TRUMP VS. THE REGIME: The Tina Peters Showdown | Roger Arnoff, Patrick Byrne, Joe Hoft & Mike Lindell - Steel News with Ann Vandersteel

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
In the meantime, we wanted to get Tina out on
bail pending the appeal. The trial judge said no. He
not only said no, but he said no because of
what she may say. Well, this is a deprivation of
freedom of speech. This is this is clear from this
this judge so uh So, that's why we were able

(00:48):
to go to the federal court and say to another judge, to.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
A federal court judge, judge.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Let her out pending appeal, because the only reason that
the trial judges holding her in is because she may
say so.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I thought so.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
The architecture is something that was Venezuela, Serbia, Chinese. But
it also turns out that the CIA discovered all this and.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Was using it.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
By nine they were funding an organization called Steps in Arlington,
Virginia and NGO funded by the CIA, slash USAID, staffed
by George Soros Open Society, and the mission of this
organization was to spread.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Smartmatic around the world.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Billions of dollars were spent in helping countries modernize their.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Elections by an installing smartmatic.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
And once they did, in twenty six nations, we evanalyzed it.
They installed from started July nine, like six months after
Obama came to office and they installed the got these
started getting these computers installed countries all over from Estonia
and Philippines to Ecuadors, you know, just all over and

(02:11):
the country's lurch left. It was then start having elections
where everything lurch is left. Alaska's all of this technology
is riddled with back glacial Serbia and Tina.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
What Tina did was so instrumental. Frankly, you know, it's funny.
Can I tie this into Tina people or do you
not want to go there? And again?

Speaker 6 (02:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, please go ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Why this is so instrumental is the Tina's image from
Mason County shows that the election was that that the elections.
At some point in the accounty counting process, the election
database went from being here to somebody created a new

(02:56):
one over here and the.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Data was siphoned over no reason not to know. Data
has changed.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Thirty percent of the votes are flipped or something here
to here and now this is your election database.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
So there was no product placement for Coak and also.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
For and the problem is the database changed. That's what
Masa County Report number three found.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
He was found off analyzing the image that Tina and
risk life.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
And freedom it turns out to obtain though it was
her job to keep the county records. So what's key it?
We didn't know from Mesa County Report number three.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
They didn't know Jeff o'donald, who's wonderful. I love Jeff o'donald.
He never got to.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
How did that happen?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
They never found the instruction was that a cloaked script
was their hidden program within the machine that did that.
They never found out how it was done, just that
it happened.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Well, we know now how it happened.

Speaker 7 (04:02):
What happens is the machines got logged onto from Serbia
through some cutouts, and this manipulation goes on inside the
machine run from Serbia, and it takes, you know.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
A very short amount of time, and they do this
and that same part.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
And that's what did the orange juice to diet Coca
Cola switcheroo in the Mesa County database.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
When opening my bars in.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
The US, we am a wonderful woman who was an
election official and she's so cheating in Colorado and.

Speaker 9 (04:52):
She viewed it as horrible and she said, what's going
on here?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
And she went to the.

Speaker 9 (04:58):
Machine and she tried to open to find out whether
it was cheating. And they went to her and they said,
did you touch this machine? Yes, and they arrested her.
They arrested her in said of the people that did
the cheating, it's a stake charge, so it's hard to
do anything with but we're gonna we're gonna do something
what they did in Colorado. Look, Colorado just went to

(05:18):
all mail in voting. That means they cheat. That's why
they lost. That's one of the reasons.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
But that's a.

Speaker 9 (05:24):
Big reason why they just lost the whole Space Command
situation that was going to have them.

Speaker 10 (05:30):
But when you have mail in.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Voting, you have nothing but cheating.

Speaker 9 (05:33):
But this woman is a real patriot, and they put
her in here for a long time. She's seventy two
years old, seventy three years old.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And she wanted to find out.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
She hadn't go anything.

Speaker 9 (05:46):
She touched the machine, she looked at the machine.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
She's trying to find out what.

Speaker 9 (05:49):
Was going on, and they went and arrested her for
doing that, and were supposed to be the other way around.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I'm glad you.

Speaker 10 (05:55):
Brought that up.

Speaker 9 (05:56):
They should let her go, let her out.

Speaker 11 (06:01):
Like I you're You're your, I You're.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
You, and good afternoon, good evening, and good morning, depending

(07:15):
on where you are around this big, beautiful, green, blue
earth that we live on, this big beautiful marble. I'm
in Vandersteel and welcome to Steal News. It is nine
o'clock on the East coast here. I am up in Boston.
We had a premiere of our movie Taken State Sanctioned
Kidnapping last Friday. We're exposing CPS. We're doing a lot
more with the work that I'm doing now, more as
an activist, less on the news side, but I still

(07:38):
pop in here to do what I think are really
important stories. And this is one that is incredibly important
because everything that we're working on hinges on having valid elections,
and tonight we're going to confront the elephant in the room.
Our elections, the very foundation of this republic are clearly
under siege. If we haven't learned anything in the past
eight years, We've learned that. And there's one lady, one heroine,

(08:02):
who's in the middle of it all, and she sits
languishing in prison right now in the state of Colorado,
a state where I went to school, by the way,
and did. Several of my children. We're all buffs, so
my husband's abuff. But Tina Peters, she is a county clerk,
or was a county clerk from Mesa, Colorado, Mesa County, Colorado,
and she did what every public servant is sworn to do.

(08:24):
She protected the vote, she preserved the records, and she
told the truth. And as of today, September ninth, twenty
twenty five, Tina Peters has likely been incarcerated for approximately
somewhere between three hundred and thirty to three hundred and
fifty days. I couldn't quite figure it out because she's
been in different places, but she's about eleven months behind
bars since her sentencing and immediate custody began in early

(08:46):
of October of last year of twenty twenty four. And
for that she's been persecuted, prosecuted, and she's been silenced.
But tonight she isn't alone. We're on the cusp of
her seventieth birthday. Believe it or not, it's nine to eleven,
nine eleven, of all the things, and tonight I'm bringing
together some of the fiercest voices in America to put
the facts on the table. These are people who put

(09:06):
it on the line. For a long time. I've interviewed
some of these people going back to the beginning of
my journey at Steel Truth, and that has been one
hell of a wild ride. And I could feel it.
You can feel the atmosphere right now. The momentum is building.
There's something very big we're on the cusp of and
it's just everywhere look around the world. I mean, the
world is popping off everywhere you look. Macron should be

(09:28):
probably on a jet out of his country by now.
France going off, and I love it. The French are
just totally popping off. But it all comes down to elections.
And what we've witnessed over the last twenty plus years
around the world is the world seems to be taking
a hard turn to the left, and it seems rather
drastic and rather sudden. So if that's so true, why
is everybody popping off? Well, we're going to show you

(09:48):
what's called cast vote records. We're going to show you
some data anomalies. We're going to show you the clear
evidence of a system designed to keep you powerless. And
this isn't about left right, It's about the regime versus
the American people. It's the versus the world humanity. And
if they can do this to a seventy year old grandmother,
a seventy year old gold star mom, a seventy year

(10:10):
old whose husband was stolen from her, this is a
public official. They can do it to you. And if
we don't fix it, well, twenty twenty four maybe the
last well, I could say, real election this nation never sees.
So buckle up. This is Trump versus the regime that
Tina Peters showdown and birthday celebration. We have joining me
this evening for this incredible lineup, four incredible guests. First

(10:32):
up is Roger Arnoff. He's an independent data analyst, retired
from a career designing microchips, who has done his level
best to stay in the background, and tonight he's decided
to come out and come into the public arena and
he's going to give us this very technical lowdown. And
then we're going to meet with Patrick Byrne, founded the
America Project, former CEO of Overstock. We have Joehoff of

(10:53):
joehoff dot Com and the Gateway Pundit and rounding it
out this evening, Mike Lindell. I think we all know
the incredible Mike Lindell who brought Tina Peters into the
spotlight when he had his cyber symposium. So first up,
let me bring Roger on the stage here. Roger, it
is great to be with you. Thank you for joining
me this evening on this Tina Peters Birthday special. And folks,
if you're watching this right now, please do me a

(11:14):
solid share this out live everywhere. Jump in the chat.
I see we have Constitution Maga Mama who's here. Thank
you so much for sharing this. We have Mitchell who
popped in, and a variety of others. So please, by
the way, do everything you can to get this that Roger,
thanks for being here. We have a short time with
all the guests today, so I want to get right
into what you're going to talk about because it's very technical.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
Okay, well, thank you for having me, Thank you for
doing the show. Basically, I'm here kind of representing Edward Solomon,
who is actually the pioneer at doing this kind of
mathematical analysis of the election records. The first thing we
want to look at is this slide. With this slide

(12:00):
shows is the red line is Trump voters that voted
no on on a measure of the tax measure in Colorado.
And the one on the left is is the is
l Passo County. And this is this is fairly normal

(12:20):
that you'd see. You'd see, uh, you know, Republicans voting
no at a much higher percentage than Democrats voting no
this time. So the Democrats are voting that who are
voting no are down at the bottom, okay. And the
you know, the aggregate is the purple line in the middle. Okay,
that's that's l Passo County. And then what you see

(12:42):
on the right is the exact same formulation of a graph,
but from the data from a Rapahoe County from twenty twenty.
And what you see is that the two lines are
right on top of each other to the point where
they obscure the purple line. Right. And this is this
is completely abnormal. This is what we call lockstep motion.

(13:05):
Every every point in the counting process. This is not
in the voting process or the mail ballot process or
anything like that. This is just just as you go
through counting the ballots. You counted ten percent of the ballots,
that's the average at this point, or twenty five percent
halfway through. But the Republicans It's like it's like when

(13:26):
a Republican yes vote comes in or Republican no vote
comes in, they flip the next Democrat vote to be
a yes, so to pass this issue so that they
raise taxes on the people in Colorado. Okay, So if
we go to the next go to the next slide. Okay.

(13:47):
So the one on the left is that graph in
a different you know form, just black, and the one
on the right is u is let me see, is
it shows up the same kind of thing. This one
on the right is a rank choice is you know,

(14:07):
is twenty twenty four, So it's by Trump and Harris
voting no and yes no on a ranked choice voting issue.
And so that but the same sort of lockstep motion
shows up. Now, this could only happen if during the
counting process some sort of algorithm is running on these

(14:27):
on the in software on these machines. Okay. So the
castboard record from Rapaho County was on their on their
website for four years and and so we started talking
about this stuff. Edwards started talking about this stuff last
October when when with this lockstep motion in a wrappa hole, right,

(14:50):
and and and they there's a case going on in
Nevada where there where this is evidence in the case
that the that the machine are rigging things with this
kind of algorithms. This is evidence in the case that
locks that motion. So in April, in April of this year,
twenty twenty five, a rappah Hole County very quietly replaced

(15:14):
the cast vote record on their website with that interesting
the file. The file, it's a ZIP file. It has
the same name, but everything inside it is different, including
you know, the original zip file was an XLSX and
the new one is the new ones a CSV. The
sizes are completely different. If you go down, if you

(15:37):
go down a bit. Okay, this one talks about what
they changed. They changed fifteen million votes.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
They must not significant, Roger, that's not insignificant. This they
changed fifteen million votes just in Colorado, in.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
A Wrappa Hole County. Well, no, this is this is
the difference between the original castboat record and this replacement
castboat record. Okay, in a Rapahoe County. There's three hundred
and three hundred and fifty thousand, roughly three hundred and
fifty thousand ballots. The original castboat record showed this lockstep motion.

(16:13):
The new castboat record doesn't show the lockstep motion. It
changed the castboat record because we have it in evidence
in a court case. They changed it so that so
that you know, when we got to the court case,
we tried to show this, they say, oh, it never
showed that. We have forensic copies of the original data.
But for four years the castboad record on a Rapahoe

(16:37):
County had this lockstep motion in it. Then they changed
the data and they and they changed everything around. So
let me see go back, go back a bit. Okay,
we'll go back to We'll go back to that one.
So so this is just a measure of what's going on. Basically,

(16:59):
what happens is that that the the software and the
machines during the counting process takes apart the ballot. It
takes it takes the candidates on the ballot and separates
them from the ballot measures on the ballot. It adjusts
the candidate races so that they have the outcome of
the candidates they want, and it adjusts the ballot measure

(17:25):
stuff so they has what they want. Then they put
it back together and put out the castboat record. So
what happened here in Colorado, we think is that the
machine choked, and they didn't put they didn't finish the
third step, okay, So what it tells what it tells us,
what my opinion is is that they're they're doing a

(17:47):
three step a three step algorithm and and producing a
forged castboat record in the original first place. Then in
Arapahole County, when they found that we had caught them,
they replaced the castboat record with a castboat record that
does not show the lockstep motion. Okay, So if you

(18:10):
can go back up to let me see the slide,
the slide with the yellow and the green. Yeah, that one.
So in the middle, there in the middle, there you
see the original castboat record where every where the red
and the blue are right on top of each other,

(18:33):
and the yellow and the green are producing the same graph,
the same method of producing this graph, but the data
has been changed so that the yellow is now the
yellow is now the Republican, and the green is the Democrat,
and they're separated by about thirty which is what you
see in all the other counties. They went back and

(18:54):
did the third step and replaced the file on the website.
So here's the here's the rub. The cast vote record
is the basis for certification of the election. Can I
how can they change it? How can they change it
four years later, more than four years later, How can

(19:15):
they change it? It's like going back and changing all
the stats. It's like going back and working on the
World Series. You changed the scores of every game. You
changed all the stats. The RBIs the hits, the errors
on all the players in the whole World Series from
two thousand and you just.

Speaker 12 (19:32):
Put up a new record. It's it's it's so horribly corrupt,
it's incredible. Yeah, you know what, anybody, they didn't tell anybody.
This is evidence in the court case in Nevada. They
didn't tell anybody they were changing it.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
And this is what I see time and time again. Roger,
you know, I broke story recently on the IRS. It's
the same thing. They are creating records, but there's no
physical paper trail of it, and they're creating them to
to entrap people and deleting them in the system. And
of course when you take it to court, the DOJ
and the judicial system says, we don't see any records,

(20:07):
there's nothing there. Well, fortunately, we have people that are
catching the anomalies in the system and getting screenshots of
it to prove what they're doing. And that's exactly what
you're doing here. This is a playbook that's washedrins and
repeat for this federal government to steal our country. It's
a concerted effort to overthrow, to insurrect, and you've got

(20:28):
it all you and Solomon and Gosh, a team of people.
There's thousands, tens of thousands of volunteers around this country.
And Tina Peters, she is the birthday girl and this
is her. You know, this is her seventieth birthday. This
was actually your idea, and can you do something for
Tina Peters. I'm like, well, kind of sure. I'm not
in my studio, I'm traveling, I had a documentary, and

(20:50):
I'm celebrating other things going on. But let's celebrate Tina,
because you know what, we should pull everything over and
celebrate this one. No matter what you're doing, we should
stop what you're doing and take a minute to appreciate her.
I'd like you to give a message to Tina Peters
because you know, this is the woman of the hour,
and this is a woman that we should be celebrating
right now.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Go down to the one where it's got three graphs,
three graphs on the same page.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Okay, okay, And I've got to wrap this up because
I've got other guests that are also waiting. I can
do guests, Okay. So has a three.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
Grabs on one page. Okay, down we grab some one page.

Speaker 10 (21:28):
Uh, that's there.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
This this is the twenty twenty one Mesa County election
that where Tina noticed the noticed that there was a problem.
These these are the county supervisors. They're all they were
all Democrat incumbents from the last rig and the Republicans
had done a very good job of spreading the word

(21:52):
about how the schools were getting screwed up, and but
all the Democrats won with the same noumber of votes
in every race. And that's what got Tina starting to
look at it. And these are these are Edwards things.
These all follow that formula up in the upper left corner.
They're all right on that formula, okay, to to like

(22:15):
one in ten trillion kind of chance of it happening naturally.

Speaker 10 (22:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
So these are the kinds of things that Tina found
and and you know, by preserving that that disc she
she brought it out to where it could be looked
at and everybody's saying there's nothing to look at, but
there's a lot to look at. So Tina, we're going
to get you out. Okay, this this talk on that,
what is that?

Speaker 3 (22:39):
What does that path to getting Tina out look like?
Before I bring in our next.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Guest, well, I'm I'm with I'm with some other people
that you know. We should deputize five hundred or a
thousand Marines as US marshals and send them.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
In, send them in Aware to Colorado.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Prison, to the prison around the marshals. Okay, they if
they need tanks, whatever they need surround the prison, they
would they'll go away smoothly and happily when Tina is released.
But if they're if they're if they're sworn in as
US marshals, and then there's there's a big precedent for this.

(23:19):
In DC. After January sixth, twenty twenty one, there were
twenty five thousand troops there. Twenty five hundred of the
of the reservists who had been activated for that for
that event were sworn as US marshals. So when they're
sworn in dual dual service like that, it's US marshals.

(23:39):
They can be used to do law enforcement activities on
the on the population inside the country, because as US marshals,
they're not subject to the Posse Committatus Act. So so
I think that you know Tina is Tina is a
critical witness to what I've been showing here is is

(24:04):
criminal activity to it's treason, is criminal activity to overthrow
the president of the United States.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Sure, and again that.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
That's she's a she's a material witness to conspiracy to
overthrow the government, and that they can go in there
and pull her out and put her in protective custody.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Amen.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
And I think if it needs a thousand, if it
needs a thousand marines with tanks and helicopters, go ahead, please.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Right well, listen, You're not going to get any rebuttal
from me. I see Tina definitely as a federal witness,
and she should be treated as such. She should be
in protective custody of the US Marshals. I remember talking
to Peter Burnager about that a while ago, months and
months ago, and I thought, well, that would have happened already.
It hasn't, And I'm not sure what the hold up is.
I'm sure there's a lot of good reasons, but I

(24:57):
you know of which none of them all ali like
her ever except yep. But that's also my optimism because
I believe she deserves to be out. She did nothing wrong,
she did her job, she served. But this is rot.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Just the act of trying to remove Trump from the ballot. Absolutely,
this is borderline craziness to me.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, I agree. I want to thank Josh prut he
sent Tin a birthday card and a letter that is
so kind.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Lots of folks Boston Broadsides reposting this stream, thank you,
Boston Broadside. And Chris has a question here when is
his admin going to abolish the freaking irs and all
the rest of this government. Frankly, I couldn't agree more.
I think our founding college there on that alter or abolished, right, Yeah, yeah,
ninety it should definitely.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
That doesn't fall under Article one, Section eight.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Okay, that's exactly right, those nineteen enumerated powers of Congress exactly.
Roger Arnoff, I know you are pensioning for some of
the people that have done some brilliant work. You're good,
mister Edward Solomon, who I've known you all for years now.
Bobobby Pyton also back up in Illinois, what a team,
what a crew. I feel like it's getting the band
together sometimes and I do these little calls and folks,

(26:11):
so this is awesome. We've got Mike Lindell also in
the green room. Patrick has talked texting me right now.
Unfortunately I think he's in a dead zone. He just
said that he's I don't even think he's getting my message.
He said his link isn't working to come in here.
So I might move into Mike Lindella here next. Joe
hoff is due on Den any minute now as well.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
I'd like everybody to recognize that Edward Solomon has done
been working on this stuff, like twenty four hours a
day for five years. He's the only one in the world,
you know, up to up to a few months ago
when I managed to catch up to him a little bit,
and who has been able to do these intensive you know,

(26:57):
we call him hyper complex Mathem addicts to to find
these rigs.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
So it's a talent. You have to see it. You
have to see It's not like you sit there with
an avocates in a computer. You look at it and
you can see the anomaly. I look at it and
it looks like Greek to me. But that's the mind
that you have the.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Stuff with the stuff we've been doing lately. Is you
know Edward would take would take days to do one
analysis of like against this measure B. There's eleven ballot measures.
They all show that lockstep. Nobody ever knew that I've done.
What I've done with Edward is I write programs. So
I write I wrote these programs to automate what Edward

(27:38):
did with the spreadsheet, so that now we can do
this in depth analysis in hours instead of days.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
So I would like you to quickly explain, Roger, quickly
explain why you think we shouldn't have voter rolls and
we shouldn't have voter registration.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
It's okay, go back, go back to this I'd show
and go back up a few pages to where you
see a spreadsheet with red and yellow and stuff. Okay,
that's it right there. This is Colorado. Yeah, And what
I did, this is what I was doing back in
twenty twenty two. And what you see is over here

(28:18):
on the right, you'll see population in the census. This
is county by county in Colorado. So it's population by census.
The percentage that's under eighteen. Okay, So over in the
left hand side. I calculate from that census that data,
I calculate the eligible population in the county. Then I'll
go to the website and I got the registered population

(28:41):
in the county and the registered fraction and calumn e
there that shows this shows the percentage of the eligible
population that's registered and everyone that's read is over one
hundred percent, right, more than one hundred percent. So twenty

(29:01):
four counties in Colorado out of the sixty four counties
have more than one hundred percent of the eligible population registered. Right,
fraud And now what percentage of those are legals too?
Be down that? Yeah, okay, so twenty four percent have
over one hundred percent, another twenty another twenty four Another

(29:23):
twenty four counties have something have somewhere between ninety and
one hundred percent. And this is ridiculous. Back in the
back in the nineties, you would see sixty five percent
of the population would get registered and only half of
them would vote. So you'd see voting, you'd only see
about thirty or thirty five percent of the eligible population.
We don't have any state in the Union now that's

(29:45):
below fifty five or sixty percent of the eligible population.
Voting Oklahoma is the best at fifty five percent. Okay.
So the registration rules, I think they're completely hopeless. Short
of short of throwing them all out completely and making
everybody your register, there's no answer. There's no way to

(30:08):
get them cleaned up for twenty twenty six. My push
right now is that when the habit was created that
created these registration requirements, it was a twenty twenty, it
was in two thousand and two, and in twenty two
thousand and five they created the Real Idea Act. Real

(30:29):
ID Act requires citizenship, proof of citizenship to get it.
It has it has your residence address on it, and
you're throw away. The registrations require that you show up
in person at a polling place and you show your
real ID and it corresponds to a list for that

(30:49):
precinct and you can book. It's all done. It's all there.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
That's that simple, okay.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
And because the Real Idea Away, the real ID Act
is written, the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security,
Christy Naul, can order this anytime, says she can order
it anytime. Can real ID be presented to vote?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
That seems very straightforward, Roger, I've got to let you go.
I've got Joe Hoff waiting in the wings, and then
we've got Michael Nell. So I appreciate you for coming on.
I appreciate you giving me this idea. I was glad
I was they able to pull it together quickly and
bring in what I consider to be an all star cast.
Tina Peters, lineup people who have been with her from
the beginning. You represent some of the best and brightest

(31:36):
minds that have looked at this data. There are tens
of thousands of people that have done incredible work around
the country. I want to give them all their due
because so many people are standing with Tina Peters. But
they stand for this country, our constitution, and our right
to vote and be in free and fair elections and
not have our rugs pulled out from underneath this the
way they have for many years. And it's not just
in this country, which is what Tina has proven. She's

(31:57):
proven this has been going on around the world, and
our CIA is very involved in all of this, and
so we lock that's exactly Look at me and mar
Roger Arnoff, thank you so much for being here. I'm
going to cut to Joe hofft here, who was waiting
in the wings. I appreciate you Mann.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Okay, well, thank you for having me and I'm really
glad you did this show.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
You got it. Take care all right. Wow, I'm sorry.
I'm going to move quickly here, but I want to
keep everybody moving in Joe. It is awesome to see
you again. Thanks for popping in on short notice. You
have been somebody who has been publishing and posting about
Tina Peters now for the god well not only Teena Peters,
but the elections and the theft of this country for
years since all this has gone down, and you know,

(32:37):
you're one of the go tos out there and you
host events all over the country. So thank you for
being here. Let's talk a little bit about what you
see as the current fifty thousand foot view and how
close are we to getting one TEENA out of prison
from your perspective, but two getting a handle on these
elections so that we can actually see what's what in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, and thanks for having me. It's great seeing Yeah,
great being on your show. It's a great idea what
you're doing, just fantastic stuff. So thanks again, thanks.

Speaker 10 (33:04):
For having me here.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's great to be here. Yeah, talking about Tina. We
could talk really all day. I did an interview with
Tina not long ago. She called me and we talked
about what's going on, and it was really moving. We
you know, I called her and and it's not I'll
get to this post in one second, but you know,
she was as we talked, we talked more about the country,

(33:29):
about President Trump, about she During this conversation that I
had with her, she's she's asking me how I'm doing.
She's in prison, asking me, well, so, how are you doing, Joe,
and stuff like that. And it was just a really
incredible discussion. Here's this lady in prison, wrongly, in prison, unjustly, uh,

(33:54):
just terribly as we all know. And she did nothing wrong.
She did everything right, like so many people. And this
is this is what we're facing right now too. And
it's the people that stand up and share the truth.
They're the ones, the truth tellers. They are the greatest
enemy to this evil attempted coup of the United States.
They do not like us truth tellers, and that's why

(34:16):
we get hammered. And and whether it be in whatever way,
you know, whatever way, whether it's shadow band, whether it's docs,
whether it's size suit, whatever it might be. That's what
they do, and it's to stop us. And they have
two goals bankrupt and silence us. Maybe put in prison
us and watch us, you know, feel pain and tortured

(34:38):
until we just die. So that's really, I think, ultimately,
what they want. We saw that with Trump. We're staying
it with Tina. So anyway, it's amazing that she's she's
asking about me. So yeah, I can remember, you know,
meeting Tina. You know, she's a wonderful woman all that.
And I wrote an article this is I guess maybe
two years ago now a year and a half. Where

(34:59):
I was writing, I had received information from a young
woman in Denver who knew Tina and she'd visited her,
and this young woman had said that Tina told her that, hey,
if something happens to her, she was still being bounced
around in jails before they put her in prison. If
anything happens, just tell people I'm not suicidal. And I thought, wow,

(35:20):
this is pretty moving, and I, you know, I put
it up. I and this lady had some you know,
great information where she'd met Tina, talking to Tina, and
Tina was under tremendous abuse then in this jail system
in Colorado, and so I put that up and what
happened was about two or three weeks later, I get

(35:40):
an email from an elderly woman who said who shared
with me? She says, Joe, if you could, could you
please share that article that you wrote about Tina with
President Trump? If you could just do that, please do it.
And she said, I'm Tina Peter's ninety six year old mother,
and I read that and it really moved me. And

(36:02):
you know, if you can, kids there anything you could
do to help her, and you know, I gotta tell you.
And that brings everything back to perspective too. It's so
much like Tina, like her story. It's like this. We
didn't I didn't even know she had a mother that
was still alive and and she is and she's watching
her daughter go through this hell and and I can't

(36:23):
imagine what it's like to her. So the best thing
we could do is get her out of that, you know,
nightmare situation. If not only you know, why not for
her mother? And I think her dad didn't her dad
die while she was in jail, she was in prison,
so you know, this is this is not right, this

(36:44):
is just really really evil dark stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
She lost her son, her son died. You know, she's
a gold star mom. Her husband was divorced from her.
He was in a memory care unit and they put
paperwork in front of him and had him divorce or
he didn't even know what he was doing is Alzheimer's.
Her dad died, and you know, and now you're getting
these heartfelt letters from her mother. It's like, you know,
it's not what this woman has done for this country.

(37:09):
And I watched Patrick Burns interview the other day with
Apollo on Truth Matters on Tina Peter's show, and he explained, how,
you know, Tina Peters, you know, exposed the CIA, exposed
the fact that we now have a refutable evidence that
we've been doing this. Now we are the we, meaning
our intelligence community has been doing this in concert with
Smart Manic and the Venezuelan thugs around the world for

(37:31):
twenty years, twenty plus years and seventy some countries like
this is insane, and we we wonder why are these
countries taking hard turns to elects because their elections are rigged.
And look what's going on, Frances popping off, Brazil's popping off,
I mean, these countries that have been infiltrated are popping off.
And when you have paper ballot elections in Argentina, a
socialist country, all of a sudden, a libertarian gets elected. Hello,

(37:53):
the world isn't left.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's just the powers to be you know, I agree,
I agree, and you know, and they try to leave us.
Everything they do is a lie to you. Just once
you know that, then you then you're way ahead of
everybody else. Everything the left says is a lie. I
believe now that probably around eighty percent of Americans with Trump.
And I based that on a recent poll. I saw

(38:16):
this in twenty twenty or in twenty twenty four. In
the polling, there'd be like sixty five percent of Americans
belief January sixth was was a setup. Sixty two percent
said the election was stolen. Those numbers, to me, were
consistent with support for President Trump, and they and they,
and I think they grew up and up to the

(38:36):
after the assassination attempt. I think he just rocketed out
out of the you know, to the heavens really and
and we had this incredible moment with him. And now
they're saying seventy eight percent of the American people are saying, no,
we believe our rights come from God and we stand
with Trump on that. And that to me is that's
that's a message assigned that No, there isn't a bunch

(38:58):
of lefties that are half the population here or more
in California or whatever. That's not true. The truth is
that we are the majority. And the only way and
Trump said this in one of his truths recently, the
only way they win is through cheating because nobody's buying
this garbage tran stuff and everything else. So yeah, So anyways,

(39:20):
I wanted to share that article with you about Tina's
mom that really that really rocked me. And then and
then the other discussion the piece that does come up
I think more recently, Tina called me one day and
I and got on my show. I was running to
show a conservative daily, and she shared with me. She said,
this is the most important thing I'm gonna I want

(39:42):
to share it. I just want to get it out.
And she wanted to get the word out. She was
saying that there's this supremacy clause in the Constitution. This
has been last probably last summer ish that she did this,
and we talked about it and I looked it up
and what it says, basically, it's right there in the Constitution.

(40:03):
It says in matters where there's a conflict between the
federal government and the state. And of course I'm no
constitutional scholar, but this is my understanding. It's that this
the federal government trumps out, the federal government wins. And
there's reasons for the for why they did this, because
our federal government was so weak before this constitution and

(40:24):
it's worked really well for you know, for a couple
centuries now that that's the way things are done. The
federal government in return, does a number of things and
provides supposed to provide a safe border and security, et
cetera for the American people, which they haven't done under Biden.
But anyways, Tina raised this. She says, you know, the

(40:46):
federal statute state that I'm supposed to be, you know,
saving the information from the election, and it's defined as
basically anything involved in the election, whether it be electronic
or hard copy, and you're supposed to keep it for
like up to around two years. And she said she
was doing her job and that's what they arrested her for.

(41:07):
And the federal government has statues that she was adhering to.
So the fact that the state then made up crimes
against her found an absolute corrupt, disgusting piece of work.
As this judge who was just vile, just disgusting the
way he talked to this beautiful woman and said, you'll
do it again. You know, that was one thing in

(41:28):
my call with her recently. She said, well, you know
she talked about this, she says, and I do it again,
and you know, we're all proud of her. We're like, yeah,
this lady's a woman, you know, a woman of character
and integrity. That judge said the same thing to her,
and there's no doubt in my mind that you do
it again. And he blaming her as if she'd committed
some sort of crime. He was a joke. He was disgusting.

(41:51):
I question actually if the guy's getting paid off or what.
It was so disgusting where he was, the position that
he took. You know, if you've seen those videos of him.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Oh wow, I watched. I watched all of them. And
when you interview people like Sean Taylor and others that
have done the deep dives, I've got a team right
now that's overlapping the work that Sean Taylor did, the
assistant police chief from Tennessee the linkages and the money
we have and the investigations I've done in CPS, we
have judges taking bribes through paypals. We have the receipts.

(42:22):
So if you don't think, if you think that's going on,
and you know how they sophisticated they were with laundering
money through the mortgages. I remember in two thousand and seventeen,
right after Rudy Contreras from the fis of Court stepped down,
after Flynn was removed as nssay he stepped down. If
you remember, remember he recused there was somebody from the

(42:43):
federal government who reached out to me through LinkedIn and said,
look over here, and they showed me a file where
there was a home in Maricopa County that he was
bought and sold three times in one day. And guess
who owned the home and the price kept going up.
Rudy Contreras and I didn't know what I was looking at.
I said, what am I looking at?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Here?

Speaker 10 (43:00):
Bigger?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
There's even a bigger story there. There's something really really
suspect with all that. What's going on in most of
these homes you look at him, they're just kind of
very average homes. It's not like their palaces that they're buying.
It's Adam Schiff Weissman, Latitia James. As we know, there's
a number of people that are involved in this. Raskin
He's got some properties. Now, I hope the Fed's going

(43:23):
to all look at all these guys, you know. So, yeah,
it's a shame. Yeah. But anyways, going back to this
position about supremacy clause, I talked to a a top
an attorney in the administration about this, and I said, well,
here's the deal. If you know, they pushed this through

(43:44):
the state court and if you could get it in
the federal court, Trump could partner. And what they did
was they ignored the supremacy clause and they also ignored
all the federal government people that were in this. The
f FBI re rated Tina's home, the FBI rated Sharona

(44:05):
Bishop's home. They had a phone call, a conference call
with the county individuals there. Christopher Ray was on it,
the head of the FBI, as well as Merrick Garland,
the head of the DOJ. There was some other instat
of the one of the US attorneys or the US

(44:26):
District attorney was was involved in emails as they were
planning out what their crimes would be. And there's a
lot of evidence there to say that, hey, this never
should have been labeled a state crime because there was
so much federal intervention and and and the individual I
spoke with said, well, yes, and people are looking at this.

(44:46):
This was a This was probably half year ago now
maybe now it was since the election or since the inauguration.
And the thing is that there if the federal government,
especially like like Christopher A and Merrick Garland, if they
were running this thing, then that would give more more
I think support for the fact that you would be

(45:08):
able to move this to federal court and shut this
thing down because it's such a train wreck and such
a lie. So that's been the dilemma. I don't know.
I don't know if Trump just sends people in and
just you know, takes her out of there. I don't
know what's going to happen. But we've got a crisis,
and we've got a crisis.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
We do have a crisis. And Roger Arnolf, who was
on before you, said I think we sent five hundred
you know, us Marshall's in there surround the prison with tanks, and.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, well you know this is all this is really
where we're at. We've got these judges. I was talking
to somebody about this today. Well, and they're not making
they're not doing anything that's you know that's helped.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
You know, that's they're not even they're not following the law.
They're making it up as they go. They're just making.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
That's exactly what happened here. They came up with charges.
They didn't give her a fair trial. She's not able
to present evidence or testimony or bring in other individuals
to testify for her. The judge was absolutely conflicted. Everything
was just this was.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
A shot across about all of us, right, just like
what they tried to do to Trump, it was to
scare us. And like they did with the Jay sixers,
you know, and this is that was aristark reminder, we
will do it to you. If we can do it
to them, we will do it to you. And this
is why we have to get this election sorted. Why,
you know, Mike Lindell, who really put Tina Peters on
the map. I remember, I remember the cyber symposium like

(46:34):
had happened yesterday because so much happened during the cyber supposium.
It was insane, including Mike getting attacked on the elevator.
And I remember when he brought Tina Peters in and
we were like, who is this woman? What is going
on here? Where did she come from? And you know,
it was just it was crazy. And today she represents
all of us. In fact, she represents the world when
it comes to election integrity and the theft of nations

(46:57):
sovereignty and the will of the people. And I think
that's why people are so pissed off all over the world.
They've realized they've everything has been stolen, and you know,
really there are more of us than them when it
comes down to it. And we're starting to see this swell,
you know, the swell people. And I'm looking at General
Fun's posts and you know, he's like, okay, you know,
I think the people are speaking ham BONDI. When are

(47:18):
you going to start making some arrest there, lady?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know, we're all feeling it.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
We're all agitated, you know, and we've been we've been
the adults in the room and held our kept our
powder dry. Yeah, and they've been just look at Ashley
Babbitt look at the you know, the dods poisoned death shots,
and they've been killing us for a while now, and
we're to the point where we're like, yeah, this isn't
going to work.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
That's enough, that's enough. You know, we're going to keep
sharing the truth and if you don't like it, then
we're going to get you know, then you're not going
to be in those roles anymore. Because we need judges
that's that stand by the truth. We need prosecutors and
and you know people in our government as well. I
think a big move today was the a judge that
was a Nasshile judge in Michigan, a state edge for

(48:00):
the that was appointed by the attorney general. There are
some sort of correlation to the attorney general just ruled
that those sixteen or so Trump delegates that case she
threw out. So that was good. But the but it
does but these people need to be compensated for all
the all the harm that they suffered since the twenty
twenty election, for standing up and again doing something absolutely

(48:24):
lawful where there's precedence. It absolutely made sense. So maybe
there's some movements in this regard. I feel it, I
really do. I think you know, we got to keep
keep charging ahead though, and not coward of these these cowards,
because that's the thing that's right they don't like. So yeah,
I think.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
This was ale. I want to I want to end
on this piece with you jokes. I've got Mike Lindell
waiting in the wings. But you know, you said general
actions arguably allow President Trump the ability to step in
and Partantina Peters. So you feel very very strongly about this, right.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
There is like I said, if they can prove that
the federal government, meaning Merrick Garland Christopher way Ray were
behind this, then I think there's every every ounce of
support for them to be able to pardon her on
a federal basis and get her out of there. So
that's one alternative. I know that some people are looking at, well.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
This is exciting. I'm going to if you can stick around,
I'm going to bring Mike Lindell in here next. I
you know, I'd like to get Mike to you know,
kind of bring us up to speed and again he
you know, when you think of election integrity, and you
said it earlier, you know, the majority of the country
now is now coming back closer to God, which is
one of the things Mike said in the very beginning,

(49:41):
I'll never forget it. This is going to be the
greatest revival for Jesus Christ. And I thought to myself, Oh,
Jesus Christ, what is he talking about our country stolen?
I see it so clearly now. And you know, Mike
was one of my inspirations to get baptized in July
of twenty twenty one, because I started to put it
all together and I realized, you know this, We've always
said good and evil, but now we have scope, we
have hindsight is twenty twenty we can see the big picture,

(50:04):
and I see it for what it really is. And uh,
you know, Mike has been the biggest, loudest voice for this.
And talk about someone who's taken a heat. Uh you know,
he's taken massive heat, and he's managed to keep it together,
keep his country and his company together, keep those people employed.
And he's been so generous with everybody for so long.

(50:24):
So I really want to he's a hero. He's a hero.
So Joe, stick around if you can. I'm going to
bring Mike in right now. And you know, I just
really appreciate everything we've been there and done for this country. Yourself.
You're a hero.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Joe.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
All right, hang on one second, let's get our good
buddy in here. Let me take Joe out and bring
in the man, the Myth, the legend. Mister Hello, Mike Lindell.
Good to see you. I remember the first time I
interviewed you, Annie. Are you going to Sea Pack this year? Yes, sir,
thank you coming.

Speaker 13 (51:01):
I'll tell you you talk about God having his hand
and all this. I was just with the President last
Wednesday and I told him, I said, mister President, you
remember last summer when I told you, with God all
things are possible, and Him working through you, you'll get
this fixed faster than anyone.

Speaker 10 (51:17):
And he looked and he goes, yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 13 (51:19):
I said, you're doing it even faster than I could
ever imagine. And of course we talked about Tina. This
is the fourth time i'd met him with Tina. And
I'll tell you, everybody, you go back to that cyber
symposium when you brought that up in I mean that
was like the ground zero where everything that was probably

(51:39):
the most three days, the most bizarre three days I
can remember. It was just a spiritual battle. Everybody that
we've been in now for the world. I'm good and
evil just colliding. And and when Tina bravely took that stage,
first time I had ever met her, and she took
that stage, and she never looked back. And I remember

(52:00):
and putting her down to Texas to be protected. The
very first night her hotel was broken into when she
went out to eat, and we know the only you know,
she had to be tracked. And this was it, and
and uh it was you know, I had just been
attacked at the cybers symposium. There was there were so
many spy planes flying back and both over ahead, Cia,

(52:21):
you name it. And one of the things I want
everybody to realize.

Speaker 10 (52:24):
You just talked.

Speaker 13 (52:24):
Joe brought up an interesting I'm going to tell you
what the President's going to be doing, and I'll tell
you all that in a second, but he brings up
an interesting thing there about that this being a federal case.
You know, the FBI went around and took not just
my phone, but everyone that was involved with Tina. They
took money to Hearty's. The way they did it, you
guys that surrounded me. If it had been in the

(52:46):
middle at night, i'd been around the block, I would
have bashed through them. They didn't look like no FBI guys.
They didn't wear glasses like men in black. I would
have bashed room and went out looking for a real policeman.
I was coming back from a hunting trip. That would
have been easy to shoot me full of holes and say, oh,
a big shootout with the Pillow guy. You know he
was a conspiracy theorist or whatever it would be. And

(53:08):
I'll tell you, the FBI just gave that phone back
a week ago I got back to Minnesota. It'spect three
years to the day later.

Speaker 10 (53:18):
Okay, and wow, for three.

Speaker 13 (53:20):
Years, remember, everybody, I took that phone to the Supreme Court.
I took it here to the Federal Court in Minnesota,
and it was the principal thing.

Speaker 10 (53:30):
They took the phone.

Speaker 13 (53:32):
And by the way, it comes back, well, there's nothing
to see here.

Speaker 10 (53:35):
So you think of all the phones they took mine.

Speaker 13 (53:38):
They took doctor Franks, they took Conan Hayes, who was
never even brought into the trial with Tina. You know,
there were so many things blocked from coming into that trial,
and that corrupt, evil judge to sit there and go
you would do it again, Yes, she would. She was
out speaking to Saber country. That's what she was doing.
And it's just I'll I'll tell you those FBI guys

(54:01):
at that hearty is three years ago. When after they
you know, I said, I told my buddy. I said,
just I said, something's going down. And I said, don't
just stay here. And I reached out the side door
and I said, who are you? What do you want?
He flipped. He says, FBI says, I don't believe you.
Show me a badge. He showed me a badge. And
I said, how about you, I don't believe you show

(54:22):
me a badge. And he showed me a badge. So
I said, okay, bad guys wouldn't probably carry two badges.
So we pull over there go, we're not arresting you,
but you know, we just want to ask you some questions.
And and I said, no, I want to get arrested.
This is what I said. I want to get arrested.
I want to go to the January sixth trial, even
though I wasn't there. And they go, Mike, we're not

(54:44):
those FBI guys. You guys. I sat there and argued
with those FBI guys. Then I find out two of
them are from Colorado, and I go, oh, this is
about Tina Peters. I said, you should be ashamed of
yourself for bashing doors down there like Sharona Bishop. And
then the FBI guy goes, well, Sharona didn't open her
door fast enough. I said, what are we all supposed

(55:04):
to carry? Little egg timers and go quit? Thirty two
thirty three quick? The FBI's you're open the door before
they bash it down.

Speaker 10 (55:11):
As they're having breakfast with their daughter. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 13 (55:14):
I turned to those FBI guys and I said, you
know what, you guys should be ashamed of yourself. Where's
your moral compass? And they go, Mike, we're just doing
our job. We're just doing our job. I sat there
for an hour and a half. We talked about Jesus.
I sat there and evangelized to them. You know these
people that are or Yeah, we're just doing our job.
So don't tell me. This wasn't a planned federal case.

(55:36):
This was this was an example to show us all,
just like every one of us, if you speak out
and you're avendess, we're going to destroy your business like
my pillow, We're going to destroy everything about you.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
If you speak out like Mike Lindell.

Speaker 13 (55:50):
If you stand up and do your job like Tina Peters,
we're going to destroy you.

Speaker 10 (55:54):
And this is just even recently in.

Speaker 13 (55:56):
Sherry County in Arkansas, they had an election down there.
If you go back two years in Cleveborn County, Arkansas,
they voted out the machines to go to paper. Another
crooked Unit Party Republican named Kim Hammers shoves a bill
through and said, if you're a county in Arkansas and
you go to paper ballots, we're defunding your county. Gee,

(56:18):
who's the governor of that state? Oh, Sarah Huckabee. Okay, Sarah,
why did you let this happen?

Speaker 10 (56:23):
Now?

Speaker 13 (56:24):
Sears County said we're brave, We're brave, and we're gonna
we don't care for your fund it. We're gonna go
and we're gonna do payper ballots. You guys, just a
couple of weeks. But they had to go to like
this board court, this mediation court, board of directors because
they were gonna say they couldn't help in elections for
fourteen years because why because they didn't spend enough money.

Speaker 10 (56:46):
On their elections.

Speaker 13 (56:48):
Give me a break, you know, I told the president
all this it's disgusting the blockers that are out there
and the lawfare that's been done. And the number one
worst person in this country is that it happened to
Tina Peters. She's sitting there in the president when I
met with them, I met with him four times.

Speaker 10 (57:05):
He's getting her out.

Speaker 13 (57:06):
I'm telling you, he said it two weeks ago, he
said Colorado. He said, I want her out now or
things are gonna get you know, things are gonna happen,
gets you, I forget.

Speaker 10 (57:15):
I'm paraphrasing. Well, just this last Wednesday.

Speaker 13 (57:18):
You know, he knows he can get her out as
a under it, as a federal witness in a witness
protection program. And I said, Pina would love to be anywhere,
just out of there. And well, who would be the plaintiff?
I mean, I mean, I'm sorry, who would be the
one that you're a witness against? Well, of course Crooked
and Jenna Griswold, the Secretary of State of Colorado. And

(57:38):
I told the President she's equal to Crook and Brad
Rasenberger down in Georgia, these secretary of states in her country.

Speaker 10 (57:46):
But I get Brad even a little.

Speaker 13 (57:47):
Extra credit because he's got an R before his name.
He's about as evil as it come. Jenna Griswold, which
she did. The felonies she committed. Everybody, these are felonies.
You have to hold your election records for twenty two
months by federal law, twenty five months by Colorado law.
They deleted the trusted bill. That's what Tina did, did

(58:09):
a backup when she heard this was coming. And so
did other clerks, by the way, a couple others. But
of course they got scared when they started to make
an example out of Tina, and you know, and they
grabbed their stuff, right. But when they deleted the twenty
twenty election in my case, where I'm already sued for
billions of dollars by these machine companies, that's called spoliation.

(58:32):
You just threw away evidence. You know, you just erase
the evidence. You know, it's like throwing a gun in
a river going you know, I'm sorry, I threw away
the weapon. I mean, these uh, it's so crooked in Colorado.
And and so I believe that getting her out would
be that would probably be the easiest to take her
out under the Federal Witness Protection program because you know what,

(58:55):
and it says, well, she wouldn't need to be protected.

Speaker 10 (58:57):
Oh I believe she wouldn't. It's funny that she's that they.

Speaker 13 (59:00):
Haven't done when you heard I heard earlier on your
show that she was that you know, said hey, I'm
not suicidal.

Speaker 10 (59:05):
You think of the courage that Tina has. The courage that.

Speaker 13 (59:10):
Tina has that you know she sat before that that judgment.
That judge just belittled her and said, you've been out
there on your show. You know you've been out there,
you would do it again, and you're spewing these lies.

Speaker 10 (59:23):
They were lies.

Speaker 13 (59:24):
She's trying to save her country because it's just like,
you know, I can't even.

Speaker 10 (59:28):
Compare to that.

Speaker 13 (59:29):
And you know I've been I was in solitary ones
for things I've done in the past for nineteen days
once for drinking and violating my monitors and drugs. Nothing
compared to being inside for something you didn't do and
for the length of time it brings.

Speaker 10 (59:43):
It makes me want to cry.

Speaker 13 (59:44):
But I will tell you this, it's every all the
stuff that they've done and attacked and attacked, and so
many people back down, and a lot of them did
once they seen Tina. There were many lawyers that I
could name some that back out and said, well, we're
going to make a deal so that we don't have
to go to jail. Because we were in a different time.

(01:00:07):
And I will tell you there were courageous people down
in Arizona. And this was on a Friday night. I'll
never forget it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:13):
A coach.

Speaker 13 (01:00:14):
He's county and I think another county down there, and
they weren't going to certify their electors the election down,
the crooked election down Arizona. And we had all the
clerks on the phone, and I had Curtles and the
Great Kurtles and on the phone, and I.

Speaker 10 (01:00:27):
Remember the one y'all going, you know, we've been threatened.
We've been threatened.

Speaker 13 (01:00:31):
They say they're going to put us in jail and
if we certify, and Kirk goes, you've done nothing wrong.

Speaker 10 (01:00:36):
You're not going to go to jail.

Speaker 13 (01:00:37):
And I go, Kurt, you can't guarantee that. I said,
not in the times we're in right now. I said,
with this is stuff going on, you can't guarantee that.
And Kirk goes, no, you're right, and I said, I said, ma'am,
when I can guarantee you is? I said, I will
be there for you. I'll try and bail you out.
I'll do everything I can to get you out. If
you guys all be courageous, well I'm not. They all

(01:01:00):
back down because they had such fear another thing. And
you talk about judges and and you know this is all.
This is what Tina Peters stands for. And these were
his courage And I'll tell you judges that are out there,
they're not all crooked. Everybody, they're not all crooked. Imagine
if you're a judge and you get a call going, hey,

(01:01:20):
you're living with a pretty nice family. Anybody that's read
my book when I was in trouble with the mafia
back in the days, owing the money for football best
as a twenty two year old kid, and I'm gonna
get written on paid by tonight. We know you don't
care about yourself, that you're living with a pretty nice family.
These things are by become very real and the fear
just over is overwhelmed me. So a lot of these

(01:01:42):
judges you don't know, but I say, you just brought
it up, and I was gonna bring it up.

Speaker 10 (01:01:46):
Joe brought it up. You guys, there's so much hope.

Speaker 13 (01:01:50):
This judge today that ruled to free or to let
go those charges of those fifteen electors. They were alternate electors,
and in Michigan they were going to get life in prison.
They could get up to life in prison for just
doing their job and for you know, we were in
so many anomalies and we still are and we still are.

(01:02:13):
And this is what I said to you back then.
And I said, and I've told the president this, you know,
a couple of years ago. And by the way, a
couple of years ago, when I introduced Tina Peters to
our president, he called her a hero. Then, by the way,
we were down in mar A Lago, I introduced Tina
the president and he goes, you're a hero. And you know,
now she's now to him, she's like a triple hero

(01:02:33):
of all time.

Speaker 10 (01:02:34):
I was with him. He sat there and then oval
office went for five ten minutes. But he's going to
do everything he can.

Speaker 13 (01:02:42):
But I will tell you this, I told the president, says,
a couple of years ago, or maybe a year, it
might be a little over a year ago. And I said, sir,
I said, I said, two things are happening, because you know,
we we've all had to be patient. And I'm one
of the things if you know me, I mean, you
look up patience. I'm not a patient person. A lot

(01:03:05):
of things done now, so does the President. So to
all of us, well, we've had to learn that. This
is what I told the President. I said, this isn't
on our timing. This has been on God's timing. I said, sir,
if you'd have been put back in back in December
fourteenth or January sixth, or any of those times in
the back, then we would have lost our country forever.

Speaker 10 (01:03:27):
And and we would have lost it. It would be gone.

Speaker 13 (01:03:30):
All this stuff had to happen for many, many reasons,
but for all Now we know where everything's at, we
know the solutions, we know the problems I consider, and
I could do it. I could talk for days. I've
lived it eighteen hours a day, every day for four
and a half years. And the stuff that was gathered
that we have here so far ahead of where we
would be if we just stood by and did nothing.

(01:03:52):
But I told the President, I said, sir, the bad
things that are going on. This is when he kept
getting indicted. I remember saying to him, you know, sir,
you can getting He goes, Mike, what are people thinking
out there? I said, what I said, sir, if you
keep getting indicted, I said, people are pouring into this
bucket from both sides. I said, you're going to end
up with more votes than voters like Pennsylvania, just because

(01:04:15):
the more they attacked, people saw through this fake stuff.
They saw through it. And then I said, sir, there's
two buckets going on. There's a bucket of common sense.

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
That's your bucket, right, the more bad.

Speaker 13 (01:04:26):
Things that happened, they pour into this bucket. And then
I told him, and the other bucket that's going on,
I said, is the bucket of Jesus. And I said,
people don't look to God's sir, when things are going good,
like you had everything going great in December of twenty nineteen.
Everybody's lives had improved, but they weren't looking to God.
In fact, the nation had turned his back on God.

(01:04:48):
When I spoke at the Rose Garden, a nation had
tooken God, taken God out of the school. We were
praying for God's grace, and then God, did you have
this grace these last four years? It didn't feel like
grace what it was? And I said, sir, we're in
the greatest revival for Jesus christ Ever now that same
stuff I told him, and then I told him, man,
I said, sir, he says, but Mike, it's I don't

(01:05:11):
even know we get back in and I don't know
if we can even fix it, and you know, and
everything's just getting destroyed. And I said, Sir, with God,
all things impossible are possible, and Him working through you,
you'll get it done faster and better than anyone in history.

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
And it just the other last.

Speaker 13 (01:05:28):
Wednesday, I reminded him of that, and I said, sir,
you're getting stuff done faster than even I could imagine,
and only he could only be doing this through God
working through him. And he realizes that, and I'll tell
you he there was so much empathy and so much
pain even pouring out of him for Tina Peters as
he sat there and told that, I'm not going to

(01:05:48):
say who else was in the Oval office, but they're
going do you know she's she's going to be seventy
years old, she's a gold star mom, she's a grandma,
and he just went on and on. She needs to
get out now, and he's got the I really believe that.
They you know, the time I was there before last
I've been there four times, and Tina's the first thing
on the list at that time. Everybody he sent. When

(01:06:12):
I was in Colorado in May for my trial, they
sent in they said, he sent all these demands to
Colorado for their election records, okay, for the twenty twenty election,
the twenty twenty two election. I laughed, I said, I
told his lawyers. I said, they don't have any of
those records left. Colorado just deletes the ball I said,

(01:06:34):
there's only one record from the twenty twenty election that
you can find, and it's right up on Lyndelle TV.
And it's been there for over two years, and that's
Tina Peters the Mason County image. Anybody out there. I
have had it up there for two years against the
lawyer Shiw Mike, you should put that up there. We're
going to put up report number three. I said, you

(01:06:55):
know what he goes and you could go to jail.
I said, I don't care. I don't care that. I'm
tired of the people saying there's no evidence, and boom,
there it is, do you know? And we took Tina's
image to the Facebook fact checkers. Alan Duke can lead stories,
and we signed an NDA with them, Kurt Olsen and
I did to get We gave them the image and

(01:07:16):
the Facebook fact checkers, remember everybody, when they covered everything up,
this is false information. They covered up one of my
movies before it even played. And we gave them that
Mason County image for their cyber guys to look at.
They came back to us and said, Yep, it's true.
And I go, Alan, this is Alan Duke. I go, Alan,
tell the world you're.

Speaker 10 (01:07:36):
Gonna be a hero.

Speaker 13 (01:07:36):
I call you a trader every day. You could make
me look wrong to say. Now you could go from
a trader to a hero.

Speaker 10 (01:07:42):
I said, Alan.

Speaker 13 (01:07:43):
In this day and age we're in, you're either a
trader or a hero. There's nothing in between. There's mega
heroes like Tina, but there's nothing in between. And Alan goes, Mike,
we're fase, we're fact checkers. We only tell you when
things are false. It was his way, his way out
of telling the whole country that that imished everything was
true on there. And it's so I just think a

(01:08:06):
Tina in there, the loneliness and they, and I think
what keeps her going is has to be her faith
in God.

Speaker 10 (01:08:12):
Everybody.

Speaker 13 (01:08:13):
I mean, it has to be her faith and all
of you out there and everybody's prayers for her. We
have to get her out. Our presidents all on board
with this. He would have done it the first day,
but there's so many things because they're making it a
state case and they get blocked at every corner, and
because why she stands for just like those fifteen people.

Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
That's a step in the right direction in Michigan.

Speaker 13 (01:08:36):
When that judge did it, that's a brave judge too,
because it's a deep Democrat appointed by Gretchen By and
by her doing that. These you know, this is what
I really believe. And I want to tell you one
last thing, everybody. There's a great plan to secure our elections. Okay,
things are going to come out of Washington, d C.

(01:08:56):
Over the next three to four weeks that are going
to be the most explosive stuff you've ever seen for
evidence and stuff, and it's going to be up to
every one of you watching to get it out there.
So all people, not just the megabase, so your friends,
your family, people that are still on the left for
some crazy reason, people that want to argue about Donald Trump.

(01:09:18):
It doesn't matter, but you need to get them show
them this stuff that are elections we need. One hundred
and thirty two countries have banned electronic voting machines. Over
one hundred countries have banned mail in voting. We are
the worst election platforms in the world. You put that
out there in and then when the President makes his
executive orders and does what I know he's going to do,

(01:09:40):
then he's not going to get pushed back. We still
are at the levels, but we're going to call out
those uni party Republicans like your Robin Voss's, your Rasenberger's,
your your Sarah Sanders, your your Nancy Landry down in Louisiana.
I could go on and on. I'm just tired of
these blockers, but we're going to be block no more.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Michael, Mike, your your enthusiasm, the level of participation, level
of engagement, the level of medication, the financial commitment you've
made to this process on behalf. I personally thank you.
Joe Joe Hoff sitting right here, has done an incredible
job covering the election debacles. He has done a lot
to expose what's going on in oc in Orange County, California.

(01:10:24):
He's done, you know, expose after expose a Roger Arnoff,
who is a genius along with Ed Solomon, looking at
the math and seeing the algorithms and just looking at
the whole picture, which to me looks like something on
an Egyptian wall from you know, two thousand years ago.
They can see the problems, the anomalies, and the tens
of thousands of election volunteers all over the country. It
has been a work of a labor of love. And

(01:10:46):
every single one that I talked to to credit to you, Mike,
it always comes back to you know, this is a
work of God. This is the hand of God. And
you said it, and I laughed when I first heard
it because I couldn't quite understand what you meant by it.
But I see it so clear now, and I think
everybody here would have to agree. It had to happen
this way in order for us to see just how
bad it is, you know, And I just I thank

(01:11:09):
all of you, and I thank the thousands and thousands
of people all over there's you know, all these election
integrity groups that you know, the United South Americans groups.
There's tons of groups all over this country. I can't
even name them all too many, but they've all worked
tirelessly and brought stuff together and we had to push
everything into the middle, and we're seeing it now. I'd
like to do something a little bit sort of unorthodox,

(01:11:30):
but I think it's warranted. Tina Peters is going to
see this one day, I hope. So, I hope it's
before September eleventh to turn seventy. Do you think we
can sing Happy birthday to Tina and close it out?

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Greatty good?

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Okay, ready, I'll start Happy birth Peters. Tina, we love you,

(01:12:07):
Happy seventieth birthday. I hope you're not seeing this behind bars.
That you should be out. Mike Lindell, what is the over?
And on to Tina Peter help by her seventy I
think there's a shot that she'll be out by Thursday,
September eleventh.

Speaker 13 (01:12:18):
Well, we can pray for that. With God, all things
are possible.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Oh someone said yes, Mike, I heard that in the
background somewhere. Ye oh yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:12:36):
And I want to thank you for your voice too,
I mean all of us just you know, your voice
has been amazing out there and you've never stopped, and
you and you're like all all of us. It's like
one big family that have grown together of people that
are contagious.

Speaker 10 (01:12:52):
We all got to be courageous.

Speaker 13 (01:12:53):
Keina Peters has been our leader there and uh and
this is where it's sat, everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
We need to make her the grand marshall of an
election parade when she gets out.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
You know, you know, Mike, Tina Please, Lord.

Speaker 13 (01:13:13):
Lord, we know this has all been for you and
on your timing and your divine appointments that have led
us all together. And we just pray now for Tina's release.
Now we ask her to get out as as fast
as possible. And we asked that that uh, all all

(01:13:33):
of that, all the people, you know, Tina being the
biggest one that they get that you you say you
return stuff sevenfold or that in the Bible you'll give
back sevenfold everything that was stolen from Tina.

Speaker 10 (01:13:44):
She's like, she's like job in the Bible. And uh.

Speaker 13 (01:13:47):
And we just pray, Lord that you've been with her.
We thank you for being with her while she's been
in there, but we pray for her release in Jesus' name.
We pray and we pray that she can come out
there and know that she's been front of the nation's
biggest heroes in history, and that she's also been a
hero in yours in your eyes God, and that she

(01:14:09):
will be rewarded in heaven someday by h and can
lead the parade up there of angels and heroes God
bless amen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Amen, Well, gentlemen, it has been an honor. I just
wanted to rab everybody this is Roger or Arnoff's idea.
So Roger, shout out and credit to you for this.
But thank you. You know you gentlemen are stal War.
And again I would have had one hundred people on here,
but couldn't quite pull it together quickly. Patrick was going
to try and pop in and talk about Serbia. I've
been watching and following the work with Emerald on your network,

(01:14:43):
Mike and the and the reporting she's doing on what's
gone on at Serbia, and Wow, what a story.

Speaker 13 (01:14:48):
Huh Yeah, absolutely, As Serbia goes back, everybody I know
the first year, it's just a side thing. I could
tell you all about Serbia. I actually put a plane.
I paid a lot of money to bring a plane
over there and to bring people out of Serbia, and
it was shot down at the last minute. That was
one of two huge planes I sent over there. And

(01:15:10):
you wouldn't believe the blocks and stuff that went on
to get them people here.

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
These they were whistleblowers back then.

Speaker 13 (01:15:17):
So you know everything, there's only one truth, you know,
every all these different camera angles and these different things,
there's only one truth. People say, well, your evidence isn't real,
Your evidence isn't real.

Speaker 10 (01:15:29):
No, it's all Roger. It's all mathematics, isn't it. It's
all mathematics.

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
It is. It's all right there.

Speaker 10 (01:15:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:15:35):
You know what I said.

Speaker 13 (01:15:36):
Everybody you talk about the place we were in, I
use this example all the time. The place they were
in were mathematical deviations that are one in two trillion
or and then another one one in ten trillion. They
made us believe that, well it could happen. It could
happen when they when they took those when not that
Democrat down in Georgia, her and her husband and daughter

(01:15:59):
got zero votes in her own precinct.

Speaker 10 (01:16:02):
If they went to Gabor, if they would have gave.

Speaker 13 (01:16:04):
Her three votes, you know what they would have said
to her, I'm sorry, ma'am, no one loves you.

Speaker 10 (01:16:08):
No one loves you but your husband and your daughter.

Speaker 13 (01:16:11):
But instead they gave her zero, so they had to
look into it. That's the world we were in and
it's just like you show impossibilities and then it's they
still covered up in possibilities. You know, I stood in
my trial with Alex Halderman and that I'll tell you
in Colorado, and he sat there on that stand and

(01:16:32):
I brought up Alabama's dirty voter rolls and I said,
you know, I showed the crooked Secretary of Saint John
Maryland this summer at twenty one, here's four six hundred
and sixty two people that voted in Alabama, over one
hundred and ten years old, according to your machine. Came
out of your machines. And he looked at me and
he said, well, Mike, he lives. You're pretty good here

(01:16:52):
in Alabama. They asked Alex Halderman. When he thought of that,
he goes, who cares Alabama has voter ID You think
there's people one hundred and fifty years old? This was
Alex Alderman. You know the stuff that went on, the
stuff that's been uncovered. You know that even in my
trial that was uncovered, the Andrew County, Michigan Tree, that

(01:17:12):
big cover up there, that the biggest cover up.

Speaker 10 (01:17:16):
Right away everybody that was a big thing.

Speaker 13 (01:17:18):
And Alex Halderman. We had evidence my lawyers uncovered where
his purport kind of matched. Yeah, there was problem. There
was stuff went on with the machines. He met with
the CEO Dominion and then the same day he met.

Speaker 10 (01:17:32):
With the Attorney General. I think it was Dana Nessel
met with.

Speaker 13 (01:17:36):
Them in Michigan, and his report changed on day three
to all it was all about human air and paper,
had nothing to do with the machine boom.

Speaker 10 (01:17:45):
And he's supposed to be.

Speaker 13 (01:17:46):
What an expert witness. He's another corrupt, CORRUPTI person. And
I'll tell you what when they you know, I told
the president, you know, I said one thing. I said,
We're going to recycle. We're gonna melt down those machines,
turn them into prison bars, and they're gonna be You've
got your Jenna Griswolds and all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Hanging on for dear life arrest.

Speaker 10 (01:18:08):
Yeah. I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:18:09):
I don't know they you know, And and they asked
me that today. My thing is, that's a parallel track there.
My biggest concern is before these mid terms get to
paper ballots hand counted, because you know what, you can
always get those corrupt, evil people. And but right now
we have to get our elections secure. All the it's
all gonna be in vain. They did a poll because

(01:18:31):
I'm thinking of running for governor of Minnesota. I'm very
getting very very close.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
And God announcement.

Speaker 10 (01:18:39):
H yeah, well do it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
You could do it, Mike.

Speaker 10 (01:18:43):
But yeah, that's right.

Speaker 13 (01:18:44):
But the but the the they did a poll. They
did a poll of cards. I'm the only one that
couldn't win. It was waved ahead of any of the
other ones. But one of the things that was interesting
in the poll was what are your when you're voting
much point, tell of your biggest concerns. List them off
in order. You know, normally it's the economy, the border,
you know, abortion, education, election platforms were number two on

(01:19:09):
that list, and a a lot of places in this
country it's the number one concern. Of course, that's a
lot of the swing states. But it don't matter where
you live. You know, is uh, we've got to get
rid of him. And and the president knows that's his
number one concern. He might not tell you out there,
but you guys, did he do a great thing. This
is one of the greatest moves ever. You know, one

(01:19:31):
of the things we're all up against is. We can't
Fox News and Newsmatch and say LA media are never
going to talk about the elections of the past elections
or machines or paper ballots, and it's not going to happen. Well,
our great president, if you remember when he was up
in Alaska after Puttinham, he was live on Fox News
with Sean Henry all over the world tens of millions,

(01:19:55):
hundreds of millions of people. And what does he do.
He brings up we got to get rid of the machines,
go to paper ballot, Sean Handy about had a heart attack,
and yes, in same day voting precinct level. He tried
to erase them, but you didn't even hear machine. He
gets done ballet the most importantly, the machines.

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
Retarded telling him that.

Speaker 13 (01:20:17):
Yeah, said yeah, he told him that about the baillet votes,
and I said the president of Text, I said that
was brilliant, because you know they won't let him say.

Speaker 10 (01:20:27):
Any of that stuff on Fox. You guys, we know
we have won.

Speaker 13 (01:20:32):
When Fox News and Newsmax will finally come out and
say all the stuff that's gonna come out of DC
that's going to be so explosive, you know, it's if
they start reporting that we've had to.

Speaker 10 (01:20:43):
Use the news on the left.

Speaker 13 (01:20:45):
You got CNN saying more stuff about the election stuff.
And how about the mayor of DC when she comes
out and says, hey, the stuff he's doing, he's so bad.

Speaker 10 (01:20:55):
We feel safer.

Speaker 13 (01:20:56):
I mean, this is it's pretty pretty bad when you've
got to our biggest two outlets are like weather channels
that won't report tornadoes or hurricanes.

Speaker 10 (01:21:06):
But that was all planned with law Fair.

Speaker 13 (01:21:08):
Even though I believe foxes in I do believe Fox
is in it, and I'll stand by that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I agree with you. I agree with you. They're definitely in. Well,
you got Paul Ryan over there, say no more right,
You've got Paul Ryin over there. You know the the textbooks,
the history books, If you know history records this accurately,
it's going to be amazing. I'm just wondering, Joe Hoff,
what is what is the What are the people two
hundred years from now going to reflect upon between the
years between two thousand and two thousand and I'm sorry

(01:21:36):
two twenty and twenty and twenty eight. What are they
going to call that eight year window?

Speaker 14 (01:21:41):
What are they going to Yeah, I don't know, but
you know, when Trump stood and we all saw it
and we all were, you know, clinging to our TVs
or wherever we were seeing it, and said, fight, fight, Fight,
it hit me that's going to go down as one
of the most famous, if not the most famous phrase.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
In maybe human history. It's going to be like too
you know, ancient Roman, you know, slogans and sayings. It
is so powerful what he said and if we can
change all this with God's help, only with God's help.
And I love that about Mike saying that said that
early on he was saying, you know, this may be
a real blessing all this and I'm like, I was

(01:22:23):
working so hard just trying to continue to find this stuff,
put it up, keep shoving the truth out there, because
I thought there's no way they're going to certify this thing, right,
And of course it, you know, and it happened. We
were just blown away. But Mike was saying, there's a
reason for this, and I think that's really important, this
this thing and that extra second we saw a miracle

(01:22:45):
when Trump just turned that extra last little turn and
the bullet raised him instead of killing him, and we
saw a miracle.

Speaker 10 (01:22:54):
And it was on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
TV and then he stands up and says, this thing
that's going to be historic, and it's all comes back
act to basically, you know this, this is a battle
between good and evil that's been going on a real,
real long time. It may continue, and we need to
just be real strong in the face of this. We're
not the first people to stand up against injustice, but

(01:23:15):
it's sure, you know, I think all of us will
be like Tina and feel like Tina. We she when
she said to me from prison, you know, less than
a month ago, maybe a week ago, that well I'd
do it again. I mean that just said everything. I
think we all feel that way. We're not going to
allow this country to just fold to a bunch of
you know, monsters.

Speaker 10 (01:23:36):
No way, absolutely right. And do you guys know you
know I was asked that too. You know.

Speaker 13 (01:23:41):
Actually the problem or the crooked criminal attorney that I
called a trader, which they put in as evidence in
the Colorado case, the last thing he said to the jury,
and the judge let him say it. Here's what he
said to the jury. You all know Mike Lindell had
a net worth of one hundred million, and now we've
seen his minus ten million, and we're asking you now

(01:24:03):
for a sixty million dollars settlement here, and you could
go more because if it bankrupts my pillow and Mike Lindell,
we will have sent a message to this country. You
don't put out disinformation about our elections. And the judge
let them say that, you know, And then the media
outside they're going, well, Mike, you know then they got
ahold of that.

Speaker 10 (01:24:23):
Would you if you could turn back time now? Is
it worth it? You lost everything? Whatever? I said, absolutely
have you?

Speaker 13 (01:24:29):
I told you two years ago I'd end up borrowing
money and I have, and I going, there's nothing left
if we lose our country. These guys don't get it.
It's not like I have any choices. Once we all
know what we all know here, and once we've seen
what we've seen, Like Tina said many times, once I've
seen what I've seen, I can't turn back. I can't
go back. I can't just say, oh, I'm afraid. And

(01:24:50):
plus what God puts you here for? Whatever you know?
You know, we hope what God's you know? And another
thing I said to people, you know, I said, and
people would come up. Mike just doesn't feel like grace
like I said at the Rose Garden, and I said yes,
but I said, oh, but it is. And this goes
back to what I was saying for four years, and
you brought up in my life with me, you know,

(01:25:14):
being an ex crack addic and all that. I look
back and I can wow, each thing that happened at
the time was so devastating. But I look back and wow,
that was meant to be in its own way, because
I wouldn't be here if this hadn't happened.

Speaker 10 (01:25:27):
And I told the President.

Speaker 13 (01:25:29):
The President even almost said it word for word when this,
I don't know, maybe a month ago, he said, you
know what, this all had to happen for this term
rather than, you know, rather than back then. And he
gets Joe, there's another famous picture that won't go down
and maybe in history that came out of that shooting.
And if you remember when he was down it, it's

(01:25:50):
taken from underneath and you can see I've talked to him.
That was his moment with God. He sat there and
I could just say, it's like God, thank you. I'm
going to continue on what he was chosen for for
such a time as this. That was a defining moment
and I've talked to you. I said, that's the picture.
But you know, obviously the famous one fight, fight fight,

(01:26:11):
But you had to have that moment down below before
he stood up, because that was God talking to him
and say, you know, and he knows. He said it publicly.
I've saved God saved me. God saved me, he said.
When he was doing a speech one night, he said,
we love you God. I mean, it's just, I mean,
it's just it's been amazing. I've seen I've seen what

(01:26:32):
God's done through him, and then right along with all
of us, right along with what he's been able to do,
it's amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:26:39):
There it is that picture, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:26:41):
So I looked up and I found in Exodus twenty nine,
Aaron is annointed as the priest of the Israelites with
blood on the tip of the right ear, blood on
the right thumb, and blood on the right toe. That's

(01:27:01):
that's what happened to Trump there, right the right thumb,
and his shoes were off, so when he stood up,
he stepped in the blood till he's on his right toe.

Speaker 13 (01:27:10):
It's biblical, yes, absolutely absolutely, As you can see.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
I don't subscribe to CNN, so I'm getting all kinds
of ad garbage on this. Sorry about that. Not much
I could do, but that's that's the I draw the
line at that. I won't subscribe for the scumbacks anyway.
Just remarkable, It's it's really remarkable times. And the books
that will be written from this time period are going
to be pretty extraordinary. Joe, I'm sure you're going to

(01:27:37):
author a few. Mike, I'm sure you will. Roger, you will. Uh,
I've got a right one. I've got a story to
tell as well. But We've all and there's just going
to be so much that, like I said, everybody's pushing
their poker chips in. The truth is all coming together
now and it's sifting. And have there been a lot
of oops, a lot of infiltration by intelligence community people
that steer a lot of us wrong, myself included. That's okay.

(01:27:59):
We have tone for our sin. When we find out
where wrong, we explain it, we shout it from the rooftops,
and we move on. I mean, we've all had to
learn together a lot and in a very short amount
of time, and it's been a fire hose. But they
were done. They're not getting this over on us anymore.
And the people are rising up and speaking, not just
in our country, but worldwide. And Tina represents I think
liberation for people around the world because she helped catch them.

(01:28:21):
She helped catch what the CIA was doing with smart
matic and with you know, countries like Serbia around the world.
And God bless you, Mike. I've spoken to the people
that were on the plane that you paid for to
go over to Serbia. I heard about the windshield story
and the whole thing. You know, you spend a fortune
trying to during COVID. During COVID, you spent a fortune
trying to get to the truth and get and bring

(01:28:43):
the whistleblowers back.

Speaker 13 (01:28:44):
And you know, one of the things I'll never forget
you guys, is they leave. This was January of twenty one,
when of course I was getting attackers in all the
box stores. I was in the news every single day,
the famous picture of me at the White House on
the phone, and but I got called from the Serbia
Underground and they I'm not Serbia, Venezuela Underground. I was

(01:29:07):
on the phone with them, I'll bet you ten times
in January all these sp I mean Venezuelan's on the phone.
And they told me they go, don't ever give up.
They said, we have lost our country, and we prayed
for the last twenty years that it would happen to
the United States and then it would be all uncovered
and you would it would in turn free our country.

(01:29:28):
And they had tears in their eyes, pleading with me
not to give up. I'm going, this is just surreal.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
And do you know, Michael, Mike, when I was in
the Darien Gap with Michael Jahan last year and we were,
you know, watching the Venezuelans that were still coming through
before this, before the election, I said, you know, they
told us that eighty percent of our country had left
and come to America. And I said, you understand what's
going on in America right now. If President Trump doesn't
win this election, you've got Biden, which is just as

(01:29:56):
bad as Maduro or Shava is so or worse, right,
And they said, you know, we're coming to your country
now to help you fight, because you are. We need
you to win. We need Trump to win. We're not
going to let America become Venezuela. And I was sitting
there going, oh my god, because these people have nothing
I know, And now have I seen a lot of
bad people coming through the trendy a rogue that Biden
invited in there absolutely, but then they had real Venezuelans

(01:30:18):
who were they had nothing to lose except they saw
America was the only hope. And then they're coming to
help you Americans because you cannot let your country go down.
I thought, oh my god, this is this is a
real world event, trying to lift us up. And you know,
we're God's second covenant nation, so we have a duty
and responsibility, you know, and our role in humanity. And
it's just it's really quite remarkable. This whole thing has

(01:30:39):
been such an epic journey.

Speaker 10 (01:30:40):
No, it really is. I was.

Speaker 13 (01:30:42):
I know, the one thing I told them because I
had the evidence, you know, to all the evidence I had.
Then I said, you guys, I got all the evidence.
I said, don't worry, it's gonna happen real fast. And
I'm all excited at Voyds.

Speaker 10 (01:30:54):
Little did I know we'd be talking here four and
a half years later.

Speaker 13 (01:31:00):
I go, and I will say this, you know, one
of my most defining moments I remember is when I
tried to get to the president on January fifteenth, and
this was to sign Dennis Montgomery's gag.

Speaker 10 (01:31:12):
Or to release that right.

Speaker 13 (01:31:14):
And I was on the phone with Ben Carsi. We
had become really good friends and he had dug into
all this. And after I get shoot out of the
White House, I remember going across the bridge in the
Virginia and Ben calls me up.

Speaker 10 (01:31:26):
He said did he sign?

Speaker 13 (01:31:27):
And I said, I was just so down and read
and it's almost in tears, like here, I think we
have the key to the whole world sitting in a.

Speaker 10 (01:31:35):
Lamp and its failed. I failed. And he and Ben Calmon,
you know his comvoys.

Speaker 13 (01:31:38):
He goes, well, Mike, you know, he goes, God doesn't
look at days like November three or January sixth or
December fourteenth. Maybe things have to happen on God's timing
before all the truth can come out. And I sat
there and it just gave me a peace, those words
like I've never forgot and I go.

Speaker 10 (01:31:59):
You know what, Ben, you probably right.

Speaker 13 (01:32:01):
And as soon as I got across in Virginia, my
daughter sins he in TEXTA goes, what are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:32:06):
Get out of there.

Speaker 13 (01:32:07):
It's the picture of me at the White House with
Marshall law papers hanging out.

Speaker 10 (01:32:11):
Of my right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
I remember that We're all like, what the hell is
what doing now?

Speaker 13 (01:32:22):
And then here's a little side bit for all of you.
Those weren't my papers. Those come from some lawyers as recommendations.
I had never read it to this day, but on
there on there it says.

Speaker 10 (01:32:33):
Kurt Olsen, right, So Kurt Olsen.

Speaker 13 (01:32:36):
I didn't know Kurt Olsen from the Man in the
Moon and Kurt sitting it home with his wife or whatever.
And all of a sudden you see this pillow guy
on TV with Marshall law papers nine days after January sixth,
with Kurt Oltson written on the paper up and then

(01:32:56):
and then we become best friends of the rest of
history of that bar.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Oh my god, what a ride. What a ride? And
you gave me a ride one time, Mike too. I
got stranded because I was on the domestic terror list
and my flight got canceled, and it was a it
was a hella. Trying to get from your one of
your other symposiums of not the yeah, the Moment of truth, Yeah,
in Missouri, trying to get back. I got to ride
on one in your plane one time to Virginia so
I can catch another plane home. And then it's just

(01:33:23):
been trained planes and automobiles. What a ride. Yeah, we're close,
We're really close.

Speaker 6 (01:33:30):
They put me on it when I went when I
was on the way to Arizona to do a show
with this Harris and boy, the four asses on the
bottom of your boarding pass, that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Was me every week, six eight times a week, dude,
I was That was every I got the second base.

Speaker 13 (01:33:48):
Yes, you know, I've had to sell my plane since
I'm with it going broke. But they are, but they
before that, I had only flew commercial the one time,
and it was during the China virus. Well that's the
only time I wore a mask, you guys. So I'm
in the airport wearing this van. So I don't you
like to get recognized. Well, we get up to the
TSA and he has me pulled me.

Speaker 10 (01:34:09):
Are you Mike Lindell? He goes, can I get your picture?

Speaker 13 (01:34:11):
The people are pulling down masks the pictures because everybody
I was all on board. And another funny one was
with Kurt Olsen. So then when Kurt Olson I finally
got together, this was the first day and everybody when
I told Dominion to sue me, I said, show me dominion,
sue me Dominion because I wanted them to sue me.

Speaker 10 (01:34:32):
Well.

Speaker 13 (01:34:32):
Here, the day they sued me was the first day
I met Kurt Olson and we were sitting down in
mar A Lago at the out by the beach there
on that little cafe. He's just him and I And
the first call was the New York Times, I believe,
and I go, I go, I go, yeah, I gotta
take this call.

Speaker 10 (01:34:48):
And she gets how I put her on speaker. She goes,
she goes, you just got sued by Dominion. Mike, what
do you feel?

Speaker 13 (01:34:53):
I said, it's a great day for America because they
call it. I said, this is a great day. I said,
you know, because the media as they'd attacked me. That's
all I had was to go, we gotta get rid
of them a change.

Speaker 10 (01:35:11):
That's a great day. They suit me. All the evidence
will come out.

Speaker 13 (01:35:14):
They conchlurred that that's who I am.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
That was it.

Speaker 10 (01:35:17):
He goes, that's kind of weird twist. He goes. I said,
oh yeah, that's the only way I get the word out.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
That's it, discovery, discovery, that's.

Speaker 10 (01:35:27):
Exactly well, that's what should have happened.

Speaker 13 (01:35:29):
I didn't know they'd be fifty million dollar lawsusaid, and
do you know my Dominion and Smartmatic has put out
two more years. And Dominion actually said, I think my
one attorney said something to him, Yeah, would you settle
if Mike Lindell just walked away and win bad Moulty anymore?

Speaker 10 (01:35:45):
And they said yeah. I said, don't be telling that.
I won't settle with them. Ever.

Speaker 13 (01:35:49):
I said, oh yeah, I'm gonna walk away and not
say anything that rhymes with Dominion. And then my lawyers
in Colorado, this is the best my lawyer gets up
there his opening statements. He goes, I wanted to be
known that Mike is an equal opportunity machine basher. He's
just after es and heart as much as dominions equally.

Speaker 15 (01:36:10):
Okay, I can tell you because I can tell you
they're all the same. They have we found the same stuff.
We found the same stuff lockstep motion and these quaternionic
rigs in Maryland that has.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
The S and s exactly the same.

Speaker 10 (01:36:27):
Absolutely absolutely incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Well listen, gentlemen, I've kept you guys on long enough.
God bless you. I love all of your amazing men.
They are just incredible fighters. Tina Peters is an amazing
woman and a very lovely, lovely lady. I've had the
opportunity to spend private time with her, personal time with her.
On several occasions. We've bunked together in hotel rooms and
we've had to have you know, personal heart to hearts.

(01:36:51):
And she's a real lady, a real lady, a real fighter,
a real patriot, and probably one of the greatest Americans
that will walk the plan. You know, if Trump gets
his face on Rushmore, probably Tina Peter should be somewhere
up there alongside him alone. Probably the three of you will.
But uh, you know, this country is being resounded because

(01:37:12):
of the work.

Speaker 13 (01:37:13):
And I gotta tell this funny story about so Tinah. First,
when we first met, we only met at the cyber Symposium.
Well yeah, no, maybe maybe I actually was down to
my allot. I don't know if it was a monthly
or whatever. And I get this text and it said
they're saying there Tina Peters, and I go, you're a bot.

(01:37:36):
I go, don't tell me you're I said, you're about
That's how I would answer. And she sends me another text, No,
I'm really Tina, I go bot, leave me alone. Whatever,
Because I would have all these bots attackment things.

Speaker 10 (01:37:45):
So she calls up. I think she She goes, Mike,
call me a bod.

Speaker 13 (01:37:52):
He joked about that because I go her name wasn't
in there, and I go, uh, but it was so funny.

Speaker 10 (01:37:59):
She goes Mike. I had no idea it was really her.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Oh that's classic. Oh my God, Like I said, the
books that will be written, the movies that will be made,
epic stuff, epic epic stuff. Well, gentlemen, God bless you.
Happy birthday, Teena Peters. You are loved. You are so
loved and revered and respected by billions, not just millions.
Billions will know her name, for sure, Billians will know
her name's She was the lunch pin there and she

(01:38:29):
didn't realize how big what she did was going to be.
But you know, she said she'd do it again. And she's,
you know, eleven months almost twelve months in prison, incredible,
she would do it again. I hope and pray. I'm gonna,
you know, pray. I hope everybody tonight. You know, when
we hang up here, everybody please spend some time in
pray for Tina Peter's release. Immediately pray before her seventieth

(01:38:49):
this Thursday on September eleventh, another day of this country
has had to endure since another anniversary on that awful day.
But the truth of that's coming out. There's some big
events happening tonight and this weekend of about nine to eleven.
The truth about all that's coming out. So that's a
floodgate right now. And Tina Peters, you're a tip of
the spear because I believe liberated billions of people from

(01:39:09):
tyranny of stolen elections around the world. God bless you,
bless you. Mike Lindell, Thank you so much, Joe Hoft,
the incomparable Joe Hoff and Roger Arnolf, thank you so
much for your time this evening. Gentlemen, You're just all
heroes to me. God bless you, thank you, thank you
all right, guys, good night, all right, everybody, Thanks so

(01:39:29):
much for being here. It's been a wild ride as always,
and what a time to be alive that we are
all here for such a time as this. You were
all chosen to be here, as was Tina Peters, as
were those fine gentlemen. And it's my honor to talk
with you again this evening. And thank you so much
for your support over the years. It's been really fun
and I'm going to continue to do the work I'm doing.
I'm doing a lot more advocacy, a lot more action

(01:39:50):
oriented work. There's incredible people out there covering the news.
But when I think a story is important, I'm going
to come on and talk to you about it. So
until the next time, God bless you, I love you,
and check out my website at Vanderstiel dot com. And
also the work that we did with the documentary we
dropped on child Protective Services. We exposed them in a
big way. We've got a massive federal lawsuit we're dropping

(01:40:11):
and some other lawful actions and litigation we're bringing to
the state of Massachusetts on their unlawful actions towards people
that have their children taken by child protective services. Till
next time, everybody, good night,

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