Cryptids: Monsters or Myths | Interview with Linda Eastburn | Podcast - Stories of the Supernatural

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh hell's everybody doing good? Everything is good here? Yes,
what can I say? Preparing for the heat, but that's
always if you live in Florida. That comes with the territory.
Besides that, as a matter of fact, besides getting the chicks,

(01:40):
I went, I went and I got some vegetables. Tell's this,
I gave up on trying to grow a vegetable garden
from seeds. It's like that's not gonna work. No, So anyway,
I went and I got a seedlings like tomatoes, because
I've got the raised flower beds, I've got like a
gazebo area, and I've got my potatoes. My potatoes are

(02:01):
coming up, so as you can tell, I have my
green thumb is non existent kind of. But anyway, I said,
this time this year, I'm going to start this off
with some plants like grown, and we did. We hit
up and we've got a bunch of well different types
of tomatoes. We're going to make it easy. I think

(02:22):
some Zuchinian squash that's what we got. But their plants
because you know what. You see some of these YouTube
videos with people that you know, they get the seed
and they wet the seed and they put it on
a nap and or whatever whatever the method is. They think, oh,
I can do that, sure, and yeah, you might get
it to sprout, especially if you put but at least

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for me, I know there's people out there that are
great with this. For me, no, you know, I I
I could be the plant killer easily, easily. So I said, okay,
let me give these I need something that's a little
bit more advanced. And by the way, I was very
lucky because when we went to the art in the
center of a name that shaw remain unnamed, a store
that remained unnamed, they had a bunch of tomato plants

(03:05):
that you could tell that have been in there for
a while, so they're really grown. As a matter of fact,
they're probably their roots are, you know, So they're nice
and big like they they're ready to be planted. So
it's like, okay, you guys are far advanced that you're
not gonna die of me, I hope. So yeah, that's
the that was my this this week. This week, that

(03:26):
was the thing that would say I'm going to try
it one more time. It can't get any simpler than
potatoes and tomatoes. So we'll see, you know. And everybody
asked me, how are the dozen chicks that I got.
They're doing great, they're doing great, and yeah, so far,
I haven't lost one. They're all feathering out. It's nice

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and hot here for which for anybody that's got poultry,
when you have small chicks like that that they're very
sensitive to cold weather, especially at night, you know that's important.
So yeah, so far, so good. And the again, I'll
repeat it because even though I have eggs, beause, like
I said, my remaining hens they're aging out. And hens

(04:10):
will lay eggs all the way through their life. It's
just that as they get older, it's few and far between.
Bottom line, all my hens they're aging out. Most of
them are hitting four or five, six years old, and
I'm not getting the quantity of eggs. That's why I
got the new chicks. But bottom line, though I look
at egg prices, how's that That's my point. That's what
I'm getting to. And I don't know other leasts they say, hey,
the egg prices have dropped, not where I'm at very significantly.

(04:35):
It's like, Wow, who would think an egg would be
a luxury item? Kind of you know, I'm a little
bit exaggerating, but that's the way I feel.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Like.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
If you're into baking, man, you got to put that
on the back burner. So what can I say? But
such as life, I'm sure they'll come down. But in
the meantime, Marlene's gonna guarantee it because I've got twelve
twelve little pullets all right that in about four months
are going to be giving me plug of eggs. So anyway,
let's get onto the good part. And the good part

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is who is the guest today on Stories of the Supernatural?
This is her first time here. Her name is Linda
Eastbourne and she's the author of Threshold to Encounters. She's
a seasoned investigator in the realms of UFOs, cryptids, and
the paranormal. She shares her fascinating journey into the world
of the unexplained, beginning with her introduction to a UFO
research group in the early nineties. My type of person

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as a hypnotist, my type of person. Linda found herself
drawn into the UFO community, conducting regressions for those who
believe they had been abducted. Her experiences have led her
to explore the connections between UFOs, bigfoot, and ghostly encounters,
culminating in her book that delves into these mysterious phenomena.
Linda recounts her most extraordinary encounters, from witnessing UFOs associated

(05:51):
with cattle mutilations to the eery presence of energy in
her home. Her investigations have taken her across the country,
interviewing countless individual and uncovering the hidden truths behind this phenomenon.
Help me welcome her. How are you doing today.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Linda, I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having
me appreciate that her.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's my pleasure. I was like, I could tell, yeah,
she's she likes what I like, you know, one of
those things. And you know what. The reason why I
say that is sometimes people like they don't see the
overlap between euphology or paranormal or cryptids, like everybody stays
in Atlanta. I personally think that there's a big overlap

(06:30):
between these fields.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Absolutely. That's what led me to write the book. Actually,
because I wasn't familiar with cryptids, I wasn't familiar with bigfoot.
When I started doing a lot of interviews with people
who had had those experiences, and given my background with
the UFO for research, I started seeing a lot of similarities.
And then that just took me even further into the paranormal.

(06:53):
And it's like it's I don't think we can really
separate it very far right, right, I.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Tell you know. And I'm sure you've heard of Skinwalker Ranch.
It's like very well known. But you know that they
wrote George Knapp and I believe the Colm Keller that
they wrote this book. This the book has been out
for a while. How even though you know, the skin
Walker Ranch was a UFO thing, that many of the
personnel there started experiencing paranormal events at their homes, which

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were hundreds of miles away. They couldn't figure out like, huh,
these are even personally. I believe that, you know, weren't
any of the investigators there were maybe security and a
bunch of them. Things started going on with them when
they went back home.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, that's true. And you know movie sets have been
the same way. A lot of really horror level movie sets.
After the films were over, they would go home and
a lot of the actors were experiencing just really some
strange phenomena in their homes.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Like what I mean it sounds like you.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Remember the names of the movies. I would tell you,
but I can't remember exactly why it was.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Were they UFO or were they horror movies?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And they were horror movies. They were like Emityville horror.
They were like ghosts.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know, the Exorcist, which of course everybody you know
thinks of, and that just because of the subject matter.
You know, I know that, for example, there's I know
that in the Exorcists, I believe you know, there's that
part where she's at the very beginning where they take
her to get X rayed at the hospital or to

(08:23):
the doctors, you know, when they're they still haven't figured
it out that she's possessed. Yeah, well, it turns out
that I think the tech that was there, he was
at the hospital. In other words, they actually he this
is what he would work at and they'd say, hey,
be in the movie. Turns out this guy was a
serial killer. I was like, are you kidding me? He

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had like five or six other men, and what he
was doing was he was up because this is New
York where where he was working out of the hospital
and I believe he was dismember them and throw them
like in the river, and they had they had no
clue who was doing this right, and later on, of
course it's developed after the movie and everything that who

(09:06):
that was. But it was like, okay, yeah, that's pretty
dark there.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, that's drawing in a lot of abnormal things into
a movie set.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I know. But it was like, and also I
heard and I don't know if you've heard of this,
then you know the original Poltergeist and I don't know
if this has come from. This is just a more
because you know, sometimes they put things out there and
you're like, oh that you know, when she falls into
the pool or what would be a pool and all
these skeletons are bobbing around that they weren't plastic, that

(09:36):
they were real skeletons. Wow, And I was like, hmmm,
and you know, strange from what I understand, people don't
realize that sometimes as far as skeletons and anatomy, those
real skeletons sometimes are less expensive than the ones that
are made from the rubberized plastic. Why would you spend

(09:58):
money on a reel? Isn't that go to costume?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
More?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
No, you'd be surprised it doesn't. But yeah, stuff like
that that you think is how much of this is
urban myth versus real And you know, like you said
the Admitville horror, you know that the people that have
lived there afterwards, they've never they've said, hey, no, we've known,
We've never had a problem here, nothing's ever happened. But
doesn't don't you ever wonder either being truthful or they're

(10:22):
just like, hey, I don't want to ruin my real
estate investment, I live here.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well it could be, yeah, it could be that, or
it could be because I've just I've noticed that oftentimes
the paranormal kind of follows the people more than it
follows a location so much. But you know, like skipping
on the ranch obviously has a vortex there or something,
or you know, portal or something's going on there. But
as the people get invested in that, you know, it

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kind of goes with them. But I think a lot
of it has to do with our own sense of
our own consciousness, you know, the way that we interact
with the phenomena. I personally haven't had any experiences that
have been very frightened to me. I had one ghostly
type of experience. But it was more of a feeling
than anything else. But I have researched the subject so much,
and the people that tend to experience this tend to

(11:10):
tend to experience it over and over again, no matter
where they are.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, like, it's not that place, it's you.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
It may be. Yeah, it's kind of what I've concluded,
at least for the time being.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think, Yeah, I do believe that there's people. Sometimes
you think is it you? Are you a budding or
repressed medium, psychic medium, and maybe these ghosts are following
you around because they realized maybe what you're in denial
about kind of deal it may be.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Sometimes it may just be your own psyche. You know
that you're creating some of these really bizarre things. I mean,
I teach a class. Well, I've just written another book
called Inspire Your Way to Power and Success. But it's
about manifesting things. And you know, oftentimes I think, you know,
when we get fixated on a subject, and I can
see if you were in a movie, like we were
talking about the cast and crew, could you get really

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fixated on some of the bizarreness in the movie. And
as you get fixated on that your consciousness kind of
lashes onto it, and then you kind of play that
out in your own mind and your own psyche, and
it can maybe conjure up some things that you don't
want to deal with.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Like if you really start really wigging, you know, like
really start thinking about it a lot, I imagine like
you manifest it.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
God, you can, I think, really manifest what you know,
what you think about? Sometimes?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Sure, I'm sure that there's stuff that if you really
like I think that sometimes. You know, when you know people,
some people are very obsessive about their thinking, and I
think that has a lot to do. You know, when
people talk about curses, I think part of it is
when you get people that are obsessive and that's all
they think about. In other words, they conjure it, but

(12:44):
not so much if you want to think of a
magical conjuring as in their force of thought, they're so
like they don't let it go that they actually bring
about whatever it is that they're obsessing about, and sometimes
to their own detriment by this way.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
It is sometimes yeah, because you know, vibration meets vibration
if you get into that kind of weird feared mode,
you know, like we all do when we watch a
horse show, and you king onto that fear mode, then
you're going to kind of attract maybe some fearful sort
of paranormal experiences coming to you, it seems right now
in the UFO, in the UFO field, you know that

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they've kind of tested that a lot a lot of
the research that I've done at least, you know, when
people go out and they have a group and they
just they meditate, and when they do that, because they're
all kind of on one page and their mind is
very calm, but they're you know, they're wanting to see
craft in the sky. And more often when they meditate
and do that, there's a craft appears. And then when

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they are not meditating, just out there looking on the sky, it.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Makes you wonder like, or are we're putting out something that, yeah,
it's a.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Love and it interacts with us, or you know, somehow
your consciousness is able to so how create form, you know,
out of out of that maybe another dimensional area or
something like that. I know I did a research group once,
well a small group, and they didn't know what we

(14:13):
were doing, but I really believe that we could create
something like that in the sky. This wasn't the same
as the meditation group, but I had them look at
an object that was just a black and white picture
and image. They were to just look at that like
ten minutes a day, just you know, dwelling. So it
was firm in their mind, you know. But I knew
my intention was to create to go out look at

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the sky and to create that in the sky as
a craft in the sky. So they looked at this
image for like twenty one days, and we got together
looked at it again. Beyond they didn't have any idea
what I was doing. We went out looked at the
sky and I stood there with a camera and shot
about one hundred shots and without even painting any attention

(14:56):
whatsoever of what was there. I just shot the camera,
you know, about one hundred times, and after the fact,
there it was. There was It was if you didn't
know what you were looking for, you might not have
seen it. But there was a craft in the sky.
It kind of blended in with the with the clouds, granted,
but you know, it was there and it was in
every shot, so it was It was really an interesting experiment.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Have you ever had people and I don't know that
they kind of go in there hoping to see whatever
it is, the CRYPTI, the spaceship, you know, the UFO, whatever,
and they're all gun hole until the moment it actually happens,
and then they wig out so badly.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I haven't had anyone do there, but I can understand
they might, especially if it was an alien or even
Bigfoot possibly, But but I can see, I can see
that happening. I've known. I've worked an awful lot with
people with the UFO and aliens, and you know, sometimes
they'll be sitting in their living room and suddenly they
look at and there's an alien just sitting there in
a chair, and it's like, what are you doing here? Yeah,

(15:57):
and then it just you know, it's gone. It's there
and then it's gone. And same thing with craft. You know,
they'll look up and there's the mothership and then you know,
five minutes later it's gone.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
So let me ask you, because I know you mentioned
that you do hypnosis, do for what do you go
hypnotize them for, like repressed memories of abductions?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, when back in the nineties, when I first started
doing hypnosis, of course, I started with just like routine things,
you know, concentration, working with students, losing weight, quitting smoking,
you know, just whatever. But then I kind of specialized
in regression work, and in that era it was really
popular to do past life regressions, so I did a
lot of those. That kind of got me involved with

(16:36):
the UFO community, and so I did a lot of
regressions with people it felt like that had some kind
of contact with aliens or contact with UFOs. I have
not done that with anyone that has had experience with
like bigfoot or ghost activity. I have not taken anyone
under hypnosis for that. What I can say though, is
during my many years of working in the hypnotic field,

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that mind is very much interconnected. You know, we would
do groups of people and you know, it was it's
like they would be seeing the same thing at the
same time. They would be experiencing a lot of the
same sort of things. So so it does seem like
there was a lot of interconnection with consciousness when it
comes to to hypnosis and going into those inner levels,

(17:20):
which I think is a lot of what happened when
the groups would meditate and see a craft in the sky,
you know, they would kind of create a single mind
and then they were all able to see it, you know,
which may have been in another dimension.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Regress somebody, you know that they suspected kind of thought
I was abducted, but they were really sure.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
That many times, many times I've done that.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
How did they when they actually had that moment, I
guess that they're uncovering whatever the experience was. How did
they handle it?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Well, everyone handles it a little bit differently, but if
it was a frightening experience for them at that time,
sometimes they were just almost hysterical. And remember, for the
first one I did, I wasn't really prepared for the
type of emotion that they were experiencing as they as
they had that encounter, it was very frightening to them.
And they they did feel like they'd had a lot

(18:14):
of experiences, but they didn't have any conscious memory, just vague,
you know, kind of little bits and pieces. But yeah,
they were very hysterical. And you know, to calm someone
down when they're in that state, you know, you can
do it under hypnosis. But it was frightening to me personally.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So when I got that, because let me ask you,
because is it that they're looking at it or do
they feel are they re experiencing the abduction.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Most of the time when they wake up and they
see an alien in their room or three aliens in
the room, and they don't know what to do. There
may be semi paralyzed, but they're looking at these creatures
in their bedroom. They shouldn't be in the bedroom, so
all logic just goes out the door, and they are
are intensely brightened. And then oftentimes the next thing, they're

(19:04):
in a craft and and they're doing an exam of
some sort. Sometimes there's pain, sometimes not. Occasionally you'll have
someone that you know that they're calm enough to interact
with them and have some kind of communication. It's all telepathic,
of course, and and sometimes they're teaching them things. They're
they're instructing them on on something. But every person has

(19:27):
a different experience.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
What do they usually in your experience, what do they
mostly come across, like the grays, that type of alien.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Looking or yeah, mostly mostly it's the little grays, you know,
the Whitley Streeber book Communion that that character, that's that's
how But but honestly, it's it's all over the place,
you know, and and it seems like whatever this phenomena
is it can take almost any form. It's it's more

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your expectation of what it should look like. They'll kind
of appear that way. So I think when a lot
of the reptilians started coming into play, and the ones
that kind of looked like a praying mantis and all
of that, I think those were kind of yeah, yeah,
a lot of people have seen those. But you know,
I've also had some really really strange experiences with the reptilians.

(20:19):
I remember in one week, and this is when I
first started, a lot of synchronicities have happened to me,
but in one week, there were three stories of reptilians
coming that came in from three separate people that did
not know one another. And I wasn't talking about reptilians,
of course, but it was all people in the medical field.
There was a woman who who lived next door to

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a doctor. He lived behind them, actually, and her daughter
kept telling him. He's like, mom, Mom, this guy, I've
seen him outside and it's like he turns into a reptilian.
And then a woman visited and then you're exactly. But
she was a researcher too, so she she didn't think
it was too crazy. So then a when we came
to visit her and she said, you know, she had

(21:04):
this really weird experience and she wanted to tell her
about it. That she was at her doctor's office and
her doctor turned into this reptilian in front of her,
and come to find dad was the same guy that
lived behind her. So that was an unusual story. And
then two separate nurses told me a similar story. They
were in a room with a patient and both of
them saw the patient turn into this strange reptilian just

(21:26):
before their eyes, and it really took them back. They
had to go into the hall at time to catch
their breath.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
But but but all of those stories came in within
about a week span of time, and it's like, you know,
kind of odd because it was all dealing with the
medical field.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know, yes, isn't that And you always think, nah,
not in the medical field. That's too scientific. Who's going
to see a reptilian?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah. I don't think any of them expected to see
a reptilian, that's.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
For sure, you know what. I think that's the most
interesting stories. These are people that are going about their lives.
In this case, they're working or whatever. They're not looking
for an encounter with a with an extra terrestrial, much
less a reptilian, and then boom that happens. So they're like,
I think those stories are fantastic because it's like, I'm

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not you know, in other words, I wasn't primed to
see something.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Right exactly, and you know, out of context. You know,
they're doing their job, they're working diligently, you know, going
about their life, and then suddenly but also the woman
who is going to a doctor and she's just there
having any exam and suddenly he turns into this reptiling.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
She kept him on the doctor.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I couldn't. I couldn't. I'd be like, sorry, you know,
when you get that thing. Once I see that, I
can never forget.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
It, doc.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
But yeah, exactly, whatever, I moved across town, but you're
not gonna be my doctor anymore, right, Yeah. It's uh.
And and it makes you wonder do they how do
they have that ability to like, I don't want to say,
camouflag or is it that they do something to our
brain so that.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
We only see, you know, I don't know. I don't
know if they're you know, an inner part of our
own psyche, or if it's something separate on another dimension
or you know, if this is some kind of a
spiritual part of just existence of life or continuum of that.
The other day, I was doing some intuitive work because
I do a lot of future vision of things. Are

(23:25):
just looking at things, and you know, I saw them
more like just built into the fabric of consciousness periods.
So you know, like we have we're all connected into
consciousness because we're all aware, and it's like they're just there,
you know, It's it's like just and they kind of
take on whatever form we anticipate they're going to take on,
which may explain a lot of why there are similar

(23:46):
experiences between the Bigfoot, the ghost, and the and the aliens.
It's because it may just be coming out of the
same phenomena. I don't know for sure, right right we
usually we separate the.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Say, like you know, as far as people that like
look at that, you know, if there's an uptick of
u of let's say, either UFO sidings, then there's an
uptick of Bigfoot or cryptid sidings, and they're thinking, is
it coincidental or why is it that all of a
sudden people there's a spike and they kind of dove

(24:19):
tell each other, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Which comes back to consciousness. You know. I remember in
the early nineties there was just a huge flap of
UFO activity in our area, and there were also a
lot of abduction books coming out, a lot of hypnosis
being used on it was a very popular subject. And
at that time, you know, people were just coming out
of the woodwork with all of these, you know, experiences

(24:42):
they'd had. Now, I don't think those were hoaxes or
that they were just making them up. I think it
was just genuinely what they were remembering, you know, from
their experience. It was just these things were prompting it.
And now we see Bigfoot the same way, you know,
the popular shows on TV and YouTube and such talking
abou out Bigfoot, and then suddenly, oh yeah, I remember

(25:03):
I had an experience with Bigfoot, and they all started
to start coming forward. They suddenly start remembering that they
had that encounter of some sort, and then other people
do too. But I think it's kind of more of
the way our psyche works. I think, you know, when
we when it is is something that we have genuinely experienced,
for sure, but when it becomes more of a collective

(25:26):
type of consciousness, among people, you know, it begins to
have a life of its own and it begins to
come out. And I think that's sort of what's happening
with Bigfoot right now.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I think a lot of people also, I think people
don't realize because you know, we always think of the
et encounters as they do something to make people forget.
But I think people that if it was a traumatic experience,
people sometimes will on their own just submerge the memory.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Often they just can't deal with it. It's like and
then yeah, they'll have like you said that, maybe I'll
have a dream or something, but the full fledged memory
or as a reality, they're like their mind goes no, Yeah,
if you start thinking about this, you might just go
start pulling your hair out, you know, and get you know,
with straight jacket will come for you. And I think

(26:13):
a lot of people sometimes they just on their own.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Now people are abused as children, I mean, they repress
a lot of that because it's just too dramatic to
live within a day to day basis. And that's you know,
oftentimes when people see a Bigfoot, people see an alien
now craft in the sky that's pretty distant. But oftentimes
seeing that craft in the sky. They have you know,
lost lost time. You know, they have a memory of something,

(26:37):
maybe bright light, lots and lots of children or lots
of people. When I started doing hypnosis, I wasn't into
the UFO field at all, but I would have people
come to me for something real, mundane, you know, like
memory loss or something like that, and they would just
suddenly start talking about their childhood seeing these enormous lights

(26:58):
coming in their bedroom windows and they get up and
look outside and there be a craft in their yard.
And this is a very common thing for children, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
To you know, you hear about people that even think
that it's a familial deal.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
With Yes, definitely, Yeah, it does seem to run in families,
for sure. And more than there again, it's it seems
to be in you know, something genetic or something that
runs runs along those lines much more with the people
than it does with a location or a happenstance, you know,
with a craft or something like that. And you know,

(27:34):
and then again I teach a lot of intuitive things,
so you know, I really think that it's a matter
of you know, some people just have the capacity to
see these things and other people do not. And I've
never seen a craft in my life. I saw an
orange light one time. But I have taken people all
over to see craft and to do research trips and such.

(27:55):
And you know, other people may be seeing something, but
I don't see things as I just don't see.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Them, right.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
And I know and this is the thing you pointed out,
like when you see U have phone in the lightnings guy,
you if you really want it, you can talk yourself
out of and say it was just a plane, or
it was just a helicopter, it was just whatever, right.
I think contrary to when people have an actual visual
of an extraterrestrial or a cryptid of some type or Bigfoot,
all right, that you're like, uh, I think part of

(28:23):
it is this is of course your mind processing. It
is like you're a saturation point. If this is possible,
then what else is there? I thought doesn't exist? It
does exist.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah. It stretches, It stretches your reality just such a
far degree. Sometimes it can be very very frightening for
some people. Other people don't seem to have that much
of a problem with it, but some people it just
shatters their sense of reality of what they think reality
should be.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yes, yes, because you know there's so many things that
people think, oh, you know, that's mythical, or you know
that's a legend, or that's the old old wives tale.
You know. But once you see something, then even if
you don't want to admit it, part of you starts
wondering what else is out there that I'm thinking absolutely
doesn't exist for sure?

Speaker 3 (29:11):
And oftentimes they question themselves, you know, their own judgment
of what they saw. Yes, it's really easy for them
to talk themselves out of out of what they saw
and pretend like it was something different other just their imagination.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, And I think that even though there's a bunch
of shows, or we live in such a technological world
and you know, and our routines and everything, you kind
of think, now, you know, it's a great show, it's
a great reality show.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Mhm.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And I guess how's this. Maybe let's say, let's go
back just only one hundred years ago, people I think
were more open to the and I'm not talking here
about superstition, but they were actually more open to believing
it like something like that could exist even if they
never saw it. They were like, hey, the world that
something like that can't exist, Whereas now we're like more

(30:03):
like very square, like, you know, you know this is
this is it? If all that exists? God? You know,
flat on Earth is a good mat at me? Does
that mean the earth is flat? You know? That kind
of deals open the.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Way, yeah to like, yeah, I think that. You know,
if you have a really open mind about possibilities of reality,
even you know, then it kind of sets you up
for being able to handle things better. You don't have
that shattered, shattered kind of reality. I love the mystery

(30:41):
of it all. That's probably why I researched it for
so long. But the mystery of it all is, you know, like, well,
what is it exactly we are dealing with? You know,
what where does this come from? And how does how
does that interface with with us? What does it mean
for us? You know, I haven't got an answer for
that for sure, but it's always fun to explore.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, let me ask you. Have you had that experience
where you've been doing any type of investigation which paranormal
and something's followed you back home.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
No, I haven't had that.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
I did have something in my home once, though, which
was kind of an interesting experience. I was pretty new.
I'm doing a lot of the hypnosis and definitely knew
with the intuitive work that I was doing. But I
was sitting on the floor and there was a kind
of an L shaped sofa, you know, I love to
seat side beside on a coffee table. And there were
three there were four of us in the room, and

(31:32):
I was sitting on the floor with my back to
one of the corners in the room. It's a rather
small little living room, and a really good friend of
mine was across the wave and setting exactly opposite of
me and another friend of hers, and then my husband
was on the sofa also not far from me as well,
and I started feeling a little uncomfortable, you know, like

(31:53):
I couldn't have put my finger on what it was
I was feeling, but it was just this uneasiness behind me,
kind of in that corner. And I finally said, I'm
just going to get up and said on the sofa,
I just don't feel real comfortable, you know, just something
back there. And my friend, who she was a good
visual person. I'm not real visual with things, but she

(32:13):
was she could see energy and she can see energy movement.
She didn't know what it was, but she said she
could see movement back there of energy just moving, and
so we kind of left it at that. And then
a couple of days later, I had a hypnosis session
with someone that I did not know, and he came
to the house. And usually I would start the session
in that very living room with a person, kind of

(32:34):
do an interview, get an idea of what they were
trying to accomplish with the hypnosis session. Then i'd go
back to an office and we'd do that the hypnosis. Well,
he walked in the front door, and he didn't say
a lot, but suddenly he just put his hands across
his chest and walked into my family room, looked outside
a sliding glass door back there. He just looked outside
and he was kind of acting funny and puzzled. He

(32:57):
walked back to that living room and I motioned for
him to sit down, but he didn't want to sit down.
He just stood there, and then suddenly he said, I
think my dad used to live in this house. And
he said and he died right there in that very
corner where I'd been feeling that energy. Now I found
that really therein very suchronistic that you know that within

(33:20):
a few days after me feeling the energy, my girlfriend
seeing that energy then we have confirmation someone died right
there in that very spot, So there's obviously some kind
of an energy residue that was still there still, you know,
actively moving.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, you know, like they see it down that he
was going to come in for a.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Session, very likely, and that sort of thing. What happened
to me quite a bit. When I say I haven't
seen much, I have seen quite a bit. But it
leaves immediately, you know, after whatever its intent is, it's gone.
You know, it doesn't stay in my home. But I
remember another time a woman was coming for a regression
because she had had some really unusual what she felt

(34:00):
like was kind of like alien type of encounters throughout
her entire life. And another researcher brought her to my
house and they were going to come that afternoon, maybe
about three o'clock. But that morning I was in my
kitchen and there was kind of a cutout over the
sink in the kitchen where I could see through to
the living room area. It's a different house though, and
all morning I would be looking over there and I

(34:22):
would think I saw like a tall, dark, you know, figure,
like a male figure, a rather large, tall, dark figure,
And there wouldn't be anything there, and I kept thinking
it was my husband standing over there, and well, you know,
why would my husband be standing in the corner of
the living room, you know, in the middle of the day.
But I saw it several times. It didn't scare me.

(34:42):
It was nothing frightening about. It was just something I
thought I saw, but I didn't actually see anything. And
then she arrives, and the very first story she told
me was as a child, she would often wake up
and see this very tall, dark, you know, very dominant
figure standing over her bed. And it was like, in

(35:03):
my mind, I was thinking, well, I think he may
have shown up here today described describe that thing I
was seeing in the corner of the room. But there again,
it showed up. I saw it in advance, you know,
she she mentioned at the minute she got there. But
you know the bottom line is when she left, you know,
there was never any other you know, point where I

(35:23):
saw it. But also I tend to see the future
very easily, so these were also at times precognitive on
my part, you know, whether it be feeling that goes
behind me. Because this guy was going to come and
he was going to talk about his dad, and he
was going to you know he could acknowledge his dad
did die there she was going to come that day
at three o'clock. I was already seeing that dark figure,
you know, in my house that she was going to

(35:44):
talk about. So, because I do see the future so easily,
oftentimes I think some of this may be, you know,
just me knowing what I'm going to be dealing with
in the in a few hours, a few days.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
He could go way. I'm not saying your cognitive abilities.
But at the same time, I do think that in this,
especially when we're talking here spiritual that they see they
in other words, they know that this person's going to
be there, and they just for whatever reason, they go
check it out.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I think it's you know, there's obviously time is
not as we think it is, so you know, those
things can overlap and intertwine, you know, the knowledge from
that side to this side, and all of these things
that kind of come together in these perfect synchronistic kind
of patterns that that we have, Which is kind of
my specialty is studying that sort of the way that

(36:36):
the way that we interact with that world.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Have you ever hypnotized anybody have found that they have
something like that, like an attachment or something that in
other words, you're hypnotizing this person who came for whatever,
and all of a sudden there's something else going on there,
and you're like.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
What, No, I really haven't had that experience. Now. I
did a lot of past life regression work, and oftentimes
what I would find is, you know, there would be
some pattern from a past life that was definitely intertwined
in this life, and somehow getting in touch with that life,
they could resolve that issue so they could come out
the other end of that, you know, with some kind

(37:17):
of like something I'd been really seriously dealing with. They
could somehow organize that in their mind in a way
by getting in touch with that past life that explained
it to them.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
And that it clicked the head in other words, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah. I would often have people saying, you know,
you saved my life and I'm thinking, I don't know
what I did, and it was just a mundane past
life regression to me, but for them it was something
that answered, you know, just bookoos are questions and help
them cope with this life.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Because I think most people don't realize the majority of us,
the majority of people lived. You know, we're going down
the reincarnation anonymous lives. You know, I'm saying not everybody
was a king queen, you know what. Ever, and the artists,
you know, most people lived whatever life they lived and
that was it. They faded nine times out of ten

(38:10):
unless yeah, it depends. Also, nobody really remembers or knows
that they existed.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
No, oftentimes they don't. Once I did a research, rather
long research project with people, but I did this for free,
but they had to consent to doing multiple, multiple past
life regressions, and we had to do at least ten.
And what I found was, if you had ten past

(38:37):
life regressions, you begin seeing a real strong pattern of
their within within the lives, you know, of kind of
developing the person even that they were today. So even
if it was a mundane life, it still has you know,
richness of the way that that thread runs through those
many lives, right in.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Other words, that you saw like, how's that the character
development kind of thing?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, And usually if they had an issue with something
this lifetime, then you begin to notice when they had
that same issue in other lives and when they didn't,
and it would you know, it was just really it
was a really strong indication that you know that we
developed through these many, many, many lives. It's not just
this one.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Did you have people come into thinking, oh, I know
I lived in Egypt whatever with the pharaohs, and they
would when you regress them, all of a sudden they'd
be like, you know, they were like, yeah, you're a
farmer or out in Arkansas and they're like, what did
you have that where they had expectations about who they
were and it turned out it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Sometimes, but I do a lot of I would also
do a lot of past like readings for people where
I would go into the lives and the more interesting
thing was that they would have this like vague memory
of past life, and then I would be confirming it
by explaining this, oh, detailed life that they had, and
it's like, oh wow, right down to the dress that

(40:04):
she remembered wearing on the balcony at someplace and some
guy coming coming down the road, those were memories that
she actually had and then I was able to see that.
But no, I don't think I've ever had one where
they thought they were grandiose and then ended up just ben.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
It was like, you know, what do you mean? Little
hera over a terra.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
No, I don't think I've ever regressed someone where they
were anyone really super well known like that, though most
of them they had some extraordinary lives, but they weren't
anyone that was well well known.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Right right Exactly. Sometimes people got I think, you know,
whether it's because how's this? Because either the location time period,
they romanticize it, you know, and they they think, wow,
I I could be there or something, and then the
next thing, you know, they're thinking, I think I like
that because and it's like, man, maybe they did or

(40:56):
maybe they didn't. Mm hmm exactly do you I mean
considering do you ask them what to just see? What
was would be the life that would help them the most?
Is that how you would ask them?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Like?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
And if it's un their objective? But yeah, usually we
just go into whatever life you know, that that that
they can get into basically, you know, and we just
travel through that and try not to lead them too much.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
So a lot of my questions are just really simplistic,
like Okay, what do you see now? If you look
to the right, what do you see? Is anyone else
they're with you? You know, just really simple questions. So
actually doing the regression itself can be quite mundane for
me because you know, I'm not there, I'm not seeing that,
you know, I'm just I'm just asking them very simple

(41:43):
questions and let kind of just guiding them through whatever
experience they're having, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
And it's something like that. It's for them, it's their thing.
Like like for you, you would think, well, okay, that's
a very normal life, but maybe something like you said,
that's going on present time or present day, for them,
it means has some significance.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, And oftentimes what they're actually able to verbalize or
do verbalize, you know, there's a whole scene of experience
that they're having in that hypnotic regression that they are
not verbalizing. So and you know, you can ask them
to verbalize it, but oftentimes it's just a lot of
silence because they're just having some experience. And then if

(42:26):
you ask them, you know, to again, you know, they
might give you a small bit bit of information, but oftentimes,
you know, it's not like in full vivid color like
they might be experiencing it, or action oriented the way
they're experiencing it either.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Do people tend to reincarnate in groups like I've heard that, you.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Know, I haven't had I don't know. I think I
tend to believe that, but I you know, I really
don't know for sure.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Okay, but I'm sure you've heard of that theory that
people switch places around, but that kind of it's the
same group more or less, you know.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, yeah, I have heard that, and you know, whether
it's true, And especially in family units, they'll often your
reincarn with their family unit or close by or you know,
I think a lot of the really strong parts of
reincarnation that validates the children that you know, when children
tend to have sudden deaths, they'll often reincarn very quickly,

(43:23):
and sometimes they will remember a living parent or family
close by wherever they rein wherever they are rebirthed, and
they'll they'll look for them or try to find them.
I mean, that's that's those are just really interesting stories.
I think, like this length of.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Time where it's like, okay, so that in other words,
that person that was part of their former life is
still there that they could go back.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
To, right. But that's usually when a when a life
was taken very quickly as a child, unintended maybe, you know,
and then they just come right back into into the life.
They didn't finish what they started maybe, you know, and
they tend to remember more also because they came back
so quickly. Right.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
That's what you always hear about children that very young
children will sometimes talk about what you know, past life,
but people misinterpreted as their parents misinterpreted as you know,
something else. Ye must you know, if the memory's fade,
how's that you know what it's gone?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
True? I think most Western you know, in our Western civilization,
most people don't give it a lot of credibility. So
a child could be saying something and they would just
dismiss it completely.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, So now that let me
ask you as far as uh as cryptids, you know,
you know, Bigfoot was even though there's always been a
bunch of cryptims, you know, Bigfoot was always the the
one that everybody, like you say, Bigfoot of Sasquatch. But
lately there's also been a lot of sightings of what
they call dogmen mm hm, which to me looked like

(44:50):
a werewolf, which, by the way, that really scares me.
A see, I'll tak a bigfoot, but that I would
like run.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, yeah, I've run into a lot of interviews with
dog Man.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'm going to ask you that what have they told
you people?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Oh my gosh, dog Man seems to be vicious. I
mean just really really vicious. The few that I've that
I have talked with sometimes it's just a brief, a
brief sighting, and it isn't so frightening, but they're huge.
I did this one interview with a guy that he
and three of his friends were in a warehouse and

(45:29):
it was an abandoned warehouse down by the train tracks,
and you know, the windows were out, and it was
like three or four stories high, and they saw a
pack of dogs run by their wild dogs in the neighborhood,
and so they ran by, and this was kind of
about a half an hour out of town. They'd walked
out there. They built up a big fire in the middle,
and you know, they were just kicking back, you know,

(45:50):
just relaxing and talking and whatever, and they hear these
dogs and they started yelping, and so they go to
the door of the warehouse and they look outside and
there's this big pile of I don't know what it was,
but it was something that came from whatever this factory
had been about. Was this huge big pile of something
and the dogs had run up over it. And then
suddenly they see these dogs, one at a time being

(46:13):
flung literally flung up in the air and back over
that big pile of stuff, and you know, not very
many things could do that, actually, And then they hear
they hear a couple more dogs whimpering over there, and
then they see this giant dog man come walking up
on the top of this pile, and they are absolutely terrified.

(46:36):
So they run as fast as they came up to
like the third floor, and even on the third floor,
they can look down. There's this you know, cut out
opening like in the middle of the building, and they
can look down, and this dog man starts coming inside
the building, and they are just terribly frightened, you know,
they were just terrified. And this dog comes over to
the fire and standing there by the fire for a while,

(46:57):
and one of the boys was just so frightened he
kept making noise and they kept telling him to be quiet,
but he kept making noise. And suddenly the dog man
looks up and sees them, you know, at the top.
Now they know the dog man is going to come
up those stairs and just you know, rip them apart,
and suddenly they're out of the blue, there's a train
that is coming and it blows a whistle. Now they've

(47:18):
been out there how many times that train never blows
its whistle there, ever, so this time the train blows
the whistle and suddenly dog Man just I mean, it
just goes away right in front of their eyes. It
just dissolves. But they're still scared. There's you know, the
adrenaline is flowing so much. Train passes, and they have
to decide what they're going to do because they're afraid
that it will reappear, you know. So they end up

(47:42):
waiting for a while. The boy that was so frightened
wasn't going to leave, and they said, hey, we're going
either you go with.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Noise.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
So they run down the steps, run as fast as
I can. It's the middle of the night. They finally
get home, all four of them safely, and they decide
not to even mention this unless all four of them
are together so they can back up one another's stories.
But they concluded they kind of talked to their their ministers,
their pastors of their churches. They talked to their family,

(48:13):
you know, they talked to a lot of people but
apparently this particular area and now this goes back to location.
You know, that area seemed to have had numerous sightings
of various cryptids in that one vicinity. And this minister
was telling, you know, they were all four boys were there.
They had the fire goings kind of hypnotic, you know,
a fire just peeking back, and maybe all four of

(48:36):
them kind of got in sync and they, you know,
which can happen under hypnosis, you can have you know,
multiple hypnotic experiences. They may have you know, flipped over
into that area where you can see things like that,
you know, and and like I said, you know, not
everyone can. Some people can. They may have all just
at the same time seen this where they could see

(48:57):
this this you know, this bigfoot or not bigfoot, but
rather of me. And it ended up being just a
really scary, scary time for them.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, I bet you had a meeting after when they
said we're not taking him anymore, making the noises like that.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I don't know if any of them went back out
there to tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Were all put it off the island, son, get out
of your head.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
The train, not for the train. They went, and there's
such there again. The synchronicity of the train coming along
right then and blowing the horn, you know, when it
never does, you know, and then the it brought either
it brought them out of the state where they could
see it, you know, that woke them all up or something,
because the dung man just disappeared in front of all

(49:37):
their eyes. You know, Wow, very strange.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
That's so interesting because I'm thinking, because I thought you
were going to say it ran you know, like the
whistle scared it.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, like it was like, okay, I think it woke
them up. I think to pull them back into a
real conscious, conscious dimension, you know, because if when we're
in our five senses and we're in this you know,
this is the world that we normally live in, are
a waking stage.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
I think it might have pulled them back into that state.
Whereas the fire and just the kicking back and they
were probably you know, winding down at the end of
the day, and you know, they were just in a
real kind of almost hypnotic state which allows them to
see more things like the women who would go out
and meditate, and then they could see the craft, you know,
right right.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, But let me tell you something that'll do it.
If you get here, you're like, man, we're trapped. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Yeah, And a lot of people see craft when you know,
when they're traveling, when they're driving cross country, and you know,
anytime you're in a car and the rhythm, you know,
the moving in the car, it kind of puts you
in a modely altered state too.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
So yeah, it was this gentleman I interviewed. He's passed
away since then, and he lived in Jim Smith. He
lived in Alabama and he is a It was the
Alabama Bigfoot Society. And he told me that it got
to the point where people would see things on the road.
Because this was not in the city. It was like

(51:01):
out in the country. They would call the police be
it's like, what else are you gonna do? Right, So
the police already knew and they would bring them over
to his place and because they're like, what do you
want us to do? Go arrest the bigfoot or whatever
it is that you saw. And he was telling us,
you know, he says, look, I can't say, but whatever
it was, they believed that they were genuinely scared something
saw something, whether whatever it was, that to them it

(51:25):
was a bigfoot. Times a couple of them and says, sir,
can we stay here until dawn breaks because we're afraid to,
you know, go back home way in the dark. But
what you're saying is these these are dark, dark roads
with just the headlights, and like you said, and maybe
they're going along. Is it something that's always there and
all of a sudden you have the ability to see it?

(51:46):
You know?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
It's those are the big, big questions that I don't
know that I can totally answer. It's just one of
the things I don't know that we're giving credibility to
that when we get in a certain state of mind,
we may be able to see things or hear things
or no is that we can't normally. You know, in
other states of mind, oftentimes someone may be out fishing
or hunting. They're up in a tree stand, you know, hunting.

(52:09):
You know, it's a relaxing moment. It's you know, it's
not a time of hustle bustle working or anything. You know,
when they run into this bigfoot, So I don't know,
and then how many of them see of just driving
down the road and there is a bigfoot walking along
the side of the road, you know, it's kind of
an odd thing. We always think that because we are
seeing that it has to be real, but you know,

(52:32):
we see things all the time, we're not sure. You know,
perception is an odd thing. And being a student of vibration,
you know, everything's really just energy and vibration, and our
brain decodes everything, whether it be the road or the
fence or the trees along the side of the road.
So our brain could also just decode the vibration of bigfoot,
whether it actually be present in the physical world or not.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
So right, And which goes back to why I was saying.
These people that aren't looking to have experience, they're not
big foot hunters. They're not looking to see you know,
that shot that's a big foot. You know, that's not
what they're going on about. So that when they see
because I think most people when they're not they try
to make it figure in their world.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Is that a what is that?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
A tree? A brand? What is that? You know, until
you kind of like get rid of all the rational
possibilities very quickly, of course, and you come up with
these conclusion and you know, that's when your heart rate
jumps and you're like, oh, but the I think that's
sometimes let me and I guess that's my question. Do

(53:38):
you really think bigfoot or cryptos? But let's go with
a bigfoot. Do you really think that they're just physical
animals period, physical animals, whether they're a lost type of
ape or something, or some type of mystical or supernatural
slant to them.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Well, they do have physical properties, obviously, because as they
reproduce their juvenile and youthful little ones all over the
place with them sometimes, so they do have that capacity.
You know, there's all kinds of evidence of you know,
physical evidence with hair and you know, footprints and things
like that. So there has to be some form of

(54:17):
somewhat of a physical element about these things. But on
the other hand, they have this ability to or a
lot of people see them appear disappear, you know. There
they can be can be orbs. There's which when I
talk about the Sierra sounds with Ron moorehead but you

(54:39):
know the sound, but they never did see the beans.
But lots of things happened up there. You know. One
time they saw this enormous ufo right overhead, this blue,
really dark blue ufo overhead. They also had a time
when they were in the little shelter the little hut
that they slept in, and all night long they were
hearing you know, banging and sounds of their camp just

(55:01):
being torn apart out there, and just huge amounts of
the noise.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Like who's going to go outside to see what that is?

Speaker 3 (55:06):
The next day they go out and there's nothing, has
been moved, nothing, And that is a repeated story that
there will be this this sound and then there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
That is so typical also ghost stories that people yes,
I heard stuff like breaking, or I thought my china
cabina had come down, or this loud noise was stuff
being trashed or furniture being moved. There's nothing, nothing's.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Happening, absolutely, So you see, that's another one of those
correlations between ghost activity or what we have what we
have classified is ghost activity and the activity around bigfoot
sightings or bigfoot research. One lady told me the other
day that that she was camping doing bigfoot research. And
she was camping and she they they had these chimes

(55:58):
out there for some reason, but the chimes start making
a little some noise, and they started making a huge
amount of noise, and she looked outside of the tent
and there was no She didn't see any big foot around.
She didn't see anything around. But the chimes were like
going up and down and up and down like at
a ninety degree angle, kind of awake that. But they
were not touching, you know, the little things that hang

(56:21):
down were not touching. That thing in the middle wasn't touching.
It was staying exactly the way it normally is. But
it was just going up and down like this. But
it was making this enormous amount of sound and nothing
was around. She could see nothing moving it, but it
was moving.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
And then are not touching anyway, No, they were not
toch it was it was It was just like it.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Would be if you were hanging down without wind moving
and it was just going up and down this. Now
this is the weird thing. Within a week, I also
talked to this other woman that said almost an identical story.
Now it wasn't bigfoot. She wasn't doing bigfoot research. She's
done UFO research for years. She had some chimes on
her back deck and it was kind of between two doors,

(57:02):
and you know, there was no wind, there was nothing,
and the chimes were not moving, but she could hear
chimes just going nuts, you know. But these chimes were
not moving at all, same thing, you know as well.
The other lady was going up and down, but these
were you know, just there was no there was no movement.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Just this is this great wind coming from here in
the chimes are like.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I know, so something is going on. But that's remarkably
like ghost stories. So that's a bigfoot story. And the
other lady was, you know, she doesn't do any bigfoot research.
She just does you know, UFO research, but this happened
to her as well. Lots of orbs, lots of lights,
lots of shooting, you know, energy lights, you know, just
some There's something in the thread between all three of

(57:47):
these encounters that people have that seems to very much
be related.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Have you done any investigations when it comes to cattle mutilations?

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, I had my One of my experiences anyway, probably
the most phenomenal one is when I first started researching UFOs.
I was out in the country and we were visiting
some people and no other houses around, just their home.
And I was sitting in a vehicle looking out over
there was a gravel road and then a pasture a

(58:19):
field just above beyond that, and then a tree line
above that, and I was waiting for my husband. He
had gone into the garage to talk with the other
gentleman that was there, and I was there maybe ten minutes,
and there was anything to do. It was dark out,
it was about ten ten thirty at night, and I'm
just looking across the pasture and there was an orange
light over there, just above that tree line. It was

(58:39):
maybe maybe a half a mile to a mile over there,
maybe a half a mile, and that probably wasn't a
full mile, and I'm thinking, well, maybe that's an airplane
or something that will go on over, but it didn't.
It just stayed above the tree line, and you know,
I just didn't have anything else to do, so I
just watched it for a while, and then suddenly it
just slowly goes down behind the trees. I didn't think

(59:00):
a lot about it, but you know, I didn't make
note that it did happen. And the next day I
went to some people's house. First it was a Sunday.
We went there for a Sunday dinner. And they also
lived in that neighborhood, and they knew the people who
lived who owned that farm right there, but they also

(59:20):
knew people that owned farms on each side of that
and not mentioning this whatsoever. They just brought up out
of the blue that they had a call that morning
from one of the farmers that there had been three
cowls mutilated, one in that field where I was seeing
the orange light, one to the farm to left, and
one to the farm to the right. Now, if I

(59:42):
had not known these people, I would never have heard
about that because they just reported it to the sheriff's office.
Everything was hushash quiet, you know, no actual research about it.
The research group that I worked with, they had a
lot of animal mutilations during that flap in the early
nineties when I got involved in the UFO community, there

(01:00:03):
were so many cattle mutilations in the in the area
that they were just they were kept busy. It was
just there were a lot of those going over and
there were a lot of cattle mutilations, a lot of
just a lot of sightings. And that was when people
started waking up and started remembering encounters that they'd had as.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Well, which makes you ask, you know, like why why cattle?
Why mule? I mean, you know, the purpose of because
we I think that's what stumps everybody. The mutilations. Usually
the least is our parts supposedly of the cattle. If
you look at it from the the value of the
meat or whatever, the carcass and it's like, okay, how

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many times are you going to mutilate a cowl or
whatever to study what?

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
So? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Always you always think why why why so many or what?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Yeah? And I don't have any answer to why. Obviously
they're wanting these parts for something, you know on the offense,
absolutely ungue and various other parts, and it's obviously a laser,
no blood involved whatsoever. Other animals will not go near
the carca.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Is to me so interesting that the loss of blood
where there's you know, the the body is drained of blood,
and that predators give it a wide berth. They're like
that thing is going to rot away slowly, but nobody's
gonna touch it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
No one will touch it, which is very odd. Is
there's something there that's and sometimes you know growth under
it after the fact, we you know, there's no growth
of greenery under that, so there, you know. I don't
know if anyone's tested the soil, but it would be
an interesting thing to look at, kind of like crop circles,
you know, around crop circles oftentimes, you know, the soil changes,

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it's different.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Right, that's what I've heard that. And you know, and
from areas where supposedly was some type of ship that
touched down. And of course I'm sure you've heard of
what was that case that people have Actually what was
was the one that it was the lady with her
son and her mom and they all received some type
of that they saw a craft come down on the
road and when they got out, they all suffered some

(01:02:11):
type of burning.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Yeah, radiation, that's that's fairly common, Yeah, fairly common with
especially back in the sixties and seventies, and that radiation
burn was very common. I haven't heard of that in
a long time, but I haven't really heard of a
lot of people having encounters with a craft that's from
close by either lately.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Right, right, But it's almost like something either that's expelled
from the ship or who knows. And and there's in
other words, that there's visible proof that something happened to them,
Right to the lady, the mom of a kid, she
was the one that got the worst burnt. But it
was it was bad. It was a bad burn. It's

(01:02:54):
like something that you you make up it was visible
proof that something had burned her.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yeah. Yeah, So there again it's that connection between you
what is really physical here in this experience. It's obviously
there's a physical component with all of these things. Just
don't know what they are, you know, where they're from
or what they're doing here, but obviously they're interacting with
us at times. Anyway, there was a there's a location

(01:03:22):
not far from here that you know, I think everything
imagine was kind of like another Skinwalker ranch, animal mutilations,
there's crafts scene, there's really bizarre you know, shooting lights
out there. Bigfoot has been seen there. Things move, you know,
like big equipment will move, you know around, and even
small things also on tables will move, you know around,

(01:03:43):
that sort of thing. But at one time, there were
two researchers driving down a road from one area of
this large it's a large acreage and they were driving
down the road from one part of the acreage to
another when they saw a craft overhead and they stopped
the car and got out, and there was this beam
shot down on them and one got definitely sick, and

(01:04:06):
the other one was ill but did not throw up.
But within I think it was within a month. The
one that did not throw up had his hair turned
completely white, and he's had heart issues since then. So yeah,
there's been some strangeness.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Now there's something that there. There was one story. I
read it sometimes I did, I say no, I read it,
and it was a young guy. He said that he
was the youngest of his family. It was going kind
of crazy, and one of his brother in laws goes

(01:04:42):
and picks him up because he was supposed to start calling,
and he goes, hey, well, come on a road trip
with me. I got to take care of some things.
And turns out the road trip was it was they
had taken. He had gone some work. It was in
Colorado somewhere to be a full hunting kind of deal,
some area out there that's very well known for to
have UFO sidings, and his brother in law had bought cameras,

(01:05:06):
you know, binoculars the whole nine yards and he says
that they were out there and I guess it's some
highway kind of deserted area from what he said. Bottom line,
they had a sighting and one of the times, he says,
his brother in law it's like they saw something from

(01:05:26):
far away and then it just shut off. And then
they got a laser and they started playing with a
laser like to point it out there, and it basically
this thing came back. And then he says that he
was looking. I guess it was a nighttime binoculars, and
all of a sudden he's looking and he's seeing it.

(01:05:48):
But then when you took with your naked eye, you
couldn't see it. So it had some type of cloaking device.
And he said that when that thing came back, it
was coming like apparently the laser like made it come back.
Then they left because then all of a sudden it
was like we're in over our heads on this, you know.
When you go That's why I'm saying, people go looking
for it, and then when they got it, they're like, oh,

(01:06:10):
you know exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, it's probably done in the Crestone, Colorado area. There's
a lot of sightings down there, and that's where Steven
Breer takes his groups. I've taken groups there before to
do research on UFOs. It's really an interesting place and
if there's it's very very desolate, very deserted in lots
of ways. It's a good spot to look in the
skies and see things. But but I've heard a lot

(01:06:33):
of stories about infrared cameras where you can see things
that you cannot see with the naked eye. So you know,
these things may be around more often than we realize.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
We just kind of cloaking ability.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I don't know if they cloak or if just you know,
our vision is limited, you know, we just can't can't
see into that. We can't see that vibration. It was
kind of like my dog hears things and smells things
that I can't. But with the infrared, you can see
them because they can go within that spectrum of the
light that you can you know, you can pick up
on various themes, and you can pick up on heat

(01:07:06):
signals sometimes and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Exactly exactly, And I think it's startled because they were thinking, Okay,
if this we're not, what is it planning to do?
You know, it's not letting itself be seen anymore. So
of course everybody thinks the worst, which is like it's
coming to get me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Yeah. Yeah, I think there are probably a lot more
of these things around. We just aren't aware of them,
you know, whether we are deliberately not me you know,
I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
A lot of times I think we see what we
expect to see, and it's like we don't want to,
you know, we overlook the we don't It's like, no,
that would be too disturbing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Have you ever had anybody, whether it's they already we
call it on their own or doing hypnosis, that have
been taken off planet?

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
H Yeah, lots of people that are abducted, you know,
go on craft and they go other places, and they
have lots of stories about you know that that kind
of interaction while they're in the craft. Now, I don't
know that anyone has ever been taken to another planet
and allowed to get off the craft, but you know,
they do have quite an experience aboard the craft.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Right right, In other words that it's sometimes you hear
stories work. It's not just while they're being abducted for examinations.
It's almost like they're given a ride, like hey, come,
come come.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
With us, right, Yeah, it depends, you know, it does
seem like it's an individual experience and an individual encounter.
Now I teach, you know, a type of remote viewing,
an intuitive type of remote viewing, and more often than not,
you know, I can take people or go myself, you know,
to two places and probably get a lot more information
about another planet or you know, something on a planet

(01:08:46):
or something like that. I remember one time I used
to do these well, and I still do them. I do,
you know, the blind remote viewing sessions. But I used
to have people in my home every week and they
would just write a question down and I would gather
the questions. I didn't know who asked the question. I
didn't know the question. I would just shuffle them write
a four number digit on it to have something to

(01:09:08):
connect me with it, and I would look at it.
And I remember this one time I went into it
and I saw four different structures. I didn't know what
I was looking at, but I saw a tower, I
saw a pod, I saw an opening for like a tunnel,
and I saw arches, these arches kind of like McDonald's arches,
but they were much bigger, you know, and they weren't

(01:09:29):
the same color. So when I came out, you know,
I just drew those immediately, so I didn't forget what
they looked like. And I had no idea what the
question was. And I turned it over and it was
like what is on the moon? And I was like, well,
you know, I because we can't verify things. I'm a
real practical person with what I remote you, I like
to verify, you know, if I'm right or come wrong.

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But we couldn't verify this, so I just kind of
tucked it away. And within a few days I was
at a conference and there was a book dealer there.
I knew this guy, so I just walked up to
me and I said, do you know any books that
talk about, you know, structures on the moon. And he said,
oh yeah, let me get this for you. So he
pulled out Ingo Swan's book on remote viewing PEO book
called Penetration, and I opened it up and there are

(01:10:12):
two pages of drawings and it was from a session
that he did on the moon, but he didn't know
it was remote viewing the Moon. It was a really
elaborate book about these people who hired him to do
this private session. He was housed underground, he had no
idea what he was remote viewing, and he kept getting
all this information about these structures and then eventually he

(01:10:34):
guessed that he was remote viewing the moon and there
were at decent beans there. But it was funny because
when I opened that book, what do I see? I
see the arch, the pod, the tunnel opening, and the
arch is exactly like I had drawn. So you know,
either I was you know, connected with a question and
saw what I was going to see in his book

(01:10:55):
within a few days, or he and I both remote
viewed the moon and saw these structures on the one
of the two.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
By the way, I've also heard that it was like,
not only the structure that the Moon in and of
itself is a spaceship. I've heard that one it's a
false satellite. It's not a real you know, like we
think of They were saying that that the that that
normally a real satellite would have been smaller for us,

(01:11:22):
like a moon satellite. We're talking the the size of
the Moon as a satellite is too big for I
guess the mass of the.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Earth, right, And I was like, okay, yeah, I've heard
that too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
It'd be like and and then do you know then
we go down that rabbit hole that that's why they've
never returned to the Moon. You know, after you know,
all those moonshots, then it just you would think, wow,
why don't they keep going? Now that you're there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
You would think, so, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, that's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Like that's that's one of those weird conspiracies. But you
know what it's it's a good question, like Okay, you
guys spent all this money NASA and you've got people
to go there because yeah, we have that space station
out there and everything. We're talking here the Moon, Like
why wouldn't you why wouldn't you go back? And you know,
if you want to test you know that gravity, you know,

(01:12:23):
how how does the body react to no gravity or whatever?
You can do that put a little space station on
the moon.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Yeah, yeah, I would think so. But yeah, there again,
there are a lot of conspiracy theories out there about
all of this. But you know, potentially they didn't want
us to ever come back somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Right exactly like somebody said, yeah, you mean after we
spend all the money.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Sorry, it looked great when it happened, but that's it, right,
it happens. You know, Jules Bird would be proud. Okay,
all right, thanks, right, well it has been so great.
Let me ask you said something that you were working
on a book right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Yeah, should be out within a month, I would say,
maybe sooner. It's called a spy S period P period
I period spy A way to parent success, and it's
about I kind of had to back engineer my life
since I've seen the future so much, and most of
the things I see in the future are good, solid opportunities.
They're not you know, scary things, or sometimes they're warnings,

(01:13:21):
but most of the time, you know, it's just really
being able to be able to see that, and you know,
it's a I have a course that people can go
through and and learn to do the same. So it's
like seeing the opportunity and then learning how to bring
that into a kind of a holographic form and then
into virtual reality and then manifested into your physical life.

(01:13:41):
It's kind of like the law of attraction on steroids magic,
but it's really a bio it's a biophysics process. And
I developed that with my intuitive abilities and remote bearing
with a physicist that had, you know, the physics lingo,
you know, to put with this as to what was
really happened happening you know when we manifest things, and

(01:14:02):
we manifest things all the time, but most of us
stand a little bit of a rut in manifesting. So
it's like by being able to go in the future
see an opportunity there gives you that prep time, which
I've done many times, that prep time between now and
when that thing is going to actually come about, so
that you have the advantage, you know, taking advantage of

(01:14:22):
that to be able to manifest more things in your
life to create the life you want, regardless of what
that life is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Well, I think that sometimes, I hate to say it,
got to blame it on Hollywood, and I know maybe
it's because for the entertainment purposes everything that sometimes they
paint the future very dystopian. They do very like you know,
even the programs with even when you know, when the
zombie things started, you know, walking, everything was God almighty,
everything was horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Right, Yeah, that's true, and you know it's It's just
my life has been the opposite of that. I've always
been able to, you know, if I wanted something, you know,
I would see it, and I could see that I
would know when to do it and see it in
advance and take advantage of that. Now. I've taught people,
you know, how to do intuitive work for years and
remote viewing all types of things, but for some reason,
it had never occurred to me to teach people how

(01:15:11):
to see the future and do what I've done all
my life. For some reason, I just that had not
occurred to me until recently. It's like, why haven't I
done that? You know, It's like that has been such
a valuable tool. You know. I was in real estate
for a lot of years, real estate business and did
real estate investing and still have you know, investment properties
and it's been very financially good to me. But most

(01:15:32):
of the time, you know, those those investments were shown
to me in advance. So this can have a real
practical application, you know. And there again, it doesn't have
to be business. It can be you know, you want
a lighthouse, you want to you know, you want to
take a trip, you want to retire early. You know,
it doesn't matter what it is, whatever, whatever your idea

(01:15:52):
of you know, the life you want to live, and
you know, be able to see how you can can
accomplish that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Right if I want to go for me from point
A to point B, Right, you're thinking, okay, this is
this is the manual to get to that point B.
Whatever it is, right to be able to see convertible or.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Yeah. Yeah, It's like most of us are just you know,
we we have to have you know, we have to
do something, usually to financially survive. You know, that takes
care of our needs. Most of us are looking for
some form of social relationship issues, you're huge. And the
other thing is we want health. We want to have
a good healthy body to go through life in. Yes,
so you know when when those when those needs are met,

(01:16:36):
you know, and this is helping you to find ways
to meet those needs, but to make them fit into
a picture that is more the life you want to live,
the actual life you want to live. And so many
times we get stuck in these ruts. You know, we're
still using that the process, but we're doing it over
and over and over in a pattern, and we stay
there and we never break out of that. So you

(01:16:56):
almost you have to learn first to know yourself and
to break out of those patterns so that you can
see some of the things that are available to you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I think we're we're you know, that's saying that we're
creatures of routine. I think we truly are, even when
the routine is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Not really what we like, right, But that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I know what I'm doing here, Yeah at all, I
like it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
But it's like, yeah, well, you know, in all of
this paranormal stuff that you know, that I've researched and
been so intricately involved with for so long. I mean,
I think it's very fascinating. But actually what I'm talking
about about, you know, seeing things in the future and
being able to see, you know, whether regardless of what
it is, or being able to manifest these things. You know,
these are all part of that same world. You know,

(01:17:40):
there are things that are unseen to us and their
energy feels that we can interact with, but we just
haven't learned how to necessarily or.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Don't even believe, don't know that they're they're they're like
yeah right, or we put it in the what's this
the category of like magic? How's that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know it's really quite
a normal process whenever you break it down. But you know,
we just haven't learned how to depend on that or
to use it. And you know, this is a little
bit of a conspiracy theory to me. What the powers
that be kind of don't want the late person to
know maybe a lot of this because it's very powerful, Yeah,

(01:18:16):
I seven or something, I forget yea, it was back then, remember.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
The secret came out and that was the opening thing
of the movie was that the secret is the one
that they want to keep away from the masses, because, yeah,
it's very powering.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
I mean when you when you learn the power of
your your own mind and consciousness and working with energy fields.
I mean, we we learned early on how to manipulate
energy through our physical body. You know, we learn how
to walk, we learn how to pick up a pen
and write down something, we learn how to use our
mouth to speak, but nobody tells you how to use
energy feels that we can't see and they're all there,

(01:18:56):
you know. It's it's very it's like very available.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
For my podcast listeners. Linda, what is your website where
they can find out about it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
And I actually don't even have a website, but you
can find Linda Eastpurn YouTube channel. You get to me
from there, Linda Eastburn at gmail dot com if you
want to just personally contact me. I'm also on casebook,
you know, just lend it. And then I have a
Facebook group called Bigfook Cryptid Midwest. Okay, so you can
get to me through any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Yeah, okay, yeah, there's plenty of ways yet. Thank you
so much. Linda has been absolutely wonderful. Thank you that
you're going to release what is it that you're going
to be.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
It's the new one that's coming out. Is a Spy
Your Way to Power and Success?

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
And what is that out?

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
More or less or you think we next Tuesday we
send it to the publisher and it I mean it's
within days. It may be up. It'll be on Amazon.
He'll be on Amazon, So you'll be on Amazon. Excellent,
and you can find uh, you can find Threshold to
Encounters on Amazon now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
On Amazon and they can just find you either by
the title or by your name as an author.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Yeah, she'll be able to find me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Yeah, excellent. Thank you so much. It's been absolutely wonderful.
I want to wish you the best of luck and
I want you to come back stories, because god, you've
been doing this for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
It's yeah, a lot of stories.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Take care.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Thank your Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
She's but she's done it all. See, she's she's she
she she interviews people, she's hypnotized them in different areas.
I mean, besides the past life regression. But you know
she's done the the abductee scenario. People that you know

(01:20:44):
that sometimes how's this? You know some people think that
they have been abducted, they have faint memories or and
sometimes it might be you know, because people say, well,
how do you know it's like something? Really you don't
know because use let's say, if you hypnotize a person
and they're describing something, whatever their experience was, whether it

(01:21:08):
was good, bad, or examination, it might confirm something for them,
it might not because you know, you hear people having
these abduction experiences. It was not the best how's that?
Or it was like I prefer you not do this again,
or it was okay, now there's kind of are a

(01:21:30):
little bit positive about it. But there's really no way
for you to ever say, let's say it's a hypnotist
or anybody listening to the story to say that's true
or that's not true, because it could be yeah, that
there's people that sometimes they make this up. Of course,
of course there are, but there's others that don't, you know,

(01:21:51):
some of them, as a matter of fact, some people don't.
We'll hear about abduction UFO abduction stories and never equate
it to themselves, and I myself, you know, as a hypnotist, myself,
as a hypnotherapist. You know, sometimes you hypnotize people and
for something else, and then certain memories will surface along

(01:22:12):
the way, which was not the original intent of the
hypnosis session. Okay, And sometimes maybe that experience or that
memory I should say, has been trying to kind of
like burp out for lack of a better word, And
maybe when that person's in that super relaxed state, when

(01:22:36):
their mind's quieted down, their critical factor is down, and
they're like, you know, they're not the house of this.
They're not busy telling themselves that that can never happen
to them. I'm talking about something off the side that
comes in and zooms in, but they kind of like
all of a sudden go you know, by the way
you know this like and it's like okay, because maybe

(01:23:01):
when you're not not hypnotize as this, you would if that,
if that thought or that thing ever came into your mind,
you'd be like, no, that's stupid, or whether my imagination
is running away with me, or one of those deals,
you see what I'm saying. And sometimes of their hypnosis,
your mind is more open and accepting of the possibility

(01:23:23):
or that memory is able to come in so that
you say, well, you know, remembering this or like what
is that or the things like that. You know that
that that that flavor comes in depends also, you know what,
It depends a lot on the person's number one, their

(01:23:46):
personality and off their life experiences. There's people, whether you
want to call them introverts extroverts. You have the people
that are a type personalities that they're like they want
to have an adventure, if it's new and maybe even risky,
they're let's do it. Yeah. And then there's the personalities
which are like no, no, no, no, no, no no,

(01:24:08):
let's keep this all very sane, very normal, very vanilla,
don't you know. There's people in the in betweens. But
you know, some some personalities you're born with it. Somethings
shape you by your life experiences. I guess that that
that can determine how open you are to allowing maybe

(01:24:31):
a certain memory to come back in, especially something that
was way out there, let's say, like an abduction or
seeing something that that you're like, you know, let me, wow,
wait a minute, that this could be true. You know that,
in other words, that you allow yourself to like really
look at it and then maybe even accept the God

(01:24:53):
this really did happen to me whether it's the present life.
You know, we're not talking here, we're talking age regression.
We're this past life regression, you know, which would we're
when we're talking let's say real this lifetime you know,
age regression. You know, you'll have people sometimes that they
see things when they're very, very young and they don't

(01:25:14):
remember consciously what they saw, and either because it scared them.
And by the way, you know when when she says
something about the trauma as a childhood, yes, that is
very important. But sometimes kids wig out because they see
things that they just don't understand. Like in other words,

(01:25:35):
in their world. Even as a child, you understand what's
normal and what's not, and this what you saw doesn't
fit in there. So you're like, okay, I don't know
what to do with this. Let me just put that
away right And then, like I said, as you grow

(01:25:56):
up or you get older, or maybe you start having
dreams or certain me memories, or you might even see
a scene in a movie that you'll look at it
and you'll go, wait a minute, what you know, like
you have a visceral reaction to it. Sometimes, I guess
my point is not always past life regression. Sometimes it's

(01:26:17):
this life regression.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
And that's the thing your subconscious mind. You might not
consciously remember it, but you're subconscious is always running. It's
like a twenty four to seven camera, you know, auditory,
it's processing everything, you know, what you think. That's why
sometimes people and I know this be ably gonna say, Ah, Marlene, Yeah,

(01:26:42):
I believe in intuition. I do. I do believe in intuition.
I believe in the psychic abilities. But a lot of
times what people think of as a psychic ability is
your subconscious billing you in for something that you might
have seen. You might have scanned this out of the
corner of your eye, and how's this. Let's let's let's

(01:27:08):
let's go with this scenario. Let's say you go to
some party, some people you know, some you don't. All
right in other words, just a mix of people in there.
It's upun and you go in there and then you
start getting this feeling like, you know what this I
don't feel comfortable. I need to get out of here.

(01:27:30):
Something about this place is like and but contrary to
what's happening, you know, everybody's having fun, maybe you have
friends there. In any other setting, you'd be having a
great time, but somebody's telling you know, I think you
need to leave. Get out of here, Get out of here.
You might have scanned or seen somebody when you walked in.

(01:27:50):
You know when people walk into a party that you scan.
You know, you scan like, okay, like who's the here,
what's there? What's going on? I mean, I'm not talking
about staring. I'm talking to scanning like a room. Like
you got there. You might have seen somebody or something
going on, which is really what's driving that warning sign
to get out of there. Okay, you saw somebody or

(01:28:14):
you see something going down there, and your subconscious mind
is going like, oh hey, this person or that you
see those two they'reabouts something. In other words, your subconscious
mind is the one that's needling you to get out
of there. And some people. And then let's say something happens.
You know, you leave the party or you don't, but
let's say let's go the You leave the party. Right

(01:28:37):
two minutes after you leave, somebody tells you, hey, a
shooting took place at that place. Man, somebody brought in
a gun and that a shooting, or two guys started
having a fight or something happened. You know, the party
broke out, broke up because you know, two guys got
into a fistfight, and then before you know what, everybody
like they destroyed the place and they or people were

(01:28:59):
arresting who know, and people like man, you know, you're thinking, oh,
so psychic got out of there right in time. No,
you weren't psychic. It was just your subconscious mind that's
always picking up on stuff, telling you get out of here,
get out of here, get out of here. What they
call it sometimes the gut instinct. The difference between that

(01:29:22):
and when people are psychic or your intuition is when
you know something there is no way for you to know.
This wasn't something you saw or sensed or small smell
or herd, even if it's in the background, in the
in the subconscious mind that puts, you know, rapidly puts
all this together as I started going on your shoulder,
Hey hey, hey, hey, No, this is information that there

(01:29:43):
is no way, no way you could have known. Then
that's we're talking here, psychic slash intuition, you know, that's
what that is. I mean, one thing doesn't negate the other.
But a lot of times when we have instances of
of aha, moments. It's your subconscious going finally you got it,

(01:30:06):
dumbass god. You know, hey, didn't you see that guy
standing in the corner over there with his hoodie up?
You know that guy's violet, or that guy looked like
he was high, or that guy looked like he was
gonna do something, or there was something about him that
you know you read the body language. Or you see

(01:30:27):
two guys and they're like, you know, there's music going on,
but you sweep the room and all of a sudden,
you see these two guys they're about to start punching.
They're like, you know something's gonna happen, and you're being
told to get out of here. No, you went psychic.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
You just.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Subconscious is like you need to believe. And a lot
of people sometimes when they have those flashes of insight
or that feeling or that gut or that they don't
pay attention to do it, they think, wait, wait, wait,
this is a great party. What have I got to
leave for. I'm not having a great time. I should

(01:31:05):
be having a great time. Despite the fact that maybe
I feel uncomfortable and I get I can't put my
finger on it. I should my friends are here, the
music's great, there's about a bunch of people, there's good food,
good drink. Why should I leave? No, man, I'm stupid,
nothing's gonna happen. You know how many people talk themselves
out of that, that that intuition and a subconscious going

(01:31:27):
all right, here we go because they feel stupid. Now,
by this, I don't mean you can get paranoid. You
can't let paranoia rule your life, all right, and again
against this depends on the personality style of the person
that like, you're not hearing, you're not seeing something bad
behind every rock, in other words, that you know yourself.

(01:31:53):
How's this there's a difference. Let's say that that same
scenario kind of more or less. But let's say this party.
You know some people, but the majority of people you
really don't know, and you've never been to you know,
there's a there's a thing called I'm uncomfortable kind of
because I don't know a lot of these people here,
and I've never been to this house, and I know
a couple of people, but the majority of people I
don't know who they are. So I'm kind of uncomfortable

(01:32:16):
because I need to get the land of the land.
I need to find out Who's who? Yeah, man and
I and you arrivalone how's that let's let's let's make
it more and you see one of your friends in
life's like But otherwise you know nobody, the host or
the hostess who they're too busy to make introductions. So
you know you're feeling, Okay, what do I do here?
That's different, that's just uncomfortable because of the scenario of

(01:32:38):
the situation. That's different from I'm there, I'm having maybe
a good time, or I see the potential, or in
any other setting, I would be having a blast. But
I'm really wigging out here and I'm real and like
I'm jumpy, or I'm waiting for something to happen, or
somebody makes a hey, You're like shit, you know, Like

(01:33:03):
then that's more like your intuition you're feeling. You're subconscious
talking to you telling you you saw it. You just
overlooked it because you were just thinking about something else.
You know, you were into something else. But in that
corner over there, there's these two guys that are bocked
pound each other and for all you don't have this

(01:33:25):
huge fight or maybe when you saw some of them,
maybe they have anything. They just sell the potential. This
is like this is going to go south. It's it's
very weird. We're very interesting creatures, simple and complex at
the same time. And I agree with Linda, you know
that question that they have. Let's say, let's go with
a bigfoot, but with cryptis. But let's go are they

(01:33:48):
just regular animals, like nothing, magical, mystical whatever, h or
is there a connection between them and extraterrestrials and or
is there something mystical as in that they could jump dimensions?
Or like that story about the dog man. Here's this

(01:34:11):
train whistle that was a great story, by the way,
And all of a sudden, because I really thought, she
goes the train whistle, say them the dog man left. No,
the dragon the dog man disappeared. I was like what.
I was like, what in the world that is? Okay? Honestly,
then that puts the dog man in this case into

(01:34:33):
kind of like a mythic or what's the word I'm
looking for, non corporeal being. But then you have other
people that will say, no, it was totally an animal.
I mean I heard it running, or I heard it moving,
I heard the crunch of leaves, and I even smelled

(01:34:53):
it and you're like, Okay, how can something that can
just evaporate actually cause an effect in the physical plane?
How does that work? You know, that kind of deal.
That kind of deal very interesting. It's paranormal for all

(01:35:14):
we think, we know, we especially with all the reality shows,
there's still a lot of questions out there, how's this?
All these reality shows, you know, especially they whatever it
is that they're whether it's the cryptid of fakefoot that
goes whatever. Yeah, they've brought all these gadgets and they're
all like proof proof, proof, proof, proof, we got proof,
we got this, we got that. But at the end

(01:35:36):
of the day, they really haven't given the definitive answer
on it. You know, like what people ask, well, why
do you guys come back? Or why do they need
to be dressed? Or how can they affect if they
are if they're not corporeal. If this is the spirit

(01:35:56):
or the soul of a human being, why why can
it be trapped or not trapped? Or you know, basically,
how's this touch you? Because there's people that will say
I felt like a touch. I mean I had one
paranormal group. A gentleman this was in North Dakota, say
he got slapped in the forehead when they were doing

(01:36:18):
an investigation down the basement of a house. Now, how
can they do that if there is no physical hand
for him to do that? With a lot of interesting questions. Anyway, guys,
I hope you like this show. I have a lot
of interesting guests coming on waiting in the wings. Go
to Miami Goes Chronicles dot com. Go to mpipelaster dot com.

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(01:37:05):
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This stuff is still interesting. You know what this person
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it's still good. It's like nothing, nothing that you could
hear that. It's like, oh that's old nobody. No, it's like, wow,
well this person is talking about it's still relevant and
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(01:37:49):
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