WE CHAT WITH NAVY SEAL JIMMY WATSON THE MIGHTY WARRIOR

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Jimmy Watson. You can find themover at Instagram at Mighty Warrior twenty
twenty three. It's Mighty Warrior twentytwenty three. It's the retired Navy COEO
United States Marine but he's also aCEO coach and speaker rise until lambs become
lions, as the motto. Youcan find more about him at Jimmy Watson
dot co. Jimmy Watson dot co. Before we get started, folks,

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Welcome to the show, Jimmy Watson. Welcome, sir, welcome,
welcome. Thank you so much forhaving me on. Let's do this all
right, thank you very much fordoing this. And I forgot to mention
this before the show. Thank youvery much for your service as well.
Oh, thank you very much.I appreciate that. So, Jimmy,

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like I told you before the show, this my show tends to be a
little different. It's to give peoplea different perspective of the Special Forces operation.
And my first question always is whatmotivated you to become a Navy seal?
Is this something you watched on TV? I don't even know there were
TV shows in twenty years. Wasit a movie? Was it a relative?
What motivated you? You know,I think it's a combination of a

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couple of things. Watching movies,you know, platuon Rambo, that was
one with the It was like calledFox the Pin or something. I don't
know, but there was a lotof war movies where I was going up.
Man, I just wanted to bepart of the war or some type
of battle. You know, kidsthese days, they run around with sticks,

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they pretend like their spears of bazookas. You try to put them in
the house. They start watching Callof Duty, or they start playing Call
of Duty, they play Fortnite,they build forts. We as men especially,
we want to fight some type ofbattle. We want to go on
some type of adventure, and wewant to rescue the beauty from the dragon

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or the castle proverbally speaking. Sothese are my This was what I'm not
really the beauty thing yet from thedragon, but I really wanted to be
part of the war. I glamorizedit. I don't know where I got
it. My dad and my momwere not big heavy on it, but
they didn't prevent it. They justkind of allowed me to do whatever I
wanted to do. And man,I just read all the books, and

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really it all started out me hearingabout green Berets and my dad talking about
only you know, one hundred menwill test today, only three will win.
The green bereat Man. I meanyou just could like that was my
cup of tea, and that's whatI wanted to do. And I kind

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of evolved after a period of timeinto this whole I want to go do
the seals. I want to gofor the hardest thing I can think of.
Now it's arguably the hardest trading whatever, it doesn't matter. What mattered
to me was man, that's Iwanted to do something powerful. But the

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problem is a lot of times Itell a lot of people this now is
the problem is I had that lion'sharm, but I didn't have the physicality
and I didn't have the aptitude.I wasn't picking up when the other kids
were putting down. So when Ithink about this original question, when I
think about how far I came andthe journey it was and how difficult it

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was, almost brings me to tearsbecause it was a major, major challenge.
That's interesting. So were you motivated? I mean in high school you're
still geared up for it, andthen you did you even bother with college
and you just go straight into themilitary. I literally was taken out of
school when I was like fourteen yearsold. I was wild you know,

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drop out, high school drop out. But I knew what I wanted to
do. I wanted to go servein some kind of battle. I wanted
to go to war. I wantedto serve right in the military. So
I had this stuck in my head. Like I said, I wasn't athletic
though, so I had a longroad ahead of me. But ended up
doing the twenty year college degree program, you know, one credit here,

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one credit here, and eventually inthe steal teams, I did get an
organizational leadership degree from the University ofCharleston, West Virginia. So really,
right, that was a long road. So what did you think? Why
did you choose the Seals instead ofthe Berets. I know there's a little
rivalry between you guys, but whywould you choose the Seals over the Bereads.

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I just kept on reading on it, I kept on watching stuff,
and I think I finally came tothe conclusion like I want to go for
the hardest thing out there. Youknow, it looked like I think it
was after the documentary what was it, two three four Class two three four
kind of a famous documentary that cameout, and I really saw like man

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this is like the hardest thing Ican possibly imagine, and so the cold
water, the elements, and Ijust thought, Man, I've got to
go try this or I'm gonna losemy freaking mind. And you know,
most of my life has been basedon living without regret. But a lot

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of times when we do that,we live with a lot of regret because
we do some crazy stuff and whileit stuff along the way, and that
was kind of my journey. Man. That's interesting. Yeah, it's almost
like you can't get away from regret. Sometimes matter what you do, you
do it or you don't do it. You spookout. Regret. Oh man,
oh man, A lot of alot of a lot of regret.
A lot of great things that happenedin my life, a lot of wonderful

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things. But you know, that'sthe power of God in my life is
starting over, the ability to startover. You know, Man, Man
has a hard time allowing you tostart over. Man doesn't really allow you
to move forward a lot of times, and they hold things over your head
and it's hard to remove yourself froma darker past like me sometimes. But

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one of the beautiful things that Ilove about God is that man, he's
really good at giving your new beginningsand redemption. And I'll tell you,
like Lazaruth coming out of the caveman after four days of being dead,
I'll tell you that's been me acouple times. Rescue from prison, rescue
from death, and rescue and rescuefrom a lot of stuff. Man.

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And I know we're going to getto your tribe in a little bit too.
I know a lot of soft operatorsout there that we've interviewed have shared
their stories about the difficulty of transitioningout going one hundred and fifty miles an
hour to ten miles an hour.And You've made a lot of great points
before the interview. But before weget to that, I did want to
ask a couple more questions. Iusually take this down like a developmental states.
We're kind of going through adolescence inthe young young twenties kind of thing.

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But before we get to that,it sounds like you were always kind
of a warrior inside your heart,even as a little boy, a war
your heart, you know what Imean, like just aspiring decided to do
something big and yeah, so Idefinitely had that warrior heart. But the

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problem was the physicality, you know, And I just I wasn't like that.
I wasn't like the star football player. But something, man, that
just blew my mind down down theroad. And it's so deceptive now,
you know, because you look atsocial media and you see these muscled up,
athletic guys, you know, likeI don't know if I could ever
do that, or or you seesomething hard like the Seals, and you

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can just imagine that only like thetop notch guys make it through seal trading.
Well, what I found out throughthe process, just taking one step
forward at a time, was thatI found out in the process that the
guys that were making it were justlike me. They were like we call
the Seals the sled dogs. Theywere the guys that had super hard or

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bad upbringings. They were the guysthat were maybe abuse used by their dads.
Now I was I had an awesomebother figure in my life. Just
just you know, when you talkabout some big shoes, the field technic,
judge, preacher, broad dust,all this stuff, landowner, petroleum
technology, theology degree, you know, all this stuff to them complude,
you know, and and here Iam, I could barely learn math,

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you know what I'm saying. Sofor us a lot of frustration growing up.
But when I realized that was partof my training, that was the
forging of the fire, was thehardships. If if I didn't have those
hardshifts in my life, if Ididn't have the forging of the sort in
all these these painful memories in difficulttimes, going through this process, in

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struggles until training, almost selling,you know, writing right on the cusps,
being gooned all the time because Iwas a bigger guy. What I
finally went through, you know,over compensating with muscles and stuff by all
like, uh, if I didn'thave those trials and tribulations, I want
be where I am today, forsure, I sure as head would have
become as heal. Because they're notlooking for the all stars, they're looking

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for the war dogs, the sleddogs. And so back to your point
or back to your question, isyou've got to have a warrior's heart,
you know, and a lot ofmen have a warrior's heart, but maybe
they don't have the aptitude, maybethey don't have the athleticism or the physicality
right now. But all of thatstuff comes when you focus on you,

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when you focus on your heart inthe right pace, like your destiny where
you want to go, all thatstuff comes It took a while for me.
It never came easy for me.Nothing ever came easy for me.
I'm the guy that does it twentytimes, has to beat the door down,
has to fail, get back,gets back up seven times, reattacks,
and then finally it comes true andeverybody looks at you and goes,

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man, that must have been easyfor you. It was hell, it
was difficult. That's the whole pointthough. Right absolutely make such great points
too, because it's a really interestingstory. And I mean, one thing
I have heard is the soft Imean once the thing I've have learned.
I've interviewed over one hundred and fiftysoft operators from around the world, and
it's the mindset that you have isvery different than a lot of people.

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You won't give up. It's veryhard for you guys to give up.
Resilience is incredible. You bounce backfrom everything. And well, I'm trying
to ask you this one question,but I'm wanting to see if I should
wait. But I'll make that commentfirst and see what you say. So
that's one of the things I havelearned because I've had several seals who told
me the same thing as you justsaid with regards to Bud's training. I've
seen the guys that are six fourstar football players and they are gone in

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a week, and then other guysYou're like, this guy will never make
it, but he never gives upand he makes it all the way through.
It sounds like that's what you saw. Yeah. Yeah, when the
sun finally came out, you know, in Helly after healthy the sun literally
came out for the first time,literally came out, and then they turned

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us around and they secured us forhell Week. And I was so pissed
because it was so dang cold inthe winter class and it even had we
even had the newspaper clipping it wasthe coldest winner since nineteen eighty the newspaper
clipping. It was like joke sawon me, a dark cloud over my
life a lot of times. Well, well, when we graduated, I
had to make new friends. Youhear what I'm saying. I help the

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audience. Here's this. I hadto make new friends because every single guy
that I thought was gonna make itand that I buddied up with because if
I know he's if he don't makeit. I'm not gonna make it.
That was completely opposite. I literallylooked around my small little hell week class
that graduate with me and I hadto literally go, hey, man,

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what's going on? My name isstudy. I had to make new friends
because the guys that I thought wouldwould remain the I mean strong guys.
You know a front squaw four hundredpounds, run in six six and a
half and mouths all day long inthe stamp. Those guys were washed out.
It was crazy. Man, thatdoes sound crazy. I guess this

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is the question I wanted to askyou too. You you mentioned physicality,
but you also mentioned courage. Ithink you might have alluded to it,
at least if you didn't mention it. And I think today's world, because
you talked a lot about males,right, a lot about men. In
today's world, we are seeing thiskind of divide, right, We're seeing
two different types of guys coming outright now in the world. And there

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seems to be a lot of guysyou want to try to connect with that
warrior spirit in them. And Iguess my question to you would be,
does courage have to only be aboutgoing into a gun battle, going into
a fight or is it? Canit also be something like, hey,
I don't want to do this,and I'm going to tell somebody I don't

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want to do this. Being ableto even say things to make create boundaries
for yourself, or to not cheaton your wife. Sometimes people don't look
at that as courage, but itseems to me a lot of times there's
a lot of people who'll just givein and not have the courage and sick
up for certain things in their lives. And it doesn't require that. Would

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that be fair? Now? Yeah? Absolutely? I was thinking about that
today, about apologizing. You know, we get in such a we get
in such a a routine by apologizingto people like, hey man, sorry
about that. Sorry for mister yourcall. Sorry I couldn't make that.
How about sorry, these are myboundaries. Sorry this this can't happen anymore,

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like being unapologetic for the right thingsin your life, which are boundaries,
like hey man. Like something thatI that I constantly preach in my
in my warrior classes in my tribeis is having the courage to fail.
Having the courage that. Now,that's on another level of courage, like
courage is not like going all outwhen you have to strength to do it.

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Like Napoleon said, courage is goingon when you actually have no strength
left to do it and you're ninetyninety point nine percent going to fail.
That's real courage. To fall againand again, to be the Theodore Roosevelt
man in the arena. That's courage. You know, the cynic, the
synic brother is part of the crowd. Anytime I find myself judging somebody,

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or laughing at somebody, or talkingtrash about somebody, which I have found
myself doing, I automatically go,Jimmy, shame on you, bro,
shame on you. You're the guyin the crowd. You're not the man
in the arena. You're just anotherperson in the crowd. That's all you'll
ever be until you choose daily tohave the courage to step into the arena.

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Part of that courage that you alludedto, you said, is is
hey, man, how about havingthe courage and fortitude and power to control
your eyes. Your eyes are thewindow to your heart. Like like,
there's a lot of beautiful people inMiami, beautiful women and something, and
I live in Miami. I youknow, it's important as a man.

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You know, masculinity besows masculinity.It's important for me to not only say
this in my warrior groups, butto actually walk the walk brother and say,
you know what, I'm going tocontrol my eyes because I'm compromising on
myself being a married man, allright. And I would say it even
is even more so with a singleguy, like you're compromising your integrity.

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You're compromising yourself as a man whenyou're like, all googly, I'm staring
at some girl, you know,lusting after her, all these different all
these thoughts because you're actually compromising andwasting your time. Because the right when,
when the right person is going tocome along, when you're right in
your life, when you've got itright, it'll come along right absolutely.

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And it reminds me of a coupleof males that I've talked to over the
years in my work, and itwas interesting because they viewed I remember telling
them, Hey, you lost yourjob and you had a family, but
you hustled. You took jobs thatyou wouldn't have taken before. They paid
low. They weren't what you werecapable of doing, but you knew what
you had to do while you werelooking for the job that paid. And

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I said that takes courage because otherpeople won't and it really takes a lot
of a lot of courage inside ofthat person and a lot of humility to
do those things. Yeah, Iwas, man, this is crazy story.
But I was doing a job withsome other seals a while back,
and you know, we were talkingabout jobs that we had taken, and

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if you heard some of these jobs, you just wouldn't imagine those fuel you
know, would be doing these kindsof jobs. But it's true. It's
like you gotta do what you gottado to to support and provide for your
FAMMI. One of the guys whowas standing across from us, and believe
it or not, he started talkingabout how he worked for a cryogenic company
that freezed his body and his jobwas literally he thought it was going to

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be to recover these people on hospicewhen they die and then help the doctors
freeze these people. These people arepaid a couple hundred thousand dollars, right,
Well, his job was to literallyremove the heads of these of these
people. I know, that soundscrazy. Me, me and the guys

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in the car were just in shockat this guy, and he was like,
dude, he goes. I justI couldn't believe the point that I
had gotten to where I was takingthis job in helping and assisting this other
person to remove this head. They'reactually going to do a documentary on this
crowd setting stuff. It is absolutelylucros how people are paying insurance to do

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this and then they don't know thatthat's happening to him after they die,
they have no idea some random contractoris removing their head to put it in
a cryo freezing thing. I knowit sounds crazy, but it does sound
crazy, but not surprising anymore intoday's world. Yea. By the way,
folks, again, we're talking toJimmy Watson, retire Navy ceil.

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You can find out more about himat Jimmy Watson dot co Jimmy Watson dot
co or you can head over toMighty Warrior twenty twenty three on Instagram Mighty
Warrior twenty twenty three on Instagram.I guess we're gonna before we head over
to the Mighty Tribe and I thinkthat's what it's called, and we'll find
out more about that, but beforewe get to that, I always,
you know, the listeners always wantto and We're always curious. Is there

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any mission that sticks in your head? This might be the toughest question of
the dayca There's probably a lot ofthem, But anything that stands out,
whether that it changed you for thebetter, for the worse, something that
was funny, something that was emotional, whatever it is that you want to
share, Any mission that stands outto you. Yeah, I was a
team leader of I was this teamleader in Blackwater of the Red c Cell

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team that actually went out and itwas part of the Niestar Square, the
infamous Bagdads, Bloody spund Day.The only reason why I mentioned this right
now is there comes a time inevery man's life where you're going to have
to make it decision and that decisioncould radically change your life forever. It

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could destroy you, It could killyou, It could kill some teammates,
as extreme as that is, butit really could ruin your life, that
that choice that you make. Butyou have to the reason why it's so
important to think about decisions and then, like Marcus Tredias said, meditate on
that decision for a long time.But when you finally, when you finally

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make that choice, you go,you pull that trigger and you don't ever
look back. And I had tolearn that the hard way. But I
always go back to my decision togo out that day. And although the
guys were parted years later by Charlesor the guys under me, I have
to go back to that day andsay, do I regret that decision or
did I make the best call thatI could at that time? And man,

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this pours over into relationships. Alot of men that I coach and
speak to have so many regrets,and I always ask him, yeah,
but go back to that moment.Would you have really changed your decision at
that time, because there's a reasonwhy you did what you did. Sometimes
it's like, yeah, I havea total regret. Sometimes it's no,

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Man, you know what, Imade that choice and now I got to
stick with it. Now I'm goingto take full responsibility and ownership of that
decision to go out that day,right or wrong. I made the choice
based on what was given to me, the information, the sensory overload,
the bomb going off, the blastingoff, the gunshots, the time of

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the day, the situation, thestrapping on my leg at the time,
all these different things I had tocompute within seconds of a minute or two,
and then I had to make achoice as a young man twenty seven
years old with a little with combatexperience, but not enough, you know,
So we got to make choices inour life. I sometimes they're gonna

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be devastating, sometimes they're gonna havemajor repercussions. But the biggest thing in
life is back to the man inthe arena, is getting back up,
even after you've made that bad decisionor good decision, getting back up and
moving forward and trying to learn fromyour past mistakes and do the very best

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that you can. That's good advice. Jimmy, I always ask this question.
I don't know if you're familiar withJoseph Campbell's work, The Hero's Journey,
Are you a Harry Potter fan.If you're a Harry Potter fan,
Harry Potter is after my time.Yeah, my niece I had to watch
all night Harry Potter's like ten timesbecause I kept falling asleep and my niece

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would make me want to repeat itno matter how far we were in two
three hours. If you fell us, if you've knotted off like your buds
and still dread, you go rightback to the beginning. Man well and
Harry Potter, you know he wasassigned to I think he didn't want to
deal with right. He just wantedto go to the wizard school and deal
with whatever was going on. You'dbecome a wizard. He didn't want to

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have to fight Voldemore and all thisother crap that he had to deal with.
But who Harry Potter came out ofthat journey, the hero's journey,
as it's called, was a differentperson. He became better and stronger and
learned about himself. And I guessmy question to you, the Jimmy Watson
that went into the Navy Seals andthe Jimmy Watson that came out, what
would you say is different between thosetwo. Jimmy Watson's the guy that the

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guy that went in there was lofty, was was sacrificial, like I'm gonna
die for my country. I'm gonnadie for this guy. I'm gonna jump
on the bomb ber, I'm gonnajump on the grenade, so to speak.
I don't know if I really would, but but that's my kind of
crazy, wild attitude. I don'tI don't change that aspect of me,
but I just like you look ata photo and you go, what the

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hell was I wearing in that photo? And this happens what every five years
we look at photos and we go, my goodness, look at my haircut.
Oh my gosh, what the heck? Who? Like, how could
I I can't even believe I werethat. You know, is the same
way we look back in our past. We look back five ten years ago
and we just go, oh,my gosh, man, I needed so

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much growing up and maturing to do. And I know five years from now,
I'll look back at me now andgo, man, I had so
much to learn. So it's aprocess for me, brother, always learning
from my mistakes, learning from myregrets. One of the one of the
biggest regrets that you'll ever have isnot learning from your regrets. That's the

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biggest regret, and that's hard tolive with. It's super hard to look
at yourself in the mirror if youmake the same mistake two three times in
a row. So try to miniminimize those mistakes and try to kind of
not repeat that bad behavior. There'sa point in our life where we have

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to just sometimes grap what we thoughtwas good for us. You know,
I have a mentor that once toldme what allowed us to survive in one
period of our life will kill usin the next. And that's been so
true in my life, that onething that got us through one period of
our life, that we were likeday, we try again. No man

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steps in the same river twice,because he's never the same man, you
know, And so we go inthe future, we try to do the
same things. It may not evenbe a bite, it may just be
bad habits and weird stuff. We'regood that stuff will eventually kill us down
the road, and so I tryto not make those I try to change
things up and not be afraid tochange, open my mind to new ideas

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and sharpen that iron. You know, that's good. I guess this is
a great segue into the Mighty TribeWarrior what's it called Mighty tribe and you
could go a Mighty Warriors tribe.I just feel like there's such a need
for a now and so yeah,So it's the Touch Boyd Nation. It's
an all men's group where I guessmen are gathering from all around now,

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congregating from all around, even fromAustralia some other locations at locations and guys
were gathering and I do two bigtalks a week, and there's not many
programs out there like this. Iknow there's some great ones, okay,
but mine is different in that wemeet twice a week for one hour,
so if you missed one, youcan get the other one. And I
can't tell you. I didn't evenknow the importance of accountability until I started

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my own group. At first,I started in as like the skilled mindset.
Now it's turned into an incredible spiritualjourney, Jesus based, God based.
It's not a church. Look,as men, we need real church.
We need a real place where wecan gether as a group of men
and b men. You know,if you're gonna throw the F bomb,

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throw the F bomb if you ifyou if you got laundry to error out?
Man, okay, man, Igot a porn addiction. I can't
break well, let's help you out. Man. Let's get accountable, all
right. I can't get off thesedrugs to me. Let's let's hold you
accountable for what's in your life.Let's break that shade of addiction. And
guys are coming in this warrior groupthat I got going on, and I

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know it's not some magical one thatI have from Harek Potter. It's it's
literally guys who are coming in andthey get that accountability and they go,
Man, this works. I haven'tI haven't done drugs, I haven't drank,
I saw smoking cigarettes, all thesebad has, all these different things
in their life. They're just settingoff cutting the fat fat, cutting everything

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that's not necessary in their life.And man, it's been huge for guys.
A lot of testimonials that come outof it, and it's about accountability.
Man, that's awesome. Tell mea little bit about what what's the
what are some of the main howwould you say challenges these individuals are having
when they come to the group.In other words, are you seeing any
patterns or themes? Like wow,I keep seeing this over and over again.

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Yeah. One of the things thatI focus in on this group is
helping men out there find their purpose. And we actually get a little older
crowd than younger. I thought i'dhave a lot of young guys come in.
They're interested in the Steel program.I do a lot of skill mentorship
still Biden said that stuff, butreally it's finding purpose and most importantly is

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guys my age forty three of alittle younger. We a lot of times
we lose that fire, we losethat fire of purpose in our life.
We need that, we need toreignite that fire. And the entire reason
is is for you to have yourtorch lit and then leave this group whenever

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you choose to and like the torchesin your family, like the torches in
your community, and that likes torchesin the nature. This is not far
fetched. This is exactly what's happeningfor my warrior tribe. And guys who
are getting in shape, they're they'rebeing held accountable with my fraugmen with your
workouts. They're they're getting they're gettingtight on their diets. They're just they're
they're shedding the fact in access totheir life and in prioritizing in sacking up

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wins. Uh And if the clockstarts over every single day with me,
with you, with everybody right,so it's stacking up those wins for that
day. One of the biggest aspectsof this UH in which I consider a
top figure recipe here for success thatI do every day is I sit down
first thing in the morning. Sunstoo are awards said ere the battle is

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won in the general's temple, meaningyou've ben us since you're ass down every
single morning in that quiet time,that quiet space, because men, when
is win else are we going tobe able to hear the strategy and battle
plan for the day. You knowyou win the battle. Before you go
out the door. You understand exactlywhat you're gonna do in the gym,

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the little things, what you're gonnaeat that day, before you go indeat,
before you encounter certain temptations. BeforeI step in the elevator, if
there's a girl with big breasts andshe says something to me, I automatically
control my demeanor, my eyes.I walk with the spirit of excellence.
You know, I shut it down. I'm professional, and I move on

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because I'm already I've already strategized inmy day. I've already purposed my life
to conquer that day, no matterwhat, and to encounter all kinds of
different problematic situations. Where before anold buddy from my past calls me up,
yo, bro, let's go tothe strip club, and automatically,
my distracted little dog brain goes,yo, bro, let meet you there.

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Man, let's go. And thenfour am in the morning, you're
doing insane, ludicrous stuff and nowyou're flying to Vegas with the mohawk tattoos
on your face. You know whatI'm saying. So you're just you gotta
like a guy like me has to, has to, must have that morning
meditation and strategy and quiet time withGod with yahweh. He wants to speak

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to you. He wants to talkto you, and guys will getting a
lot of breakthrough from that too.So I really preach heavily on that.
Let me ask you, did youfind Christ before the seals or after the
seals or during the seals? Inever found Jesus. He literally found me.
I'm telling you, You've never seena guy run away from God like

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I have. Like my parents talkedabout him. I knew he was there,
and I ran, I ran,I ran, and I went to
Columbia mediine. I went to NickGaraguas and Thaladore went on stabbaticals, made
millions of dollars for CEO of JohnMacnick's company. Did co you know three
four or five day coke coke binges? Baptized myself on a hot tub after

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a three day coke bingch at Columbia, Like I was that crazy man.
I was hanging out with the AhaHill's agents, I was doing crazy,
crazy stuff. And so to answeryour question, along this journey, this
sabbatical, running from the law,all running from myself, and before my
major arrest and then my criminal chartswere dismissed and stuff. But before all

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that, man I was wild.But I, like I always tell people,
you know, you can run fromGod. But he's in every dark
corner. He's in every single darkcorner. And Jesus literally met me.
He ran me down, and hemet me in the darkest place of my
life. And ever since that day, sure, I've had some trials and

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tribulations, but man I was I'vebeen flying higher than an eagle above the
Grand Canyon. I was set free. I dropped off two seabags full of
bricks man that I've been carrying aroundfor years. And that's my biggest plight,
brother, is getting guys over tothe tribe, getting guys over to
at least the social media to seemy videos, and the drop off the

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back in bags of rocks. They'vebeen carried around for so many years we
don't even know because we're so usedto it as men. Yeah, that's
another one too. A lot ofguys will try to suppress those emotions or
try to suppress those memories. Bythe way, folks, again talking to
Jimmy Watson over at Instagram. Youcan find um at Mighty Warrior twenty twenty
three, or you can go overto Jimmy Watson dot co for the website

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retired Navy seal and speaker United StatesMarine as well. So, boy,
you have a lot in your life. You covered a lot of territory there
in about two minutes, so it'sa lot of challenges that's got to be
scary as well, going to thinkingabout going to jail or prison at the
time, all the things you werehanging and doing and hanging out with.

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This is an interesting question for you. I don't know how long you've been
a Christian, and it's up toyou want to answer this question. But
I know some other ones that I'veinterviewed, not soft operators necessarily, but
other individuals. I remember a formergang member. He committed a murder at
seventeen, was sentenced for twenty fiveyears. It was his He actually tried

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to kill somebody eleven thankfully didn't workout, but when he did, he
went to jail for twenty five gotout in ten for good behavior because he
found Christ or Christ found him howeveryou want to phrase that. And he
shares the stories and I remember talkingto him and the question I asked him
was, is it hard to forgiveyourself? Because for him, being a

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Christian is different. When you've hada past that's dark, sometimes you look
at it and you go, howwould you even take me in for the
things that I've done in my past? And I guess that's my question to
you. Do you feel did youfeel the same way before? I think
the biggest revelation that I've ever got, and I never got this out of

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church, you know, church services. I never got it from somebody telling
me. I never got it fromthe altar call as a kid. I
never got this from from a childstory, a Bible story. But man,
when Jesus came into my life,he literally met me. When he
came in, the love that Ifailed was so mind blowing, earth shattering

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for me because you have to considerwhat I had done in my past,
like stuff. If you knew me, probably you may not even speak to
me back in the day. You'dbe like, oh, leave me,
this guy's out of control. Likeif you knew my past, there was
no saving me. For all intentsand purposes. If there's a hell,

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I was going to hell, brother, I was going to Hell in a
handbasket. I was going straight thereon the crazy train. I didn't care
about nothing. At one point,I hung myself, you know, fractured
my neck. I was right ina mental hospital, man, and it
was bad. It was the darkestplace for my life, like Russia,
Roulette kind of stuff with a gun. I didn't care about nothing. I

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was wrangled in by the FBI househaretus for a year and a half,
facing fifteen years in prison. WhenJesus met me and released me from that,
I realized that and God that rescuedme was not the God that we
hear about on other churches and stuff. And maybe the same god. But

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I'm telling you the God I metwas so merciful, so forgiving, so
loving. Doesn't mean we can goon and continue our dark road. Remember
what saved us in one time ofour life kills us to the next,
you know. And I'm convinced ifI went back to my old ways,
that would burn in so quick andsaw even funny. But Jesus rescued me

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for two reasons and two reasons.Only one because of his unbelievable supernatural love,
all right, and number two inmercy. And number two is I
think he just knew. He knewthat. Man if I saved Jimmy after
the piece of shit that he's been, crap that he's been, I know

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that this guy will tell the others. This guy will run with the torch
in light to others and tell themthe good news that he's here to rescue,
he's here to say. And that'swhat happened to me. It's a
crazy story like Apostle Paul's, whichreminding me of right now. And that's

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a great point, is when youwere talking, I was thinking about Paul.
You know, he murdered Christians,he put Christians in prison. You
talk about a thorn in a side, that heavy, heavyweight he had to
deal with. And there are timeswhere I look back in my past and
I just shake and shudder and cringe. And there's been times where I woke

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up in the middle of the night, just like in a nightmare, just
from the dark stuff in deeds ofmy life. But I'm always taking back
whom the sun sets free is freeindeed, and God's word is final.
When he sets you free. You'refree and free. Indeed, you may
still have the dark thoughts and theregret in the past. That doesn't necessarily
go away. But like Joseph inthe Bible, after spending thirteen years in

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the dudgeon and then being second incharge in all the land of Egypt,
he named the kid manasta in Ephrium. Ephrium means God has made me to
forget. Not that I forget myimprisonment, my dungeon, my proverbial dungeon,
whatever that is. But God hashas redeemed my life from the grave,

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like last year, to the pointthat the past doesn't matter anymore,
the past, that I could livefreely. That's correat. I know.
We got about five or six minutesleft. Great stuff. Second to last
question. You mentioned something before theshow about people put on masks, and
I know in my world of psychology, we have a term. We call

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it the persona. Everybody's got apersona. Who you are in front of
your parents is going to be differentthan who you are in front of me,
in front of friends, whatever itis. We all have our masks
that we wear. But you saidyou didn't want to be behind the mask
or something like that in regards tothe Navy seal identity, because transitioning out
is difficult. I've seen that overand over again with a lot of soft

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operators. They have to take offthat mask eventually, or sometimes it's too
hard to take it off, andit doesn't work necessarily in the civilian world
as easily for them. I guessthere's not really a question, but just
kind of elaborate. What do youtalk about when you talk about that mask
that individuals have trouble with the bestway I can describe it is remove it.
Remember the movie Gladiator. Everyone's seeingGladiator, Well, when Russell Crowe

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is beating all these guys, buthe's wearing a mask. He's wearing that
gladiatorial mask, and the Emperor youknow, Nero or whoever it was,
is like, how dare you turnyour back on me? Reveal yourself Gladiator?
And he finally turns around. Theorchestrated music comes on and he turns
and he and he takes this maskoff, and he goes to this big,

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big phrase like who he is?You know? And he you know,
da da da da da da da, And he tells the emperor to
his face. Either in this lifetimeor the next I will have my revenge.
And that is what you're telling theenemy when you take off your mask.
Finally, you may not be theWest Watson. You may not be
this guy over here, or thisguy on social media or this movie star.

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You're You're you. You're you,and that's the real you has to
come out there and until and untilyou reveal who you really are. Take
that steal mask off, take thatmarine mask off, Take all these titles
and throw them in the in thefreaking garbage. Take all that off,
Strip yourself of all that bs,and reveal yourself to the world. This

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is me, be you, thisis me. Love it or leave it,
and I'll tell you what when youstart to live without that mask on.
Uh, Man, your your youreyes shine bright like fire. You
you understand life better, people understandyou. They go, man, you're
you. You're pretty cool. Well, it's because I'm not living behind the

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mask. Because as long as Ilive behind the mask, it lived behind
someone else's it take on as stimilatesomeone's persona. Man, we're just we're
living a fake rule. And I'velived that fake life many times over and
I don't want to live it.Anymore. It's a daily challenge for me
to take that mask off. Ican't agree more with you. And there's

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so many people out there, whetheryou're a special operator or not, that
do live with masks on, andthey're not being there, as we would
phrase it, their authentic self.They're not being who they really are.
They're being whatever they think they shouldbe, whatever society tells them they should
be. And that's very difficult becauseyou're not living, as you say,
authentically, and you're always living inthis kind of a lie. In a

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weird way, isn't it. You'reliving a lie. It's like you're living
a necessary lie because without that mask, a lot of times we can't survive.
So it's like it takes you yearsto build this beautiful golden mask.
I say, you can hide behindit, you know when you walk around
and get respect and this is this, but you know deep inside who you

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really are. And so man,what a what an incredibly free thing to
do is to take off that goldencrown or that mask and throw it at
God's feet and say, do whateveryou want with me. I'm tired,
I'll start over. I don't careanymore. I don't care about the money,
the fame. I don't care anymore. I just want to live out

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the purpose that you have for me, because I know if I'm living God's
purpose, man, then it isthe best possible situation in outcome for my
personal life. Well you well said, And folks, don't get me wrong.
Everybody has to deal with their ownmasks and their own challenges in life.
But trying to find authenticity isn't theeasiest thing in the world to do.

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So Mighty Warrior Tribe could be theanswer for you. Again. You
can go to Mighty Warrior twenty twentythree over on Instagram. You can also
check out Jimmy Watson dot Co fromMoor. You never know where the answers
may lie. Sometimes they're in groups. You just never really know. Jimmy,
We're almost right around at a time. I guess My last question is
do you have a well, actually, let me, I'm gonna change it.

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Usually I asked my favorite movies,but I'm gonna switch it. Do
you have a favorite character in theBible? How about that? I think
my favorite character of the Bible isKing David. You know, I mean,
if you think about King David,he was cut after he was a
man after God's heart. But whenyou see God's cause of himself, he

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is a man after God's heart.But when you see David's mess up if
if problems, I mean, hecommits adultry. He kills the man that
the real warrior Uriah Uh, thewoman he commits adultery with, he kills
her husband in battle because he's soashamed of getting her pregnant, you know,

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and then he loses his child becauseof it. It's a major drama
show for David. And he killsthe Goliath and then he hides. He
has to hide in the cave.He gathers his mighty being in his cave,
you know. And I love hisstory because no matter how many times
David falls, it fails. Okay, sometimes it's his own doing, sometimes

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it's not. It's not at all, and he just gets sides why by
this life and you go, man, I didn't even do anything wrong that
time, right, Well, Godis the redeemer once again, and we
know the ending of King David's story. It was good, you know,
it was good. And God hasa great life for us. Kind of
funny because I know a lot ofsoft operators will always gravitate towards Neo Molti

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Musashi. He's a famous one ofcourse on Zoo. But I look at
the Bible and I'm thinking of this. There's quite a couple of few incredible
warriors, and the Bible King Davidbeing one of them. Saul, who,
as we talked about earlier, turnsinto Paul, was another one.
Man. There's several others that arein there that can't, I guess,
connect with the soft community, right, oh man, you know, there's

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there's there's there's so many. There'sthere's Jay who you know, you want
to talk about a warrior, Jaywho is just a normal guy in the
military and he gets basically anointed andhe just goes in Rex's habit and I
mean his his fell in battle andand how he carries it out the cunning
and deceptive, you know, artof war. War is deception, All

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wars deceptions. The deception he usesin his And this is the Bible talking
about this. I wish people wouldread it more. And then you have
Jefna, the warrior, Jeffna who'sbeen kicked out of his kingdom by his
old people, by his old people, but they go and get the warriors
when bad things happen. They goback to him. He's hanging out with
a bunch of thugs in a barpropertly, and he goes, well,

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I'll come back and I'll fight foryou, but you gotta make me king.
They make him king. Of course, he kicks a lot of ass.
I like a lot of the Ilove these stories. I think there
is hardcore as it gets. It'sreally interesting because I never thought about it
this way before. But to interpretthe Bible through the lens of a sophomo

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warrior or through a Navy seal hasgot to be so unique because you're gonna
look at it so differently. Evenyour father, as educated he is,
you still have a perspective of warthat would be really different. Very fascinating
stuff. Jimmy Watson folks again MightyWarrior twenty twenty three over on Instagram.
Go check out Jimmy Watson dot Co. Jimmy, thank you so much for

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being here. Man, it's ahuge honor to be on your show.
I really appreciate your audience for puttingup with me here and watching it,
and I really appreciate you talking aboutmy moighty weird tribe and man, thank
you so much brother for having meon them. Thank you for being here,
and maybe we'll have to bring itback to continue the conversation. I
think it'd be a lot of funto delve into the Bible as a Navy

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seal. Would be kind of interestingto do. I love telling stories about
the Bible. Man, there's somuch real stuff in there, you know.
Absolutely, thank you everybody for listening. You know what to do,
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