Contact with ETs | Interview with Stan Gordon | Podcast - Stories of the Supernatural

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:33):
How's everybody doing good? Everything is good over here, like always,
and I'm like this again, it's uneventful. Uneventful, you know.
And during the heat and the humidity, and here in Florida,
we even in northern Florida, we have what they call
those afternoons under storms. And I have to laugh because

(01:56):
once upon a time I grew up in Florida and
afternoons summer you knew that you were going to get
some type of thunderstorm, you know, rain something. But you know, now,
of course with the phone and everything, you know, you
get these alerts warning or what is it an alert?
What is it? You know, I'm thinking, what is it?
It's a thunderstorm warning. It's like, okay, stop it because

(02:16):
everything becomes like an emergency, you know. When I look
at that, to me, it's, you know, having grown up
in a state where here the emergencies always are related
to hurricanes something like that, you know, rain grew up
it was like, yeah, you knew that in the afternoons
there usually was thunderstorms, you know, lightning. Yeah, the wind

(02:38):
picked up. But now it's like, you know, I look,
we've noticed a thing of and it might be windy,
you know. Unfair paraphrasing. Of course, it's more in uh,
you know, gormental terms. But it's like, what is this?
Everything becomes so dramatic, all right, And then I'm thinking
this is almost feels And I'm sure people are familiar

(03:00):
with the series X you know, fill in the blank
for dummies. You know, it feels like life for dummies
is like, of course, if you've lived in a place
and of course you know your rainfall, lightning, you might
have picked up you know, you know, maybe Gus, it's like, okay,
everything is becoming like watch out. I'm telling you. I

(03:21):
guess you only realizes when you're a little bit older
and you've been around and that this wasn't the norm
where everything becomes. And the point I'm trying to make
is I think sometimes we become so saturated with this
and we're gonna tie it's gonna believe it or not.
What I'm telling you right now is gonna tie into
our guests and what we're gonna talk about. That when
you hear the really important, imminent notice or news or

(03:45):
the warning. You're kind of like, okay, all right, yeah, sure, sure, okay,
the urgency is gone. The urgency is over. And because
you've heard it, you're like, you know, you become the
sense tied to the urgency because you're getting it all
the time. So and now you're going to see how

(04:08):
it's going to tie in. Because I want to tell
you who our guest is today. He's been here before.
His name is Stan Gordon. He's very well known in
the UFO cryptid field. I'm sure a lot of you
are ware of who he is, but let me give
you a background anyway on him. He was trained as
an electronics technician specialized in radio communications. He worked in

(04:30):
the advanced consumer electronics sales field for over forty years.
He's been researching UFO sidings, big Foot encounters, and other
mysterious events in Pennsylvania since nineteen fifty nine. Since then,
he's been involved the investigation of thousands of unusual incidents.
For many years, Stan led teams of scientists, engineers, and

(04:51):
research specialists to investigate mysterious occurrences across Pennsylvania. He's a
primary investigator of the nineteen sixty five UFO crash incident
that occurred near Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. Stan has been taking calls
on UFO's sightings and other strange reports from the public
since nineteen sixty nine, and he continues to receive unusual

(05:11):
reports on a regular basis. He has given illustrated lectures
both locally and nationally on the tops of UFOs, Bigfoot, cryptids,
and strange encounters since the late nineteen sixties. He is
a former Pennsylvania State director for the Mutual UFO Network
More Moufon and was its first recipient in nineteen eighty
set of the Moufon Meritorious Achievement in a UFO Investigation Award.

(05:34):
He was listed in the two thousand and five Fate
magazine special The one hundred Most Influential People in Ufology Today.
He's a producer of the award winning UFO video documentary
Kecksburg The Untold Story. Stan is the author of four books,
Solid Invasion, the Pennsylvania UFO Bigfoot Casebook, Really Mysterious Pennsylvania
and Astonishing Encounters, and Pennsylvania's Own So wait a minute,

(05:58):
I'm sorry, let me Astonishing and Counters, Pennsylvania's Unknown Creatures
and his latest book, Creepy Cryptids and Strange Uphone Encounters
of Pennsylvania. Help me welcome him. How are you doing
today's Stan.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
We're doing good. Thanks for having me back on the
program again.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
No, on the contrary, let me tell you. And the
reason why I mentioned that thing that sometimes it's over
the top is that I don't know. We were just
a minute before we started to record, you had telling
me that things were ramping up. And then I'm seeing
articles where they're saying, hey, all these incidents of UFOs

(06:38):
and crashes, this was all the government covering up for,
you know, development of you know, in other words, the
UAPs are not etceterrestrial, And I'm like, really, but tell
me what's been going on in your neck of the woods. Stand.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, it's been very active action the last several years. Again,
since I started my hot back in nineteen sixty nine,
I would generally receive UFO reports and other nominally reports
around the state all year round, but generally in the
fall and winter of each year, when the weather would
turn colder you would have snow that reports would normally decrease.

(07:16):
But in the fall of twenty twenty one, we suddenly
had an increase in low level UFO incidents and then
bigfoot cryptid incidents, and it's never stopped. It's going on
through twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, and right through
all this year it has been NonStop UFO sightings, Bigfoot reports, orbs,

(07:36):
balls of light below the ground, all kinds of cryptid reports.
It has just been amazing right through the last week.
And it's not just one area. It's coming from many
other parts to state. Even though it's more active here
in southwest Pennsylvania, but I do get reports from other
parts of the state as well. But what's really intriguing
is in the last I say last two three years now,
we're getting more and more low level daylight off observations

(08:00):
of objects in the sky. We're getting some pretty good
pictures in We're getting more and more big Foot sightings
in daylight where people were fifty sixty feet away from
these things, were getting deep up reports and these orbs,
these small spheres of light cases have been increasing more
and more in recent years. And I'm telling you it's
probably one of the most interesting part of the UFO
UAP mystery that people are beginning to talk more about.

(08:23):
But a lot of people are not even know where
it was happening, and it's something that really be looked.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Into, right, And I remember you were one of the
first ones that told me, since you had been basically
tracking that, you were the one that was telling me.
I remember you when you told me, we've I've noticed,
you know, an increase in UFO sightings coincides with an
increase encrypted or bigfoot sightings. And I was like, wow, okay,
because before these were two different things. You know, your

(08:49):
bigfoot was over here and u full sightings were over here.
And the question is like, how is that coincidental or
what do you think, stan would do you think could
be driving that? Is it that people are being more observant.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's so complex, to be honest with you, Well, there's
some patterns I've been finding over the years. There's just
a lot of it. It's very detailed. It's coming from
so many different locations, miles and miles apart from people.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Who have no way.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I've known about the other reports coming in, but we
had to go back in history a little bit, you know,
back in nineteen seventy I's that of our first research group,
and that's a part of the story. One of three
that for many years would investigate across Pennsylvania. And in
my volunteer teams, I had scientists, engineers, technicians, police officers,

(09:39):
former military specialists. We all did this voluntarily at our
own time in pockets out of our all having full
time jobs. And by nineteen seventy three I'd extended to
cover the whole state of Pennsylvania. And we are so
lucky that we were already set up because we had
the biggest UFO and bigfoot oll break in history here
in Pennsylvania, which you've got I remember now, I was

(10:00):
nineteen seventy three. There's no internet, there's no cell phone,
so the public had no way of knowing what was
going on. But a lot of the local area newspapers,
the state wide papers, and national news were taking up
localized reports that they were receiving. There are some of
our investigations they were covering. And first we had the
biggest UFO outbreak, literally hundreds and hundreds of the UFO

(10:21):
sighting and let me tell you them ran right from
the beginning from the time I've been out in the
field since sixty five. After the Expert case, a lot
of the sightings we investigated I found from the beginning.
While a lot of reports initially sounded strange and unusual,
in some cases when took the time to properly investigate them,
many were determined to be misidentification national a manmade objects,

(10:44):
and that still occurs. So we got a lot of
startling satellite reports in the last few years. We get
on occasion projects related to a space program, a space launch.
We have fireball media.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
As what they call bow lights come across on.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Occasion, we get drone reports. Says a lot of things
we can explain. Even with bigfoot sightings, for example, some
turn out to be large shaggy dogs.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
We have a lot of bear in the area.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
We have had hundreds of camera flass suits. There are
things you can explain away. So what we're going to
talk about tonight are not the things we're gonna talk about.
Things you cannot easily explain away. And I've dealt with
hundreds and hundreds of cases that I'm telling you they're
not easily explained away. I'd be the first one to
find an explanation for them. And I've said years and

(11:29):
years ago there's more than one origin to the unknown
category of the UFO or as with the government now
calls a UAP mystery. I think a small percentage of
these reports could be extraterrestrial. And do I believe the
government has recovered craft or not man made?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's one story. But I'm telling you we're dealing with
something much stranger. This is what I found in seventy
three with the UFO and the big Foot cases, that
we're dealing with something that has a physical and a
non physical component to it. Even the objects, I mean,
even with the government talks about with the tic TACs
of some of these other objects that I've been investigating
Pennsylvania for years and years, going back to at least

(12:07):
in nineteen seventies, of these large metallic wingless objects hovering
over areas and more recent years now in daylight, low
level over more populated areas, especially here in southwest Pennsylvania.
To get on my website, there's some photographs on them
taken by different people. They have these big black triangle
objects that are seeing even in recent weeks in this

(12:27):
area in daylight, hovering, not light, solid objects.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
And then you got.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
These small words of light load of the ground. But anyhow,
going back to nineteen seventy three, we had hundreds of
UFO sightings, many large structured objects low the ground, hovering
over highways, over vehicles. There were landing reports, just amazing incidents,
some of the electromagnetic effects being involved. So we had

(12:54):
all these UFO cases. We're out there just trying to
keep up with all these UFO sightings, and then in
the summer of seventy three, we had the biggest outbreak
of Bigfoot sightings ever documented anywhere. That went on to
nineteen seventy four, and every year, including this year, we've
had bigfood side support every year in Pennsylvania since then.
But what we came up in seventy three was something

(13:17):
myself or any of my team members were looking for.
We're expecting, you know, when I was out.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
For the field investigating Bigfoot in.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Pennsylvania nineteen sixties, I was fully consienced that Dickwood was
an unknown primate, sometimes unknown creature that science had never
confirmed existing. So nineteen seventy three comes around and a
lot of weird things begin to come to our attention.
So you've got to remember, now reports are coming in
all year run, including the winter when we have snow.
So my teams get onto some of these scenes within

(13:44):
minus of hours after they occurred. And surprisingly during that
time period, we're getting referrals from across the state now
from the news media, from the state police and other agencies.
So we're out there day and night trying to catch
up in all these sighting beforres. And for example, we
get to some of these locations in the snow and
he had these large, unusual footprints with big strides between them.

(14:06):
They go for a disc and have been suddenly to stop,
abruptly stop when there should have been more tracks, And
there was no way that could be fabricated, right, And
you heard that a.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Lot about that the prince, just like like if something
was pulled up off the ground.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, exactly. And that's being me poured all over the
country now too.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
By the way, now let me ask you, and now
that you said the thing about the nineteen seventies, the
other day, I was reading about the cattle mutilations. They continued,
but they said that the time where they had the
most reported was in the nineteen seventies as far as
all these unexplained cattle mutilations, and they had I think
also other animals livestock, like you know, when they were

(14:47):
out there, and it makes you wonder, like, what what
was the nexus of this uptick all of a sudden, Because,
believe me, especially something even now when you said I'm
gonna seguey real quick now, when you said, you know,
maybe back in this, like you said, when this first
came out, you're thinking, is this some you know, unknown primate?

(15:11):
Could it be? But let's fast forward now, everybody knows
what a bigfoot looks like as far as to mistake
a bear for it. It's like, nah, you know, everybody
else familiar with what a bigfoot looks like. So I'm
thinking current reports, I'm pretty sure that this is either
what they're actually saying or what they think they're seeing.
But that thing where people were mistaking it for other

(15:34):
you know, I'm about thinking, okay, well, the biggest a bear,
you would say, maybe standing on its hind legs. Maybe,
But I think people are too familiar now with what
a bigfoot is supposed to look like that when they
say this is what they saw, this is what they saw.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, Well the whole thing is you know, I love
these some of the TV shows to pick people seeing
something in the dark, you know, quite a distance away.
We're not talking about those reports. We're talking about cases
here in pennsyl where people who've been extremely close to them,
even in daylight, amazing cases from the seventies up the
recent weeks and months, and they're seeing I mean, we

(16:10):
have the incidents, believe me, and I can go into
great detail where people were as close as about five
feet away to about twenty feet away from these things
under different circumstances, like for example, one case that happened
us a few years ago from Fayette County along the
Chestnut Ridge, which is probably one of the most active
areas in the country from mysterious anomalies here in Pennsylvania.

(16:30):
It's very active year after year, especially certain locations along
the Ridge. But during that time period, one of my
research that says is Jim Brown investigator, he's a real
high tech investigator. And it was a rainy night and
two men are riding down this back rural road would
have been sightings for years. Neither one had a phone
with them, unfortunately, and from the left side of the road,

(16:52):
here's a seven foot tall haircover of bigfoot steps out
about twenty feet in front of their car and just
stands there right in front of them. This goes on
for several minutes. They see this thing from head to
toe down to the fingernails of a glowing red eyes,
staring at these guys. It moves up a little, it
moves back. Finally, the driver of the car slowly moves
his car forward. He has the bumper off his car

(17:14):
against the knee of the creature. It turns and has
his hands on the hood of the car, then turns
around starts walking down the road. So yeah, and then
here's the interesting thing too. So within a couple of
days you begin to have some some experienced bigfoot researchers
up and looking for evidence, looking for bigfoot. They didn't
see bigfoot, but guess what they saw these small orbs

(17:36):
of light coming out of the trees in that area
close to them, right.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And this is what I find so interesting, because you know,
I think, you know, some people say, like, let's say,
like you said, is there a whether you want to
call it a portal, a rip, a tear, or just
a thinning out of between dimensions? Which is maybe all

(18:00):
these UFOs are coming through, and is the Bigfoot being
allowed or they're just slipping through, you know, in or
out through And this is why you see these numbers
increase at the same level for both types of sightings.

(18:20):
You know. In other words, and you know you, I'm
sure you've heard of people saying, no, that, how's this
The Bigfoot belonged to the extraterrestrials. What I mean is
that they're being guided or manipulated by extraterrestrials. And there's
others that it's like, no, maybe for some reason the
Bigfoot have figured out, Hey, i can go back and

(18:40):
forth through this rip. I'm using a rip just as
a you know, somehow they figured it out. What do
you think, Stan, Do you think that they're just strictly
an animal, that they're totally physical and nothing there that's it,
or there's more to it than that.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
There is much more to it than that. That's what
I found the seventy three in the seventy four, and
I can tell you in great detail where I'll make
it smaller detail because we could spend a long time
in east case. But there's at least two significant cases
that convince me in seventy three and seventy four. So
what we're dealing with has a physical and a non
physical component to it. For a lack of a better term,

(19:18):
we called interdimensional because some of these First of all,
one even some of the objects seen in the sky,
where we have large objects seen in a low level,
they suddenly appear out of nowhere. They suddenly just vanished
and they're gone. They can change sta physical form. There's
electromagnetic and effects involved in some cases. Okay, but you've

(19:38):
got similar things with the Bigfoot reports. So let me
give you a couple examples. It'll take a few minutes.
Go ahead, I think you'll find it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
So all this activity is going on in nineteen seventy three,
and first of all, let me stress this, most UFO
sightings have no direct connection with Bigfoot and vice versa.
But there's growing reports all around the country and other
parts of the world where you have in these different
anomalies being seen together. Okay, more and more activity. So
going back in seventy three, all these incidents are going on,

(20:10):
and we're starting to see a pattern as months go
by of a UFO siding in a certain area. Within
minus hours and days later we have a big foot
sighting or vice versa. Then October twenty fifth, nineteen seventy three,
I remember that night very well, I'm getting numerous reports
of UFO sidings across the state on my hotline. About
ten thirty at night, I get a call from a
state trooper from the Uniontown State Police Sparricks in Fayette County.

(20:34):
He just came back from investigating this incident and he said,
I think there's something stop on the farm. Can get
a team up here as soon as you can. Well,
it's nineteen seventy three, it's seen thirtieth night at the
a pretty good distance away, and there's no GPS.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
But we did.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I call it in some of my helpers. We got
our radiation equipment, we got our other equipment. Of founder
our way up to Fayette County. I know we spent
the whole night up there.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Anyhow. The story is about nine.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Pm that night yet fifteen fifteen witnesses who observed this huge,
born sized red ball in the sky about one hundred
feet off the ground, hovering and slow. You making this
way downward, and the focus of the stroll will be
on the sun of the people that owned the farm.
He was coming down the roads of visitors family owned
the farm, and he sees this thing in the sky

(21:19):
and other people watching it. He decided to go to
a neighbor's house to get a better view, and it
looks like this thing is going to land on his
dad's farm. There were two young boys in that household,
and the three of them decided they want to go
up in the field to see where.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
This thing is.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
So before heading up here, they go over his dad's farm.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
The dog.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
He grabs a thirty got six, which is a pretty
high powered weapon, and a handful of ammunition. And he
didn't realize that later that in that handful of ami,
we had two tracer bullets. So when you fire those,
you just get that luminous trail. So again I'm giving
you the short part of the story. They're making their
way up towards the at the area up on the farm,

(21:57):
and anyhow, as a get closer, the dogs are going crazy.
They're this high pitched whining noises, baby crying sounds. And
they make their way up to the pasture and there
they're standing there in about two hundred and fifty feet away.
They couldn't believe what they're seeing. Here's this huge object
on the ground right above it now, but now it's
like a half the sphere, like a big white dome

(22:18):
about one hundred feet in diameter, making this loud, whining
noise and illuminating the whole area. So they're standing there
they're trying to figure out what this thing is. But
a short time later their tensions drawn to this barboar
fence about seventy five feet away, and along that barboar
fence are these two huge, air covered, big foot like

(22:38):
creatures walking slowly in their direction. The one in front
about eight feet tall, the one behind about seven feet tall.
They're slowly moving, moving one by one to the next post,
heading towards the direction of the three witnesses, and they're
covered with long, dark matted hair hanging off the body.
They have no neck. The arms are so long to

(22:59):
hang below the these almost to the ground that kind
of stooped over. They are large, large luminous green eyes.
And the one young boy so frightened he runs out
of the field, and the other young fellows yelling that
the adults shoot him, shoot him, said. The stellar fires
his first shot over their head, turns out to be
one of those tracer bullets. Then he fires his second shot,

(23:21):
and here's where it gets really interesting. He fires that
second shot, which was the second tracer, and when he does,
the largest of the two creature reaches out as to
grab that tracer bullet and makes a loud, whining, crying noise,
and at that time, that huge glowing object on the
ground disappears. It doesn't take off, it just vanishes, and

(23:43):
the creatures turn around start walking back along the tree line.
At that point he's firing live themo from his thirty
six into the creatures with no effect on whatsoever. In fact,
until that fellaw passed away, he always told me, he said,
I'll never forget how that huge creature with those glowing
green eyes is staring at me as I'm fired live
into it with no response from all whatsoever. So they, too,

(24:04):
fellow as they ran back to the truck, went to
the farmhouse and got the family out of there. They
went to the neighbors and called the state police and
the trooper. ID. Forty five minutes later, and again short
part of the story, as a trooper and the witness
went up in the field to look for evidence. I
interviewed the trooper and he said when he got on
seen the area with the object had been on the
ground was self luminescent, glowing about one hundred feet or

(24:24):
more diameter. He said, if he had a newspaper, he
was certain he get a shot. Yeah, could have sat
down within the area and read the newspaper. From the glow,
he noticed the farm animals who would not go anywhere
near it, and they went back to the barracks. I
was told both the troopers and the witness were taking
the two separate rooms severally interviewed. Then they called me
a cent of my team, and during the night some

(24:49):
of the strangest things ever reported with the case like
this occurred. Again, I don't have time to get into it.
We could spend two hours talking. In this case, the
whole thing is in my Solid Invasion book. That is
one of the strangest cases they ever documented. So that
was this one case, and we began to realize, what
are we dealing with. There's something going on. These are
not bigfoot reports. They're not what we thought they were.

(25:11):
And again I want to suggest I am not suggesting
that these things are extraterrestrial, because the evidence is more
and more we're dealing with some of you has a
physical and physical component to it. They come and they go,
they're here and they're gone for a lack of a
better term, we'll called interdimensional, because I don't think anybody
understands it right now. But as the weeks went on,

(25:33):
more and more even stranger reports began to come in
for miles and miles around and then February sixth, nineteen
seventy four, happens way up in the mountains southwest Pennsylvania.
So here's this woman in a little cabin home deep
in the mountains. It's a normal evening, And I'll give
a little back on. Some of your listeners will probably

(25:54):
remember the time period there was a big national tructor
strike going on around the country, gas rationing. A lot
of people remember the gas ration.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
So I couldn't get gas in my hometown to get
up to the scenes early the next morning. So because
there was violence across the country in Pennsylvania, members of
the National Guard and the state Police patrolling together. Said
you had members of both units and responded this incident
and anyhow, said this lady nad evening, she's watching TV.
She has a little cabin home deep in the mountains.

(26:25):
She hears this little commotion on her front porch. She
had some empty soda cans popcns out there and someone
was knocking the popcns around. So a few weeks before
she had a pack of while dogs coming through and
she thought, I bet the dogs are back. So she thought,
I'll grab my sixteen gaged double barreled shotgun. I'll load
one chamber, I'll shoot over the head and lets gather
those dogs away. So she proceeds to do that. She

(26:47):
loads her shotgun. She walked up towards the front. She
turns on the switch for the outside porch light. She
approaches the door, she steps out, but there's no dogs.
Six seat in front of her is a seven foot tall,
gray haired bigfoot, but his arms straight up over its
head when she turned on the light, and what does
she do? She pulls the sugar and fires right into it.

(27:10):
My god, she said. She said. There's this bright flash
of light like the flash on a camera, and that
solid looking creature disappears right in front of her. Now,
her in laws lived one hundred feet away. They heard
the gunshot. They called after what she's shooting at? Her
son in law reportedly start walking down that road with
a side arm and was supposedly encountered four or five

(27:31):
hairy people with eyes like coals. The fire started shooting
at randomly, and at the same time there was a
large luminous object covering over the trees at the same time.
That's when they called the state police for help. And
I talked to her primary investigator, and he said by
the time they found the place way up in the mouths,
everything was over. But he said, something really weird happened

(27:51):
up there. He said one the witnesses were very credible.
They were visibly very shaken, but they had great detail
of what happened. But he said what convinced him were
the animal reactions. Now, I'm not sure if I mentioned
this to you, Wily. In all the years I've been
doing this now, I have never personally seen a.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Bigfoot or UFO myself.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
I've interviewed multitudes of witnesses. I've seen a lot of
evidence out in the scene. I've never seen one personally,
But I have seen the animal reactions and commonly over
the years, especially with dogs, even the most vicious large dogs,
when they're close to these creatures, they're to the like airwise,
they don't bark, they shake, they hear that, yeah, that's

(28:31):
very calm. And other animals respond as well, but it's
very apparent in the dogs. Even in recent months, we're
hearing reports like this, So anyhow, that was the case
among others and indicated, and we're dealing with something that
appears and disappears. It's physically here and it's gone. I've
interviewed many people now who have told me, for example,
that they're riding down the road, even during daylight, and

(28:53):
this huge, hairy bigfoot creature suddenly appears in the middle
of the road, so it doesn't come from the side
of the road onto it's something just appears in front
of them. They see it moving and then it's gone,
they said. One person's that start watching a predator movie.
I've had other people seeing these things a close range,
where some of the body is physically solid, some of

(29:14):
the body is more transparent or out of focus. I've
had reports of these things actually gliding or floating very
fast above the ground, and in many cases, of course,
these things with huge strides running very very fast. There
are so many aspects of bigfoot that people don't know about,
which suggests that these things are not normal flesh and
blood animals. I have a whole lecture I do on this,

(29:35):
and it is amazing. Even the electromagnetic effects being reported
with Bigfoot cases, A lot of people don't even know about.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, and it makes you think exactly what you mentioned
that thing about predator? Is it are they there all
along and maybe they have some type of cloaking device
that you can't see them and every once in a
while something shifts and you're able to see them. Or
is it that they're coming in and out of the dimension.
Is maybe they're all a lot and they have something
that we just can't see them.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Well, all is there's a lot we just don't understand.
The pattern I found years and years ago, which is
continuing to be reported, is that many close range, low
level UFO sightings and many counters with Bigfoot and other
cryptids often occur in the vicinity of energy sources. So
you have many incidents around gas wells, gas lines, high

(30:26):
tension power lines, power plants, bodies of water, railroad tracks,
all kinds of radio towers. There's definitely that type of
energy connection showing up with many cases. And I can
tell you, and you asked me earlier about these patterns, Well, again,
you can have a UFO sightings all year round. You
can have some occasionally bigfoot or thunderbird sightings, these huge

(30:48):
flying creature reports, out of place, black panther sidings, all
kind of other weird creature reports will get in. But
then over the years, in the last few years, we
would have different outbreaks at different times. Interestingly, you know,
you begin to see these things people don't know about it.
Like last year we had an increase in thunderbird siting.
These huge, huge, wide wingspan creatures are being seen from

(31:12):
many areas, and there's no way these people even knew
I was getting these reports. Guy didn't publish them at
that time.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Somebody heard or influenced or yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
And then in very recent weeks, okay, we've had some
very interesting low level UFO incident. I talked to a fella,
the interviewed him for two hours about two weeks ago,
who said he's been hunting for forty years, and he
said what he saw and encountered just about two and
a half weeks ago, I think was now. He said
his hair and.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
His whole body just stood up.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
He said, I know what I saw, and he said
it was a pterodactyl. He said it was very low.
We had a monstrous wingspan. It was all leathery skinned.
He you can see the crest in the head and
the long tail with this unusual appendage at the fact
that other people told me they've seen, which is kind
with some of the flying prehistoric creatures we know about.

(32:04):
We've had a black panther incidence, and I'm finding more
and more indication that a lot of these other cryptids
it's the same thing. They appear, they're gone, they're here,
and they're gone. Yes, And that's why there's no bodies,
because these things are not here.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
And that's why there's so much skepticism, because if you
don't see it yourself, it's very hard for people to
believe that these things exist.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Sure, or to say, oh, it's a mistake and they
mistook it first. And like, you know, you hear some
of these some of these things, even the ets that
oh it was an owl, it was this was like,
come on, there's no way you're gonna mistake. I live
in a place where I've got big owls out here.
I believe me. I know it's an owl. I could
never think it's something else besides that. But you have
the well, all people are confused when they see that like, no, no,

(32:47):
I don't think so let me ask you do you
have when you have inclement weather out there, especially lightning storms,
does that affect the sightings or anything like that. Since
you said there was a connect into energy locations.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I can tell you even today, we have had a lot,
probably worse than what you were talking about earlier in
our program. We have had a lot of flash flooding
incidents in this area, in the Greater Pittsburgh area, a
lot of bad storms in the last several weeks, several
last several days, it was a very bad flooding again.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
But I'm still getting reports.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
And so I get reports in beautiful days. We've had
reports during snowstorms, thunderstorms, and no, these are not cases
of ball lightning.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
We check all that kind of that's very rare that.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
It's not that kind of thing is being reported, But
it doesn't matter. We get reports on odd type of
weather conditions, and I'll tell you something kind of interesting.
We like wing a lot of detail. I've heard from
two different landowners now over the last several weeks, and
there were two different incidents in different counties where apparently
there was some storm damage and you had crews from

(33:53):
two different utility sources came to these different properties, and
apparently while this was going wrong on there's different properties,
there was bigfoot activity or bigfoot sighting on that property
as the utility companies were causing some kind of commotion
and we're drawing the attention of the bigfoot in the property.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Wow. And you know what. And I understand because when
we've had hurricanes, especially you know, when we had Milton
and the other one, we had a bunch and I
know exactly what you mean. We had you know, they
brought electricians from other electric companies into the state, and
you know, because their trucks are different. So I know
what you mean that they bring in all these crews
from different areas that you know, these are these these

(34:34):
aren't colluding and seeing the same thing, you know, because
they're unknown to each other. They're totally unknown to each other.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well, let me tell you a couple of interesting things.
Especially we'll talk a little bit about the orbs, because
I think that's really important. But let me go back
to one another thing. So, for years and years, one
of the stranger reports of creatures is the out place
animal of black panthers in Pennsylvania. So we're not talking
about Mount Allons cougar. So we're talking about black life
birds or black jaguars, which are not calmness part of

(35:02):
the world. They've been seeing him for years and years.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Last year we had one.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Walk out twenty feet in front of a car. God
got a great view of it. I've had many sightings
in daylight, have interviewed hunters who have seen these things
at close range. But I told you about that case
where lady shot at the big foot and that disappeared.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Let me tell you another story.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
February nineteen eighty three, deep in the mouths of Pennsylvania,
the cold morning, as guy's coming in round one o'clock
in the morning. His car's overheating. He pulls into his driveway,
goes inside, gets the can of anti freeze, comes back.
He's playing anti freeze in the car. A few minutes later,
here's this loud ground. So he turns around. About twenty

(35:43):
feet away from him, there's this very large black cat
sitting there's growling at him. Grow up in the woods
where he lives. The cats all over the place. He
didn't think much of it, so he goes back. He's
putting more anti freeze in the car. A few minutes later,
he hears this louder growl, so he turns around and
looking said, I couldn't believe what I saw. That big
house cat has physically grown to twice its size. It

(36:06):
took the ANTIFRIESE can't throw it at that thing and
ran into the house as the animals walking outside growling
at him. He goes in the house to look for
his pistol. He came out a few minutes later, and
he said, I thought I'm losing my mind. He said,
that big cat now looks like the animal I saw
in the zoo. It was a great, big black panther
with a long black tail. We had glowing yellow eyes.

(36:28):
Was steering at him, growling at him from outside. He said,
I took a shot at him with my pistol. I
don't know if I hit it, but moments later it
disappeared right in front of me.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Let me tell you see, I've got a black cat.
I got to look at my black cat now like
we've about full eyes. That had never heard that before,
because over here in Florida we have panther. That black
panther sidings. You hear it a lot from people who
are out there hunting, like you know, the wild hogs
and stuff, where they've said same thing, they've seen it
cross the road, and we've had those sightings for years.

(36:58):
But that's I'd never heard of that, okay, because that
really puts a whole different spin on it.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, I will tell you a little bit of a story,
as I recall, without going a lot of detail, because
the person I talked to was retired former police officers
from Florida from years ago, and I'm not going to
go into the areas, and i couldnt tell anyhow and
how the report of what areas there was, but anyhow,
it was in so many areas where the skunkcake had

(37:25):
been reported for years, and apparently his departner had for
a long time had gotten reports from locals about seeing
this huge harry creatures and apparently on one incident, I
guess numerous years ago, they got a report when this
thing was in the area. Several officers went down and
they saw this thing and they called some other departments in.
They had this thing surrounded and as they approached the

(37:47):
area where it was surrounded, it was gone. The said
there was no positible way this thing could escape them
like it was there and it was gone and there
was no explanation for it right that, you know, there's
no way.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I mean, especially something of some size, it's like where's it?
First of all, you hear you know, brush breaking, you know,
you feel you hear it. If you don't see it,
you hear it. But especially where it is where it is,
it's like, okay, where's it going to go?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
You know?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, that's that's very interesting. As far as let me
ask you something, Stan when you say that people, is
it people having having these encounters lately? Is it when
they go out into the woods or are these creatures
coming to where they're at, either on a farmhouse or
maybe with they're camping.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
It's both.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
We've had a lot of settings up in the Chessman
Ridge and different mountainous areas around it, but we're also
getting more reports. Again I'm more populated areas where there's
not a lot of woods around, so it's been different
locations from different areas. Some of the reports again are
just amazing and as fascinating, and it sure makes you
wonder what the heck we're dealing with, because I don't
think anybody understands it sure. And again there's certain elements

(38:56):
of these things that are so bizarre people are not
aware of. Two of them. I'll give you example of things.
One elect electromagnetic effects. Back going back to probably nineteen
fifty sixties. Over the years, we've had reports of these objects,
even daylight, hovering near vehicles, hovering close by these large metallic,

(39:16):
solid objects, and sometimes the engines would get in the spider,
the car would get to lose power, headlights would begin
to dim, and when the creature took or when the
object took off, the headlights would begin to come back
on and get more powerful again. There have been similar
incens with bigfoot a lot of people don't know about,
not an in Pennsylvania, around the country, they're rare, but

(39:36):
sometimes when a bigfoot will walk near a vehicle, the
car would begin to lose power, and when the creature
would move off, the power would come back on.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
So that, yeah, exactly, almost like a power drain, right.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And then the other thing is that here's something you
rarely ever hear about. But anyhow, I've were these reports
around the country, Derek, I've interviewed hundreds of bigfoot witnesses
in Pennsylvania. Something it's rarely ever reported, but the few
people who have talked to me about it are very credible.

(40:12):
They had no reason to make up the story. They
were very lucky even to share with me. But in
one case, I was a witness to what happened. And
this is a case where people claim that Bigfoot at
times tries to mentally communicate with them. So back in
the mid back in the mid nineteen eighties, along the
Chestnut Ridge outside of Derry I, trop Pa I was

(40:33):
starting to get calls with some of the landowners. The
people said the huge, hairy creatures coming down from the
top of the ridge down the bottom towards the homes
and scaring the animals around the property. So my team
went out and there was a number of landowners there
to meet us, and they wanted to share their experiences
with us. And while we're there, one of the witnesses,
very reluckily said that he didn't understand why, but it

(40:55):
seems at times and one of these creatures was trying
to mentally communicate with her. So we're sitting here talking
and suddenly she says, this creature is now telling me
that tomorrow morning, about fifteen miles away over Homer City, Pennsylvania,
which in Indiana County, and we're in Sayet or West
Moore County that tomorrow morning there'll be a strange UFO

(41:17):
incident right over top of that community. And very early hours,
early the next morning, over that community, there are multiple
reports of this very strange, loud sound like some was
hovering right over the town. They couldn't see it. It
was so strange. They called the fire department out.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Wow, that's so interesting. I have heard of people saying
that they have had like telepathic communication with Bigfoot, and
sometimes I wonder, I'm like, okay, is that And there's
so many of you see you hear the report where
you know telepathic communication and ets are benign and you

(41:56):
know they've just misunderstood I guess. And then there's others
where it's like you gotta be careful because the feeling
you get is like, you know, you might get the
short end of the stick of this, you know, this
meeting somehow.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, well, once again, I'm not stressing what we're dealing with.
And again you got to keep an open mind because
nobody really knows the truth about what we're dealing with.
We're only theorizing what's going on, But data suggests more
and more than a lot of this may not be extraterrestrial,
but it might be pro lack of a better term, interdimensional.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well well, and maybe because we always think of extraterrestrials
as in coming from another planet like years away, and
what if their form of travel is interdimensional?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
And again it might be something both relay. We just
don't have.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
The answers right right, it's not like the way what
we think of it, you know, like travel like you know,
linear travel kind of thing. This is a way of
which could make it plausible. Maybe maybe these Bigfoot or cryptids,
because I know other cryptos out there, maybe they're they
where they originate from is not here, but from the

(43:04):
planet where these ets come from. Why not? I mean,
you know we can go down the rabbit hole on that,
and maybe this is why they make fouri's, you know.
At the same time that the that you see an
uptick in UFO slash ets. Let me ask you, have
you had reports of either Bigfoot or any other type

(43:26):
of cryptid along with an actual extraterrestrial not the UFO,
but an actual extraterrestrial with them.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I have, over many, many many years I've heard alled
stories and I've got some other research and other states
of people who claim, i think abductees that they allegedly
saw a Bigfoot type creature with some other type of
either smaller humanoids or something some like human like creatures

(43:54):
or not not humans as such. But I've heard those,
but they're very very rare. I have, however, had reports
of Bigfoot accompanying another cryptid together at the same time.
And again here's what's in back to black panther sidings.
You know, you can have sightings anywhere, and most people
know about Skinwalker Ranch. Well, the cases I was in

(44:16):
vestcat here in early seventies was skinwalker activity long before
we knew about Skinwalker Ranch. And now you have locations
all over the country where similar type of things are
going on. We have another area that's very very active
here in southwest BA up in Fayette County at the
Pennsylvania Bigfoot Decide. It calls the Area Acts of Pennsylvania,
and I've been up there and it's a very very

(44:38):
hard area to even get into. It's very very secluded,
it's very very weird. Of course phenomena nothing ever happens,
But I've interviewed many really re experienced researchers who've been
up there, and they've had everything a bigfoot activity around there,
to the orbs of light coming very close to these people,
cryptid stuff, ufo stuff, all kind of weird. Anomally is

(45:00):
it's very interesting. So I have this on different properties.
And for example, sometimes in certain areas such as a
major outbreaker went on for months and months on the
boarder of Armstrong and western Woren County back and starting
the summer seventy nine, and I think intensified eighty one
and eighty two when many many people were seeing bigfoot
UFOs and then black panthers at the same time, right,

(45:24):
And one.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Of the things that you mentioned the jaguars besse. People
don't realize that those that they call black panthers are
those black jaguars. It's just that, you know, they were
at one point, they did populate the southern end of
the United States. They were and then they just you know,
they got hunted out, and you know, those jaguars. People
don't realize. It's just that the rosettes, you know, they
they blend in. But but supposedly that the point being

(45:48):
that normally they've been gone supposedly for many, many years,
decades that the supposed black jaguar black panthers have not
been seen. And you know, you always hear these stories
of like, oh, you know, this one's you know circus,
you know this is this is of course, is when
circuses would travel around with you know, on a train
and stuff like that. But yep, no, some of these

(46:12):
sightings are really unusual, and like I said, especially in
an area where I'm gonna say, like even here in Florida, Yeah,
we do have the equivalent of pumas or cougars or
we want to, but the coloring islem is totally different.
And again I want to say that a lot of
these reports originate with hunters who are very familiar with

(46:33):
the wildlife in an area, so they know that when
they see something this is what I saw.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you a very interesting case. It
made actually a local news, major news. This was seal
my memory of Sites nineteen eighty three. This is in
the Bloomfield section of Pittsburgh, a very populated area. Okay,
it was early morning and there's a big fence that
separates this big wooded area from a popular airs where

(47:01):
it was a big auto dealership. This huge black panther
dies over this fence, lands near a car where a
mechanic is putting a headlight on a car. This huge
black panther with a dead animal in its mouth, lands
a few feet away from the mechanic. It's so close
he can hear breathing and smell it. It turns around
and looks at him and dives back over the fence.

(47:23):
And a short time later other people see a small
one and a big animal. That led to a big
search fight. The Pittsburgh police and animal protectors would tranquilize
their guns. They searched and searched, they couldn't find it.
There's very few in captivity. Nothing's missing. I had one
of mine research people my team was a former military
special forces guys. I recall with a lot of track experience.

(47:46):
He got out there and attracted distance and what's gone.
But the whole point is this, when you get these reports,
there are so few in captivity.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Nothing's ever missing, sure, exactly exactly. And of course that's
the thing. When let's say for a zoo, you know,
something gets out, the first they're going to call the
police to say, oh my god, you know, we've got
a dangerous animal that escaped, So the police would have
been aware of something like that. They're not going to
keep it a secret. I can imagine that poor guy
man talk about a way to clear a room. You

(48:15):
look and there's a life. It's like, okay, he must
have been a nervous wreck for a few days after that.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, Well, let me tell you. I deal with people
on these calms every day. I'm getting current and past
reports in here all the time. And why I deal
with mainly Pennsylvania. I get calls from over the country
and around the world at times. People have these incidents
and want to talk about them. And there's so many
similarities to these reports, the little details, a lot of
the small things people don't even know about that they
tell me. And it's so complex and so bizarre, and

(48:46):
so many of the people that call me are people
didn't believe in these stories. I mean, hunters have been
out in the woods for years. I never saw a
thing until that one day, and their lives are changed.
I get calls from men, women, children, people, all walks
of life. Hunter is educator, first responders. You have no
reason to make these stories up. They have nothing to
gain their names are not used and they're just even

(49:07):
liked them to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
No, I'm going to tell you something. When you mentioned
that's then I was practicing hypnotherapists for many years and
I on occasion, you know, more than once, I had
people call me through other friend of a friend of
a referral because they were they had had, for lack
of a better word, I'm going to use the word trauma,
because trauma's not only physical, because they had had some

(49:31):
type of sighting and they could not square it in
their head. And these people were having a hard time sleeping.
They normally were not anxious people, but they became anxious people.
Some of them, I know from what they told me,
they wouldn't if they were hunters, They wouldn't want to
go back out hunting or camp if it had to
do with the outdoors. They just they were this one incident,

(49:53):
there's one sighting for them, shifted their reality very very
badly for them. And I had, you know, they called
for help as far as the lower anxiety. And I
even had one guy tell me, can you make me,
can you hypnotize me to make me forget something? And
I was like what, and oh, yeah, you know because
and so I understand perfectly well what you're talking about

(50:14):
as far as for that one encounter that they have,
even from the non believer, it's like that it changes
everything for them.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Oh yeah, that's what I do with all the time.
And I can tell you I remember before the pandemic hit,
I do a lot a lot of different events invite
me to speak or appear at the like sporting events
and outdoor shows, and I meet a lot of hunters
and people everywhere I go, and I've been doing a
lot of these all year. Everywhere I go, people come
up to be sharing their recent or past experiences. And

(50:46):
I can tell you almost nobody reported to anybody. We
cannot even imagine how much this is going on. We
don't know about a week, month, years and never reporting.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Absolutely, there's people out there that for whatever reason, whether
it's their career, their families are to them. If I
talk about it, it'll make it more. There's a slew
of people that just just don't. I don't think they
even tell their spouses. They don't tell anybody.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I know that for a fact. I mean I know
what people in recent weeks have told me. They can't
talk to anybody, even their family about it. Yeah, and
that's that's not uncommon anymore either, And it's just amazing.
But before the pandemic, I was at a sporting event
and I think it was two or three separate hunters
came up to me and were telling me about things
that they had experienced in the weeks before. And I

(51:32):
remember at least two of these guys big fellows been
out for years. They're sitting there where tears coming out.
I tell me what happened to them? They said they
love the woods and they don't know if who ever
go back in the woods again.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yes, yes, I'm telling you. People think nah, I go, yes,
this is something that. Don't get me wrong, you guys.
This has nothing to do with being macho or strong.
But this for them was like this is you know,
like in other words, this is this shouldn't exist. This
is just the stuff of a great sign five movie.
What In other words? One thing is you can hear

(52:03):
the reports or see it on a show or a movie,
but everything changes when you see It's it's that's that's
the Whether it has nothing to do with you recording
it or playing did you see it and you know
what it is, and there's no other explanation for it.
That's what changes their reality for the reality they live in.

(52:24):
How's that? I mean, that's you something Stan. Have you
ever had people describe but they've had a sidon they
want to say either UFO and or cryptid where then
they start having weird stuff happening in their house or
they even start having more encounters with that.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh yeah, I knew about that back in nineteen seventy two. Okay,
and if you have my Solid Invasion book which goes
in a great detail, but that massive weight in seventy
three and a little before that and after that, but
all the weird things began to come to our attention
with UFOs and Bigfoot, and we began to realize big
was much more unusual than an unknown animal, and we began, well,

(53:02):
we found a case in nineteen seventy two where where
a very bizarre bigfoot incident happened. I'd have to go
back and review it, but basically this is down the
Mont Valley area, which is probably about thirty forty miles
outside of Pittsburgh along the Mont River. One of these
little river towns where there's been sightings for years and

(53:22):
years even the last few years of all kinds of
things around the river in the river over the river,
bigfoot stuff, thunderbird sightings, weird creatures seen in the river,
all kinds of stuff for years and years. And this,
as I recalled, this is around October seventy two. So
the witnesses initially thinking it's around the Halloween time, and

(53:45):
these were some teenagers. Stall was driving his car down
the road Dad even downtown. It's a very small little town,
and they see this tall figure. Their first saw was
it must he saw me in a costume, because this
thing is tall, covered with hair and long arms. And
these kids reportedly actually was right in town and they

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actually had this thing pinned between the sidewalk and their vehicle.
At first, things they moved up very slowly, think it
was somebody who's going to cause a problem being dressed up.
And they realized this was not a cost and this
was a real thing. Said immediately backed up, and this
thing starts running down the road. So they hurried down
the road because they were on the way down to

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a friend's house a few blocks away where a bunch
of kids are They're having a birthday part or something outside,
So they get over there and warned of this big
thing is going to be coming. And they look at
here the things coming closer to them, and this went
actually happened. These kids were so scared they actually fled
and actually ran right through the glass door. And a
lot of them were hurt really bad from glass. And

(54:48):
this kid who was driving the car was there with him.
He had a lot of glass in them. He ended
up in the hospital emergency that room that night. But
they all saw this huge creature. Okay. When his mother
came to get him, he told her the story, she
didn't believe him. She was very well educated. I've got
to interview her too, but I think it was within
a few weeks later, both the mother and the son

(55:10):
began to see these small, the small, flooding humanoids in
their home at different times, in their bedrooms.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
There you go, That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yeah, and I've heard many other cases. So that gets
back to the orbs that I wanted to tell you about,
because I think this is one of the most interesting
and most important part of the UFO UAP mystery. You're
starting to hear more about it on TV and some
of the shows I've been doing a lot of programs
about and others have. It's coming out more and more,
so I'm sure you'll be more about her than the

(55:39):
weeks and months ahead. But any I knew about these
cases back in the nineteen sixties, I was called them
many UFOs for years. So these objects the smallest ones
that I know about. They're about the size of oversized fireflies,
of lightning bugs, but most of them about the side
of a gulf, all to a baseball, to about a
foot or two in diameter. They're gently spherical, but not

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always the chimney's vehicle. Some are more solid looking, others
a few cases they look more metallic and solid. Generally,
they're light sources of different colors, and even though sometimes
they're very very bright, they don't emit any surrounding light
when they're moving. Okay, but here's what's interesting. Over the years, now,
in daylight, I've had reports these things following vehicles. I've

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had them enter peopil's homes and cars through open windows.
I've had them tap on people's living room windows and
people go look to see weathers. They fly off. Now
we're getting more and more reports of these things appear
in the side of people's homes, and that's going on
now around the country as well. I think it was
about three years ago up an area X I was

(56:45):
telling you about, which is similar to Skinwalker up here
in Fayette County. There was a pretty good team of
some experienced researchers up there investigating the area. A lot
of these dollars and men and women they all knew
me for years, told something about the orbs, and I
think they're a little skeptical. But that night there was
a lot of odd activity in that area. There were

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different teams up there in different areas, and they had
radio equipment, so they're communicating with each other, and these
groups of orbs of life were coming very low and
in some cases coming within three to five feet of
some of these people, and they, let me tell you,
some of their lives were changed. Okay, But we're starting
to hear more cases, not just there, about others of

(57:29):
physiological effects being reported. And one of those fellas, and
you may hear a little more about this in the future,
if he decides to talk more about it. One of
those fellows who I know very well, he had one
these small orbs come up within a few feet of
them and not long after who this person who had
never had any medical problems, had severe eye damage. I

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mean severe eye damage. We had to have surgery, all
kinds of problems with his vision, and he seems to
believe that it was connected what happened. So let me
tell you back in twenty twenty two, we had the
biggest serves of these cases ever anywhere in the country
here in Pennsylvania. I can't imagine how many more than
were we didn't hear about. But again, they're come from

(58:12):
all across the state and I just went area. So
we have reports of these things. And what's intriguing about
these reports of this one, they're not high. We're hearing
a lot of reports of orbs and balls of light
in the sky, but the ones I'm talking about are
very low, close to the ground. In cases where these
things are actually on the ground, okay, But what's intrigued.
In daylight and beautiful afternoons, these things have been coming

(58:36):
up three or four feet away from people. If you
go to my website and you go through some of
these reports, a lot of information on my website for people,
you can read some of these cases. There was one
case even earlier this year that was quite fascinating. This
was I think it was in January January twenty first

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up in Fayette County. Jim Brown investigated all reports on
my website. But this was early morning hour. The thing
was round, if I remember. On five o'clock in the morning,
this guy was just sitting there drinking coffee, getting awake,
and he noticed that there was this light shining in
his kitchen on the ceiling, like there was somebody walking
around me with a flashlight outside. So he gets up

(59:20):
and immediately goes and looks out the window and he
sees these three balls of lights sitting on.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
The ground that about the size of basketball.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
There were a few inches between them, forming a triangle shape.
And he said, that's when things got really more interested
because these objects were sitting there and glowing like a
light bulb. They immediately came together to form a single
light that got much brighter than shot straight up to
the sky and was gone a matter of seconds.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Wow, you know what that reminds me? And I'm sure
they because you know, sometimes these stories come up, but
they're written up years later. A couple of years ago
they told the story of some of those balls of light.
But this was much bigger coming up, and it stayed around.
I think it was one of these large navy ships. Okay,
this happens supposedly around two thousand and five. And the

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people that were on there that they interviewed, obviously they
had already left the service. They were exactly like what
you're talking about round, spherical. They don't have hard edges. Okay.
In other words, they're like, well, they want to say glowing,
but they're not, like you could say, it's a complete
hard circle. And they themselves that it followed them the

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ship around for like three or four days. And the
people on there, what they couldn't understand is they're supposed
to log everything that happens on that ship in some
type of log, especially if you're doing some type of duty,
and they were told not to write it down, or
the ones that did write it down, depending on what
time I guess they have guard duty or whatever it

(01:00:54):
is that you're supposed to say that part of their
observations or their entries were to out. And the ones
that didn't write it were the ones that went to
their superiors and said, hey, what is this thing? They
were saying, just ignore it, and they could understand it
because they said this was five oh six. This was
what four or five years after ninety eleven, and where
you would think they would be like what is this?

(01:01:17):
And they wrote up this story like two or three
years ago. I don't want it was one of the
military magazines I think I can't remember which ones, And
now that you're saying that, obviously it was a little
bit bigger. But the same thing that ORB type of
you know, appearance that just follow them around. Nothing bad
happened or nothing good. They couldn't feel anything. The only

(01:01:39):
thing that they couldn't understand why the uh I guess
the commanding officers on the ship or whoever makes decisions
didn't do something about it. They themselves are like what
is this? And then it just stopped like the after
three or four days. So that ORB thing that does
make a lot of sense of what you're talking about,
even though what you're describing is much smaller.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Yeah, well let me tell you what in twenty twenty
to just give me for an example, October twenty twenty two.
So first one is around six o'clock in the morning,
as I recall, up in Fayette County, this woman finds
her husband sound asleep on the porch and the cold
weather in his pajamas, which he would never do. When
he finally was awakened, he told her, who is going

(01:02:19):
out to get the newspaper just been delivered. And as
he's walking towards the newspaper box, this small round sphere,
I think it was about a foot in diameter was
very close to him, and he said, all of a
sudden he got so tired he couldn't stay awake, and
he falls asleep on the porch. So three days later,
about thirty some miles the way outside of Ligand here,
so the areas really active is the Chestnut Ridge area

(01:02:42):
Den there's a little divide, and then you go into
the Laurel Highlands with just it's also very active with
all kinds of strange activity from different people for years,
and a lot in the last couple of years. Anyhow,
this lady's awakened in her home out in the country
two thirty in the morning. She gets up to go
to the restroom. She comes out of the restroom in
her living room. Five feet away, she sees this dark

(01:03:04):
blue globe of light about a foot and a half diameter.
It has some kind of a dark mass moving around
the side of it. She remembered taking a step towards
that she felt like a slight electrical conjolt, and then
she said she got so tired she couldn't stay awake.
The next day she thought very weak, very sickly, and
she said, I'm an insomniac. I don't fall asleep like that.

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So within three days he had two similar physiological effects.
And we're hearing more reports like this, with different types
of physiological effects being reported now right, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I've heard and I'm sure there's a couple of them
that have become well known, of people that have seen
actual UFOs and then they've either gotten some type of
either the equivalent of radiation burns or like you said,
or their eyesight has been affected, that kind of thing.
But these have been sightings of actual UFO cross, not

(01:03:58):
a not like an orb. And it makes you wonder
is this intentional? Is this unintentional? Because I will tell
you sometimes and I don't think that's the case with
what you're describing, but sometimes in cases of extreme trauma,
like when you really your mind can't comprehend it, you
do fall asleep. You will go to you put yourself

(01:04:20):
to sleep. Your brain says we're going to put you
to sleep because I'm not your sanity is having a
moment that you'll have people that will, like you said,
fall asleep like but in this, you know, it doesn't
sound like this is it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Is it this thing making them sleep? Or is it
their mind putting them to sleep, because otherwise you wouldn't
not be able to handle what you're actually seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Well, I think something else that's been going. I've been
getting more and more reports for years, and more in
the last year or so. And you might find this
of interest too, and there may be a reason for it.
But I'm talking to withnesses who have very, very detailed.
You have a lot of uf into this low level
close range where they were with a relative or friend,
and right after it happens, another person either one refuses

(01:05:08):
to talk about her two doesn't remember it. And some
of these people in for years later they refuse and
don't want to discuss it with the other witness who
remembers it perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Well, okay, see, yes, and I've heard of that. I've
heard of people saying we both saw it. Like in
other words, the two people know that they see to
something they talk about it, and then later on, sometimes
even years later, they'll talk to that person and that
person will like look at them like I don't remember that.

(01:05:38):
In other words, not like a faking it, Like it's
not that I don't want to talk about it's just
that they'll look at them blankly, like what are you
talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
And then there's other incidents that are very very strange
as well. You know, there's different physiological effects being reported
in some cases, psychological effects. Some incidents. I'll talk of
a lot of hunters involved with the Bigfoot and other
cryptid stuff and people out in the woods who you know,
they report overwhelming fear that all of a sudden they

(01:06:09):
are completely disoriented. They know the area very very well,
but everything looks completely different. The paths look different. They
don't know where they're at. And sometimes that seems to
happen during an experience where they're there but it's something else.
The environment looks completely different. It's so interesting, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Well, you know what, high anxiety, high high high anxiety
will do that to people, like like you said, you
might I've gone to this place a million times and
all of a sudden you look at it you know,
like when you arrivee someplace you've never been to before
that you don't know what's what or where's you know,
like where does that high anxiety will put you in
that frame of mind where your mind like yourself. It's

(01:06:51):
making you more anxious to realize that I should know
this and I can't get my bearings. So anxiety.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Yeah, but what's going on is that these people everything
is normal. But one of the things shown up more
and more over the years is that these people are
out there in the wooded areas and suddenly all the
nature sounds to go completely silent. Yes, might be nothing,
and then they had this overpowering fear that something is
there around them. They hear something chasing them at times

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they can't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yes, And so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
There's other effects being reported at the pattern to what's
going on by so many different people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Yes, that thing that you said that all of a sudden,
all the insects, everything that usually makes noise, it quitees
down to the point that it's like, what's that exactly?
Somebody that's familiar with the outdoors, and even people that
are not that familiar with the outdoors think why is
it gotten so quiet? What's wrong? You know, And I
think that it's part of our whether you want to

(01:07:48):
call it, our basic survival instinct that you're like a
high alert, like okay, am I sitting duck where I'm
at right now? Yeah, you kind of feel like they're
being watched. I'm sure you've heard of those stories of
people saying, look, I had this intense feeling of being watched.
I don't know by what, but oh yeah, that's very common. Yes, yes,

(01:08:12):
that And again do you have have you had reports
of and I know that a lot of people of
dog men out and where you're at.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Yes, I have, and very interestingly, in the last few weeks,
I can tell you it's as though it's as though
a zoo of unknown creatures suddenly just all escape and
are being reported from different areas because we had I
think I mentioned earlier, we had a pterodactyl sighting by

(01:08:46):
guys I'm very familiar with the outdoors. We've had bigfoot sightings,
We've had a bustle black panther incident, and and we
had a dog man incident now going back to nineteen
seventy three, and we had that major outbreak and when
all these big foot sites being reported, and a lot

(01:09:08):
of the bigfoot sightings. They were your typical bigfoot reports,
something seven to nine foot tall, but there were some variations.
Some were taller and thinner, some were shorter and more
mustard looking. And then we had smaller ones and actually
in the last few years of getting more reports of
smaller ones as well, around four to five feet tall.
But there were some reporters and some really very strange,

(01:09:30):
incredible reports back in these days where people were i
mean literally a few feet away from them. I'll tell
you one very strange story and again all this is
my solid Invasion book. We could we don't have the
time to get into even half of what was going on,
but anyhow, and then remind me to tell you about
this one just happened a few weeks ago. But anyhow.

(01:09:52):
So here's a woman during this massive bigfoot outbreak. She's
visiting friends. This occurs in a rowyer between Greensburgs and
net Pennsylvania, with our been a lot of sightings going on.
She was visiting friends that had a home that was
in the country, not too many homes, an with a
very low foundation to the ground. So she gets up
I think it was around three, three thirty in the morning.

(01:10:13):
She's in the bathroom. So the bathroom now is at
ground level and the windows right there, so some we
could easily have walked up and looked right directly in
her face. Is what exactly what happened. She was sitting there,
she hears these strange animal sounds, and suddenly here's this
hideous thing rises up from the ground. It's looking at

(01:10:34):
her directly the other side of the screen, so like
a foot away from her, looking directly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Into her face.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
She's describing the skin, the glowing eyes, the fing like teeth,
and the face looks more.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Like a roof of a dog.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Okay, she's hysterical. She runs out of there, screaming. She
called the state police in Greensburg. The state police phone
passed her to me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
I interviewed her.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Trooper one. Now he found some tracks out there. Anyhow, Listen,
here's the only strange part of the story. This is
something that those people don't ever hear about it. I've
had more than one report like this. It's not that comment.
She was so frightened she asked the people to take
her to her home a few miles away. Within the hour,
the same or similar creature shut up her house.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Wow, see it's following her.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Yeah, this stuff is all interconnected. It's connected with the
orbs of bite, the bigfoot stuff, the UFO stuff, a
lot of these anomalies. I'm telling you, a lot of
this stuff is all interrelated.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
And you know what, there's that there's that sci fi
horror movie called Jeepers Creepers where supposedly the creature sense
people like that once it has your scent, it can
follow you around. And I think I think in some
instances this happens with people that have these encounters with
some of these cryptids.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yeah, and you know, here's something just a part of it.
And then I'll tell you about this some dig man
sighting here. But a lot of my friends were over
in Vietnam during the sixties and they were coming back
and some people heard about these reports. Now they are
telling me about the rock apes. What they called these
these small, were hairy, bigfoot type creatures over in Vietnam,
they called the rock apes. But they some of these

(01:12:18):
fellows told me I never heard people talk about, but
they told me that these creatures had the ability to
pick up the scent of an individual soldier. So when
they went out. They always went and growth because they
want these things to follow them down, follow them somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Yes, yes, I believe it. I believe that that that happens,
that it once it has your scent for whatever reason,
and maybe there's something more attractive about some sense versus others.
All right, where it? You know? The the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
I had an email this was way back on the early
two thousands from it sounded like a young guy, same thing,
and I wanted to real brief he went on a
hunting trip. They left suddenly because some has had something
and it sounded like the equivalent. He didn't know what
it was, but he had gone out with his dad.
He was a young guy, sounded like a teenager. They
all leave all of a sudden, and his dad wouldn't
tell him why. And he's like, well, you know, what's

(01:13:12):
the big deal? And it sounded in his email is
this was way before you know not now everybody puts
stuff on social media. But I would get a bunch
of weird emails and he tells me that it sounded
like he lived in some type of rural area in
the Midwest. I'm not sure. Sometimes people are really vague
on purpose of when they're telling you their story. And
he was the first one home from school and he said,

(01:13:34):
he says, usually I would head to the kitchen and
get something to eat. And he said it was a
two story house. And he says he hears like a
movement like creaking a wood upstairs, and he's like, that's weird.
And he said that he starts up the stairs and
he hears like something like growling a little bit. He's thinking,
and he goes, my dogs. We kept him outside, so
he's thinking, how did my dogs get inside? And he

(01:13:56):
said when he got to the first landing that he
could look up the hallway of that second floor, he
saw what. He didn't call it a dog man. He
didn't use that word. He used something like a werewolf
or like a wolfman kind of deal. He says that
he jumped out over the banister and he ran. His
grandparents' house was close by, and he says that in

(01:14:17):
the email, he describes how he didn't tell any of
his family, but he says, I after that, I never
made I never went home to when I was alone,
you know, because I guess he was the first one there.
And he says about a year later was when he
finally got around to asking his dad, like, hey, why
did we leave that hunting trip all of a sudden,
like and his father tells him, well, this is one

(01:14:38):
of the guys says he saw something and described what
he had seen upstairs, and he was like what. Then
he tells his dad and his dad's like, why didn't
you tell me? Why you didn't tell me the story?
But again coming circling back to that thing about where
they when they pick up your scent almost it's like
they follow you, and I know that's kind of creepy,

(01:14:59):
but yeah, that's something about certain people. You know, you
there's and god knows what that attraction can be. It
could be anything. We don't We don't really understand it.
I think as far as.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Oh, well, there's a lot of this we don't understand.
Nobody does, including the government. I'm pretty certain they're aware
of some of what's going on, but dan were understanding either,
which is one reason why there's similar secrecy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Do you think, Stan, do you think I know that
we're Do you think any of these cryptids, well, not
the ones like the let's say the the Black Panthers,
but let's say whether they want to call them a
Bigfoot or even dog man, that there's some type of
experiments gone wrong, hybridization or something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Or unintentionally I realized, I mean, could there be cases
like Gagnar. Hear all kinds of stories over the years,
but you know, these reports and Pensvane, they go back
to the Native Americans. Yes, uh, you know. I used
to get invited over the year to some of the
Native American pow wows that had around the area, and
they made me to speak and I've got to meet

(01:16:06):
you know, different Native Americans there, and they talk to
me about their families and the history of their encounters
with big foot across the state. And of course back
in the early days they'd call them bigfoot, they called
a wild man of a wizard of forest. And there
tell me similar stories too about you know, the strange
lights and the fact that the big food is more
spiritual nature than being a physical animal of the forest.

(01:16:27):
And it's been going for a.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Long long time, and there's.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
So much that people don't know about. Again, about the
bigfoot cases we're dealing with it, it's much much stranger.
And again a lot of this connects with other cryptids
as well that I'm finding similar patterns. So I'd really
think a lot of this is interconnected. Again, do I
have any answers? No, I don't think anybody does. But
this is what's going on. And again it's not just

(01:16:52):
coming from me, come from many other witnesses and many
of the researchers around the country. Now we're finding the
same thing. And many people in the big field who
many many years ago used to laugh at these reports, well,
now they're having their own experiences and they know something's
going on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Sure, No, I think that when I say, you know,
when you put out the people that they're crazy, the
people that are lying, or the people that are mistaken
by this, I mean they think they saw something, but
they really did. That still leaves so many reports out there,
stands so many that you cannot ignore it. That there's
got to be truth into it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
We could we could talk here for days about some
of the case I investigate, which is just amazing. UFO
intents that most people don't know about. They're very well documented.
I mean, these are all cases that I didn't hear
about years and years later. I mean, these are cases
where we investigate in some of them within hours right
after they occurred or within days, so all this was
fresh data.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
We interviewed people, had I peem researchers out there, we investigated.
Sometimes the police were involved in some of the cases,
and it was just amazing stuff. But I was going
to tell you about this REPORTEDS, And this happened in
mid May of this year, when other reports come in
of other things from different areas, and this person called me,

(01:18:08):
and I can tell you this person was highly, very
very shaken upset, and this had occurred around one o'clock
in the morning. Her neighbor's dogs are going crazy. She
lived in a rural area where they've been sighting for
years by different people and have been in recent years.
And she thought it was a deer running through her yard,
through her garden, so she had ten cans out around
her garden. They were making noise like a metal sound,

(01:18:30):
which is very interesting because I was mentioning back in
the early seventies, we didn't know why, but some witnesses
were telling me that sometimes during the Bigfoot experience they
were hearing these odd metal sounds, like metal, wine metal.
And in the last few years now we're getting many
reports from other areas with other people reporting the same
type of strange metallic sound in conjunction with bigfoot activity,

(01:18:52):
and that's ongoing even recently, so that's interesting too. But anyhow,
going back to this report, So she looks out the
window and around fourteen feet away she sees at first
what she thought was a very large black German shepherd dog,
but it's standing on its hind legs. And then as
she looks, she realizes this thing never got went down

(01:19:12):
all fours is walking around at least seven to.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Eight foot tall.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
It has no tail, It has long black hair and
very long arms. It has a snout and pointed ears,
and has very bright, luminous red eyes. And at one
point it look directly at her at the window, and
she became extremely upset. And then apparently the next day
went out and they found these three tow tracks in
the garden.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Let me tell you something. Talk about putting up a
for sales SIGNA.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Let me tell you these things are going on. There
is probably is not an area around this part of
Pennsylvania where there haven't been reports. I mean literally, including
many of the populated areas. It is amazing this, you know,
Like I said, I deal with these cases almost every day.
I can't even imagine how much we don't hear about.
Because I'm in touched with many other researchers, I have
access to a lot of sources for information coming in,

(01:20:05):
and there's so much we just never hear about till
sometimes weeks, months or years later.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yet then yes, yes, people don't realize people some people
really know how to keep a secret for a long time.
They do. They do because, like I said, they might
not tell you, then tell close friends, their spouses, they
don't tell anybody, And I think sometimes like you said,
they look, let's say, like somebody like you stand that
is like you know, I'm going to tell you this,
and I'm sure you're not going to laugh because because

(01:20:31):
of who you are, you've probably heard stories like this.
But I got to tell somebody what I saw because
I can't think, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Yeah, it's just amazing. And you meet all kinds of reputiles.
I mean, some of the people I talk to, you'd
be amazed at their backgrounds and who they are and
why they want privacy and why they don't want to
be recognized.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Oh no, I tell everybody, even with all the reality
shows and everything, you tell something, and this is depending
it's a career killer. You know, people will forever remember
you as that or you know, if there's a promotion
or something, you'll be known as that guy that remembered
or saw or hey. You know. So there's a lot
of people that will keep things to themselves and say,
you know what, now, I wish I could talk about this,

(01:21:12):
but forget it. Forget it because the stigma of it
and unfortunately it And I've even heard of some supervisors
of people that will say that that they'll say look,
and the supervisor say, look, I don't want to hear
do not tell me about this because then I'm gonna
have to make a report on this. So do not
tell me the story, right, because they want to shut

(01:21:35):
them down because you know, it's they tell them something
to look, it's gonna look bad on you. Don't make
me have to write up a report on what you're
about to tell me. All right, So there's yeah, there's
there's definitely uh in certain jobs or locations or whatever,
there's this unsaid rule about certain things like that you

(01:21:57):
just don't talk about it, yeah, because if not, it'll
lead to things that nobody wants to go there. They
know it exists. And like you said, the source is
very credible, but just for that very fact that they're
so credible is why they really don't want to go
further with it. That's correct, because it's because when it's

(01:22:18):
a crazy person, you can say, oh, they're just crazy,
but when it's not, let me ask you stance. I
don't know, how are you familiar or have you heard?
They're mostly seen out in California, something called the dark Watchers.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
I've heard it mentioned that. I'm not sure it couldn't
give you more detail.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Dark they've they've been cited supposedly in other parts of
the country, but they've mostly been seen out in the
mountain range, like by Big sur and the Santa Lucia Mountains.
And basically what they are are dark silhouettes and people
see they're usually staring off into the distance, and then
they just kind of fade out and they disappear.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Now you're talking about shadow people.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
It sounds like shadow people, but they've they've been They're
usually seen either at sun up or sundown, even though
some people have seen them in the middle of the day.
They're usually seen at a distance. All right, Let's say
on a cliff or somewhere and if you see them,
like you start looking at them, they just fade out
and they fade away. And they're usually very tall, seven

(01:23:18):
to ten feet in height. Sometimes they are described as
most of the time wearing like a cow or a
cloak or something like that, that kind of outline. In
some cases they've been seen with broad brimmed hats and
a walking stick. And there's where sometimes they even tend

(01:23:40):
to be seen more with people with either no low
tech or no a lot of electronic stuff, like if
you're a camper and you're out there and you don't
have a lot of high tech. They say those kind
of people more easily see them. And they've supposedly they've
been sighted for at least a couple of hundred years
out there. And I was wondering if you had come

(01:24:02):
across any stories like that, and it was a shadow person,
but not really.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Not the typically I have heard over many many years.
I've heard a few similar stories just from memory. I
can't I can't remember a lot of detail, but some
of those might fit into that. We've had reports of
smaller humanoid creatures floating above the ground. One was carrying
like a like a on what I want to say,

(01:24:27):
walking stick or something floating across the field. And I
think it was like five witnesses. Yes, we've had floating entities.
We've had winged humanoids. We've had a thing years ago,
real famous, something bumper kind of called the Bumper gargoyle.
And I interviewed this Stella many times. I interviewed him
right after it happened. He has an amazing background. And

(01:24:48):
he was riding home up around East Brady back in
twenty eleven. His headlights casted something to the right side
of the field. Thought it was a deer. He slows down.
Suddenly this thing rises up from the ground und takes
three big steps in front of his vehicleing off into
the woods. And when I interviewed her right away, and
when he called me and he.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
Said, people thought about big thing. He said this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
It wasn't a big thing. He said, at least eight
foot tall, but was covered light leathery skin. They head
was shaped like an aerodynamic helmet, the eyes were swept back.
It had claws for hands, but had wings tucked into
its back and took three big steps across the road
and gone within a few days. Numerous other witnesses in
that area were reporting to the local research group up

(01:25:33):
there in Bubbler.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Let me tell you something that'd be one of those
notes to self. Do not take this roadever again. You
know what, I don't know if you ever have you
ever seen this as an old, old but not that old.
I think it was released like late seventies, early eighties.
It was called Gargoyles. Okay, I don't know if you
ever seen that movie stand because what you just described
is exactly that. Like basically you know usually see gargoyles.

(01:25:55):
Of course, the statues and things we just described as
exactly what that was. What that looks like, which is
you know, not small, but that leathery with the wings
tucked behind it. Ye, let me tell you something that
right there, that's like the stuff of nightmares. I'll tell
you that much right now. And let me ask you

(01:26:16):
did you ever see that again? Did he ever have
any other type of encounter?

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
No, but other people saw the same thing out in
that general area within a few days.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Isn't that interesting? Think about it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
A lot again.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
You know, I've written four books.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
I wish we had time for hours and hours of talk,
but there are so many amazing incidents in these books,
the Creepy Cryptis Book, the new one. I mean, it
has things that nobody's ever heard of before. Some of
these stories are actually creeping me out they were so unusual.
But these are all people I interviewed myself. And you know,
everybody's heard about math Man and West Virginia back in

(01:26:51):
the sixty six sixty seven. I'm sure you have as well. Yes, okay,
during that time. Of course, there was no Internet back
in those days, and I was hearing rumors of something
simhe was going on in the Pittsburgh area. And years
and years later I found two different separate incidents where
sometime a mod Man incident was taking place in the

(01:27:11):
Pittsburgh area at the same time it was going on
West Virginia. And the one report is actually from another
author who I got to know very well, was very credible.
He was the best friend of the witness who was
with his girlfriend parking what they had in the encounter
with the creature. It is much weirder and stranger anything

(01:27:31):
happened in West Virginia. And his whole story, his whole
accounts in the Creepy Cryptis book, it is amazing, let
me tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Something, And it's really funny because sometimes you have these
sightings and then they stop. You know, you'll have them
for a couple of Like you said, various people that
are unconnected will see it and then all of a
sudden they stop, as just a sudden then they stop,
and it makes you then go into that interdimensional like speculation.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Yeah, well it goes deeper than that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
In fact, because I got.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Very much more of this years and years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
I'm still in touch with some witnesses.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
And people I interviewed from forty years ago. One woman
in particular, she was a very young child who was
missing at the time here in Whorl, West Warren County.
There was a big search for her and they found
her standing right in the middle of a field that afternoon.
What they had searched many times, she said she was
here the whole time, and from that from that time

(01:28:29):
she was young, she had paranormal experiences in her homes,
the apparitions. Throughout her life. She had UFO encounters, big
food encounters, sometimes other people are with her too, sometimes
orbed encounters, creature encounters. Then as time went on, her
children did now her grandchildren.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Tier effect that they worried about. Yeah, I know the
people that worked out there in the skinwalk a round cotton.
That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Yeah, well, and that's what I've been doing with for years.
I've known about this for years. I'm in touch with numerous,
numerous people like this who don't know each other, who
have had these experiences at the time they were little.
So you've got everyday people who may have a one
time encounter with a bigfoot or UFO, a crypto. Then
you have another group of people who have a whole

(01:29:17):
lifetime history and patterns and similarities of these things going
through generations of families, some going back to grandparents and
parents and children. It's amazing. But here's the thing that's
really interesting. Even in recent weeks and months, and especially
last year, these people don't know each other, and sometimes
when one of them is having the experience, sometimes the

(01:29:41):
other ones are calling me the same day or within
the days tell me the things they're experiencing as well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Wow, see that tells you, you know, and it makes
it wonder how is it? God? Is it a bloodline?
What is it? You know? What makes them? Or like
you know, how you hear about twins that they know
when something's happening to the other twin.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Yeah, well I can tell you is this I felt
for years and years after interviewing a lot of people
that have won. Some of these people had certain abilities
they could possibly be able to perceive certain things that
other people couldn't, or that the phenomena is attracted to
them for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Yes, okay, that makes sense, that makes sense. That yeah,
that there's something again, you know what comes first the
chicken under the egg? Is it that they're picked or
you know, or there's something already with them about them,
even from their bloodlin or genetics, is what I'm saying,
Like you said that sometimes there's a family history of it,

(01:30:46):
and maybe the only ones that ever hear the stories
are the people within the family about things that they've saw,
and everybody's just like, okay, that's our family story kind
of thing. And then you find out that every generation
has had some time of experience along those lines. M hm.
So yeah, let me tell you something. It's it's uh

(01:31:11):
and you you know, you always get to the point like,
are we ever going to have the are we ever
going to solve the mystery? How's that?

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Are we ever going to find out really, you know,
are these all the same things? You know, what is
it that we're missing? Or is this in front of
us and we just don't see it? But you know,
I'm sure you've heard stand that some of these things.
Is that because our eyes can't capture the full spectrum
of color that sometimes we just basically things are in
front of us and we just don't see them. It

(01:31:40):
makes you wonder, are they just very good or have
something where they cloak themselves and they're watching us and
we're not aware of it. Or is it that they
just come back and forth like through some type of
or they even have like I even thought of interdimensional
pockets where they could just slip in there and like
hide out for a little bit and then just step
back out.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Yeah, they're here, undergone, They come and they go. I
have so many cases of these type of things. I
remember the last couple of years, I interviewed a hunter
who was up in a tree stand out in Dairy Township,
which is an extremely hotbed for bigfoot sightings in that
air the chests Nut Ridge in Westmoren County, and she
was a beautiful day. She's in her tree stand. She
has a complete open view a couple hundred feet. There's

(01:32:24):
nothing around where she's at. Suddenly she'ses an eight foot tall,
huge creature coming across the field. She said, this was
so weirdy that I picked up my rifle to look
at the scope. In a matter of seconds, I look
up and it's not there. She said, there was no
possible way for this thing to move anywhere around there
in a few seconds, that she shouldn't have seen a

(01:32:45):
moving on that was just there and was gone exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
And that's what I'm talking about. And now that you
mentioned when you said the thing about the flying humanoid,
and I ran across the street that back when Chernobyl
went off what was it the eighties, eighty three or
something or something that there have been reports of a
flying humanoid prior to the meltdown, And I was like, well,
that's that's so weird, is you know, because you know,

(01:33:09):
you always come back to like the when you know,
when it happened over here in what was it, Virginia,
West Virginia that some people say was it a warning
or was it you know, uh like basically signing it
was it was announcing that something bad was going to
happen that kind of thing, like the moth man thing,
And it makes you wonder again, you know these flying

(01:33:30):
humanoid sightings. Are they a portent of coming doom or
something totally different and they just appear on and off,
or they are attracted. I don't know, because when I
said chanormal, when you said that thing about energy sources,
I was thinking, well, that makes sense. You know something
was going to go on that that kind of deal.

(01:33:52):
You know, what's the attraction or are they just there
some type of warning or just drawn to the locations
where something going to happen. That's something that's going to happen.
And I'm sure you've heard that. Lately there's been some
humanoid sightings all over the place, like in Chicago and
very unusual places, populated places, and you're like, what.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Yeah, yeah, well I can tell you again dealing with
these cases regularly. And of course I've heard the stories
about the mark Man in West Virginia and they know
possibility there was some connection with the bridge bridge collapse.
But of the multitudes of cases I've had, I've never
had any incidents where these things that forecast sew me

(01:34:32):
along that line. So it's not something to get shown
up in case that I've looked into.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Okay, but you know what I'm talking about. That and
that's and and that's one of the things that you know,
you never know was it was. It just so happened
that it was cited because something else was going on,
you know, and it just coincided with the bridge collapse.
You never know really you know what, uh what prompted that.
But of course that that that that version that always

(01:34:58):
has always stuck around because of the movie, you know,
the Mothman prophecy. So everybody's thinking of it. Oh you
know you see a flying humanoid?

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
A lot of interesting things out there we just don't
know enough about.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
All right, Stand for my podcast listeners, can you give
them your website address?

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Sure, it's www dot Stan Gordon g O r d
O n dot I n f O Stan Gordon dot info,
my phone information, my contact informent emails on there if
people can reach me. And there's a lot of activity
going on. There's a lot of information on there. I'll
be updating again as soon as I can. We have

(01:35:38):
numerous events coming up over next several weeks and months.
We had the Kexberg UFO Festo July eighteenth to the twentieth.
This year's the sixtieth anniversary of the Kextborg incident, and
there's a lot of things coming up, so keep checking
the website and I think you'll be hearing a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
More fantastic and I'm going to have a link to
in the credits of the show. Thank you again so much, Danha.
It's been wonderful to talk to you guys, such great stories.
You're right, wait, good talk for hours and hours. You're great.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Okay, thank you very much. I have a good evening.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Likewise, take care, bye bye, good night, good night. Here
we go. I mean, let me tell you it's true. Man,
He's got the best stories. And the thing is a
part because he's got so many people calling him. And

(01:36:29):
you know that person, you say, the person that's heard
it all. I'm sure Stan has heard it all some versions,
you know. Like I said, you know, when you hear
a lot of stories, after a while, you know how
to filter out the person that's a little bit cuckoo,
the person the attention seeker, the liar, and then you
hear the stories from people like he says that are credible.

(01:36:49):
And there's one thing that also is a very good
indicator people that are genuinely frightened, or that you could tell,
like I said, that they have a hard time squaringness
and their reality that they're wigged out, all right. And again,
even if you take out okay, maybe what they say
only mistook something else, whatever it depends, you can't fake that.

(01:37:13):
You can't fake when somebody's really truly frightened, frightened, or
they cannot make head or tails of this especially and
I'm going to use to say the example of people
that are familiar with the outdoors, hunters who are familiar
with let's say where they're at, the animals, the sounds,

(01:37:36):
They just know where they're going, and when they see
or experience something and they come to that conclusion that
it was either a crypto or I'm not even saying bigfoot,
it could be anything that they just cannot make it fit.
And then they're left with only one possibility that they
saw whatever, let's say, bigfoot of a dog man whatever

(01:38:01):
that they've they tried to like, could it have been that? Nope, No,
because I know that animal. Nope. They hear like you know,
you hear some of these people describing bigfoot chatter or
screeches or howls or on that. A lot of them
will say, you hear these stories about people who are familiar,
like I know the noises that animals in this area

(01:38:22):
would make, even they're weird, or mating calls. I know
what there's like, and I know that this is not
any of those. Again, that puts people in a real predicament.
And again, which is one of what me and stand
were at one point talking about that, how do them
how do you go back into the woods, let's say,

(01:38:45):
use that as the scenario. How do you go back
there and hunt or go camping or just whatever, take
a hike when whether even if let's say you didn't
see something, you just heard something that you know that
all of a sudden it's like, oh, the wonderful outdoors,
it's not like the wonderful outdoors anymore, because you know

(01:39:08):
there's something out there that doesn't doesn't sound quite right
in your world of what you thought you knew, okay,
And that's that's a very difficult I'm telling you. There's
people that have been driven indoors from the outdoors because
of things they've seen or heard or experienced that they're

(01:39:28):
like I like that. I like that world, but I
just don't trust that world anymore because there's something there,
and you know, when you could you could logic it
and say, well, whatever's there was there all along and
you just didn't know. But that's it. Once you know,
once you've had that experience again, whether it's visual, auditory,

(01:39:51):
even sometimes a combination of smelled, you know something that
once you know it's it, you can't go back. That's
the you know, the BC and the AD you know
before they that's that once you're there, or let's say
there's you know, there's people that are loan hikers or
loan campers or loan hunters, and as a matter of fact,

(01:40:12):
they enjoy the solitude of going out there and doing
whatever they're doing because they're alone. And that's it, the
loan part. Even if they decide they're going to go
back outdoors, the loan part, the solo part is that's it.
It's done for them. Why because they don't trust being
out there anymore anymore. And I've even heard of some

(01:40:33):
people that were campers or outdoorsmen or hikers and they
were saying, you know, I would go and I was unarmed.
Maybe the most it would take is maybe a knife,
and more more than anything I was using, it is
you know, a utility like a knife if I need
a knife to cut something. But never like oh I
worried about self defense a lot of them. Never again.
They would never go back into the outdoors again unarmed.

(01:40:55):
They would take something with them usually, you know, besides
maybe a rifle, something they could carry on their hip,
like some type of pistol or revolver or something that
is like even if I have to go, you know,
it's gonna be there tied to me, because they, like
I said, they don't trust that world anymore. They don't

(01:41:16):
trust it. And like I said, these are people usually
that maybe knew that there were certain animals depending on
where they were, their predatory like bears, you know, mountain lions,
animals that have been known to kill humans. And still
they were okay with it, because it's like, okay, I

(01:41:37):
can handle that. I know they exist, I know they're
out there, and I know what to avoid and etc. Etc.
But this doesn't fall into that category at all at all.
And again you even have the people that they will say,
I know I was being watched, I've been out there
let's say in this area have gone out or and

(01:41:59):
I knew being watched, or in some cases even to
the extreme of I was being stocked. And the only
thing I can think of is that in a primitive
lizard brain, the fight flight or freeze section, that part
of your brain is saying, oh, you're in trouble. That thing,

(01:42:19):
that part of the brain, which but by the way,
doesn't It's not logical. It's not like, oh, I see
a bear coming down the thing, so I better be cared.
You know. There was no visual confirmation or something that
you can say, well, I'm wigged out and I know why. No,
it was something much more basic, some I said, act

(01:42:45):
of self preservation, some instinct of self preservation, where people
this guy, I felt like I was watched and then
in some cases stocked, as in I'm not the I'm
not the hunter, I'm the hunted kind of deal, and
so much so that in some cases it was how's
this again. It comes back to people, especially who have

(01:43:09):
experienced in the outdoors where they know, you know what,
this is not my imagination, because that usually as humans,
this is the first thing we tend to go with
when you get that intuition that doesn't make any sense,
like why am I no that this is not my
This is not me imagining it or distorting it or

(01:43:33):
exaggerating it. There's something here that maybe is either watching me.
How's this? And I'm sure it's happened to people. It's
not the question of staring or being looked at. And
there's people have had experiences where they said, oh, I
felt somebody was staring at me. This is let's say,
like a store you did around, there's actually somebody like
really eyeing you that intent. How's that that? There's an

(01:43:56):
intent with the act of watching you? All right? And
I think that that people, like I said, on some
base level feel it. And I want to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
In a.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Not in all but in many situations, this is the
first sign that you're going to get stocked, that you
might be a parade. That intense being stared at it.
If you if you've ever seen one animal stalk another,
that's what they do. They have this intense staring and
looking at whatever that whatever it is that they're stalking,

(01:44:40):
whatever they're they're looking to pounce on, they'll study it
and they'll just be there very still, and they watch
and watch and watch anybody's got a cat seen it.
I have one of my dogs that does that. But
same thing, I think that, And then you wonder will

(01:45:01):
we ever have an answer? Is it a question of disclosure?
Because some of this stuff, you know, like especially with
the UAPs even I hate that name UFOs. You know
in my book they're UFOs. We have so many conflicting
stories even now recently, you know that a lot of
these stories were basically about the uf the flying saucers

(01:45:24):
and all that stuff that basically the government was making
them up the Pentagon so that people would not realize
that basically what they were seeing was a us US
developing some type of I don't know, some type of
airplane or military or whatever. So they just like threw

(01:45:46):
this out there with the UFOs and the fly and
it's like, okay, after a while, you become very cynical
unfortunately as to where does the truth and and the
lie begin? As in okay. So now, don't get me wrong,
there's a part of me that says that sounds plausible.
We're all along, they've thrown that out there, these UFO

(01:46:08):
stories and the sidings thath blah blah blah blah, and
along it was a cover for like, yeah, you know,
forget the weather balloon stuff. We're gonna make like a
real stupid so that people go, that's the weather balloon.
We know that's not a weather balloon. That was a UFO,
that was a little It's like, yeah, okay, get carried
away as long as you don't realize what you were
really looking at. What's us? But then the flip side

(01:46:31):
of it is you speak to somebody like Stan, I'm
telling you there's all these people having these sidings that
are not your flying saucer. They're not your typical craft.
How's that?

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
The different ones that they've People will talk about, you know,
whether they're cylindrical or the triangular ones or the cigarette
none of that. We're talking here orbs, all right, Like
I said, no hard edges of different sizes, okay, as in, okay,

(01:47:05):
are these what are these? Are these lookouts or what's
in there? Or does Let's let's go down this. What
are these orbs? Let's say as big as a baseball
or a basketball whatever? Right, and you see this, what
are these basketballs based or basketball orbs? I'm sorry, which
is the right word? These orbs? You're thinking Okay, maybe

(01:47:28):
these are maybe these are like portable or flying doorways
or portals that maybe they become stationary and then they
open up and they expand and they become a doorway,
you know, and that's basically what they whatever, something can
come in and out through there and then it just

(01:47:50):
shrinks back and does its own thing. Now, what the
intelligence is behind this? The purpose? God, we are going
to directions on this all right? Again? Are they there
all the time and some people can't see it, don't
want to see it, or just something in the way

(01:48:10):
that what our eyes are capable of seeing, we just
don't see it, or you know, like in other words,
that they're cloaked. Let's go back to the Predator movie.
It was there and it just blended in and it
wasn't only till they kind of shifted that people realized
that was something the soldiers or is it not there?

(01:48:31):
And then it just comes into this dimension and again,
you know, you see more and more the more people
have talked to in this field, that whether it's the
UFOs ets even again the cryptids, is like there's an
intradimensional doorway inter or intradimensional doorway, which is how it
explains their appearance and or disappearance. So that Stan was saying,

(01:49:01):
which is, well, is this why sometimes there is no evidence,
which is what everybody's looking for, Like show me the
dead Bigfoot, or show me the dead dog man or
whatever the dead fill in the blank, same thing, Like

(01:49:22):
I was telling him, there's certain cryptos that are seen
for sometimes a couple of weeks, a couple of months
by credible witnesses, and then that's it. They disappear. Nobody
sees them again. Is it because these were ones that
for some reason at that point in time were able
to come through that one of these doorways portals and
then they went back or somebody fed, oh my god,

(01:49:43):
that you know what got out there? What go get them?
They brought him back in. It's just me making things up.
But why not? I'm telling you, in this field, anything
is plausible, doesn't matter. Doesn't have to be that far
fetched to be plausible. No, how's this It could be
far fetched and plausible at the same time. All right,
As far as anomalies, and again, you know a lot

(01:50:06):
of Wodstan was saying that people that have seen these
things and actually get around that talking about it or saying, look,
I saw this, and I wish I hadn't seen it,
but I saw it, or I can't make heat of
tales of it, but I saw it. They weren't looking
to have that experience. And I think that's a very

(01:50:27):
convincing scenario. And how's this versus the person that's going
out there in the field looking to have the experience,
which God knows nowadays it's a lot of them. These
are the people that were not looking to have the experience,
and they had it. They were hunting, they were fishing,
they were taking a stroll, they were hiking, or in

(01:50:47):
their house all right and going to the bathroom as
that was. In other words, this is not in their
wheelhouse of this is going to happen to me, or
I'm going to see this or nothing that's that. There's
nothing there. And let me tell you, I don't know
what my cat is at Marnie. I have a black cat.

(01:51:09):
That thing where that guy sees the cat and when
he looks this thing is like the size of a
leopard or a jaguar. I'd be like, holy smokes, oh shit,
let me tell you something. It'd be like whoa. And
I'm not kidding you. People don't realize. Also when he
said that thing about people falling asleep, like the next

(01:51:30):
thing they know, they're waking up. People don't realize that
if under extreme trauma or stress or anxiety, where you
see something that is just, for lack of a better word, incomprehensible,
you shut down. You know, like when you turn the
computer off because it's going and then you turn it
back on. Your brain kind of does that. It kind

(01:51:52):
of does that. It's like we're gonna shut down, even
if we're going to put you to sleep on the
sofa here on the porch, but gonna we're gonna shut
you down because of not your your your your main frame,
your your CPU is gonna go. So that part where
he's describing people falling asleep and not even remembering or

(01:52:14):
what weird places that usually a lot of not all
the time, but sometimes that's that's how people react under
extreme stress, like they see something and they're like, I
don't know what to make of this, or like he
was saying when he was describing a couple, when you
know a couple of people see something and then the
other one just says, I don't remember that. That's that's

(01:52:36):
typical of extreme stress. You have like this amnesia, even
post amnesia, where you just like, we're just gonna put
that way way wait, wait, wait, wait, way back in
the middle back of your subconscious mind where you don't
even remember it, and you will. You can very honestly
look at somebody and say, I don't know what you're
talking about, and you're not faking it, because we're going

(01:52:57):
to bury that way deep down there somewhere, okay, because
you're not handling it. Remember, your brain, your mind will
always try to keep you sane. Sometimes it'll see and
experience certain things which don't allow it to do that.
But most of the times, your brain, your mind tries
to keep you a sane person, a functioning person. And
that's why you have people with amnesia, temporary amnesia, long

(01:53:20):
term amnesia. I mean, it's not only when you get
a bump on the head. Sometimes this is just the
way you cope to coping mechanism, and it depends. You know,
some people can handle stuff really well and others can't,
and some people need houses. Some people take a mental
time out like a week, a couple of weeks, a month,
sometimes various months. Sometimes you'll have people that have been

(01:53:42):
witnessed to traumatic events, and let's say when they're questioned,
I'm gonna say by police, their memory might be kind
of sketchy because they're so wigged out. And then three
or four months later their memory comes back really really well,
and they'll say, well, why didn't you describe that at
the beginning, and when they honestly say, I couldn't remember

(01:54:03):
right then, but now I do. Part of it is
that part of it is that you kind of shut
down when what you saw, that trauma is fresh, because
it's just like, yeah, people, and I know it's a
difficult things some people know. Some people can handle it. Distressed,
they're wigged down, but they can handle it, and they'll

(01:54:24):
be like, you know, like and then you get into
when we're going into PTSD, which I should have asked
them about, because I'm wondering if there's any recovery groups
or not recovery groups that's a bad word for it.
A PTSD group for people that have seen weird stuff.
And I'm not even gonna whether it's your foes, Tea's cryptids,

(01:54:46):
just weird stuff. I wonder if there's you know, like
it's not like aa bas, these are recovery or ten
step groups. I'm talking about a group where people like
I want to go where there's other people that won't
look at me and go you a nuts. You know,
everybody's gonna share some type of really disquieting experience or

(01:55:07):
plural experiences that it's like, hey, we're all kind of
nutsy here, but thank god, you know, I wonder that's
that's very interesting. Want to look that upy group out there,
that that's where people just get together and because basically
that's that is the promise of group therapy, which is
you feel better because you realize there's other people that

(01:55:27):
have had the same or similar experience, and it's not
the universe picking on me making me have this citing
so that now I'm never the same person again. There's
people that they But anyway, guys, I hope you like
this interview with Stan It's wonderful. I've spoken to various
times in the past. I'm hoping to come back, and
I'm gonna have a link to his website on the

(01:55:48):
credits to the show. He has the books. I'm sure
he's got a great collection of stories in those books.
And again, subscribe to my newsletter on substack, or you
can go to Pepelister dot com. Mimi goes chronicles dot com.
I have links to everything everything they'll forget. I have
a hypnosis channel and a website hypnosis dash diy dot com.

(01:56:14):
Recordings there if you want to relax. Also, you know
videos that you can find and YouTube channel same thing.
God knows. Let me tell you something I've noticed people.
I mean it, don't get me wrong, people always looking
for something to be able to sleep better. Just but yeah,
there's been en up ticking people like, ay, I need

(01:56:35):
something to relax me. You know, can you give me
some type of like short term like meditation s last
hypnosis recording or something that I can hear is just
so that I can drift off to sleep, you know.
And I don't know. You could be stressors just every
day stressors. I think sometimes you know, between computer use
and phone use, we overexcite our brains. How's that? And

(01:56:58):
sometimes people have a hard time shutting down and we're multitasking.
You know, we're always because we're always on the man.
Anybody can call us at any time for anything, and
we're always. In other words, we don't know when to
shut it off or we can't even shut it off
that multitasking. Well, tomorrow I want to do this, and
I'm want to do that, and well today it ran
short and I couldn't and tomorrow got to drop off.

(01:57:19):
You know, there's a point that I know because I've
lived long enough to know what it was to be
pre computed, pre selling their phone, what life was like,
all right, And the worst that it was was when
day timers or day planners were a big deal. I

(01:57:40):
used to carry mine around, but that was different. It
was on paper, so you would keep track of what
you were doing and where you were supposed to go.
But they didn't. How's this you didn't I don't know
if there's some type of well no, I'm pretty sure
there's got to be some type of eye excitement. You know,
what you see through your brain do. Your eye goes
into your and just doesn't shut off. It doesn't like,

(01:58:03):
you know, like a saw, and you can't turn it off.
Getting back to my original thing, Yeah, there's a lot
of people that look at that hypnosis stuff. So anyway, guys,
I have a lot of interesting guests coming on.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
You can find all my stuff on different podcasts platforms.
The podcast version of all these shows and again come back.
I've got great guests, returning guests, and brand new ones
coming on the show. So until next time, take care,
You're all wonderful.

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