More than a haunt w/Dalton Weaver

It's that time of year for haunted attraction. Let's sit down with an actor from one of Kansas City's local haunted trails, Dalton Weaver.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The whole point is to share on here.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, embarrass the out of yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Keeping conversations, you know, and you're doing your friend job
on your what's happening, everybody, Welcome back to Jayj's Loune.
We're back with another episode of Startup tonight. And this
was a hell of a last minute show today. But
you know what, our guest Dalton goes, Hey, man, you

(00:31):
want to do a podcast about haunted houses. I'm like, well, yeah,
of course I want to do an episode about haunted houses.
It is October Man, Dalton, How the hell are you, man.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm doing pretty good. I'm pretty excited to be on
board on this. And also, yeah, talk about the haunted
houses and Halloween and yeah, any other things they want
to discuss. So helly excited.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I met So I actually I friended you through Kyle
of Mint, So I had Kyle on. So I've had
Brett on first, and then I had Kyle on and
and Brett was like, hey, I know Kyle, and then
Kyle's like, hey, I got a bunch of people and
I think would love to come on yourself. So Kyle
has been on three of the shows and I've had

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Marcus McIntosh. I don't know if you know he is.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I know Marcus. I've worked with Marcus before.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, mauricees we had to reschedule, but me and him
are still talking. We're gonna get We're gonna get him
on the next week.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I love Maurice, you know. Yeah, He's a really good
guy to talk to and work with. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, it's talk about building a network. Man, This is
this is why I enjoy what I do. Dalton, Man,
why don't you tell every about yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
All right, my name is Dalton. You can say some
people know me in the han industry as a shocker.
Also people outside of the you know, the hot world
of this, Dalton, we were the actor or the filmmaker.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
So right, But yeah, and I got your IMD pulled
up here it says, what was this your camera and
electrical department and their producer? Yeah, damn nice man.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, what's funny is before I did acting, I was
actually wanted to be a crew guy.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh seriously?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah no.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Why so did you start out like on like the
behind the scenes doing like the camera stuff?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah? Did a camera let uh, lighting, sound assistant, directing, produce?
You know, producing, that's all I really love doing. But
the problem is was, uh, you know with a lot
of the stuff that you you know, going into that field,
you got to have money for the the equipment that

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can be thousands of dollars sitting here like good luck.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You know what, I'll just I'll do act. So you've
dabbled in quite a bit of acting, even in quite
a few even in like some series and movies, haven't you. Yes, Okay,
so let's talk about that before we kind of get
into the Halloween stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Actually it relates to how does that to be honest?
Where so this is again it's like I started out
as a Haunt actor, and then before in the twenties too,
I also did entertainment at the mall driving a mini train.
So yeah, so it was like subconsciously I was, you know,

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performing anyways, whether if at the mall or you know,
at the Haunt of Houses, and and so I spent
I would say a good Well, my acting career didn't
start to like twenty sixteen and so so before COVID hit, Yeah,
before COVID and and there was an actress, you know,

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and her name was Jessica Whitfield, and we both worked
at the Edge of Hell in Kansas.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
City several times.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, and so I've told her that I wanted to
get into like, you know, acting and film and and
so I got my first acting acting gigs was a
film called Child and so I got to you know,
pretty much play bald ancer, Okay, And so it went

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from there. And then after that I started working at
the the University's KU MED and then also you and
k C where I was actually doing acting work there,
but I was getting paid to be a standardized patient.
You were acting as a patient, yep, getting paid to basically,

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you know, having these different diagnosis and students would have
to handle the situation or find the diagnosis hold up.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So they actually that's it. That's the thing people hire
actors to do. That. Yeah, I'd never even would have
thought about that as an option.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's a lot of fun. I'm just saying, like, you know,
some of the cases you get paid to do. Like
I remember one place where they just you know, blooded
me up and just told me to go into like
the hospital and see what security would react. So so

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it was a lot of fun. They gave me like again,
they gave me like a fake switch blade and all
blooded up shirt close the rip.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
The most acting I've ever done was being in the
Sam's Club and they stopped us at the checkout and
one of the managers goes, Hey, I want you to
take this receipt and this basket for stuff, and I
want you to walk through the exit and see if
they catch you because this receipt's not the same receipt
as what's in the basket. So they're basically they're testing

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their staff at the doorway. And they're like, even if
they he says, they give you any trouble, obviously we're
gonna take her anything. And basically they said, whatever, once
you get through, come back. We're gonna buy you guys
whatever you want for the food court. So I'm like, okay, whatever.
So I mean, we've probably got like thirteen hundred dollars
or the product in the basket and the receipts not
even the same items. And we walked through. The league

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just kind of looks at the basket, listen of the receeats,
wipes it and gives it back to me, and I
went back up front gave me this look like are
you kidding me? See, they just let us go, so
We're sitting down eating like pizza and hot dogs, and
we see him like, go pull the employee off the
exit door. But that's about it, man. I mean I

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do a lot of you've been following me a little while.
I don't know if you've seen any, like the stupid
skits and stuff that I made. I do these little
like one minute clips where all like reenact like a
stupid news article or something just for fun right. People
like it. Man, It's it's I enjoyed doing it because
it's just my creativity. You know, I don't I can't

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do stand up, but I do like to be funny.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Right, like you were saying, reading an article and trying
to and you know, rephrasing it but putting in your
own little tone.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, there was one where like this nurse got fired
because a patient died in one of the rooms and
she stole his wallet to buy snacks out of a
vending machine. So I just like reenacted the scene. But
like if I was the nurse and I like walk
by the vending machine and I'm like, oh, oh man,
I forgot my wallet and then like you see me

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sneak in the room and go, oh, he's dead. And
like take his wallet and then I end the scene
with me snacking on some chips. It's just stupid. It's
so dumb, but I mean it's just fun.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Right, Oh go ahead, No, you go ahead. I was
gonna say, was I think the only thing I ever
do similar is this reef you know those little reeface apps. Yes,
I get. Sometimes I have a couple of friends I'll
do where we'll do back and forth. I'll sit there

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and just you know, put them in a scene and
see where they react, and it's like that's good. Got
to go to war at that.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
So, so, how how did you get involved in haunts
and the houses?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
So when I was funny, when I first started, it
was actually with my dad and I was we were
going all the way down to New Jersey and the
guy that was you know at the time, was living
i'd say, working with my dad. He was the one
that was trying to get this haunted corn Maize set up.

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And so basically went down to New Jersey and bought
a bunch of like costumes, props, you know, all that stuff,
and then driving back and so we would go in
during that time, you know where the fall is he
had they went in and built this cornfield, well tore
down this cornfield and it was a j like ku

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jhawk design. So it was like pretty cool. So it
was on the newspaper and stuff like that, and so,
m that's sweet man, Yeah it was. It was a
lot of fun. And so I was about ten years old.
You know. Of course my dad thought at time would
like wanted me to be the candy kit you know,

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candy person, and I kind of cried about it, and
I just wanted to go scare. So it was like, okay,
you go scared, and so they dressed me up like
a empire and you know, I just go run around
the cornfield scary people.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Hell yeah, man, that sounds like a that's so much
more interesting. Like whenever I watch like horror films and
stuff and you have the kids that are in them,
I'm like, I bet that kid had so much fun
making the movie, like they might. Yeah, it look scary
from watching it, but that kid probably had a blast
in that.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Scene because it brings the joy out of it, like
in you and I feel like you. It was a
lot to learn. And even when you're running and then
also you're hiding in the cornfields and you're sitting there
watching people seeing you know when they come and then
you jump out screaming aloud, and you're like freak out.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
And you know you're not gonna get in trouble by
your parents. So it's like, oh no, that's good man.
So you start at ten, all right? So I mean,
were you watching horror movies at a pretty young age too?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh yeah, I grew up watching Nightmare on Elm Street.
You Friday the thirteenth, you.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Remember, you remember Tales from the crypt I do a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
It was funny. I actually met the guy at a crypticon.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
The guy who played him. Oh yeah, dude, my wife
would be jealous man, that was her boyfriend. Yeah, dude,
I love. I grew up watching like the original Evil
deads with Bruce Campbell and just just off the Wall
Classic or like some of those cult classics. The Original

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the Thing like Franken Young, Franken Sinwich is comedy, but
like just I'd love horror, man. I love scary stuff. Uh,
and nowadays it's hard to really scare me, so it's
like I look for that. I like jump scares. Sometimes
sometimes it just annoys you. Like you ever watch a

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movie and you know the jump scares coming and like
you still fucking jump? That pisses me off. Uh went
for your roles though, like for doing this? How did
you exile? Exile? That's where you're at now. But before

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that you said you were at edge of Hell? So
have you done multiple different haunted houses?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I actually did so. I started out at the Chambers
of Poe.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, that one was so much fun. I was so
mad they got rid of that one.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, it was. That was my baby, you know when
I well, before the you know Corn Mazes. You know,
my first ever haunt paid job was at the Chambers.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So you were you were a kid.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, I was, like when I it was actually fit
a few months after I graduated high school, and so
it was. I started there and then worked there for
a couple of years. It's a very interesting, you know environment,

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you know, especially like with the history behind it being
you know, the old catacombs and then Dennis King's solver.
You know, if anybody knows who he is, he was
the original owner of it, and then the history behind
that him passing away while dying in it by the
elevator shaft, and then and then the place being haunted.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
So is that really what happened though, I mean, yeah,
you hear the speculation. Did he actually die in that
elevator shaft?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
He did that? He did die in that elevator shaft. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It like I said, it's it's it's crazy, you know,
it's like the fact that like the interesting things that
happened in there.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So yeah, I would say, like, you guys, you're just
an actor, but I feel like just walking around that place,
even as an employee, is creepy. It's gotta be at
least a little creepy.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
For sure, and like and you can't and the things
that you you like in the area just can't really explain.
Like I remember just one time, just hiding in a
curtain for you know, in the old house of Usher
and Slash doctor room, and this felt like this like
presence was right by you, right behind me, you know this,

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you know, like some weird energy touching you. And it's
like and so it's you know, I was like a
teenager at that time, like discomfort.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
And that before it was at ed Ground Poe.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
This was at the ed Ground Poe and Chambers, yeah,
Chambers of Po. So so.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
And I've obviously I'm a firm believer in like the
spiritual realm. And obviously I get that people don't believe it,
and that's fine, But I think when you're messing around
with it, and I think in the sense of haunted houses,
you're sort you're kind of dabbling in it. It's like
whipping out a Wuiji board, like you're walking into somewhere

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that's meant to be coming off as evil. So that
energy is already strongly negative.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, yeah, and you got me thinking. Now, now I
can give you another I can give you a superstition story.
Now this actually goes from so I start, well, this
was around twenty seventeen and I worked at the Edge
of Hell and I don't know, there was maybe five

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or six people in this you know, this ballroom, and
I'm the only veteran that's been you know, that's worked
my spot for five years. That's how I got the
nickname Shocker. So well that's one of the reasons. But
I thought would be funny to go scare all these workers.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
So the rest of the staff, like the other people
that are.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I would scare the staff. So I would course, would
you know, sneak in because there was this little doorway
that goes in, so I would sneak and go into
the doorway and just pop in and scare them and
or come back, you know, run back into my spot,
or go find another person scare them. And then so

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of course, uh one of them at that time was
you know, ex girlfriend, and she was like, I'm gonna
get you know, I'm gonna really get you. And I
was like okay, And so it was superstition wise. Yeah,
my room is you know that it's it's strobe lights.

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So I'm you know, that's see when it triggers. The
strobe lights kicked in one you know, one night, you know,
the strobe lights goes off, I'm like right behind this
curtain because I usually you know, when people come in,
you know, it's usually when the strobe lights goes off
and there's that pitch black. So when that pitch usually
my it's the you know, when the light comes on

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is when I get them. So but that's just the timing.
But something told me to turn my body backwards strobe
lights hit I see for some reason, thinking it's her
seeing her right on the ground, like you know, like
she is like some you know, you know tiger, you know,

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like you know, tiger position, like she's going to jump out,
and I'm sitting here startled as ship, you know, scared
of shit. So like she's in a charge and then
goes pits black and then the lights go off. She's
not there.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Dang.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
It was like and then I go out the door
and I asked her, I'm like, question, were you in
the room?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
No, You're like, you're swear like you you saw something?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, like it was some like spiritual projection that just
happened right in front of me.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Now is this common? Like do you hear this from
a lot of the staff? I mean, do staff witness
things that they that freak them out? Well?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, So besides, even at the you know edge of Hell,
there's other you know, other places that are haunted to
down there, like the old jobs, the.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Whole the whole West bottoms Man, the whole area is
just like the original case, right, So yeah, I mean
it only makes sense that the whole area is probably
fucking possessed by something, right.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And then also the old union stations down there. So
I had a co worker mine, my bad, but they
would I was gonna say, so the old union station
down there, mhmm, people.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, I do see people. I do see people tuning in.
So if you guys have any questions for free to
throw them out there. So yeah, continue continue the old
Union Station.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, the old Union Station. So so that alright back, sorry,
but the old Union Station. You know again, it's one
of the original places that was down there.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
You're good.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
That's better on Facebook, Yeah, I'm good. Phone was blown up.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Anyways, the Wonders of live shows people, right.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
So, so it was the old Union Station down there.
So there was a lot of things that happened down
there too. And I had, like I said, an old
friend of mine. Well I say x friend now. But anyway,
so they went in and did some like ghost hunting
one night on over at the beast side. And so

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they were using this like voice ghost transmitter and so,
and then of course they would hear like random people
saying like the different states, you know, like Ohio, Ohio,
you know. And so.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I had an experience when I was a kid. I
was I was like twelve, and I had my dog, Reno.
He was a Sharpei. He was four years old, and
I was in I don't remember what grade I was in,
but I remember I came home from school at a
barn in the backyard, and I let him out and
he wanted to come He wanted to come out, which

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was never like an issue, and so I went in
to try and get him, and he was like in
the corner of the barn, kind of jumping, like he
wanted to play, but it was weird, and I remember
going to grab him and he bit me, and I mean,
I ended up having to go get stitches, and my
step my stepdad got pissed off. He's like, he's gonna
bite one of the other kids, and I'm like, no,
he was. I don't know what was wrong with him.
He's usually a really good dog. Don't fucking kill my dog,

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but he did. He ended up shooting him in the
face and killing him. And he made me take him
into the woods behind the house and bury him. And
I buried him underneath this tree that he used to
love to lay and because I'd go out during the
summer and i'd play in the creek and he'd just
chill out in this underneath this tree. So that's where
I buried him. And I remember going home and uh

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going to bed, and about a week later, it's the
middle of the night. I don't know what time it is,
but I had like this ground window above my bed
and it was painted shut, like since we had moved in,
we could not open that window. But when I woke up,
it was open. And I'm like, that's weird, you know.
And I start looking around the room and I and
I make this shape. There's a shape like laying between

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my legs, but I could just see enough from the
moonlight where it was like a blob. But it starts
moving and I just start to hear like this low
growl and I wake up and I'm like, oh my god,
that's terrifying. Well, there was muddy Paul Prince all over
my room. The window was still wide open, and I

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was fucking I mean, I was freaking out. So I
took off to the back where I had buried my
dog and it was just an empty hole. It was
like either he had dug himself out or something got
to him and that was that was it. That was
my Since then, I believed I.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Can't explain that, I would be like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, man, And I was. I was young. That was tough,
and then my stepdad was pretty abusive, so I was
like scared to tell him, so I didn't. I remember
cleaning my room because I was like he was gonna
blame me. But like, dude, just the most unreal experience ever,
because it's like, how do you explain that? You know?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Right? Have you ever been ghost hunting before?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
So I was in a paranormal group for just under
a year. I did it because I like either I
think I had dated somebody for a very brief moment
that was involved in it. So I did it for
like almost a year, but we didn't last very long.
So and I had an experience in some lady's house
in Atchison that I never saw an actual entity, but

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so she called our group to come investigate. She had
a party to go to that night, so she so
we came in the day before and she kind of
toured the house and the issue, the reason why she
called us was because she had been had the cops
comed out several times because someone has been breaking into
her house. Except the problem was that there was never
a forced entry, so all like the windows and the

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doors were still shutting locked. So but she'd go in
and look like somebody robbed her house. And she's showing
us around the house and we go into her bedroom
and she's talking about how like some of the stuff
moved to your room, and out of nowhere, there's like
six of us in the room and you just see
her like dresser just slide across the room and she's

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like see she was just like see what We're all like, well,
but that was the only thing that we saw that
whole time. That was the most I've seen while I
was doing a paranormal investigation.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Last year was actually my first time ghost hunting, okay,
and I'm gonna give a huge shout out to my
buddy Jacob Collins. You know, he's the ghost hunter, so
his man's gone pretty much everywhere, including the I can't
even think of it. It's a conjuring house. Oh yeah,

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so he yeah, so he he goes places. So it's
it's always interesting hearing the stories he goes through. And
I tell you, for somebody that's been on one ghost hunt,
I can see why where people enjoy it because the
fact that not only you get scared, but it's also
that addiction to where it's kind of like a you
know that few you enjoy the feeling, but also you

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hate the feeling. Yeah, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
That I feel like fear can be an addiction.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right, it really is. Yeah, like even like you know,
scared trauma, you know, like when I say scared trauma,
like just the things that you don't see there that
are just disturbing, and it's like and it still gives
you that, you know, that gross feeling. But some people
just enjoy to see, you know, seeing it more. You know. Yeah,
Like I'll just say like like for let's say, like

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go back to movies for example, like Nightmare and Olme
Street for example. Four. You know, there was this cockroach
scene where the girl gets killed in a cockroach scene,
and so that's like the traumatic gross effect that I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
You know, I've seen all of the terrifiers in the
last week, so there's that.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Man, I haven't even seen the terrifiers.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
So it's not even scary. It's just gross. It's really
the best way to answer it. Like it's it's worth
watching if you like to cringe because how disgusting it is.
But that's about like that's a gist of it. Like
I don't think that it has like that natural horror
aspect to it.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
The terrifier or art the clown is itself. He plays
the role so well because he doesn't he doesn't talk
at all, so he really has to be a very
active kind of character to make it work, and he
does so I have to give props for that. But
this shows themselves and my opinion, aren't that great. Like

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being somebody who's a horror fan and it's the only
thing in it is gore. There's not really any scare
tactic to it.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Right. It feels like as the time, like for me,
is like as it the movies get older, it's it's
really getting hard to find that scare factor and that
you know that timing.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
And let's talk about that from from what you're doing now,
like as a actor in a haunted house, which this
year you're in a haunted trail, which is badass of
anybody who hasn't been child it is a lot of fun.
The bus is phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
It's been probably three years since I've been there, but
I remember having so much fun after I peed because
I was I had to peece so bad going in there.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
And if anybody wants to go to a hanted house
scared and get scared, don't have to pee really bad
because I swear the first twenty minutes, I didn't care
what jumped out of me. All I was foken is
and I was not pass in my pants because I
had a piece so bad. But as as an actor

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that does hauntings, like what are your triggers? Like what
is it that you're aiming at when you're going after somebody?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
So when I, like I said, I've been in the
industry for a very long time, so you want the
first thing you want to pay attention to is the energy,
and then of course the energy of the crowd. And
so when you hear people screaming, you know, you see
a lot Who's who's the people going to get scared?
And then also you gotta know you're timing. So when

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I say timing, it's like there's an art to it.
So it's like kind of like going hunting almost. You know,
you stick in your place and you know you're in position,
and then you figure out when they're coming, you know,
and then also what your surroundings too. So if you
have really like strokes, like when I worked at the Edge,

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I I took advantage of that to those strobe lights
or you know, if I had different you know, floor
effects I would take a take advantage of those. But
if you don't have those elements, you know, you gotta
It's all about the timing and so so a lot
of times it could be the people that are, you know,
in the front scared, or it could be the A

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lot of times it's the middle because again.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
How we went. We went to macabre, and I was
the leader because everyone was complaining. I was like, just
I told you guys in the beginning, just put me
in the front. I don't mind it. Occasionally I'll get
a little freaked out, but only because I literally can't

(29:46):
see anything and I'm having to touch the walls to
figure out where I'm going. That's it.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
But yeah, the maccab I do have a huge shout
out of maccob because I I do love the people
down there and also the actors, so huge shout out
to them.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
They were good man. It's funny because like we would
end up walking into a corner where there wasn't a door,
and like they would just come over and make fun
of you. Like I remember, like a couple of people
in our group are like, where's it, where's the door,
and they're They're like, well, you're you're hot, you're real
hot or like even though we weren't at all, just
like totally playing with us.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right. Is the scenes up there pretty nice too?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, dude, So they had the that Neon spinning wheel
and it was cool because yes, like the clown made
us switch up like the group, like because we had
our own way and they're like no, no, no, no no,
this person is going first now and they wouldn't let
us pass and Leslie did we did their way? Break

(30:52):
the ship out of my wife.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
The two clowns are, like I said, they're very they're
very talented too, you know, huge huge shout out with
them because I will sometimes again we'll sit there. It's
funny because one of them, I'm on Snapchat and so
I'll get to like hear some you know, funny stories
or some random in conversations they post in that room,
so I'll get a little bit of a laugh.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
So, but so you've basically your whole life's been around this.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Oh pretty much, it was. I'll tell you. It is
weird to say it's like a drug almost for me.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Because a dose of adrenaline.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Pretty much like I've tried. You know, there's been times
where I'm like, I'm ready to be done with it,
but it just seems like every year gets better or
something new, And I'm like, oh, you.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Know, but do you think it's is it like a
career option, like, because I feel like, is there benefits?
Is there insurance? Is there anything like that in it?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, from where I'm at, there's a lot. I say,
there's pretty good benefits, you know, from you know, from
where I'm working, that's good. But some places don't have
that type of you know, they may have some type
of insurance, but a lot of times it's, you know, again,
they don't. My guess is they don't. You know, it's
not it's not on the policy, if that makes sense, right.

(32:16):
But I'm just I'm just talking out of my ass
on it.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I don't want to lowball any of these other places
you worked at by any means. But what I've been
following Exiled for a while, I've been seeing the advertisements
about the one of the producers from the Saul films
coming out here. I know he did the Repo Man
Opera as well, or the Repo Opera. I can't remember
his name. What's his name? The guy who's running the

(32:42):
Exiled stuff is. Yes, I've been seeing some of his
stuff on the exile page and I feel like they
switched it up a lot this year. Man our biggest
and I know you probably weren't involved in the pricing.
Our biggest concern was in the beginning was how expensive,
like the different tiers were, right, but like I get

(33:03):
the experiences were different too, So like I knew that,
like we had to sign waivers like to actually get
touched and stuff like that. So I mean, are you guys,
are you guys getting to utilize those.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yes, there is you can you know with those waivers,
there are some actors that can touch you. But also
depends on what you're wearing, because again, you know, it
just there's somewhere if you wear like again, if you
wear like a girl, let's say you wear a green,
you know you're that's the one where you're just kind
of been. You can't be touched it really you could

(33:38):
get messed with, but it's very limited. So those you know,
those things are kind of like a boo for us.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
What do you think of what do you think of it?
Like doing outdoors compared to indoors.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's it brings a lot of memories back me because,
like I said when I first went down there, again,
this is just from being a boy scout and also
working you know with my dad, and so it was
just getting that feeling. Like I was telling one of
the managers, I'm like, this is like a mixture between

(34:18):
haunted houses and boy scouts to me being out in
you know, being out in the woods and you know,
doing all you know, it's having fun and so.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's good man. And you said, this is your first year.
You know. It's funny when COVID hit, they were planning
on doing a crampis uh haunted trail out there, like
for Christmas. They were going to do one and we
were so excited and then when the COVID hit, it
was like they just runned. It never happened. And I
remember reaching out to Exiled on Instagram a couple of

(34:53):
months ago and like, I have no idea what you're
talking about, just like it was like four years ago. Man,
what I was a good sern for this.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yes, actually brings back to this mask actually one of
the shows since we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
That, So, yeah, how how do you wear it?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
So it has it's the thing's broken, But I would
wear it like this, but the teeth would move so.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh okaylen was there like a garden there that opens
the shots?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah. So but again that was just you know, you
know stuff to you know, because that well, that year,
I was almost wanted to be done with it because
I was like, I don't really have any way to
scare anybody until you know, getting masks like that, and
then it scared people because I would move my mouth

(35:54):
with it, you know, right, and so but yeah, the
pandemic was a very interesting year. I'll say, we're going
to go into that storytelling. Yeah, it felt like a
combinedation between worlds of fun and mccobs cinema, the Beast
and edge of Hell, and it was and it kind

(36:15):
of felt like to me again, it's like everybody's fighting
for their jobs.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Well and as all hous is even considered an essential thing, probably.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
No, But you know, I think at that time it
was bringing that little bit of a holiday joy into
it because it also would get people to go out
because I know that was a very tough time for everybody.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I'm sure, you know, right, Yeah, I do think that
this year was better as far as the line is
being controlled down the West Bottoms because it's time frames
and like you have to go through a voucher station,
which is great because that means that the lines at
the actual each individual one because you have to go
to the waiver station, you get your waiver, and then

(37:00):
you go to whatever house.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
It's good because there was no lines. I remember a
couple of years back when there was a bunch of
shootings down there, and I was there that night before
they happened, and I remember the lines just being absurd.
Even if you had VIP, it was just impossible. Again,
it's the.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Traffic is just it's it's crazy. When but like I
said before, I'm like I said, I haven't worked down
there for a couple of years, but I know from
when I worked there, the traffic was huge. The condo
a nice. When I say condole lines, they're like we're
talking from ten to twenty people stuck in a room

(37:39):
or stuck up the stairs, and and it can with
that traffic. It's like getting stuck in car traffic almost
so and so. And when you're in one of the
bigger challenges as a performer is trying to entertain that
you know that condole and.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well and you got space, you have to space out
the groups, right, like, because if they get all crowded together,
it's probably a lot more difficult.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
It is, and you've got people that are getting you know,
getting mad, and then you know, and it's like, oh,
this could create a lot of tension and so but
you know, I'd say, if you can make it, if
you can make them laugh, that's awesome. But if you
can sit there and scare them, that's even gonna help too. Yeah,
So it's just being able to try to create that entertainment,

(38:27):
you know, that time being.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, so have you are you pretty close with a
lot of like the families and the owners of a
lot of these places, I know them.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
They know well. The owners I got you know, a
decent relationship with and so like I said, but with
the managers, I have a you know, I got a
good report with a couple one like I said, without
low Barn it wasn't really the most mutual if that

(39:00):
makes sense. Like when you so when I say, like
neutraal like basically business wise, for you know, how you're
trying as a performer, you're trying to like excel, you're
trying to get better, you know, trying to yeah, trying
to show, you know, to become better as an actor.
And then but it becomes to where one side is

(39:21):
not give me. I guess would say they they know
you're very talented, but it's also you're gonna you know,
it's not really you're not going to grow. I don't
know how to put that. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, no, it makes sense. I wouldn't really, I can't
really think of a way better way to describe it.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
So, but it's a like it was it was, I
would say, I was it was becoming to where I
guess like this, it was becoming to a position where
there was no challenges for me, and then it was
all becoming a job. Yeah that makes sense. And so
how I what I see is when I make money
is if you show passion and you find the things

(40:02):
that you enjoy doing, you're gonna make more money.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Oh yeah, that's the way. That's my work, thattic you
know so, And and when you do that, you know
they're gonna leave. That's where you're gonna get paid more.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Right, And that's I mean, is it? I mean, is
it decent wages? I mean, obviously we don't have to
talk numbers here, but I mean, is it decent wages
to be an actor and on als for compared to
other jobs out there, I'd.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Say it really depends on your position and so so,
and also what spot you're at, because when I, like
I said, when I worked, let's say at the edge,
I was getting max paid there because but I'm not
sure what the paid you know, the pay the pay raise, well,

(40:55):
the pays over there. I just think, you know, because
again during that time, the pay was always different, like
five years ago whenever you know, the max pay was
like eleven fifty you know. Yeah, so because of the
wage increase, it's between it could be between like seventeen
dollars an hour, which is you know, it's decent, but

(41:19):
that's right. But I can say is the place I'm
at now, I'm I'm making more, you know, which you know, you're.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Also delivering a different experience too, I mean, like I
feel like the whole like the physical aspect of it,
and knowing that they can touch you and stuff kind
of adds a whole other element of scare. Right, and
you're outdoors, I mean, you have a great guy helping
produce and direct the whole thing, and apparently you've got

(41:48):
celebrities coming out there now too.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah nine visited and some lady actress from California came
out or something like that, going, yeah, did you get
to meet them? I?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, actually did. I didn't meet Tech nine, but I
didn't meet well, didn't really meet, but I encountered her.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
You know, yeah, I gotta I gotta scream out of her.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
It's fine, right, that's good dude, that's good man. I'm
glad that you're enjoying it. Have you had any other
crazy paranormal experiences like like.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Down there yeah, or there there?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
No, apparently there's actually a cliff is that right? In
ex like in those woods if you get too far,
there's actually a cliff.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I honestly don't know. I am.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
So you really have to explore huh you haven't really
explored a whole lot of it.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
No, uh well the first I actually, like maybe a
few weeks ago, is the first time I actually checked,
you know, got to go through the trail. Oh wow, yeah,
and it was it was pretty cool. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
I was like, it's it's fun, man. I remember a
lot like really enjoying it. There's only a couple trail
haunts in the city, and that's the I mean, that's
the biggest of them. That's probably the closest to like
a like a west Bottom's Haunted House. There's one in
Buckner and Missouri. It's called like the Dark Woods or

(43:23):
something dark something, And we've done it a couple of
times just because it's cheap. It's like fifteen bucks and uh,
it's it's good, but it's it's I mean, it doesn't
even get close to Eggsiled.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
One of the cool things I could say, like with Exile,
is it again it brings out that old school you
know scare. You know where a lot of places, like
for me when I worked at the Edge and there
was all there was a lot of people using a
lot of jump scare tactics. Yeah, and so they again

(43:58):
you can it works, you know, but it you know,
it's nice to if you're going to you know, be
able to do more in just a jump scare because
there's gonna be customers out there, gonna be walking there.
If you're just gonna jump at them and then go
back to your spot, you know that really just there's
gonna be something that's just again you're you're killing the

(44:18):
theater to it. So so of course, you know when
I when I was you know, at that time, I
was managing, and I try to bring some of that
theater into it. So, like I gave you example, one
of them was this uh, this mirror lady, and all
she did was swing in a chair, and I was like,

(44:38):
that's pretty boring, you know, And I was just pretty
upfront about it, and I'm like, you know, how about
you just act crazy and just start yelling at people,
you know, you know, so she would just go at
it in that mirror and just start see.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
That would be fun though, I could totally get into that.
But what about like so exiled, what do you think
differs most for for your experience compared to doing the
hot houses?

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Oh, truthfully, we have a lot of top notch actors.
So when I say and when I speak on that,
you know, again because I've worked in both communities, from
the hot community and also the acting community, there's a
very a lot of very talented people in that pool.
So they're being able to you know, not only you know,
be a character, but also being able to entertain and

(45:29):
also you know, bringing that you know, that character into
magic without just being just a jump scare and so
and then but also applying a story, so they have
a character in the story. Is that hopefully like.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, so all the characters in there are part of
a story to do with what is it Exiled's theme
this year? Is it wicked woods or.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Something that, oh, crooked woods.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Woods, whatever, and something to do with woods.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Right, you're good.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, there's a theme to it. So that's that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And again it's just depending on the way. I probably
the best way to put it is, you know, it's
like going through a horror your own horror movie, and
you create your own story and the farther you go
into it is again that's you know, depends on what
you're going to pay, and then also what's your experiences

(46:32):
and you know, I definitely highly recommend anybody to go
check it out, oh idea and so and again right now,
it was the second tier was about one hundred bucks,
but now it's went down to sixty and that's you
and that's for both the trail and the carnival. So

(46:54):
that is and again, you're.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Isn't the only difference between the two tier and the
three tiers That three tier gets like alcohol.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, the two tiers you can get alcohol. But like
I said, again, it's just actually, yeah, there's the two
tiers you can get alcohol. But again I could be wrong, but.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Just come drunk people, Okay, yeah, I just come drunk,
have some fun. You know. That's good man. Uh uh.
You know, it's fun to be able to kind of
talk to somebody like you because you know, I've done
a lot of hot houses and and I've never had
the opportunity to sit down with somebody who's that on
the other end, to be the one scaring the people.

(47:40):
Have you ever have you ever felt sorry because you
scared somebody so bad?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Actually, well once this was kind of my go to
hell story. And again no, this was probably like high school.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
And this was like I was me and my buddy Dylan,
you know, I had this like yeah, don't yeah, this
project and we thought maybe doing like some jackass you
know video, and so we would go around, we had

(48:17):
had this like weird mask. We'd go around, jumped and
scared people. So again, we were right next to the
s bedroom, you know, like you know, the very low
motor you know kids, you know, So us sitting there

(48:39):
in that room, Well, we we're scaring people. And apparently
one of the kids went in and got scared so
bad he punched his teacher. So of course she's running
right into the into the nursing, you know, the nursing

(49:00):
the nurses room and right and there's also the nurses
room right next to us too, and so I just
remember the nurse yelling at us. They had stuff blaming,
blaming with us for scaring them because uh, the teacher
got punched, and so I at that time, I felt bad,

(49:24):
you know, I was like, wow, so no, I was
bad to wear. I like, I want to go home,
I am.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I remember in seventh grade social studies, I had uh
we had a special needs kid, and they had like
their para teacher or whatever, and I remember raising my
hands to tell a joke and I said that, you know,
NASA means that they need another seven astronauts, yea and yeah,

(49:53):
and some of the class laughed, and then the para
teacher looks at me with this dead stare, and they
pulled me from the classroom and she's like, you need
to think about what you're saying and the crowd that
you're talking to, because my son was actually prastice sing
to be an astronaut in NASA and he died during training,

(50:13):
and it's like made me feel like the biggest piece of
shit for doing like a little Nassa joke. I felt
so bad, man, I felt so But I still think
about it.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, right, it's and that's all. And then again it's
like those little things. It's like, oh, ship man, that
was a go to hell move for me.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yes, that was definitely one of those moments.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah. But yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Do you still do you just still dabble in like
the acting side of it too, I mean you still
act in new film?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Oh yeah, I actually right now, it's funny story. Funny
story talking about that. I was actually not only work
that exile, but I was also acting for a feature
film on those same weekends. So Son is the.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
One they're working on right now.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Is it the lifetime film they're working.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
On right now? It's like like a Hallmark.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
It's called a Girl in the Garage or something that.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, it's a Southern Fried romance.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Oh okay, see I've heard of that.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
So I'm playing in that film. I got a supportive role,
so I So it's pretty much been crazy acting at night,
you know, doing exile and then waking up super early
in the morning, you know, acting in that movie. So
it's been.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
So you're in other words, you're getting a ton of sleep.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Oh maybe lucky, maybe four to five.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
On a Wednesday or Thursday, maybe you get your twelve
hours of sleep.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's my like recharge days. And I'm like.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
State in or pajamas, don't leave the house, curtains.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
And then junk food.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah. Are you a big like movie connoiseur too? Do
you like a lot of horror films?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Oh? Like you said, movie concerts.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Kind of sewer like a big like you you enjoy
watching a bunch of horror films?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Or no, I do not, not really anything new particular.
I've kind of got to where I'm burned out seeing
like you know, just new new things being added. It's
kind of like, you know, but there's a couple exceptions,
like the new alien movie that came out this year.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
So was that pretty good? It was good?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Was great, It's it's not what was great. I loved
about it. It actually brought that old feeling of alien back. Okay,
that's good. So that to me that was good. And
then also a year ago was saw ten, I think
saw X and so that was a really good one

(53:09):
in my book. So okay, so it was those are
the two that I would say. But as for like
like new things wise, like the like the new hell
Raiser they had they they came out. I didn't really
watch that. I think it was called.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
I know it's on Who. It's on Hulu Who. Actually,
my wife I were discussing watching it recently. We haven't
done it yet. The original hell Railers. Hell Raisers were fantastic.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Oh yeah, like the first to me, the first one,
first one through the fourth one were my favorites there.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
So I had an experience watching the hell Raisers and
this even today bugs me. And the reason it bugs
me is so I lived in an apartment in Colorado
back in twenty eleven, and we're binging the hell Raiser
movies and at some point I fell asleep in the
living room. My buddy was on like the recliner, and

(54:06):
I remember the whole night. I remember I was facing
the back of the couch, but I was vividly seeing
the living room and the TV playing the movie, and
I kept like there'd be a scene that was scary,
and I remember i'd like open my eyes and turn
my head from the back of the couch to the TV,

(54:29):
and I'm like, I'm literally visualizing the whole thing as
it's happening. And then I turned back and I'm trying
to doze back off, and it happens again, and I'm like,
I'm seeing the TV. But then other things start happening
in the apartment. I start noticing, like people walking around
to the kitchen that aren't really there, and then I'd

(54:51):
wake up because something would happened, and and then I'd
turn around to see and they want to be there,
But the TV be playing the same scenes that I'm
like visualizing while I'm sleep. It was absolutely absurd. And
then the next day, so it was just me and
my roommate, he was passed out on the requiner. We
both said the same thing that we were experiencing the
exact same thing, and it was during watching the hell

(55:13):
Racer films. But again, I think it's kind of one
of those things where you're like dabbling in negative energy,
so like it's as possible that you're drawing this kind
of stuff towards you.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yeah, yeah, I believe that. Yeah. Another funny story, I
actually was staying at a living an old friend's house,
and next door was a church and these are you know,
again nothing against anybody that's religious, but they were a

(55:48):
Christian family. Of course, every night I would play a
horror film every night before going to bed, to everybody's screaming. Yeah,
you know, this shows how much I love horror films,
you know, whether if it was like Nightmare and Nolme Street,
Hell razor Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Have you ever seen the movie Dead Alive? No, I haven't, Okay,
it's on YouTube now. It's it's nineteen ninety two film
from New Zealand. The creator of the original King Kong
did this film and basically it starts out with the
zoo keeper on School Island where King Kong's from, and
captures this rat monkey and he's bringing it back to

(56:32):
New Zealand to put in the zoo. And then it
fast forwards to this guy's on a date and his
mom's spying on him on his date and she gets
bit by this rat monkey that's affected with the zombie virus. Yeah,
so he takes her his mom home and she starts
turning and he's like babysitting her baby. Basically, and like

(56:53):
he has nurses come over and check on her, and
like she turns the nurse and like this whole film
is based inside this one mansion basically, And so eventually
his uncle shows up and sees his mom that he's
been nursing. He's like, well haven't you buried or yet?
You better fucking you know. He calls them Morgan all

(57:15):
this stuff, and he's like, I'm taking over this house.
And he throws a big party, and so his mom
and the nurse and there's like a couple other that
he's gathered over time, and he's like babysitting all of
these zombies get loose and like the whole party turns
to zombies. But you can't kill him, Like it's not
just to you know, shoot him in the head or

(57:36):
stab him in the head. They don't die. And I
don't want to give away too many details because some
of the scenes where he's like killing him are so brutal.
But it's like a spoof kind of comedy. It's like
got comedy to it. It's good. I recommend it if
you like more classic zombie films.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
You know what my favorite ones were? What's that another one?
I forgot you mentioned Hills of Eyes.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Oh, yes, man, I feel like it's very I feel
like it's realistic. Man, I feel like those that kind
of stuff exists.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Well it's uh they make films like that based on
like true stories too, and we're like families up there,
like you know, you know, stranded out of nowhere, and
then you have your you know, vehicle breakdown, and then
you have people to you know, out there, you know,
keeping an eye on you. And one of the cool

(58:30):
things like I could say, like what Wes crag Again?
I think Wes Craven was pretty you know, pretty amazing
doing this, but it's setting all these booby traps in
his films.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yes, what Wes Craven Eyes? So I have a more
acquaintances once they were friends, like we we keep in touch.
His name is Mark Scheffler. Wes Craven did a film
called Last House on the Left.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Yeah, have you heard of it? I heard of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
So the original is like early eighties or late seventies.
One of the main characters name is Mark Sheffler. Now
he's a comedian, he's older, he lives in California. I've
had him on the show. But that's a great one too,
he said. He said, Wes Craven is awesome, dude. Just
the fact that you got to shooting a film with him,
meet the guys awesome. So yeah, I agree. A lot

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of your older horror films, man, are really good. House
on Haunted Hill I thought was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
The original on the the remake, but I thought they
were pretty good, the two of them.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yeah, thirteen Ghosts, that was decent. Yeah, but yeah, man,
what's coming? I mean, how many? You only got two
more weeks at Exiled, right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm debating on
if I'm gonna come out there. Man, I'm debating on it.
I really should.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
You should at least give it a shot. Again, that's
a I haven't been through. Like I said, the Trail Terrors,
I can't speak on that, but I know that they
did a lot of different stuff this year. Like I said,
I highly recommend people checking it out. We've been getting
pretty good review there's been pretty good reviews feedback. I

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think again, it's been a lot very different from the
you know, the hot cultures that I've worked in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yes, and I guess as we wrap this up, I mean,
is this something that you think you'll do again next year,
or do you do you like to kind of switch
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I think that is a really good question. It's again,
it's just I'm you know, I'm sure it's going to
draw me back in, but also to see if they
you know, if they're you know, the interest is again
wanted me to come back, and so, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I would really like for them to do that. I
think a Christmas themed horror trail would be awesome. They
were talking about doing a crampist like Christmas themeed haunted
trails and this was when COVID hit and like it
sounded fucking phenomenal, and I think that's an experience people
don't get to get in haunted houses. I really think

(01:01:16):
that they should look into doing that because I that
would draw in a hell of the craft.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, for sure. I think like everybody loves to bring,
you know, having more a little bit more Halloween like
even outside. But the problem, I think the biggest problem
is is the fact that you know, business, you know,
because when you're like the after the season's over, you know,
there's not it's really hard to get people drawed in
from that holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Well, I feel like there's there's a lot of newer
films though, like even kid films like a Monster House,
paran Norman. Uh well, I guess ParaNorman not so much,
but like Nightmare, Nightmare before Christmas, I feel like they're
starting to almost blame the holidays in some films.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And I don't think Also, immersion theater is becoming a
big deal too. Yes, like and so and again that's maybe. Again,
I don't know how long it's been, but it's been
for me. I've only been been familiar with it for
a couple few years, but it's been a big hit
to where like I said, it's been you know, being

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able to get people to come in and you know,
not only get that, you know, that entertainment, but also
see you know, having that engagement with those characters.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
So that's good. As long as nobody, you know, gets inappropriate,
I think everybody's gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Well, that's again, that's that's where you kind of blame
the writers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Have you condress provocative. You can't be mad if something right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
It's like, don't blame the dialogue.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
That's good man, Hey dude, uh man, Dold, and I
really appreciate you having have you coming on today? Even
what's even coolers you're just another local, you know, you
live in the area. It's fantastic. I have people from
all over the world. It's kind of nice to be
able to build a bigger network in town. And I

(01:03:23):
think recently I have a lot more actors and film
directors and I've been in touch with shout out to
Kyle Lamant for Actually that's how I got your name,
along with several others. And it's good man. I'm I'm
excited to see where my show goes orre my network goes,
and I appreciate you being a part of it today.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Man, Oh, not a problem, Like I said, I think
it's just, you know, if it's a good note. I
think podcasting has been a big, you know, big hit,
you know, just especially when for locals even for to
be able to for network themselves but also network with
you and so in it, I feel, you know, and
also to you know, getting that makes me appreciate more

(01:04:08):
from the you know, the small things, even like the
smaller you know, the smaller podcast you know. That Does
that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that's what I am.
That's what this network is, man. I mean we're building
into something bigger, but It's just it's about building a
community and I've done I've been doing it for four years. Man.
Like I said, I have reach for several countries. I've
got contacts, you know, it's I've got people over there.
I've got two other or three other admins that helped
me with this network, and it's it's just it's something

(01:04:36):
I enjoy doing and I think I have a good
voice for it. And I haven't had any complaints yet,
so I'm just gonna keep doing it. Man. This is
this is my guys in night out. I don't like
go to the bars like i'might, Hey, I'm gonna go
downstairs for a bit. Sometimes I'll have a beer. Sometimes
they don't. But this is me enjoying myself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Right, And I think it's also pretty cool. You've done
you know again, you've you've done it really good job,
you know, just you know, chat and engaging, asking your questions.
I'm anna, I'll just say I'm an a typical you know,
I'm autistic here. So yeah, so it's already you know,
tough for me to sit there and like you know

(01:05:15):
at you know, go through the questions and yeah, did
a really good job, you know, helping me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, good good man, That's that's what I'm here for.
And when you messed me earlier about doing the show,
I was like yeah, and then you I'm pretty the
next week and how about tonight, I'm doing. That's another thing.
I don't really do scripted. You know. I got a
true crime pot. I got like nineteen podcasts on this network,

(01:05:41):
and I host four of them, and one of them
is a true crime one. That's the only one that
I do script And I wouldn't even say script. It's
more like I have to take notes because whatever crime
I research, I need notes for it. But other than that,
everything's unscripted. I like having that raw interaction with people
because it makes a great content. And when I'm when
I'm making clips, it's also great content. And yeah, dude,

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it's just I love doing it, man. I can't. I can't.
I can't. My wife knows I love doing it, and
she she hates that. I love doing it so much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
It's a special like a special interest, you know, And
so like for me, like filming and acting, I could
be doing it all day. Some people be probably annoyed,
like telling me to stop. I'm like, no, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yeah, and it's kind of like seeing the final product too,
and you're like, man, that was good. That turned out
so and then like you feel better about it knowing
that the outcome of it was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
For sure. And I always like, I don't know, like
I I like the final of it, but I'm also like,
I gotta let's see if I can do it better.
Or I always critique it, right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
I always, I always re listen to the episode, so
I'm like, well, maybe I could have said this instead
of that, or maybe I could have maybe next time
I'll ask this. And it's fine. I mean, it's it's
just a way how I learned and I move forward.
And if you listened to my episodes three years ago,
I'm a hell of a lot better now than I
was three years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
It just takes, you know, the practice of our craft, right,
and so the more we do it, the more we're
again it takes more we master it in the more
and again it's we all even though if we slip,
but like again, like I'm sure like we have conversations
like this live. There's always going to be that drop
of the ball, but it's also learning to pick it up,

(01:07:37):
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Right, dead air. I call it dead air. Like for me,
it's like, I don't care if there's mistakes. I don't
care if there's Wi Fi issues are buffering. We're doing
a live stream show. It's gonna happen, and it does.
I think filling the void unless the power completely goes out,
then there's literally nothing I can do. Guys, sorry, but

(01:07:58):
filling that dead air or making comedy off of the
fact that it's messing up, that's you have to have
that aspect, because if you don't, then it's just random
two minutes of oh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
You got at least to be entertaining the people that
are listening or watching while it's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
This elevator music, another.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Countdown in the middle of the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah, yeah, we'll do this random commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Well dn't man, it's been wonderful me to you. I
definitely want to stay in touch. Like I said, I
have a lot of shows. You're welcome to come on
other ones. I'm actually recently started adding the shows to IMDb,
so my IMDb profile is going to be really good
because I've got a lot of shows. This show in
particular has got almost two hundred episodes, and then I've
got like three other shows, but then I also produce

(01:08:57):
and directed the other nineteen of them, so I'm slowly
adding them and IMDb. If anybody's ever used it as
kind of a pain in the ass getting the stuff
set up, but then once it's set up, it's pretty
easy to go in and address of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
That's a yeah for sure, go ahead. Oh, I said
it was a good chat with you too, And I
said I would like to if I get some ideas,
I'd love to, you know, talk more.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah, dude, Yeah. We have a conspiracy theory podcast, got
a true crime podcast. I've got other comedy podcasts, and
it's just it's it's all about just having a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
We even do improp skits too that are a lot
of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Just going around just random bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
So have you ever seen Whose Line Is It? Anyways?
The show?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I'm gonna tell you, I'm like a caveman to my house.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Have you ever seen the show Whose Lines Anyways?

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Is that? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
It used to be Drew I think so Drew Carrey
used to host it and there be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Like three different actors on it and they would do
like a little skit, get together, say some random stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
So what I do is is I I've met a
lot of comedians doing this. What I do is I
get like three or four comedians or podcasters or actors
that I've met, and I one week, I'll say, Okay,
here's the here's the scenario, and I'll do like a
messenger group, a Facebook messenger group, and I'll say, here's
your scenarios. Each of you need to send me three
one minute skits and however you want, and then I

(01:10:37):
make a short film out of everybody's skits whatever like
they send me. And it's good for me because the
reason I started doing it is because it tests me
and it really kind of helps me with like the
editing process of what I do, and the outcome of
it just is always so much fun. We did one
called Paranormal Hunters, and that we were investigating a house

(01:10:59):
where there's a couple who used to throw orgies, except
somebody poisoned the lubricant and everybody died, so we were
doing an investigation. It's only like an eight minute skit,
but it was just it was just fun, man, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
But I bet that was just laugh my fucking ass
off them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Oh it's good. I'll send you a link to it
because it's fun. It's only like eight minutes long. It's
worth a watch. But you're welcome to do those. We
do those every now and then too. I call them
burn after playing there's the short short skits. I think
I'm gonna start calling them short films now that I'm
kinda get more than IMDb. But do this so much fun.
The last one we did was called the k and

(01:11:50):
I did it almost like a documentary setup. So basically,
my team was called to a town because there were
multiple reports of people missing their teeth and there was
people were saying that the tooth Fairy was showing up
and stealing people's teeth. So we were our crew went

(01:12:10):
to the town to try and hunt down the tooth Fairy.
It's just stupid fun, man, It's stupid, but it's fun.
But you're welcome to do some of those with us. Man.
It's a lot of fun. Everything we do on this
network is just to have a good time and entertain people.
Social media has been a huge impact. Instagram, Facebook, Actually

(01:12:36):
most of my views are on Facebook, So you guys
on Facebook, big shout out to you guys. Rumble is
starting to take off, and it's it's just I mean,
knowing that people were watching this stuff and enjoying the
content and I'm meeting people like you and just kind
of growing. It feels good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I wanted to also say a huge shout out to
Brett Kyle and then all some Maurice you know on here.
So yeah, you know again having those where those guys
on here pretty much influenced me to get in here
because good dude, you know, more people can get on
board because again, this is fun. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Thank you. Yeah, that's what it's about. Uh. You know,
I've had people come on here like nervous before we
live and I'm like, I promise you by the end
of this year're gonna want to do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Yeah that's some feeling, like I could probably do this
for another hour. You know, just bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
We've done all I've done the most absurd stuff too,
Like we did a hot challenge one time, so there
was three of us. There's a guy called the Hot
Sauce Boss on TikTok. I actually met him through weed
Man from Jackass, and I said, Hey, I want to
do a show and and I want you to come
on and he's like, Okay, what are we eating? So

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we did ghost pepper noodles and we did something called
the Toave Satan and the Toave of Satan's like the
lot at sucker in the world, and it was it
was just so fun.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
There's just four guys just burning the ship out of
their mouths for like an hour and a half. But
people watch it. People enjoy it. Man. It's fun. Man,
I can't complain. So, yeah, well, I'll definitely have you
back on. Man, these this stuff's a lot of fun.
So I'd be happy to have you back on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Dude, for sure. And then I said, uh, like I said,
I'll keep me posted if you get a slot open, Yeah,
if we just just talk about whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, man, yeah, of course. I don't know how it
really get up. But sometimes they do early shows.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Too, mm hmm yeah, early coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
All right, everybody that's been tuning in, or everybody's gonna
tune in later on. We appreciate you. Guys. Check out
Dalton Weaver. You can find them on IMDb, can find
them on Facebook. He's got films out there. I'm sure
they're probably on some of the platforms, and uh, check
him out. Of exiled Man. He only got weeks left.
If you're in the KANSASIT area, go check them out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Man. Also a huge shout out to anybody that's watching
this right now. So I just want to see thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Yes. Until next time, everybody will see