Psychic Mediums

In this compelling episode of Spooky, we sit down with two extraordinary guests, Robby and Camille, with psychic abilities with very different backgrounds, but equally fascinating stories. They open up about what it's really like to live with psychic abilities in the modern world.We dive into how their gifts first appeared, how they navigate skepticism, and the role intuition plays in everyday life. Whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or just curious about the world beyond the physical, this episode offers a honest look into the lives of those who can tune in to something more. Get ready for chills, insights, and maybe even a message from the other side...

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Spooky, a paranormal podcast, joined doctor Cindy Little
and Alison Robles as they journey through the realms of
the supernatural, mysterious, and downright eerie, from ghostly apparitions to poltergeists,
from haunted houses to strange phenomena. Prepare to have your
senses heightened.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
And your beliefs challenged.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's time to grab your headphones, dim the lights, em
brace yourself for a journey into the unknown.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
If you dare.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome everybody, We're back with another podcast. And I'm super.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Excited today because this is.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Our psychic podcast, and we have two very special guests.
We've got Robbie Allen and Camille McCullough, who are two
local psychics.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
So welcome Camille and Robbie.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
He thanks for having us.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
I already love the awkwardness.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I know, Alison's just sitting over your line when you
talk to the debt.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
It's kind of hard to talk to the living sometimes, touche.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I felt that, yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
And plus Alison of course has mentioned a couple of
times on our show already that she is very psychically sensitive, and.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
She's thanks Robbie for telling me that one.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, you bet it grows on you.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
So she's all in the process of navigating that. So
I think this is going to be a well.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
All of our episodes are really good episodes, but I
think this is going to be a really interesting one.
I always get excited when we have guests, So if
you don't mind, I'm just going to hop right in.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You good, Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
So, a couple of things that I've learned learned about
psychics with y'all going on investigations, which, by the way,
I love having psychics come on paranormal investigations because and
here's just a couple of reasons why. Y'all are able
to detect fraud your great BS detectors, and.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know, it's kind of like, yeah, these people are
blowing smoke up your butt.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
There's really nothing going on, so that is super super valuable.
You're also able to determine what's going on because most
people that like myself, that do not have psychic abilities,
it's like.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay, something's going on.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm getting reports of weird, spooky, dooky stuff. But y'all
have a much more complex, in depth insight into what's
going on. It's kind of like, Okay, yeah, this is
a poultrugeist or this is just a residual haunt.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
There's really nothing here.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It's just playing over and over again if there's actually
a presence here and it could be this person or
that person.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I'm getting some which leads into the next.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Thing of you start getting verifiable information, which is really
exciting to me.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's like I'm getting a name.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I'm getting Mabel or Melba with our Mabel leg case
at Las right, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
The temporary agency.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Remember, yes, Yeah, and getting names and dates and places
that we can verify. So those are some things that
I think are just really awesome when it comes to investigating.
So what do y'all think about going on investigations and.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Just share a little bit about that.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Go ahead, Oh, put me on spot.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
I mean, I just think it's cool to have because
I know what I do, I know what I hear, think, smell, feel, whatever,
And it's nice to have people on the science end
who are like.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You know, especially in the beginning, when it's like you're.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
Not crazy, you're really hearing this, you're really feeling this,
you really.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Know what's going on.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
So that's what I liked about investigations when I started.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Now it's just fun and like a lot of times
you can feel it like I don't really want to go.
I don't feel anything there. They're just going to have fun.
But if you feel then you really want to go too,
so you can kind of exactly prove to yourself what
you're getting before you get there.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Which also, yeah, that brings me to distance reads.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I don't know if you do this, Camille, but I
know Robbie does this where you know, we'll be on
an investigation and if he's not on it, he will
start texting impressions and getting names and f.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I love it, And so I don't know, do you
do anything like that?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sometimes?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, sometimes if you're just kind of getting impressions and things.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
Yeah, sometimes things will come through and I'm like, I
have to tell this person now. It's kind of like
a it's a weird jo like I need to tell you, okay.
I'll reach out to that person and be like, hey,
here you go, and usually they're like, how the hell
do you know that?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I love it? No, that's why it's like yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
You know, yeah, you know, and like for me a
lot of times on an investigation, it depends on the
rest of the crowd that's there. Some people give you
more energy, you picked up more. Some people's energy so
off or funky, or they're there just to be seen,
or theatrics that you're not getting the whole picture.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (05:30):
Yeah, And some people you can feel are very stand offish,
especially if somebody.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Is like a hardline.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I don't believe no matter what happens, unless like God
himself comes in front of me and tell me, you
know you're not gonna you know it's gonna affect everything.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, I love it. What about you, Miss Allison? Hi,
how's your journey so far with your abilities?

Speaker 6 (05:51):
It's fun, but.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I don't think I've even told you. I've had a
spike connectivity in my house and it's not been fun.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
What's been going on your husband's.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I'm hearing a lot more stuff, which I don't know
if it's normal, like right before I go to sleep,
which is probably a good question for you guys, if
that's normal.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm literally when your brain slows down enough to pay
attention to it.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
So I'm just like I hear a lot of stuff,
and my husband ignores a lot of it. I'm like,
I'm sorry, I don't any type of questioning I have
to do I have to do alone because and that's yeah,
it's one of those things that I don't like I

(06:43):
have to I don't know, it's one of those things.
If I'm around certain people, I can do it, Like
I know, I'm just like I can zone out and
ask questions, but my husband, no, I know I can't.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's what I mean. Everybody, if you're with a group
and they're all kind of on the same page and
they're into it and want to know, I think things
come through easier. And then, like she said, you have
those stand offish ones that makes it harder to pinpoint
or what you can say without freaking certain people.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Yeah, sometimes it's like who you're comfortable with.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
Like, if you're with a group of people who not
only are like minded, but are like friends, and somebody
you feel comfortable being vulnerable with, it makes it a lot.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Easier, exactly, especially when you're starting out. Yeah, you can
be vulnerable with your husband.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
He doesn't mar so he doesn't like the para normal normal.
So that time, I haven't even told you this part.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
But after the.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Emily Morgan, my husband was so convinced that something attached
to him, to the point where I had to message
with Robbie because I was telling you. I was like, dude,
you are fine, nothing's attached. He's like, no, no, no,
don't you have a friend that does distance, And he
was talking about Robbie. So I had to message Robby

(08:00):
and be like, my husband's not listening. He wants to
know if something's attached itself. It's help to him.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
That.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, and I talk about the nightlight and we always
laugh about how he slept with the nightlight.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Does he still sleep with the nightlight?

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Thank god?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
No.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah, but it was literally for a week and I
had to text Robbie to help. Yeah. He said no,
he was perfectly fine. Everything was good.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Even if it wasn't, Lobby would just say it's perfectly fine.
And I was like, I hope your husband's not listening
to this.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
The dudes in his thirties and he's freaking out and
sleeping with the nightlight.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
I'm like, dude, your forties and I sleep with the nightlight.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
But I've seen some things.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
There is a difference between seeing them on the daily
and not and then freaking out over it. So he's
oblivious to most paranormal stuff.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
That's a fear of the unknown, I think for a
lot of people.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
It ties into the fear of death, mortality and everything.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
It's like that saying though, if you feel lonely, turn
off all the lads and put on a scary movie,
then you won't feel so alone anymore.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Your poor husband, he needs a good counselor yeah, you're
giving him PTSD is a witch.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oops, Oh my gosh. Okay, so moving on along, this
is already getting good.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
If you don't mind sharing when you first discovered your abilities.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And how that went.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Are we going to aid ourselves here?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Is that you don't have to give me specific ages
if you don't want, that's up to you.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
What was in the eighties, so I'm old.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
It was I I was very very young. I was
born with cancer, and when I was two, they discovered it.
And when I came out of my surgery, my mom
said that I was sitting in the room talking to
her grandmother who had passed three years before. Oh wow,
I was born, and I just started telling her things
about her grandmother that there's no way I would know.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
And she said then after that she would notice me
talking to nobody and telling her things about family members
who had passed, and she was like, what is happening.
So it's just kind of and then my mom fostered
it in me. She was like, you have a.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Kid, wow a long time.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's nice that you had a mom that was able
to recognize that and foster that instead of, you know,
bring in an exorcist.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
She was like, no, you have a gift. You can
talk to the dead.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
So that's amazing. And it's like me, I didn't tell
anyone in the family. I've told Joe. I think maybe
on a past one that I didn't tell anyone until
me a couple of years ago. I just finally told
my mom and she was so excited because her mom
did it, her mom's my grandma's brother did it. And
she started telling me everybody in the family. I'm like,
why has nobody ever spoken of this before?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Aren't you a good Baptist family?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yep, yep, that's probably why.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's why.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's why I remember just walking home because I'm old too.
We walked home from school back to the day. Yeah,
and there was this man on our street and all
of us kids called him Papa. And we walked home
from school and I told everybody that was with me,
I'm like, something's wrong with Papa. I don't fell right.
And when we got home, we found out he had
passed away. And so I kind of told my friends

(11:44):
before they ever told us what had happened.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, wow, so y'all were little, we're all young, and
so Robbie just said that it runs in your family.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Well, I think a lot of times it does, does
it in yours?

Speaker 6 (12:00):
That I don't know if it runs in mind. I
know I had an aunt by marriage who was sensitive,
but that wouldn't be like running in the family.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
So you think maybe the surgery at such a young
young age, maybe it just opened you up.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Just being so close to death that such a young
age may have been. And so, yeah, it doesn't hurt
that my birthday is the day before Halloween.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, Oh.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Wow, this Ishilloween. Nobody thinks happy birthday, They say this
is Halloween.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Wow. Yeah, I've heard that it runs in families a
lot of times.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yes, I've heard that. Yeah, if anybody in my family,
they won't say anything to me.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Hm, they said, nobody in my family has said anything.
I pick up the cues. I'm like, how did you
know that? They just won't admit. Oh, they don't clue
in you know that they knew something for it happened.
They just think, oh, well, I just do it all
the time.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So they just they aren't really connecting the dots. No,
it's like psycho.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Because my mom does it, my sister does it, I
do it. We all just know before things happen. A
lot of times.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's just the way we are.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, we're Baptists, I guess. And they just don't talk
about it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
But so yeah, And here's my question to everybody moving
on along. Can anyone develop psychic skills or is it
something that you're born with?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
What do you think.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Everybody's going to have a different take on it. I
feel like we can all foster it. I think the
more you tune into it and are more open to it. Yeah, sure,
the more I think everybody has get well, all of
us have spiritual gifts. Some just torn us that easier,
but I think we can all open that up and
feel I think so.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
I don't think it happens overnight. No, Like a lot
of people seem to think you just go, oh a
psychic and it happens.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Names mentioned.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
Yeah, it takes a long time to get to the
point where you're like in tune with it.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, and even when you get there, sometimes life just
gets so hectic, busy you just turn it off and
then you have to rework it again. But yeah, I
think everyone can tune into it.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
What do you think.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
I think, yes, it's yes to both. It's easier for
those to where it runs in the family, just because
you're kind of it's there. You have people in a
sense to guide you. But then people that like just
don't like you're trying to learn. Yeah, I think people

(14:35):
in the paranorm that naturally investigate it's easier for them
to gain it because you're exposing yourself to that kind
of thing consistently, so you just learn how to use.
I guess your body is a tool. I mean we
talk about equipment all the time, but we never talk
about how we use our bodies. Yeah, yeah, we like

(14:59):
we use our body a lot of I mean we
talk about on investigations it's like I don't feel anything here,
or it seems quiet.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
And see everybody says that they have all the tools
in their hands, and they'll say.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
That, yeah, and it's like, I don't they don't pay
attention that they're using their body's response system to dictate
if there's anything going on.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right. That's such a good point because y'all are absolutely right.
It's it's kind of like, yeah, we all go in
there and I don't care if you're like me, or
you're like robbie're like you or.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Camille, just all on the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
But yeah, we always go in there and go, I
feel this, I feel that, and it's like you can
feel the what I just.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Call it energy. That's that's where I'm at.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's like I don't know what kind of energy it is,
but yeah, there are definitely vibes to different places, and
that's where I think the psychics, those with you know,
the psychic abilities.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Are able to kind of like figure that out.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
And see those times are you turning tuning into it?
So see you just harness that and grow it because
you are picking up things when you go in different
places when you get those vibes.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, but you know, every place has a vibe. I mean,
that's how we say, you know, it's like reading the
room exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
That's part of it. That's part of the process, that's
where you start from. I'm like, do you ever go
to like Nature's Treasures in Austin. Have you ever been
in there?

Speaker 7 (16:24):
You've been there one time.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
The energy is so crazy in there that I have
to turn around, walk out, reground for a little while,
and then go back in, just because you feel that
place so strong.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
The one time I went in there, I was like, oh,
I need to take a breather, sat in the car,
turned ac on for a few minutes, did a little wusaw,
and went back in.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
It overwhelmed you because it's put admitting so much energy
off of all the different things in there.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Really is it like what a metaphysical shop?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
It's the biggest Texas largest, right huge?

Speaker 6 (16:52):
It doesn't it have a well?

Speaker 7 (16:53):
When I went, I think there was like a meditation
room inside.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
It even like they just though so we got to
go find it. But yeah, they had them outside inside
it was huge. That's what Nature's Treasureasures and their theme
is we Rock.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
I mean it's clever.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
So when messages come through, I mean you've already talked
about feeling things and reading the room, but do they
come through in any other way? I mean, do you
you know, hear things or see things, or you know,
get visions about things or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
Sometimes I'll kind of see like flashes of image. It's
almost kind of like in your mind's eye thing, and
then I'm like, oh, I know what that means for me,
and it's kind of like an interpretation.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay, so kind of a mental image.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah. Yeah, soby'll learn how they grasp it, how they
get it, because to me, a lot of times it
comes in dreams. But if it's during the day, it's
like a little TV clip. I see it in my
mind's eye, the little playing out.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's like a trailer.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
And then so if you hear things, it's always in
your mind's eye. You're hearing it's not audible outside of you.
You're hearing it in your mind's eye.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, okay, well that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I mean, do you ever have any any like audible
like actually.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Things that you see or hear. Sometimes sometimes it's not
on the constant.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
It just depends on the scenario or what's going on
or the investigation, what you're gonna get or see.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I think I've had it happen to me once, and
that was at my house when I.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
First bought it.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
But that was like the first audible thing I could hear.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh oh, was it?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
It was?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
I mentioned the cowboy. I've mentioned him to you.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Before, yes, oh yeah. He was always in the Sergio's
restaurant too, Bally.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
So there's some cowboy that's been in my house. The
first time I moved into the house, I was leaving.
This is when my husband was thinking. He just switched
to day shift, so he was already gone. I hear
someone say hey, and so I me, not thinking, I

(19:09):
thought it was my husband. I was like hey, and
I turn around and I could see something in my
head and then I looked and I was like, okay, whatever.
I was like, I gotta go to work, have fun,
and then straight walked out.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
And then it was probably six months later I actually
physically saw him in my living room.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Oh wow.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
And my husband was sitting on the cap. I think
I told you this. I was sitting he was sitting there.
Walked up and it's like I thought he was standing there.
And I looked up and it was not him. It
was this cowboy, dude.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
It was the cowboy.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
And then he could tell I was looking at him
and I was just zoned out, but I was having
a conversation in my head.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, wild see, which brings me to another question about
it investigations. Another reason is this just a selfish one? Why
I love having people with psychic abilities on investigations is y'all.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Are ghost magnets.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I find that when we have a psychic on an investigation,
we get a lot more activity, for sure. And not
just the psychics get more activity, ever, everybody is more activity. So,
I mean, and that's something that we're doing in our
academic research. I mean, that's something that's pretty obvious and

(20:37):
we're just trying to figure out what's going on. Is
this the energy in the environment interacting with your personal
energy or you know, are you drawing in entities? You know,
I have no idea, But do you find that that's

(20:58):
the case. You're both sitting here nodding when you are
on investigations with other people, that more stuff happens.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
I think they're attracted to our life.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
We're like, yeah, like we're a light in their moths.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
They're like, oh, yeah, they're coming to us. And so
when there's more black minded people, like say there's all
three or four of us in one, you're going to
get way more happenings, more energy versus just one of
us in there. So I feel like all of us
are putting off our light moths to a flame.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, oh I like that.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I can see that definitely because yeah, and then then
the bonus part of that is is like, yeah, more
activity is happening, and y'all have more insight into.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
What that activity is. So it's all just great stuff.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
I also think that it's just investigating because in general,
because when we go on investigations, we put off a
different energy, right whereas like you, like you going into teaching,
you're putting off a different energy than you would going
into investigation.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
So it's true.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I think it's just the combination of putting someone that
naturally vibrates at that frequency every day, and then you
add you that you know might.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Be matching it.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, you're switching between different things, so it's combining like
you and Robbie compared to just Robbie by himself. Okay,
so your frequency is matching with Robbie's because you're going
in there with the same kind of mindset.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
That's a good point because you know, like in theaters
or movies where there's a lot of emotions or this
or that, the energy levels that's what gives more strength.
So you put all of us at that higher level,
that's why they come in. So that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, And Camille just was talking about something like that
a few minutes ago, where it's kind of like if
I'm with people that I'm comfortable around and I am relaxed.
I mean, I think that has a lot to do
with it as well, where it's kind of like, hey,
we all know each other, we all trust each other,
we're open to having having things happen, and things happen.

(23:14):
So yeah, I'm still learning about the whole frequency vibe thing.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know, I don't know much about that, So you
do it.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
I think it's just everyone does it and they don't
realize they're doing it. Like you say that someone's vibes
are weird and you can you're catching a vibe, or
when someone has a bad attitude, you're like, I don't
like their attitude. It's making me upset. It's you're catching
that energy and it's very weird, which she had mentioned like, oh,

(23:43):
if someone stand offish, it's it puts it almost like
a damper to your reading. Yeah, so it's you're doing
it a lot more than what you would think you're doing.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
To put it like this, I've not been around a
narcissist per se, but someone who is a narcissist and
you spend the day with them, think how it affects
your energy at the end of the day, after spending
a whole day, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
It drains you.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
So whenever you're around people that are all like, who,
let's go do this, the energy is just amped up.
So stay around the negative Nelly, you're gonna be down.
Be around people that are interested in what you're doing
in ipor and excited. You're going to catch onto this too.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
So yeah, they're getting says shift and energy. That a
whole energy shift again. So interesting.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Oh, and I went to Granddaddy Willow. I don't know
if you've been.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
To Granddaddy will I have not.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
We like it.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, you'll have to come with us. It's a new
little metaphysical shop here in Waco.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's over on Richland and.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
He'll do a little readings and stuff. He hasn't been
there when I've been yet, but I saw his table
where he'll do him.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
I've met him, I've just never been to the shop.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, he's really sweet.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
But yeah, we were looking at all the rocks and
I was getting a lesson on fancy biby rocks.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I had to leave. That was a two year old
that wanted to show me all the rocks.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, we were like Robbie and I met up there
the other day. We were gonna, you know, sit and
talk to the owner and have a nice cup of
herbal tea.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
And read the Tiro cards. But a family brought their
two year old in. That was just all over the place.
So I was my energy was like, I can't take it.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Nothing, I gotta leave. Oh my gosh. No, the two
year old was just being a two year old. It
was the mother.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I wanted to smack up side of the head. I'm
just like, please parent your child.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
So we left. We went and got pizza instead.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
I said, we'll go back next week.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, but yeah, I do know that. I don't know,
you know. Georgina is another one that we need to
have on the show. But she's the.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
One that's like all of the research.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
The rock well, yeah, she's the historical research. Love her monster,
but the rocks, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
The cystals.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
The crystals, she knows what they are, those fancy rocks.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, and so and then you know, and she was
talking about all the different energies and things and protections.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
The black termaline is always a really good one to
get rid of negative It absorbs.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
So my husband had a black tormaline that he kept
in his pocket because I told him to do it,
and he had it in there maybe a year, and
one day it just exploded.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
In his pocket what it absorbed so much.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
And at the time he was working somewhere where there
was a lot of negativity and.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
It just and then for like us, I don't know
about you, but I would assume we're always drawn to
the is it selenite, that's the clear one and that
helps you with your intuitive abilities, helps.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Your focus on selenite and amethyst for me.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Saying, it's just what we're drawn to because they help
you since things are see things more clearly.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Okay, so do you bring these on?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Investigations usually have them in my pocket. Yes, and then
I had one made with tenser technology around it. The
crystals are crushed and it's a necklace that keeps you grounded.
And like when you take it off at the end
of the day, you fuck blue head because it's cap
you grounded. When you go on those investigations and stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
See those little things I just never talked about. They
find out a little by little more and more set
going back to the energy shifts. Remember when we do investigations.
That's why always brought a stun gun. Look how many
vaults of energy were popping out there, So that really
brings them to us.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, I was telling me all about Yeah, he brings
his taser and like it works it off.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah. So do you do you know anything about the
fancy rocks?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Do you use the things?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I do?

Speaker 5 (27:43):
But I usually don't use them a whole lot. Certain
ones will actually give me headaches, And there are certain
ones that he was just like for me, a lot
of those clear rocks actually give me headaches. And I
don't know what it is, but a lot of the

(28:04):
time I have to either pop a squat or completely
just lay down, and it's I don't know if it's
just the physical part of grounding of like feeling the
area for me to be able to like ground myself.
But most of the time the rocks actually give me
headaches and they they make me feel funny.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
It's probably the same thing we were talking about when
we went in Nature's Treasures. We have to go out
red ground, go back in. You're absorbing all that energy
you've got to what would you say, that's you grounding
then you can be around them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, So I think it's just it varies, but it varies.
It varies, like I guess what each person does is
slightly different.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, and this is young. I think it's weird. But
I took some of my crystals to my friends memorial
service and I had them there and so I'm going
to crush them and I'm going to make them into
a pennant with some of her ashes to give to
her kids.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
How nice, because that was the energy from that and
her and ashes. So that'll be nice.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
That'll be so nice. What a nice way to remember.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, So that was some of the stuff I was
getting all together this morning. I'm like, go, oh, I
got to get there.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Less and you made it just fine.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, But that kind of leads.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Me into my next question, because folks that I've talked
to that have been able to harness their abilities, which
takes many, many years, and all the way to people that,
oh my gosh, how do I turn this on? How
do I turn this off? How do you all, and
you've already kind of touched on this a minute ago,

(29:50):
how do you all prepare yourselves mentally and emotionally to
go into an investigation or into a reading if somebody
wants you to to do or reading. What are some
things that really, I guess just ground you or help
you prepare.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
I like to lay in bed with all the lights off,
in the dark. I play like some really soft like
I call it hippie dippy music, and I just kind
of relax and try to clear my mind. And like
I try to get into the mindset, and I try
to do I guess maybe something distance to kind of
connect with the reading or the investigation before I even

(30:28):
get there. Like I try to be ready to go.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Okay, that makes sense, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Me, I'm a squirrel in traffic. It just comes. I
don't I mean, I just don't prepare. I just go
the balls of the wall, whatever comes.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
I used to be like that, but I had to
be cause I get like, I can feel how people.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Died and like and it hurts.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Yeah, So I had to get to the point where
I think for me physically, I had to do that
little wu saw to get ready so that I don't.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
Hurt my body, especially with the fiber and then feeling
all that on top of it.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
It's not right.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Gosh, yeah, what about you if you got a way
to prepare for things?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yet I'm kind of a mix.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
I most of the time don't prepare, but I naturally Again,
I don't know if this is normal, but I normally
walk around my house with no lights on. And I've
told you this.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Uh huh.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
I will have my entire house just dark. I don't
use any lights.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I just walk around and if I have to use
a light, I use my phone flashlight fun. And it's
just it's one of those things. And I've picked up
on a lot of the time that if I'm going
somewhere and I mentally know, like I know, fake Casey
will come to me before a pair of normal you,
and I'll just be sitting there talking to myself, like

(31:50):
I'll verbally be saying stuff out loud, like I'll be like,
I don't know, I gotta go to this thing, okay,
fake casey, Like I'll just be talking to myself.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So it's kind of.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Like a mix, like I kind of prepare for it,
but I don't at the same time.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yea, Like the first time I went to Paranormal the
drive over, I keep getting arrows, an arrow pointing up,
pointing out, pointing up. Well, that was where I got
the most activity was up in that balcony, so just
there's no preparation, it just pops it.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
Yeah, that balcony.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
I hate going up there when I see depression up
there so bad. And then we found out why I
was feeling that because that was the black only entrance. Remember,
I found out after the fact that I got there.
I hate that area.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
The last time I was up there, I felt like
my body was being set on fire, like the whole
thing really, and I was like I have to get
everybody I was with.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
I was like, y'all can stay a pair. I need
to get down like I can't.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
So it's not just the me thing.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
See, Yeah, y'all for all of those who don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
We're talking about the Palace Theater in Marlin, and I
know we've mentioned this before on the show, but it
is like super active place.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
And yes, fate Casey is.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
An entity that haunts the balcony and that likes, well
likes to not like Alison. So that's that's what we're
referring to, as well as other energies and things. I
didn't know, Camille, that you had such a strong reaction
up there in the balcony every time I go up there.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, I just wanted to cry. I hated that balcony.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Wow, excelain so much more now, Yeah, I just go.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Up there with my cat falls and the cameras. Let's
do this. Wow. Okay, Well then I guess I was
thinking about this.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
You all have a good handle on your abilities. But
I talked to so many people that they're kind of
opening themselves up to their psychic abilities for the first time,
and they're like, how the hell do I turn this off?
I don't like this?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
How do I troll this? So do y'all have any
tips for that?

Speaker 4 (34:08):
I think everything still goes back to grounding yourself is
how you manage it. You just gotta always because like
when they're just opening up, sometimes it's hard for someone
to say, wait a minute, why am I feeling this.
That's not me, that's somebody else. It's hard to distinguish
sometimes what you're picking up, what's yours versus what somebody else's.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
I personally think it's kind of like a light switch.
For me, I mentally have to like imagine a light
switch and me slowly turning it on and off. Have
I don't. As a kid, I used to do that
experiment of like putting the light switch in the middle. Oh,

(34:51):
so if you have like a double light switch that
can turn on the same light, if you put it
in the middle, the other light switch technically doesn't work.
You can flip it all you want, as long as
that one light switches in the middle, it won't matter.
I did not know this, so I yeah, so I

(35:12):
because I didn't know about it, I always got told like,
don't do that. That's not a thing. It's it goes
against religion and stuff like that. So because again I
grew up, I grew up in a Catholic and Baptist household,
so it was that's not allowed, that goes against God.
You're not supposed to be doing that, so I kind

(35:35):
of had to secretly do it, and I ended up
shutting myself off for a while. But it's almost like
practicing keeping it in the middle some way. You you
physically have control of what comes through and what doesn't.
And if it's all the way on, it comes full blast,

(35:55):
like yeah, whereas if it's in the middle, you can
kind of filter out what's coming at you.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I like that. It's just kind of a visualization type thing.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
But that was just me.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
So well, I'm sure everybody.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm sure y'all have found ways to ground yourselves or
you know, hippie dippy music and laying in the dark room.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
That sounds really nice.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
I think that's more it is.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
I just want to be relaxed before I have to
go do anything.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, So, do y'all use anything like tools like tarot
cards or like so we just talked about crystals or
anything else, or do you just kind of.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Go in I mean I have some of those things.
I don't necessarily use them.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Right for us, like the tarot cards or whatever. It's
just a tool to keep our I think the motion
of the hands, keeping the hands busy is just quieting
the mind so you can It's not we're using them,
We're just writing the mind so we get more. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
Like sometimes if I'm doing a private reading, which I
really don't like to do but I do occasionally, I'll
bring like my pendulum because I feel like people want
to see something instead of me just sitting there having
a conversation with them.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Mm hm. That makes a lot of sense too.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
And I've heard that before where it's like these types
of tools are almost just to kind of help with focus. Right,
It's not they don't have any big magic in and
of themselves or anything. It's just to kind of help
you focus your abilities. That makes a lot of sense.
So are there anything? Is there anything that you won't

(37:27):
reveal to somebody if you get something negative about somebody
or their life.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Yeah, I wouldn't personally, just because it's the ethics type thing.
You never want to put fear onto somebody if there's
no need to.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
Not only that, but a lot of people want to
know what's going to happen, and I can't tell you.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
For sure, Like I can have.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
A change on it dying you always hear that it
actually can What I see is going to happen. But
if you do something to alter that, then you know,
or if you're in a situation where it does get altered,
then it changes, right.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Yeah, Like I I have the dream thing too, And
I had a dream once that someone that was someone
I knew was going to pass away, and I wasn't
gonna tell anybody, And then when it happened, other people
came to me and they're like, did you know?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (38:15):
And I'm like, I'm not going to tell you whether
I knew or not, because what would that help well
in your healing process?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Regardless?

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yeah, exactly, I have no control over whether it's going
to happen or not. And why would I put you
through that stress?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, it's what good will it do you?

Speaker 6 (38:30):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, that'd be like me saying, oh, I see it.
Within the next year, you're gonna be having lots of
legal issues in court battles, and then you're gonna spend
your own dire years stressed out, worried. Oh my god.
And I could have just said that and I totally
altered your energy your way of life the next year,
So why bothered?

Speaker 6 (38:50):
And that could have put that into motion, like maybe
exactly anything wasn't gonna happen, but you're saying it puts
into motion whatever too?

Speaker 4 (38:56):
All is that?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, yeah, that makes so much sense to me.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
That would be the hardest thing, you know, to get
really negative or life altering information.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I don't think anybody with any ethical mindset would. I
think they come to you because they have a need
or something they need answered, and you lift it up
and you kind of give them what they need and
put a spin on it where they feel more healthy.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Okay, it makes a lot of sense. That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
So do you get insights into your personal life, like
about yourself for example, like knowing who's going to text.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
You or call you before?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, nothing major, you know, like I
don't know when I'm going to die, but I know
I might know who's gonna call me today.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Okay, Like big things like people you're really really close
to you don't see you can't read them. It's easier
to read total strangers than your loved ones because that
can just it's it alters so much.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Well, yeah, you've got so much invested in that relationship
where you can't see it. That makes a lot of sense.
What about you dearie, Hi, Like.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
When I loved one that you're very very close to, Like,
since you have this gift and you can talk to
them and stuff, they have all these what am I
trying to say? Things they have to go through once
they're gone. So since you were so close, they may
go to somebody else before you, You know what I mean.
It takes way longer for you to communicate with your

(40:35):
own love and later.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
I do tell a lot of people like, even if
somebody could come through, I will not communicate with anybody
for the first year after they pass, because they need
that time on the other side.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
What is the word I'm looking for? They're going through
processes on the other side, and then they come back
with a whole new knowing and understanding.

Speaker 7 (40:53):
Yeah, like the whole universe opens up to you.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
I believe when you pass.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Huh, it's really interesting. So do you get any personal insights? No?

Speaker 5 (41:06):
I tend to block everything out when it personally comes
to me. If it has to do with me, I
block it out.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Turn the light switch into the middle kind of yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Until she stems her toe in the dark and she's like, oh.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
I think the only time I ever opened myself up
to it is with my uncle Joe, and that's because
he's one of my spirit guides. If it's not coming
from my uncle Joe, I don't pay attention to it.
If it's important enough for him to mention to me,
then great. If it's not, I'm not concerned about it.

(41:42):
That's just my philosophy on it.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Wasn't it your uncle Joe that we were like getting
pendulum hits on in the camera trading yes upstairs?

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Yes, yeah, so, And that's one of my things is
that I do call him my uncle Joe a lot,
like if it's one of those. And I don't know
if I've told you, but he actually passed like twenty
years before I was even born. He passed in seventy five,
and when I was fifteen, that's how I found out.
I ended up asking my mom about him. So that's

(42:16):
why I'm like, if it's not coming from uncle Joe,
it's fine, it's cool. It's not that big of a concern.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Okay, that's really interesting. Yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
That reminds me of that song from the eighties, Me
and Joe. Here we Go, So that's your theme song?

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, I mean, I have to say those with like
really scary accurate abilities there. Y'all are a little bit
intimidating to me because you are, because I'm thinking, what
the hell are they picking up?

Speaker 6 (42:48):
And meanwhile, I feel like, you know, I'll be sitting
on the couch eat and Cheetos, watching TV and I'll
be like, can you shut up to the dead people.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Quite a minute? I'm trying to get your a tshirt
because my mind's.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
Oh yeah, they'll do that all the time. They'll like
it's like sometimes they're like a little kid like hey, hey, hey,
And I'm like, can you leave me alone?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Please?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Really, like I'm not sure're going to give me the
answers for this exam in this class I'm taking. Please
leave me alone right now?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Oh my goodness. Why I didn't know you were pestered?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Sometimes sometimes it's important they'll keep picking until you say
okay and then pay attention.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
It's really weird when it's pestering and you're out in
public and it's something for a stranger.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Have you ever head that?

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
And I won't do that. I won't use and.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
I'm like, I'm not going to walk up. Like one
time I was at Cracker Barrel and it was this
older gentleman by himself, eating and it was his wife,
and she kept saying, tell him. I'm okay, tell him, okay,
tell mom, okay. He's upset, he needs this. And I'm like,
I I'm not going to walk up to this man
and say range yes, especially because he just looks so
sad eating by himself, and I'm like, I can't do
that to him.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Oh no, I won't do it now. I came close though.
It was a waitress. I was out eating and it
was a waitress and I kept getting getting getting, so
when it was time to pay, I wrote it on
the receipt and folded up, so she got it after
I left. She'll never remember me. But I delivered the
message that way.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Well, I guess that's one way to do it. I mean,
if you felt that compelled.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I just had to tell her. So I wrote it
on a receipt and lift it on the back of
my receipt.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
And then, like a lot of people seem to think,
like a lot of these shows like Long Island, medium
not gonna lie. I do watch it.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Oh, I love it, but it's publicity, it's.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
Yeah, But she just walks up to a random strangers.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
No.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
I mean, I'm sure that they're probably picked out for
the show. But like a lot of people will watch
that and think, oh, you have this ability, You're just
going to walk up to somebody and give them a message.
And I'm like, that's I'm not.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Going to do that. No.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
I will talk to the wall, but I'm not going
to just walk up to the total stranger and give
a Message's okay, nice to meet you, buy leave. I'm
not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (44:48):
Just you know, your grandpa says, hi, I have a
great day.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Whoa wait a minute, Wait a minute. Yeah, and I
can see that too. So what are what's one miss
that kind of like plays into this next question? What
is one myth about psychics that you just wish would
go away?

Speaker 7 (45:08):
I feel like I could write a book.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
Oh there's a lot. I mean that that one, and
a lot of people seem to think that we can
just it's a party trick and if you want a reading,
I can just tell you everything you want to know
right now. And that's and it doesn't Sometimes it doesn't
happen right.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
They think we can get it in your head and
I can tell you exactly what you ate or did
before you came to sit down here today. It's not
like that, you know. Yeah, it's usually only something that's
important that you need to know, is all I get? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Yeah, I think my favorite that I consistently get is
what what's the winning lotto numbers? Oh yeah, it's like
they think that you can just pick.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, psychics would rule the world.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
And it's like I've heard this before, but it's never
use it for personal gain, and using your ability to
get the lotto numbers would be personal gain. So it's like,
why bother using that. It's like, I'm not gonna take
the time out of my data figure out lotto numbers

(46:18):
like you.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Put using it because I think that's why we do
have it to help others. I mean, that's me and
that's the way I feel.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
I see it as another human ability, and that's why
I think a lot of scientists that have studied a
lot of researchers that have studied this, you know, and
just dismissed it. Oh, this is freak fake, this is
a fraud, This is a sham. And it's like, you
know what, you don't put other human abilities under a
microscope like that. I mean, you don't even put Olympic

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athletes under that microscope. I think of professional athletes and
batting averages or bowling averages. It's it's kind of like, no,
you this ability is there and it's steady and constant.
But you know, everybody has good days, bad days, you know.

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I think of the athletes where it's like, oh, I
had food poisoning last night, so yeah, I didn't scores
many baskets the next night. You know that type of
thing where it's it's kind of like or hey I
had a really stressful day, or hey I'm really tired,
or you know whatever it is. All of these things
impact this type of ability just like it impacts other

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abilities that people have, and but this one is, for
some reason put under a microscope.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I think it's just so people can try to prove
that it doesn't exist. It's like, oh, well, you.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Got that reading wrong, or you got this wrong, or
you weren't accurate, and it's like it's a bunch of nonsense.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Cuarly unknown. Again, I'm gonna prove you wrong because I'm
afraid of it, or I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, I don't understand it. I'm afraid of it. Whatever
it is.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
And I think a lot of people reference Houdini when
they talk about things like this because he vehemently tried
to disprove all psychic ability, and after he passed away,
his wife would have those regular sciences trying to communicate
with him because they had a code and they still do.
It was just on Ghost Adventures the other day. I
think it was an old season I watched, but.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
They were I just watched that same one too.

Speaker 6 (48:24):
Were in the Winchester House. Yes, yeah, And I.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Was like, I love Zach.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
I do want to say, No, one psychic is one
hundred percent accurate. No, it's because, like you mentioned, it's
they you don't know what they're going through. You can
get Robbie to go in, his reading might be completely
different from hers, and it's just because it's different people

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with different abilities and the spirits. We always talk about
spirits connecting with different people in different ways. It's people
place time.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Robbie could be.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
The right person at the wrong time, at the right place,
and then someone else goes in it could be the
right person, right place. So the information is going to
be different.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
That makes so much sense.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
So it's no one's sidekick is going to be one
hundred percent accurate. You would have to go in with
almost like a handful of them and piece it together.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
And I've done that before. It's pretty cool when you
have more than one and you're all getting different parts.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Of the same story, right, and different personalities too, you know,
pick up different that's the way of viewing is different.
So same as what you just said with athletes. Nobody's
going to get different ratings, not say one's wrong or
one's right, but it's.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Different and you can be focused on different things in
the environment.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Yeah, and I think your spiritual background, like your religious
upbringing and like what you practice currently also affects it
because I think that you're going to view the lens
of your abilities through that.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
So I have here at the very end because we
need to be wrapping up here about on Noah tips
on choosing a good psychic. So I'm just going to
read them off and you know, let me know your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
But for those of you out there.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
And I've had a lot of like paranormal investigators contact
me and say, oh, we would really love to have
a psychic, you know, come investigate with us and So
there are so many people out there that I've run
into that think.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
They're psychic and they're not.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
And sometimes it could be fraudulent, they may be purposely
trying to mislead. But other times, and this is like
probably the majority of the time, they just think they
have abilities when they really really don't. So kind of
the advice here is choosing a good psychic. Yes, make

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sure number one makes or.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
They've got genuine ability.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Right, you know, and and that they're not all caught
up in their ego. I've run into some people that
are really caught up in their ego and it's kind
of it's a huge red flag.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
Like when we were talking a few weeks ago and
I was telling you about some experiences I had, I
said to Cindy, I was like, oh, no, I feel
like I'm trying to get clout here, but I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
I was just talking about it was just exciting.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
This exciting thing happened. And sometimes I feel like that's
different than the ego thing, like, for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Oh that's way different. That's way different.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
And I look at those those TV personalities, you know,
and yeah, which is a good example of that, you know,
where it's kind of like, Hey, I have these special
abilities and I'm going to tell you all of these
things and I'm one hundred percent right, and don't question me.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I don't like that, yeah, because like I've been on
investigations with you before where I got absolutely nothing, and
I've been on places where I'm like, whoa, this is
popping and this is going on, this is going on.
So it just depends on what it happens, what's going
on in the energy, the else.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
The I thinking able to acknowledge that nothing is coming
through is part of the ego thing, because there's some people,
especially like people who want to be fraudulent.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Like oh yeah, we'll make it up on the spot,
and I can't do that. That's just not who I am.
I feel it. I'm going to tell you I don't
feel anything.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
So yeah, humility and both of you, I know I
know you well enough that yeah, you're you're really humble
about your abilities and you don't just broadcast them out there.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
And to me, another red flag is yeah, come come
to me, coming to me.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I'm going to be doing all these readings and all
this stuff, and you want to know your whole life
story and your future and da Dad, you know, you
just got to be really careful.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Make sure they have genuine abilities, right, yeah, which goes
into working well with others.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
I want to make sure you know that this is
not somebody that's difficult and is, you know, playing the
diva card.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
And that's always the biggest red flag is the because
I think a genuine intuitive or we are going to
work well with others, because we feel everyone's energy, so
we adjust. We're not wanting all the attention on us,
you know. Me, I want to hide enough shadows and
I'll tell you later what I got. Y'all, go do
your thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
You accommodate, Oh, definitely, yes. And we've already talked about this.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Realizing that your perceptions are filtered through your own beliefs
and that they're incomplete. You know, it's just another human ability,
and I think that's that's important to me.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
That would be a big.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Red flag of you know, I'm one hundred percent right,
you know, don't question me, you know, and I think
that's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Oh here's a big one too.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I've I've run into folks that claim that they have
psychic abilities and everything when they go into an investigation,
everything is paranormal, everything as it goes behind every corner.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
I think even if you have psychic ability, your goal
should be to look for the scientific and look for
why is this not an active spot?

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Right?

Speaker 6 (54:09):
Because if you go in expecting it to not be
active and then something happens, then it's like, okay, hold on.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Mm hmm, yeah, I agree with that, but but yeah,
it's kind of like, oh my gosh, there's a demon
in the corner, and there's.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Another ones the ones. That's why I don't tell anyone
when we go. I don't tell anyone to after the
fact if they ask, because so many people, oh, it's
a demon or oh it's demonic, or this has happened here,
and I'm just going, but I don't say, you know, yeah, you're.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
Like, oh, just everybody wants it to be demonic every time.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
That's demons are hot right now.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Apparently, yeah, they are out there, but I know.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah, but and what people like to be scared, And
I think it's just the it's so shocking, you know,
Oh if it's demonic, oh.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
Scary, scary, you know, they have a good story to telling.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Again, I've seen the things we've seen, they really would
be scared.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, my gosh.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
And finally, and I think this is important too, And
this kind of goes back to the whole diva thing.
You don't want somebody that takes themselves too seriously.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
You know somebody that can, oh, gee, you.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Have to laugh at yourself.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I made a mistake or yeah yeah, And so those
are those are kind of my type or my tips
for finding a good psychic.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
But we've already found good psychics. We're good to go.
Anything else anybody would like to.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Add, you know, here we go, Well, look at you.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Well, when you said when you've seen the things that
we've seen, her eyes got real wide, like what am
I doing?

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Yeah, no, I've I mean it's there, it's yeah, because
it's one of those things it takes them getting used to.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
And it's my tip is if I had to put
a tip in, I never recommend myself. That's my thing.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
I will always recommend somebody else. And just because I
know Robbie the best, My go to is typically Robbie.
But I don't ever recommend myself for anything, like if
someone's like, oh, can you go do this.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
I'm like, nope, I won't go either, because, like I
just said, if I go and I pick up nothing,
they'll be like he's a god. Yeah I'll go if
you're my friend, and if I see something, I'll tell
you if not.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
I've had that happen where somebody got my info through
somebody else asked me for a reading and I was like,
not really feeling it, but I went anyways and nothing
came through, and then it turned into a whole debacle
and people are like, she doesn't know what she's doing.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
It's like because it's not always gonna come through, And
I'm like, you run a marathon every day, Yeah I will.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
I will say, try to find slash, get as much
information as you possibly can beforehand, and then summarize it
for if you're gonna send a medium in and be like, hey,
this is for so and so, this is what they're
looking for. This is the generalization of what's going on.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
I like going in cold.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
So I like, for me, I'll be like, this is
so and so whatever and what it's like, Okay, but
that's just me because then even if they don't, if
they want it cold, I kind of know. And so
then if they're asking me questions and be like, okay, validate. Yeah,

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it's validating.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
That hotel when I walked in, yes getting anything and
I said, just a little girl. Well then that made
sense to all of y'all and y'all told me later.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
Right, yes, And I do think it helped like that
kind of thing, hope, Like that same night when I
told Robby, I was like, we don't need to be
going in this room, and he didn't know, and then
we ended up getting it later as to why, and
he's like, that makes sense now mm hm.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
So that's why I like to go in cold. Y'all
can know what's going on, and then when I say
it and y'all validate it, it makes me feel better.
Like like you said earlier, don't think your nuts.

Speaker 6 (58:21):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
It's like that triangulation piece.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
And like I said, and that's why it's it's so
great to have people with different abilities on the investigations
where it's kind of like, okay, I can I can
validate that with information I know, and Georgina can look
things up historically, and you know, we've got these psychic
impressions and the witness testimony, and then it creates a.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Really accurate picture.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
You have to build a whole Casemile.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Yes, It's like when we did the hotel, wasn't that
the hotel?

Speaker 4 (58:51):
And I told everything I was getting. Georgina had already
researched it on and had the proof, so she said, yes,
we have newspapers that validate that date that but me
personally wanted to go in not knowing anything.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, that was the Liberty Hotel in Cleeburn.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Yeah, but I'm talking about the hotel and was it
Marlon Mark where we did.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
The oh the Falls Hotel? Yeah, to the theater.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Yes, I remember. I was saying somebody's jumped or fell
off of this and whatever, and Georgiane is like, yeah,
I've already pulled or we have newspaper documents that that
backs that up.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, And I love get. That's when I get.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
We're really excited is when y'all are coming up with
information and it's verified, and it's like.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yes, it makes us feel better too.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Yes, yes, I think one I to go kind of
a little off topic. One misconception about people who have
these abilities is that we're never afraid of anything, because
I have encountered things like you said, when you've seen
things We've seen.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
I've encountered things that have scared the crap out of me.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Oh me too. Yeah, we're not invincible, that's what. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
I think that's a big misconception. A lot of people
have was like, Oh, you're not afraid of any I'm like, no,
I just pretend I'm not. I'm like the little kid
puffing my chest up like I got this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Through it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Well. Yeah, and I mean I can understand that too,
because you're seeing so much more than somebody like me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
That's kind of birthed her. I'm just going in blind.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
I try to go in like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yeah, but you don't because you already see things and
experience things so differently and so much more intently.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
So okay, any any last words.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
We're good, all right, Caroline.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
My friends call me Tangina, so that's pretty all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Well, thank you all for coming on.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
It was fun. And with that, I think we're going
to sign up see you next time.

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