Haunted Moments | Interview with Craig & Ashley from Crash Media Paranormal - Stories of the Supernatural

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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part of my audience, and I think you are all
one wonderful. I don't know what's going on with my
my this set up here today. It's just doing its

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own thing. It's dragging. It's but you'll see at the
intro whoever watches this later, it's like it's like I said,
some I got a delay. I don't know. I don't know.
What can I say. You know, we're having bad weather
out here in Florida. Who knows, who knows? You know,
I've spoken about this before. Sometimes I call it paranormal sabotage,
especially not because when I have a spicy uh spicy

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guess because when I said that is an extorsist or something,
I was like, okay, somebody wants But I don't think
that's the case here. I just think it's like stuff
acting up. That's the only explanation I can give. So
everything is good. Besides that, everything is good here. Everything
is good. You know what everybody who's asking me, you know,
you know the last few shows I've talked about, you know,

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the news as far as with the UFOs. But my
other thing futuristic stuff is having to do with AI, okay,
and everybody's kind of a little bit can I say it? Uh?
Wigged out?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I know some people more than others are a little
bit wigged out, okay, and but you know, let me
wig you out a little bit more. Okay. This is
this is an article out of Interesting Engineering, and it's
titled video China slim Wasted humanoid robot debuts with lifelike
human skills. Check it out, all right. It's called the

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Q five okay, and it uses lightar and stereo vision
to u a autonomously navigate complex spaces with smooth movement
and minimal human oversight, which means it can do whatever
it wants. I'm only kidding, but it's it's a firm
called Roboterra. They just unveiled it, okay, and basically they're

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showcasing in dexterity, more mobility, and interactive intelligence, which you
know a lot of these videos that you see about robots,
you know, they're very like awkward and stumbling and very slow.
So I guess they're going after that aspect and again
human like builds and it excels in environments requiring delicate manipulation,

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smooth navigation, and lifelike engagement. Also, it supports full body
tele operation through gloves and VR systems. Okay, and apparently
they it can even use chopsticks. Now and check this out.

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It does culinary tasks like cooking, dumpling, steaming buns, and
pouring wine. Remember this in China. So what that means
is that pretty soon they'll be saying, do you want
to want delivered home? It'll cook for you. It aims
to redefine human robot interaction through its fusion of engineering,
position and embodied artificial intelligence. Okay. It weighs about one

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hundred and twenty four pounds UM and one thy sixty
fifty millimeters in height. I don't know exactly how that
translates into inches. It responds quickly up to ten times
per second. What means it could kill you very quickly.
Just kidding, not really, But and let's see what else
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Anyway, let

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me get back to so what do you guys think?
Do you think that this is something to worry about
or not? Because I know everybody is thinking sky nets,
But all right, this you know what this reminds me

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more of I take that back of eye robot. Okay,
where everybody has this handy dandy little robot running around
in your house doing all the menial tasks that we
hate to do, including this one that. Uh so, what
do you think in less than easily less than ten years,
five years maybe? And I don't know how deep your

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pockets have to be to get one of these? Is
it a good thing? Is it a bad thing? What
are the caveats on that? Right? Uh? And as a
matter of fact, last week's show, I was talking with
a gentleman by the main name of James Russell and
he's a psychic me and we got into the conversation

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at one point do robotics slash AI become sentient and
have a soul? Wow? Huh think about that. I'm telling you.
The only reason why they make them so human like
versus you know. Uh, let's say you remember the Jetsons
for those of you are old enough, you know the
little the little robot that was the maid. She was

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purely real, but yeah, she kind of like him, but
not really. You could tell she was strictly robotics. You know,
this insistence of it looking more and more like a
human is to humanize it for us because we're built
that way, We're wired that way. So at what point
does it become sentient? Doesn't have a soul? Remember Blade Runner,
how these robots have a definite time span and they

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come back to their creator because they don't want to die.
Something to think about, because really, you know, even when
you think about the paranormal and ghosts and everything, which
is the human soul that supposedly is trapped? You know,
are in the future we're going to be doing paranormal
investigations into robots that have died. I know. It's a

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big rabbit hole, isn't it? Okay? But let me get
onto the good part. The good part is who is
the guest today. These are investigators from Crash Paranormal. Their
name is Craig Rackley. He's an educator, portrait artist, and
paranormal investigator based in Birmingham, Alabama. His journey into the
paranormal began in two thousand and seven when he formed

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the research team Birmingham Paranormal. After several years of investigating together,
the team merged with the Tuscaloosa Paranormal Research Group. It's
a TAPS affiliated. In his eighteen years in the field,
Craig has taken partner over two hundred investigations across the
United States. Ashley Kirkland is a professional photographer, actor, filmmaker,
and paranormal investigator based in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. She's a third

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generation ghost hunner actually comes from a family with deep
roots in the paranormal field. Growing up in a haunted
house only fueled her lifelong curiosity about the supernatural. In
twenty nineteen, she joined the Tuscaloosa Paranormal Research Group with
a mission to learn more and others navigate their own
unexplained experiences. In twenty twenty three, they partnered co found

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Crush Media Paranormal, further expanding their work in the paranormal field.
Help me welcome them. How are you doing today? Guys? Oh,
let me a mutube that would help. How are you
guys doing? I know it's like comedy of errors. So
you both have backgrounds in paranormal Nashally, you have from

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a family, you know background In other words, you grew
up in a haunted house? Was it really haunted? Now?
How's this? Did you realize it was haunted when you
were living there or is it something that after you
grew up you look back and you go, wow, that
that was that was a haunting.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
You know, back in like the eighties and nineties, you know,
the ghost hunting on TV shows wasn't really a thing,
and so we knew it was haunted, but it was
one of those things. We didn't really talk about it,
you know, crazy and everything. But now that I'm older
and you know this is, you know, the paranormal has
been become more of a hoping conversation with people and accepted.

(09:10):
I look back on it and understand things so much
better now, Like I wish I could. I can investigate
that house. But back then, you know, it was just
just experiencing these things. And I think that's why I
became an investigator now, so I can, you know, learn
more and understand the things that I did experience.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Okay, and how about you, Greig, did you ever have
a childhood experience?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Usually in my great grandmother's house Mobile, Alabama or in
Spanish there, it's like every time I would try to sleep,
I would hear breathing totally, and it's like I couldn't
sleep and it would scare the mess out of me.
But when I was a kid, my mom had an
old friend from high school come and spend the weekend

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with it. And she was a ghost hunter, and I
had never even heard of a ghost hunner, okay, And
so she came and told us the story about being
up on the ladder and painting a wall, and something
kept like pulling at her shirt, and so finally she
put the paint and brush down and looked at it
and said, I don't know who you are, but either

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you're gonna help me paint this wall or you're gonna
leave me alone alone. And so left her alone the
rest of the night, but for some reason, she stayed
up all night by telling the story. So that's when
I was hooked. Then it was Stephen King novels.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, that'll do it.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was reading Anne Rice when I was like twelve,
you know, So yeah, you know. And then now I'll
live in a house, oh you do, okay, a hundred
year old of the historical Investment Alabama. It's called the
Bristol House. I was built by the first pediatricians in
best Friend, Alabama, and the rumor is that it was

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taken over by the mafia the mob, which was actually
very prevalent in Bestment, Alabama, of all places. Okay, the
rumor is they got rid of the bodies in my basement.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Was this what during prohibition or afterwards?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think, yeah, your prohibition because around yeah, around that time,
and uh, there is a very weird bathtub in my basement.
And I've had like several neighbors comment on that, Oh,
that's where they used to get rid of the bodies.
I'm like, well that's what, you.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Know, what, Hey, no body, no crime. Let's face that.
You know, let's face a lot of these people weren't
weren't going to be missed anyway. But still yeah, but yeah,
I believe it they did a way that that all that. Uh,
and by a lot of people don't realize that a
lot of states or counties around the country went dry

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like years before prohibition, so they were already they there
was a network of bootlegging going on way before the
actual like prohibition was enacted across the country, and which
of course comes along with a bunch of crime because
everybody wanted it and on that money exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
And Buzzy Seagull, you know, the big famous mobster Marion A.
Slim cigarette.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Really she was froment there, you I did not know that, so.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
They may be my house. I have no idea, but
uh but uh, one time they were shooting film in
my basement. There's been like three you know, like like uh,
short film shot in my basement, and and makeup were
just sitting there there watching the film being shot.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And uh huh.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
The only way I can describe it is a blue
mask at the bottom of the on the floor goes
from one end to the other, like like like a
little piece of ball lightning. We both looked. You saw that, right, right?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, let me tell you something. I don't know what
it is about basements, sellars, caves, mines. I don't know.
There's always something if you're gonna have it's like guaranteed
there's either you have weird stuff in all the house.
But the darker stuff is always there, right. I don't
know why. I don't know if it has to do

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with being inside the earth itself, but always the slant
is a little bit darker or malevolent or you know,
creepy when it's something going into the ground. You know,
you hear about all the time when people you know
use their cellars or their basements for like recreational purposes,
and they're like, yeah, I was, people like I'm gonna

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sleep down there, forget it. I'm not. Or you have
to think twice, but I have to go downstairs to
the laundry, but not by myself, right, that kind of
deal exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
And it could be also the deeper it is, the
more constant. Yes, yeah, temperature down there.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And you don't have any wells in there, because I
know a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, I think so, because when I bought the house,
was putting up an defense and we put some concrete
in a specific area and we literally watered it all
this overnight and never filled up. So I have, I have.
There's a lot of minds of investments. So but there's

(14:26):
there's been rumors of tunnels. Oh yeah, best for Alabama
has a very long history.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Interesting. Yeah, and people, you know what, we don't think
of it because I don't think it. Well, no, I
take that back as far as modern use, but I'm
thinking about it. I get claustrophobic because when you look
at some of these tunnels. But for some reason, especially
when we're talking about bootlegging and illegal stuff, that tunnel
thing was a popular thing to do.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, So especially if somebody wanted somebody that didn't want
to be seen, like as in a well known person,
our politician or somebody I want to come and go
or delivery of stuff. Yeah, but that was like, well,
what's what's the word for its skullduggery. Yeah. Yeah, So
I bet you had a lot of that going on.
So when did you why did you guys decide what

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is as far as the haunt you you both work
together in the same paranormal group, right, okay, and what.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
We're part of a group called the Paranormal Research Group, Right,
So we've been you know, investigators with that, but we
started CRASH kind of able to create our own channel
and share our investigation. So we do something on our
own with CRASH and then we you know, document all
the investigations that we go on with Testid Paranormal and you.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Know, just to kind of show what we do and
how we do things.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean ask you do you guys have you been
to I'm sure you have, but I'm let Mobile, Alabama
because I know that's a very old city as far
as historical.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Stuff, right, that's where my family is from.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Wrong, Okay?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
In that area, and we do have a couple of
things that we're looking at. A mobile.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, I think we didn't.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Want near there recently and so earlier in the year.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So there, right, because I know that a lot of
people don't realize how old Mobile is and that one
time it was the the uh the wealthy families from
up in the Northeast would come and spend their their
winters there and mobile because of the weather and where,
yes it is. People don't realize that, Yes it did.

(16:42):
That's where they had the cruise and where they started.
Everybody thinks Marty Grass, New Orleans, but no Mobile. Yes,
it's a big celebration, right, just like with the parades
and stuff like that. Yes, that was a big And
which really fascinating I think is that most of these

(17:03):
crews it was like a private membership. You didn't know
who belonged to them, right, you know, and you always say, hm,
why but you know, but yeah, that was the thing
that the membership was. You know, you couldn't just join,
you had to be like allowed in and then whoever
was the were the members It was like I was like, yeah, okay,

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but yeah, that's that's really interesting. But yeah, but they
have a lot of old houses out there, a lot
of old houses.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, as a matter of fact, there was and the
real quick there was a I was doing research on something.
There was a family same thing. She They were out
of New York, but they had family done in in Mobile.
Very wealthy as a matter of fact, connected to the
Vanderbilts out of Staten Island. She goes on to marry

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a gentleman that he lived there. You know, you know
every back then, you know, you had to know somebody
to know somebody. Everybody was well connected. She ended up
having a kid. She ended up her daughter, you know,
in other words, her the child of this gentleman from Mobile,
very wealthy. She ended up marrying a gentleman by the
last name of Maprick who back in the nineties. They

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ended up by finding a supposed diary somewhere in the UK.
He was out of Liverpool in England, which supposedly he
was admitting to being Jack the Ripper.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
It was one of those things where you know, very
high profile Northeastern family out of Mobile, Alabama that had
a house on Government Road. I think it is one
of ends up being connected somehow or other to Jack
the Ripper, and I was like, okay, talk about very
weird connections. So let me ask you what. Well, what

(18:44):
I'm saying is that sometimes you just know what is it?
Seven degrees of separation, But in some cases it's even
less than that. Let me ask you, did you ever
either one of you have a inexperience, either on an
investigation or by yourselves? Well, you you this. I believe
in the paranorm. I believe in ghost like like, I

(19:05):
know that this cannot be explained by my imagination. What
were you called that? Coming to Jesus moment?

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I think, yeah, well, you know, and one thing when
I was growing up in I wanted how you know,
we experienced things all the time, and a couple of
things is when I would witness a full bodied apparition.
And so it's one of those things like I knew
what I saw, and but the order I got, you know,
you kind of questioned that, well, you know, could I

(19:36):
really have seen something? But now that we're able to
go on these investigations and document it with like scientific
equipment and like the proof that these things.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Exist, and I look back from that and like, you know, that's.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Especially seeing an apparition that's really kind of what makes
you realize that there's something there.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
And that's probably one of the biggest moments before me
is seeing something.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Even though I was a kid then looking back on
the house still just still just kind of just close
my mind.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
So you've actually seen something. Yeah, and not everybody has
that experience, by the way.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
And you know, it's really weird because when I was
a kid, I saw two full bodied apporitions. Since I've
been adult, I have not seen a full body apperition.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
What did they look like?

Speaker 4 (20:26):
So the first one I saw was an old man
and he had white hair, white beard.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I could see his clothing.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Which now I know was kind of like a time
to period specific clothing. He had like ruffles, white ruffles
on his shirt and all around the sleeves and a
tan vest over top of it. And the second one
I saw was a little girl who was wearing like
a long nightgown.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
I could see her shouldering, dark hair and everything.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
And so you know, very clear, like I you know
all of those details now that I haven't seen an
apparition like that. So I'm like, all these these locations
we go to, why have I seen another one?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, it's just something about being a kid. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
We did capture a figure on our full spectrum camera
that is extremely clear, and and so that's the closest
I've gotten to see an apparition, but.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
It was the piece of evidence that we captured.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
But but yeah, when I was little, I guess, you know,
when you're a kid, you.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Just did you did you have any idea the ghost were?
You know, sometimes there's the usual suspect or do you
have no idea?

Speaker 4 (21:37):
We don't know, because we think that it was probably
like the land that was in the house because the
house was only built in like the fifties or sixties,
and so you know, we had a nickname for him
because we didn't know who it was, so growing up,
I called him Chester and so we've always referred to

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him as Chester, and Okay, but as.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Far as he actually was, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
And that's one reason I wish I could get back
there and investigate, do it the formal investigation.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
And I have tried researching the land, right.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
It really doesn't lead me anywhere, I guess, because you know,
he looked like he was more from like the seventeen
and eighteen hundreds, right exactly, almost impossible to go back
that form and buying something.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
And sometimes they didn't record stuff that well. They had
you know, a big piece of land and maybe had
farmers or sharecroppers or just people that were on there
that never for the records were lost. God, that happens.
How about you, Craig, did you have seen.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
My biggest thing happened at well? My first body Apprissian
was at Slat Furnace in Birmingham, Okay, and we had
what was his name? He had a show on travel
channel Risks it was anyway, we had Chris Fleming Chris,

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and he was with us that night and we were
in one of the tunnels, not tunnels, but one of
the walkways and in Slas Furnace.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
M h.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It was raining, so it rained, but uh maybe about
several yards away a white figure stepped out behind a
train car and was watching us. And then it step out,
step back and step back in. Then you'd see like
an arm dangle, you know. He was like like almost

(23:36):
like playing with us, but solid, almost like if someone
were to put on a body body stocking. Yes, solid
white and this we said, and watched him probably for
about three four minutes, since was not capture him because
of the rain, and as soon as we started taking
steps forward, he was gone off. But the most significant

(23:58):
thing that's happened was that rushing mountain the state prison
into the sea. Okay, we were on an investigation there
and we had probably about seventh grade. I don't know either.
I wasn't there on that one.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
I want one.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
There, Yeah, yeah, we need to go back back. We
had probably about seven six or seven investigators there. So
we broke up into no, we have about ten. So
we broke up in them two groups, and really nothing
was happening. And this is like two hours into the
investigation and this just dead silent, nothing's going on, no feelings,
you know, nothing. So we were out in the yard.

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My group was up in the yard, and the other
group was up in the main prison, even one of
the silver blocks. And so I was like, hey, I'm
gonna mess with so. I'm a very loud person, teacher,
so it was a very loud persons. So I let
out the biggest, bigfoot yell that I could possibly let out.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Oh my god, echoed.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
In the mountains and echoed through the prison. And then
we were like okay, and then did anybody hear that,
like what's here? So we had a big laugh at it.
You know, everything we said, Oh that was like God.
So we took a break and walked back in the
prison totally different. It's like the air had been sucked
out of it. Okay, the whole atmosphere was completely different

(25:16):
from when we were in there before, and everybody knowsters
It's like it got dark all of a sudden, and
I think I really made something bad. And so me
and another investigator went to the cafeteria, which is almost
pitch black black, and we you know, we were using
our video cameras to be able to see where we're
going to change some batteries and some equipment. And when

(25:38):
I turned around to change some batteries, something jumped. And
when I say, it felt like something had stuck to
electrodes to me and just my like just on fire
higher and I'm like, hinted up. I'm like something's on me,
something something, something's only something's on me, and I'm like,
get off, get off, get off. And I didn't know
what to do, so I just kept going forward and
the second I hit the steps, it was just gone,

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like just wow. We walked downstairs to our staging area
and one of the investigators came from another part of
the prisoners and came in. As soon as she hit
the room, she doubled back and something's only something was
only so it has followed us jumped onto her. What
they even got holy water? And she was like, yeah,

(26:23):
she had no idea that it happened to me. And
she's like doubled back, like, oh my god, oh my god.
And it's the exact same action I had. So something
I made something ad that night. I learned not to
do that.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
But yeah, let me tell you something. You must have
taken years off the lives of that other group. I
swear they've been like.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
He did that with Sweet Spring Sanitary, remember, and that's
you know, up in the mountains, just like in West Virginia,
and just like you know, it was in the middle
of the night and he lets bigfoot yell and it
just echoed. I mean, it sounds like a literal monsteril.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Like nobody's like do you want to go look? Do
you want to know? You know? You know, you see
people like they're trying to get a little ev P
likes whispering, and all of a sudden you hear that
and be like, you know, I don't want to be
a ghost hunter anymore. Yeah, yeah, I want to go home.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now. You're serious about what we do.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
But we've got oh sure, absolutely considering the subject matter, yes,
you do. You have to have a sense of humor
because of now you get too caught up in it.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Uh, we've actually noticed cut you off. We've actually noticed
it sometimes when we are having fun, yes, and like
those times when we're not like investigating stuff, that's when
we get some of It's like.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
You're laughing and stuff, and you know, maybe do like
a role play session or just something and just trigger something.
We'll just be laughing and it had been it'll be
quiet before that, but then stuff starts happening.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
So it's like it triggers that and it serves things.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Up right, Like you shift your attention away from like
that hearing or singing like and it's like, okay, I
guess I'm not paying attention. What are they doing? What
are they saying? But let me tell you something. Prisons.
Prisons are something else. I've been to Moundsville, so the
one in Virginia, and of course it's empty like a
lot of these prisons, but when you walk in there.
It's like you can tell whatever it is, you know,

(28:33):
like you stir it up, but you could tell whatever
happened in you know, what's that saying of walls could talk?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, I don't think there's a prison that is not haunted.
How's that?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
I think they all are? Yeah, in Alabama, which is
the prison capital.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Of the world.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Really, I did not know that it has a lot
of prisons out there. Investigate right, right, I'm talking about
you know these old ones that were built like post
uh and pre Civil War era that were huge, those
huge you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Right for the smaller towns, right I imagine? Yes, Okay,
So the have you ever gone to some place? How's this?
And because like when you go to one of these
prisons or these older places, you're kind of primed for
lack of a better word, Have you ever gone to
a place where you didn't expect it? Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, many times? Many times.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Well, honestly, the last place that we went to, you know,
I mean it has a long history and everything. I've
always heard it's actually here and heard most stories about it,
but we weren't expecting it to be super but it
ended up being a very active investigation.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
But there's been places that.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
You know that we've been that it really surprises you.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, we did a bed and breakfast in Montgomery and
it was a private investigation, so we can't you know,
say the name of I understand. It was just a
talkorable bed and breakfast and we got lights amazing. None
of it was called camera because it all happened.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
We had one thing camera.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah. We actually this was kind of towards the beginning
of the investigation and me and one other other investigator
we went up there and this is the first time
I've ever seen something like this. It was like a mask,
like a light. It almost produced it now light, but
it was like a mist but really thick.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
And this thing flew above my head and you know,
pitch pla, but I could see it. It was aflection of.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
A car on the wall or anything it was like
in the area. Yeah, I react to it, and we
have a DVR system we take away us and so
with IR light and so on the DVR system, you
can see it go above my head and you see
me kind of like react to it, like you know,
freak out kind of. And so it just ship that

(31:10):
and we had been there before and investigated this location
and you know, got a few things. It wasn't like,
you know, crazy active, but this time, you know, just
kind of seeing something like that explained that.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
That was did it have its aluminescence? Was its casting
its own light?

Speaker 4 (31:27):
In other worse Yeah, and it was like the other
investigators investigator didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I'm alone who saw it. But yeah, that's the only
way I can.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Describe it is it kind of put out its own
light and it was but it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Bright or anything, but in the room it was obvious. Yeah,
it just kind of flew right over my head.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
We were hearing some noise in the corner of the
room where it came from, so we were looking over
there and and then as we were kind of looking
that's when it flew over my head.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
But that did dick up on our DVR system.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
That is a private locations and so unfortunately we like
to share that.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
People don't realize. You know, there's people I tell you know,
everybody thinks that because of the reality shows, everybody all
the clients want there. If there's a lot of people
out there that do not want a ton of anything
like that because they're like, no, no, no, I don't
want anybody to know about this. I don't want to
be on TikTok, I don't want to be in a show,
you know, I don't want to be anywhere. Please. Confidentiality
is really important for them.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
A lot of people just want answers exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, they just want like is it my imagination or what.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Right we have our show? And the first thing we
ask is, you know, do you want any reliefs? And
if they're like no, then we don't.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, right, let me go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Normal.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
We do a ton of private pass.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
People local just calling and saying, hey, we need help,
and so we do a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Sure, no, I bet, I bet. Have you ever had
the situation where you have to tell them there's nothing here?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yes, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
And people are convinced by the way that I'm sure
that they're like, I'm sure there's a ghost here, especially
after reality shows where everything is a ghost, that you
kind of have to tell them like, no, no, it's
not you.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Know, yeah, and you know, one thing, you can go
to a location and nothing happens, and you can.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Go another time.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
And so we do tell people, you know, sometimes it
takes maybe two investigations, right, really get answers. But there
are there are cases that we've gone to and we've
been able to debunk all of the claims, and sometimes
it gives people a peace of mind.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
They're hoping for.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Something, that's what I'm talking about that they're they're like
and sometimes it's like, oh, you know you've got a
draft because you move something or your air ven did
you did you know something that's really simple? Yeah, but everybody's.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, yeah, old people.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
And they said that they were hearing scratching in the
walls and their their pets would react and growl at nothing,
and it turns out it was to the walls and
a lot of timetrical issues and things like that, and
so yeah, so we always try to go in and
debunk things and help someone explain what they think is

(34:34):
nice activity. Sometimes it has a logical explanation, and so
that's our goal is to try to do things out
before we go to paranormal inclusions.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Right right, which, by the way, I tell everybody because yeah,
that's sometimes really that is the objective of a paranormal
group is to tell you, yes, if you do have
a goose, but also to tell you no, you don't.
In other words, yeah, I know, it's I mean, the
supernatural is not a non demand thing. It's not like
you said, there's times that you could go there. And
it's like I was boring, but and you know, but

(35:09):
and I tell everybody, but I was doing investigations since
the nineties. And I said, by the time they called
somebody to go there, the family on their own had
already called them plumber, the electrician, the pesticide.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
And by the time they got somebody to go in there,
which really paranormal groups weren't really that the nineties late nineties,
they were at their rope set. They had nine times.
Now they hear, like you said, scratching behind the wall
or something. Everybody runs out and sleeps in the car.
It's a ghost for sure, you know, for sure to ghost.
Whereas before before the advent of the reality shows people

(35:43):
this was their last thing that they concluded, which is
that were they.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Didn't want to get out.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
They're like, oh no, no, no, no, they didn't want it
to get out. And they were like, you know, it
was like, okay, let's call that everybody. And it was
like after everybody cleared the electrician and the plumber and
everybody said, there's no problem with you're plumbing, there's nothing wrong,
there's no animal, you know, up there. Then they would
be and of course there was a lot of other things.
But now, but again getting back to that thing, A

(36:11):
good group tells people the good, the bad, and the ugly,
which a lot of times the good is like, no,
there's nothing here, maybe maybe residual, maybe you know. But
even then, it's a lot of times people there they're
primed and they they make things up instead of thinking, oh,
it's haunted. Have you, by the way, have you ever
run into dark cases that you went in there and

(36:34):
then all of a sudden when you're investigating it, it
gets a little bit sinister while you're there, Oh did
I lose you guys? If you can hear me, I
you guys froze all me come back if you can
hear me. I'm going to What I'm going to do

(36:55):
is I'm going to let me see if I can
get them.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Ah, let's see, Okay, yeah, I lost their camera. Hopefully
they will come back very quickly and I will bring
them back on and then we'll find out what they've
run into.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
On investigations. And there's a lot of interesting places out
in Alabama, a lot as far as historical places. But
like they were saying, even our house, you know, you
can have a house dating back maybe fifties, sixties, whatever,
and hou's this relatively modern. And then you get a

(37:37):
sighting of what like, either way you're dressed, I can
tell you're not from the fifties, you're older than that.
And here they come, they're coming back, They're coming back.
Come on, come on, come on, let me see if
I can get them back. They will need to connect
toga just let's see. Let's give them a minute. But anyway,
they you never know what happened on the land. You

(38:01):
never know what happened on that piece of land. And
people don't realize, you know, because we've modern times, we
are so used to everything being documented. You know, everybody
goes for this, and that's somewhere somebody takes a note.
You know, some and so bought this piece of land.
Somebody is so and so sold it, somebody out pulled
a permit, blah blah blah blah blah blah. But way

(38:22):
back nobody was doing that. It had to be something. Really,
let's see here we go. Can you guys hear me? Nope,
Let's see. Can you guys hear me, because if you
can nope, nope, they're not. No, let's see. Let me

(38:42):
see if they come back at stage, right, you guys,
if you can hear me, I cannot hear you. I
can't even see you. Your camera's not even working at all.
I don't know if they're having a problem with their
connection or it's their internet. But anyway, in the meantime,
back at the ranch, Okay, your camera's not there, and

(39:06):
you guys are coming in, go ahead, reconnect, you're gonna leave,
You're gonna leven come back in. Yeah, I think that's
what they're gonna do. You know what, you know what
I want to do. Say, Okay, let me know, don't
worry about it. I'm okay, I'm just talking. Let me

(39:27):
know when you're ready to come. I can hear you
really good. Now, but your camera's gone. I cannot see
you at all. Okay, they left, they'll be back. But anyway,
So anyway, getting back to the thing about that we
don't realize that a while back, and then not that
you know, not the seventeen hundreds, by the way, as
a matter of fact, what was it. I was reading
like this was in Florida, But I'm pretty sure that

(39:50):
this was across the board like in Florida. I think
it was nineteen seventeen. People died and you didn't necessarily
need a certificate of death, you know. In other words,
people died. Sometimes things happen and it's not like it
is now that somebody makes a record of it. Same thing.
People sometimes were on the land, and if you look

(40:12):
at historical records, or if you go to the township
or the county or whatever was recording land transactions or
who lived where, sometimes there's nothing there all right. Sometimes
there's nothing there, or it was an unofficial like, hey,
can I stay there on that land for a while
and off farm it, okay? Or work something out. Sometimes

(40:35):
you even had small communities, especially if you're talking these
big tracks of land, where they would just set up
a community even though it was technically owned by somebody,
but it was maybe hundreds of thousands of acres depending
and there was no official record of that small community
living there, you know, the houses of the town, the cemetery.

(40:56):
Then something would happen and people moved way or in
one case i've heard you know, there was a remember
this was a time where here we go, they're back. Okay,
you're here, just okay, okay there you whoa, Okay, here
we go. Can you hear me? If you can hear me,

(41:17):
you guys are frozen. I can see you now, but
I cannot hear you. And you are not moving.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
So anyway the meantime back at their aunt again, a
lot of things went on in land, which is why
sometimes you see apparitions or ghosts or whatever you want
to call them. That by the way, they're clothing. They
predate ify a lot where let's say, you know, hey,

(41:49):
this this subdivision they made this back in nineteen sixty
or nineteen fifty because there was people out there, or
we could go let's go with the UH with a
time period where people were immigrating across Let's say let's

(42:10):
say they were going out west, you know when the East,
depending of course what part of the United States were talking. Here,
they're going out west and they're traveling and they would
get attacked, you know, maybe by Indians, massacred, or sometimes
they would just get sick, and you had people that
you know, en route to where their destination was maybe

(42:31):
out West or whatever. A lot of times out West
wasn't that far west. It was just further west of
the east eastern coast of the United States, which is
where all the original major cities were. People just died.
They were traveling, you know, covered wagons or groups of people.
They just they died. Same thing. Here we go, let's

(42:52):
see a cross your fingers, guys, here we go.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I was no, don't worry, don't worry about it. Don't worry.
I was talking about you know that sometimes when you
see stuff on h in places where like what you
were describing Ashley, where you see an apparition that, by
the way their clothed, they predate the let's say the subdivision.
And I was commenting, you know that that happens a

(43:17):
lot of times. You'd have no idea what happened on
that land.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
And you know, one thing that's also kind of strange.
A couple I didn't experience this growing up in the house.
A couple of other people did.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
But they're a gun shot there you go.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Immediately after they would smell like the room would fill
with gunpowder. And so somebody a friend of my mom,
so that was like a historian was telling us that
during the time period, from what one of the clothing
that I described.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Right, their guns, you know, you'd have to like pack
them in the gun.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
That like modern day guns, when you hear, you know,
fire a gun, it doesn't fill the room with gunpowder,
but back then it would. And so okay, that kind
of tied into like that same time period.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
And I'd say that's a great tie in because that's
smell because people don't realize, like you were saying, we're
used to the bullet being in the chamber fire and
there you go. Can you imagine? Talk about you better
learn how to reload really quick. Yeah, So Craig, you
were you were talking about that. I had asked you

(44:26):
if you had ever gone into an investigation, either one
of you. Maybe you just let's say the homeowner whoever
it is, they're describing some typical haunted stuff, like you're like, okay,
well when you go in there, it's like, well this
is a little bit darker than just regular old dead
people or you know, what's going on there. Have you
guys ever had that experience?

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
We did. I was that investigation, but you were.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
I don't think I was there.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
The rest of our group was it's harder to actually
experience something that's really dark and negative and you know,
malevolent or anything. But our group has experienced a property
that definitely.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Was not more me personally though.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
I have been to a location and it was at
a place I wasn't there to be an investigator or anything.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
This was just me visiting the place and walking in.
You could feel something dark there, okay.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
And so it's hard to explain because it's not like,
you know, I experienced anything that felt negative, but there.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Was an energy there. But that is rare for us
to experience something that's really just evil.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I think we've experienced more evil former people than like
if that makes sense, you know, or more like negative
expirits that are just right, they're just not.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Happy, okay, right right.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
You know, and they make it known that they're not
happy at okay. But I've never really experienced anything that
I would say is evil, you know what I mean?
I mean that just but like we said, neither one
of us were on this particular investigation twice. But now
that family has long gone and there's no way for
us to get back into that.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
They moved out.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I don't think that house is even there.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
We actually tried to get in recently to see what
they do a fallow up in investigation house.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I think it was taken away by a tornado like that.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Okay, but that.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Particular location had a very dark history and it was
a private location, so I can't tear train details, but
it's had some really bad things happened there. Just from
our team experienced some pretty dark, dark like activity while
they were.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
There, and that darkness stayed for a long time.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah, sometimes I'm kind.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Of you know what when you mean after they left,
After they left.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
It's like, and I will say that the location I
was talking about earlier that I went and I could
kind of feel that just a darker energy. When I
left that house, it stuck with me. And sometimes it's rare,
but I feel like sometimes that type of energy, it
does kind of cling to you a little bit. And

(47:23):
so I remember, and I wasn't the only person that
experience system when we left.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
We both just immediately the same time, like you know,
talking about the way that that house felt, and we're both.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Like it is still with me, like that feeling it
just kind of stuck to me after a little bit,
it just kind of faded away. I've only had a
couple of times where I felt something either followed me
or kind of.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Attached right right, Yeah, And I guess my question was,
have you had you ever gone, you know, to some
place and you started and you realized we're out of
our depth, you know, as far as a group is like, okay,
all right, have you ever experienced that, as far as
or that it's like, oh, we can handle it. As
far as there's a certain level of negativity.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
We can handle it. Like I said, I've never really
really come across anything that's just like overtly evil, that's
like you need to leave. But we have been to
a location where we this is the way this was
uh with Birmingham Norman before we joined we merged with TESLUSA,
we did have one where two investigators quit that night

(48:34):
and have never been And it was a small trailer,
like a very small trailer. Oh yeah, and like off
the beaten path. There was like a Civil War graveyard
behind it.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
That okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
But there was a lot of weird things that happened
that night to me. So one of the claims that
the lady had was that she would hear someone growled
in her ear.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Oh that's wonderful growling.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Well, okay, let's start with the with as soon as
I walked in, as soon as I walked in that
small trailer, and I grew up trailers, so okay, and uh,
it felt like fingers just went down my face and
it was me I walked in the mini spiderwebs. Yeah,

(49:24):
like I could feel the fingers trailed down my face. Okay,
And I was like, like, was that? And it didn't
register immediately as what that was.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
And and then at one point I stepped onto the
porch to go get something from one of the trucks,
and something did go her like right in my ear,
like ride in my ear, where I did a double
step and random right. Okay, of course I came back.
But we were in the middle of an EVP session

(49:59):
and of our investigators, one of the females, was in
the back room of the trailer and said that a
little girl put her head out of the out of
the closet and then went back in and she would
not do another session. She she like, she went out.

(50:21):
She stayed outside the rest of the night, and her
husband was actually like being our cameraman at that time,
and as the night ended, we did and as well,
we actually did a sensory deprivation experiment. Okay, uh slice,

(50:41):
you know, pink hongballs on my eyes and my narrow
beats in my ears, and I was sure that somebody
on my team was rubbing their fingers on my legs.
It is like just rubbing their fingers on my legs.
And but I'm like, y'all stop. They y'all stopped. They

(51:02):
were they were like on the other side of the room, okay,
And I was like, y'all were not like playing for
my legs. And to this day, I've never felt that
sensation anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
At the end of the night, we decided to do
that old Civil War cemetery that was behind the hids.
So we went there and we were just doing an
investigation and uh, the female investigators husband at the camera
and we're in the middle of it, you know, doing
the VP sessions, and he starts hacking up. He's We're like,

(51:36):
what are you doing. He's like, we're gone, gone, and
We're like, what are you What's going on? He's like,
we're gone. Something something just just routed in my ear
you're gone gone, And of course we get the audio
back to the video back back and you hear right behind
her and it was he both of them have never
been on it.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
And you know what it is. Those Those are the
investigators that asked for the full Monty and when they
get the full Monty, they're like, I'm out of here.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
We're still friends, you know, yeah, yeah, but it's like.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You're not going on investigations.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
I will say one time I heard something brown kind
of like sounded like it was growling next to me,
but when my reporter.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
It was actually an EVP.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Okay to me.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
To my ears, it sounded like a growl, but on
the reporter it was actually like several words. And so
I saw that was me because I heard it differently
than my reporter.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Was okay, were you able to make out what the
EVP was saying?

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Yeah, And I can remember now I don't have it
on my computer, but.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I don't some EVPs. You listen to them, You'll have
people say and I listened to it as like I
don't hear you.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Know, Yeah, we got a really good one.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Okay, last investigation and it's probably the most clear one
I've heard, and I have gone through such an extensive
process of trying to debunk it. Every Yeah, okay, the
only people in the room, Like I watched the video
and linked it to the audio, and you can tell
none of us say anything, and and I checked. Yeah,

(53:19):
and I did like a analysis of it. It's on
a different frequency, Yeah, I did frequency, a different tone
and pitch and everything from any of what, Like I
compared our voices to this, and so it's actually going
to be on our coming episode. And so it is
just I think the best EVC I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Like I'm really both of us.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Yeah, let me tell you something. Sometimes it's it's really difficult.
And it's not that the that the EP is not valid.
It's just that for some reasons, some things are really
clear or like you said that one that's gravelly, it's
whatever it is, you just God, it's gonna be this.
It could be that it coulds like let me ask
you when in that trailer of that investigation, what you
guys experienced, did it correspond with what the people that

(54:06):
were there were describing.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah. The woman said that her that her son just
keeps seeing kids, seeing okay people, and they were just scared, okay,
and you know, they were very honest, they were very
They didn't have a lot of money, uh, you know,

(54:29):
so they could readily move, you know, so exactly to
you know, like say, yeah, you've got some stuff happening.
But but nothing was negative, nothing, you know, like I
seemed they were more to us, it was more curious.
A couple of the investigators that may have been a
little more serious, but but to us, it's like it's
you know, they're curious.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Let me ask you. How far away was that Civil
War cemetery from there?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Uh, I would say just maybe a thirty to thirty
five second walk. It was very close.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
That's not at all. That's nothing.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
And it had like an iron gate around it or
like around it to it was a and uh yeah,
it was only like a thirty second walk from there,
so it wasn't far at all at all. It was
close to a freeway. So when he heard that, we
were like, dude, it's just just the jake breaks on
the it's just trucks, you know. And right right, I'll

(55:28):
say the EV but we got audio bags like that
was And I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what you.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Know exactly exactly. Yeah, that growling will do it to you.
A growl will do that to you. That'll put that'll
put the fear of God in you.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
That was That was very three. Now we have also
had e vps that changed.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Oh yeah, and that's the only one time.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
But this is a really really weird thing that happened at.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Yeah no, h yeah, we never had anything happened like
this or but we caught an EVP really clear in
the report back to it.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Then then when we let some other people listen to it.
Then we just like a short time after that, we
listened to it again.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
The voice had changed, like it was completely different. Really,
I had a different device that also picked up the EVP,
but it was saying something.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Different on one device.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
It was really weird, Like we're like I even reached
out to Grant Wilson since the only person that I've
ever seen talk about.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
In VP changing like that, Okay, and he.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Kind of, you know, uh, explains some stuff, and it's
just it's really really weird.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I've never had an EVP change like that.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
That's like, that's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
The computer it was saying something different.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
It was I was like, what is going on here,
But I still I can't explain that was but could you?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Were you able to make out what it was saying,
what the EVP was, what it was saying.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Yeah, So on one of my reporters, it's saying right here, okay,
and then on my other recorder it's actually sounds like
it says behind you.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
That's totally different. Wow, I mean that.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Can sink them up. And you hear me kind of
like what follows, you know, the EVP follows.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
And so same exact moment. Yeah, one says behind you,
one says right here, and then it changed to right there,
and it is in the tone of the voice. One
of them is different whispering, and then the other one
it was a lot more loud.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
It was just I'm like, how is it happening?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
How? And one thing told.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Me is you know, he's only experienced it with like
an analog reporters. Weather or heat can come be distorted
a little bit, but this was. And so someone who
could explain how it changed the tone and the pitch
and also of the words, there was no way we
could explain that.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Unless you had a double EVP going on at the
same time and one piece of equipment picked up something
and the other one picked it up because it sounded
like what you're saying, was it was an intelligent response
or was it how's this? Did somebody make a have
a question that that was the appropriate answer, or did
you just pick it up?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:25):
You, Craig was actually downstairs. I was with another.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Investigator upstairs at the same time. We were both hearing
a female dissembodied voice. So we were hearing things and
then a door slammed. So I stand up and I
start talking to the other investigator, Heather, and I'm like,
should I check to see if that was them?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
It started?

Speaker 4 (58:50):
That's when the EVP picked up, and so it was
like it was trying to say right here, you know,
and so it was I feel like that was an
intelligent response, even though it wasn't trying to.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Pay here right, Okay, I see, I see the scenario.
Now why And I guess my question was because you know,
sometimes you have these e vps and you almost think
it's not intelligent. It's not. It's just something you pick up.
And then you have the EVPs which their response to
what either the situation or question that somebody said, or
even the conversation. Like you said that, people are talking

(59:25):
and they put their two cents worth in and you're like, hey,
you know, you don't hear it obviously, but then later
on you realize they're commenting about what the conversation is.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Go ahead, I have such a good one. There's an
old it's been torn down now, but it's an old
mental hospital and and we investigated there. This was when
we first started it and it was actually the first
thing that Birmingham Paranormal and Tescalusa's Paranormal had gotten together

(59:58):
years ago. And the place was called Bryce and it
was the old Bryce, so it was the mental asylum
and also a retirement or like a nursing home that
was connected to So we were there there and we
had two instances that are just insane. And number one,

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we were up on the third floor and this building
is falling down, you know, so it is it's very dangerous,
which is why people don't go. And we did have
permission from the police to go go. So we did
have permission. We never go, you know, we never break
into any place, so we did have police permission to

(01:00:42):
be there that night. So we were up on the
third floor and the duckwork had fallen down down, and
we had people along with a reporter from Tuscaloosa who
went along with us, and we were going to do
an EVP session. So everyone said, hey, well, you know,
we're going to sit on this duft work, and I like, damn,
I'm not gonna do that. So I like lean up

(01:01:02):
against the ball and we start the e VP session.
Everyone says their name, and we start the session, and
then all of a sudden, the duckt work gives out
and everbody falls on the ground and everybody's laughing and
all this, and so I get my reporter back and
you hear me say like, I'm going to stand here,
and then everybody starts seeing a session and then a
voice like up here, like like up up on the

(01:01:25):
ceiling goes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
The whole job, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
And it's as clear as it can be. And I'm
trying to find it. I actually today have a reader
for some old hard drives that I can plug in
and start getting huh. And I've got to find it.
But it's an old Southern It's it's insane, and yes,

(01:01:54):
it falls down and everyone's laughing. Back Earlier in the night,
we had a group that was including the reporter that
was at the nursing her character something like throwing like
little beady pebbles like Adison. And it's not like they
would fall here. They were like the head uh huh
going on here. And so we all stand up against

(01:02:15):
the wall and before we start any peak session, everyone
says their name. So uh, if we go down the road,
down the road, down the road, and then the reporter
says her name, and as soon without saying a voice
on the same level as us that we did not
hear goes forests.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
So all the names, that's an old fashioned name, let
me tell you, Craig, Laura, and and I love it
trying to find them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I've got to find these because we've got to put
them on our on our podcast. Well huh because and
I'm hoping they're on one of these hard drives.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
I'm going to look yes, yes, God, that's that's excellent
because that's I'm talking about that they're like they're hanging
out like okay, let me just I'll call out my name.
Why not? You know what? And the thing is that
in these asylums there's people that basically would live out
their lives and this was home to them, right, this
was home, you know. And I tell everybody because you know,

(01:03:19):
you always hear about these asylums about you know, they
were taking people and doing these experiments and you were
being held and in truth, what would happen is and
you really you know, yet you had the people that
were really violently mentally ill, you know, like then you
had other people just peculiar, eccentric, that had stuff, some
have been kicked in the head by a mule, stuff
like that. But what what happen is that when because

(01:03:41):
these places were always understaffed and too many people, so
when they would contact the family, if they could guess what,
they ended up living there because the families would never
come for them. So people don't realize. Everybody thinks that
these asylums were all they were holding people against their will,
and that's not the case. Most of most of the time,
they they had so many people they wanted to be

(01:04:02):
like so if there's a lot of times the families
would move away and not tell the staff, you know,
and even if the family was still at a certain address,
not all the time, but a good portion of the time,
the family was not interested in coming to get them.
You know, so they would end up living their lives
at these asylums, which is why a lot of these

(01:04:24):
the hunting is I want to say, not because they
had a traumatic death or anything. It's just that they
actually lived there, just about their entire lives there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Yeah, they did have a dark people were mistreated.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Oh yeah, no, no, that's you know what, It's inevitable
because like I said, there were they would be so understaffed,
and let's face it, the quality of the employees were
not exactly the best, if you know what I mean.
So that goes without saying. But yeah, a lot of
times they people like in other words, the families didn't
want to go through the trouble of picking up their

(01:05:01):
family members, so and they would get you know, uh,
that would happen. But I think that's that's great that
that Horrus, that's such an old fashioned name that it
kind of like stands out. That is what a great
story that is. But it is it is like Horrus,
Like I've been to the Talladega, the ones, the asylum Tala.

(01:05:24):
I've been there and they've they've restored a lot of it,
you know, and it's really funny because you know, when
you go into that main entrance where it was just
like a sitting room or what they call a parlor
where people there's no bars on the window. It's because
they didn't want people to start thinking of you know,
you're dropping off your family member where they're going to
be in prisoned. But then the rest of the place,

(01:05:45):
of course is barred up. It's full of bars. But yeah,
it's it's that's another place that it's inevitable you're gonna
have some type of activity there, just because so much
happened there. What right now would you say, of all
the places that you've been to, would be the most
interesting or the most the best investigation that you've done?

(01:06:08):
Location wise?

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I think we got the same. Oh no, what's yours?

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I mean Old Hospital is one of our favorites.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Okay, I think Old Hairman competes with that, not even
but we've only gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
To go there one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Honestly, the most recent location that we went to, that's
her house.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
I don't want to go back there was. That's one
that surprised me how much activity we got. But there's
another house here, the Drish House, and it's one of
my favorites because I always get activity when I go, Okay,
creepy level one of the hospitals.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Hospital, the hospitals will do it. Yeah, there's a lot
of weird stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
At the hospital. Yeah. The weird thing about is I've
had dreams of that hospital. I never dream about we investigate, uh,
dreams about the hospital, And when I walk in, it
could be a year that I haven't been there. There
and I not absolutely feel like I'm at It's like
I know it's corner. It is like almost walk in

(01:07:17):
and it's like like, hey, guys, I'm home.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
It's the weirdest feeling that I've held.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Holdes that hold is that hospital? What does it tap
back to?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yeah, let's see, it closed. I think probably in the.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Nineteenth eighties, eighties, all right, Yeah, we have the whole
history written up on and just off the top of
my head.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
But yeah, like maybe in the fifties or so.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
When it was established, but before the land itself has
a lot of history as well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Okay, the old hospital.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
That's one that that location does something for me too.
It gives me dreams. Like it's weird because leading up
to the investigation, I can't remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Yeah, tell me about that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Yeah, and I dreamed about something and then ended up
having that kind of a similar experience while I was there.
But the times i've been, I also have something that
follows me to like the hotel, because we always stayed
a hotel when we go and and I think it

(01:08:18):
was Heather, one of our other investigations investigations was general.
She said the same thing. It was like something was
in your room. So it's like after that first night,
something always follows you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
It goes right back that location.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
A yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
The fact that even in my dreams and I even
leaving there, I have these crazy, crazy dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
And that's so interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
And this is the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Only place, and I've heard other people talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Too that had a similar experience.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
And you know, I don't have dreams about other places.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
But the old South Pitsburgh Hospital for some reason, I'm
feeling called back to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
It had a big I mean, I've heard of old
of that hospital, But is it large? Is a large
area as far as.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Yeah, it's pretty large long and I can't remember the
sports footage, but I have that written down, but the large.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Now, the reason I asked you is that you know,
once upon a time, the older buildings they would have
staff that would live, like they would have buildings for
the nurses, which I'm sure they had their own drama
going on, so but I usually that was the older,
older stuff, brief nineteen fifties where they would just have
or if there were TV hospitals, you know, they would
have buildings for the staff, right, And I'm sure there's

(01:09:35):
a lot of stuff going on with the staff. So
I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead. What were you going
to say, Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Oh, just just the fact that it's just all almost
like wanting you to come back. Yeah, it's places where
you know they may not want you to come.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
They're like, okay, a weird draw to it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
You know we've been a few times for real activity.
Yes happened, but the second time a lot happened. We
went earlier this year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Really not a lot happened, and so okay, it's just
one of those locations.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
It's like there's something about it, but it's not like
always acting right right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Let me ask you considering it sounds like you've been there.
Is it a time of year or something weather that's
conducive to it, or nothing that you've seen a pattern
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
We've been there in the winter. We've been in the
summer spring, okay seven times. I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
I've heard that it's more active in the spring there,
but we've been in the spring.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
We went this past spring and nothing happened when we went.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
I think in the fall is when we have when
I experienced activity. There's when I've been in the book,
So we don't. I would not suggest going in the
summer because it is so hot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Right, there's what nowhere conditioning nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Wow, yeah, I think that's that's So. What are you
guys planning. Do you have any investigations that you're.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Planning born, Yeah, we have Lynchburg okay, Yeah, and that's investigation.
We're actually going to film that one and okay, that's
next month, I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Okay, we have we have a couple of events and
stuff and one thing with the Borgs House that we
just filed out this last weekend and we're actually and
there's in the talks of doing like some ghost tours there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
So we have a few things like that, and in
always we have private locations that pop up rinch here
and so, but Lynchburg is probably I think our next investigation, right, if.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
You don't realize Halloween, the fall is right down the road.
People don't realize exactly, you know, it's it's right there. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah me too. But yeah, I was born
in October. But still I like Halloween. The weather's cooler.
But you get you know, a lot of the tours
and things like that, and you're able to go to
some neat places, and you know, I think the best

(01:12:08):
thing is the people that really know the real history,
not the one that's out there. Like you know, you're
gonna give you the real skinny on it, right, Like
what was really happening here? Like the human how's that?
The human factor besides just the haunted stuff or the
you know, hey, we saw these ghosts, Like what was
going on? You know that, you know, the drama house

(01:12:29):
lack of a better word, because I think that's what
happens that. I'm sure you guys have have come across
this where you go into these buildings, especially if they've
been around for a while, and there's like something like
in the fabric of the place, the living that it's
not a haunting per se, but there's a flavor to
what was going on there one way or the other.

(01:12:51):
You know, either good bad or like you said, dark
or you're welcoming in some cases. And then you know
there's something that that uh, that happens where you go
to these places that have been around for a while.
Just the living. I guess when you have the living
living there a long time, you you find that that
has been great. So go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
I'm sorry. I think even sometimes like the living, you know,
the energy you put out, like the stone type theory,
that energy orbs into you know, the the walls, the ground,
the stone and and so there's a lot of places
you can go and it's maybe not necessarily like you're
gonna experience like coast activity. Yes, but that energy is there.

(01:13:37):
You can feel that. It's very residual.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
M yes. And yeah. I tell everybody you know, there's
places that you go to. I've even told people you
know that I've gotten houses is you know, you might
see it. It's all pretty and painted and if for example,
I'm going to use example, if it was ever used
as a sick room for a long toff time. I'm
not talking about and I'm not talking a hospital setting.
I'm talking like even a private home or something. You'll

(01:14:00):
have people that will at some point, especially if they
live there at some point even feel some of the
symptoms of whoever was there for an extended period of time.
And it's not that there's a ghost there, it's just that,
like you said, the stone tape theory, it becomes impregnated
and who's ever there. Even if they're not per se empathic,
they still start sometimes picking up on symptoms or dreams.

(01:14:25):
You know, they'll have certain dreams that they'll be like,
this is not my this is not my people, or
not my you know, where's this coming from? You know
that that's that's very common. People don't realize that that
that does happen, just like people don't realize that in
some states now you know that they've passed alongs for
stigmatized real estate in case, you know, there's ever been

(01:14:47):
like a shooting or a murder or something. And in
some states not all I don't I don't know particulars,
but some of them, even if it gets a reputation
for being haunted, they have to disclose this angel buyers,
you know, just in case.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
There was actually happened, we're not disclosed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Right well, and some it's like it's like really weird.
It's like they only have to disclose it if you ask,
But if you don't know to ask, you know, they're
not obligated to disclose it. Every state's got their you know,
their own real estate laws about that, because you know,
and then and then you go to one time I

(01:15:35):
was reading article and I was laughing because it was like, oh,
you want to pick up real estate cheap, you know,
go after the supposedly stigmatized properties because people wig out,
you know, even the skeptics are like, nah, I'll pass
on that one. That kind of deal is just in case,
just in case, you know, there's something still hanging out again.
Guys from my podcast listeners, what is the website they

(01:15:55):
can find you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
At we are at crash Media pair, normal dot com okay,
and on YouTube cra well, we're Crash Media Paranormal on
all platforms. On YouTube our champion have a channel and TikTok,
but our new websites you can go with click on
each episode. Also click on each of our podcast episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Let me answer you think, what you do you have
the podcast and what on YouTube? What what do you have?
Do you have the places where you go to investigate
or the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Interviews we have basically three things that that Okay, we
have our series episodes like Old Harryman Hospital, Old South Hospital.
That's our you know, investigation edited basically a TV show.
We have our podcast that's that we do just for fun.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
We also recap some of the episodes and you know,
talk about things about old movies, you know, things that
we're interested in. We do something called one minute those
stories and that's mainly for our TikTok channel and things
like the.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Short and we have a few live stream there as well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
But if you go to our channel conversations with crashes
or podcasts and then just the one to say, like
episode one Moody Mansion, like that's our.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Sorce that we do and so and that's the one
that features our investigations. Was like the evidence presented.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
And everything before I forget what do you guys think
what I was talking about at the beginning with AI
robotics and then becomes sentient and having a soul and
then before you know what, you're being haunted by your robot.
I'm just being you know, but you know that we're
going down that road exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I am one hundred and twenty five percent science fiction fan.
I love science, so I cannot wait to have a
little robot run around. Yes, not wait. If he turns evil,
I'm just gonna hunt kick him out of the house.
But I'm not scared of Okay, it can be a

(01:18:03):
little uncanny valley, but okay, that's not something that hasn't
you know. I'm more excited about it than anything else.
I want to roll up that, you know, just how around.
I almost see three people walking through my house.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
That's but you know, well, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Seem like we've we've been warned.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
And I don't know if I but.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
You know, as far as like AI advancing to the
point of becoming sentient, you know, AI is progressing so fast.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
I see how it could even when you can have
a whole exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
And ask if it even it's even aware of it
being AI. And it's like, you know, it starts starting
like diving deep within its own existence.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Right self aware almost you want to say, for lack
of a better word, it's it's not just computer you
know information that's you know, fed in there. And just
asked me a question. It's like, well, was it that
like a couple of weeks ago they said that they
did it on purpose, just to test it, but basically
it was going to blackmail one of the people that
was running it because he had put information that he

(01:19:14):
was having some type of extramarital affair and they kind
of were talking, I guess, feeding information that they were
going to turn it off, and it kind of was
trying to blackmail him, like hey, I'll let them know
that you have been doing that. And I was like,
you know, that's really like that's a little bit okay.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
It's like they can create their own code now to
override shut down.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
And right, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
One thing I think about is spirits can manipulate like
the equipment that we use. They can the energy and
communicate through novelist devices and things like that. Who's to
say spirits can't use AI and figure out a way
to manipulate that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Mom, Hey, you know what last week I was talking
to my guests and we were talking about the same thing,
and he goes, well, you know that spirits attached themselves
to dolls, why can't they take over robots? Like oh god,
that'll be like you know, you're here hitting the off
button and it's not working. You know that kind of deal.

(01:20:20):
Or you know how people now even get wigged out
because they think they're you know, they're smart devices are
listening to them. Here's your robots standing in the corner
looking at you, and you're like what, because that's something
about us humans. It's like, it's great when I have
a lot of heavy lifting to do, but you're winding
me out there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Yeah, I believe Alexa will be a October. So the
really version of Alexa's going to be upgraded, and I
think all of them will be upgraded.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
A conversations eventually, human brains are going to be and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
You know, and they're also okay, I speak Spanish, English,
Norwegian and I'm learning French, so me and chat. You know,
I'll just say, you know, and you know I have
Norwegian conversation or you know, so great, it could be
great tools for language learners and and everything else. That's

(01:21:17):
great practice. And you know that that just adaptability.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
To don't get me wrong. As far as information accessing,
information lists just information that once upon a time, before
let's say the Internet, you had to go to the library
and bury yourself there for two months to get what
you can get two minutes. Yeah, exactly, that part. Believe me,
I'm pro and you know, and the even you know,
with the phone. I remember I was alive when there

(01:21:43):
was nothing, you know, but I can't help. Also, you
know that it stifles maybe creativity. How's that? Yeah, you
know that's the part. I think that there's certain things
that we got to be cautious about, you know, as
far as what it does for humans. And then like
like I said, we'll go down the uh, the rabbit

(01:22:05):
hole down there that as they make them more human
looking so that we don't that we kind of forget
that they're robots, you know, do we end up you know,
all my old robot Toby went, you know, I had
to scrap them. But now I keep seeing Toby walking
around my my house. It's like, okay, why not? All right, guys,

(01:22:26):
thank you so much. It's been great to talk to you. Guys.
I want to wish you the best of luck.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
You've enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Likewise, take care bye bye. Yeah. Let me tell you something.
You guys might think that's really far fetched, Marty, It's
not far fetched. It's not far Let me turn on
a fan yau that's got a little bit hot in here.

(01:22:54):
I'm a little fan over here. But yeah, it's coming.
It's coming down the pie and fast. It's like coming
down the pike of how's this. It's coming down the
pike hard fast, it's picking up speed as it goes along.
And you know what, And I guess the reason why

(01:23:15):
I'm saying this is that I've been alive long enough
where robots or stories about robots or robots this or
robot that was strictly sci fi, you know, sti fi
or you know, like I said, Blade Runner, and it
came out, the original Blade Runner, the original Terminator. It

(01:23:37):
was like wait, you know, oh, remember these movies came
out pre Internet. But even then, you know, you always thought, yeah,
there's gonna be robots, and you know, the computers were
like in a room. And of course it's gone by,
it's just picked up speed. But when I read that
article that I read that from that Chinese inventor, right, whatever,

(01:24:01):
it's it's gonna need to be there. Now. The question is,
obviously at some point you think, okay, this robot can
be smarter than me, can it overpower you? Why not
let's go down that road. You know, is it going
to be something that's great? Because because think about it.

(01:24:22):
If if it's strong enough to do certain household activities
and I'm just this is just me. Maybe not. Will
it be strong enough that you if you wanted to
overpower because it went berserko and please don't tell me
it can't because I saw the video that came out
like about a month ago. Anything mechanical can go berserkle.

(01:24:45):
It can have a short circuit, something goes wrong, you know,
you get I don't know the the circuit, there's humidity
and whatever, but it happens. Nothing's perfect. Can can you overpower?
Can you you know what not gets head off? Or
is this then gonna stance, you know, stomp on you

(01:25:07):
and the next thing you know, you know, you and
your family make the headlines and all that kind of deal.
That's something that's some people think, Oh wow, you're way
out there, Marlene. Who'say, Yes, this is stuff that we
have to think about, because the truth is, I really
don't know. Initially, I'm thinking that a lot of these
robots that they're if you see where this is going,

(01:25:30):
because if that article basically it's talking about how this
robot can cook for you, So you know that where
we're heading with this is household duties they're heading as in,
everybody has a robot? Okay, this is not like so
if everybody, I mean, are we gonna have it? Or

(01:25:52):
is it only deep pockets? But the feeling I guess
that eventually they're gonna make it, you know how the well, no,
most a lot of people don't. But once a ton
of time, you know, to have a phone, they had
to do a credit check on you, and it was expensive,
and sometimes you would get phone bills up be like,
oh my god. All right, Then little by little by little,
it just became more accessible. Who's kinda puno. It's like

(01:26:13):
you could walk in there now and just get a
phone and get a But what I'm saying is that
you see where eventually, even though you might need a
lot of money to get the first models, as time
goes by, it'll be they'll become more affordable. And you know,
who would not want one, especially if you're older, or
you're impaired, or just hey, if it's going to do

(01:26:36):
all the hard work and nobody wants to do the
housework or whatever, you could see where it will sneak
in to just about every household. The flip side of
it is what is the real price that we would
pay for that would it be listening to everything? Plus

(01:26:58):
remember the we'll call it the eyes are really cameras
basically spying on you. I know I'm not being paranoid.
I'm talking about you know, if anybody did the same
way with the bluetooth, you know they can be even
now what they do now that they're listening or seeing

(01:27:19):
what you're seeing, just like they do that they scrape
all this information off the Internet or what you're doing
or what you're seeing, or they even say the phones whatever.
You know that basically now you have something in the house,
which is even if you house this, even if you
pull a switch that says no, this thing cannot transmit

(01:27:42):
any information out, that doesn't mean it can't that there's
no hidden device. So I'm saying we have to I
think we have to think good and hard the what outweighs,
what the benefits versus the the risks. And yes, I
think some they're gonna be obvious. Like I said, you
know something that goes berserk, Oh, and then you're like,

(01:28:03):
I'm trapped in my house with a berserk robot. And
then there's a hidden risks which are I have something
in my house that's recording every little thing that's going
on in my house, the conversations, what's going on, who's
running around, who's doing this, who's coming there, who's coming
to visit my house? You know, what we're cooking for dinner,
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then we'll

(01:28:27):
go to the inevitable, which is basically and by this
this is this is before me going into sentience, okay,
because there's people that say, yeah, robotics can do this,
but they're never be going to become sentient. Okay, I'm
talking about we're not even talking there. You're gonna have

(01:28:49):
basically something that's recording everything that's going on in your house, whatever, good, bad, ugly.
You know, I fight an argument intimate stuff. You know
what we're watching whatever, you know, whatever we're having for
Just remember, at the end of the day, you know
a lot of times it's, let's face it, not everybody.

(01:29:11):
Most people live kind of like normally like boring lives.
What I mean boring boring in that contextuff, But just
for the same reason that they scrape information about us
now to find out what what are people watching, what
are people eating, what are they doing, what are the
expectations for their conversations? What about politics? What do they think?
Or what you know? That deal? Hey, are they going

(01:29:31):
to be moving? Man? Man, we need to hit them
up with some real estate ads all that stuff. Okay,
but again it comes to what's it going to do
for the down the road? Again is what it does
to our creativity? What does it do to our spontaneity?

(01:29:52):
What does it do to Some people say, well, you
know what if I had a robot that did all
my housework, then I could go go out and jog,
or I could go to the gym, or I could
do this stuff that now I don't have the time for. Okay,
but really you think that again we have to be

(01:30:13):
that's a very slippery or like even now, hey, I
don't need I don't need to know how to do multiplication.
I don't need to memorize multiplication tables or know how
to do long division because I got a calculator, or
even back then, I've got a robot that I can say, Hey,
whatever the name of the robot, because they're all gonna
get names, by the way, you know that, right, I

(01:30:33):
don't care if it's the DS two hundred it you know.
You know, once upon a time, back in the nineteen eighties,
there was such a thing called the Cabbage Patch Kids,
which were the ugliest dolls, but they became the rage.
Why because each doll okay was supposed to be individualized,
came with the person ticket, with its own name. It

(01:30:55):
was individualized. So you better believe take it to the
bank that these robots, by the time they hit the
normy's houses, they're going to be given some type of
name or you'll or you'll register the name for your
robot or something to give it its identity. Right, what's
it going to do with our ability to think our
ways out of problems or find solutions. If Toby over

(01:31:18):
there in the corner, all you have to go is
Toby blah blah, ask him a question. You don't think
that's going to be a downside to that. We're going
to be a bunch of like, uh, let me use
one of my ten dollar words, ignoramus. We're going to
be like not because let's face it, this is even now.

(01:31:43):
I'll give you for instance, you know, audible is a
big deal. You know, you listen to the stories I myself.
I've done it, not all the time, but sometimes. But
I'll tell you what, when you actually read, and I've
been a reader all my life, this is how you learn.
Punch you grammar, sentence structure. You know, especially you know

(01:32:06):
hopefully that you're you're you're reading half decent material. As
far as the quality of the writing, you know, this
is this you learn. You expand by actual reading, not
listening to it, is my point. Yeah, it's great, but
when you read, it is when you develop your comprehension
skills and vocabulary and you all that boring stuff grammar.

(01:32:31):
So what do you think is going to happen when
you've got a machine that does not only the heavy lifting,
it does the heavy lifting for you mentally? All right?
I know there's a bunch of people runn around. You
take a calculator away from them and you give them
a long division problem or fractions or god forbid algebra,

(01:32:54):
basic algebra, and they'll be like, h then what and
I'll feelize like And again, don't get me wrong, I
the idea for me is great because I could see
the advantages of it, But I still see the how's this?

(01:33:17):
I see where some people will realize, yeah, I have
maybe this robot that is like a tool. How's that
it's a tool and it'll make my life easier. I
can even save even for older people, you know, they'll
have somebody that will do stuff that maybe they physically
couldn't do. And I'm sure there's going to be some

(01:33:37):
type of thing health where they could you know, like
put here and they'll be able to get you know,
your blood pressure, some your sugar or whatever, like old
people edition of the robot. Anyway, Yeah, there would be
people that will realize this is useful, and but I
know that I can't depend on it one hundred percent.

(01:33:59):
There's other things that I need to know how to
do by myself. What if that robot wasn't here? And
then there's a good portion of us, especially the more
that they'll just be like this is great. They become dependent.
How's this on robotics. They become totally dependent on robotics. Okay,

(01:34:21):
And let me give you for instance, everybody now knows
that you know, let's say farming big ag agriculture. You know,
they've got these tractors and everything is on a system,
you know, as far as whether it's seating and fertilizer,
and you know, they've got these huge sprinklers, and you know,

(01:34:41):
and a lot of times you realize, Okay, they're doing
this because there's such a vast amount of land that
has to be cultivated that this obviously, this is better
than a plow on a horse. My question is, which,
by the way, I believe there's a there's a shortage
of farmers or the average age of farmers sixty something
like that. Would any of these farmers if they had

(01:35:05):
to and they said, we're taking away your tractor, and
we're taking away your sprinkler system, and we're taking away
all these gadgets that you do, would you still be
able to cultivate not the whole you obviously not the
but would you be able to form it on a
couple of acres three acres, we'd be able to grow it.
Do you know what to do? That would be would

(01:35:25):
be the question. And we took this robot out of
there is the reason down the pipe that I'm getting
to even though, which, by the way, to me is
the dystopian that we become so dependent on having this
robot in our household or maybe even at stores or
wherever they're at because they're going to be taking Oh,

(01:35:45):
it's going to be just not the house. Are we
going to become so dependent on whatever does for us
that we will put up with things that we shouldn't
have or we shouldn't because we're so lazy or scared
or fill in the blank. What do you think? What

(01:36:06):
do you think is going to come down the road
with the robotics in the air, And I'm not even
going down the road of sentience? And does it have
a soul? Will it get a soul? And afterwards will
and haunt you? I'm not even going there. That's that's
like where you never know. But I'm not even there yet.
Forgot it? What do you think? What do you think
is going to be the what our lives are going

(01:36:27):
to be like? Which I'm telling you again, at the
rate this is going within less than ten years, will
be there. Within less than ten years, we will be there,
all right. As far as what are the trade offs
you know, for for that, for having that help, what's

(01:36:50):
that for having the convenience? There's always a trade off.
There's always a quid pro quol clarife. Yeah, we'll give
you this handy dandy, helpful robot that will you know,
even tell you what time it is. But in exchange
for what the question? What is the what again? Guys?

(01:37:12):
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(01:38:24):
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(01:38:48):
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(01:39:09):
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(01:39:52):
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