High Stakes Treason | Ian Trotter & John Donovan

This episode unites two voices exposing treason at the highest levels: John Donovan, a former FBI agent and OSINT analyst whose discoveries prefigured Edward Snowden’s revelations, and Ian Hamilton Trottier, author of High Stakes Treason: How John Brennan Compromised American Security for Millions.

Together, they unravel how former CIA Director John O. Brennan weaponized U.S. intelligence: from shielding terror suspects to laundering billions through CIA-tied corporations, to orchestrating election interference and color revolutions. With forewords by Roger Stone, Brooks Agnew, and John Kiriakou as backdrop, we examine Brennan’s treason not as speculation—but as a coordinated betrayal of the American people.

Presented in partnership with: American Made Foundation & American Made Action
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Mister Brennan that loyal Republicans, that patriotic Republicans speak out.
Some actually did begin to speak out in my former party,
not as many as I would have liked, but it
seems that yesterday was a moment that triggered many to
finally say the president had gone too far. What do

(00:31):
you believe in the best interest not only of America's
intel agencies, but also in the best interests of America's
national security. Did those patriotic Republicans need to do today
on the hill?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, I think there's a big question, first of all,
in terms of those who are on mister Trump's national
security team, whether they can continue to serve in good
conscience an individual who basically portrayed his nation.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Let me ask you, I don't know if you've seen this.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
I don't want to blindside you with this. This is
a this is the latest statement, latest tweets.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
As you were just saying President Elect's latest unsolicited pronouncement
on the intelligence community, this was his treat just a
little while ago. Tonight you see the scare quotes there.
The intelligence briefing on so called Russian hacking was delayed
until Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange.
We're actually told intelligence.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sources tell NBC News since this tweet has been posted
that actually this intelligence briefing for the President elect was
always planned for Friday. It hasn't been delayed because he's
taking these shots, antagonisms, taunting to the intelligence tunity.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways
for Sunday at getting back at you. So even for
a practical, supposedly hard nos businessman, he's being really dumb
to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
What do you think the intelligence community would do if
they were mine?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
I don't know, but I from what I am told,
they are very upset with how he has treated them
and talked about them. And we need the intelligence community.
We don't know what's go Look at the Russian hacking.
Without the intelligence community, we wouldn't have discovered it.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Do you think he has an agenda to try to
dismantle parts of the intelligence community?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean this form of hostile.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Whether you're a super liberal Democrat or a very conservative Republican,
you should be against dismantling.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
The intelligence.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
And good afternoon, everybody. I'm in Vandersteel and you are
now entering the information war zone here on Steel News.
In twenty thirteen, Edward Snowden revealed to the world what
many had long suspected that the CIA and no such agency,
the NSA, were not simply defending Americans, but they were

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spying on us and our allies at a scale that
defied imagination. But the real story wasn't just about surveillance.
It was about betrayal from within. At the center of
that betrayal stands one man, John O. Brennan, the former
director of the c LIA. Roger Stone calls him the

(04:06):
greatest villain of the twentieth century. Brooks Agnew reveals how
Brennan used the CIA as the financial empire, a laundering
cartel excuse me, laundering cartel and drug money through multi
national corporations that moved worldwide. And John Kerriaku, the CIA
officer who blew the whistle on torture, reminds us that

(04:27):
Brennan weaponized the Espionage Act against patriots and truth tellers. Today,
we're going to be connecting the dots across Brennan's career,
from approving visas for the nine to eleven hijackers to
hiding signals intelligence that could have stopped and dares Brevick
and the Boston Bombers to interfering in the twenty twenty election.

(04:47):
With us are two men who have trafficked, excuse me,
have tracked these betrayals firsthand, whistle blower John Donovan and
author Ian Trotier. Together they're going to help us answer
the question has Brennan treason been fully exposed? And will
America ever deliver justice? Joining me now is the author
of the new book out today, High Stakes Treason, Ian Trotier,

(05:10):
and the whistleblower that brings this book to life, John Donovan.
It is great to have you, gentlemen, here with me
this afternoon. I've been looking forward to this interview for
a long time. In fact, I'm sitting here with your
book still on my desk because it has been a
page gener I actually bought it not only paperback, but
I also got the electronic version so I can read
it on my kindle or on wherever my device is

(05:32):
because I can't believe most of the stuff I'm reading,
even though it's all osent open source intelligence. It's quite remarkable.
So thank you for being here today. How are you
guys doing. I'm gonna start with John first, because You're
the whistleblower on this, and it's always refreshing to speak
to somebody from the intelligence world that can actually now
come out of the closet, so to speak.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Thanks San, I really owe exposing all this to Ian.
I'm the kind of guy who does the investigation. Look
at all the details I checked, you know, I dot
my eyes had crossed my t's. But I'm not the
person to bring it to the public for them to
understand exactly what happened. And Ian has been the one

(06:13):
carrying that load, especially with getting this book published and
getting the message out there. I was an FBI agent
for about twelve years nineteen eighty eight to two thousand,
so I've been out of the bureau for twenty five
years now. Once I left the Bureau, I used the

(06:33):
skills they taught me to be an open source intelligence
analyst for commercial clients, large banks, insurance companies. They want
to know what people are thinking about them online and
what people online are planning to do which might cause
them a problem, right, and that's what I was doing.
In twenty eleven, there was the terrorist attack in Oslo,

(06:58):
Norway and Utoya in Norway by Anders Breevic and he
published a manifesto, and my clients they don't want to
be blown up either, right, So I'm like, okay, I'll
take a look at what he wrote. He wrote a
very long manifesto, and I was like, oh my gosh,
it's fifteen hundred pages long. I don't want to read
this whole thing.

Speaker 8 (07:17):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Do I find out as quickly as possible what he
did to plan for this? So I use you know,
your your search function control FS. I typed in the
word preparation and there was Breevik's entire preparation diary at
the end of his manifesto. And as I read that,
I found out that, based on my experience working for

(07:40):
the Bureau, there's no way US intelligence didn't know about
this guy at least six months in advance. And I
wrote up my analysis of what he put in there
and said, hey, the US government must have known about this.
These are the movements of Habinet secretaries in the Obama

(08:01):
cabinet that indicate they were able to review his diary
prior to it being published, which means that someone put
a keylogger on the guy's computer and this was a crime.
I sent that into the FBI four days after the
terrorist attack. Two things happened the next day which were

(08:24):
very important. What was really important to me, I got fired.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
A telltale sign you were doing the right thing right.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
And the second thing that happened was that every single
US news media outlet ceased reporting on the Norway attack
on the twenty seventh of July twenty eleven, and that
was for me, that was confirmation, Okay, I was over
the target. It embarrassed the administration so much that they

(08:53):
ordered US media to not cover it, and you know,
then I had to work on getting myself another I
was unemployed for two years actually, but during that time
I still looked out for open source information related to
the attack. And as you mentioned earlier, Edward Snowden published

(09:17):
or revealed in twenty thirteen the capabilities of the National
Security Agency in collection collecting online information. And one of
the things they revealed or he revealed, was the NSA
had one hundred percent coverage of all Internet activity in
Norway since February of two thousand and eight. Brevik didn't

(09:42):
start looking up how to make the instructions out had
to make a car bomb until twenty ten, so I
was I was at a loss at how is it
possible the NSA did not notify our NATO ally while
that ally had troops fighting with the United States in
Afghanistan under Article five of the NATO Treaty. Sure, and

(10:07):
because I was working alone, it took me a while
to figure out exactly why they weren't able to do that. Then,
of course, a short time later, or actually prior to
Snowden's release, was the Boston marathon bombing, and there were

(10:27):
a number of statements made in the press about why
they didn't stop the Boston marathon bombing. Oh, we didn't
know he traveled to Russia, you know. And I was like,
there's no way that the NSA missed this stuff. And
then it finally occurred to me that the way that

(10:48):
would have happened was if someone took the signals intelligence
they collected and put it into a code word compartment file.
Once that is done in the intelligence community, the only
person allowed to give you access to it is the
person who opened the file. And I was like, well,

(11:09):
who would have been the person to transmit this information?
The intelligence was gathered to the Obama administration, to the
President right, and of course it was the National Security
Advisor for counter terrorism John Brennan. Then I started doing
the timeline analysis of John Brennan's life, which produced the

(11:31):
book eventually. And that's when I noticed that he'd been
meeting with one particular person in the months and weeks
prior to those three terrorist attacks, and that one person's
name was Michael Jones. And I'm like, well, who's Michael Jones?
And I looked it up on LinkedIn and Michael Jones

(11:54):
was an intelligence analyst for the State Department who appears
to have been detailed to work for the National counter
Terrorism Center. And John Brennan was the person who brought
into the National counter Terrorism Center inexperienced intelligence analysts from
organizations like the State Department. I was like, ah, so

(12:17):
Michael Jones was the cutout that Brennan was using, and he.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
Had young and dumb. He likes him young and dumb, right, So, well.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
You know, you're you're a young person. You think that
the management is got your best interests at heart and they're.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Not going to lie to you, right.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
But the interesting thing about Jones was two months after
the Boston marathon bombing, he resigns from the United States
government twenty years shy of his retirement and at the
peak of his professional game, he's literally his stuff is

(12:55):
going to the president. You don't get any more advanced
than that as an intelligence an list in your career. Right,
But he decides to quit and run away.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
I guess you know your your His heart was heavy,
you know, I think he realized what he was all
tangled up. And you know, this is a great, you know,
introduction for why you who you are and what you
did in order to contribute to this book. And this
book is full of information and again it's open source information,
which I think you.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Sorry, no classified information.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
No no, no, no, no no. But Ian knows as a journalist,
and you know, Ian has been probably one of the
most how do we say this, Ian, You're like a
dog with a chew toy. Since I first met you.
Once you sink your teeth into something, you don't quit
until you finally get what you're looking for. And you know,
you are prolific at keeping up with people, knowing who
they are, putting people together, connecting people. And I think

(13:54):
you need to talk to this person and you'll go
over to somebody else. You need to put these two
people together. You really are what I would consider a
pure to a journalist at heart. You don't do it
because you want the fame and glory. You do it
because you actually want to solve, you know, get to
the truth and solve problems. And you know, there's something
that popped up on X the other day, and I'm
going to put it up here because I want Ian
to comment on this. But this came out of an

(14:14):
account where you know the pros of it, says I
finally sat down and read through the documents that Telsea
Gabbert released, and there's no escaping it. Obama, James Coming,
John Brennan, James Clapper, Susan Rice, and other officials committed treason.
The new release from OD and I confirms once and
for all, the Russia collusion hoax was an attempted coup
against an incoming president of the United States pre and

(14:37):
post presidency. It's over. They are cooked. Obama ordered to
hide these documents showing his own internal intelligence assessments indicating
there was no evidence whatsoever of Russian vote manipulation or
cyber threats to election infrastructure, and they fabricated a slew
of evidence to feed the narrative that Trump was working
with Russia. Now it's time to go to jail. I

(15:00):
you know, like I said, you've been a dog with
a chew toy on this subject now since I've met you,
and uh, you know, this book is I would say,
you know, sort of I don't want to say the
pinnacle of your career, but it certainly is a highlight
of your career of what your body of work and
working with someone like John Donovan. Tell me a little
bit about the process for you, and then we're going
to dive into this book because this book is incredible.

Speaker 8 (15:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (15:19):
And so look, I also think in regards to that tweet,
I've just been told that Caroline uh Krass uh brendan
lawyer has now got some some dirt that that's been exposed.
That's that's a recent development. And and I just for
for your viewers and listeners understand, I just met with
uh with with Brad Bedford. He's the c COO of Newsmax.

(15:44):
Rob Finnerty is a guy that is known about this
story now since this past sea pack, and he's shown
some interest in it. So, uh, anybody that watches Newsmax
perhaps keep an eye out for for those folks to
possibly possibly start talking about this story. Uh, it would
be hoof every American to begin uh talking about the

(16:07):
information revealed in uh in this book. And I'm glad
you've got a copy. And high stakes treason is the
name of it. And to go back. Uh, that's that's
exactly right. And once once I see something. I'm not
a journalist by training by any means, but but but
I do know how to research, uh, and and I
do study. And when I do sudd an eye on

(16:29):
a target, I go for I go for it and
until it's obliterated. And that's my intention with with John
Brennan here So at seedback two two years ago, about
a so timeline, about a year and a half ago,
I was presented with the gentleman that joins us today,
and his name is John Donovan. And a friend of
mine walked John up to the podcast table and requested

(16:50):
that I listened to him. Nobody was and John could
talk about a little bit more, but nobody was listening
to the content. So the binder that John presented in
front of me, and in fact, as you as as
as John just alluded to, uh, he was ostracized by
his own family that thought he was crazy and wouldn't
pay attention to him, and he lost his job, right,
lost lost his job a couple times. So this guy's

(17:12):
a hero. He he has like like a bulldog for
more than fifteen years, he has been hunting and trying
to reveal. Now he and I together have made great
a great team because he's brought the contents that show
the trees in this act, and I've brought my ability

(17:32):
to network and and and and steamroll uh until I.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
Get that's a nice way to.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Get what I need.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
So so I looked at the contents and and you know,
we've known each other for a few years, and that
quite a few years, and uh, and I look at
the contents of the binder and and I say, and
it's like follow the money, right, So it made complete
sense to me. And I said, and I looked John,
and and we went out and hung out for a

(18:02):
couple hours after that, and and I says, look, I'm
gonna do everything I can to get this content, uh
to uh to the American people. So I think the
publication with the Post Hill Press. I think the publication
of the book and it's actually Bombitdeer, which is an
imprint of Post Hill. This is a this is a
great this is a great stepping stone, uh for the

(18:24):
American people to be deliberate. And what's what's incredible here,
Anne is the day that it was released. So people
kept asking me. People close to me are saying, you know,
when is this book gonna be released? Oh, It's never
gonna be released because there is a major stall. Initially,
John and I went to Skyhorse. I went to Tony
Allons and John and I had a call with Tony
for a couple hours, a couple of different times in
an hour, about forty minutes each, two times, uh and uh,

(18:48):
and Skyhorse was gonna taken on.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
But then but then a couple of months went by,
there was a lot of action on it. And I
found a guy that serves as a littery agent in
New York and he says, well, let me take this
to my contact at Post Hill. So that's that's how
I got to Post Hill. But I think, you know,
skygrs and Tony would have taken it on had I
kept pushing it. And what's interesting is on the twenty

(19:13):
second of July, and again I was given the date
thirty the thirty first of July for this two release,
and then one morning I get a text from from
Post till It says, Okay, we're out. It's gone, it's gone,
it's live, it's it's it's it's published in essence, right,
And so I shot over a text to Steve Bannon,
and Steve got back to me and says, okay, can

(19:34):
you come on like three hours, can you come on?
So I go on and with Natalie Winners and see
he's on the field that day, but he literally says,
this is the most exquisitely time to release of a
book in the history of publishing. That's exactly what Steve
Bannon said regarding this publication because that morning, that morning,
twenty second of July, Trump sitting in the Oval office
with the president of the Filipino president and he openly

(19:56):
called out Barack Obama for treason on there.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
People. So talking about timing here, right, I mean incredible.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
Yeah, absolutely incredible. And to that point, I want to
kind of dive into this book because your book Ian
begins by asking how Brennan, who is an admitted communist.
I don't I'm not sure how many people realize that,
but that's been out there for a long time, that
he is an admitted communist. How you know, how he
rose to lead the Central Intelligence Agency but used to

(20:24):
be a really incredible agency. Uh, but you know, now
we know they're you know, they've profited on drugs and
sex and weapons and color revolutions and so on and
so forth. What does that reveal about our intelligence apparatus?
From where you're sitting, If the CIA would have a devout,
openly stated communist running the intelligence agency that's supposed to

(20:45):
be our best.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
So I mean, I'm I'm in I'm in New York
right now. There's there's there's going to be a small
event for this book. And that's what took me to
the Newsmax offices here. Look, it was it was in
just a couple of years before jfkme is assassinated in Dallas.

Speaker 8 (21:01):
That he he was at he was in New York City.

Speaker 9 (21:05):
It's giving giving that famous speech where he said he
wanted to split to the CIA into a thousand pieces.
I mean, it's it's likely elements of the CIA that
that that that took him out in Deally Plaza. The
CIA has long been compromised. It's simply an issue here
is that it's it's so it's it's only a reflection
of how the deep state. Right, So the deep state

(21:26):
isn't the Democrat Party, it's not Republican Party. Are there
elements of both parties that I believe compromised by the
deep state. I personally do believe that the Republican Party
is the one standing up for the constitution that Democrats
certainly aren't. There's a guy running here in New York
to be mayor, and he's an open communist. I mean,
and communism is a is an enemy too to America.
It's not what we stand for at all. I mean,

(21:48):
we want equal rights. That's that's something else is a
different thing than communism. So communism is is is economic
tactic to control, uh, control governments, implemented in what the
Soviet Union, and implemented of course in North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Santa.

Speaker 8 (22:04):
An, China. Right.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
So uh And and they're making strides here. I mean,
this is McCarthyism, right. So it never it never really
went away. So what we're finding here in regards to
your to your question, uh, and is this it's this
is blatantly showing that this man, uh that and John
John Brennan. Right, So, and and John Donovan can talk
a little bit more about this. But John's the one
that told me, John Donovan, John's the one that says,

(22:27):
you know, Ian, this is what's called, this is what
referred to in the intelligence community as a penetration agent.
And so this man, John Brennan, was likely and he
was likely chosen by the deep state to be conducting
the farious things such as this, which is which is
growing the war on terra If you, if you, if you,
if you, if you ask me, uh, that is a hoax.

(22:49):
I'm not saying that there are legitimate terrorists.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
But what I'm saying is that by and large, these
false flag events are simply a means to to dramatize
and exposed flaws to gradually and this is systematic over decades,
right to take away constitutional rights.

Speaker 8 (23:09):
That's my answer to the question.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
So, this John Brennan is a class we've you know,
we've got with us today, a guy that's FBI trained,
obviously almost twelve years with the FBI, that knew how
to hunt this guy's trail.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
And unfortunately for John Brennan, he left his trail.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Exposed right, Well, you know John Donovan from approving visas
for nine to eleven hijackers right to creating the drone
quote kill list. What's the pattern that you're seeing in
Brennan's exercise of power? I mean what you know he
is talking about he was sort of a I wanst say,

(23:47):
a shill, but he was a plant essentially. What is
that pattern that you're seeing?

Speaker 8 (23:52):
So are you yeah?

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Right? What the timeline shows with Brennan, because that's you know,
that's my That's the way I do an investigation is
he uses two types of useful idiots, all right. One
useful idiot are the terrorists who, for whatever personal a

(24:16):
grievances they have, they want to go and kill people
cause mayhem. And the other useful idiot is the person
who works for him, who doesn't know Brennan's real game.
And by manipulating the terrorists through things like the drone

(24:37):
strikes on people who are innocent and killing you know,
some guy's family, it causes the terrorists to be more
angry and they want to act on their anger. And
then he uses an internal guy like this intelligence analyst
Michael Jones to open up a code work compartment and
hide the information so that the people who want to

(25:01):
stop the terrorist attacks are unable to do so. And
as Ian referred to this desire by the part of
the deep state and these people who have moved into
our intelligence community to take away our civil rights. That
was one of the reasons for the Norway attack was

(25:24):
to allow Breevik to carry out his shooting of innocent
children on that island in Norway. They wanted the outrage
that would have occurred from the public outpouring of grief
to use that to get our Senate to ratify the
UN Treaty on Arms Trade. There are three ways to

(25:47):
change the US Constitution the way we've done it twenty
nine times now. The second way is the Convention of
the States. But the third way, which most people don't understand,
is into national treaty. International treaties are the supreme law
of the land. If we ratify a treaty that requires

(26:10):
regulation of private ownership of firearms, then the United States'
Second Amendment goes away. And that was the number one
goal of the Obama administration, and that's what I believe
they wanted the Norway attack to succeed.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
Then yes, no, I wow, Okay, that sounds very emble.
It's very similar to what they've been doing here with
the false flag shootings. Not that people didn't die, they
absolutely died. People misunderstand false flag as is if it
didn't happen, no people shot, they got killed, But it
wasn't because for the reason that that they're trying to

(26:48):
portray in the media, there's another reason. There's a reason
that these things happen over and over, and they always
seem to be timed around a period when they really
need our guns taken away from us, is how I
see it. But you know, there was obviously a lot
of money changing hands. And in chapter three, uh Ian,
you talk about John Brennan's post CIA payouts and you

(27:09):
document Brennan turning a fifty thousand dollars stake into millions
of dollars through so Terra Defense. How do these payouts
actually tie into the cartel money laundering and NGO pipelines?
Is there a is there a link there? You can
detail a little bit for us.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
I I just focused on the the documents that I
could find, okay, and so I can't speak to that
sort of thing because I just looked for particular evidence, Okay.
Ian may have a greater knowledge of that is because
of looking at international banking.

Speaker 9 (27:46):
Right, look, and and this is a this is a
great question. We haven't been asked that. I haven't been
asked that question yet before. But but what I would say,
what I've always asked is what's the what's the possible
And I haven't and and again the book then't discussed
it and I haven't gone into it yet. But regarding mafia,
what's the possible ties in the links to the city

(28:07):
of London, with the with these, with this, with this
government contractor which is which was the announced corporation and
then it became known as so Tera and then it
transferred to something else.

Speaker 8 (28:17):
But what are what are the ties to?

Speaker 6 (28:20):
Right?

Speaker 9 (28:20):
What are the ties to the British is what I asked,
but more more importantly not just the British, more importantly
the city of London.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
And that's financial strengths.

Speaker 9 (28:27):
And that's something I haven't dug into, but that's exactly
where I personally would go in regards to that.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
To the question you just answered, I've got a link
for you guy. But then I'm of George McMillan. He's
a geopolitical strategy strategistic analysts. I've interviewed him several times,
extremely brilliant, and he makes a very good case for
a lot of the reasons we're engaged in these wars
through our quote special relationship the City of London, using uh,
you know, the Israeli government as their beard, obstensibly to

(28:55):
drag the United States and the wars where we've you know,
obviously looking at Iran, who you know, the rumor for
the last forty years of their fifteen minutes from a
nuclear warhead, and that's you know, that's the reason we
need to go and bomb the crap out of them.
Not to say that they aren't nefarious, and their government
in Iran is terrible because they are our own. CIA
overthrew the government again and now you've got this complete

(29:16):
lunacy over there. The people of Iran are good, they
don't want to They're not the ones out there chanting
death to America. That's their again, that's their own little
psychological information warfare going on. They want to have the
old iron back pre nineteen well pre nineteen fifty really,
but pre nineteen seventy nine for sure. So I digress,
But you know that's something you should explore because this
comes down to trade routes and natural resources and the

(29:39):
City of London is bankrupt, their fiat currency is put
as you know, we all know at this point, we're
watching the inflation happen everywhere. George Soros being you know,
tabling these attacks on people's economies and just destroying currency
like Greece and like they did in the British, you know,
to the British years ago. It's happening here and so
they need to collateralize that debt. And they need trade

(30:01):
routes and natural gas and oil. They need the resources
and the control of the trade routes. So that's why
Ron is targeted. I mean, it's CASPI and c to
Persian Gulf. They need it. They want to build the
Ben Gurion, they want the natural gas off the coast
of Gaza. I mean, that's really obvious to anybody with
half a brain, but I think that's something that should
be explored, and I'll connect you with George. I want
to talk about the Analysis Corporation, tax and the IPL

(30:24):
who wants to level up on was Brennan's control of
the contractors like over at the Analysis Corporation and SATA
the real engine of financial treason and how did that
private capital and CIA overlap. Do you want to take
that one, John, you know?

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Gotcha? Oh yeah. So, the as it's shown in the book,
Brennan was heavily involved at the CIA, in that portion
of the CIA that handled the clandestine war in Afghanistan
for five or six years. As we remember, hundreds of

(30:59):
thousands of Mujahadeen were recruited from all over the Muslim
world to go fight, and then the war ended and
they're all unemployed. But before that happened, the United States
was recruiting all these people, training all these people, bringing
some of them here to the United States to train
him and so they needed a database to track where

(31:22):
these people went. The Analysis Corporation invented that database, and
that database is now known as the Terrorist watch List.
So the Analysis Corporation owns the key monitoring technology for
the war on terror. Any agency that wants to find
out if a person is a terrorist, they have to

(31:44):
contact them. So Brennan was the director of the National
counter Terrorism Center in the last couple of years of
his time at the CIA. He retires from the CIA
and within a week he's the CEO of the Analysis Corporation.
While he's the CEO there, he's specifically tasked with the

(32:07):
new owners of the Analysis Corporation to prepare it for
an initial public offering, to spin it off to get
an initial public offering. And while he's doing that, he
actually was reported by the CIA's Office of General Counsel
for basically engaging in conspiracy to commit fraud against the

(32:29):
government in one of their contract negotiations on a contract
called the Hawkeye Project, and the Office of General Council says,
you know, we expect that our that our contractors will
not engage in this sort of behavior with us, And

(32:50):
so that doesn't work out to help the Analysis Corporation
build its revenue stream with the US government and therefore
become more attractive for an IPO. Then Brennan leaves the
Analysis Corporation and starts to work for the Obama political campaign,

(33:11):
and he has to event well, then Obama wins and
Brennan gets appointed National Security Advisor for COUNA Terrorism and
he fills out his executive Financial Disclosure Form and on
there he'd lists the four oh one K for the
Analysis Corporation, right, and that all makes sense, But there's

(33:34):
a handwritten note on that form which indicates the Office
of Government Ethics advising you have to you have to
divest yourself of this stock, and Brennan tells a lie, saying, Oh,
I'm going to roll it over into an IRA. Rolling
it over into an IRA would require the liquidation of

(33:54):
all the assets in the four oh one K, and
only the money gets rolled over. If he did that,
he loses the pre IPO stock that he was given
as the CEO. So instead of doing that, Brennan lies,
doesn't do it, and on his subsequent financial disclosure forms

(34:16):
he no longer lists the Analysis Corporation four oh one K.
He lists a new four oh one K for a
company called Soterra Defense Solutions. Well, it's the same company,
it's just a different name. And so I looked up
the Securities and Exchange Commission documents which verify that, yes,

(34:37):
the only asset held in the company four oh one
K is stock in the company, and that no matter
what the name change is, no matter what the ownership,
and no matter what the company organization changes go into effect,
the contents of the four oh on K will not change.
So John Brennan held on to it. Then the IPO

(34:59):
comes and prior to the IPO there's a stock split
and John Brennan gets about two hundred thousand shares of
his stock. And then and then a year or so later,
that company has then taken private and John Brennan gets
twenty four dollars and twenty five cents a share for

(35:22):
his two hundred thousand shares, So he gets four pointy
eight five million dollars. That's the paper trail that he
left which shows he committed false official statement crimes. We
have proof they committed ten false official statements to hide
the ownership of this stock. Oh, I'm sorry and I

(35:45):
can't hear you.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Al Capone went to prison, thank you, gentlemen. Al Capone
went to prison for lying on his tax returns. People
go to prison for lying on their tax returns all
the time. The fact of the matter is the IRS says,
you know, in their own handbook. You know, it's there's
no law that you have to file personal income tax.
Why even file it and then lie about it. Brennan,
on the other hand, was under by by by their

(36:09):
own laws and their own guidance there in d C.
You know, he had to disclose and he had to
make those adjustments as you just detailed. Yet he didn't.
He played the shell game, which is a shell game
they play in DC all the time. You know, Pelosi
in them don't own stock in their own name. They
have it all set up in trust, so they don't
own anything and they're happy, right, and no one's going
to go to jail for insider trading. You know, how
do you put a trust in jail? It's kind of

(36:31):
hard to do. And this is this is the frustration
for the American people. I think they need to understand
that they've insulated themselves. Yet they're insulating themselves with tools
that we ourselves can apply in our own daily lives
to insulate our cells from their nonsense coming out of
that US corporation aka the City of London to your
point e and you know, the National Center for Terrorism,

(36:53):
the National counter Terrorism Center n CTC Brennan centralized data
in their ian How did this given control over the
intelligence flow deciding what Congress, the FBI, and even the
NSA could see your Nazi Because this really came to
the forefront during the Obama years, right.

Speaker 9 (37:11):
That's right where we look at what John shows us,
what we show in high stakes treason is that we're
looking at years between two thousand and nine and twenty thirteen,
and on the topic of evasion, right, a tax evasion
or stockholding evasion. This isn't that's certainly a crime that
we're looking at as being committed for sure, Right, this

(37:33):
is the allegation, if you will. But we're talking about
not just a what's at state constitutionally, what's a stake
in regards to a violation resulting in prison time. The
violations have caused Americans to be attacked, right, It's caused
the Homeland Security which he was the advisor to during

(37:54):
those years before being appointed the head of the CIA
by Obama. He's allowed these stock foldings to be hidden
so that he could enrich himself financially at the expense
of Americans being killed. So you know, I mean, that's uh,
that's certainly a manslaughter. And so we're looking at what
and when I and when I when when I presented

(38:15):
with the binder And this is a John sits down
in my podcast him and gives me the binder. I'm
flipping through it and I look over it and I says,
wait a second, well, this is what you're talking about
is treason And he said, yeah, that's exactly right. So
John and I and a small team of us have
been talking about John Brennan having committed treason, uh for
well over a year and a half. And so I said,
so John's the one that brought it to my attention.

(38:37):
He says, you know what that means constitutionally right in
And I said, no, it's me. He says, well, that
means that that the requirement for having committed and being
convicted of treason one of them is certainly the death penalty.
So if you're John Brennan, you're you're looking at possibly
facing not only life in prison, but uh but uh,
you know death row being being uh And according to

(38:58):
Roger stun Roger dun As blatantly said he's he's and
he sent it to me to quote that he wants him. Hum,
this is this is very serious business having committed treason
on some of these patriots. We don't take it lightly.
And uh, and that's that's that's what we're looking at.
So I think I got I got distracted from from
answering your question there, Anne, But but I wanted to

(39:19):
make that point.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
Well, it's a really important point because Roger Stone dozz
link Brennan to Russia Gate and the twenty twenty interference.
You know, I guess that follow on to that and
we'll come back. The original question is how does Brennan's
history of running overseas color revolutions mirror what we saw
here at home. I mean, I've said it, but I
want to hear it from you. I'll give you both
a chance to answer that. It's starting with you, Ian

(39:41):
and then John, you know, color and some more.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
And I'm really glad that you mentioned color revolution. Ann.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
That's that's brilliant. And what I want to thread in
here and John can can talk to this a little
bit more here. And what I want to thread here
is an American born c I a asset known as
an rare a locke that readers will find in the
book is connected from USS coal bombing all the way
up through the Boston Marathon bombing. This is so, this

(40:07):
is this is what the CIA used and likely we
don't discuss it much in the book, but likely John
Brennan has used on the topic of this of anwar
al alack being a CIA, a CIA operative or at
least asset, right I don't know how the tour are
distinctly defined, but in regards to anwar Alwaukee, what we're
now then getting at is what happens September eleventh, two

(40:30):
thousand and one in New York City with the World
Trade Center bombings. How anwarrre Welwakee and George Tenant then
then meld into that because John O'Brennan was chief of
staff for George Tennant. So one of the questions I've
posed posed to John, and I'll let you discuss John
a little bit more on the color Color Revolution. One
of the one of the things that I've discussed with

(40:51):
with with Donovan here is if Brennan has allowed these
terror attacks to happen behind the scenes so that he
can rich himself his stock portfolio, then what did George
Tenant know that that disgusting day that that happened uh
in New York City and the bombing and the Pentagon
and these other attacks.

Speaker 8 (41:11):
What did George Tenant know?

Speaker 9 (41:12):
And then what what is possibly you start linking some
of the Donomo dominoes begin to fall Before I handed
off to the John here, Russia Gate is highly important.
There's two things that I wanted to mention for for
listeners right now. First off, why did John Brennan? And
Roger Stone is quoted in the book is saying that

(41:34):
that that John Brennan orchestrated Russia Gate?

Speaker 8 (41:37):
So then why did he orchestrate it?

Speaker 9 (41:39):
Well, because of perhaps the ethic waiver waiver that he
that that Abomba norm Issen gave him back in two
thousand and nine, which served as a cover up so
that he could go investigate that Norway bombing. The other
thing I wanted to mention, and I'm knowing throwing a
lot out for readers, But the other thing I wanted
to mention here, uh, very important is a meeting And

(42:01):
this comes from the gentleman is joining us right now,
a meeting that happened December ninth, in twenty sixteen, that
is where the crux of the Russia Gate would have
been formulated in the White House. And so according to
mister Donnovan that joins us today, that meeting should have
been recorded and is still still available on a skiff.

(42:25):
It's a matter of identifying where and what skiff. But
I've admitted, as I've mentioned to Matt Gates on his show,
i have requested a FOYA for exposing the video and
the audio for that meeting to the joints Chiefs of Staff.
What I've been told is that they would have access
to exposing that dialogue that happened that day for the

(42:49):
Russian host.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
Can I ask you guys a question, John, perhaps you
can answer this. I mean, this whole guy's of national security. This,
you know, state secrets, top secret clearance, blah blah blah.
At the end of the day, it seems to me
that it's just secrets they want to keep from the
American people because they are collaborating with their other like
minded intelligence community demons around the world to subdue their
own people through the boogeymen of ISIS. That's, you know,

(43:14):
a fabrication of the CIA and Masad and Hamas and
all these other terror organizations really are fabrications of the
intelligence community in the country from where they're based to
terrorize their own people. So shouldn't we at this point
to sort of declassify everything. I mean, this is insanity
that you know Ian's talking about. He's foying the conversation

(43:36):
that went down the Oval to create Russia Gate to it. Recently,
there was some exposure about a woman named Julia who
apparently had sent an email saying, this is my idea
for you know, to you know, start this, and then
they just took it from there. Is there any merit
in that from your investigation, John Well, I.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Was going to say the color revolution connection, and Ian
mentioned it is norm Iisen is a person who's he
basically wrote the playbook for color revolutions. He's been conducting
them all over and he's been running the one against
President Trump. Norm Sen was Barack Obama's ethics officer for

(44:19):
the White House. And that's one of the false official
statements that we can document. Brennan used to hide his
ownership with the stock. As I mentioned, you know, I
got involved because of the Norway attack in twenty eleven
and I was looking into it and when I identified
this intelligence analyst, I looked back to find out other

(44:43):
times that he visited the White House and found out
that he was visiting the White House prior to the
underwear bombing attack. In December of two thousand and nine,
Brennan was put in charge of the after action review
of how this could possibly happened by the President. However,

(45:03):
it was still publicly known that he had been CEO
of the Analysis Corporation, the organization that should have identified
Umar farukav de Batala as a terrorist suspect, right, and
so they needed to give him an ethics waiver to participate.
And the ethics waiver specifically says, you know of primary

(45:26):
importance to me giving you this waiver is you no
longer have a financial interest in the Analysis Corporation. That's
demonstrably false. So that norm Eisen is the one who
wrote that up. President Obama signed it, and that's a
clear violation of Title eighteen, Section one thousand and one,

(45:51):
which is false official statements, and that ties in ties
Brennan wa with Norm Issen as far as that goes.
I didn't look see like I Like I said, I
wanted to find the real evidence that I could use
to make a particular case, and there's so many places

(46:12):
you can go with this sort of information. I do
agree that most of this classified stuff is being used
to hide things from the people. For example, these meetings
that this intelligence analyst had at the White House, we
found I think we identified twenty of the meetings where

(46:34):
they intentionally misclassified who he was meeting with, so that
there wouldn't be a record the American people could find
of John Brennan meeting with this intelligence analysts.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
It's not too dissembled that what Komi did when they
had his name changed to Corny.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Remember that, and Brennan to Bremer.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
And bred Bremer. That's exactly right.

Speaker 9 (46:58):
They do this.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
It was a bunch of those things where they they
hacked the hexadecimal code that's you know, embedded in every document, Yeah,
to change it so that people can't find it if
they do a word search.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
Correct. Correct. And I recall when we discovered that, it
was right around the time I think it was Chuck
Carrasley who kept tweeting about corn and James Comy, you know,
being the dumb ass that he is, taking pictures of
himself standing by corn. It was like he was just
taunting the world and it all came out. You know,
their own Humoros is what's going to swallow them whole.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
Well, and I found the same modifications were done to
the visitor logs related to Michael Jones after I had
initially downloaded copies of them. When I went back to
the National Archive, I found out, wait a minute, I
can't search this on Michael Jones anymore. Yeah, but luckily

(47:52):
I already downloaded a copy of those files and I
was able to use them for the books. Kind of
stuff the deep state does to hide the information, absolutely, And.

Speaker 9 (48:05):
One of the one of the images, and shame on,
shame on Schumer right with with Rachel Motto or right
in those comments cities saying in regards to the intelligence agencies,
I mean, this guy's clueless some of the I I
think that these people are some of them are just
simply cluelesser and they're just simply sell out. So a
little bit of both. But one of the images presented
to me so so, and when when John and delivered

(48:26):
the binder, which again the contents of that binder in
this book, when he delivered the binder to me, and
we're looking at four hundred and thirty pages, right, so,
I don't know if you've had a chance.

Speaker 8 (48:37):
To go through it all or not.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
I yeah, no, I've read it over the weekend, and
I I told you, I went and bought the Kendle
version so I could put it up on the screen
a lot easier. Go aheady, and sorry, we lost Ian.
He'll be back, He'll be back. I guess. I guess
John Brennan had enough of you in and hit delete.
Ye oh my goodness. Well, anyway, you know, I have

(49:02):
to say this has been an incredible compilation of work.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Here he is.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
Let me see if I can add them. There you
are I and you fell out there for a second,
fell out soldier.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
Yeah, okay, So anyway, yeah, so we're looking at our
four hundred and thirty pages of documentation. Uh, it's it's
basically right or what I was getting at was this
when when when John presented to me the binder at
the podcast table, beautiful cover, right, so it gets a
great cover.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
It's a great cover, I mean, right there, and how you.

Speaker 9 (49:32):
Look anyway, high stakes. You know this is a catch bud,
This is a catchphrase. It's being mentioned tuning into Fox News,
turning the news Newsmax. You're you'll mention that high stakes.
This is what's that's what's being mentioned right now.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
But you know they're not saying high stakes treason, but
they're saying high stakes in regards to some of these trees.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
And anyway, anyway, by the way, I love your appendix.
Your appendix is kick ass. I started there, I started
reading me a book. From the appendix. I'm just saying,
we know the the.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Page that you just showed there, which I can tell.
I can tell it's related to the NSA's document on
x keyscore. Yes, there's a redacted section.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
Yep, right here.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
Okay, that reaction. That reaction was not done until six
years after it was published by the Guardian.

Speaker 7 (50:26):
All right, yeah, they're doing a lot of that. Here's
the redaction that that you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
Right, the Guardian did the redaction. That's not a reaction
by the by the government. They edited it six years
after they had already published it, exposed it to all
the intelligent services of the world. But then they were asked, oh,
we need you to hide this six years after it

(50:52):
was exposed. Well, who are they hiding it from. They're
hiding it from intelligence services, they're hiding it from us.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
So so here, so you're talking about how the government
is asking a news agency to hide information from the people. Right,
just suppose that this is a question for Trota, because
I can't wait to hear your head explode on this question.
Juxtapose that next to this administration now taking ten percent
interests in Intel and in other corporations, square that up.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
Yeah, I mean I think you're looking. You're talking about
the UK Office of the Guardian here, aren't we, John.

Speaker 7 (51:29):
Yeah, But I'm just saying, we're talking about businesses and
government working together to work against the people. Now you've
got the United States taking ten percent interests in corporations.
I mean, I don't think President Trump's a fascist or
a socialist, but that is the hallmarks of it. And
once this president's gone, I mean, we know what happened
after we lost Trump the second you know, the first

(51:49):
time when the mushroom showed up the pedophile and at
sixteen hundred, you know, I mean, we went full tilt
the other direction. What's to stop us from doing that again?
This time with government having control of serious business is
chip manufacturing, artificial intelligence and so on and so forth.
Look what they did to our healthcare, you know.

Speaker 9 (52:06):
Yeah, it's it's a ying and the yang, and it's
like both sides are playing into the deep state, right,
they're controlling both sides of the opposite. One of the
one of the early people that I started studying in
twenty sixteen when I started the podcast Discusses the Truth,
was Anthony Sutton, who'd written a book. He was a
Stanford Hoover fellow, and Stanford had basically threatened to kick
him out of his position for censoring him, right, and

(52:28):
so he walked away from Stanford because of that, and
he wrote a book called The Federal Reserve Conspiracy. So
following the money then, you know, getting back to the
whole cliche names. You know people that like to label
conspiracy theories, well, it's not real theoretical. You know, the
rothschild there has been a dynasty for centuries, right, and
so they're controlling routers that the controls the associated press.

(52:50):
So how much of the media we're talking about Fox News,
these big kind of NBC were conglomerates, how much of
that media is threating to threading through of course we're
seeing it run through the Council on Form Relations. Uh,
in that running through the Wall Street figures. But how
much is that is running through the folks that that

(53:10):
are subservient to the language over speaking, which is again
coming back coming back to London, London. So, uh, the
the yin and the yang is controlling both sides of
an opposite. And this is a Hegelian dialectic, right that
that Sutton was was talking about uh thesis and anti thesis,
but of course that's that's that's more philosophical than anything.

(53:33):
And so what is the what is the goal here
of the deep state? I mean, the goal here essentially
is to control, to control an element out of chaos,
right order, out of chaos. This this is how depending
on the viewer's definition of what the deep state is,
this is how the deep state is controlled.

Speaker 8 (53:55):
Free societies, you know, since the fall of the run
An Empire.

Speaker 9 (54:00):
Really I mean, uh, these different different countries that are
spawn out of that in Europe such as France, America's
all the stylie. So you you this just just just
a position, just a position to create a chaot of
cabinet atmosphere.

Speaker 8 (54:14):
So what does the United States have that they don't have?

Speaker 9 (54:18):
Well, we do have the most free constitution, even David
Ike says, what, there's nothing more liberal than than the
United States Constitution. And of that, we have another talking
point that we've discussed in this interview, which is the
Second Amendment. And that and in my opinion, and and uh,
you know, if yours can have certainly their own, but
in my opinion that is simply uh, that is the
that is the number one target of the Deep States

(54:40):
to to destroy that that second Amendment, because if you,
if you destroy us as such as the mouth say
Dung did, if you if you take that, if you
take that out, that element out, so that so that
the free, the free person can no longer defend themselves physically.
And you know we're not talking about nuclear attacks here,
but but but if somebody and this is an analogy
that I that I mentioned earlier. Uh uh, not on

(55:02):
this show, but in an early interview. I got to
knock out my door during the lockdowns, and man, that's
that's that's how you.

Speaker 8 (55:07):
And I know each other. Uh was through uh through
through Clay's events.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (55:11):
I got to knock on my door from the Census,
a census worker during the lockdowns, and she wanted she
wanted to test my temperature before I would fill out
her census. And it says, there's no way you're getting closed.
You're not getting I'm not going to give you my temperature.
That's that's something now or nothing, not not your business.
And I asked her to get off, to get off
my property. So and so I went through a role

(55:34):
play in my mind. I says, what if we allowed
society to get so bad that that person was accompanied
by a man holding a machine gun or a gun. Uh,
and they were going to force an injection. Let's take
it to another level, not just a temperature check, but
an injection.

Speaker 8 (55:48):
What would I do?

Speaker 9 (55:48):
What I defend myself? Well, certainly I would defend myself
if they would were taken those guns away from it.
So if they're if they're able to take those guns
away from then I personally has one individual be unable
to defend myself against person. Of course we'd have to
shoot off would who'd get to bold in the first,
But still I'd have that chance.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
So that's that's the way I ask you.

Speaker 7 (56:07):
It's your inherent right. It's built, it's baked right in,
it's baked right into our biblical principles, which is what
is the foundational documents. And you know for everything that
we have from two hundred and fifty years ago that
these brave fifty six signers pledge your lives, fortunes, and
sacred honor to make sure we would live on through posterity.
But yet you know three Martinez Spielossi waves the Constitution

(56:27):
around like it so handkerchief boohooing into it as if
it means nothing. So we have fallen so far, and
John Brennan is just another symptom of a very sick
country that going back to im what you said, the
City of London has got their myths deep into through
financial control. These are all bankers problems, bankers wars and
you know, a banker's data set of control.

Speaker 9 (56:50):
And yeah, yeah, let me, let me, let me mention
this because a few days ago, John and I did
a great interview with Melton Milk and one of the
things and this is what I did. I didn't know
mel Is Melie is diving in to a post World
War two period uh uh in her new book and
she's digging into the bank of international settlements. So listeners

(57:12):
of viewers and and you understand what I'm talking about,
weren't talking about and it was you know, they would
never admit the Federal Reserve would never admit that they
are a central bank.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
You know, oh, we are a federal reserve. You're a
central bank. It's a central bank.

Speaker 9 (57:24):
And all central banks globalt or are monitored or regulated
by the Bank Comband National Settlement out of Bossile Switcher
Switzerland that's that's up back.

Speaker 8 (57:31):
That's the way it is.

Speaker 7 (57:32):
That's right in a nondescript building. You wouldn't you wouldn't
see it if you walk right by because there's nothing
on that are say hi, where were everything goes down?
This is the bad part of Geneva. Anyway, gentlemen, listen.
I I've really enjoyed this conversation. Your book is fantastic,
and I know this was a labor of love. Uh Ian.

(57:52):
I believe that you've been, you know, a star war
in this movement for a long time, you know, bringing
people together, bringing the information out, and you know your
you know, just somebody that I really really respected. You're
so entertaining to. I love your energy, and the two
of you together are like, you know, gasoline in a match,
spontaneous combustion. So last words before we sign off.

Speaker 8 (58:19):
I'll let John have the last word.

Speaker 9 (58:21):
So I'll just say if if folks, if what we've
discussed resonates with you, please buy the book.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
Buy the book for every member of your family.

Speaker 9 (58:30):
Get it, get it being taught, Get get John's research,
being taught in local college, your high school. You can
get it on Amazon right now. Uh, go to high
stakestreeson dot com. And then my good friend Zach Forhes
uh and I know you know him, a great guy.
He put up a website called the High Stakes Trees
and Book dot com. And that's, uh, that's a I

(58:53):
generated website.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (58:54):
High Stakes Treason dot com is something that that I
personally put together.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (58:59):
But but again, and that link right there, if you
click that that that logo right there, it'll take it
right to High Street Amazon. I believe you'll have your
book within three days. And you can follow some of
my tweets if you choose. If you do Twitter at
real Ian Trottier and then I make Instagram posts at
Ian Trottier, So either one of those. And if you
want to dig some more information about me, it's Iantrotchier

(59:21):
dot com.

Speaker 7 (59:22):
Wonderful John. Where can folks find you? Oh?

Speaker 6 (59:25):
Well, I have a very low profile.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
I noticed I was digging around. I went, there's a reason, right.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
I used to be less intelligence analysts and my friends
would say, how come you know on Facebook? And I
would say, I only go on Facebook to get people fired.
They were like, eh, So what I would like to
say is the Russian collusion hoax is probably the greatest
crime committed against our country in the last two hundred

(59:55):
and fifty years. Unfortunately, it can be kind of soul.
That's well, you know, it was a political thing here
and they were, well, you know, this book documents dead Americans,
dead American allies, so that John Brennan could make four

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point eight five million dollars. People understand dead Americans, so
he could make a buck and.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
Then orchestrate the Russian collusion to shmeir Trump. That would
be the end of that sense. If I could add on,
if you don't mind, John, And the other thing I
wanted to mention is this. You know, I'm getting comments
from from from viewers or readers from different interviews, and
it's oh, here's here's another example of somebody's committed crimes.
Nobody's going to be locked up handcuffs, And well, you

(01:00:45):
know what, if we don't do anything as people, the
three of us are the citizens, we've maken a choice
in our lives to do something, and people watching listenings,
if you don't make a decision to get your voice
heard or tell you know, right your congressman or representer,
whoever it is, to make your voice or to get
a decision to hold these criminals accountable, then yes, nothing

(01:01:08):
is going to happen, and you're relying on people like
the three of us to make something happen for you.
So if you're one of those people that think nothing's
going to happen, then you're not doing enough to get
something done.

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
I could not agree with you more time. To get
off the couch, stop being the keyboard warrior throwing barbed
slings and arrows at the three of us, And what
are you going to do to try and save your country?
The Constitution's really clear on that. It starts out with
three words, we the people. I didn't say we the
wef we the government. You know, we John Brennan, or
we Donald Trump? We the people. So we got to

(01:01:39):
figure it out. And as General Flynn says, you know
that local action has a national impact. So without further ado, gentlemen,
thank you very much. This is a riveting book. I
encourage everybody to pick up a copy. I have two now,
Kendall and paperback, and my paperback tried. I almost dog
eared it, but then I didn't want to do that
too it. That's why I got the Kendle so I
could do it. There so thank you so much. What

(01:02:01):
you do you guys, have a blessed afternoon. All right, fantastic.
You know they I think they summed it up, dead
Americans and dead allies all for money. And you know what,
four point eight million dollars. Is it really that much money? Yeah,
of course that's a lot of money to you and me,
I get it. But look at how much money you know,
the Biden's made and the Obama's made, you know, but

(01:02:22):
four point eight million dollars and you've got dead Americans
and dead allies. Sickening, absolutely, you know, completely sickening when
I reflect on what I've read and what we just
learned through this interview. You know, just some closing comments
Brennan using John Brennan using the National Center for National Counterintelligence,
Center for Data Control basically to hide intelligence, which is

(01:02:45):
all the evidence that you just heard John Donovan present,
Brennan also using the CIA corporate fronts like the TACK
and Satara to launder money, and that again attributing that.
Just agnews forward in the book highlights that. And then
of course the favor attacked the left law fare and
censorship to silence dissent people like it myself and you

(01:03:06):
steal elections. Yep. Together all this system was tied into terror,
money laundering, election theft, into one massive treasonous apparatus, and
it's all tied up in above thanks to that communist
that had headed up the CIA. John O. Brennan chewing
out America until next time, have a great afternoon, and
thanks as always for tuning in to steal News. Good afternoon, everybody.

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