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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The whole point is the share on here.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, and there's the ship out
of yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Keep the conversations you know possible, and you're doing your.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Friend job on.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Jukebox ginger back with another episode of Stardom. Man, we
are just cranking out episodes lately, and uh, this guy
Maurice Clark.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know, I guess I should probably put senior in
there because I notice you specified on everything else. How
you doing, man?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Good? Good?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So we've rescheduled this, I think three times.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What did you say?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I said we were going to make it happen one way?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, matter what, we were going to make
it happen. At least the communication was clear. So you know,
I think we're all good. How you doing, man? How's life?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And I'm doing awesome? Life is awesome. I have no
complaints my way.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's good me either.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I've been off work for a little bit. I got
some foot surgery done a few months back, so I've
just kind of been chilling. I probably go back next week,
so I've just been resting. I guess that way to
say it. So you're a you're a father. I noticed
that on some of your stuff. Yeah, you got some
couple of kids. I'm guessing one of them is named Maurice.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I have four kids, all of
which are bigger, and my older three live in Texas
and I have a four year old that lives with me.
At some point, I'm sure he will jump on daddy's lap.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, you are six five, so it might take him
a while to be able to jump that. You're a
big dude, man, I was looking at some of your stuff.
Three hundred pounds sixty five. You're a big guy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, I've been well, people don't believe most I've been
this size since I was thirteen.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No shit, Yeah that's impressive. I think I stopped grow
when I was thirteen. And I'm just kidding. I'm like,
I'm five ten, So you know, I think that's about
an average for a dude. I don't know, uh so
what you're I mean being an actor, which we'll get
into that here shortly, but has your height played a role,
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like a role in some of the posite like spots
that you've gotten and the roles that you do.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Uh yes, most definitely it so it helps me and
it hurts me. A lot of the major actors. You're
Tom Cruises, your Leonardo DiCaprio's your Vinzel Washington. Most actors
are short and they want they want the camera to
stay in a line, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, So with me being.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Six y five, it it gets me into certain roles
and it kicks me out of certain roles at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Is that I'm guessing if like the lead is you know,
maybe shorter, and they don't want like a dominant person
over them.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I met Steve Martin in Vegas and Steve Martin is
like five foot he is very short. Like have you
ever seen any of his older films or any of
his films at all? Like you don't, you don't notice,
but like you see him in person, he's a freaking midget. Dude.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He's a legend.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I walked up, he said hi to me, and as
soon as I went to ask him a question, his
guards is like, nah, he wants to break. He's going
to the high Stake stable leave maloneas that A right cool.
I think that's one thing about acting that I wouldn't like.
I think i'd enjoy it for a minute, but like
that fan base of people just like running it up
on you one year, autographed constantly, I don't know that
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i'd want to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah it, you know, I hear a lot of times where,
you know, people come across these celebrities and they don't
want to have an autograph and they're looked at as bad.
But I kind of. I mean, some days you just
you know, you may be having a bad day, you
may be tired, may have just gotten off of four
or five hour flight, you know, and you try your
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best to be nice. But then there's some days you
know you don't want to be bothered.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So right, right, and you're Kansasity local? Are you born
raised here? Casey?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yes, born and raised here South Kansas City. It's my
junior year in high school. I moved to Texas, So
I did about fifteen years in Texas and then been
back here ever since.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What made you come back?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh man, that's a story story on its own. But
I had to get get my life together, had to
come back, and that was one of the best decisions
I've ever made. Because I've only been going up ever since.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I can say I had a similar situation. I had
a job in Lawrence, Kansas and I had a buddy
go hey man. We got an opportunity to move to Colorado,
and I was like, yeah, we just transferred job. So
I just did that. I got a place with some
people that lived out there, and things went downhill pretty quick,
like partying and other things, and I held a job.
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The other people started falling out on their end, and
I was like, well, I'm not I'm not picking up
your guys. And it was either moved back or figured
it out out there. I moved back. Definitely, definitely a
better decision for me. So I get it. I mean
not to the extremity because I don't know all the details,
but you know, I've definitely been in that kind of spot.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
M hm uh.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So being in Kansas City, I feel like the film
industry isn't really as popular as people might think. But
I've recently been meeting a lot of people that are
into film directing or acting here in the city, and
it amazes me that there's such a wide crowd of it.
How did you get involved in it? Because I noticed
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a lot of your stuff is recent, like within the
last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, so I was just like Maurice Junior here, I
was born a character. I've been the character of my
entire life several people, can you know, church plays and
Easter plays and all that kind of stuff. Then you
get into middle school, high school and college there's you know, drama.
You have to pick an elective, right right, So I
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think that I am excelled at that and you know,
life gotten the way and I think about three years ago,
three yeah, about three years ago, I decided I wanted
to see what could happen if I take it seriously.
And within six months I had an agent, and within
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six months I was able to through my agent, I
basically booked a role. I don't know if the show
is still on, but it's a show on Netflix called
The Cartel and they wanted me to Yeah, yeah, I don't.
I haven't, man. I was so upset I couldn't take
that role, but they wanted me to sign on to
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be in Atlanta for six months. And I think Maurice
Junior was, you know, very little. I'd been married a year.
I just I just couldn't take it. But that let
me know that I had what it takes. And that
kind of tweaks something in my mind, and ever since then,
I just full throttle.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah. Does it? Does it affect your day job and
stuff like that or do you kind of work around it?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
My I've been blessed to have jobs. My current job,
I'm an electrician apprentice, and they they think it's just
the coolest thing. They allow me, you know, a day
or two if I if I book a gig, no harm,
no foul, no problem.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right, what is your what do you what do you
feel like? Sorry? How do you feel when you like
see some of the stuff you've done, like being replayed?
Like is it? Is it kind of a relief or
excitement and adrenaline rush? Or do you kind of critique
yourself when you're watching it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I hate to watch myself. I just I do. But
one of the coolest moments, so one of the biggest
commercials that I'm known for is the Patrick Mahomes Magenta
Magic commercial.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah I got that. Let's see here is that a commercials?
There is that Magenta magic right there?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Nice? Oh you looked that up? Yeah, man, that's pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I could do this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's impressive. They say I kind of stole the show,
not the show obviously, I'm standing next to freaking Ben
Barnes and Patrick Mahomes. But let's say my face that
I'm making causes you to look at me.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, I agree. You mentioned it. You mentioned the commercial
to be and I watched it and immediately I could
point you out.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And the best moment to date, to get back to
your question for me, they played the crap out of
that commercial, and they played that commercial all the way
up until obviously the day before the super Bowl for
obvious reasons. And my best moment, and I think last Christmas,
we were at if people remember the Chiefs played, We
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were at my mom's house. We got about forty or
fifty people there, you know, twenty five people upstairs, twenty
five people downstairs, and Chiefs are playing and goes to
commercial and here comes that commercial. Literally the entire house
was like, Oh, that was the best feeling that I've
ever had in my life.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, dude, that's kind of like that oh my god feeling. Yeah,
I get it, man, that's it feels good I've had.
I remember my first experience where I was at work.
You know, I don't typically tell people where I work
at Costco up North and North Kansas City, and I
was working one day and somebody walked up to me
and they go, hey, you're jukebox Ginger, and I'm like, yeah,
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how do you know who I am? Well, it turns
out there in some of the Facebook groups I'm in,
so they see the stuff I post and you know,
but it still it felt good.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It was like, oh wa man, people recognize me.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Uh yeah, I think there's a I'd always critique myself,
like I'll watch like shows after I do them, especially
because I do a little bit of editing the audio
aspect of it and stuff, so I'll catch myself saying
too many times or whatever. But I think the biggest
part of it is is not having that like freeze
moment or that dead air and I'm guessing when you're acting,
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and stuff like having to redo your lines over and
over again and probably gets nerve wracking.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Do you like.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Trying to do you prep quite your lines quite a
bit before you go.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
On, Oh yes, I wake up. I'm blessed. Let me
start here. I'm blessed that my wife and son they
know by now. So as an example, I'm on, say,
a week before shoot, I'm practicing, I've already know my lines.
I'm seventy five percent in character the day of the shoot,
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I wake up, I'm in character all day and I love.
That's the thing I love about film and TV versus
theater is there is no stop and cut on theater, right,
so the you know, if you do mess up, you
know the director. They can stop, cut and reset very
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very rarely. I've had one time where I messed up
my lines and I knew them, but I just couldn't
get him out. I kept messing up. So I think
we laugh about that because the director of that movie Counteract,
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which would be out twenty twenty five, they he laughed
because it's never happened before to me, and he was like, Maurice,
what's what's up with you today? I said, I don't know.
So luckily it doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
There we go right.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
There, it is Counteract. YEP, I'll looked it up. So
you did you play a pretty major role in this one?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh my goodness, I play a mean bad guy. Okay,
I play in this particular film, I play I appear
to be the leader, but there's people above me. But
I'm the leader of a sex trafficking ring. Okay, And
I love that role because it allowed me to show
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how do I put this? It allowed me so I
have to be kind of a pompous jerk. H I
say more without saying more. My face and my body
language did did allowed of talking. But when I do talk,
I'm a straight jerk, which is totally opposite of who
I am as a person. So that that role was very,
very fun. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I was gonna ask, what do you prefer doing? Do
you like doing more of like a mean character or
like a positive character?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Right now? I love the mean characters because it gets me,
so I play them according to what people tell me.
I would never take this about myself. I play them
so well. Right. But you know, as my career grows
and I and I get bigger in the entertainment industry,
I would love to branch off and do some different things.
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But right now, man, I can I play a mean
bad guy.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's good. I mean, you have the the build for it.
You got that deep voice. I feel like it's pretty easy.
H You know, we talked about Kyle Climean and he
mentioned how he really enjoyed being the bad guy too,
so I was curious what you had to say and
like what you preferred, especially being your height. I think
that that kind of probably plays into it as well.
(14:19):
But we've also done Look this, dude, you've done all
kinds of stuff. You've got music videos that you've been in. Yes, yes,
I mean I recognize two of these guys. I don't
know the parasitic, but yeah, what's what's shooting a music video?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Man, my goodness, that'd be totally different than doing a movie.
You're a commercial, yes and no.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The preparations the same, the the amount of So I'll
give you an example. Actually, I'm be honest, it's harder
physically and mentally to do so on the asap Rocky
video as an shot here in Kansas City. That was
my hardest that tested me as an actor. How bad
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do you want this? So it was his directorial debut,
so of course he's gonna be you know, guys, on
that level, everything has to be perfect. Usually on a set,
if everybody's has their a game going. On a movie set,
you might do three or four takes from this angle,
three or four takes from a different angle, and then
another three or four takes from a wide angle on
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this day. Oh my god. So we had to hop
out of a hummer and run about fifty yards up
to where asap Rocky was. So the first five takes,
the energy's low. We gotta do it again. Looks good
at the energy's low. So we do another five or
six or seven takes. Energy's great, but somebody messed up.
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So after about twelve or thirteen takes. Now, mind you,
we got to keep jumping out humber and run fifty
yards right, So after that we finally get it right.
All right, that's good, do it again. Switch the camera
over there, next angle. I probably did that. That set
day was probably no joke. Sixteen hours for a music
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video or a music video.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And so I'm I think. Let me see, I'm forty one.
I was probably thirty eight or somewhere thirty nine, somewhere
out of shape, bent over, breathing, hard, tired. What made
me feel better was these young, skinny guys were bent over,
breathing hard, tired as well.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
All right, it's not just me, we're Good's not just me.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That music video, I want to say too, opened up
the door for me for the Snickers. The Snickers commercial
which I got cut out of, and the T Mobile
commercial Heather was there. I'll never forget what on lunch
break Heather layered. I think she's the only or the
biggest casting director here in Kannessity. So we were eating
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lunch and you know, have you ever you feel someone
looking at you so hard that burning a hole in
your neck? Yes, I'm eating and I look up and
she's just staring at me right in the faith, and
you know, being professional, I just you know, wave and
you know, continue eating. And she walks up to me
and she says, you, Maurice, aren't you Yes, ma'am, I
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am just like that and walks away. And a few
months later or however long later, she contacts my agent says,
we want him to audition, and did the audition for
the the T Mobile commercial. End got it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's that's great, man, I mean, that's that's a big role,
you know, for for something like that, especially something is
being aired for the Super Bowl too, you know. Yeah,
it has to feel good, man. What about Tech nine?
Pretty good? Gay?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh yeah, he's awesome. That one was cool. That one
was a long shoot, but nothing compared to the asap
Rocky we was. They asked me. A lot of times
they asked me, which is it's good that they know
a lot of times I get phone calls or emails
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before official casting comes out and I've done the Parasitic
first X rated. He's a rapper. He has a story
out of the Bay Area, California. He was an innocent
guy that went to prison for all these years, got
out and signed with Tech nine. So I was a
feature in the Parasitic video. And after that, they of
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course they called me and say, hey, do you want
to be in Tech nine's video. I'm like, no, yeah,
so we go. I think that video I want to
say it started at three or four pm and at
two am we were still filming, wrapping it up. But
he is awesome. He's very professional, he's very cool. The
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thing that I remember most about that video shoot is
at the end of the shoot before we wrapped. Now
this is two two thirty in the morning, We've all
been there for hours, he literally shook There's one hundred
and twenty five people on set. He smiled and shook
one hundred and twenty five hands and took one hundred
and twenty five pictures. Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, that's that takes some real strength, I feel like,
especially from somebody at that level. You know, you get
some of these actors or celebrities that get to like
a certain status and they like get tired of it,
like you kind of talked about, you know, some actors.
But I's that takes a lot of I don't know,
it gives you a lot of credibility and kind of
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verifies that you know, you're a legit person. You haven't
kind of let that thing get to your head.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, that's good, cracking joke, Oaks laughing.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It was awesome. Man. I'll never forget. I'll never forget
those music.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Videos and I've I've actually been able to be a
part of one music video. I'm really I love music
in general. It's kind of where I got the name Juwbox.
And I was in a metal music video in Overland
Park and it was at a bar, so the whole
thing was shot in the bar, but it took like
twelve runs on the same song and just I mean,
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everybody's in this tiny little it was it was a
smaller venue and we're all just jumping back and forth
trying to go create. I mean, I was sweating so bad,
and the reason they were like I remember talking to
some of the cameramen and some of the other people
and they were saying, they have to make sure that
the lips are syncing with the lyrics, and like, I'm like, man,
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I didn't think there was so much involved in it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah for three minutes and thirty seconds. Yeah, you're
there for twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Hours, right and then you and then you watch it,
you know, looking for yourself and like me, I definitely
didn't have a role like you do. It's just like
a quick like shot in my face right in the
middle of a crowd, like, oh, you have to like
still frame it. No, that was me.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's me man. The the Snicker's commercial, Ah, I thought
I arrived. I thought I arrived. I made a big
Facebook post, So how that one started? I'm there And
here's what I love about commercials, especially big bludget commercials.
So you get there, you check in, they walk you
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the where you need to be. This one was shot
in the Chief's actual stadium. Okay, so you're walking past.
I mean they have breakfast, burritos, sausage, biscuits, all that
you can eat. You can't eat it, eat it all.
It's so much food and you're free to eat as
much as you want to eat. Off the elevator comes
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Andy Reid. He looks at me, or looks at us, Hey,
how you doing it? Keeps walking and you have to
be professional. You have to you have to appear unfazed.
And on the inside, my inner child is like, oh,
you know, so we get that. I started that commercial
as an extra and for whatever reason, they bumped me
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up to principle. Uh huh, And man, I'm excited. I'm
my paid so my pay bumps. I get FaceTime and
I get speaking lines. Well, four months later they decided
to cut everything except for what they aired, so that
I was you know that it humbled me, and it
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also taught me a valuable lesson to never speak on
a role until it comes out, because you don't know
if they're going to keep you know, the stuff that
you did or not right. Man.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
And that's that's crazy to think. Like, that's another thing
like when when actors or cast members drop out as
something or back out for whatever reason, if they have
to replace him, then you got to redeal half those
lines or more. Have you had experience any that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
No, I've heard of it, but I haven't experienced it personally.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I've seen so. There's an actor I had on Larry Hankin.
He's he's the angry neighborn friends. He's the junk yard
guy and breaking bad. He's one of the cops on
Home Alone, and he oh escape from Alcatraz. He's on there,
and he talks about some of these bigger named actors
and actresses and he's like, if they if they get
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pissy one day and they just don't want to do something,
and if they're big enough, they'll they'll even cancel their
roles and they have to get replaced if they don't get
what they want. And I'm like, man, that's it's a
vicious It's a vicious like industry to get into if
you want to get to the top. I feel like,
what do you like? Have you experienced any of that
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with anything like the cast that you work with. Has
there been anybody that was maybe a little bit harder
to work with.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I've been blessed. I haven't worked with anybody that was
hard to work with like that, but I do know
so one of the things that my acting teacher teaches,
I mean, he's been his name is too large. He's done,
kick ass, got them law and orders a lot. The
first thing that he teaches is don't get attached to
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the outcome. So I audition and I forget about it.
There's countless times where I get an email or call
say hey we want you. I'm like, awesome, thank you?
What what? What role is this again? I wish to
forget about it because it would be several examples where
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you killed the audition. You're the perfect character, you're the
perfect person, but this guy owes this, this guy a favor,
so we're gonna go with him. Or something as small
as so I'm taught never to wear cologne when you
go into an interview or audition. Okay, something as small
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as the cologne that you wear reminds the casting director
of her ex husband, which that just got divorced.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Wow, I didn't even think about that. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, so while you killed the audition, she's not going
to hire you. Now you remind her of an ex
husband that she doesn't like. So something as small as that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, that's you don't think about it either, Like that's
not something think about, Like if you want to get
into that without that instructor you probably wouldn't even notice that,
like you wouldn't even thought about it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So that did happen. So I before he taught me that,
I had an Allmark audition here in Kansas City. Oh man,
I'm looking good, smelling good. I got my favorite cologne on.
And I walk in the room. The first thing she
does and she said, oh, you smell good. Thank you, ma'am,
thank you you. And she gives me instructions. You know,
Hallmark commercials are silent a lot of the time, so
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I have to act down in the emotion, right, So
she said, you're you're extremely happy, somebody gives you a gift,
You're extremely happy, and action. Man, I'm crying. I'm not.
I cannot do the happy emotion better than I did
it right, and I killed it within myself. I killed
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that audition. I never heard from them again.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And you don't know why, nothing, You've done nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's I would assume, you know, Yeah, it could have
been anything. Maybe she didn't like maybe she maybe she
had her allergies were acting up that day. And I
mean she smelled me as soon as I walked in
the room, right, and you know, maybe I gave her
a sinus and headache or something with my my cologne.
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It could be something as small as that.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, that's that's good to know because I you know,
I definitely wouldn't have thought about that. That's that's crazy.
You've done a web series called City of Kings. Yes,
is that still going?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We just wrapped season one literally this past week, so
they're editing that. I can't weigh all, my goodness, my
character on that.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's that's a whole season too. That's how many episodes.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'm not sure I want to say at least eight.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, that's fun. That's gotta be fun doing a whole series.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yes, Oh, it's It's definitely fun. Takes a lot of commitment.
So I'm that. I believe that will that will release
twenty twenty five as well early twenty twenty five. I
play a detective, detective Robinson. I had so much fun
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playing that guy. He's he's a police officer, he's a jerk. Uh,
he's just always at the right place at the right time.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I'll put it like, and is that all shot here
in Casey?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, all shot here in Kensey.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
What has been your your biggest like memory doing a
series like is there something about this that you took
away as like something to help you grow doing a
series rather than just a music video or a commercial.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, definitely, First and foremost, you have to have the commitment.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I feel like you're doing a whole series.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, especially so Kansas City is a different market. We're
not like in Atlanta, LA or New York obviously, so
where you can do an episode, as an example, you
can do an episode in LA three or four days.
Series is done in you know, three months, six months here.
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You know, while we're growing market, most of us still
have ninety fives, so it may take a year or
two to do a complete series, you know, because we're
limited to evenings and weekends. Right. So the first of
all the commitment level. And then as an actor, you
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want to and here's the hard part about that. I've
from the time that we started this, over the two years,
I'm a better actor now than I was when we started.
But for continuity purposes, you want to try to remain
the same. You want to act the same, you know,
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the entirety of the time that you're there.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
So that's what I picked up on, just little stuff
like Okay, I started acting this way I'm going to
have to continue the series this way.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, So even if there was maybe something you wanted
to change or anything like that, it's like, Okay, well
it's too late. They got to keep that that character.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And I think budget too, you know, depending on you
know what, who the production company is, Like what kind
of budget do they have? Do they have connections for
like to shoot the scenes? Like where they going to
do it at. I'm guessing you've probably done everything from
smaller budget film to bigger budget stuff too, Like obviously
the commercials and the music videos. Have you noticed a
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huge difference between or I mean, as far as the
vibe goes, is it pretty similar across the board between
like a lower budget and a more feature.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
There's there's definitely some differences on the lower budget film
some I'm a foodie, that's the first thing I noticed.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm shocked. I am shocked. You're a big dude.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Do you like to eat? The lunch and dinners? They
provide clearly a different level for obvious reasons. It's more hectic.
On the bigger budget films, you don't see very few
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you might get a smile. So my thing is when
I walk on set I make everybody laugh at least once.
That's my thing. So let's laugh, let's break the ice,
let's let's get rid of that tension. Now, let's work.
That's my thing. Yep. That's harder to do on the
bigger budget projects because every minute, every hour costs you
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know what I mean, X amount of thousands of dollars.
So I've seen freaking executive producers. Nobody's walking around with a.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Smile, deadlines, all kinds of and if.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You've created a movie before, you know something always goes wrong.
You just expect that something's going to go wrong, right,
So they're not They might smile after wrap that day,
but during production they're not smiling. And on the smaller production,
it's a little bit less stressful, a little bit more freedom.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
To adventure on the character.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Maybe adventure character. So as an example, on that T
mobile commercial, you want to wait, you want to wait
on them. You never want them waiting on you, so
it's hurry up and wait. And of course Patrick Mahomes
isn't there yet, but that's okay. He can get there
when he wants to get there. You get there, and
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you have to be in position, and you haven't pee
since eight am and it's noon, you know what I mean.
But you don't want to risk on to the bathroom
because if they call your name and you're not there,
you're gone.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Dangs that kind of Oh.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, there's a thousand people outside waiting. They want you
to go use the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So they can replace you.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I didn't even think. Like, that's another aspect that I
don't think about.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
That's like, I had an opportunity recently to do a
lifetime film. You might have even heard of it recently
happened like in the last couple of weeks. They were
I had an extra spot that I was potentially could
have done. But man, I can't. I can't commit to
twelve hours, you know, I can't for whatever reasons. If
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I had more of a heads up, it would have
been something. But like, uh, kylel. Mint reached out and like, hey,
we need some extras. You interested. He got me in
touch with them. I was like, yeah, I'll do it.
And then they're like, oh, well we worked like thirteen
hours a day. I'm like, well that's out the window.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah. You being a father and like you said, you've
been blessed kind of with you know, your wife and
your kids, kind of accepting what you do and enjoying it.
Has there been roles where it's like, man, you really
have to kind of step away and commit to it
for a while and kind of like go somewhere to
be there for a certain amount of time. Have you
had that kind of issue?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Not? As not as so I had to do recently
about a month month and a half ago, I had
to do. I got cast as a husband in a
movie called Sins of the Father, which will be out
in twenty twenty five. Okay, And it had a sex
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scene in it, or implied sex scene, right, and so on,
stuff like that. My wife knows if I come to her,
I'm not asking for permission to do it, but I
want to let you know everything that the job entails.
So I told her, I told her how sex scenes work.
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We're clearly not having sex, but it appears right. And
I said, you know what, take a day or two
think about it, and if you want me to take
it out will and if you don't, I won't. And
she comes back and she said, I don't want you
to take it. I say, you sure? Now, if I
signed this paper, I can't back out, right, He said, no,
there's no telling what doors this can open for you, right,
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And I know it's just work. Take the job, right,
And so I did it. I went down there and
within my mind, I killed my part.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That was That was the most I would say. I
have to be there a few days and then came back.
But I think that was one of the roles that
I've had that. It wasn't as simple, Hey, I'm gonna
take the gig, I'll be there. You know that. I
had to involve my wife and get her.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, you know, which is very respectful to me. You know,
it's why wouldn't you, especially for a scene like that. Yeah,
like you said, I'm not asking permission, but you know,
I will back out if that's good man. That's That's
definitely shows who you are as a person to being
able to do that, not just saying hey, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Well, I mean, I gotta I gotta live with this moment,
I gotta sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
With this one the movie comes out, the movie comes out.
You didn't even tell her about.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It, right, right?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
My wife strangled me.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And I'm not told her about it.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Oh yeah, all right, So let's talk about Counteract. Man,
you know that's a film that's getting all these You
have a couple that are in post production that they're
not released. But the Counteract we kind of talked about
as some of the cast in there is there. Who
did you Did you get to work alongside a lot
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of them?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Or oh yeah, there's a lot a lot of great
talent in there. Kansas City is still a growing market,
so you work with a lot of people. Run over
and over. Mm hmm, I believe who's all? Oh my goodness,
(37:07):
who's all in that? Uh So Tamra Barnes, Mary. I
can't pronounce her last name. Please forgive me. She's an
awesome talent. I would rather not pronounce her last name
than butcher it.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, see, I'm the opposite. I like to butcher them comically.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
But yeah, there's so many great talent and I can't wait.
I say, I saw the We had a red carper premiere,
right and uh so I actually saw that and I
can't wait for it to get to be released because
I promise you if every movie that I was ever
in released today this month, this year, people would think
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I was famous.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Like just the quality of the movies.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, well, the quantity and the well and the quality too,
Like that's a that's that's the biggest difference between commercials
and films. Commercials within two to three months tops, you're
on TV, right, films by the time the audience sees that,
it might be a year minimum.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Right, you know, I've heard that's in a lot of
like these bigger budget films are shot years in advance
before they even get to the point where they're even
in a theater to be premiered. Right, So the earliest
thing you've done was twenty twenty two, is that right?
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As far as what's on here, I mean obviously I
don't know everything, but on here you got like the
I think the commercials were twenty three, the music videos
are twenty three, but I think twenty twenty two is
the series. And then you have that promised chronicles too.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yes, that was my first movie. Anthony Wright put me
in that my first movie, So did Counteract.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah I see that. Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, I did a play before that, and so he
I will, he will forever have my loyalty as much
as I can give it to him without risk risking
or jeopardizing my career.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, I get you, guys, I see what you're saying. Yeah,
and uh, you actually played a couple roles in that.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh my goodness, yes, preacher, homeless guy. Yeah, I had
to I was. I was an agent. I had to
learn this. Uh. I believe that. I believe the term
is Yiddish. That's what Israeli people speak. I think the
name long, story short, terrible freaking accent.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's what you had to do as a homeless person.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
No, I had to do that as the agent. I
was a bodyguard agent to the Minster. Yeah, and that's
where I have. I studied that for a week. I
couldn't get it.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I I can't do language for the life of me.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I remember in middle school, my first quarter of Spanish,
my teacher called my mom and said he needs to
drop out of this class. He's wasting both of our time.
I can't do man. I can learn street like like
a street Spanish, or like I've worked in you know,
I ran restaurants. I've worked in kitchens, so like that
slang Spanish I get. I can have simple conversation, but
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I can't sit here in an attempt to study a language.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I tried.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Did they say anything? I mean, do you have to
shoot it several times because you mess it up too much?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
No? Well I didn't as far as my lines. I
mean I was dead on with my lines. But somebody
who a somebody who knows the language would shake their
head like, oh my god. Or even an experienced actor,
you know what I mean, they'll be like, oh they
would crane like, oh, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
So that's funny. Have you had to do accents in
any of your roles or no?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Only that one?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
That's it. See, that's be hard man. I think the accent,
accent and another language on top of that. Yeah, that's
that takes some Get you talking about commitment, man, I
mean I feel like a lot of the circles back
to commitment.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, well, it's it's in my particular situation, not saying
that this is everyone's. So situations are different. If Warner Brothers,
you know, Lionsgate call or email and say, hey, we
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want you to be this person. This role pays you
know ten grand, well, well you better show up and
be ready, right, you know what I mean. I haven't
had that opportunity yet.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It will happen.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh, I'm praying. I'm working towards it.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I feel like that's something where you'd have to actually
go to l A or something to shoot it or
wherever they are for the film. Yeah. Yeah, Blumhouse as big,
lions Gate is huge. What's some of the production agent
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companies that you would really like to get picked up?
Is there any in particular that you want more anothers?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Oh, my goodness, I don't know all of the production
company names. I would do a Walking Dead for free.
I'm one of those I love horror and zombies. My
kids I've cursed them with it because I've watched so
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much of it. They love zombies. I would do that.
If they covered my flight and and fed me crackers
and cheese, I would do that for free. So I
love the Walking.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Deads I did so my it was hard for me
to get through. So I liked the last like three
or four seasons. In the first like three seasons I
really liked, but I really had to push to that
little middle section. But I did it. You know, I
rewatched it. I watched the whole thing. It was good,
but again, I really had to push through that middle seer.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, it's it's yeah. I would do some law and Orders.
I just I can't remember the name of all the
production companies. But there's there's several that I would freaking
do for free. Just feed get there.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, what about cast I mean, is there certain actors
or actresses that you really look up to as far
as what you do that you look at?
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Oh? Yes, so many. I was watching a few a
few days ago. I was watching Djingo and it's at
the scene one of the scenes where they're sitting down
and Leonardo DiCaprio does the whole thing with the skull,
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and then there's Samuel L. Jackson and all the actors
in that scene, and they said that when he when
he hit the skull, he hurt his hand and it
was bleeding. They said, all that was real. Wow, Yeah,
that's what That's what they said. And he stayed in characters,
stayed in that moment. Not only did he stay in character,
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the entire scene mates stayed in character and just brought
that scene to life. And I was like, oh my god.
So the artistry of that draws me to him because
I would have been like, ah, shit, cut you know
what I mean, which is a no no, by the way,
you can never do that right. For him to do
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that and and the people around him not not miss
a beat, right, So I would answer your question. Leonardo DiCaprio,
Sam Jackson, Ben Affleck the legend legends. I would love
to even if it's a one liner. I don't care, Yeah,
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because I would. I would pick their brain.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, I think, just to sit down and have a
conversation with him.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
You know, I don't really have like a specific actor.
But there is a movie that I watched like four
times in a row that I was like, man if
I ever had an opportunity, The Hatefully Do you ever
see the hate Pulate? Samuel Jackson plays in it. It's
a Western, It's got Kurt Russell as well. And they're
all like trapped in this cabin in like a winter storm,
and one of them is like an outlaw, uh, wanted
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for murder, and they're all trapped in this cabin. They
start killing each other off. It's it's good. It's really
reaction packed. You like horror, so I mean, what's you
like Walking Dead? What's some of the other like big
horror films that that you really enjoy? Are you like
talking classic? Are we talking more modern?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Both? My fact, I was hooked ever since Night of
the Living Dead, the black and white version and the
color right. That's my first because I can't help but
think in the back of my mind, what if something
like that happened, you know what I mean? So I
put myself in that situation, that would be freaking scary.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
That would be terrifying.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah. But the new like some some some of them
are a little out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Trying door or like Slasher.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
No, no, the I try to stay away from the
demonic stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Right, like the Deliverance it just came out.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, that type of stuff. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I just what's your views?
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I am?
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Are you a religious? I mean, we don't have to talk
about it. Are you a religious man? I mean? Is
that why you try to steer away from it?
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I'm I wouldn't call myself. I grew up religious, same,
I wouldn't call myself necessarily religious. Today I'm more more
more spiritual. I think I would call it.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Did you just took the words out of my mouth?
Speaker 1 (47:32):
What I am? But I still I don't. I'm the
type of person I don't want to mess with it.
I don't know much about it, but I don't want
to mess with it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I think that if evil definitely exists in people, and
I think if it exists on another realm, it wants
to be seen. So if you're gonna dabble in it,
it's gonna mess with you.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Right right, And I don't got time to be dealing
with that in my right.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
H Dalton Weaver. I had him on recently. Know who
he is? Yes, uh, and we talked about him because
he's a Haunted House actor and that's the way we
actually talked about that. I was like, man, that's gonna
be kind of interesting because like you're going into something
with the intentions to be scared, but like as a
cast or like somebody in that scene, you know, in
the the Haunted Houses and that experience, that's kind of
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you're kind of dabbling. It's kind of like messing with
the Ouiji board man, like, yeah, trying to provoke stuff to happen.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I loved I cast him in a project
that I had. We didn't get to complete the project,
but he he did an amazing job. So I speaking
of what we're talking about, I had I'm working on
my first, well technically my second, but we put the
plug on the first one. So it'd be my first film. Okay,
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About to go into casting for that Call through my
Eyes to where a young lady she actually has the
ability to see even in po Wow. Yeah, it's gonna
have I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this one.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
So you're writing the script for it and everything?
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Uh, yes, script is complete, About to go into casting.
Kyle A Mint, Yeah, I see him as a as
a character in there. I reached out to see if
he would read for me for a certain role. Definitely
Dalton as well. But oh, it's it's so I'm in
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a lot of these groups and me loving horror. Of course,
if I get to make a movie, that's what it's
gonna be, right, And comment after comment after comment they're like,
it's not any good scary movies anymore, and they're all
the same or I haven't been scared and you know,
and so that that challenges me. So if I get
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an opportunity to make a movie, and if I get
the budget that I'm going for, I'm a scared to
shoot out of somebody.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yes, that's what we need, though, that's what we need.
A good scare man. You don't get a lot of
it around anymore. And I think it's I don't know
if it's lack of commitment, like we've talked about it, what,
but it seems like they're remaking films. Some of them
are okay, depending on the director and my view or opinion,
and then some of them it's like you butchered, like
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you just totally ruined the original by making this, you know.
And I think it's because I think the quality and
like the graphics now compared to what they were twenty
thirty years ago. When you're remaking a film, if you
messed with the storyline too much, it kind of takes
away the value of the film for those who were
big fans of the original. Right for example, I don't
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know if you were Bruce Campbell fan, but like the
original Evil deads, did you watch any of those?
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Uh, they remade them. They're good, but they don't follow
the storyline like at all. So like if you're a
fan of that original, uh, you know there's three there
was three movies in that series. Uh, if you're a
fan of those and then you watch these newer ones,
oh they're remaking them, you would be just upset because
it's not the same, like at all, not what you're expecting,
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right right.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
That reminds me similar situations where they remade. So I
grew up with you know, the original Aladdin Lion King. Yes,
so when when when they remade the newer versions, me
and my wife were kids. We literally became eight year
old kids again, popcorn and you know, candy, the whole nine.
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We're ready. And while there were some good moments, I
think they dropped the ball. They could have made it great.
Was it Lion King? I feel like they dropped the ball.
I think they did a good job the Laddin. I
feel like it was Lion King that they dropped the
ball in my opinion, like it was good, but there
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were some opportunities there to just freaking excel the first
one even and they just didn't capture that.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
No, they didn't. And that's the same thing with like
for me, the big one was beating in the Beast.
That was a big classic Beating the Beast. Fan When
they redid like a live version of it, I just
like they switched up too much of the aspects of
the characters. And like again, if you're a fan of
those originals, you know those details where it's like that's
not that's not supposed to be there, right, and it
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throws it off Sylvie. You got a lot coming out, man,
There's there's a lot for people to be looking forward
to with you on it. It's as far as being
an actor in such a short amount of time. The
progression that you've done is great and the amount of
stuff that you've done is insane. So commitment, I think
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is huge. And you've touched on many times throughout this episode.
Is there anything that you haven't tried yet? Like, is
there a genre that you you haven't dabbled in yet?
As far as films?
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Oh, yes, I haven't been cast in a horror film.
Well I was an extra and Don't Move, which will
be out Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
That Netflix, not the Netflix Don't Move, Not the Netflix
Don't Move.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
This one will be in theaters. The amount of phone
calls that I've received, And to my defense, they have
the same name, which I didn't think was legal.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
But how did they get away with that because it's
literally the exact same name.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
You gotta move, Hello, that's ebody. I don't know how
that works. So anyway, I was casting that as an extra.
That's semi horror. Oh, that's all the way horror, but
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I want a at least a principal role in a
horror film. M h.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
I think the just the experience of being able to
kind of be in that mindset of being scared or
being somebody that's doing the scaring would be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Oh yeah. I recently so someone they're doing a short
here in Kansas City, and we were talking about me
playing Michael Myers. Oh my, I am going to have
so much.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
That would be a perfect role for you. You're you
got like the you got everything in your advantage.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah, So I hope that comes to fruition. Yeah, I would.
You know what I want to do. I want to
do something out of the norm.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
So I do I do something just for the fun
of it, because I've had a lot of comedians and
a lot of actress and actresses on and I do
this messenger group thing where I'll come up with like
a scene idea, and I'll say, everybody gets you know,
you each get a week to send me three woman
ete clips and improvate however you want, and then I
make them into short films. I call him burn after playing.
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We recently did one called Decay, and I had like
comedians from Indiana and like New York on and we
were a task force that dealt with kind of paranormal
and we get a call from this town where everybody's
teeth were getting stolen, so we had to go hunt
down the tooth fairy. So, I mean, it's just absurd stuff,
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but we just have fun with it, and it really
it really challenges me because I have to turn it
into a short film based on what people are giving me.
But it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Man oh, yeah, that sounds like a lot.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
So I have If you're ever interested in doing something
like that, I'd love to have you on.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Man oh all day and that definitely.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Sweet good. I'll catch you in dide. I really appreciate
you coming on today. Is there anything that you want
to tell everybody before we in the show? Maybe something
to look forward to. Is there a certain film that's
maybe closer than the other ones is about to be released?
Speaker 1 (56:10):
I you just never know what these films. I do
know I did last I heard Counteract is dropping early
twenty five, so definitely check that out. I go into
production of my film in March through my Eyes, so
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this will be my directorial debut. Can't wait exact that one. Oh,
it's gonna be so much.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Fun, especially could you get total control of it.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
I have one rule on my set. You are not
allowed to be in a bad mood.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
That sounds fun, well, I mean you know.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
It's we're here movies. You get to imagine and you
get to have fun and express and as a character,
as a kid, it should be. It should be a
time to where you can have fun and embrace that character. Right,
So I want to do something different. My goal is
(57:18):
to break every rule that's out there on purpose. So
you're not allowed to be in a bad mood on
my self. You're gonna smile, you're gonna have fun, you're
gonna some jokes, and we're gonna have a good time
doing it. So right, No, just hopefully many more commercials
starting to break into the Las Vegas acting scene. And
(57:43):
just picked up an LA agent, so hopefully there you
know what there is now hopefully I'm going to be
on some stuff out in La. So twenty twenty five
I'm excited for. Just keep your eyes open. You never
know where you see me.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, man, that's exciting. And just as I met you,
like I said, we've had rescheduled. If you times a
great guy. Man, you've been very reasonable. Uh and uh,
I think you kind of have that. You know, I'm
a father figure. I'm just you know, social guy. You're
not a dick, so that's good. That plays in your advantage.
I really appreciate you coming on the show today. Man.
(58:18):
I'll put the link of your IMDb in on the
description for the today's show. And yeah, man, everybody, if
you're listening, appreciate you. Guys. If you're going to be listening,
I hope you enjoy it. If you listen to this far,
then you definitely enjoyed the content. So thank you all
for tuning in. And thank you Marie for being on
the show.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Thank you for having me. I'm honored that you would
have me on your platform, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yeah, and look forward to some clips. I always like
to make clips, and you've seen them. I see you
liking my stuff. So all right, man, hang out for
a minute. We're gonna end the show and I'll talk
to you here in a second.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
Oh,