January 27, 2025 • 63 mins
Cindy and Alison sit down with Janet Roller, a fellow paranormal investigator as well as good friend. We talk about some of the super cool and haunted places that she has investigated. We take a listen to some spooky experiences that she's had with both the living and the dead.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Spooky, a Paranormal Podcast, joined doctor Cindy Little
and Alison Robles as they journey through the realms of
the supernatural, mysterious, and downright eerie, from ghostly apparitions to poltergeists,
from haunted houses to strange phenomena. Prepare to have your
senses heightened and your beliefs challenged. It's time to grab
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your headphones, dim the lights, em brace yourself for a
journey into the unknown. If you dare Welcome to another
episode of Spooky, a Paranormal Podcast. We are your hosts,
Cindy Little.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And Alison Rupletz.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yes, welcome everybody. Today we have a very special guest,
Janet rollers Hey, Hello, Janet, Hello, okay, and Janet, Oh
my gosh, you've been everywhere in Texas. She's sitting here
with this extensive, single space typed list that's an entire
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page long of all the places that she has investigated
in Texas. And that's one of the things that I
noticed when I first got to know her, and we
would have these just casual conversations about, oh, have you
been this place or that place, or who's been here,
who's been there. Janna's like yep, I've been there. Yeah,
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so she has been ev reware.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I also like the fact that they're different colors, like
she has some in red and some in black, and
they have they.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Have special meanings.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh oh it's color coded.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, this will be interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Then.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, it looks like they're all in Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Nope, Nope, there's Illinois, there's Missouri, there's Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Wow. Wow, all over the place.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
There's a lot of Texas.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I'm just seeing all the Texas sistens. So yeah, well,
why don't we just go ahead and jump right into
it and hear about Janet's adventures here. So I kind
of wanted to start out by asking about the B
and B's because I know you really really love staying
at haunted B and B's, and I'm just kind of
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want in your opinion, and you know, I alliston too,
because I really don't have one on this. What do
you think makes B and B's kind of paranormal hotspots?
Any ideas?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh, that's a good question. I don't know, but they're very,
very interesting. A lot of times they're in older houses,
so that may have something to do with it. But yeah,
I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, okay, fair enough, fair enough. I just haven't been
to very many haunted b and b's or haunted hotels.
Can probably count on one hand how many I've stayed at.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, that's what I hunt down when I'm making a
plan for a trip. When I and mostly my trip
is up to Springfield, Illinois. So you know, there's about
three different ways I can go. I can go straight
up Oklahoma through Missouri, or I can go through Arkansas
and just all the way through Arkansas and Missouri, or
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Arkansas and Tennessee and up that way. You know, it's
there's a lot of different ways, and I do some
research and see what's available. I mean, the trip could
be done in one day. We never do that.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It'd be a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's an eighteen hour trip, and it's yeah, it's too long.
Or two days is what we normally do. But I
will sometimes even break it up into three and maybe
just travel three or four hours and stay in the
bed and breakfast that looks interesting, and then get up
and do another eight hours maybe and stay in another
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cool place and then finally make it to my home destination.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But that's the fun way to do it. It's just
kind of take a leisurely pace and look for ghosts
along the way.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, especially like Jefferson is not that far away,
but I'll stay in Jefferson a night and then go
on through Arkansas or you know, something like that. So yeah,
I plan it out.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh Jefferson, our little ghost gang needs to like do
a trip to Jefferson, really do. Yeah, have you ever
been to Jefferson, Allison.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I have never even left the state of Texas. When
it comes to ghost.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Oh, Jefferson, Jeffer, Texas, it is, Oh well, ma'am, maybe
a good one.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Maybe not north and maybe more south. I guess I should.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Ord it that way.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I go south.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Until my places are in Jefferson. The con Hotel and
the Steamboat Inn are both in Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So yeah, it's it's like one of the most haunted
towns in the state of Texas. It's over in East Texas.
It's really cute. I mean, they've got you know, it's
like your typical little Texas small town with a little
shops and good restaurants and just a buttload of ghosts.
And so yeah, all of their hotels and coffee shops
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and everything's haunted. Oh and they have bigfoot too. Yeah,
so yeah, we got cryptids and ghosts.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well that that will just knock out too, am I
liston ghost perfect?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
But yeah, and the Steamboat was one of the first
places I stayed when I went, and that was like,
oh gosh, thirteen fourteen years ago, I think, and I
took a friend or I didn't actually even know her.
I took a stranger with me.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Hey, I don't want to go alone.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
A wait a minute, let me get this right. Somebody
I worked with, his wife was interested in the paranormal.
So I planned this trip to Jefferson and we stayed
in the Excelsior, We stayed in Steamboat Inn, we stayed
in the Jefferson Hotel. And again you know, she was
a stranger. But and half the time we even had
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to sleep in the same bed because there was just
one bed places. But wow, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It was cozy, it was it was very cozy.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But we got stuff. And I mean that's where I
first the first anomaly. I guess that's where I saw
it in the Jefferson Hotel.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, well you can't just end it there. Tell us
about this experience in this anomaly that you got while
snuggling up with your stranger friend.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, she was out smoking something, so okay, sorry but anyway,
now she was out on a break and we actually stayed.
It was on the second floors, all the way down.
I think it was a room nineteen at the time.
I don't know what they are now. And it was
the most active because I always try to get the
most active room. And I was just standing out in
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the hallway actually talking to my husband on the phone,
and I just saw this white I mean, it was
a very formed white mist. It wasn't just a mist.
It was definitely a form, but it was just white,
like crossed from one side of the hall to the other.
It was down the hall, and I'm just in there,
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almost in a gay I'm like, I just I just
I just saw a spirit. Didn't think about like turning
my camera on or thing, just talking to my husband,
and I mean, yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You saw an apparition at the Jefferson Hotel, yep, oh wow.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And we had a lot of noises during the night,
a lot of knocking and stuff like that. We were
in a corner room, so we had to you know,
kind of pay attention to the trees outside and stuff.
But it was pretty cool. And the funny thing there
was the next day a little girl when we went
out to eat and we came back up the hallway
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and stuff, and there was a lady. There was a
chair there for some reason in the hallway, just a
random chair in the corner, and this lady was in
the chair and this little girl was just standing there.
And we come up towards the door and stuff and
start to unlock. She's, oh, you're staying in that room
because I had been on the ghost tour oh and
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knew about the room and stuff. We're like, yeah, do
you want to come in and see it?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did they come in?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
There was a tiny It was a tiny room. I
mean it had a bed and a chair in the bathroom.
I mean it was a very that's like I say,
one bit, but it was.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You got to see a ghost at the Jefferson Hotel.
I'm so jealous. I need to get back. Yeah, we
need there again. We all need to take a trip.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And then the steamboat in that one was really fun too.
They had a little.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Pig, like a real pig, pig, a little.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Pop belly pig ringing around in the hallways. I mean
we walked into that one. We're like, what in the world,
But that one was I mean that one really was
a B and B. And they would sit down on
porch with us at night and tell us stories. And
you know, like, I don't know, they had the death Alley.
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I guess that ran behind them. And death Alley, you know,
everybody had. So many of the stories are always the same.
There's always mobsters, there's always prostitutes, there's all you know.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
There's always an Indian burial ground sprinkled in there somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it seems like it's always
the same stories. But but it was. They were fun
hosts and uh, you know, we had a time with that.
I've stayed there twice now I went back. We didn't
really have any activity there. I don't think the second
time I went, my slippers kept. I couldn't never find them.
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They kept.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It was either a pig or a ghost.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well the pig by that time, the pig was a hog.
He was out in the backyard. He was only a
little cute pig.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
For a little time.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I mean, it was several years later that I
went back, but yeah, that was that was That was
an interesting one too. The Con Hotel. There see, some
of these places, I think it's a fine line between
them being calling themselves a hotel and being a bed
and breakfast con hotel it had like at that time,
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I think, only three rooms, So to me, that was what.
I had a hard time calling that a hotel. And
you know, a lot of them do give you breakfast
in the morning, you know, so like Magnolia Hotel and
Sageen it's only a little two bedroom place. There's a
little kitchenette. I don't I don't really call it a hotel.
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To me, that's a B and B. But there's been
several uh the historic Olie.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Where is that one? I've never even heard of?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Me?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
What flat flat Tonia?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Flat Tonia? Is that even in Texas?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
In Texas? And what I like about a lot of
these and this is another thing that's my favorite part
of going to the b and bs is the small
towns and the little shops because I like to go early.
You know a lot of times you can't check in
till three or four whatever, And I like to be
there like for a lunch and do all the little shops.
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I love the antique shops and all of them. So,
I mean, that's the first thing I try to find
is a cool antique shop. I don't I don't think
I've ever bought anything, but I do love roaming through them.
But yeah, that one was fun. And that one I've
been to twice. Once when when I was on a team,
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we stayed there and we had quite a bit of
activity there. We had a lot of like whistling and
just I don't know, a lot of different things. Uh,
So I tried to stay in the room that had
the most activity. And again that's there by myself. I
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don't think I really got a whole lot. But it
was just another I mean, to me, they're all fun,
whether I get anything or not, they're just it's just
a fun place to go. But that, yeah, that was
that was a good one. Of course, my absolute favorite
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was Camilles.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And it's no longer and it's no longer.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They were the best host he I mean, he understood
that I don't like a lot of food, so he
wouldn't fix me a lot of food in the morning.
But uh, and they would leave all the doors open
if nobody else was there, so I could go into
any room I wanted. Yeah, they were, They were fantastic
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with me. I would rent out the several rooms. I've
rented out the whole place once for my birthday and
I had a party there and only one friend wanted
to spend the night and she ended up in the
same room as me because she didn't want to be
by her with us yet. No, I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We'd be on that like stink on a bug. Oh
my gosh, But yeah, I would do that. Let's see,
I'm trying to think of all the Oh gosh, there's
so many good b and bs.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
MOHI mansion that was in sagem Oh really it then
turned into the Olivia Hotel Okay, and it's right on
the main street. It's it's this huge, huge mansion. When
it was mo SeeMe uh I was doing it was
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back before I was on a team or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I would do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
All the different There was meetups. That's when meetups was
a big deal, and you could find ghost hunts and
go on them, and I would go I mean almost
anything I could find.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I didn't know that. I mean I knew about the meetups,
but I didn't know about the ghost meetings.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's how, that's how, That's how even got on a
team is going to a meetup.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But they were doing the Palace Theater there, and I've
done the Palace Theater there about gosh, I know, three
or four times. But so they they were having an event.
Some San Antonio team was having an event, and I
did that and I stayed at the Motion Mansion and
that one was so cool. And that was the best
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breakfast I think I've ever had. I don't know what
she because you know, I'm picky.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I was gonna say, okay, let's pause a moment. Do
you recall what the breakfast was.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think it was like French toast, and I mean
it was just everything was the bacon was perfect. It
was just so good. And she was a beautiful, beautiful lady.
She rescued dogs. I mean there were dogs everywhere, three legs,
one eyed, I mean, there was just she would pick
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them up off the street, being when they're being thrown
out of cars. I mean, she just she was beautiful
and she looked wonderful.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That sounds delicious, and that's saying a lot, because yeah,
Jennet is a very discriminating palette.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
But they they left and then it was the Olivia Hotel.
And when I went down to breakfast for that, you know,
I was talking about being a paranormal investigator and stuff
like that and being there before, and they let me
go up in the attic. You know, they were talking
about that and I was like, can I go up there?
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And they're like, yeah, yeah, that's that'd be fine. So
I went up there with my recorder and you know,
they said the owner's daughter or granddaughter or somebody had
tried to sleep up there and couldn't, and there was
a bed up there. It was mostly storage, but yeah,
that was I love it when they just let me
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roam around. Yeah, and Bed and Breakfast hotels don't let
you do that, but Bed and Breakfast let you do that.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah. It was kind of like when we were we
were all at the Liberty in Cleabor and we got
a lot of really cool access to that. That's a
beautiful hotel.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
We need to go back.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We do add it to the list. Yes, any questions, Alison, No, no, No.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's just it's interesting to hear stories and it makes
me think like, oh, dear God, what is it like
to be like, have a kid that's a parent, is
a parentanormal investigator, and you all both have kids. And
then I'm like, oh, no, I want kids. What is
it going to be like and be like, oh, yeah,
my mom goes over and hunts ghosts.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, my daughter doesn't like it. It is mine.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
She has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean, it's and she's good at it too. She's
really good. She's a good investigator. She asks good questions
and she will sit there in the dark a while
and stuff. But you know, since that one incident where
somebody said her name in the middle of the night,
she's just kind of not doesn't want to do that
much anymore. That'd be unsettling.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I can understand that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
This is why I hang out with you guys, because
my husband's like that, and I'm like, you're boring. I
just want to go ghost hunting. You won't even let me.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Ah, well, yeah, maybe who knows, Maybe you'll get lucky
and you'll have a child that wants to do it.
But yeah, ours are like no, no, and any mine,
you know, because ours are both grown. Anytime anything goes
wrong with my car, or or my my house, which
has been pretty frequent lately. She's like, those ghosts just
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because you're she goes, You go into all kinds of
these haunted places and who knows what sticks to you
and comes home. I'm like, I don't think anything is
stuck to me. She's like, you don't know that. You
better pray me.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's I mean cool. But also i'd be like, hey,
just come hang out with me. Yeah, I mean clearly
some ghosts do that.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Some yeah, nice ones don't want the not so nice
ones hanging out with Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, I always looked. I mean, that's my thing is
always when I when I leave a place, I say goodbye,
you stay here. You know, it's nice talking to you
if you talked to me, because half the time I
don't know until I get home and listen to it
and stuff like that. But I want to find ones
that are in Texas that people can go to. Well,
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of course Mss Molly's and Fort Worth that was the
famous one. It's famous. The problem with it was the
contamination that you know, and my husband was there, he
was overseeing it. Billie Bob's it was just down the
street and there was so much noise all night long
of just people partying and you know, stuff like that.
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So there's a lot of contamination. One that really I
was I was hopeful that it was back in business.
Was a prosperity school. And that's in Joplin, Missouri.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh, I've been to Joplin.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It's it's it's usually on my way to Illinois if
I go up through Oklahoma, Joplin sort of where I
turned into Missouri, and it was it was. It was
a cool, cool place. It had been a school that
they turned into a B and B and I went there.
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I don't even know how many times. I mean that was.
That was a frequent stop for me. And it was
a good, like ten hour drive, so it was a
it was a good it's a waste, Yeah, it was
a it was a good day's drive on my way
to Illinois. But the last time I went, it was
actually it was going to be the last time I went.
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It was scary, but for different reasons.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
The host and I can't remember his name, but his
wife's name was Janet, and he also cooked a fairly
good breakfast and stuff and would visit it during breakfast
time and she would sit across the table during breakfast.
He did all the work. She had a lot of
health problems, so she really didn't run the place. He did.
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And the upstairs I think there was four rooms, and
again he would leave them all open for me if
nobody else was there, which seemed like there was never
anybody else there. I don't really remember ever seeing another
customer there. You know, I know they had them, but
you know, a lot of times I travel during the asio,
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so you know, I'll travel on like a Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday instead of traveling on the weekend. So that's part
of it. But you know, so he was really nice
and he had a very mellow voice, kind of creepy,
but he was so and I mean even when I
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had been in a car accident leaving there and I
had told him about it later, you should have called me.
I would come and gotten you.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Wow. Okay, okay, I'll.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Remember that next time instead of calling it expensive tow truck.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But so he was always he was just a sweet,
sweet guy. But then she passed away and it was
still on Facebook. The place was still on Facebook, so
you know, a lot of them you can't really get
on Facebook and make reservations, you have to actually call,
and I don't like calling places. So it's like, if
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I can't email you or message you on Facebook, I
really don't want to go. But so I did that.
I I think I called, but another lady answered the
phone and she said that she was helping him because
he was, you know, having a hard time with some
of it, and she was just trying to help him
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get through some stuff. So I made a reservation and
I went. And it's sort of out and there's just
like field around it. There's not really anything near it.
I don't know how it was ever a school actually.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
So it's not in proper.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's not in Joplin proper. You have to do all
these farm to market roads and stuff like that to
get to it. So I went and I knocked on
the door, because I think you always had to do that.
I'm pretty sure I never just opened it knocked, and
he came and opened it and he says, gave me
a really weird look. And I'm walking in with all
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my stuff and he's just walking beside me and still
giving me that weird look, and he said, why are
you here? Oh my god. He did not know I
had a reservation, but.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He owns it, but someone.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Else was taking care of that part and whoops, there
was a mis communication, like I don't have a room.
So he said, no, no, I don't have your room
made up because he wasn't expecting anybody. And he says,
but you know, he I would have put you on
a couch or something. I wouldn't said by so you know,
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I'm like, okay, because well he was going out with
some friends and stuff, and I went upstairs to my
room and just that whole night just it just creeped
me out. It just is like I didn't want to
go out into the hall because I was afraid I
would actually I'd run into his deceased wife or even
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worse him because it's just I mean, he was single then,
and it's just creepy. It's all I can say. And
I never went back. But their Facebook page looks like
they're active. I just went to it the other day
and I think it's a pair, a normal group that
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has taken over it, okay, And I message, I'm like,
are you open for business? Because I used to go
there all the time. I said no, it's a private residence. Now, like,
well take that off your Facebook then, because it looks
like you're still a bed and breakfast.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
But did you tell him that?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
No, man, Yeah, that's saying a lot because we've been
on a lot of investigations together and I have never
once seen you creeped out.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
That was the only time. But that was from a
human nut the spirit I've seen his deceased work. Because
she did not look very healthy to begin with. I mean,
it would have been scary.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
She wouldn't have been a very good looking ghost.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I feel like sometimes though, the living is a little
scarier than the dead. Oh, because it's just like you,
you never know what you're really walking into when it
comes to the living, and that kind of scares me
more than actually trying to go find the dead, because
when you're finding the dead, you know that you're walking
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in what you're walking into. You're like, oh, okay, I'm
walking into maybe a room full of dead people, but
what are they going to do about it? I'm living?
Like yeah, So it's when a living person with a
living person is a different story, and that's what's terrifying.
And that sounds like a terrifying situation. I would barricade
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myself in that really.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, because it wasn't like he couldn't get into my room.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh that's even crazy, Like, yeah, you're sitting duck.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, oh, I literally is sitting duck. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You bring a taser or pepper spray and you really.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Should And I don't why I shouldn't say all that.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, yeah, oh my.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Gosh, because I do. Like I love going by myself
because I love the idea of there's no contamination. If
I ask a question and I get an answer, I
know it wasn't somebody else breathing in there because it's
just me.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah. So, I mean that's my absolute favorite. I enjoy
getting to go to places on my own as well. However,
for our listeners, it's always good to go with a friend.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Don't do that, oh yeah, or at the very least,
have people that you know aware of where you are
and make sure that you can get in touch with
them and they can get in touch with.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You, and you bring like pepper spray or something.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, you bring tasers, you bring pepper spray, yeah, some
kind of something.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean creepy.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
And I mean in town, there was a Miguel house
and that's right across the Street, I think from from
Camilles and it's another big mansion. They did a lot
of wedding things there.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Where'st Camille's at again Columbus Columbus around Ohio Columbus. I
was exactly what, oh Columbus here and wakens.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yes, Camills and Miguel's was, and it's got the big
gate all the way around it and they have a
there was a bowling alley in the basement, like a
single bowling alley. You had to like go and pick
up the pins and the stunes yourself and stuff, and
a wine cellar dow. I mean, we did a lot
of investigating around there, my daughter and I when we went,
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but wow, because there was nobody there. I mean they
were there for to fix somebody was there when I
came because they gave me a bottle of wine for
my birthday. Nice and I stayed in the carriage house,
which wasn't actually connected to the building itself, because I
thought that sounded more interesting. But I still had access
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to the whole building, the whole in a mansion. And
then I was, you know, I was looking for the
stories and stuff about that, and my daughter and I
kind of did go from room to room to just
kind of see what was going on. I felt like
I was on camera there though.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
See that creep me out too, because yeah, and I
mean especially some of these places. I think of the
Haunted Hill House in Mineral Wells, and I mean, if
y'all have been there or haven't been there, I do
recommend it. But it's crazy expensive. But they have crazy activity.
Oh it's really active. But yeah, the owners you see
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in the kitchen this huge monitor of all the cameras
that are set up in the house and even the
bedrooms and everything. You can stay in the bedrooms, but
you are watched and they watch it. It's like their entertainment. Yeah,
the owners like sit there and watch you get scared
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in their their haunted house.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
So again that's another super scary of the living. That's
kind of creepy, very creepy. I don't think I wouldn't
want to go there in any way.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, now you've got to go to Haunted Hill House
at least once. It's it's a crazy active place and
just spooky as heck.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yes, but it's the kind of spooky where they try
to make it spooky.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Good point. Yeah, they have all these like creepy they
have it. It's already active, paranormally active. But then they
have all these like trigger objects, you know, like scary
dolls and toys and taxidermied not well, taxi dermie animals
and you know anything that you go in there it
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sets a mood.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, you lost me. Oh you'll.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You have a whole room of the things hanging from
the ceiling. Janet's always in that doll room. No, yeah, no,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know me dolls. The only doll I have is
one that Janette gave me. And even then it's like
if I am because my husband asked me to move
it sometimes and I'm like, h what makes you think
I want to move it? But I put it. I
put it where it is for a reason.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
No, why would you give her a non haunted doll.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
It's just a barbie.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Oh it's the barbie.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's the Yeah. And even then, like I have this
thing of dolls, it doesn't matter what it is. I'm
one of those people, those little like extindy clamp things.
That's how I have to touch dolls.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, you're even more scared of dolls than I am.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I wow. Or if my nieces are with me,
I'll be like, pick it up, move it. I don't
care where you move it, just move it, and like
I will make my nieces touch it.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Wow, and Jannon gave you a doll. Yeah, this is
the thing. This is kind of an aside, but we'll
get back to the topic of a minute. Janet is
a very crafty person and she like does all these
really cool miniatures, and now she's into crochet and she's
always trying. You know. She had a Facebook post that
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she was making these little cute cozy warm up bags
for stray kittens, the you know, little rice bags that
you could pop in the microwave and warm them up
for the kiddies. I thought that was really sweet. But anyway,
she made our whole group that we investigate together us
all Barbie replicas of ourselves. And that's what Allison's referring to,
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at least I think that's what it is. Yeah, so
you know, I've I've got a Cindy doll. Allison's got
an Alison doll. You know, we all we all have dolls. Yeah,
Alison ghost.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So we don't want that to be the Alison. She
just wanted the ghost.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It is a ghost doll. Oh I didn't know that,
like I because I forget what it was. I made
the comment somewhere of oh, I need a ghost from
my ghost bag, like the miniature ghost bag that she
had made me, and that's where that came from. But
what's worse is that I'm so creeped out from the
ghost all. I don't even put the ghost bag on
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the ghost doll. I'm like, no, this is my many
ghost bag, not yours. So I will bring the ghost
bag with me, but leave the ghost all.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We might have to do a little bit more exposure
therapy with you, like, yeah, we just got to get
into some places where there's someone to dolls. I can't
believe I'm saying that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Because everywhere, because everywhere has a doll room.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
No thank you, Like it's a.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Mineral Wells doll room.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
That one.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's a doozy. Yeah, it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
A Debbie over Cultivate when we were moving things had
a doll like it an actual It looks decapitated, like
there is nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
There's no doll head lamp. I think so.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It's just the head.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Now I know she's willing to sell it. Maybe maybe
I love that doll lamp.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I literally like she asked me to move it, and
I looked at her and I was like, there is
no way on this planet I am gonna touch that thing.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Debbie Allison's breaking out to shake.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I was like no, and her dad, her dad was
in and he was laughing, and he picked it up
and like kind of to tossed it to me, and
I was like, oh, nope, in a like moved. I
was like, no, thanks, Oh my gosh, I have to
go to the bathroom now, like scurried out of the
little room.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's like, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah. Yeah, if as we can do, we we we
need to do more ghost hunting. But yeah, just about
every place Janet's right, just about every place has at
least a few creepy dolls. So yeah, you keep investigating
with us. Yeah, you're you're gonna be. It's gonna be
some exposure therapy. I'll say that you are gonna be.
(35:36):
We won't be mean, No, we're not mean, but like
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Pull like a Zach Baggins and be like go in
that room by yourself and sit in there.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I would I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But yeah, we we we don't traumatize one another, at
least not intentionally.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
So Robbie mine.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, it sounds like a Robbie thing. He'd be like, oh, no, oh,
it's fine, I got you.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Or I wouldn't even tell you the doll was in there,
you know, just go in that room over there. Ha
ha ha. Sorry, Robbie, we're talking trash about you. But
we love you so much. He is, He's awesome. But
get my glasses here. All these stories are so awesome.
(36:24):
Oh yeah, So tell us about some of just some
of your tools, your techniques. You know, do you rely
more on the tech and stuff that you bring in
your investigative skills, or do you rely on more on
your intuition?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
No intuition?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
No, oh, that was quick.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I have no I have no fear factor, you know,
unless it's a creepy human.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we're all that's a sensible thing.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
My tool of choice is my audio recorder because that's
where I again, if I'm by myself, that I know
if I get answers, I get answers. I don't like
the spirit box a whole lot. I don't like the
necrophonic stuff too often because it's just it just sort
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of googles it up for me. I just I don't
hear the things other people seem to hear. But I
did have on my computer, and I wish it still worked.
It was like the voice box, like the spirit box,
and it did the radio stations and stuff, and you know,
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so it was all this. It wasn't a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, I'm like, wow, that's exactly what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
But this this was actually in a B and B
I think it was in car Carthage, Missouri. And I
was in a room I think the Mark Twain room,
because that's sounds like a fun room to be trying to,
you know, see if I can contact Mark Twain.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I guess could you imagine mar.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Related to him? I you know, we don't really believe.
That's what my grandmother always said, but you know, this
is one of those stories that we never really quite believed.
But anyway, I was in there and and I had
my machine going, so it's all this. I'm like, can
you say Janet? And it's all this say Janet.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I love that that happened, absolute favorite.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, And I mean it wasn't actually I don't know
what you call it exactly when it's it's still electronic
voice phenomenon, so I guess it's the same audio anomaly
or something. Yeah, but you know, I don't think I
got anything after that. But I'm always trying when I
do any of those, is to get them to say
some word first, a keyword, and I think there I
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was trying, you know, can you say Carthage? And then
but when you think about it and it's hitting radio stations,
it could hit Carthage easily, and if you're in Carthage.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
So I try not to use like the town and
stuff that I'm in, but just you know, a word
to know that I'm actually in contact before I actually
start asking questions. You know. So I was like, can
you say Janet?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
But the when they said say Janet, and it was
just so jovial.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I mean, it's just like they're being a smart ass.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, they're being a smart ass, but you know, it
was fun.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like I said, I love stuff like that, and it's
so rare.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It is very rare.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
A lot of times on the sphere Box and the Necrophonic,
you get lots of yes's or no.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, So I try not to even ask yes and
no quite, you know, the dowsing rhymes has to be
yes and no, but everything else I try to get
more specific because you know, you sort of hear things
that go, you know, you don't know if they're really
if it's really yes or no or just noise.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
So yeah, and that's kind of my beef with the
necrophonic app. I mean, I love the Necrophonic app, but
there again, it's loaded with I think intentionally spooky noises.
You know, you hear people moaning and screaming and yeah
and all of that, and so that kind of there again,
it kind of like.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Sets it up, especially when you're in a group and
doing any of them the spirit Box, any of them,
there's so many people saying, did you hear that? Did
you hear that?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Be quite, I can't hear anything because I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
You shut up. Yeah yeah, so I know, Yeah, you're
like kind of I call you the Queen of the EVP.
I love I love it. Yeah, and you even like
going through hours and hours of audio and video and
analyzing that, which is like that's more rare than Mark
Twain's Ghost. I mean, it's hard to me.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It's harder to go through the video because your eyes
to start crossing, And did I see something? I mean,
the video is always there's always some kind of things
going on that are not paranormal.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
But yeah, it's like the time that I saw one
of my fellow investigators trying on clothes at the end.
That's one of my favorite videos. It was at the
LASSL shops here in Waco, and I have to I
have to tell my story and pick on you a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
This is before they moved correct, yea, when they're actually
on little.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
When they were actually on Lasol.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And so I had my cameras set up and I
had one of my game cams and I'm I'm checking
my my video footage afterwards. And it was like set
up in one of these booths wear Across from the
camera was this rack of clothes and so here goes
Janet trolla lan over and looking She's like looking through
the rack of clothes. He's this cute coat, just starts
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trying on the coat and kind of you know, doing
this number here. I was just dying. I'm just like,
look at you doing a little bit of shopping.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Well, they had some really cool vintage clothes they did,
and I was portraying Hallie Earle for the cemetery walk
and I needed some vintage outfit.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
While you were in the right place.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
It didn't fit, and you know, I was worried I
was going to rip it, but I did not.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
No, you didn't. I've got video evidence of that, yes,
but yeah, but I love that. That was some of
my favorite footage. I was like, Oh, Janet's in there
shopping and trying on clothes. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I mean, I knew I was on camp. I mean,
I know I was on her camera, but I figured
I was on like main camera.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
There's cameras, stars, cameras everywhere.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Another really fun place is the Empress. Let's see if
I can find that. It is in Arkansas. Empress of
Little Rock it is. It was a really cool one.
It had like this grand staircase, like the two staircases
that up, and the room I stayed in there was
called the Petite Gene, which like the name Jean, Petite Gene,
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and it had to do with and my mom's name
is Jean, and our dog's name was Petite Jean pierred
All it was little John though it was Petite Jean,
and I think there was more to it. I can't
remember the rest for his name, but and the story
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was of like a female trying to be a male
to be in the army next to their love kind
of thing. So so the whole thing was so cool.
So that was the room I picked. But you could
go up another set of stairs up to the attic
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and they had I don't know what you call it,
the thing I'm on the top that you can like.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
See s a turret maybe yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Maybe maybe, but it was like a room and they
had played poker there, so they would have like a
kid or something in the window watching to see when
the sheriff was coming down the road. Yes, but you know,
to get there, you had to actually go through the
actual attic and you know, through their storage or Christmas
(44:42):
storage and stuff like that, and then you could get
to this little room. And I mean that was that
was that was pretty had.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
And this was in Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, we're in Arkansas.
Oh oh wow.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
And that was on my way up to Illinois. So
how cool? That one was really cool?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Is that one still there?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
It's still there? Yep. They have a Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
And it's called the Little it's called Empress, the Empress.
The Empress.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Can I also say if the last Paranormal University, the
basement is even more terrifying without all the Christmas stuff
down there.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
They moved the Christmas stuff they head stage.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, they had it on stage for the show. And
it's even more terrifying without all this stuff, because I
guess it's just because.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
It's more room.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
So you get so used to seeing it there and
you're like, oh, okay, if you think you see something,
it's just the Christmas stuff. And then I walk down
there and none of it was there, and I'm like, oh,
I don't think I like this anymore. I think I
want this stuff back down here.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Please.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's unusually creepy stuff. That's interesting because yeah, that things
usually packed to the brim with old Christmas trees and
gift you know, quote unquote gifts and and things and
clothes and stuff. Yeah, it was yakes.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
The clothes were still there.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh yeah, there's still some racks of clothes. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Did it make a difference in the activity, No, No,
I didn't I like that, both of you hard.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
No. Surprisingly, this that one seemed a lot quieter than
most most investigations at least to me, and for me
it seemed quiet okay, but it was just it was
just weird because you brought up Christmas and the Christmas
stuff some stashed somewhere and having to go through it,
(46:44):
and I was like, oh, yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
God, yeah, I haven't been down there when it's like
cleaned out of the Christmas stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
It still was.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
A lot of stuff, still lots of stuff I find
with Yeah. And by the way, we're talking about the
Palace Theater and Marlin, which we go to at least
a couple times a year for Paranormal University when we
invite the public in to investigate the theater. But I
find that on the paranormal universities, it really really depends
(47:16):
on the guests and the energy that they bring to
the investigating or to the activities that we're doing. And
I mean because sometimes you get some of those groups
of people and it's like, wow, this is really cool.
You know, they get it. It's like they get it.
But then there's some that just I mean, I'm you know, smile,
(47:41):
but I'm thinking, dear God, please leave, just just go
away now. I mean, sorry, sorry, I'm just being honest here.
I remember this was like a few years back. There's
this lady and I mean we're on our feet a lot,
and it's like uneven surfaces. It's an old theater. It's
really cool. But there's this lady with these like really
(48:01):
high heeled boots and by the end of the evening
she's like limping around and whining and complaining about it,
and I'm like, Lord, have mercy, woman, why did you
wear those shoes?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
So I've been when I was at the Doctor Pepper
Museum one time, when I think the first time I went,
which again was like thirteen fourteen years ago, somebody had
on high hills and it's just all those click click
click click click click.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like very annoying. Think, think
and then yeah. And then the people that decide to
get a little little tipsy before they come, I mean
maybe even a lot tipsy.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, it's always interesting. And being the youngest one out
of our team.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Oh by far, it's.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Interesting seeing like I I guess I've just of, for
lack of a better words, inherited y'all's mindset. When I
go it's it's funny when I go to stuff like
the Paranormal University, and I see, I'm like, what are
you all thinking? Why I'm in my twenties, why y'all
(49:20):
are older than whatever? And then I'm like, oh, is
that really me? Or is that just an inheritan mindset?
Ghost hunting, I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
All those cranky people. Why, No, you know what I
call it, I call it common sense. Yeah, I mean,
you know, there are so many, so many people that
you know, and I don't want to get too far
off on a rabbit trail, but there are so many
people that watch the ghost shows or hear about them,
and oh, it's like a haunted house. It's spooky, and
they you know, they go out drinking and then they
come in and then it's just a big party, you know,
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and they make lots of noise, they laugh, they joke,
they you know, and and it's kind of like and
for us it just turns into baby sitting and that
that kind of sucks, you know, And it would be
really nice if folks would just at least if if
you think this isn't a serious thing, you know, I
get it, if you want to have a good time,
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but you know, be courteous, be quiet, you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Know, don't don't be as Zach Megan's.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Don't be a Zach Megan's exactly, don't be a drama queen.
You know whatever it is, dress appropriately. That always helps.
And and so no, I don't think that's an age
thing personally. I think it's a common sense thing. Oh,
you're a sensible person.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Well in that case, yeah, silent judging is what it is.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Silent call it what you will. But yeah, there, And
I mean there have been some great guests at the
paranormal universities and other places, other tours and things, but
there have been some real doozies as well. And yeah,
we're all nodding. It's like we all know, we all know. Yeah,
so just be courteous. See what else I got here?
(51:07):
Oh yeah, this is a good one in your opinion?
What's the most haunted B and B You've ever stayed at?
Or you know what, I'm just going to open it
up to your whole list here, because there's more than
just B and b's on there.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
The most well, Camilles Tot was very, very haunted.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Okay, it really was.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
It just seemed like we always had some activity and
I always got some kind of answer. My team stayed there.
One night, they had some They had a couple haunted dolls,
of course, and for some reason they had been in
a well, they were in one room, and then they
were in a cabinet in the hallway, and then they
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were in the room that I was staying. I was
sleeping on the couch. Somebody else was sleeping in the
actual bedroom in there. But one had a little purse
with ear rings in it.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
The doll did, the.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
Doll did, and I did pick it up the little purse.
My leader was not happy with.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Alice is like, oh hell no, I didn't getting near that.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I just well, I was just saying it was nice.
They're pretty little ear rings, and I mean, you know,
I gave it back. But they were like in a
chair sleeping in the same room I was, so might
not have been. Well somebody I don't remember who's sleeping
in the bed, but I know that night our leader
(52:40):
of the bed that he was sleeping in the bed
shook nice. We had that. I can't remember what else
that night, but I mean, the dolls never Another team
that went in there said that the dolls growled and
all this stuff, and I didn't get any of that.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Growling dolls. Yeah, there you go, Alison Growling's shaking her head.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
You would never mess with dolls, you see.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I was still you don't you get out?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
You get a little clall that's like yeah, and you're like,
let me see it.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Okay, great, gosh. I mean, there's just so many the
haunted our theater in Auburn, Illinois. That one was really fun.
I've been to a.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Church, and churches are haunted. They're kind of kept on
the down.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
I think some of it because I said this to
a person the other day, and I'm not sure they
appreciated it because it was I said something about the
choir leader didn't want to leave, but and this one
was a choir leader. But I think in some of
those instances, those are more the residual type where it's
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not an actual haunting the place, it's just this imprint.
And you think about that at churches as somebody that
was really really involved in the choir la and you know,
you could go in there and you could yack yak
yak yack and try to get them to say something
to you, and it's just not going to happen because
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it's not that type of haunting so you know when
I say that, I don't feel like it's somebody that
that couldn't cross over or anything like that. I think
it's just more of a residual something that they did
daily and that's still there.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
So I would slightly pick a difference.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Oh really, see, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
See, so I'm one of those weird people that it's
even below like creepy dolls, but creepy like old churches
are one of like it's up there that kind of
creeps me out.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
Well, they make a lot of noises, but they do.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I think a lot of it is because I'm one
of those weird people. I grew up in two different
branches of Christianity. I grew up in Baptist and then
I also grew up in Catholicism. So the Catholicism part
of me is like, that is a house of God.
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Satan will do everything he can to make it not that.
And so when the church been leaves, who's to say
that he's not going to take it over? So you
see these things like you watch the movie like the nun.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Oh I haven't seen that. Another shout out to Robie.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, So to me, that's where like the Catholicism and
me comes into it's like it kind of creeps me
out because it's like, oh, kind of like God up
and left.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
In the building, he entered Satan.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yes, So it's like to me, it's like it's more
like that's where demonic forces come more into play. And
that's just me.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
You're going to a dark place.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I'm a dark, dark little mindset and that's where my
that's where my mindset goes.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
And I mean I've done lock ins at church at
several churches, and like the last one at my own
church was I was a chaperone, so I stayed up
all night, but I sat in the rocking chair and
you just hear so much. But not once was I
like scared, creeped out or anything, just like somebody coming
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in hello.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
I'm kind of the same way because I see churches
as places of high emotion. You know, you've got weddings there,
You've got funerals there, you've got worship services every week,
you know, and it's it's a very kind of like theaters.
And you know, I agree with you that I think
a lot of it is visual. You know, you could
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hear people laughing or maybe clapping or singing. You know,
I know, saying Old Loft's Church out in Cranville's Gap.
You know they hear the people singing. That's a famous
haunted church. But your point's not complete. I mean it's
a possibility because they are. There's a lot of spiritual
exploration and I mean it's it's a place of where
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we really focus on spiritual things. So you know, who knows.
I hope not.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
It would abandoned churches cremant.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
See, I think they're great.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
They that's another like I'm not. That's why I'm like,
I'm not as far as like the whole dull thing.
I'll be willing to go to an old haunted church.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Okay, good duly noted, but we'll find one. We'll find one.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
Oh no, maybe for a track that statement, maybe I
do now, But yeah, that's just one of those things
that he'd be.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Well, okay, well, so we's probably wrap Yeah, it's about
time to wrap things up. So I'm going to ask
one final question here for anybody that wants to go
to investigate a haunted place or whether it be be
and Airbnb not in AIRBNBA, well those two but you'll
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B and B whatever. What are some some tips and tricks.
What do you recommend that they do or bring or
you know if you have any anything like that.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Well, again, I bring a recorder. I think I lost
one of mine at one of those places. Yeah, I
tend to Yeah maybe you know, somebody took it, like
they took my slippers.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah, they're like, you're not going to record me?
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:48):
The sad thing is I always have recorder going on,
like all night long, and even sometimes a movie camera,
and it's really you know, watching yourself sleep and snore.
It's never pleasant.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
Oh I'm laughing because I can relate.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
I mean worse than that, because I tend to get
the munchies when I investigate. So I'm listening back to
recordings of me crunch crunch, crunch, crunch, and I get
the munchies when I'm listening back to it. So I mean,
it's just like double crunch, asking questions in between bites,
you know what kind of thing. But I mean the
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whole thing to me is just being respectful of any
of paranoral investigation. When I'm sitting When I was a
Camille and I'm sitting a chair, I mean I would
be like talking like, oh my mom had a chair
like this. Do you like it here? You know? Is
there anybody here just having account like like I'm just
having a conversation with somebody. Yeah, and I tend to
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get more activity when I'm being respectful.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
You know, And that just makes so much sense, and
I I can totally agree with that. I do not
like those paranormal investigators that go in show yourself, yeah,
you know, come out here and you know, punch me
in the face, you know, usually make a joke or yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
It is embarrassing and I listen back to it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Just put some of these, and I mean, yeah, you
travel light, I mean you really do. I mean we
we have our bags and cases and things. I'm gonna
call Georgiana out because her and I are kind of
that way. We bring big bags of things. But yeah,
you're you're set up and ready to go within a
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minute or two.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I have my recorder with me except right now because
I just downloaded some stuff on my computer at home.
But I always have an audio recorder usually in my purse,
and my little microphone so and idphone go anywhere. Yeah,
I don't carry the headphones with me all the time though, Okay,
but I do like wearing headphones, and I'm doing it
because it's just the idea is that you can hear
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it as you're actually talking, and you get those answers
immediately instead of listening to it later to listen back.
I've had some success with that, but I still don't
really catch it all until I get home and load
it up and listen carefully. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Well yeah, And I mean you have to have a
quiet place when you're listening, at least I do, you know.
And I have to have the headphones on when I'm listening, yeah,
because you won't catch No, you just won't catch them.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
I definitely hit my headphones on when i'm listening back.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah, And the EVPs they're usually really subtle and kind
of whispery. They're not like somebody talking. And when you
listen to enough audio you can start to tell it's like,
oh wait a minute, you know, and then least sider
is like, hold on, that was something, and then I'll
go back. And if you're not knowing what to listen for,
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and it just you kind of get your ear trained
for it. If you're not knowing what to listen for,
you can just totally dismiss it because they're they're a
little more subtle. It's it's not like somebody talking. I
mean sometimes it is everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
While I very rarely get just like a voice somewhere ye, Janet,
you know, but that was still on my computer and electronics,
so you know, it wasn't just this random voice somewhere
in the air.
Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, okay, anything else I don't think.
So that was awesome. Good stories, Oh yeah, lots lots
of fun places, that is for sure. All right, well,
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I think we'll just wrap it up there. Thank you
for listening, everybody, Thank you for being our guest. Janet,
thank you. That was lovely And with that, see you
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Welcome to Spooky, a Paranormal Podcast, joined doctor Cindy Little
and Alison Robles as they journey through the realms of
the supernatural, mysterious, and downright eerie, from ghostly apparitions to poltergeists,
from haunted houses to strange phenomena. Prepare to have your
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your headphones, dim the lights, em brace yourself for a
journey into the unknown. If you dare Welcome to another
episode of Spooky, a Paranormal Podcast. We are your hosts,
Cindy Little.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And Alison Rupletz.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yes, welcome everybody. Today we have a very special guest,
Janet rollers Hey, Hello, Janet, Hello, okay, and Janet, Oh
my gosh, you've been everywhere in Texas. She's sitting here
with this extensive, single space typed list that's an entire
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page long of all the places that she has investigated
in Texas. And that's one of the things that I
noticed when I first got to know her, and we
would have these just casual conversations about, oh, have you
been this place or that place, or who's been here,
who's been there. Janna's like yep, I've been there. Yeah,
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so she has been ev reware.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I also like the fact that they're different colors, like
she has some in red and some in black, and
they have they.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Have special meanings.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh oh it's color coded.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, this will be interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Then.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, it looks like they're all in Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Nope, Nope, there's Illinois, there's Missouri, there's Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Wow. Wow, all over the place.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
There's a lot of Texas.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I'm just seeing all the Texas sistens. So yeah, well,
why don't we just go ahead and jump right into
it and hear about Janet's adventures here. So I kind
of wanted to start out by asking about the B
and B's because I know you really really love staying
at haunted B and B's, and I'm just kind of
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want in your opinion, and you know, I alliston too,
because I really don't have one on this. What do
you think makes B and B's kind of paranormal hotspots?
Any ideas?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh, that's a good question. I don't know, but they're very,
very interesting. A lot of times they're in older houses,
so that may have something to do with it. But yeah,
I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, okay, fair enough, fair enough. I just haven't been
to very many haunted b and b's or haunted hotels.
Can probably count on one hand how many I've stayed at.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, that's what I hunt down when I'm making a
plan for a trip. When I and mostly my trip
is up to Springfield, Illinois. So you know, there's about
three different ways I can go. I can go straight
up Oklahoma through Missouri, or I can go through Arkansas
and just all the way through Arkansas and Missouri, or
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Arkansas and Tennessee and up that way. You know, it's
there's a lot of different ways, and I do some
research and see what's available. I mean, the trip could
be done in one day. We never do that.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It'd be a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's an eighteen hour trip, and it's yeah, it's too long.
Or two days is what we normally do. But I
will sometimes even break it up into three and maybe
just travel three or four hours and stay in the
bed and breakfast that looks interesting, and then get up
and do another eight hours maybe and stay in another
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cool place and then finally make it to my home destination.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But that's the fun way to do it. It's just
kind of take a leisurely pace and look for ghosts
along the way.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, especially like Jefferson is not that far away,
but I'll stay in Jefferson a night and then go
on through Arkansas or you know, something like that. So yeah,
I plan it out.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh Jefferson, our little ghost gang needs to like do
a trip to Jefferson, really do. Yeah, have you ever
been to Jefferson, Allison.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I have never even left the state of Texas. When
it comes to ghost.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Oh, Jefferson, Jeffer, Texas, it is, Oh well, ma'am, maybe
a good one.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Maybe not north and maybe more south. I guess I should.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Ord it that way.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I go south.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Until my places are in Jefferson. The con Hotel and
the Steamboat Inn are both in Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So yeah, it's it's like one of the most haunted
towns in the state of Texas. It's over in East Texas.
It's really cute. I mean, they've got you know, it's
like your typical little Texas small town with a little
shops and good restaurants and just a buttload of ghosts.
And so yeah, all of their hotels and coffee shops
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and everything's haunted. Oh and they have bigfoot too. Yeah,
so yeah, we got cryptids and ghosts.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well that that will just knock out too, am I
liston ghost perfect?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
But yeah, and the Steamboat was one of the first
places I stayed when I went, and that was like,
oh gosh, thirteen fourteen years ago, I think, and I
took a friend or I didn't actually even know her.
I took a stranger with me.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Hey, I don't want to go alone.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
A wait a minute, let me get this right. Somebody
I worked with, his wife was interested in the paranormal.
So I planned this trip to Jefferson and we stayed
in the Excelsior, We stayed in Steamboat Inn, we stayed
in the Jefferson Hotel. And again you know, she was
a stranger. But and half the time we even had
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to sleep in the same bed because there was just
one bed places. But wow, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It was cozy, it was it was very cozy.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But we got stuff. And I mean that's where I
first the first anomaly. I guess that's where I saw
it in the Jefferson Hotel.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, well you can't just end it there. Tell us
about this experience in this anomaly that you got while
snuggling up with your stranger friend.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, she was out smoking something, so okay, sorry but anyway,
now she was out on a break and we actually stayed.
It was on the second floors, all the way down.
I think it was a room nineteen at the time.
I don't know what they are now. And it was
the most active because I always try to get the
most active room. And I was just standing out in
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the hallway actually talking to my husband on the phone,
and I just saw this white I mean, it was
a very formed white mist. It wasn't just a mist.
It was definitely a form, but it was just white,
like crossed from one side of the hall to the other.
It was down the hall, and I'm just in there,
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almost in a gay I'm like, I just I just
I just saw a spirit. Didn't think about like turning
my camera on or thing, just talking to my husband,
and I mean, yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You saw an apparition at the Jefferson Hotel, yep, oh wow.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And we had a lot of noises during the night,
a lot of knocking and stuff like that. We were
in a corner room, so we had to you know,
kind of pay attention to the trees outside and stuff.
But it was pretty cool. And the funny thing there
was the next day a little girl when we went
out to eat and we came back up the hallway
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and stuff, and there was a lady. There was a
chair there for some reason in the hallway, just a
random chair in the corner, and this lady was in
the chair and this little girl was just standing there.
And we come up towards the door and stuff and
start to unlock. She's, oh, you're staying in that room
because I had been on the ghost tour oh and
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knew about the room and stuff. We're like, yeah, do
you want to come in and see it?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did they come in?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
There was a tiny It was a tiny room. I
mean it had a bed and a chair in the bathroom.
I mean it was a very that's like I say,
one bit, but it was.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You got to see a ghost at the Jefferson Hotel.
I'm so jealous. I need to get back. Yeah, we
need there again. We all need to take a trip.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And then the steamboat in that one was really fun too.
They had a little.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Pig, like a real pig, pig, a little.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Pop belly pig ringing around in the hallways. I mean
we walked into that one. We're like, what in the world,
But that one was I mean that one really was
a B and B. And they would sit down on
porch with us at night and tell us stories. And
you know, like, I don't know, they had the death Alley.
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I guess that ran behind them. And death Alley, you know,
everybody had. So many of the stories are always the same.
There's always mobsters, there's always prostitutes, there's all you know.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
There's always an Indian burial ground sprinkled in there somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it seems like it's always
the same stories. But but it was. They were fun
hosts and uh, you know, we had a time with that.
I've stayed there twice now I went back. We didn't
really have any activity there. I don't think the second
time I went, my slippers kept. I couldn't never find them.
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They kept.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It was either a pig or a ghost.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well the pig by that time, the pig was a hog.
He was out in the backyard. He was only a
little cute pig.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
For a little time.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I mean, it was several years later that I
went back, but yeah, that was that was That was
an interesting one too. The Con Hotel. There see, some
of these places, I think it's a fine line between
them being calling themselves a hotel and being a bed
and breakfast con hotel it had like at that time,
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I think, only three rooms, So to me, that was what.
I had a hard time calling that a hotel. And
you know, a lot of them do give you breakfast
in the morning, you know, so like Magnolia Hotel and
Sageen it's only a little two bedroom place. There's a
little kitchenette. I don't I don't really call it a hotel.
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To me, that's a B and B. But there's been
several uh the historic Olie.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Where is that one? I've never even heard of?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Me?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
What flat flat Tonia?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Flat Tonia? Is that even in Texas?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
In Texas? And what I like about a lot of
these and this is another thing that's my favorite part
of going to the b and bs is the small
towns and the little shops because I like to go early.
You know a lot of times you can't check in
till three or four whatever, And I like to be
there like for a lunch and do all the little shops.
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I love the antique shops and all of them. So,
I mean, that's the first thing I try to find
is a cool antique shop. I don't I don't think
I've ever bought anything, but I do love roaming through them.
But yeah, that one was fun. And that one I've
been to twice. Once when when I was on a team,
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we stayed there and we had quite a bit of
activity there. We had a lot of like whistling and
just I don't know, a lot of different things. Uh,
So I tried to stay in the room that had
the most activity. And again that's there by myself. I
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don't think I really got a whole lot. But it
was just another I mean, to me, they're all fun,
whether I get anything or not, they're just it's just
a fun place to go. But that, yeah, that was
that was a good one. Of course, my absolute favorite
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was Camilles.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And it's no longer and it's no longer.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They were the best host he I mean, he understood
that I don't like a lot of food, so he
wouldn't fix me a lot of food in the morning.
But uh, and they would leave all the doors open
if nobody else was there, so I could go into
any room I wanted. Yeah, they were, They were fantastic
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with me. I would rent out the several rooms. I've
rented out the whole place once for my birthday and
I had a party there and only one friend wanted
to spend the night and she ended up in the
same room as me because she didn't want to be
by her with us yet. No, I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We'd be on that like stink on a bug. Oh
my gosh, But yeah, I would do that. Let's see,
I'm trying to think of all the Oh gosh, there's
so many good b and bs.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
MOHI mansion that was in sagem Oh really it then
turned into the Olivia Hotel Okay, and it's right on
the main street. It's it's this huge, huge mansion. When
it was mo SeeMe uh I was doing it was
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back before I was on a team or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I would do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
All the different There was meetups. That's when meetups was
a big deal, and you could find ghost hunts and
go on them, and I would go I mean almost
anything I could find.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I didn't know that. I mean I knew about the meetups,
but I didn't know about the ghost meetings.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's how, that's how, That's how even got on a
team is going to a meetup.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But they were doing the Palace Theater there, and I've
done the Palace Theater there about gosh, I know, three
or four times. But so they they were having an event.
Some San Antonio team was having an event, and I
did that and I stayed at the Motion Mansion and
that one was so cool. And that was the best
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breakfast I think I've ever had. I don't know what
she because you know, I'm picky.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I was gonna say, okay, let's pause a moment. Do
you recall what the breakfast was.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think it was like French toast, and I mean
it was just everything was the bacon was perfect. It
was just so good. And she was a beautiful, beautiful lady.
She rescued dogs. I mean there were dogs everywhere, three legs,
one eyed, I mean, there was just she would pick
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them up off the street, being when they're being thrown
out of cars. I mean, she just she was beautiful
and she looked wonderful.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That sounds delicious, and that's saying a lot, because yeah,
Jennet is a very discriminating palette.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
But they they left and then it was the Olivia Hotel.
And when I went down to breakfast for that, you know,
I was talking about being a paranormal investigator and stuff
like that and being there before, and they let me
go up in the attic. You know, they were talking
about that and I was like, can I go up there?
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And they're like, yeah, yeah, that's that'd be fine. So
I went up there with my recorder and you know,
they said the owner's daughter or granddaughter or somebody had
tried to sleep up there and couldn't, and there was
a bed up there. It was mostly storage, but yeah,
that was I love it when they just let me
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roam around. Yeah, and Bed and Breakfast hotels don't let
you do that, but Bed and Breakfast let you do that.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah. It was kind of like when we were we
were all at the Liberty in Cleabor and we got
a lot of really cool access to that. That's a
beautiful hotel.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
We need to go back.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We do add it to the list. Yes, any questions, Alison, No, no, No.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's just it's interesting to hear stories and it makes
me think like, oh, dear God, what is it like
to be like, have a kid that's a parent, is
a parentanormal investigator, and you all both have kids. And
then I'm like, oh, no, I want kids. What is
it going to be like and be like, oh, yeah,
my mom goes over and hunts ghosts.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, my daughter doesn't like it. It is mine.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
She has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean, it's and she's good at it too. She's
really good. She's a good investigator. She asks good questions
and she will sit there in the dark a while
and stuff. But you know, since that one incident where
somebody said her name in the middle of the night,
she's just kind of not doesn't want to do that
much anymore. That'd be unsettling.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I can understand that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
This is why I hang out with you guys, because
my husband's like that, and I'm like, you're boring. I
just want to go ghost hunting. You won't even let me.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Ah, well, yeah, maybe who knows, Maybe you'll get lucky
and you'll have a child that wants to do it.
But yeah, ours are like no, no, and any mine,
you know, because ours are both grown. Anytime anything goes
wrong with my car, or or my my house, which
has been pretty frequent lately. She's like, those ghosts just
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because you're she goes, You go into all kinds of
these haunted places and who knows what sticks to you
and comes home. I'm like, I don't think anything is
stuck to me. She's like, you don't know that. You
better pray me.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's I mean cool. But also i'd be like, hey,
just come hang out with me. Yeah, I mean clearly
some ghosts do that.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Some yeah, nice ones don't want the not so nice
ones hanging out with Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, I always looked. I mean, that's my thing is
always when I when I leave a place, I say goodbye,
you stay here. You know, it's nice talking to you
if you talked to me, because half the time I
don't know until I get home and listen to it
and stuff like that. But I want to find ones
that are in Texas that people can go to. Well,
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of course Mss Molly's and Fort Worth that was the
famous one. It's famous. The problem with it was the
contamination that you know, and my husband was there, he
was overseeing it. Billie Bob's it was just down the
street and there was so much noise all night long
of just people partying and you know, stuff like that.
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So there's a lot of contamination. One that really I
was I was hopeful that it was back in business.
Was a prosperity school. And that's in Joplin, Missouri.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh, I've been to Joplin.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It's it's it's usually on my way to Illinois if
I go up through Oklahoma, Joplin sort of where I
turned into Missouri, and it was it was. It was
a cool, cool place. It had been a school that
they turned into a B and B and I went there.
(20:30):
I don't even know how many times. I mean that was.
That was a frequent stop for me. And it was
a good, like ten hour drive, so it was a
it was a good it's a waste, Yeah, it was
a it was a good day's drive on my way
to Illinois. But the last time I went, it was
actually it was going to be the last time I went.
(20:52):
It was scary, but for different reasons.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
The host and I can't remember his name, but his
wife's name was Janet, and he also cooked a fairly
good breakfast and stuff and would visit it during breakfast
time and she would sit across the table during breakfast.
He did all the work. She had a lot of
health problems, so she really didn't run the place. He did.
(21:18):
And the upstairs I think there was four rooms, and
again he would leave them all open for me if
nobody else was there, which seemed like there was never
anybody else there. I don't really remember ever seeing another
customer there. You know, I know they had them, but
you know, a lot of times I travel during the asio,
(21:41):
so you know, I'll travel on like a Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday instead of traveling on the weekend. So that's part
of it. But you know, so he was really nice
and he had a very mellow voice, kind of creepy,
but he was so and I mean even when I
(22:03):
had been in a car accident leaving there and I
had told him about it later, you should have called me.
I would come and gotten you.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Wow. Okay, okay, I'll.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Remember that next time instead of calling it expensive tow truck.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But so he was always he was just a sweet,
sweet guy. But then she passed away and it was
still on Facebook. The place was still on Facebook, so
you know, a lot of them you can't really get
on Facebook and make reservations, you have to actually call,
and I don't like calling places. So it's like, if
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I can't email you or message you on Facebook, I
really don't want to go. But so I did that.
I I think I called, but another lady answered the
phone and she said that she was helping him because
he was, you know, having a hard time with some
of it, and she was just trying to help him
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get through some stuff. So I made a reservation and
I went. And it's sort of out and there's just
like field around it. There's not really anything near it.
I don't know how it was ever a school actually.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
So it's not in proper.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's not in Joplin proper. You have to do all
these farm to market roads and stuff like that to
get to it. So I went and I knocked on
the door, because I think you always had to do that.
I'm pretty sure I never just opened it knocked, and
he came and opened it and he says, gave me
a really weird look. And I'm walking in with all
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my stuff and he's just walking beside me and still
giving me that weird look, and he said, why are
you here? Oh my god. He did not know I
had a reservation, but.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He owns it, but someone.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Else was taking care of that part and whoops, there
was a mis communication, like I don't have a room.
So he said, no, no, I don't have your room
made up because he wasn't expecting anybody. And he says,
but you know, he I would have put you on
a couch or something. I wouldn't said by so you know,
(24:17):
I'm like, okay, because well he was going out with
some friends and stuff, and I went upstairs to my
room and just that whole night just it just creeped
me out. It just is like I didn't want to
go out into the hall because I was afraid I
would actually I'd run into his deceased wife or even
(24:41):
worse him because it's just I mean, he was single then,
and it's just creepy. It's all I can say. And
I never went back. But their Facebook page looks like
they're active. I just went to it the other day
and I think it's a pair, a normal group that
(25:01):
has taken over it, okay, And I message, I'm like,
are you open for business? Because I used to go
there all the time. I said no, it's a private residence. Now, like,
well take that off your Facebook then, because it looks
like you're still a bed and breakfast.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
But did you tell him that?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
No, man, Yeah, that's saying a lot because we've been
on a lot of investigations together and I have never
once seen you creeped out.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
That was the only time. But that was from a
human nut the spirit I've seen his deceased work. Because
she did not look very healthy to begin with. I mean,
it would have been scary.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
She wouldn't have been a very good looking ghost.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I feel like sometimes though, the living is a little
scarier than the dead. Oh, because it's just like you,
you never know what you're really walking into when it
comes to the living, and that kind of scares me
more than actually trying to go find the dead, because
when you're finding the dead, you know that you're walking
(26:10):
in what you're walking into. You're like, oh, okay, I'm
walking into maybe a room full of dead people, but
what are they going to do about it? I'm living?
Like yeah, So it's when a living person with a
living person is a different story, and that's what's terrifying.
And that sounds like a terrifying situation. I would barricade
(26:32):
myself in that really.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, because it wasn't like he couldn't get into my room.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh that's even crazy, Like, yeah, you're sitting duck.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, oh, I literally is sitting duck. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You bring a taser or pepper spray and you really.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Should And I don't why I shouldn't say all that.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, yeah, oh my.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Gosh, because I do. Like I love going by myself
because I love the idea of there's no contamination. If
I ask a question and I get an answer, I
know it wasn't somebody else breathing in there because it's
just me.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah. So, I mean that's my absolute favorite. I enjoy
getting to go to places on my own as well. However,
for our listeners, it's always good to go with a friend.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Don't do that, oh yeah, or at the very least,
have people that you know aware of where you are
and make sure that you can get in touch with
them and they can get in touch with.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You, and you bring like pepper spray or something.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, you bring tasers, you bring pepper spray, yeah, some
kind of something.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean creepy.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
And I mean in town, there was a Miguel house
and that's right across the Street, I think from from
Camilles and it's another big mansion. They did a lot
of wedding things there.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Where'st Camille's at again Columbus Columbus around Ohio Columbus. I
was exactly what, oh Columbus here and wakens.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yes, Camills and Miguel's was, and it's got the big
gate all the way around it and they have a
there was a bowling alley in the basement, like a
single bowling alley. You had to like go and pick
up the pins and the stunes yourself and stuff, and
a wine cellar dow. I mean, we did a lot
of investigating around there, my daughter and I when we went,
(28:46):
but wow, because there was nobody there. I mean they
were there for to fix somebody was there when I
came because they gave me a bottle of wine for
my birthday. Nice and I stayed in the carriage house,
which wasn't actually connected to the building itself, because I
thought that sounded more interesting. But I still had access
(29:08):
to the whole building, the whole in a mansion. And
then I was, you know, I was looking for the
stories and stuff about that, and my daughter and I
kind of did go from room to room to just
kind of see what was going on. I felt like
I was on camera there though.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
See that creep me out too, because yeah, and I
mean especially some of these places. I think of the
Haunted Hill House in Mineral Wells, and I mean, if
y'all have been there or haven't been there, I do
recommend it. But it's crazy expensive. But they have crazy activity.
Oh it's really active. But yeah, the owners you see
(29:50):
in the kitchen this huge monitor of all the cameras
that are set up in the house and even the
bedrooms and everything. You can stay in the bedrooms, but
you are watched and they watch it. It's like their entertainment. Yeah,
the owners like sit there and watch you get scared
(30:10):
in their their haunted house.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
So again that's another super scary of the living. That's
kind of creepy, very creepy. I don't think I wouldn't
want to go there in any way.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, now you've got to go to Haunted Hill House
at least once. It's it's a crazy active place and
just spooky as heck.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yes, but it's the kind of spooky where they try
to make it spooky.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Good point. Yeah, they have all these like creepy they
have it. It's already active, paranormally active. But then they
have all these like trigger objects, you know, like scary
dolls and toys and taxidermied not well, taxi dermie animals
and you know anything that you go in there it
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sets a mood.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, you lost me. Oh you'll.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You have a whole room of the things hanging from
the ceiling. Janet's always in that doll room. No, yeah, no,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know me dolls. The only doll I have is
one that Janette gave me. And even then it's like
if I am because my husband asked me to move
it sometimes and I'm like, h what makes you think
I want to move it? But I put it. I
put it where it is for a reason.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
No, why would you give her a non haunted doll.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
It's just a barbie.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Oh it's the barbie.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's the Yeah. And even then, like I have this
thing of dolls, it doesn't matter what it is. I'm
one of those people, those little like extindy clamp things.
That's how I have to touch dolls.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, you're even more scared of dolls than I am.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I wow. Or if my nieces are with me,
I'll be like, pick it up, move it. I don't
care where you move it, just move it, and like
I will make my nieces touch it.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Wow, and Jannon gave you a doll. Yeah, this is
the thing. This is kind of an aside, but we'll
get back to the topic of a minute. Janet is
a very crafty person and she like does all these
really cool miniatures, and now she's into crochet and she's
always trying. You know. She had a Facebook post that
(32:43):
she was making these little cute cozy warm up bags
for stray kittens, the you know, little rice bags that
you could pop in the microwave and warm them up
for the kiddies. I thought that was really sweet. But anyway,
she made our whole group that we investigate together us
all Barbie replicas of ourselves. And that's what Allison's referring to,
(33:07):
at least I think that's what it is. Yeah, so
you know, I've I've got a Cindy doll. Allison's got
an Alison doll. You know, we all we all have dolls. Yeah,
Alison ghost.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So we don't want that to be the Alison. She
just wanted the ghost.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It is a ghost doll. Oh I didn't know that,
like I because I forget what it was. I made
the comment somewhere of oh, I need a ghost from
my ghost bag, like the miniature ghost bag that she
had made me, and that's where that came from. But
what's worse is that I'm so creeped out from the
ghost all. I don't even put the ghost bag on
(33:44):
the ghost doll. I'm like, no, this is my many
ghost bag, not yours. So I will bring the ghost
bag with me, but leave the ghost all.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We might have to do a little bit more exposure
therapy with you, like, yeah, we just got to get
into some places where there's someone to dolls. I can't
believe I'm saying that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Because everywhere, because everywhere has a doll room.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
No thank you, Like it's a.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Mineral Wells doll room.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
That one.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's a doozy. Yeah, it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
A Debbie over Cultivate when we were moving things had
a doll like it an actual It looks decapitated, like
there is nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
There's no doll head lamp. I think so.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It's just the head.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Now I know she's willing to sell it. Maybe maybe
I love that doll lamp.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I literally like she asked me to move it, and
I looked at her and I was like, there is
no way on this planet I am gonna touch that thing.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Debbie Allison's breaking out to shake.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I was like no, and her dad, her dad was
in and he was laughing, and he picked it up
and like kind of to tossed it to me, and
I was like, oh, nope, in a like moved. I
was like, no, thanks, Oh my gosh, I have to
go to the bathroom now, like scurried out of the
little room.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's like, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah. Yeah, if as we can do, we we we
need to do more ghost hunting. But yeah, just about
every place Janet's right, just about every place has at
least a few creepy dolls. So yeah, you keep investigating
with us. Yeah, you're you're gonna be. It's gonna be
some exposure therapy. I'll say that you are gonna be.
(35:36):
We won't be mean, No, we're not mean, but like
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Pull like a Zach Baggins and be like go in
that room by yourself and sit in there.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I would I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But yeah, we we we don't traumatize one another, at
least not intentionally.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
So Robbie mine.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, it sounds like a Robbie thing. He'd be like, oh, no, oh,
it's fine, I got you.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Or I wouldn't even tell you the doll was in there,
you know, just go in that room over there. Ha
ha ha. Sorry, Robbie, we're talking trash about you. But
we love you so much. He is, He's awesome. But
get my glasses here. All these stories are so awesome.
(36:24):
Oh yeah, So tell us about some of just some
of your tools, your techniques. You know, do you rely
more on the tech and stuff that you bring in
your investigative skills, or do you rely on more on
your intuition?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
No intuition?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
No, oh, that was quick.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I have no I have no fear factor, you know,
unless it's a creepy human.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we're all that's a sensible thing.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
My tool of choice is my audio recorder because that's
where I again, if I'm by myself, that I know
if I get answers, I get answers. I don't like
the spirit box a whole lot. I don't like the
necrophonic stuff too often because it's just it just sort
(37:21):
of googles it up for me. I just I don't
hear the things other people seem to hear. But I
did have on my computer, and I wish it still worked.
It was like the voice box, like the spirit box,
and it did the radio stations and stuff, and you know,
(37:42):
so it was all this. It wasn't a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, I'm like, wow, that's exactly what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
But this this was actually in a B and B
I think it was in car Carthage, Missouri. And I
was in a room I think the Mark Twain room,
because that's sounds like a fun room to be trying to,
you know, see if I can contact Mark Twain.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I guess could you imagine mar.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Related to him? I you know, we don't really believe.
That's what my grandmother always said, but you know, this
is one of those stories that we never really quite believed.
But anyway, I was in there and and I had
my machine going, so it's all this. I'm like, can
you say Janet? And it's all this say Janet.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I love that that happened, absolute favorite.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, And I mean it wasn't actually I don't know
what you call it exactly when it's it's still electronic
voice phenomenon, so I guess it's the same audio anomaly
or something. Yeah, but you know, I don't think I
got anything after that. But I'm always trying when I
do any of those, is to get them to say
some word first, a keyword, and I think there I
(39:10):
was trying, you know, can you say Carthage? And then
but when you think about it and it's hitting radio stations,
it could hit Carthage easily, and if you're in Carthage.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
So I try not to use like the town and
stuff that I'm in, but just you know, a word
to know that I'm actually in contact before I actually
start asking questions. You know. So I was like, can
you say Janet?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
But the when they said say Janet, and it was
just so jovial.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I mean, it's just like they're being a smart ass.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, they're being a smart ass, but you know, it
was fun.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like I said, I love stuff like that, and it's
so rare.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It is very rare.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
A lot of times on the sphere Box and the Necrophonic,
you get lots of yes's or no.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, So I try not to even ask yes and
no quite, you know, the dowsing rhymes has to be
yes and no, but everything else I try to get
more specific because you know, you sort of hear things
that go, you know, you don't know if they're really
if it's really yes or no or just noise.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
So yeah, and that's kind of my beef with the
necrophonic app. I mean, I love the Necrophonic app, but
there again, it's loaded with I think intentionally spooky noises.
You know, you hear people moaning and screaming and yeah
and all of that, and so that kind of there again,
it kind of like.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Sets it up, especially when you're in a group and
doing any of them the spirit Box, any of them,
there's so many people saying, did you hear that? Did
you hear that?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Be quite, I can't hear anything because I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
You shut up. Yeah yeah, so I know, Yeah, you're
like kind of I call you the Queen of the EVP.
I love I love it. Yeah, and you even like
going through hours and hours of audio and video and
analyzing that, which is like that's more rare than Mark
Twain's Ghost. I mean, it's hard to me.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It's harder to go through the video because your eyes
to start crossing, And did I see something? I mean,
the video is always there's always some kind of things
going on that are not paranormal.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
But yeah, it's like the time that I saw one
of my fellow investigators trying on clothes at the end.
That's one of my favorite videos. It was at the
LASSL shops here in Waco, and I have to I
have to tell my story and pick on you a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
This is before they moved correct, yea, when they're actually
on little.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
When they were actually on Lasol.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And so I had my cameras set up and I
had one of my game cams and I'm I'm checking
my my video footage afterwards. And it was like set
up in one of these booths wear Across from the
camera was this rack of clothes and so here goes
Janet trolla lan over and looking She's like looking through
the rack of clothes. He's this cute coat, just starts
(42:13):
trying on the coat and kind of you know, doing
this number here. I was just dying. I'm just like,
look at you doing a little bit of shopping.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Well, they had some really cool vintage clothes they did,
and I was portraying Hallie Earle for the cemetery walk
and I needed some vintage outfit.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
While you were in the right place.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
It didn't fit, and you know, I was worried I
was going to rip it, but I did not.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
No, you didn't. I've got video evidence of that, yes,
but yeah, but I love that. That was some of
my favorite footage. I was like, Oh, Janet's in there
shopping and trying on clothes. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I mean, I knew I was on camp. I mean,
I know I was on her camera, but I figured
I was on like main camera.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
There's cameras, stars, cameras everywhere.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Another really fun place is the Empress. Let's see if
I can find that. It is in Arkansas. Empress of
Little Rock it is. It was a really cool one.
It had like this grand staircase, like the two staircases
that up, and the room I stayed in there was
called the Petite Gene, which like the name Jean, Petite Gene,
(43:30):
and it had to do with and my mom's name
is Jean, and our dog's name was Petite Jean pierred
All it was little John though it was Petite Jean,
and I think there was more to it. I can't
remember the rest for his name, but and the story
(43:51):
was of like a female trying to be a male
to be in the army next to their love kind
of thing. So so the whole thing was so cool.
So that was the room I picked. But you could
go up another set of stairs up to the attic
(44:13):
and they had I don't know what you call it,
the thing I'm on the top that you can like.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
See s a turret maybe yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Maybe maybe, but it was like a room and they
had played poker there, so they would have like a
kid or something in the window watching to see when
the sheriff was coming down the road. Yes, but you know,
to get there, you had to actually go through the
actual attic and you know, through their storage or Christmas
(44:42):
storage and stuff like that, and then you could get
to this little room. And I mean that was that
was that was pretty had.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
And this was in Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, we're in Arkansas.
Oh oh wow.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
And that was on my way up to Illinois. So
how cool? That one was really cool?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Is that one still there?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
It's still there? Yep. They have a Facebook page.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
And it's called the Little it's called Empress, the Empress.
The Empress.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Can I also say if the last Paranormal University, the
basement is even more terrifying without all the Christmas stuff
down there.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
They moved the Christmas stuff they head stage.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, they had it on stage for the show. And
it's even more terrifying without all this stuff, because I
guess it's just because.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
It's more room.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
So you get so used to seeing it there and
you're like, oh, okay, if you think you see something,
it's just the Christmas stuff. And then I walk down
there and none of it was there, and I'm like, oh,
I don't think I like this anymore. I think I
want this stuff back down here.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Please.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's unusually creepy stuff. That's interesting because yeah, that things
usually packed to the brim with old Christmas trees and
gift you know, quote unquote gifts and and things and
clothes and stuff. Yeah, it was yakes.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
The clothes were still there.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh yeah, there's still some racks of clothes. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Did it make a difference in the activity, No, No,
I didn't I like that, both of you hard.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
No. Surprisingly, this that one seemed a lot quieter than
most most investigations at least to me, and for me
it seemed quiet okay, but it was just it was
just weird because you brought up Christmas and the Christmas
stuff some stashed somewhere and having to go through it,
(46:44):
and I was like, oh, yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
God, yeah, I haven't been down there when it's like
cleaned out of the Christmas stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
It still was.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
A lot of stuff, still lots of stuff I find
with Yeah. And by the way, we're talking about the
Palace Theater and Marlin, which we go to at least
a couple times a year for Paranormal University when we
invite the public in to investigate the theater. But I
find that on the paranormal universities, it really really depends
(47:16):
on the guests and the energy that they bring to
the investigating or to the activities that we're doing. And
I mean because sometimes you get some of those groups
of people and it's like, wow, this is really cool.
You know, they get it. It's like they get it.
But then there's some that just I mean, I'm you know, smile,
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but I'm thinking, dear God, please leave, just just go
away now. I mean, sorry, sorry, I'm just being honest here.
I remember this was like a few years back. There's
this lady and I mean we're on our feet a lot,
and it's like uneven surfaces. It's an old theater. It's
really cool. But there's this lady with these like really
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high heeled boots and by the end of the evening
she's like limping around and whining and complaining about it,
and I'm like, Lord, have mercy, woman, why did you
wear those shoes?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
So I've been when I was at the Doctor Pepper
Museum one time, when I think the first time I went,
which again was like thirteen fourteen years ago, somebody had
on high hills and it's just all those click click
click click click click.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like very annoying. Think, think
and then yeah. And then the people that decide to
get a little little tipsy before they come, I mean
maybe even a lot tipsy.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, it's always interesting. And being the youngest one out
of our team.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Oh by far, it's.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Interesting seeing like I I guess I've just of, for
lack of a better words, inherited y'all's mindset. When I
go it's it's funny when I go to stuff like
the Paranormal University, and I see, I'm like, what are
you all thinking? Why I'm in my twenties, why y'all
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are older than whatever? And then I'm like, oh, is
that really me? Or is that just an inheritan mindset?
Ghost hunting, I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
All those cranky people. Why, No, you know what I
call it, I call it common sense. Yeah, I mean,
you know, there are so many, so many people that
you know, and I don't want to get too far
off on a rabbit trail, but there are so many
people that watch the ghost shows or hear about them,
and oh, it's like a haunted house. It's spooky, and
they you know, they go out drinking and then they
come in and then it's just a big party, you know,
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and they make lots of noise, they laugh, they joke,
they you know, and and it's kind of like and
for us it just turns into baby sitting and that
that kind of sucks, you know, And it would be
really nice if folks would just at least if if
you think this isn't a serious thing, you know, I
get it, if you want to have a good time,
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but you know, be courteous, be quiet, you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Know, don't don't be as Zach Megan's.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Don't be a Zach Megan's exactly, don't be a drama queen.
You know whatever it is, dress appropriately. That always helps.
And and so no, I don't think that's an age
thing personally. I think it's a common sense thing. Oh,
you're a sensible person.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Well in that case, yeah, silent judging is what it is.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Silent call it what you will. But yeah, there, And
I mean there have been some great guests at the
paranormal universities and other places, other tours and things, but
there have been some real doozies as well. And yeah,
we're all nodding. It's like we all know, we all know. Yeah,
so just be courteous. See what else I got here?
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Oh yeah, this is a good one in your opinion?
What's the most haunted B and B You've ever stayed at?
Or you know what, I'm just going to open it
up to your whole list here, because there's more than
just B and b's on there.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
The most well, Camilles Tot was very, very haunted.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Okay, it really was.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
It just seemed like we always had some activity and
I always got some kind of answer. My team stayed there.
One night, they had some They had a couple haunted dolls,
of course, and for some reason they had been in
a well, they were in one room, and then they
were in a cabinet in the hallway, and then they
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were in the room that I was staying. I was
sleeping on the couch. Somebody else was sleeping in the
actual bedroom in there. But one had a little purse
with ear rings in it.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
The doll did, the.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
Doll did, and I did pick it up the little purse.
My leader was not happy with.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Alice is like, oh hell no, I didn't getting near that.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I just well, I was just saying it was nice.
They're pretty little ear rings, and I mean, you know,
I gave it back. But they were like in a
chair sleeping in the same room I was, so might
not have been. Well somebody I don't remember who's sleeping
in the bed, but I know that night our leader
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of the bed that he was sleeping in the bed
shook nice. We had that. I can't remember what else
that night, but I mean, the dolls never Another team
that went in there said that the dolls growled and
all this stuff, and I didn't get any of that.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Growling dolls. Yeah, there you go, Alison Growling's shaking her head.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
You would never mess with dolls, you see.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I was still you don't you get out?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
You get a little clall that's like yeah, and you're like,
let me see it.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Okay, great, gosh. I mean, there's just so many the
haunted our theater in Auburn, Illinois. That one was really fun.
I've been to a.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Church, and churches are haunted. They're kind of kept on
the down.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
I think some of it because I said this to
a person the other day, and I'm not sure they
appreciated it because it was I said something about the
choir leader didn't want to leave, but and this one
was a choir leader. But I think in some of
those instances, those are more the residual type where it's
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not an actual haunting the place, it's just this imprint.
And you think about that at churches as somebody that
was really really involved in the choir la and you know,
you could go in there and you could yack yak
yak yack and try to get them to say something
to you, and it's just not going to happen because
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it's not that type of haunting so you know when
I say that, I don't feel like it's somebody that
that couldn't cross over or anything like that. I think
it's just more of a residual something that they did
daily and that's still there.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
So I would slightly pick a difference.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Oh really, see, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
See, so I'm one of those weird people that it's
even below like creepy dolls, but creepy like old churches
are one of like it's up there that kind of
creeps me out.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
Well, they make a lot of noises, but they do.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I think a lot of it is because I'm one
of those weird people. I grew up in two different
branches of Christianity. I grew up in Baptist and then
I also grew up in Catholicism. So the Catholicism part
of me is like, that is a house of God.
(55:23):
Satan will do everything he can to make it not that.
And so when the church been leaves, who's to say
that he's not going to take it over? So you
see these things like you watch the movie like the nun.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Oh I haven't seen that. Another shout out to Robie.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, So to me, that's where like the Catholicism and
me comes into it's like it kind of creeps me
out because it's like, oh, kind of like God up
and left.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
In the building, he entered Satan.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yes, So it's like to me, it's like it's more
like that's where demonic forces come more into play. And
that's just me.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
You're going to a dark place.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I'm a dark, dark little mindset and that's where my
that's where my mindset goes.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
And I mean I've done lock ins at church at
several churches, and like the last one at my own
church was I was a chaperone, so I stayed up
all night, but I sat in the rocking chair and
you just hear so much. But not once was I
like scared, creeped out or anything, just like somebody coming
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in hello.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
I'm kind of the same way because I see churches
as places of high emotion. You know, you've got weddings there,
You've got funerals there, you've got worship services every week,
you know, and it's it's a very kind of like theaters.
And you know, I agree with you that I think
a lot of it is visual. You know, you could
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hear people laughing or maybe clapping or singing. You know,
I know, saying Old Loft's Church out in Cranville's Gap.
You know they hear the people singing. That's a famous
haunted church. But your point's not complete. I mean it's
a possibility because they are. There's a lot of spiritual
exploration and I mean it's it's a place of where
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we really focus on spiritual things. So you know, who knows.
I hope not.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
It would abandoned churches cremant.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
See, I think they're great.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
They that's another like I'm not. That's why I'm like,
I'm not as far as like the whole dull thing.
I'll be willing to go to an old haunted church.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Okay, good duly noted, but we'll find one. We'll find one.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
Oh no, maybe for a track that statement, maybe I
do now, But yeah, that's just one of those things
that he'd be.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Well, okay, well, so we's probably wrap Yeah, it's about
time to wrap things up. So I'm going to ask
one final question here for anybody that wants to go
to investigate a haunted place or whether it be be
and Airbnb not in AIRBNBA, well those two but you'll
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B and B whatever. What are some some tips and tricks.
What do you recommend that they do or bring or
you know if you have any anything like that.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Well, again, I bring a recorder. I think I lost
one of mine at one of those places. Yeah, I
tend to Yeah maybe you know, somebody took it, like
they took my slippers.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah, they're like, you're not going to record me?
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:48):
The sad thing is I always have recorder going on,
like all night long, and even sometimes a movie camera,
and it's really you know, watching yourself sleep and snore.
It's never pleasant.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
Oh I'm laughing because I can relate.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
I mean worse than that, because I tend to get
the munchies when I investigate. So I'm listening back to
recordings of me crunch crunch, crunch, crunch, and I get
the munchies when I'm listening back to it. So I mean,
it's just like double crunch, asking questions in between bites,
you know what kind of thing. But I mean the
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whole thing to me is just being respectful of any
of paranoral investigation. When I'm sitting When I was a
Camille and I'm sitting a chair, I mean I would
be like talking like, oh my mom had a chair
like this. Do you like it here? You know? Is
there anybody here just having account like like I'm just
having a conversation with somebody. Yeah, and I tend to
(59:50):
get more activity when I'm being respectful.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
You know, And that just makes so much sense, and
I I can totally agree with that. I do not
like those paranormal investigators that go in show yourself, yeah,
you know, come out here and you know, punch me
in the face, you know, usually make a joke or yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
It is embarrassing and I listen back to it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Just put some of these, and I mean, yeah, you
travel light, I mean you really do. I mean we
we have our bags and cases and things. I'm gonna
call Georgiana out because her and I are kind of
that way. We bring big bags of things. But yeah,
you're you're set up and ready to go within a
(01:00:41):
minute or two.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I have my recorder with me except right now because
I just downloaded some stuff on my computer at home.
But I always have an audio recorder usually in my purse,
and my little microphone so and idphone go anywhere. Yeah,
I don't carry the headphones with me all the time though, Okay,
but I do like wearing headphones, and I'm doing it
because it's just the idea is that you can hear
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it as you're actually talking, and you get those answers
immediately instead of listening to it later to listen back.
I've had some success with that, but I still don't
really catch it all until I get home and load
it up and listen carefully. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Well yeah, And I mean you have to have a
quiet place when you're listening, at least I do, you know.
And I have to have the headphones on when I'm listening, yeah,
because you won't catch No, you just won't catch them.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
I definitely hit my headphones on when i'm listening back.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah, And the EVPs they're usually really subtle and kind
of whispery. They're not like somebody talking. And when you
listen to enough audio you can start to tell it's like,
oh wait a minute, you know, and then least sider
is like, hold on, that was something, and then I'll
go back. And if you're not knowing what to listen for,
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and it just you kind of get your ear trained
for it. If you're not knowing what to listen for,
you can just totally dismiss it because they're they're a
little more subtle. It's it's not like somebody talking. I
mean sometimes it is everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
While I very rarely get just like a voice somewhere ye, Janet,
you know, but that was still on my computer and electronics,
so you know, it wasn't just this random voice somewhere
in the air.
Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, okay, anything else I don't think.
So that was awesome. Good stories, Oh yeah, lots lots
of fun places, that is for sure. All right, well,
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I think we'll just wrap it up there. Thank you
for listening, everybody, Thank you for being our guest. Janet,
thank you. That was lovely And with that, see you
next time. This has been Spooky a paranormal podcast. We
hope today's episode since shiver us down your spine and
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