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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Dot Cast Network, bringing our indie podcasts out of the shadows.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
There are over two hundred thousand unsolved homicides in the
United States justice system right now, and many of those
cases haven't seen the light of day in years, decades.
In some instances, the case files and evidence are sitting
in a box on a dusty shelf and a basement,
(00:31):
forgotten by law enforcement and the media, while the families
and friends left behind wait for answers and fight for justice.
Sometimes there is nobody left to remember or to speak
up on behalf of the victim.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm Marlene and I'm Leah, and that is exactly what
Box in the Basement sets out to do. To shine
a light on those forgotten victims and to bring attention
to unsolved murders and disappearances. We want to help family
tell their stories, and we want to assist the families
and friends of victims find the resources and support they
(01:06):
need to continue their fight for justice. Join us every
Thursday for new episodes of Box and the Basement wherever
you find your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hey everyone, it's Carmita and welcome to Missing in the PNW.
If you're new to my podcast this week, thanks for
checking me out and if you are one of my
awesome support of returning listeners, I have even better news
(02:06):
for you guys this week. I just checked the Facebook
post that I did last week for Leona, and guys,
that Facebook post had the most out of all of
the Facebook posts that I've done on cases, had the
most attention, which I am so so happy for. It
(02:28):
had over twelve hundred people look at it. Twelve hundred
people now know Leona's story. Twelve hundred people now are
more aware of what happened to Leona, and that is
because more than fifty of you shared. I had about
(02:51):
two hundred and fifty post engagements. You guys are so
awesome because again you may not think you are, but
you are helping me get these people's keys out there
and back in some type of attention that they definitely deserve. So,
of course, we are celebrating Native American Heritage Month, and
(03:13):
this past Monday, which was November fifteenth, there was actually
a little bit of good news I wanted to share
with you. So President Biden signed an executive order aimed
at improving public safety and criminal justice for Native Americans.
They are known to be targets of violent crimes at
a much higher rate than the national average. According to
(03:35):
a twenty nineteen CENTUS estimate, five point six million people
identify as an American Indian or Alaskan Native. And in
twenty twenty, Congress did pass two pieces of legislation. One
was Savannah's Act and the other one was not Invisible
Act of twenty nineteen. And then, however, honestly, guys, the
(03:59):
Department of Justice and the Department of the Interior have
still not fulfilled certain requirements set by those acts. And
that's super frustrating when we advocate so much for stuff
like this and people who are supposed to come through
don't come through, which is one of my biggest pet peeves,
(04:21):
and it's so annoying, and I'm sorry that people still
have to go through this. Even President Biden had said
that these legislations and other previous executive actions have not
been sufficient to reverse the epidemic of violence against American Indians.
Tribal leaders have long spoken about an apparent lack of
(04:41):
urgency to Indigenous women who are murdered or missing because
of historic and systemic racism and prejudice, for instance, also
fear or mistrust of law enforcement leads to underreporting and
misclassifications of race and manner of death often mighty than
And we're gonna talk about misclassifications of race again unfortunately
(05:04):
in today's episode. So let's jump right on in and
get to that. So today we're going to discuss the
case of Alisa Angelique Maclamore. So Alisa was a caretaker
for her mother, Gracie, who unfortunately had a skin tightening
(05:25):
disease called scleroderma. Now, what scleroderma is is a group
of rare diseases that involves hardening and tightening of the
skin and connective tissues. So this affects women between thirty
and fifty and it's a super painful, uh, disease that's
(05:49):
kind of all over your body. Now, it was reported
there was actually two different reports that I saw. One
was April ninth and the other one was April tenth
of two thousand and nine. From what I read and
what I heard in articles from the family, it sounded
like everything was more on April ninth. So on April ninth,
(06:12):
two thousand and nine, Alissa was away from home and
received a frantic call from her grandma Barbara, who had
told Alissa that she needed to get home fast because
your mom was dying. Her mom was in the hospital
at the time, suffering from her unfortunate disease that she had,
and when Alyssa heard that, being that she was her
(06:33):
mom's caretaker, she I can imagine, try to immediately get home.
She was supposed to visit her mom in the hospital. Unfortunately,
she never showed up, which of course her family thought
was weird. And it's unclear when they tried to file
a missing person's report, but I know that the family
(06:55):
did try and it was objected. I want to take
a guess why, Because they said that you had to
wait twenty four hours to report someone missing. Everybody want
to say it with me? No, you don't. Anybody wanna again?
(07:18):
You know, tell me how many times I say this,
because I feel like I say it a lot. I
don't care what anyone in Oregon or Washington says. There
is no mandatory twenty four hour waiting period to report
someone missing. Again, this podcast is all about the Pacific Northwest,
(07:41):
all about Oregon and Washington, so I can't speak for
other states, but in Oregon and Washington, you do not
have to wait twenty four hours to report someone missing.
So as we move on, this is where kind of
the timeline gets mixed up because there was a report
that on April tenth, there was actually a nine to
(08:02):
one one call by Alissa, and Alissa's family actually didn't
even know she was missing. The only reason and way
that they found out she was missing after this, or actually,
i'm sorry, before all of this, before they tried, you know,
and obviously unsuccessfully tried to report her missing. They didn't
(08:25):
really know she was officially missing until the Kent Police
actually showed up at her grandma's Dorset and so what
they were told was that they were responding to a
nine to one one call that Alissa actually made herself.
(08:47):
Now they never said where she was. They couldn't find
out exactly where Lissa was when she made the call,
and the nine one one call is considered evident. However,
a transcript was released just earlier this year, in twenty
twenty one that the family finally got to read me.
They've never been able to hear her voice, so I
(09:13):
can't even imagine what their thought processes was and what
they were going through when they read this. So I
am just like so terrified because I could hear this
creepy man in my head. Supposedly there were two witnesses
who saw Alissa with a white man in his fifties
(09:34):
or sixties who was driving a green truck with an
out of state license plate. And when you go back
to the NIE on one call, it actually makes sense
because unfortunately Alyssa called nine one one and she said
two words quote helped me unquote. At that time, a
(09:59):
man was actually heard interrupting her and saying, quote, I'll
hurt you unquote, and then the line went dead. How
creepy is that? I still again, I can't even imagine
what her family was going through just reading that, and
they know Lissa's voice, so just hearing that and the
(10:19):
probably like trauma, and just how scared she was, the
fear of everything I can't even imagine now. Unfortunately, three
days after Alyssa went missing, her mother did end up
dying in the hospital, never knowing what had happened to
her daughter. Now, Alyssa herself has a daughter named Novella,
(10:43):
who was just three years old at the time of
her disappearance, and Alyssa did have a boyfriend, and her
boyfriend said that she was a loving parent who had
never abandoned their child. Her daughter's now sixteen, guys, and
for the last thirteen years, Bill has no idea what
happened to her mother. Can you imagine being three, your
(11:05):
mom just disappearing, and you're sixteen, now sweet sixteen, and
you still have no idea what happened to your mom?
I cannot believe and I could not like tell you how.
I'm just I have three daughters of my own. You
guys know this, and I can't imagine what her daughter's
(11:28):
going through not knowing. Now Here is where I'm going
to go on another little rant, and you guys are
just gonna have to bear with me. Alissa is a
Native American. She is a member of the Alute tribe.
She's described as being five foot one inches tall, one
(11:49):
hundred and thirty pounds, with brown eyes and black hair,
which she sometimes dies belonde. She was young, full of life,
and loved to roller skate and dance. Now here's the
part that annoys me. She has been mislabeled by NamUs,
And if you listen to my last couple episodes, NamUs
(12:11):
is the National Missing and Unidentified Person System. So NamUs
has Alissa as Asian or Pacific Islander. And again, like
I talked about earlier, like I talked about in Leona's case,
like I talked about in Lisa's case, these women, mostly
(12:34):
Native American women, get miss labeled, misclassified, and it's so
annoying because it hurts when people are trying to track
these missing persons and these murders. It hurts to be
miss labeled as a different race than what you actually are.
(12:55):
Alissa is not Asian or Pacific Islander. Alyssa is Native American.
I really wish that names would look into these things
more and get stuff right, because this hurts a lot
of people in a lot of cases. The other thing
that is so unfortunate and I'm so upset about, is
(13:16):
it had been reported that, unfortunately, Alyssa may have been
a victim of sex trafficking. Again, you heard this in
the KK White story. It's something that happens, you know,
up in Washington, Oregon. Washington have really bad numbers when
(13:40):
it comes to human trafficking and sex trafficking, and unfortunately
that might have been something that Alissa got, you know,
caught up in. So again, Alissa, if you're out there,
you still have family who loves you, who misses you,
(14:02):
who won't stop looking for you. Your daughter is a full
blown grown teenager now she's sixteen. She loves and misses you,
and she wants to know what happened to her mom
all those years ago. So if anybody please again, you
guys know nobody goes missing just off the face of
(14:25):
the earth. Someone knows something, someone saw something, someone heard something,
someone's too afraid to say something. So please, if you
know anything about Alissa's disappearance, you owe it to her daughter.
You owe it to her family to help them bring
justice for Alissa and figure out what happened to Alissa,
(14:49):
good or bad. Her family deserves closure again. Alissa is
Native American, being five foot one inches tall, one hundred
and thirty pounds, with brown eyes and black hair which
at the time I believe she did have it died blonde.
Of course, you can leave an anonymous tip on the
Kent Police tipline at two five three eight five six
(15:11):
five eight zero eight. I will, of course post all
of this to the Facebook page, the Instagram page, and
if anybody, you guys are doing so much good things
already with sharing and liking, please continue to share, download, subscribe,
(15:32):
leave me a review on Apple Podcasts if that's what
you're listening on. If there is a specific app that
you're listening on that you can leave comments. I encourage
you to leave comments and give me your thoughts on
these cases. I encourage you to give me feedback, let
me know what you want to hear, let me know
you know how you guys like the podcast. I couldn't
(15:54):
do this stuff without all of you, guys, without the
support of my friends and family. Thank you so much.
We will talk, of course, next week we will have
another missing person case. The episode next week will be
out the day before Turkey Day and a couple of
days before Indigenous People's Day. I might just have a
(16:17):
little something special for you that day. But until then, guys,
remember have fun, but be safe.
Dot Cast Network, bringing our indie podcasts out of the shadows.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
There are over two hundred thousand unsolved homicides in the
United States justice system right now, and many of those
cases haven't seen the light of day in years, decades.
In some instances, the case files and evidence are sitting
in a box on a dusty shelf and a basement,
(00:31):
forgotten by law enforcement and the media, while the families
and friends left behind wait for answers and fight for justice.
Sometimes there is nobody left to remember or to speak
up on behalf of the victim.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm Marlene and I'm Leah, and that is exactly what
Box in the Basement sets out to do. To shine
a light on those forgotten victims and to bring attention
to unsolved murders and disappearances. We want to help family
tell their stories, and we want to assist the families
and friends of victims find the resources and support they
(01:06):
need to continue their fight for justice. Join us every
Thursday for new episodes of Box and the Basement wherever
you find your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hey everyone, it's Carmita and welcome to Missing in the PNW.
If you're new to my podcast this week, thanks for
checking me out and if you are one of my
awesome support of returning listeners, I have even better news
(02:06):
for you guys this week. I just checked the Facebook
post that I did last week for Leona, and guys,
that Facebook post had the most out of all of
the Facebook posts that I've done on cases, had the
most attention, which I am so so happy for. It
(02:28):
had over twelve hundred people look at it. Twelve hundred
people now know Leona's story. Twelve hundred people now are
more aware of what happened to Leona, and that is
because more than fifty of you shared. I had about
(02:51):
two hundred and fifty post engagements. You guys are so
awesome because again you may not think you are, but
you are helping me get these people's keys out there
and back in some type of attention that they definitely deserve. So,
of course, we are celebrating Native American Heritage Month, and
(03:13):
this past Monday, which was November fifteenth, there was actually
a little bit of good news I wanted to share
with you. So President Biden signed an executive order aimed
at improving public safety and criminal justice for Native Americans.
They are known to be targets of violent crimes at
a much higher rate than the national average. According to
(03:35):
a twenty nineteen CENTUS estimate, five point six million people
identify as an American Indian or Alaskan Native. And in
twenty twenty, Congress did pass two pieces of legislation. One
was Savannah's Act and the other one was not Invisible
Act of twenty nineteen. And then, however, honestly, guys, the
(03:59):
Department of Justice and the Department of the Interior have
still not fulfilled certain requirements set by those acts. And
that's super frustrating when we advocate so much for stuff
like this and people who are supposed to come through
don't come through, which is one of my biggest pet peeves,
(04:21):
and it's so annoying, and I'm sorry that people still
have to go through this. Even President Biden had said
that these legislations and other previous executive actions have not
been sufficient to reverse the epidemic of violence against American Indians.
Tribal leaders have long spoken about an apparent lack of
(04:41):
urgency to Indigenous women who are murdered or missing because
of historic and systemic racism and prejudice, for instance, also
fear or mistrust of law enforcement leads to underreporting and
misclassifications of race and manner of death often mighty than
And we're gonna talk about misclassifications of race again unfortunately
(05:04):
in today's episode. So let's jump right on in and
get to that. So today we're going to discuss the
case of Alisa Angelique Maclamore. So Alisa was a caretaker
for her mother, Gracie, who unfortunately had a skin tightening
(05:25):
disease called scleroderma. Now, what scleroderma is is a group
of rare diseases that involves hardening and tightening of the
skin and connective tissues. So this affects women between thirty
and fifty and it's a super painful, uh, disease that's
(05:49):
kind of all over your body. Now, it was reported
there was actually two different reports that I saw. One
was April ninth and the other one was April tenth
of two thousand and nine. From what I read and
what I heard in articles from the family, it sounded
like everything was more on April ninth. So on April ninth,
(06:12):
two thousand and nine, Alissa was away from home and
received a frantic call from her grandma Barbara, who had
told Alissa that she needed to get home fast because
your mom was dying. Her mom was in the hospital
at the time, suffering from her unfortunate disease that she had,
and when Alyssa heard that, being that she was her
(06:33):
mom's caretaker, she I can imagine, try to immediately get home.
She was supposed to visit her mom in the hospital. Unfortunately,
she never showed up, which of course her family thought
was weird. And it's unclear when they tried to file
a missing person's report, but I know that the family
(06:55):
did try and it was objected. I want to take
a guess why, Because they said that you had to
wait twenty four hours to report someone missing. Everybody want
to say it with me? No, you don't. Anybody wanna again?
(07:18):
You know, tell me how many times I say this,
because I feel like I say it a lot. I
don't care what anyone in Oregon or Washington says. There
is no mandatory twenty four hour waiting period to report
someone missing. Again, this podcast is all about the Pacific Northwest,
(07:41):
all about Oregon and Washington, so I can't speak for
other states, but in Oregon and Washington, you do not
have to wait twenty four hours to report someone missing.
So as we move on, this is where kind of
the timeline gets mixed up because there was a report
that on April tenth, there was actually a nine to
(08:02):
one one call by Alissa, and Alissa's family actually didn't
even know she was missing. The only reason and way
that they found out she was missing after this, or actually,
i'm sorry, before all of this, before they tried, you know,
and obviously unsuccessfully tried to report her missing. They didn't
(08:25):
really know she was officially missing until the Kent Police
actually showed up at her grandma's Dorset and so what
they were told was that they were responding to a
nine to one one call that Alissa actually made herself.
(08:47):
Now they never said where she was. They couldn't find
out exactly where Lissa was when she made the call,
and the nine one one call is considered evident. However,
a transcript was released just earlier this year, in twenty
twenty one that the family finally got to read me.
They've never been able to hear her voice, so I
(09:13):
can't even imagine what their thought processes was and what
they were going through when they read this. So I
am just like so terrified because I could hear this
creepy man in my head. Supposedly there were two witnesses
who saw Alissa with a white man in his fifties
(09:34):
or sixties who was driving a green truck with an
out of state license plate. And when you go back
to the NIE on one call, it actually makes sense
because unfortunately Alyssa called nine one one and she said
two words quote helped me unquote. At that time, a
(09:59):
man was actually heard interrupting her and saying, quote, I'll
hurt you unquote, and then the line went dead. How
creepy is that? I still again, I can't even imagine
what her family was going through just reading that, and
they know Lissa's voice, so just hearing that and the
(10:19):
probably like trauma, and just how scared she was, the
fear of everything I can't even imagine now. Unfortunately, three
days after Alyssa went missing, her mother did end up
dying in the hospital, never knowing what had happened to
her daughter. Now, Alyssa herself has a daughter named Novella,
(10:43):
who was just three years old at the time of
her disappearance, and Alyssa did have a boyfriend, and her
boyfriend said that she was a loving parent who had
never abandoned their child. Her daughter's now sixteen, guys, and
for the last thirteen years, Bill has no idea what
happened to her mother. Can you imagine being three, your
(11:05):
mom just disappearing, and you're sixteen, now sweet sixteen, and
you still have no idea what happened to your mom?
I cannot believe and I could not like tell you how.
I'm just I have three daughters of my own. You
guys know this, and I can't imagine what her daughter's
(11:28):
going through not knowing. Now Here is where I'm going
to go on another little rant, and you guys are
just gonna have to bear with me. Alissa is a
Native American. She is a member of the Alute tribe.
She's described as being five foot one inches tall, one
(11:49):
hundred and thirty pounds, with brown eyes and black hair,
which she sometimes dies belonde. She was young, full of life,
and loved to roller skate and dance. Now here's the
part that annoys me. She has been mislabeled by NamUs,
And if you listen to my last couple episodes, NamUs
(12:11):
is the National Missing and Unidentified Person System. So NamUs
has Alissa as Asian or Pacific Islander. And again, like
I talked about earlier, like I talked about in Leona's case,
like I talked about in Lisa's case, these women, mostly
(12:34):
Native American women, get miss labeled, misclassified, and it's so
annoying because it hurts when people are trying to track
these missing persons and these murders. It hurts to be
miss labeled as a different race than what you actually are.
(12:55):
Alissa is not Asian or Pacific Islander. Alyssa is Native American.
I really wish that names would look into these things
more and get stuff right, because this hurts a lot
of people in a lot of cases. The other thing
that is so unfortunate and I'm so upset about, is
(13:16):
it had been reported that, unfortunately, Alyssa may have been
a victim of sex trafficking. Again, you heard this in
the KK White story. It's something that happens, you know,
up in Washington, Oregon. Washington have really bad numbers when
(13:40):
it comes to human trafficking and sex trafficking, and unfortunately
that might have been something that Alissa got, you know,
caught up in. So again, Alissa, if you're out there,
you still have family who loves you, who misses you,
(14:02):
who won't stop looking for you. Your daughter is a full
blown grown teenager now she's sixteen. She loves and misses you,
and she wants to know what happened to her mom
all those years ago. So if anybody please again, you
guys know nobody goes missing just off the face of
(14:25):
the earth. Someone knows something, someone saw something, someone heard something,
someone's too afraid to say something. So please, if you
know anything about Alissa's disappearance, you owe it to her daughter.
You owe it to her family to help them bring
justice for Alissa and figure out what happened to Alissa,
(14:49):
good or bad. Her family deserves closure again. Alissa is
Native American, being five foot one inches tall, one hundred
and thirty pounds, with brown eyes and black hair which
at the time I believe she did have it died blonde.
Of course, you can leave an anonymous tip on the
Kent Police tipline at two five three eight five six
(15:11):
five eight zero eight. I will, of course post all
of this to the Facebook page, the Instagram page, and
if anybody, you guys are doing so much good things
already with sharing and liking, please continue to share, download, subscribe,
(15:32):
leave me a review on Apple Podcasts if that's what
you're listening on. If there is a specific app that
you're listening on that you can leave comments. I encourage
you to leave comments and give me your thoughts on
these cases. I encourage you to give me feedback, let
me know what you want to hear, let me know
you know how you guys like the podcast. I couldn't
(15:54):
do this stuff without all of you, guys, without the
support of my friends and family. Thank you so much.
We will talk, of course, next week we will have
another missing person case. The episode next week will be
out the day before Turkey Day and a couple of
days before Indigenous People's Day. I might just have a
(16:17):
little something special for you that day. But until then, guys,
remember have fun, but be safe.
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