Behind the scenes w/ Marcus McIntosh & Kyle Ament

As the network continues to expand and new faces join let's welcome Marcus McIntosh and our return guest Kyle Ament!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:07):
The whole point is to share on here.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. Embarrass the out of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Keep the conversation. You know, the rain in the post,
and you're doing your friend job on what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Welcome back to JG's Lounge. I'm your host Jukebox, and
we are back with another episode to start, you know
with me. Today, we've got a return guest, Kyle mat
I'm gonna give you a moment here in a second,
but we got Marcus Macintosh. He's a new face here
on the network. Man, how you doing all right?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Man, appreciate it, happy to be here, Thanks for opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, man, yeah, it's it's going to meet you finally.
I've heard a little bit about you, some good things
from Kyle, so I'm excited for this next hour to
kind of get to know you and some of the
stuff you guys have done together and separately. Sweet sweet Kyle,
how you doing.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hey, you doing well? Good to be back. I go
from never doing podcasts to doing multiple podcasting.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Right, yeah, I mean since the first episode. You've been
you know, in touch with me practically every day and
even offering to help me kind of update my IMDb
and all that stuff, which honestly, I didn't even think
about using IMDb as a platform for the shows to
kind of help give everybody exposure. So I appreciate that,
No problem, no problem. And yes, people, you don't need

(02:31):
a pro account to actually upload things. I did not
know that. You just don't get to show you a picture.
That's all that, which I don't like that. How much
does it cost for an annual subscription on IMDb?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I think, yeah, I think it's like one hundred and
forty nine or one hundred and ninety nine a year.
I actually can't remember.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, yes, it's not terrible when you break it down.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, I can do like nineteen dollars a month. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh, you can break it down to monthly payments too.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, because uh, like mine is through Amazon. My my
accounts actually through Amazon. I was just touching my Amazon.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
So oh, I didn't know you could even do that.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, all right, that's good to know.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
All right, well, let's get into the show.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
You know Marcus Man, how what what's some of your
like background in the film industry, because when I was
looking at your IMDb, it looks like you actually kind
of go back a little bit further than Kyle as
far as some of the stuff you've done.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah. So I started in stage stage theater.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
So my very first production I did was The Boys
next Door in Springfield, Missouri. I was at the little
theater down there, and man, I just caught the bug. Man,
it was just it was it was like that little
family that you have away from home and like, yeah,
I would just hit the ground running from there.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And how old were you? What do you when you
did that?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
What that was?

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Oh? Eight?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
So what.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
I'm bad?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I guess sometimes I got this right. And this is
this is the furthest back this shows is the Broken Faith.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yes, so Broken Faith. We filmed in Springfild, Missouri too.
That was a faith based film. A gentleman by the
name of a comedian I cannot think of his name
save my wife right now. I was basically I was
an extro a part of that. So but that was
really fine.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I mean that's exciting, dude. I mean it's it's
is this something that you do as a profession or
do you have like another job.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I have a full time job.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
I'm I'm slowly trying to transition over to doing it
full time, but I still got bis of paid man,
So I.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Know that's that's like me doing this. You know, I
got a full time jab, I got kids, my wife.
It's like if I ain't appeasing them, that this is
just you know, on the side burners, right right, Kyle Man.
You know, we never really talked. I don't think we
ever really talked on either one of those shows about
like how far back your filming goes. I know it

(05:14):
doesn't go super far back, but what's the first thing
that you did.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
The first thing that I did was I was an
extra in Dallas. I lived in Dallas, and while I
was there, my wife and I were learning Spanish, which
don't try to speak me in Spanish and moved away
from Dallas. No, but we were. We were learning Spanish,
and the Spanish instructor was from Peru and he was

(05:42):
on Queen of the South as an extra. Oh, he
wanted people that were Hispanic to be like at a
bar scene in different things, so he like, he did that,
and I did what was it called? They changed the
name of it hooking up, hooking Up, That's what it was,

(06:02):
and they changed the name of it. And so I
went in and I was just in the background of
a gym scene. It's the guy from Veep was in it,
Vivian Fox. There were like a whole bunch of people
that were in it, and I was just in the
background working out.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
So did you just go do you actually live down
there at one point?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I lived there at that point, so yeah. So then
and then I was in like a couple other things
as extras, and then I did a couple of like
university short films like for people's senior Thesis. I probably
did like three of those twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen.
And then I got on Lone Star Justice as a background.

(06:51):
It's a ID network thing. They went there was some
town and they looked at crime that was solved and
like biggest crimes, like in I don't want to name
the city, but I want to say Tyler, Texas all
that name it. It was something like that. I'm off
on the name of the city, but some town of
like one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand people maybe,

(07:12):
and I was a crime scene investigator. So they show
me like very low skilled work, like looking at bullet
holes and looking at They put dishwas or not dishwasher
clothing detergent all over this car and when you shine
the black light on it, it shows up the same

(07:34):
as you know, blood or whatever. We go up. Yeah,
and so they rubbed it all over the car and
then they had us practice it and I wore a
cowboy hat, so it was all good. Yeah, and so yeah,
that's kind of that's what I did at first, and
oh I had an interest in doing more. That was

(07:56):
just like Marcus. But Marcus actually he actually had a
with speaking and all that.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
What character in that stage play was it was I
don't know, if you're familiar with the Boys next Door man,
it was it wasn't your average conversation with people, Like
I would just blurt stuff out randomly doing the whole
during the whole set. So it was just it was
it was very very trying, but it was it was

(08:25):
a lot of fun though, Like I could just let loisten.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
So yeah, that's something thought. That's really how he was.
He told me, like, uh, where they they thought that
that he really was like that and like where other
people thought other things but they thought that that was him, Like,
don't make fun of him, that's really him, you know.
I thought that's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
That is cool. And then one thing about Texas that
I do know is that they have something called south
By Southwest. Oh, sure, you're probably familiar with that. That's yeah,
it's like film and music.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Kind of thing. It's a real big festival.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, and I'm I mean here in town, a lot
of people don't even know about it, which is surprising.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, it's one of the big ones. I mean, I
think like if you look at in North America the
top four or five festivals, it's one of those that
Toronto is huge, I know. Yeah, Rhode Island Wholsome Grove
was submitted but didn't get accepted into Rhode Island. That's
a huge one as well. Like I don't know if
people know that, but that's like that's one of those

(09:28):
top five or ten as well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
So have you guys ever done anything? You kind of
talked about doing the whole thing on the car, but
have either of you had roles besides you just cast,
like where you do stuff behind the scenes during other
scenes or do you just do the casting?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I mean I've helped out behind the scenes before. Just
on says that I've I've worked on, but other than
just being cast as just like the crew, No, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
I'm usually part of the main cast and stuff, so
I've done a little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I've done a little bit of behind the scenes stuff.
I'm like, like usually it's like a day. One time,
I helped out a lot more on strange toys than
I ever had, and I drove somebody around who was
from Los Angeles and I was in it as well.
I was in scenes with the person, but I drove
him around for like several days, went out to eat

(10:30):
with him every breakfast, all that kind of stuff just
kind of make him feel comfortable basically what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
No, sorry, that sounds fun. I do want to talk
a little bit about this because I know you both
play in this one. Yes, I actually so. I went
on Amazon and found this. I did pay for the
first episode, so I'm probably gonna watch the rest of it.
I didn't even finish the first episode because I had

(10:56):
to come to the show. I woke up this morning,
I was like, I wonder if I get I'm the
Dead Legion. Uh, And I did. I found it. It's
it's on Amazon Prime if anybody wants to check it out.
It's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
How what was your experience like doing this?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
It was it was extremely fun, extremely taxing because it
it took a while, but it was extremely fun, extremely fun.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean, uh.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Uh for the people that we work with, like Nathan
and Sydney, wonderful there. For what they can do with
this little with with as little to work with is amazing. Man,
Like they they they give a lot of big names
or run for their money.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I'll just like that.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, I agree, wonderful.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean that's like they.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I mean, there's he's been working on this for for years.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Nathan has like wrote it and then she helped him
rewrite it, and then they put it together. And I
just think that together they can do about anything film
related about pretty spectacular. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Is there is there a difference between as far as
like setup goes and shooting the scenes from doing a
film to doing an actual series.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I view the time commitment. Yeah, I filmed over twenty days.
I'm in the first nine. He's in all fifteen. As usual,
Marcus just doesn't doesn't want to like like rub my
nose and it he just he just he just wants
to push me aside for the last episode whatever.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Never never, Wait, this is the one that we me
and him have a lot of scenes in, and so
like we really play off each other and so like,
I feel like that's really where we bonded at a
lot of the time.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
So, yeah, it was from Dead Legion.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Mm hmm. Yeah, you guys. It's like I said, I
still have a lot to watch and I'm gonna watch it.
But doing a zombie film, I mean, I feel like
trying to to play that role knowing that they're just
actors and actresses, is it difficult to kind of get
into that mindset that they're actually zombies.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
No, I mean, I mean, yeah, the idea is kind
of far fetched, but I mean the fears, I mean,
is wanting the same you know, it's just embodying something
that you are really fearful of a lot of the time.
You know, just it's just dropping yourself into those into
those emotional spaces so you can give a good performance.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
M hm. And just sitting here talking to you guys,
neither one of you kind of come off as a bad,
tough guy. But in the series. You guys are you
guys are killing it.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I appreciate that. Yeah, Marcus is kind of the hero,
and I'm kind of the person who likes to disagree
with him in the series. So yeah, that's kind of funny.
It's funny. I think it's actually like running and shooting
zombies and stuff. It's so silly, but it's really fun
and it made a good show. And that's actually I

(14:05):
have I have had people tell me that the you know,
like when I die, it like actually it was like
really sad and like, so that's been nice.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
You said that was episode nine.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, yeahs look forward to Yeah, episode nine, I actually die.
So yeah, there's fifteen episodes. Fourteen are out. There's still
I don't know where the when the fifteenth one will
come out, but hopefully soon.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Okay, is there any like, is there any particular spots
during the shooting that that is very memorable to you
guys like that, whether it was like meeting up with
a crew behind after the show, or something just stupid
happened with like the props or something.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Well, for me, we were shooting at what at the
elementary school Saint Joe, and I was it was it
was extremely cold, and we obviously you can see in
the scenes where I'm always wearing like a cut off
sleeve shirt and stuff like that. And then and I
was in so much pain because I guess I had COVID.

(15:14):
I knew I found out later on after that day.
He because I just so much So, like you know,
seeing seeing those scenes from that from that day.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I was like, wow, Okay, I really I really played
it off. I wouldn't know I was sick, but I was.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Those things.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's just kind of funny to me.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, it was cold out that day, so like I
went and got in this car with him because we
were both warming up in his car, and he's going
like this, it's leaning back, his eyes shut, like he's
so miserably. I thought, man, he's really cold and tired.
You know. I'll actually actually I'll answer your question too.
Like my uh, my favorite day filming had nothing to
do with filming. We went to these like we filmed

(15:59):
a lot of outside scenes. It's supposed to be wandering
around like just like that picture you saw was at
cemetery in Saint Joe and we were out in the
woods south of Saint Joe, like kind of on the
way to Kansas City for a lot of days. And
when we were there one time they brought hot dogs,
which I don't even love hot dogs, but they brought

(16:20):
hot dogs and marshmallows, if I remember right. And I
was smoking a cigar and I gave someone else's cigar
and there's a fire and it was like really fun.
It was like playing around and uh, I like to
waste time. So it actually fit.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So that was all shot in Saint Joseph. That's not
far from here.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Big Chunk. Yeah. Yeah, it was in Casey k and
Doganoxy and and I can't remember where that uh park, Yeah,
that was somewhere south of Saint Joe, But I don't
remember where.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Do they do they have to get like do you
know how they actually get in contact or should get
the approval to shoot in certain locations?

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Well, the funny part is about dead legions a lot.
They knew a lot of people already, but you know,
obviously living there and everything. They I'm losing my train
of thought. They had already talked to a lot of
people about their project, and so they was able to

(17:26):
get there, okay, at a lot of different places, like
one of the like at the pool scene. I think
they were getting ready to close it down, and so
like they gave them the okay to even shoot there
in the beginning. As far as like at the community
center and stuff like that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
For like a day or two. They could film a
day or two. So we filmed scene from fourth or
fifth episode, whatever was going to be there. We filmed
it the very first day of filming. Is this exciting
action stuff?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, it's gonna say. They probably kind of mix it up,
like it's not it doesn't go in order when you're
actually shooting. It's not in order, correct? Is that pretty
much everything?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, I've never shot anything in order. The one thing
that I was supposed to be in that was supposed
to be in order right away, people couldn't make it
or like I mean, you can't do it. Like, let's
say you got something where you're going to have a
scene in the beginning and a scene in the middle,
and you have to rent a space, whether it's two

(18:25):
hundred dollars, five hundred dollars, whatever it is, you have
to rent this space. You don't want to rent it
twice just so you can film an order. You're going
to rent it once. And so I just viewed as
it's virtually impossible. I'm sure you could. I'm sure there's
if you're in the same site and everybody's available at
the same time, I'm sure you could do it. But
I've never experienced it.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
No, no, never.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Now I do know, Kyle, you have Wholesome Grove Is
out on several of the platforms. I've seen that. Marcus,
do you. I'm guessing you probably have quite a few
things out on some of the platforms as well.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I have uh TN T Jackson, which I did with I.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Was gonna say I saw both of you on the credits,
but then when I look at it, it's hard to
find you even on the list, but it just shows up.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Tn T.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Jackson's on to be uh Clemency Boulevard. Uh that's a
short that I did with the Nick Woods. You can
find that on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I do have to say that this is a pretty
funny cover.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah T Jackson, that's good.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
And there's and the funny part is, like.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
You know, when Todd first brought it to us about
about TNT Jackson, he said, he said, yeah, man, it's
gonna be like a seventies eighties like retro crime Show
and then like I didn't know that there was actually
a tn T. Jackson from that time because it's like
if you go to to be there is another one
and it's literally and it's so and it's so like

(20:07):
that seventies, you know, nostalgia of like you job turkey,
how pity the food?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know, Yes, to get into that, to get into
that mindset, though, did you have to do research and
like watch some stuff before you got into that acting?

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
The funny part is like my mom and my dad
they kind of.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Always they always watch those types of shows, and so
like it was easy for me to kind of like
imitate that stuff and we always joke about it and everything,
and like my family actually loves that show, and it's just.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Like man, it's just it's like black black exploration films.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
My family.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'm just like, yeah, okay, that's good.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
But it was a lot of fun. It was a
lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I tell you, like, if you want to know
if I like Marcuts or not, that's just how many
people other than like relatives have pictures of people that
are their friends in their house look right there, right there,
he is right up there.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Just.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, along with wholesome girls and the best day, the
best day of our lives. That there, that's also on
on to be as well.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, the best day of your life was twenty nineteen,
and I'm in the last half of it and I'm
I'm really proud of it.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
And is that the only the pastor?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm the pastor and I'm making somebody get married. And
I like it because I had some freedom and like
some little actions that basically, if you let me be obnoxious,
I can be really obnoxious. And like the Starfish speech,
he let me kind of just said ad lib sermon

(21:56):
and I had lived several minutes sermon and it made
it in the movie. And then like there's water and
he says, go ahead, and you know, like put your
hands in the water, like you're like the holy water.
So every time I do it, I put my hand
in the Holy water and I go.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I know you guys both did this one as well
together and it's not is this not out yet? So
I can't find it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Uh, it's on YouTube. It's YouTube series only. I was
in four episodes in the first season, Marcus should have
one up me a little bit. How many I think
I was in?

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I think I was in either four or five.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, Okay, So what's the story behind this one? I mean,
there's that little brief description there, But do you guys.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Know this is really kind of like another crime drama.
You know, it's basically about a young lady. Uh, just
kind of trouble past kind I mean, just kind of
like the inner workings of inner city life. And to
tell them the term was that people go through and
some of the baggage that people have and situations they

(23:08):
can get into.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's really really the gist of it. It's kind of
based off a true story to a degree.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
So okay, but I feel like based off true stories,
like when you see that or hear it, usually when
you dig into it, it's a very small amount of
it is actually based off true events.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, I mean, it touches and go.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Obviously it's it's entertaining, it's entertainment, so they kind of
hype some situations up a lot more than what it
actually probably went actually went down. So but for the
for the premise of it, it's it's kind of follows
somebody's life.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, I play a doctor in it, and so like
I'm where it's the same, I'm the same doctor, and
I tell them about their daughter and then I'm in
the emergency room telling people like trying to save people,
telling people that they passed all of that.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
So it was my role, Marcus is I'm the bad guy, Like, yeah,
I'm like a womanizer and uh, I'm just I'm kind
of I'm I'm kind of a piece of piece of
crap man.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Just just to be honest.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
That sounds like a role that Kyle should be doing. Yeah,
that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
What I think, That's what I think.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
So yeah, I mean like it's I mean, it was fun,
you know. Matter of fact, he Kyle's the one that
brought me on to it. He was like, you need
to get parties, okay, And I just showed up one
day that it's like.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Hey, we want you.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
You know, I'm just like, oh my goodness, here we go.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now, have you guys been spotted out in public by
somebody that recognized you from one of your shows that
you didn't know.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Not out in public, but through.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Through family they had I have as a matter of fact,
one of my daughter's friends they were watching something are
they seen a picture of me?

Speaker 4 (25:09):
And the it's like, who is that?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
That was?

Speaker 4 (25:12):
It was like, that's that's my dad. That's your dad.
Is he he's on this isn't he? It's yeah, Oh
my god, yes, your dad's acting. It was just it
was not real to me, but it was kind of
funny and it was it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
So that's good. That's really good.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
However, you Kyle, you know, I basically the true answer
is no. But I have had people like, when they
know that I'm in something that I already know, watch
it and talk to me about it, you know, I mean,
just it's stuff like that. But I would say I
haven't had the big breakthrough thing that I'm kind of

(25:55):
thinking like Wholsom Grove actually was an excellent story, won
a lot of awards. There's probably people out there that
have seen it. My dad's fascinated by the fact that
in Springfield, Missouri, you can click on something made in
Kansas City and watch it and and like even Dead
Legion in the beginning he was talking about all the
thousands of people that had watched it or bought episodes. Uh,

(26:19):
and so there's people out there who probably would, but I.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Story but yeah, no, no, no, it's good. And actually
the reason I bring it up is because podcasting and
in a sense has that same kind of vibe. Like
I've on a lot of Facebook groups like oh, you
know whatever, podcasting, Film and Industry and some other comedy
ones because I do a lot of comedy stuff on
here as well. And I was at work one day

(26:46):
and oh, you're juke box Ginger and I was like, yeah,
that's me, and it's it's because he was on one
of the groups. He's another podcaster here in town. But
it's just that feeling of like, oh, man, so he
knows me.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, well actually in that respect, like the like actors,
I mean, I can't say I know every actor in
Kansas City, but honestly, I have worked with over twenty
five directors. And I'm getting ready to do my fiftieth thing,
you know, coming up soon. It's an advertisement. I'm driving

(27:19):
to Saint Louis for it. But yeah, but there's I'll
be doing my fiftieth thing. But most of my stuff's
been done in Kansas City. And when you get with
one group and you go on maybe you know one person,
and there's ten other people you meet, and then you
go to the next thing and you recognize one or
two people, and there's fifteen other people you meet. And
you do that for years and years and years. You

(27:40):
really do get to know like and so I've met people.
I was at a film festival in Levenworth, Kansas say,
it's the same film Holsenbrow, which was then in Kansas
City festival. When I was in Levenworth, like, I recognized
actors and directors from Kansas City that I'd never worked with.

(28:00):
And a lady there recognized me and said, I know
you and all this, and we talked and stuff. I
knew her too, I'd seen her in a play as
well as in a movie, you know, because it's like
it's I mean, it's a kind of a small world.
I mean, there's you know, there might be thousands of
people who say they're doing it in in the Kansas
City area, but it's the same four or five hundred

(28:22):
that are really doing it over and over and over, right,
And I would say, Marcus and I are two of those.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I gotta say, one of the most one of the
biggest name people that I've had on which I've said
Larry hank and the older guy that played on Friends
and he was on Breaking Bad. One thing he told
me about acting is is that for him, he's like
being an older guy, it's harder to get roles. But
I don't know if that's accurate or not.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
I have to ask somebody who's old.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I guess, yeah, I know, well, well you're talking about
a seventy year old guy, eighty year old guy here,
so oh yeah, yeah. But and he's he's one of
those like people it's like I know your face, but
I don't know your name kind of actor.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, And I know I said,
I've done a variety of things, like I said I was,
I play a dirty cop and troublesome and it's you
know basically, it's it's sometimes I would play the end
like people are still working at my age. I'm fifty five,

(29:32):
so it's not unusual to see a detective who would
be fifty five years old. So I haven't aged all
the way out yet.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I wasn't referring to either of you, by the way.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I'm just I haven't aged.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
All the way out yet of the working world.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
So yeah, I play a like a dirty cop in
there where I'm I'm rough this guy named Moon Styles
and I'm kind of bullying him and picking on him.
And it's got Megan Hitchcock Smith in it as well
as she's the producer, Maria Leeese doing the movie. He
wrote it and he is directing it. It has a

(30:11):
lot of like people like, like the scenes I've been
in are spectacular. It's Valerie Hannah does this thing where
she's this nice lady and all of a sudden she's
talking about m efforts and killing people.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
And it's absolutely spectacular because she's I don't want to
say her age your guests, but but you know, but
she does it in such a way and she delivers
it so well.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
It's like it's it's honestly like when you see somebody
do a scene so perfect, you think, wow, all these
people here, you know, some people got over one hundred
lines all this, and this person right here nailed it
so well that that's going to be the scene people remember,
you know.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So let's let's kind of shift it from from the
movie side of it to the social media side of it.
Do you guys, well, first off, what is your guys'
thoughts on social media? In general, Do you like it?
Do you not like it?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
I mean I I usually I mostly use it just
to keep in contact with family a lot of the time.
I mean, if I have projects coming up, I mean,
I'll post and everything. But it's it's still kind of
it's still kind of new to me, just because I
don't know the ins and outs of it. A lot
a lot to do to do with promoting myself a
lot of the time, so.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm pretty good at that stuff. Stuff you needed to
help him in now.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Awesome, thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
But yeah, I mean, I usually like to talk to
this guy here, like I'll get on Facebook, I'm messin
you to talk to him a lot of times.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
But other than that, I.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Actually I like social media. I think it could be
used probably more effective than I'm using it. But the
only reason why I have Instagram is because I was
a part of a project Cult of Blood with Robbie
Lopez that should be coming out soon. I was a
part of a project with him, and that's where they
had their groups. Like most most other ones either don't

(32:19):
have any groups at all, send mass emails, but probably
for the majority of places do a Facebook group. Yes,
I said Legion. We got a Facebook group that's dead
to Legion, you know, you know and all that that's
the majority, But this one they chose Instagram because that's
what was the big one for some of the people

(32:40):
in the group. So I got Instagram.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Whatever. I got Instagram. It was right when we were doing.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Table reads for Cult of Blood, because they canceled one
and I got on it with one other person. And
the reason why is because it was in the group
that I couldn't be a part of. So I joined
just to be a part of that group. And recently
I joined. I'm trying to think. I guess there's so

(33:08):
many of them. Yeah, TikTok. I was in TIC. I
had TikTok before, but I just joined TikTok again. I
hadn't been a member for like a year, and all
I did was put in my my reel and four
or five clips. That's all I have on there, just
so if somebody searches my name they can find it.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, I personally I hate social media. Before before I podcast,
before I did podcasts.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I wait, well, how old are you?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I was thirty six, all right, but I mean I
grew up during the whole like you know my high
school years is like the first phone was in middle school,
you know, I remember having a pager and then the phone,
and then like my Space was big and all that stuff.
But I didn't really post anything until I started podcasting.
And the reason I did that is for exposure, and

(34:01):
that's how I kind of built my network and grown
to where I'm at today. And so, I mean, I
really appreciate and I think clips are the biggest way
that I get exposure. You know, I do the shows,
but the reels and the clips that I make for
you guys and and for me are the one giving
me the most exposure. And because I'll post it on Instagram, Facebook,
TikTok x, all that stuff, so and YouTube as well.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Very cool.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
That's a lot of fun. It's it's very useful, and
I think I've learned a lot about editing and stuff
like that just from making clips and doing shows and
stuff like that. So I really enjoy it. Have you
guys been interviewed before other than podcasting about your films?
Anything you've been in? Not me?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
No, no, no, the podcast And I was involved in
another podcast that wasn't one of yours, which is shocking
because I thought you were the podcast mafia here, but no,
so no, just the podcast.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
How do you How do you feel about the podcasting?
Do do you enjoy it? From your experience, I keep doing,
It's true.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
The next show.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I have, I have so many.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Actually, I think it's a it's a fun experience. I mean,
you come on, there's no gotcha, there's your friendly you know.
I just think it's it's been a positive experience. Good.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's good to hear. I appreciate that, Marcus. So, what
do you guys got working on right now? Are you
guys working on anything together? You got anything in the works.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (35:40):
I've finished up the second season of Acne in Ecstasy.
Also we both finished just finished up the Tie Sheets movie,
and right now I'm just I'm kind of just trying
to focus back on, you know, sharping up my tool
my tools set, as far as you know, my abilities,

(36:02):
and just looking out for that next next opportunity.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
If you guys get big roles then and I know
that you each had them, do you have to kind
of give yourself a break between doing other shows to
kind of reset I do, yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Yeah, yeah, definitely don't mean just because of the the
time and effort that you put into it. If you
really put the time and effort into it, you do
need you do need that time to kind of reset yourself,
reset your thoughts, you know, kind of because you can
get you can kind of get lost in a row sometimes.
And I know I did when I did uh uh

(36:37):
my short film uh uh Clemency Boulevard. I mean it
kind of it kind of depicted somebody in my real life,
and so like I pulled from that and it and
it kind of brought me into like a very depressing
type of mindset. So I had to, like, you know,
take some time and be like, okay, all right, all right,
I'm back to the market.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Let's say, let's go.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I know that the fact that you brought that up
is a lot. I feel like a lot of actors
have that have done multiple have that that happened where
like they have they get so into character and it
affects them that they have to kind of.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Reset absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
How about are you, Kyle?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Uh Yeah, I like the time away Honestly, I said,
I know, ie, wholesome growth, holsome growth.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
But it's a grow film though. Wholesome growth is good.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah. Thanks, It had over three hundred and twenty lines,
and then there was added phone call that I had.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
So I mean, like, I like, you can be a
lead and have one hundred and fifty lines.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
This one was very dialogue heavy, and it took so
much preparation time and so much time and effort. It
was the most time and effort I've ever put in
on anything like this. Did eleven days of filming because
they compressed a couple of days because we couldn't go

(37:57):
into this place on They could go in on Sunday,
but they didn't have air conditioning on Sunday. This whole building,
big downtown building, to save money on Sunday turned off
the air conditioning and so we didn't know that until
we got there on a Sunday, and so we compress
some of the filming. It was so much time and effort,

(38:19):
but I mean, I really enjoyed it, but I know
I didn't want to do a project like that again,
just because it was so much memorization and thought, thinking
about the character and all that. So that was the
first part of the question. And what I'm working on now.
The only thing I have. I have like several things

(38:41):
that could come through, but I'm doing an advertisement in
Saint Louis. Okay, but I don't know if I can
say what it is. But it's a Saint Louis advertisement
on Wednesday next week.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
So it's a commercial.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Actually, yeah, it is a commercial. It is a commercial. Yeah,
it's for a company that's based out of Saint Louis,
and I don't know if they're looking to expand. It's
it's the type of business that's, you know, kind of
like Uber starts out and then it goes everywhere. It's
not Uber, but it's kind of like that.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
So there's a lot of things like that.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Noww yeah, yeah, okay, this could be a big thing someday.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
But right, what's the longest you guys have been on
a set, like in a single day. Is there a
day that you guys are there just ridiculously long?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:35):
For me, it was TNT Jackson.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
So I I got there probably around eleven o'clock that morning, right,
and I didn't leave until like three o'clock the next day,
three am the next day. And and but that's not
even that's not even the worst part. Like I didn't
even feelm that day, Like we didn't even get to

(40:00):
my scene.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
And he can.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
He got to me, It's like Mark, because I'm so sorry, man.
He said, we're gonna, we're gonna come back tomorrow. We're
gonna gonna get you in. I was like, all right, man,
it's okay, sorry, you know. And I'm just I'm really
easy going, man. I'm just you know, because uh, you know,
I love the process. I love every every aspect of
of the work that the what it takes to to

(40:25):
make productions and stuff like that. So I don't I
don't ever take that type of stuff series where some
people they can. I've seen people be like, I'm never
working with you again.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Where's you know?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
And it's just like, you know, so, but yeah, and
that is a question that I had for Kyle on
one of the shows, is is there somebody that you've
had to work with that you didn't really like, you
may be clashed with, but you made it work.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
I only had I only had one per like I
pretty much with everybody, Marcus. Yeah, you know, but the
that's why I like Marcus. He and I both go
in and nobody's gonna say, you know, what a jerk?
At least I hope not. But I had I think
I talked about him before. I had one guy who
knew the script very well and wanted everybody to say

(41:08):
their exact words and all that. I just worked him
one day in twenty nineteen, and I found him extremely annoying.
And he's he's one that if I had to work
with too much, I actually would have been I probably
would have been a jerk back. And then it would
have been a thing that it would be like, no,
all right, your lines are this. You said this, which

(41:29):
is okay, but this is what your lines are. I
want to make sure you know what that's your line.
And like there was stuff like that where it's like
that's so unnecessary and so irritating. Like and I just
worked him for a few hours and I thought, I
can't stand that guy. And you know, of god, yeah,
and oh I've never seen him since.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
You know, well that's such like that's such like a
minuscule thing. But it's like I get it because it's
agitated and kind of gets your frustrated.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, And he wasn't. It was like basically he was
like directing the director and all that. I mean, someone
has been around a long time and he's older than me,
and he's probably he's probably right on everything he's saying.
It's just kind of like he doesn't have you know,
he doesn't have the position to do what he's doing.
He's actively a supervisor or director or something and he's

(42:26):
just an actor. But he's like making sure Abe knows
that he knows everything better than them. And yeah, yeah,
And I've had a few twelve hours or more days
as well. And like the Maximilian Group in Overland Park, Kansas,

(42:48):
they they're flat out. I mean that's the expectation that
you're going to be there twelve hours.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Oh well, I mean they tell they tell you ahead
of the time.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Man, it's good too. I mean they feed you well,
they pay the very last day. They like, everything's great
about them. It's just it is a longer day than
most places.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
How about for you, Marcus, anybody that you've ever kind
of maybe butted heads with or quashed with, But you
mean you made it work? No, I.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Can't say that I have. Usually I'm I'm too I'm too.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Submerged into just trying to pull experience from a lot
of the people that I work with a lot of
time net you know, and that goes from crough to
you know, some a feel actor.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
That I'm working with, or even from a director.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
I'm always I'm always just really just asking questions about
you know, just further than myself really, So.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
We have two different approaches when we go on set,
and less we're together than we do the same approach.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Well, that is one thing though, Like when you've worked
with somebody and you go into a new shoot or
a new film or whatever, I at least you guys
know that you have somebody to kind of lean on
during the show.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Hey, I love it if if Marcus and I and
something together, because it's kind of like you got a
safety net, you got someone you can talk to in between,
you got someone you can watch. That's fun to watch
your friend do stuff. And it's I enjoy it. I
enjoy like working with people. I like, I like it.
But you know, I meet everybody. So Marcus more goes in,

(44:21):
doesn't cause any problems, keeps to himself, relaxes, shuts his eyes,
does and I go in and I'm gonna make people
talk to me.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah yeah, well, and you know what, that's kind of
how I am too. I wouldn't say I make them,
but it's like I'm a very approachable person. Yeah, and
you know, like somebody. I've had a lot of people go, well,
how'd you get that person or how did you get
that them? Like because I message them, I just oh,
well what if they say no? Then they say no
or usually especially when especially when you get to the
bigger name actors and actresses, they usually they don't even

(44:53):
open the message. Anyways, you're probably familiar with Jackass. We
man from Jackass. I emailed or messaged him like my
first year doing podcasts, and it took about a year
and a half and he even replied to me, and
I was shocked. But you know, just stuff like that.
It's like if you don't go out there and just
start talking to people that he ain't gonna get guests

(45:15):
on people even don't just come to you.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Right, Yeah, that's good, but no, I like it whenever
I recognize someone on set who is friendly, I know,
you know, and there's a lot of them out there
who like said, I look forward to seeing them and
get excited when I see them. So another guy, I
was sad because I like, basically, you get someone you've
never worked with, you've never been a part of things before.

(45:40):
This guy named Connor and all of a sudden, he
and I are and everything together. And then he moved
to Japan to teach English recently. But yeah, he was
a like some sort of scientist. I don't know if
it's biology or chemistry, Sorry, Connor. He told me, I
just don't remember, but that's what he did, and I would, uh.

(46:02):
And he also did all these movie things on the weekends,
and so he was in I think I saw him
in what was the River Beauty with Robbie Lopez, and
then I saw him on Crampus. He became he came
on Crampus, this little thing naughty he dressed.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah you were dress as Crampas, weren't you?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah? Yeah? And then I was saying in Crampus and
then I went I saw him and uh, some of
the Maximilian stuff, and I know there was something else
I saw him in in between, and so it's kind
of like you get used to seeing anyone like and
I see him. You know, he's like this thirty year old, handsome,
good looking guy who plays like the usually he plays

(46:48):
the jerk boyfriend, because we talked about it, like I
usually played the jerk old man. He plays the jerk
boyfriend or whatever, the jerk father, right, protective father, whatever,
something like that, and we talked about it and I
would even say, so, are you playing the oh what
was it? Reticent? We were both in Reticent together to

(47:09):
with Tanner Smith, and I saw him and I said,
what are you playing? Are you playing the jerk boyfriend?
He's like, oh, no, I'm playing the jerk fraternity hazer
and like, oh, it's the same. So it's like I
actually really liked the guy. And then all of a
sudden he's gone. So yeah, he left to go on
to the adventure, which is really cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
So as we start to wrap this up, I'm curious,
are either of you married or in the relationships?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
No, we are not married to each other.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Obviously, obviously I feel like the vibe between the two
of you would be a little bit different if that
was right. Well, and I asked, because it's like, how
does your spouse feel about you guys doing this stuff?
Or your family?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (48:03):
My family, My family is really really supportive. Like my
mom always tells me, She's like, marcause you always want
to do this. I was like, since when I was
you know, because like I don't I am I'm a
big movie buff. I love watching movies, I love theater
and everything, and so like you know, I've always I mean,
I can remember being a kid and acting stuff out,

(48:26):
you know, just like any kid does you know, now's
your favorite character from a movie or from a TV
show or whatnot?

Speaker 4 (48:33):
You know, so it was you know, So no, my
my family is super supportive.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Ye. My wife she lets me do whatever I want. So,
I mean really like, just like your wife must be
podcasts and stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
So I have a little corner unit in the basement.
That's what I got.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Okay, Okay, So my wife always you know, she's always
supportive and stuff. And both of my daughters, uh love
seeing me in things. And like probably one of my
my biggest things, like the Kansas City Film Festival, Best
Day of Your Life and Wholesome Grove were both there.
Marcus came to the Wholesome Grove with me, which was

(49:13):
wonderful too. But my families go there, they all think
I'm going to blow up eventually, and and it's like, honestly,
it's like Marcus and I have talked about a lot,
it's matching the role. Because you get the role, you
got to be able to match the emotions the words,
everything to the scene, to the person, and you know,

(49:36):
and not everybody can do every role. I can't do
every role. I can't do every role. Some people can.
Some people can do every whatever like these Really.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
What's that being said of? You had to turn down
anything before because of what the role was.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Oh, I've turned down several things.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Oh wow, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, multiple things. Yeah. I don't want to do like honestly,
like I don't want to be a sexual assaulter. I
don't want to be racist. I don't like there's like
certain things or like make fun of people's disabilities or
what like. There's certain things like I do not I
will not do even pretend. I just don't want it

(50:15):
out there.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, yeah, So I've turned down a couple things like that.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And so do you think that some of those kind
of roles are necessary in a film? So even though
that's maybe not something that you wanted to do, but
like there's stuff like Django and you know, there's movies
out there that are yeah, be set that way.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Sure, Yeah you respond if you Yeah, I mean, I
think depending on what the premise of the project is.
I think some of this stuff is is necessary, but
just to have it on my jacket to do, Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
I'll have to. I would. I would definitely have to
turn it down.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
See, I feel like i'd be the same way. I
don't think I could do it.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Yeah, if because like when somebody approaches me about a
role and they kind of I was like, so, okay,
tell me about the character, and they tell me about
the character, and then and if it instantly, if I
feel troubled.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
A lot of times I allthors turn it now.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, that makes sense. So when they approach you, do
they show you the skit or do they just kind
of tell you about it?

Speaker 5 (51:18):
They tell me and they give me kind of kind
of a kind of a juicy part of the dialogue
that kind of so I can kind of have an
idea and I'll be like okay, And a lot of
time sometimes they'll give me the full the full script, so.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Not to just read the character myself. There was there
was one recently, probably the most recent one, and it
was I didn't turn it down. I just did an
audition for it. They I sent in like on backstage
or something, and they sent me a the script to
do the audition, like a page and I read the
thing and and it's just like I don't want to

(51:55):
say what it was, but it was like I was like,
I love being obnoxious, but not of anxious in a
like a perverted way. And yeah, comments he made, we're like,
I'm like, I don't want to do that, yuse. I mean,
you know, it's just not like I looked at it.
I grab my ankles and blah blah blah like this.
I thought, there's no way I do that.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
You know, I've actually had stuff like that where like
I'll reach out to somebody and then they'll be like, okay,
but you can't ask me about these things, and you
can only ask me about these things. And I'm like,
I'm not doing that because that's not the kind of person.
I like, can just sit there and you know, it's
my show. I want to sit here and be calm
and collective with you guys and just have a normal
conversation with the guests. And when I feel like it

(52:40):
has to be scripted or like catered to the guest,
like I can't do that. Like I want to help
you guys, give you guys exposure, but I want to
do it casually. I don't want to be. I want
to I don't want to feel like I'm the one
on the side burner here, you know. So I guess
as we wrap it up here, the last thing I
would like to ask, because this is something that I

(53:02):
do with shows, is when you finish something and the
finished product is out there, do you guys rewatch it
and critique yourselves? I do?

Speaker 4 (53:12):
And I hate that I do because I don't. I
don't ever think I do a good job.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
So and you know, you know, everybody say, Marcus, you're
so hard on yourself and so, but I mean, it's
just I want. I want to put good I want
to put a good product out there. I want to
always put my best foot forward.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
I always want. I just always want to get better,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
So, and I'm I'm I think I'm gonna start taking
a book out of Denzel Washington's uh, page out of
Denzel Washington's book. Like he doesn't watch none of his
stuff after you finished something, he doesn't, he doesn't ever
watch it.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
So I might start doing that just so I don't
be like.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
You know, but yeah, yeah, and then again I I
do it too, so I get it.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
I love watching myself on DV.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Sound yourself in the mirror.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I love looking like, oh man, if I had hair now,
uh you know. I actually I enjoy watching performances. I
laugh when I'm the bad guy, Like I laugh out loud.
I think it's fun. And I do critique myself as well.
So like I do say, why do I do the
same pose three times in the whole movie? Why didn't

(54:25):
I one time do this? Or something that? You know,
like as you watch it and you you see, you know,
you see your mistakes, you know, and that's unfortunate, but
I mean, you see those. But I enjoy it because
it makes me laugh when I am being mean to someone.
Like there's a a guy who's who's in and wholesome

(54:50):
grove with me that I am mean to the whole time,
and I know, I say, stop interrupting me while I'm thinking,
you know, and like stuff where it's like so mean.
I laugh because it's so me because again, like I said,
the guy is is wonderful and so you know, so
I'm doing that as this guy named Justin who's like

(55:12):
absolutely wonderful person. I really like him, and so being
so mean to him makes me laugh because it's so
silly and as soon as the camera went off, which
probably is not good for standing character, but this guy
and I were the same on that we didn't really
have to be in character. As soon as the camera stopped,

(55:33):
he would tell me off for me telling like in
real life, like because.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
I told him off.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
And actually really is a funny guy. He just plays
in town as well, and it's all of his plays.
But he would Yeah, he did that funny, that's funny. Yeah, Jeremy,
I said, Jeremy Walters. Jeremy Walters, Yeah, where he would
he would tell me off as soon as the camera
went off. It's seth.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Well, yes, we hit about that hour mark. So yeah,
and I appreciate both of you guys coming on. Is
there anything that you guys maybe want to discuss before
we wrap up? Is there anything you got coming up
that you've been working.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
On or dead Legion? Like I said, dead Legion, they're
smart right in the very front with the gun and
you can that's right there.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
And I always have him on my wall.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I've had him on my wall for a few years now,
and I would say, uh, that's something that like we're
both in together. Strange toys, which hasn't come out yet
with with probably Lopez.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, I saw that. What is is that supposed to?
Because it looks like stranger things like the Covered Well.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
No, it's it's way sci fi like with toys coming
to life and all like it's got a lot of stuff,
uh stuff to it. I play a bounty hunter and
he's the police.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Yeah, I'm a very cookie cutter police officer that yeah, yeah,
just cook cart Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
So it's it's comical. It's it's definitely comical.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
So do you know, do we have any idea and
like when that's going to be released?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I have no idea, actually no idea. I don't know
any part of doing I would guess wait, wait, well
more than a year. But I don't know, like I
could be surprised. I would guess it's more than a
year from now.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Well, and you know, like most I do know, like
most films and stuff are usually done like years before
they're released, right.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Well, it depends like some people do, like just like
I can do it within a year, you know, like
you do something in January and it comes out in
you know August or September, like you know, maybe film
January February. It would come out, and other people take
you know, year and a half because they you know,

(57:50):
before it comes out. Other people take three four years
before it comes out, so you never you know, it's
just and actually I'm really prefer a year and a
half or less because by the time something comes out,
it's like you can forget about the project almost, you know,
you've got so many other things since then. So I

(58:12):
like it better. But at the same time, I understand
sometimes that's just the way it is.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Yeah, I'm just like getting patents and licensing on a
lot of that stuff too, right, just because because people
could probably still the idea too. Like if you release
something without any like licensing or anything on it and
something's still the product, I'm guessing.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Yeah, I've actually people who have had their ideas stolen.
Yeah really yeah, yeah, I mean I want to say
names and stuff, but yeah, I have had people say
they showed a script to someone and they said, hey,
this is a good idea, we were looking to do
something like that and whatever, and then they come up

(58:49):
with similar you know telp I guess I don't know
if they steal it directly, but then they come up
with something very similar.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, see that would suck, and that's a big thing
for what I do is like I feel like I've researched.
When I first started podcasting, I researched a lot on
how people podcast and I was like, no, yeah, I
tempted to do it, but it didn't feel like me.
So then I kind of got into my own rhythm
and my own niche on how I do things, and
I love it. I Mean, I know, I followed networks
of podcasters and a lot of them either just talk

(59:18):
about each other or like there's no like premise to
what they do. But I feel like a lot of
my shows are more you know, relaxed and kind of
just getting to know the people I have on.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
So very cool.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Marcus Man, I appreciate you coming on, Kyle. I obviously
appreciate you. You've been on three shows now on the network.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Yeah, I gotta hit all I gotta hit.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
And Marcus, I'd be happy to have you on some
of the other ones as well too. Yeah, I'll get you.
I'll get you on the on some of the other
ones too.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Uh, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Some of them won't be more catered to you, though,
because there's more of a like concept to it, Like
I've got true crime. I got this one called Sentences
I sockets. It's a I find like case files that
weren't solved and then like we'll break down the case
and then we kind of discussed like our perception on
maybe what we think happened. And those are a lot

(01:00:09):
of fun. Marcus, I'd be happy to have you on
that if you're in stuff like that. Yeah, and then yeah,
I'll keep in touch with both of you obviously. As
soon as this stuffs all finalized and out there, I'll
give you, guys links to everything. And Kyle, you know,
I make clips from all the shows, so and these
are your shows too. If you've been on it, you
have all You can find it on YouTube, take any

(01:00:31):
content you want off of it. And I am currently
putting stuff on IMDb, so this will be on there
eventually too. Kyle is offered to help me out with
that too, so I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
All right, until next time, we'll see everybody around, Marcus.
Thanks again. Kyle will be in touch, We'll be we'll
all be in touch. Have a good day, guys,