ODFM One Dogman From Murder

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This episode is one dog Man from Murder. All right,

(01:28):
So we are going back to the year two thousand
and six and we're in Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh, because it was in the.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Town of Medicine Hat in southeast Alberta, Canada, which I
guess is like just directly north of Montana, although my
friend is a really big state.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
So it's very specific. But yeah, yeah, very not sat
far right, No, it's crazy how closely her.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So apparently it's known as one of the best places
to live in Canada. It's got affordable homes and Googles
and a low crime rates. So this is not the
kind of place where you think that a story like
I'm about to tell what happened?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Okay, yeah, thank you. So typical little town Canada.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I always think cold right further north's cold, right.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It is dubbed the sunniest city in Canada because they
have about three hundred days of sunshine a year. So
it gets warm in the summer, it gets cold in
the winter, but the sun is still out.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Wow. Okay, so it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
So this is a beautiful, great spot. People move here,
just like the family I'm going to tell you about.
So okay, Deborah and Deborah and Mark Richardson, who had
met in nineteen ninety at a gym.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Oh okay, so that really does happen. It's not like
in the.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Where people meet in the gym, I guess. So, although
I'm a little unclear if they met because they were
both working out or because they were both attending these classes,
because so they met at the gym. They had classes
for recovering addicts. Oh, I don't know if they were
like workout classes or like recover That part's a little fuzzy,

(03:09):
but that's okay. By the time they met, they had
both been sober for quite a while. They both had
pasts with alcohol and drugs, and they had cleaned up
their lives and then they met, so they understood each
other right and they were both ready to move on
as functioning adults and have a brand new, fresh start.
So they got married in nineteen ninety one, and two

(03:30):
years later they had a daughter they named Jasmine, and
then four years later they had a son named Tyler Jacob.
And they were good people. They were hard working. They
weren't rich, but they made sure that their kids didn't
go without. They worked really hard for every dollar that
they had. And by the fall of two thousand and three,
Mark was I'm not sure if he got promoted or

(03:50):
he got a new job, but either way, that's when
the Richardson family moved to Medicine Hack. Because they moved
to this great location, got a really nice it was
a modest house, but for them it was it was
a big upgrade for them. It was great, right. Jasmine
was nine, Tyler was five. At this time. Deborah often

(04:11):
sponsored other recovering addicts and spoke at like narcotics anonymous
meetings like she was trying to give back, like, hey,
I survived, you guys can.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Too, right, Yeah, could help give advice, and.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
She also offered like holistic therapy out of their house.
So I feel like they, Yeah, they're a pretty good
example that they were setting for their.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Kids, absolutely on a good path, and by.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
All accounts, they were like the epitome of a normal,
happy famular family. Right, family of four. Family, family of four.
They got a boy, they got a girl. They attended
church weekly. Jasmine was a beautiful young girl. She had
a bright smile and long, silky dark hair and bright
blue eyes. She thrived at school and she was an

(04:57):
honor student at Saint Mary's Catholic School in medicine. Hat
She was well behaved. She adored her little brother. He
looked up to her. You know, everything seems to yeah, okay,
but you know that all sounds too good, right.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, it sounds like the ship hit the fans.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
So yeah, and the ship that was coming, it's like
an evil that we all know calls teenage hormones. Oh no,
it's an evil.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's it's a it's a fucking struggle.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Not it's an evil. Right. So, at this point, Jasmine
is twelve years old and she's looking to find herself.
She's pushing some boundaries, she's testing her limits, you know.
Of course, outwardly to family and friends, she remained sweet
and bubbly, but she was starting to struggle internally. And

(05:49):
this is the age of the internet. But before we
really knew the dangers of the internet.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, it was. It was so innocent seeming at first.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now right, better, she's going online and she's exploring at
different websites, and she's chatting with people online. We don't
know where they are. Yeah, and she's coming exposed to
some other things, which isn't always a bad thing. No, maybe,
when you're twelve, it's not.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's a little too soon, maybe.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
So she started listening to death metal. Yeah, okay, I
can relate, okay, And outwardly she started to embrace more
of a quote unquote goth look.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
She started doing the dark eyeliner and the blackish red
lipstick and all black clothing, and her parents were like, okay,
this is this is normal, right, right, I mean totally.
They had a younger life where they went into drugs
and alcohol.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
They're like, you know, if you want to change your
hair and worth some crazy makeup and do shit, go
for it.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
We're like, that's cool, right.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
They only had a problem with it when she started
getting in trouble at school. Oh shit, family for the
clothing she was wearing because she was sometimes she would
have chains and spiked collars and that just didn't fly
at the Catholic school.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh I forgot this Catholic Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
So they're like, look, you can experiment, but like you can't.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Like what if she just added crosses instead of right spikes? Yeah, okay,
maybe if she had just.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Done the all black, she could have been like, I'm
thinking of a futurism nun and then.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Just let it go.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
And they're like, oh, but again she's she's this good
kid and she's trying to see Yeah, she wants to
kind of find herself, right. So she had several accounts
on social networks like my Space, right because this was
the age of my Space. But she also started going
on a site called vampire freaks dot com.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Wow. Okay, they have good clothes, because I kind of
sounds like a place I might visit.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, it wasn't like hot topic, this was this was
a social Netflix chat.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, so it was geared more towards goth emo punk scene, right.
And there she had some other profiles where she went
like by names like X Killer Kitty X and Runaway Devil.
And again, she's twelve, but she lists herself fifteen.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I can forget she's only twelve. Wow, right, and you.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Know, and I have some of the pictures. She started
posting pictures of herself where she looked way older than twelve.
Oh yeah, so she she probably had developed a little
early side, but she played that up and then with
all the makeup and stuff. Oh girls not looked twelve.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I've seen them at the schools.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You're like, whoa, But are you sure you're not preak
development wise? Yeah, she's still twelve. Still on her profile there,
she listed several harmless I mean they're relatively harmless interests
like piercings, tattoos, unnatural hair colors, loud music, horror movies
okay yeah, but mixed in with her interests where things
like scarification. Oh, hatchets, fire blood, dumb.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Blood, dut duct type tape. I mean she could make
some really cool di y crafts with duct tape. Maybe
that's right, like.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
The wallets and stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, Yeah, yeah, she was going with.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
There's no there's no no, no, you're.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Twelve, there's no line that twelve, we hold hands.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Maybe we're not duct tape. Well we're not, we're not.
I do remember people duck taping others to like walls
and stuff as jokes at school. Yeah, seriously, twelve or
like older middle school. That's middle school is rough.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I will agree. My daughter is two weeks away from
like getting out of there, and we are counting, both
counting down the days. Yes, little school.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Is it's rough, but I don't think they knew anything
about duct tape.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
As an I've told her repeatedly, nobody liked middle school.
You survive middle school. She also listed her heroes as
Jeffrey Dahmer, Chris Angel, Marilyn Manson, Danny Filth. I had
to look that up, but he's the lead singer of
some weird band and.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Batman Batman versus. I mean, yes, the Dark Knight. I guess,
oh maybe Batman I'm good with. And who was the
second one you said with.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Chris Angel He's got some cool Jeffrey Dahmer, although I
will I'm pretty sure in my senior I don't know,
there's like a senior magazine or something from high school. Now,
granted I was older than twelve, I'm pretty sure I
put one of my personal heroes as Amy Fisher, which,
looking back, I'm like, wow, that was pretty tasteless. I
don't know what I know.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
At the time, I was sunny and it's just stupid.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, I know, right, And now I'm like, wow that,
I'm so glad that I was permanently written down something.
But anyway, again, nothing is seriously disturbing about this. Yeah,
she's like, you're gonna regret doing that in a couple
of years. Thought that was dumb.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, like she's looking for attention and wanting to look
tough for what she was.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And oh something about her like personal statement with something
along the lines of welcome to my ultimate demise or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm like, wow, Yeah, she's listening to a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm just like, what ebs. You know, she's just she's
testing things out right, you know, she's she's just just
pushing her boundaries. She's she's very much a subject of
her normal suburban life, and she's seeing what else is
out there, and she's being exposed to some very new
things because all of a sudden Internet.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Right, absolutely, And she's probably just trying to make herself
seem tougher than she is.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Exactly cool.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, and at.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
First she's really just talking to other teens online that
share her interests, although you don't really know that their
teens don't know who they're talking to, right.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
No, No, at the time, you trusted everybody.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Right, if someone said that they were another onelve year
old girl, you just assumed they were.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, why why lie didn't know that there were these creepoids?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well this is not actually that's the Internet ended up
being the least of her issues.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
She started attending local punk rock shows with her friends.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Okay, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
This is where she met a boy. Oh crap, this
is where those horrmones and.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
He's probably like nineteen or twenty or so.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Well, he actually told her that he was a three
hundred year old werewolf.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Oh well that's even more believable.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yes, this is where I struggle because I'm like she
was an honor student.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Huh uh, this is where fantasy comes in. Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
His name was Jeremy Stinky and he was twenty three,
so WWI is her age?

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I had a feeling he was. Yeah, but he's a werewolf,
so it doesn't matter, I guess.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
And he bragged about enjoying the taste of blood. Oh god,
and he wore a vial of it around his neck.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Of course he did. It was probably just colored water
that he said with blood. But you know, right.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
First, this is where we got to go off on
a little tangent. First of all, as you know from
my past, I dated some questionable people.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, we both have.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Long after I was twelve, right, But I really really
feel like if any of those dumbasses had tried to
tell me that they were a three hundred year old werewolf,
I would have been like, okay, we're done.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Oh yeah, well what does that? That's hilarious? Like what
I mean, what are you trying to do? Because that's hilarious?
Are you going to make a YouTube channel?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Something? But no?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay. I also want to point out that the first
Twilight book didn't come out till two years later.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Okay, so that was my other thought was the Twilight That.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Was my first thought, right well, because I also was
confused because I was like, he liked the taste of blood.
That's vampires, like you're getting, you're getting anything, you're getting.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Your guys don't even have your side. There's only two
sides to that. Exactly are you a Jacob or are
you an Edward?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
What's the thing? Right? You kids? Anyway, So the first
Twilight book didn't come out till two years after, right, right,
And we didn't know that Jacob was a werewolf until
book two, which came out even after that. Like, yeah,
I read them all, Okay, I saw all the movies,
all right. I was into I will admit, Okay, but

(14:36):
here's the other thing. Jeremy did not look anything like
Jacob or Taylor Lawton.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
He was not it, Okay, not a good one, he
was okay.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So he was more vampiresh right, light bleached hair that
was buzzed and starting to recede. So by three hundred
years old, I get that, Like, so you really are,
like I said, he's got this hair that's starting to recede.
He at least the one picture. I only have two
images of him. The one picture. He's got the dark

(15:08):
eyeliner around his eyes and the pale blue eyes, which
just made him look that much more washed out. He
had the septum ring in his nose like the bull noose.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Like was he super thin too? Yeah? Okay, so that track.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Andy was in a heavy metal band. So this was
every parent's dream for daughter's first port.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
They're like, please, don't the nightmare has started.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Imagine. Jeremy Stunky had a rough upbringing. He did not
grow up the way Jasmine grew up. Okay. His mother
was an alcoholic, probably in as a way to lose
herself from Jeremy's father, who was abusive to both him
and her.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Of course, yeah, so's it's just trying to escape, right.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
And then after his father left and they got divorced,
his mother actually remarried twice. Both of his stepdads were
physically physically abusive to Jeremy.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
So by the top, by the age of thirteen, it
was one of our thirteens. Okay, He out of probably
desperation of his life situation, developed this new persona oka
of a goth were wolf that drank blood.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Okay, so this is almost like his dissociative yeah, disorder
type thing.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, Okay. He dropped out of high school after being bullied,
which I can't imagine because like fifteen, telling everyone you're
three hundred ye were wolf, They're gonna be like.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
They're gonna yeah, they're going to really make fun of him.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh no, So he drops out of high school by
two thousand and six, which is when our story happens.
He wasn't working, he was just playing in his band,
living in a trailer with his mom, okay, and spent
most of his time I'm online talking to girls. Girls,
not women.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, just girls. Oh he's twenty three, little stuck in.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
The Most were way younger than him, which yeah, I mean,
if you're three hundred years old, werewolf, most people are
younger than that, right, So I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I mean everybody they were way, yeah, way younger. Yeah.
So he's kind of an like he never grew up
and he still got his.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, he kind of got stunted right there. Right when
they met at the punk show, Jeremy or Jasmine told
Jeremy she was fifteen because you know that whole three
years Yeah, makes a hero, and the edge gap didn't
bother him because like I said, all the girls, right,
He's used to dating girls that are at least two
hundred and eighty years younger than him, so it's cool

(17:45):
too whatever, So they all yeah, he exchanged, They exchanged
info and continued to talk through vampire freaks dot com,
where his profile name was sole.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Oh yeah, I want to want to be with soul
Eater at the hot game, and.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Then their relationship kind of developed through those conversations like
here we go. In a message to run Away Devil
from a Soul Eater that was posted March eighth, two
thousand and six, he wrote, God, I can't get over

(18:26):
not seeing or talking to you. I yearn to hear
your soft subtle misspelled the word subtle, subtle voice, and
long to be held in your arms, wherever that might be.
I don't care, but just to share the time we
have together with you are to die for and there
is not anything that could ever replace the way you

(18:47):
make me feel hearts, I miss you, I love you,
And then it goes on and on about how he's
going to write yet another song about her, and this
poem right, it ends with talk to you lateruttle bunny,
hugs and kisses. So Yeah, he's dark.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I was because he doesn't sound so tough, like he's
not talking about eating your soul. He's just in love.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, puddle bunny, good bunny.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'm gonna drink your blood later though.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Anyway, you know, as a as a testament to his
love for her, he gave her a vial of his
own blood to wear around her neck, like in the
day they would give their pin or orange rings or
wear a letter in his jacket. Yeah, no, no, no,
blood of blood.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I don't want your secretions in any form, especially on
me all the time.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Thank you. So do you remember when didn't Angelina Jolie
do that with Yeah, yeah, Billy Bob Thornton, Billy Bob.
They also looked very they had an age discreption, Yeah
they did.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
He's much older. Yeah, it's not anyway.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, so Jason starts wearing this vile of blood. This
is when her parents discover that their twelve year old
is dating a twenty three year old and slash werewolf.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
There's like, what's that new necklace? Honey? That's odd? Does
it have blood in it?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Does it have We've exchanged the dog collar for what now?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, this is a step up, isn't it. She is
obviously immediately grounded.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
They're like, hells, oh but that's going to blow up too.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So oh yeah, she's forbidden to see him, and they
took away her computer. So now this is I looked
it up. This is a good two years before smartphones
were like really a thing. So no computer, no internet
like that was her only.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
She couldn't talk to him. Now she couldn't talk to him,
and they don't live in the same area.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I I'm not sure they wasn't that far from each other,
but you know that was her contact with him. Yeah, yeah,
so but you know, she played the good girl for
a period of time, and you know they're like, okay,
you're behaving. You're as long as you promise to stop
all contact with Jeremy, then you can have your computer back.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yes, And of course she didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
She just got better at hiding.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yes, of course, you just get better at lying, right,
exactly right. Maybe we should have tried therapy.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
No, yeah right, oh good lord, Like, let's discuss all
the ways a twenty three year old man is not
right for you. Yeah, talk about this. Maybe we talk
about the fact that there's no fucking way he's a
three hundred year old vamp. Yeah, where Wolf?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Where Wolf? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Maybe we go that you know that angle and go Yeah,
you do not see how ridiculous he sounds. Where's our honor? Roles?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah? I think just just grounding her is gonna. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
So Jeremy was they're urious with Jasmine's parents for trying
to keep them apart because he had become obsessed with her.
Now and I also think Jasmine was obsessed with him
in a way. Yeah you know first yeah, twelve year old?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh god, yeah, totally, totally. This was my one love, Juliettish.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, and I think you're right. I think he was
twenty three, but like about twelve thirteen from his brain
development because he was obsessed with her. This is like
his this is how he breathes, right.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Oh yeah, it's the tension.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
So on his blog, oh no, he wrote a post
or a poem, depending on how you want to look
at it called He entitled it payment Oh my lover's
rents And I'm not kidding. I mean like apostrophe r
e nts my parents rents. Okay, I'm sorry, Oh I'm sorry.

(22:41):
My lover's rents are totally unfair. They don't know what's
going on and just assume she is slowly going insane.
Oh no, she continues to think that I came. I
assume it means like came into her life. Like, okay,
she's thankfully right. Okay, their throats I want to slits.
They shall pay for their insolence. Finally, there shall be silence.

(23:06):
Their blood shall be payment.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Wow. But that word infolunce is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
For you, you know, considering that he misspelled subtle. I was
a little impressed with that too. I will say that.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I just looked to that one up.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I okay, so maybe he started using like a physaurus online.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
He was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
In there. Right on the morning of Sunday, April twenty third,
two thousand and six, it's a Sunday morning, one of
eight year old Tyler's friends knocked on the door of
the Richardson house to see if Tyler could come out
and play. Right, Yeah, it's a Saturday or a Sunday,
since their car was in the driveway, and he was like, well,
it looks like they're home, and they were always home
on Sundays. He peeked into a downstairs window and saw

(23:48):
someone lying on the floor and some blood.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Oh she is okay.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
So he ran home and got his mom and she
followed him back and looked through the window and was like,
oh my god, that looks like a body in blood.
She ran home and called the police. So Lisa I, Deborah,
and Mark Richardson were found on a lower level of
the house. Can't tell if it was a base. Someplaces
said basement. It's like a split level. I have a

(24:13):
picture of the house. It could have just been like
the downstairs level. I'm not sure, but it doesn't matter.
They were in a downstairs area. Both are dead, Both
are covered in blood. Deborah had been stabbed twelve times
in the chest. Mark was stabbed twenty four times chest
and the back, and he had numerous self defense wounds.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
This part.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Their family dog was laying next to Deborah whimpering, come on,
but oh yeah, I don't know what to do. My
mom is my mom's not good break. There was blood
and shoeprints all over the floor, but apparently there was
so much blood that they couldn't even get shoe impressions
because it was just like a hot mess. It was

(25:00):
so thick. It was yeah, and it was it was
just it was chaotic. There were bloody smears and handprints
that led to the upstairs bedrooms.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Oh my god, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Right? Okay, so they carefully go upstairs and in his
bed they found eight year old Tyler. No, he's covered
in blood, along with all of his toys and stuffs
in his room. He had been stabbed five times and
his throat was slit.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
But he didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Maybe ear old boy. Two six inch black knives were
found at the scene. One of them had a bent tip,
which they said showed the force of the stabbing that occurred.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Police were immediately alarmed that Jasmine was nowhere to be found,
and they immediately put out an amber alert because they figured, well,
she must have been abducted.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
The right They thought it was the kidnap.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
However, they started to wonder when they started to search
her room, which apparently had begun as like a pink
and purple room with unicorns all over, and then in
the past year it had more right, and they're like, Okay,
something's you know, something's weird here. Detectives contacted Jasmine's friends
and they went to her school where.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
They start learning about Yeah, Jasmine.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Had undergone a dramatic change over the past year. Police
were given access to her locker, where they found I
have a photo of this. It's very disturbing. A it
was like a comic written on a sheet of paper, okay,
of stick figures, right, stick figures going through And I'm

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going to try to describe this, but I have a
photo that I can post. It depicts a family of
four going for a walk. But then one of the
stick figures veers off and goes over to a truck
that is labeled Jeremy's truck. Okay, to retrieve a tank
of gasoline that they then put into a lawn sprinkler,

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and then the other stick figures are sprayed by the
lawn sprinkler, and then the first stick figure lights a
match and it ends with the original three in flames,
screaming that they're being burned alive.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Whoa I know words. Wow, yeah, she obviously even her
little brother she didn't give a shit about.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
So police are talking to Jasmine's friends and they're like, yeah,
she's dating this werewolf guy named Jeremy.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And they start laughing.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
They're like, we realize this sounds like complete notor bullshit,
But we're being totally serious, right's dating work. They also
mentioned that Jasmine would joke about wanting her parents dead
because of their strict rules. Who jokes about that?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Like, I can see people like kids hate him?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yes, I do remember, Like, you know, I hate you.
I wish you weren't my mom. I wish you were dead,
like in the heat of the moment.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
But like, but not with your friends and discussing it.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
And oh my parents are so lame and they're so mean,
and I remember that they're stifling me, and I wish
I didn't have them say things more like I wish
I didn't have them, or she wouldn't wish harm.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
That's not that I don't remember anybody, No, Like, right,
I remember, you know, my dad's total dick. I can't
wait to move out. That type of thing took her.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Seriously.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
No one is like, right, like, okay, she's just venting exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
But detectives are like, you know, she might not be
so much of a victim as a suspect.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, now that we're finding out a little bit, especially
this cartoon, I mean, huh so Jeremy, who's got Jeremy's truck?

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Wow? That's good clue.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
So again, medicine hat was this quiet, picture perfect town
for families, and so this was big news and it
went national that day, right, which actually was a good thing. Yeah,
And it was reported like they couldn't use her name
because she was under age, but they reported that their
twelve year old daughter and her boyfriend were of interest

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for the police to speak to.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
They just need to find these people. And because of.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
That, police received a tip the next day that the
couple was spotted at a gas station about one hundred
miles away and they were quickly found and arrested. So
within twenty four hours of the murders, they Wow, they
had them in custody.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Did the side of his truck say Jeremy's truck, So
it was like super easy to.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Spot that it is Jeremy's, Jeremy's trucks.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Right, So he had on the license plate, he could
have a vanity plate like the were wolf just three
wolf man, dog Man.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
One hundred, dog Man three hundred.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
God turns out that they had spent the past twenty
four hours hanging out with friends, and although Jasmine and
Jeremy had been laughing and joking about how they had
just killed her family. Oh god, none of them took
them seriously. Everyone's like, people, don't you know Jeremy even

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admitted to one of them or well, they didn't think
it was an admission. They thought he was just being right.
He was like, we gutted them like fish.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Jesus Christ. Right, these idiots too, Like first rule, don't
tell anyone, dumb dumb that's fight club.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Apparently kill club is different.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Kill clubs knew that shit wherever, rub damn it.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
They really didn't take them seriously because both of them
seemed pretty relaxed and happy, okay, and they were about
to travel north to go camping with friends, so that
was the plan like the next day or something, or
that day or something. So like everyone was.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Like, yeah, it just makes me wonder if it's that
juvenile brain, like it doesn't it dissociates somehow, like I
can't see it as a real reality, right, they did.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
And I'm guessing also, well, his well I don't know
if it was his friends or her friends or a
combination of both, but maybe also just being young adults
and stuff. And I don't know the fact that their
friend used to always refer to himself as a three
hundred year old where wolf. They're just like, no, one,
we don't believe anything. He sets to take him seriously. Right,
But once they were in custody, police interviewed the friends.

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We didn't realize that they had been given very specific
and accurate details that matched the crime scene.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Oh cool, perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Police are like, okay, this is this is tracking And they're.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Like what, yeah, so this is real. It happened.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, they were wow, you know, so he is a
three hundred year old were wolf. Wait does that mean
that works reel too? Right? So yeah, and Jeremy's friends
are like, that's exactly what they said. They're like, you know,
he talked about being a three year old were wolf.
Like we just don't. Yeah, and Jeremy, you know, we've
we've known him for years. He's never turned into a

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were wolf on a full moon. So we just assumed
it was bullshit, Like, I don't know he.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Was he hadn't hit that point, kind of like teen wolf.
He hadn't grown to it yet. He know about it, right.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
They also talked about how Jeremy like would constantly say
that he liked the taste of blood and that he
drank it regularly, which was the reason for the vile
around his neck in case he got like a craving
and he needed a hit, you know. And one of
his former roommates actually admitted to watching Jeremy watching him

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cut his own hand to lick the blood. So they're like,
he was a weird, creepy guy.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
But or so we thought, Yeah, we thought he was
until then Jeremy.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Told investigators that Jasmine had begged him to kill her parents. Well,
Jasmine said, oh, no, no, no, this was all Jeremy,
and I was just a bystander, like I hypothesized about
killing my parents because that way we could be together.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
But otherwise I should have been crying and shit and
sad and go like, oh exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
She was like, I didn't expect him to actually do it,
Like we weren't going to do it. It was just tak right.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
So Jeremy, being the brilliant three hundred year old where
wolf that he is, you.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Think he'd learned by now.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Unknowingly confessed to the murders to an undercover cop.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
So he's willing to tell anybody his story.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
So oh yeah, except for the cops. He's right, He's
just talking right. He actually asked the guy if he'd
ever seen the movie Natural Born Killers and went on
to say that he thought it was the best love
story of all time.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
No. Jeremy later went on to say he was like, oh,
I was just bragging in jail because I wanted to
look tough for the other you know people to you know.
It was yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Was just saying that he was bullshitting.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
So okay, for those who don't know, I haven't seen
this movie, and.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I know I have a long time years right exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I did look it up just to make sure I
was getting it right. National Born Killers was in nineteen
ninety four Oliver Stone film starring Woody Harrelson and Juliet
Lewis as two people with traumatic childhoods who became lovers
and then mass murderers who became famous in the media.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Right, Yes, that was a modern Bonnie and Clyde type
of thing.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Exactly, but like on a much more disgusting level.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
It was. It was really good, but yeah, it was
a long line.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, apparently he wrote like the original either the short
story or something, right, because that's why it makes me
think of like pulp fiction ish.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, it's kind of like, can't be somehow exactly horror
as badly because it's kind of laughable but so.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
And also Woody Harrelson's character was significantly older than Juliette Lewis,
because I remember watching it getting yeah, like that's like
a grown man. He's like my age.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
She was like really young at that time, like nineteen twenty.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah. I think in the movie she was supposed to
be even younger than that.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, she always played like younger, Yeah she was, because
she always so young.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
And in the movie, they go to her house and
they murder her parents, but they spare her little brother
that I didn't remember. I vaguely remember the whole house
scene at least grotesque, but save the bro right. But
the night of the murders, Jeremy had watched the movie
with friends, and afterwards he told them this is what

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my girlfriend and I will do, but we won't leave
her little other alive.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Oh my god, and again like okay, all right, yeah,
why take.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
The little boy into account? Leave him alone?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
But also that night, while they were doing watching the
movie and all that, he was high on a mix
of alcohol, pot ecstasy, and cocaine.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Oh my god. Oh yeah, he had take a lane,
choose a lane, don't do them all. Oh yeah, he
had in all the lanes. Wow, yikes.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
So after that he went to the Richardson Richardson's house
where Jasmine snuck him in and he waited in the
basement while she went back upstairs.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
See she was totally involved.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
When Deborah went down to the basement to do laundry,
Jeremy attacked her with with one of the six inch knives.
Jesus Mark heard his wife screaming and ran down to
the basement, but he was too late. Jeremy then turned
the knife on Mark, who tried to fight back with
a screwdriver. Okay, but Jeremy.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Like, he didn't even get Jeremy at all.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I guess Jeremy had. I read somewhere that Jeremy had
a blood black eye the next day, but again that
didn't FaZe anybody because he was known to get into
trouble and cause fights and be kind of an ass
and you know, so no, everyone's like, oh, Jerry's got
a black eye again.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, somebody was sick. It was bullshit.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
But according to Jeremy, as Mark was dying, he was
able to mutter out the word why, and Jeremy replied,
because your daughter wanted it that way. So this is
where what happened next differs. According to Jeremy, Jasmine went

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into Tyler's room while he was sleeping and killed her.
But according to Jasmine, Jeremy forced her to stab Tyler.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I don't believe anything she says.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I know, and she did a poor job. So Jeremy
slid his throat. That's what she said.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
That poor baby holf horrifying last moment.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
This is also a little weird. I don't totally understand it.
But Jeremy then left the house. Jasmine stayed behind in
the house with her dead family for I'm not sure
how much time an hour. I don't know, like a
portion more than ten seconds, okay, because to me, anything
longer than that is psychotic.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Then she went to a convenience store to get cash
and then took a cab to Jeremy's trailer before they
headed out to get something to eat and hang with fronts.
Oh my god, maybe she had to take a shower,
get all the Oh yeah, she probably had to clean up, right,
because I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
She was a bit of a mess, christ right, and
just to go let's go eat.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Let's get a burger. I'm hungry. That was hard, and
then let's go see friends.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I'm starving now. So while they were awaiting trial, the
couple sent letters to one another. They were allowed to,
I assume because the police were like, let's see.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
What they say to each other, get more info.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Unfortunately, what they did say to each other was that
Jeremy asked her to marry him, and she said yes.
So they get up puppies, puppies, little werewolf babies, little babies.
So each of them was charged with three counts of murder.
Because Jasmine was under age, they hadn't be tried separately.

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Her trial began first in June of two thousand and seven,
where she pled not guilty. Her defense was that she
was a young, impressionable girl who got mixed up with
an older man and when her parents tried to stop
the relationship, she got angry and wished that they were dead,
but she didn't actually mean it, and she had no

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idea that Jeremy was going to take her seriously and
actually harmless.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Okay, that all sounded real until the last part where
she she didn't know she was.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
A total innocercizator part of this, Okay, But the prosecution
argued that Jasmine was an active participants and the planning
and the acting out.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Of the murders.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
And they had a lot of evidence.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Okay, okay, that cartoon, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
They presented tons of communication between the two online. Oh
by the way, they never brought up the fact that
he was a werewolf. They just kind of let that out.
They were like they had enough.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
They are like, we're good.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
It was like inflammatory. I'm like, yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah. I mean he brought it on it. He's saying
it about himself. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
So they had all their online communication and it didn't
sound like your typical preteen angry with her parents type
of stuff. One conversation that they had, it says, runaway
Devil says, I miss you more than killing people? Are
there others? What are you talking about? How many something
to do?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
This is like, oh how romantic?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
It says, I miss you more than killing people? Can
we get together and kill people? Raw? And then r
A w R hugh rre. I hate them? So I
have this plan and it begins with me killing them
and it ends with me living with you.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, yep, artist right.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
That soul eater responded with, well, I love your plan,
but we need to get a little more creative with
like details and stuff. I know they're kind of idiots.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Okay, yeah, all right, good job.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
So the jury, the jury was shown fifteen hundred photos
of the violence and bloody crime scene. Oh, just to
show exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Wow, how depraved it was.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Exactly. So they also wanted to prove the fact that
if she was what she said she was, which was
a bystander, right, one would think she would be very
upset and traumatized, right, that she just watched her boyfriend
slaughter her friends. Right, But they had the cab driver
testify that Jasmine acted completely normal and was actually chick

(42:07):
full when he picked her.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Oh she's chipper. My life's some much easier now.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Exactly right. And they had witnesses that testified to seeing
them in a restaurant just hours after the murder where
they were cuddling and kissing. So look, how set and
mortified was she?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah, I don't think she was too worried about that.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Then had her own friends, her own friends testified how
Jasmine was acting right after the murders like the ones
that they hung out with, and how she told them
how her little brother had been making a gurgling sound
as he died, which they said, based on his autopsy,
would have been accurate. Oh, and that she said it

(42:50):
would have been cruel to leave Tyler alive without parents. Oh,
this was a mercy killing. Yeah, she thinks the big
sister that he looked up too.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, what did what? I'm sorry, that's shitty, shitty. Where
the brilliant soul? I guess the.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Exactly being the brilliant twelve year old that she was.
She took the stand in her own for defense.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Oh no, why did they allow her to do that?
Even think I don't know they wouldn't even allow that.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Maybe they were just like, you know what, we're sunk.
It doesn't matter, you can't.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I don't make it any worse. She said.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
She blamed herself for the murders because she had told
Jeremy she wanted them dead. She told the jury that
she tried to comfort Tyler as they heard their parents
being murdered. This is what she said in court. She
told the jury that she had gotten a knife, the
other knife that was there to protect herself, and Jeremy
from herself, and Tyler.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
From Jerry from Jeremy, right, right, But.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Then Jeremy came in the bedroom and he demanded that
she stab her brother, and she did, and then Jeremy
slit his throat to ensure he was dead.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Oh that's so disturbing.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
How but his autopsy also showed that it looked like
he had been strangled first, or attempted to be strangled,
So I think it's more likely that she went into
his room while he was sleeping and tried to strangle
and then when that didn't work.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Oh my god, that's so cruel. I can't even imagine
being it'steresting at any age, but especially at that age.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Right. She was angry, Okay, not that it justifies it.
She was angry at her parents. She had no beef
with her little brain.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Who got to do with it? Just when she took out, right,
I'm wondering if she just wanted to look cool too
Jeremy and tough and like, okay, I can do this,
what a fucking mitch.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Okay. So, Jasmine Richardson was found guilty of three counts
of first degree murder. Okay, good, And when she was
found guilty. By this time, she was thirteen. That made
her the youngest person to be confid of multiple murders
in Canada. Whoa, which is how I found the story
because I was trying to look up eighteen year old

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murderers and I found her.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
And I went, oh freaking Christ.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Plus it had a whole were wolf angle to it.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I mean, you can't not have a werewolf in gotta.
I mean, you can't resist that.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, I gotta do this story. Okay, So since she
was Canadian law is slightly different, since she was under
the age of fourteen when she committed the crime, and
she could not be sentenced as an adult, so she
was given the maximum sentence allowed, which was ten years.
Oh it gets worse. Okay, only six of those would

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be served in prison, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
And she was.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Given credit for the eighteen months she had been in
custody since her arrest. So after the six years in
prison minus the eighteen months, she would be transferred to
a psychiatric psychiatric institution for rehabilitation. Okay, four years good,
And then after that four years she would have four

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and a half years of supervised living.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Oh my god. Well, I'm glad at least they could
like cite therapy, like really big therapy. I wish that
I still am, like really but still that's so very little.
So does that mean she's out?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (46:23):
That was oh god? Oh okay, we'll get to that, okay,
all right.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
So but first it was Jeremy's trial.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Oh god, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
He was tried as an adult because despite his thirteen
year old brain age, his three year old he's somewhere
between twenty three and three hundred, so he's definitely an adult.
So his defense, oh god. His defense was that he
was a weak willed, immature man with low self esteem
due to two years of abuse during childhood. No one's

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gonna argue that. Yeah, all true, but I know a
very people who lived that way who did not become
were wolves.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
All right. I know a lot of men babies, and
they are not right.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
But because of that, his defense was that he was
desperate for affection and he would have done anything to
keep Jasmine. Okay, and even his friends testified in court
that yeah, he would have done anything for her.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Still, let's you still have a choice, your choice to say, yeah,
that's not going to help anybody.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
He took the stand in his own defense as well,
because why not. Why not?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
I'm aware, Wolf, I know how to talk to people.
It's been three hundred years.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
He testified that Jasmine controlled him and that he thought
she was much older than twelve. That's okay, she thought
you were much older than twenty three. Yeah, whatever, He
thought she was much older than twelve. So she was
like this manipulative her.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Mind, mastermind because right at twelve, of course you can
get to that point.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
He said that this is what he testified to on
the night of the murders. He was high, as we know.
He had a whole MeMail.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yeah, you did everything that night.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
And he had not intended to kill anyone. He thought
he was going over to the Richardson house to help
Jasmine sneak out so that they could run off together.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Right, So he stayed in the basement with a knife.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I don't know while she gathered that, I don't know.
She let him in. He stayed in the basement. He
said he honestly could only recall stabbing Deborah once in
the stomach, and that he vaguely remembered defending himself against Mark,
but that was it. Everything else from that, that whole night.

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He had no memory of what's all right?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
We don't believe you. Wow, okay, so.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I know it's going to shock you. But it was
found guilty. Oh what Yeah, he was given the maximum
sentence as an adult, which was three life terms. Oh good,
with eligibility for parole only after a minimum of twenty
five years.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Okay, good, So he.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Should have got no but no, but he's that's in there.
He's in there, right, So he's done. And apparently after
that and because of the prison and all that, so
they had lost contact with each other. They're not in
contact with.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Good Bank Goodness. Doesn't seem like they should be around
each other. That was a best combination.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
In the fall of twenty eleven, Jasmine was released from
the psychiatric institution. It was reported that she had finally
shown remorse and responsibility for her actions, and that she
was basically the poster child for rehabilitation.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Right, because she did learn how to fake it really well.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Bet I mean while under supervised living. Because remember then
she was left there and then she was just like supervised. Right.
She was given a new identity so that no one
had no right and she actually began attending classes at
Mount Royal University in Calgary, so she wants to get
a college education too. In May of twenty sixteen, her

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supervision was complete after a final sentence review. They said
that since she had stayed out of trouble for five
years after her release, her record was plunged, meaning there
is no record of her club, of her crime on
her personal record anymore. She's clean, She's done.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Okay. That was in May of twenty sixteen. Her parents
were killed in two thousand and six, so ten years
after slaughtering her family, she's out just out there free
with a new identity, college education.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Who knows which?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
What? Whoa?

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yikes? You don't just do that and become Okay.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Her wearmouths are now completely unknown.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I hope the therapy really did erase all that. I
don't know if it could.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
But holy balls, the other thing that I heard I
wasn't even gonna put in the story because I found
it so disgusting.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
The judge even said that she had done such a
good job of rehabilitating herself that he said something along
the lines up it was so disgusting, I think your
parents and your brother would be.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
That shit in there. No that's bad.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
That was nauseating bad.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Do you think you would be prepping for But they
can't be here to tell you ken they because she
killed them? So wow huh.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
So completely against the fact that she just free and
ready to go and yeah, yeah, she doesn't even have
to live a life up right, difficulty getting a job
because any name because because her name's gone and her
record was that sealed xpunge God.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
It's not okay, there should be some like, yeah, now
you've got to deal with consequences for the rest of
your life of having to live with this name that
you built for yourself exactly. She doesn't even have to
have that. Guess to kill you when you should go
to Canada?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I guess so anyway, but you gotta do it before
you're fourteen.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, which, yeah, then you're yeah psychoed from life. But
good right, good story. Where'd you find all this?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Okay? So it was hard for me to find actual articles.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah, because made on her credit for her whole thing
expunged right.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Past exactly, and a lot of the articles that came
out before that was all under like JR or something
because her name because she was under age. I had
a hard time finding specific articles. But I watched an
episode of Coffeehouse Crime on YouTube called the twelve year
Old who Became a triple Murderer the Richardson Family. There

(52:42):
was an episode on I fought a lot of stuff
on YouTube because I got tired of trying to find articles.
I know they all kind of said the same thing.
It was like a whole bunch of articles, but I'm like,
this is the same shit. There was an episode from
Under the Ash Tree on YouTube called the Murder of
the Richardson Family. Okay, an episode from the Crime Reel
on YouTube called all of Your Old Murderer Jasmine Richardson.

(53:02):
And then I got some specific dates and things from
all That's Interesting dot com. And then I filled in
the gaps with Wikipedia looking up stuff for medicine hat.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, all the different level things.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah, that kind of Oh that's raw specifics on her
sentencing and all that. I can't believe she got away
with it, basically, seriously, seriously.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
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