing is a little different for me, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Is it where my fear is now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Not really, I don't know, because I don't think I
could have done anything to make him hurt me, but
discipline me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
So the discipline hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Yeah, but I think it's different like people when they
say healthy fear, you shouldn't fear God. I think I
feel like they're talking about you shouldn't have to worry
about God, like bringing the hammer down on you and
killing you or anything like that. But because our God
is love, and love doesn't do that. But it will
discipline you, it will guide you. It will, you know,

(01:14:24):
soften your hard edges and make you into the clay
vessel you are meant to be like. And it's not
always comfortable. But I juste and fear and terror are
two different things for me. I'm not I don't feel
a terror of God. My fear is more like I
don't want to disappoint him. I don't want to blaspheme him.

(01:14:46):
I don't want to misrepresent him. I don't want to
call demonic or abominable anything that he's created, because everything
he's created is good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Yeah, my revelation obviously has changed, and I'm not going
to go into too great detail, but I will. I will.
You know, I can't even I don't if I can
go into any detail, because it's not going to make
sense that I am. I am scared of God. I'm

(01:15:21):
I'm in awe of God. God is the most not
not just God, but Jesus, because I wouldn't live like
God like that. Jesus too, like I see him the
same way as being a part of the same source.
I see God, and I see Jesus and Satan being
both the hand of right hand and left hand of God.

(01:15:49):
And they are both God, the entity or entities we
call Christ plural or Satan's plural and uh, and both
of them have their own beauty. They said Satan was
the most beautiful one. And so my I don't know.

(01:16:14):
I'm I have a different revelation of it now, could
never I could explain to you if I wanted to,
but I don't want to, you know. Yeah, And people know.
People know they because they go through it. They see
that the terror the Bible says, knowing the terror of

(01:16:37):
the Lord, we persuade men. I pray you never know
what the terror of the Lord is. Is all I'm
going to say. And we'll leave it at that. And
it's a terrible thing to fall, to fall into those hands.
To learn a lesson, it is, it is. It's a
loving lesson, but some lessons are harder than others. Yeah,

(01:16:58):
some heads are harder than us. There's some asses are
harder than others. What they say, hard head, make a
soft ass? That what they say, I think. So say
you know you have no idea with no?

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
I think I have heard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yeah, so learned the lesson quick so that you don't
have to see. Uh, but above ass whipping. I'm from
the South. We can't get no butt with you gonna
get a butt with me? You're getting as when you
get home. I'm sorry that cursed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Authentic. No, we don't have a delete button.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Get one, we're keeping all the other get a button.
We should get a beam, a buzzer.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
So you want to move on to another bad comment?

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
You found one?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
You know, I remember, I remember a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
So that's the fear of the Lord. I try to
explain it to people. There's no way I can.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
But uh, there's levels to it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
What's under what's understood, don't have to be explained, right, Lord,
you can hear me. Lord, you don't have to scare me. Lord,
I unders man, it's like, no, you don't don't listen.
You're a past I talk.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Next comment somebody on one of our YouTube shorts. It
was one about God being with you in the darkest
of times, like when you're really struggling and going through
a hard time, how he walks you through it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
I wrote a song about it, and that was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
The theme of the short, very short, like under a minute.
And his comment on it was something like, these two
are more religious, zealous who just want your money. And
I thought, where does this stuff come from? Like there
is nothing in this video about wanting money. It's encouraging

(01:18:42):
people who are going through a hard time that God's
with them through it. And so that was one that
bothered me a little bit, Like, I mean, I don't
like meditate upon it or wrestle with it, but it's like,
what the heck? Where did you see that theme in
here anywhere that we just want your money and don't care. Yeah,

(01:19:03):
because all it was was the clip about encouragement and
not being alone.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Yeah, there was that one. And I remember you felt
some type of way recently too, when somebody said I
gotta work tomorrow, I gotta go to bed, I gotta
work tomorrow, insinuating that you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I think he said, y'all don't work, I go to work,
I have to go to bed. I thought, yeah, it
made me, like made something in me like puff up. Yes,
I do, like I needed to defend myself or something. Yeah,
so I'm learning like triggers are not a bad thing.
When something gets triggered in you, it just means you

(01:19:45):
should investigate why and you know, try to overcome that thing,
which my thing, I guess is feeling the need to
defend myself and I need to learn to keep my
peace and be quiet. Sometimes and then another one just
it happens all the time, but always when other females

(01:20:07):
are trying to say they're your wife from another life,
for the future or another timeline, it's like, okay, those
are always fun. What did they say, they're your wife
from another timeline? Or they come back from the future
and hope that you'll remember them so that you can

(01:20:29):
be in love again. Or I don't know, crazy people talk.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Oh why would they say that, because.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
They're crazy because they don't know us very well.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
He don't know me very well, do he? Yeah, there's
a whole gamut of people that's you. All things are possible. No,
they're not around, and find out f around and find out.
Now I've talked about that, you know, we talked about

(01:21:08):
it extensively in the last two weeks on them. It
sucks because everybody always thinks you're talking about them. They do.
They think that they are the one like that you're
talking about. I never told you I was going to
make love to you, truth to go, No, but it

(01:21:31):
is so, you know, like, it's a great saying that
Aaron is on the podcast now because you can see that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
We are.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
A very sexy couple, good timing, good timing to choke,
very sexy, very volumptuous, very in love. We're in lust
and love in every life.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
We were slugs together, we were flowers together.

Speaker 6 (01:22:06):
We star we were stars together. We were gorgeous stars.
We shine bright within the night sky. We put on
a brilliant display before the rest of the gods.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
That's what we did, and that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
So yeah, you have no partaker of that begone spawn
of darkness. Yeah, we I've dealt with that too much.
I love fans, I love friends, but uh, just pluton platonic, Yeah, plutonic,

(01:22:43):
no sex, no sex, no marriage, no kiss. You know. Yeah,
maybe a hug, boundaries, maybe a hug, but you can't
smell my hair. You don't want to smell my hair.
Tell them, Aaron, your.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Hair smells like peppermints.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Sometimes sometimes I wash it. But now we get a
lot of weird comments. I'm a weird Oh so from
the planet weirdo, because Aaron's from the planet Weirdo. Yeah,
some would say Herbie. Herbie said that he's not the first.

(01:23:20):
I love you. I love you, you know. Can I
kiss your nose on camera?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
That would be weird?

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Can I kiss you on camera? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Mm hmm. Oh clip that somebody clipped that critique clip
that make a clip. Tell them we're madly in love
with each other and send it to the hater anytime. Yeah,
so like anytime a hater like says something, not a hater,
but a luster. Yeah, a luster says something, we just

(01:23:51):
send him that video of us kissing. Yeah, they're like
a really in love.

Speaker 6 (01:23:56):
Now they're not if they can get she's brainwashed him.
I'm gonna brain rushing them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
You're not, dear. I don't even like talking about it
because I know right now somebody's listening who wasn't even
thinking about the it's talking about me. We're not just
don't send me messages in box messages. My wife reads

(01:24:24):
them comments. She reads them. It's not appropriate, it's inappropriate.
It works for a lot of people. It ain't gonna
work here.

Speaker 6 (01:24:36):
I bind you in the mighty name of the Lord.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
May the Lord send you your real husband. Yeah, exactly,
And you'll find them and fall madly in love with them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Because it's bliss. It's a blessing. Everybody deserves it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
And I pray you get a dog. I'm finna hold
this dog up on camera to end this out on
a good note. And I'm watching him far as soon
as I grab on my grab them, he might let's see. Hey,
let me see my camera. Everybody is a camera. You

(01:25:18):
got you want to say something? Tell them? What's up?
Can I talk for you? I do practice the art
of channeling, don't I hold on. I'll tell them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Please send me a treat.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Yeah, he said, please send them a treat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Please send me the treat.

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
Everybody don't want you don't want it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
I will evil I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
When you said that, he's fighting me like a baby.
He's bone is back out. You know how the baby
slide up the tear? Uh huh, help me, help me?
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Don't let him fall.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
He's falling everywhere. He's shaken. He said, all right, the
podcast is over. Podcast is a fish face over. You
guys know this podcast was over ten minutes ago, right
after we talked about Artza. Make sure you go buy Artza.
Make sure you go buy a ticket to the retreat.

(01:26:33):
Because what we just did, accept the kiss, we're gonna
do together. We're gonna do that together. We're gonna kiss.
We're gonna we will kiss somebody. We'll kiss. The Bible
says kiss his son, kiss his son. We're gonna kiss Jesus. Yeah,
we'll do that together. And make sure you do that.

(01:26:53):
Go to see her dot school. You can sign up
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(01:27:13):
you have the ability to do so. But also I
want to say this too. I believe that all land
is holy. I believe that all land is sacred, and
so when we talk about the holy land, that's what
I believe. I believe that all land is holy, all
land is sacred.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Me too, and all people deserve love and peace and
support and enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Yeah, and whatever prayer that was for the President of
Prime Minister of Israel, I pray that and believe that
for every country because they're praying that for themselves. And
everybody deserves love, peace and the pursuit of happiness.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
So anyway, we don't We're not I am political vote
for Donald No, I'm not, but I can be. But
we definitely don't want to get caught up in the
middle of a political promo. I believe that everybody deserves
the right to a peaceful life.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Yeah, everybody deserves love and support, no matter what side
they're on. So anything you got, Nope, I just am
so happy to be here and be doing another podcast,
And thank you for being silly with us and hanging
in here this long. And if you got any questions,
leave us comments. We try to we try to work

(01:28:37):
through those on the next podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
God bless you, brother, Beatty Baby. You baited me up,
baited me up real good, clipped me up real well.
My Nie is still hurting.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
It was not caused by sin. It was an injury,
and it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Was not healed by Baty.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
But the Lord's gonna heal it if he is healing it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
That's right natural. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, we'll see y'all
on the next one. And yeah they got uh. There's
some videos here for you to watch. Check them out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
See if you can be the first one to get
a retreat ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
First one, first one just went live. We just not
we just not put the links up right, you know.
The flyer looked dope.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Job, great job, amen, praise amen, so on, piece piece everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
Bye,

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