Lines in the Sky | Interview with Russ Tanner | Podcast - Stories of the Supernatural

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So how's everybody doing good? I hope everything is good
here as you could tell, I'm a little bit under
the weather. So for those of you asking if I
was gonna do the Halloween live stream. I'm not. I'm
going to pre record it because I have a feeling
that might need to do some editing along the way.
But I am going to release it on Halloween for anybody. Yes,
normally I was planning to do the live stream, but no, no, no,

(01:29):
I don't want to be having to edit for every
time I have to cough for sneeze. How's that so? Yeah?
But yeah, otherwise than that, Halloween is on. Everything is good.
We're coming down to the home stretch around here. The
weather is starting to cooler, even in Florida. And besides that,
everything is good. I mean tell you something, I'm welcoming.
I'm welcoming the cool temperatures. I'll tell you that much.

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I'm ready for it. How's that now? I wanted to
You know, we always look at recent things that are
going on in the world, and this story really doesn't
have that much to do per se with with a
paranormal Okay, but uh, it's interesting. It's an interesting Uh,

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it's an interesting story. Hell's that? And I'm sure most
people have heard about that. They basically they robbed the louver,
you know, and it's it's really funny, because you know,
we always think of these museums, especially a place like
the Louver, which I'm sure has got so many priceless objects,

(02:31):
as having the most, the best, the highest, the most
wonderful secure security systems. I guess that's that's not accurate.
But now check this out. This is out of the
New York Post says French museum was robbed of two
thousand gold and silver coins hours after the one million
dollar Louver heist. Okay, now, a second French museum was

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rated by thieves just hours after the brazen hundred million
dollar heist at the Louver. About two thousand gold and
silver coins, some two hundred and thirty five years old,
were swiped from the Messon de lu Maire, the House
of Enlightenment in Landres, when it was closed. Employees discovered
the coins were missing when they returned to work on
Tuesday and found a smash display, but they soon realized

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that burglary was actually on Sunday, the same day as
the one hundred million dollars heistoned pairs some three hundred
miles away. The coins worth more than one hundred thousand
dollars were stolen with great expertise. Local officials noted that's
an understatement. They were part of the city's private collection
and date between seventeen ninety and eighteen forty. They were
initially discovered in twenty eleven during renovation at the museum,

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which is dedicated to the French philosopher Dennis Duroux did Dearoe,
I'm sorry. The raid remains under investigation, with experts wanting
that the loot from such rates is typically melted to
be resold as precious metals. You know what, maybe or
maybe it's going to somebody's private collection, because I imagine
that be on. Maybe the worth in the whether it's

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the metal or the sover is the antiquity, the antiquity
part of the coins. Come on, this is too much
of a coincidence. Somebody knocks up the loof and at
the same time they steal this. Somebody is out there
as like combing their nose at the French authority saying,
wait a minute, two for the price of one. So

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let's see. And I was hearing something that from the
loof Highs they have recovered some DNA. But let's see
what happens that maybe something it might turn out to
be nothing, especially if there's no match. Now, let's swing
over a little bit something. Also a little bit. This
is also I have the New York Post and this
is titled seventy percent of people who have a near

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death experience make this change even more than getting a divorce.
I didn't know that one about the NDEs, but anyway,
they were at death store and open a window to
a whole new world. About fifteen percent of severely ill
patients report and during a near death experience or nd
which may mean having an overwhelming out of body sensation

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and encounter with a dead loved one, a vision of
a bright light, a rapid review of their lives, smilestones,
or a profound sense of peace. To figure out how
people deal with NDEs, researchers at the University of Virginia
surveyed one hundred and sixty seven individuals who said they
had one. One major coping mechanism stood out among the rest.
Almost seventy percent of participants report a shift in the

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religious or spiritual beliefs and their fears of death in
the aftermath of their nd My end was considerable. One
participant wrote in the questionnaire, I know I'll never be
the same person, ever, so ongoing reflection in a work
are needed daily. Others used the concurrence I'm sorry the
occurrence to reevaluate their personal relationships, with over twenty percent

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reporting divorces or breakups and even more weathering relationship challenges
or breakdowns, and isolation and loneliness were recurring themes among
ND sufferers. Survey participant called their ENDY a double edged sword.
It was an incredibly transformative experience that they had kept
themselves for fear of being judged. The researcher said. Sixty

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four percent of participants reached out to mental health professional,
spiritual advisors, or online communities, with seventy eight percent finding
the support helpful. The more intense the ND, even more
likely the patient would be to seek help. The problem
is that many had trouble finding suitable support. One church
told a participant we don't do that here, and difficulty

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discussing your experience when they did obtain help, all right,
blah blah blah. Now this obviously is going to become
more common with all the methods are to resuscitate somebody
before you know. In other words, they have so many

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they've so many techniques to you know, keep somebody breathing
their heart, you know, even the defibrillators, ways of keeping
a personal life. Whereas for a few years ago, that's it.
There was a certain threshold that they weren't going to
come back. So obviously, yes, I believe there are more
people with NDS. My only problem with this study that

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they cited was these were self reports. In other words,
this was these one hundred and sixty seven person said
they had an ND all right, and I'm not saying
that they were lying, But how do you know they did?
How do you know those participants really did have that?
I don't know. I know that doctor Moody years ago

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was the first one I think that delved into that
as far as but I think he was doing it
for people that had actually been in the hospital or something,
in other words, had had a medical emergency and they
were thought to be gone and then they came back.
But again, but otherwise, yes, I had heard of that
that it does change you. I've even heard that people

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that were nasty don't become un nasty. Things like that,
But something to consider, all right, because you know what,
there's more to us and meets the eye. Believe it,
it is now let's get on to the good part.
The good part is who is the guest here at
Stories of the Supernaturalist? Is his first time here. His
name is Russ Tanner. He's a forty something year old

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male born in New York, raised in Florida, but living
in Maine, and educated as an electronic technician. He has
an associate's degree in ISSET license. He is work includes
designers of embedded systems, which are small, selfs contained computer systems,
technical director for lighting and sound for theater, and an
herbal nutritional researcher and slash co writer. He's been successfully

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self employed since nineteen ninety seven. So, in other words,
he's a computer programmer, a website designer, musician, sound engineer,
and IT manager. Okay, now, his health is suffering daily
from chemtrail spring and that's what we're going to talk
to him about, because I think now is that people
are really starting to become aware exactly that it's happening

(09:01):
and what are the effects on it of it. Help
me welcome him? How are you doing today, Russ? Men?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
But you know, enduring. I've been enduring for a long time,
so it's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
On the contrary, let me ask you, how did you
Because I'm reading your bio and you sound like a
real tech you for lack of a better word, all right,
you sound like an analytical tech type, even though you
do have a creative side. How did you come across
this information as far as the CEMP trails or the
impact it has on people?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, it was thrust on me. Actually. I was living
in Western New York and Jamestown, New York in two
thousand and five. Okay, I live in May now, and
suddenly one day I might I'd to view out my
office window because I work from home, and I could
see the whole town from my window. I could see
the sky at a really nice view, and I started
seeing these lines across the sky one day, all of

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a sudden, And I've been a SkyWatch my life. I
was in as a kid. I was into jets, rockets.
I collected pictures of jets. I could tell you the fighters,
the military fighters, and commercial jets, and I was into
all that. And I'd never seen a trail come out
of a jet ever in my life, except for at
an air show where they do it intentionally. So it
was thrust upon me because this one day in November

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two thousand and five, I started I saw these lines
start forming across the sky beneath behind planes, and this
was really really unusual for two different reasons. The first
reason was that in Jamestown, you don't see planes in
the sky because there's no big airport. The only airport
they have can only handle small you know, small planes.
I can't handle the seven thirty seven or typical commercial jet,

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so you would never see jets in the sky. But
all of a sudden in November two thousand and five,
there were all these low flying jets that came across
in this one day, all of a sudden, and I
started tasting metal in the air, very very strong, started
burning my sinuses. I got ahead, I started sweating. I
had three employees at the time, they all worked out

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of my house, and we have an employee meeting at
the end of every day, and I canceled the meeting.
I said, I feel absolutely horrible. I don't know what's
going on, but there's I'm tasting metal in the in
the air, and I went outside. My two employees stayed
after work, and we're looking at all the trails in
the sky. Saying like, what is what is this? What's
going on? And I'm like, can you guys taste the metal?

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And two of my three employees could taste it, okay,
but a large number of people cannot. So that was
my big introduction to.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
It, right that that you thought, okay, and I understand
what your name is. Where I live, I don't have
a major airport. All there are. All there is is
like a small airport, you know, for private planes and
things like that. So again, like you said, something like
that will catch your eye if you see that happening.
How far now that you've done some research on it,

(11:55):
how far back have they been doing the same with
the Coum trails.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, it's started happening in mass in nineteen ninety five.
Between two nineteen ninety five and two thousand and five
is when people started reporting it in large numbers and
cities across the United States. So during that ten year
period is when it was really rolled out. Before that,
there were a few people that I know who lived
like near skunk works or military operations where they actually

(12:21):
saw them before that period of time. Okay, but those
there's like only a couple places that I have any
reports of people seeing it before then, and of course
me as a skywatcher, I mean all the through elementary school,
all the way up.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
There's a lot of people that don't do that.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Of course, I lived in the busiest airspaces in the world,
you know, I grew up in the Tampa Bay north
of Tampa Bay, lived in Rockville, Maryland for a while.
I mean you could look up and never, never, there's
never where there wasn't a jet in the sky, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yes, yes, And that's the thing that I think more
like I said, yeah, people will look up, but even
then they don't would you Just described was like, wow,
that's weird, these jets and this trail. And then all
of a sudden I taste that, you know, if you
live in a city, forget it, you're never going to
catch on to that. But which is? And then I

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had heard that some people think that it's it's I
guess what shoots out of the plane's engines is spelling it.
And I've heard that that's not accurate.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, no, this is a lie that the government's telling people.
I mean, I've known about this stuff for years. I mean, I,
like I said, I was into this stuff when I
was in you know, seventh grade, and I just learned
and learned and learned. I was, you know, a guy
who loved science and technology, special aviation. I actually worked
on getting my pilot's license years after. I never finished

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it though, But nevertheless, and the amount of water that
comes that's processed by like let's say seven forty seven
engine it processes it uses about one gallon of gas,
not water, gas. It uses about one gallon of gas
every tenth of a mile. Now some of these, you know,
these trails, Now these days the trails are thinned out.

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At least in my area, they're almost gone. So it's
the whole A lot has happened in the last twenty years.
But nevertheless, the initial trails were huge, and when you
looked at them in the sky, you would see that
the trails would be maybe two or three times, if
not four or five times the width of a seven
forty seven's wingspan, which is about a football field. A

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few seconds after the trail was released, well, we have
to ask ourselves, can a gallon of gas produce enough water?
Because they're saying that this is frozen water stretched out
over a tenth of a mile to produce that much
of opaque fog, of opaque substance. It's ridiculous. The cover

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story of them saying that these are contrails is like
most propaganda, when you look at it closely, it just
unravels and it right.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
When you do the math. Yeah, and they're hoping a
lot of people will take it at face value. Like
when they give that explanation, it's like, oh, okay, I understand,
but not everybody does what you just said. It goes
wait a minute, that doesn't figure right. You know, how
does that work exactly?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I've never heard anybody say that before. I mean, I
don't know why people so this has tried my contribution
to this whole cause because it makes me sick, and
I'm very frustrated that my life has changed. My business
partner is suffering from it. Everybody I know suffers from it.
Whenever they hit us hard, the people feel it. People
get headaches, nausea, and they can't smell or taste it.

(15:29):
I do smell and taste it. I know a lot
of people who do, but the majority of people do not.
But for me, it's very strong. I mean, I have
a very sensitive, not with everything sense of taste and smell,
but for metals and the types of stuff they're spraying.
For some reason, I'm very sensitive to that. And we
do research herbal and nutritional research. That's what our company does.
That we found it back in nineteen ninety seven, so

(15:51):
I learned we did some research on this. Why are
some people so hyper sensitive with the taste of sense
and smell. Well, it tends to be people who have
been exposed to very high cortisol levels when they were
young for years, and these people develop hyper senses of
tastes as well. Maybe it's a defense mechanism. We really
don't know, but this is what the science has found.

(16:11):
And I definitely all the people I've met kind of
grin at me when I say that present that research
to them because they're like, yeah, that's me. I had
a very stressful childhood.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, I was gonna say, that's stressful. That develops hypervigilance,
It does a lot of stuff that comes with that.
With that that it almost becomes second nature, for lack
of a better word.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right it is. Yeah, even as I sit here, it's
in the air right now, it's it's hard, it's burning
my sinuces the metallic taste. Sometimes I'm wincing without even
trying because the taste usually I cover. I have to
cover my mouth in my nose most of the day.
But even now as I sit here, it's just and
this is let me.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Ask you something. Is it just all airlines or certain airlines?
Is it passengers or cargoes? Because I'm thinking, and this
is just me, I'm thinking, if you've got a jet going,
whether it's cargo passenger, going from point A to point B, big,
I imagine they can't deviate or really think the scenic route.
What have you found as far as who does that

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or who takes the pains to do that?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, well as someone who can smell and taste it.
You know, I did the research. I did three years
of continuous time lapse, almost absolutely continuous. Ended up with
massive amounts of pictures that I assembled into videos using
my tech skills. But here's the thing that I found
is that the commercial jets do not produce the taste

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and odor of stuff in the air. They produced trails,
and they started producing trails at the same time military
jets did. What I have found is that it's and
you can track and tell whether a jet is military
or commercial by looking at flight Radar twenty four or
there's another service, and the jets that do not have

(17:50):
transponders are military. And what I found, yeah, I found
yeah exactly. And I found that the military jets are
the jets that that are really really producing the taste
and odors. The commercial jets when they pass by, they
leave the trails, but they don't. And so it seems
to me, and I've done of course, the research goes deep, deep,

(18:11):
deep on this, and I've been in this for a
long time. It seems to me that they had to
fool the public. This is a program. They had to
fool the public. And if the public would see military
jets producing trails in the sky, but they would see
commercial jets not producing trails, any intelligent person would say, well,

(18:31):
that military jet is really just a mod like the
US tankers. The US tankers use modified Boeing seven sixty seven,
thirty sevens and DC nine. Well, these are all commercial
jet airframes that use the same engines. So if we
see a military DC nine going by, we see it
every day, they're going by, and it's producing a trail.

(18:51):
And then we see a commercial DC nine go by
and it doesn't, I believe the public would become very aware,
very concerned about that. Plus we have all these people
getting sick and all the side so many other things
that we found, and all the metal in the air
and the water and dust tests that we've done. Besides
all that, people would ask ask questions. So it seems
to me that in order to kind of convolute this issue,

(19:13):
they started telling the public, Oh, these are just general
contrails and they've been there forever. In fact, here's some
old news stories saying the sky was covered with them,
and this is pure propaganda. I've been I'm not as
my bio said, I was forty something. I'm actually sixty
one now, so maybe that's a really old bio. So
I've been doing this a long time. I've been a
skywatcher for a long time, and I've never seen a

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trail come out of my jet out of a jet,
and I watched the sky and was in the busy
stare spaces in the world for most of my life.
So they it all of a sudden started happening in
my area in two thousand and five, and it was
immediately accompanied with a taste and smell.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
What do you think is the purpose behind it? What
is triving this? Is it just to sicken the population?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think it's population reduction. I think there's I think
I can identify two purposes. Number one, it must be
population reduction. And the reason I would say population reduction
is because if you read the memoirs and the books
of some of the real deep leaders, the Henry Kissingers
and the people, the people who have more influence than presidents, yes,

(20:21):
you learn that they wrote books that were for public consumption,
that would push the idea over and over again that
the world was overpopulated and we needed to reduce population. Yes,
this was Obama did this.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Eugenics, members of the Roads, Roads, and Babian Society, all
of them, even coming up one hundred years ago. Absolutely
they were talking. That was, you know, in between the
ooh stuff. They were talking about, Yeah, we're over populated
and we got to like bring down the population. And
I believe I can't remember who was it that meant

(20:54):
said something about that decimation of a population is easier
sickness versus then a war than a war encounter. All right,
obviously think about it unless yeah, unless you have a
war on your home country. You know, you know, only
part of your population is getting to get this, and
maybe as if you send the soldiers off to another country,

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But if you want to get rid of everybody in
that area, the way to do it is through sickness.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, plus plus the same people. When you start drawing
the lines and who owns the medical industry, who profits
from it, who profits from military contracts, You draw the
lines back to a very small group of people, and
they actually have the power to do something and pull
something off like this, and also to actually add something
to the fuels of commercial jets that would make the
commercial and the military jets all do this at the

(21:46):
same time. So you don't you would need.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Some type of power base in order to do.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
That, and they have. They have the power base absolutely.
And that's that's where a lot of people stumble is
the are like, well they couldn't pull something like this.
Is that, Well, you don't understand the structure that we
live under. They can and they do it all the time.
The other thing, so we have depopulation. Of course, you
don't spray mercury. I mean we know what they're spraying
for the most part. There are some things we don't know.

(22:10):
There are some hyper inflammatories that we look at symptom sets.
Me being in a medical research that's what our company
does is we publish scientific research for irbless and naturopathic doctors.
So we're into the research the symptom sets. First of all,
we've identified metals like barium, strontium, aluminum, which everybody knows about.
Mercury is very high. We have dust tests. We've done

(22:31):
a lot of testing on this water test, even in
rural main which is where I live.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I was going to ask you about that that you've
taken water samples.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Also, yeah, oh yeah, we've taken rainwater samples. We've got
all those things. Aluminum. In fact, our water sample had
three hundred micrograms micrograms per leader of aluminum, which is
six times higher than what's called the MCL, the maximum
continent level that the EPA allows in drinking water. So
our rain water. And there's no industry around here, out

(23:00):
in the middle of nowhere, right.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Right right that you can say contamination from that.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Source, right right, So I mean, obviously this is airborne,
and of course everybody across the world who's testing this
is coming up with the same results. So how did
the aluminum level skyrocket around the world all a sudden
in rain water. So that really covers You don't spray
these things on people unless you want to make them
sick and kill them off number one. So I believe
it's got to be population and reduction. Especially some of

(23:25):
the new components they're spraying that cause induce heart attacks
have the same symptoms set as venom peptides, Which is
very interesting because doctor Brian Artists I don't know I
people are familiar with him, has done a lot of
research about the covid.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Real is o Zempic has a venom peptide and.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's a snail venom. Ozempic has a snail venom that
actually venoms a lot of time cause paralysis. And the
way that they cause paralysis is by removing prohibiting magnesium
metabolism in the body. So what happens is if you
just if you take the way a muscle flexes is
by calcium, and the way a muscle releases is with magnesium.

(24:04):
It takes magnesium into the cells. That's kind of simplified,
but that's what happens, is like an ionic exchange. That's
how your muscles work. If you remove magnesium from your
body and your muscles don't have magnesium, then your muscles
will flex but they can't let go, which you'll have
Charlie horses. You'll have cramps, you can get headaches, you
can have constipation. Anything that constitutes a chronically tight muscle
that can't loosen up can be caused by magnesium. And

(24:28):
so ozempic has snake venom that actually paralyzes the muscles
in the intestines that actually cause perastaltic action, which is
what moves the stuff through your intestines. So it makes
you not get hungry, you kind of feel full for
long periods of time. Very unhealthy obviously, guess.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
What I've heard that that's like whoa, that's something that
catches up with you eventually.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
It also causes irotting disease. It can cause all kinds
of terrible side effects. So the things that they're spraying
obviously are for killing people. There is no other reason
that you would spray these things. The other thing for
weather modification is I've found that there's two types. Now
I've cataloged over the years about twenty different types of

(25:10):
things that they spray us with based on the taste, smell,
and the symptoms set. And I've noticed that there are
three particular types, and I give them names. I've written
articles on them. And these types always precede precipitation. They're
always sprayed about twelve.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I want to make sure it comes down with the rain.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Well, what they are actually doing is they're sequestering the moisture.
What it does is it This is how they cause
the droughts in California. We watched them off the coast
of California. They were doing what's called hypernucleation. In order
for rain to form, you have to have particulates in
the atmosphere, and then water forms around the particulates that
get heavy enough and fall. If you hypersaturate the atmosphere

(25:49):
with these small particulates, not enough rain can accumulate around
any particular particles, so they stay airbone. So by hypernucleation,
you can actually make the atmosphere hold much larger amounts
of moisture. And they did this off the coast of California.
This is before the California droughts. For years they did
they cause this. They would hypernucleate the air, then the

(26:10):
moist air would be carried and it wouldn't fall on California,
which is important for agriculture, of course, because California is
a huge agricultural state. The rain would go to the
north to the midwest central US and fall and then
cause terrible flooding. So at the same time we were
having droughts in California, we were having terrible flooding in
the Midwest, and people are scratching their heads like, wow,

(26:32):
you know, why is this happening. It's like we're watching
them do this. They're spraying three particular types that I
can taste. They have distinct taste and smells to them,
and they are so consistent that I can tell you
we are if we are having one of those three
types in the air, I know that I can look
at radar and we have incoming rain, and within a

(26:54):
few hours of it appearing, you will watch within it
takes about an hour, sometimes two with a really big storm,
but typically within one hour you'll see a big stormfront.
When I start tasting the barying type or the drywall
dust or the sharp metallic those are three names I
gave them, you will see those stormfronts just dissipate within
sixty to ninety minutes, and they're just gone.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Do you do they have Do they do any type
of distribution seasonal like certain ones at certain times of
the years, or no, or as it could just be.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
No, not, I haven't noticed that at all. No, it's
not seasonal at all. I notice that I do notice
patterns like they spray. Inflammatory. They have a couple inflammatory types.
I call one the inflammatory type and the other one
called the neo inflammatory type because it's when it came
a few years later. The neo inflammatory type causes tremendous
heart in lung inflammation, and I believe it's what's causing
the epidemic in children of you know, it's the number

(27:45):
one child the disease right now depending on the source
you look at for asthma. And this is what causes.
This causes the same symptoms of me. It causes my
heart and lung inflammation makes it feel like you can't
get people.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Inflammation in your body of any thing. Really, you feel
in a million ways in your body. It's bad when
you have inflammation.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
It is especially in the heart and lungs. Yes, and
this inflammatory type, there's another type that's called the aromatic
which actually they hit us yesterday with the hardest aromatic
that they've hit us with and probably a month or two.
And what it does is just absolutely drains your body
of magnesium. And it causes cold hands and feet. It'll
make you feel chilly. It can cause you have heart arrhythmia.

(28:28):
It can actually cause people to go into heart attacks. Wow,
it causes tremors. And guess what the symptom set of
this matches what the COVID vaccine and what if they
found in the COVID vaccine. In the COVID vaccine, doctor
Artists reported that they actually did genetic testing and found
the bungerotoxin from the crate snake.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
And what I didn't know that this was not.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
In every vial. It was only in certain lots. Yes,
they didn't put in every vile because they're too smart.
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Then everybody right, right right, It's like you if you
were the one that got it right exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
So he found those toxins and I started research. I'm like,
you know what. They They claim to have created all
of these vaccines, you know, in just a few months time,
and get them off the three hundred million doses in
very short period of time, which is not possible. I
know how assembly lines work. I know how you have
to set up these lines, you have to prepare your materials.

(29:24):
It's just it's another one of these lies, you know.
It's like you can't set up that that kind of
production line. And at time. Obviously they have been producing
this stuff before in stockpiling. It wouldn't it be interesting?
Is that the way that they produce snake ven and
peptides are using things like bacteria like E. Colide, and
they use what's called crisper technology, and they genetically modify

(29:46):
the bacteria and so the bacteria will start to produce
ven and peptides. Well, when you have this mechanism where
you can actually produce massive amounts of vent and peptides
that you're planning on using in the future, you've already
got right here.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
You're not They're not going in there milky a venom
from snakes. They're basically like you said, they're producing it
with a crisper and really quick and for large amounts.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Exactly, they have to have a way of producing this
mass amounts. And so it seems it's like to me
what they probably were doing, And I don't know for
sure because I don't have an insider to tell me this,
but I'll bet probably because the symptom set matches, and
boy is it's strong, they probably began producing this stuff
and maybe the early twenty teens. We started getting hit

(30:28):
with it. Around twenty fourteen is twenty fourteen twenty fifteen
is when we started getting hit with that aromatic type
which drains the magnesium out of your body. And so
I bet they were starting to get the stockpiling, and
they knew they were going to do the vaccine. They
knew that they were going to put this stuff, and
this was all planned far in advance. Right, they had
to have the stockpiles. So they had the production line,
they had the bacteria, they had the vats, they had

(30:49):
the you know, this stuff takes years to set up,
and so I figured they said they probably said, well,
we've got our production line. We're going what we're going
to do is we're going to airsolize a lot of
this and then we're going to use and put this
in it. We're going to create an emergency and then
inject it directly in.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Right, and this is this is this is the symptoms.
This is what we want to create, these symptoms so
that we can address it. This way, and because also
what you're describing is besides that they're they're doing weather manipulation,
in other words, in order to to deploy this. So
it's a whole range of things. You know, we're talking
here the contrails, weather manipulation, and then of course there

(31:27):
it's and I think that's I think that's what gets
to people. Russ that I think people have a hard
time thinking, who's going to be, for lack of a
better work, so diabolical, like for years in advance, you're
going to do exactly what you said, the planning, the
logistics of this is what we need, this is how
we're going to get it, this is where we're going
to keep it and whatever. You know, Whoever, people sometimes

(31:50):
think I think people have a hard time grasping that concept.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Like, yeah, I think that I think we need to
get over that as a as a world. You know,
are history of this world is absolutely filled with that,
and most of them went to governments. You know, this
is the thing that that people people people like that
sociopaths and psychopaths are drawn to power, and so when
you centralize power, they naturally go there. And it goes

(32:18):
much deeper than that, though, because you can talk about
secret societies, you can talk about all this stuff, and
it sounds very conspiratorial. But as somebody who's researched this,
I've been in this since nineteen eighty five, that's when
I began learning about this stuff. I mean, this is
all real. I mean there are conspiracies, and I know
they use that as a as.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
A right, like a bad word kind of deal.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, to demonize people. And it's like, if you don't
believe in conspiracies, you're very, very ignorant of the history
of the world. The history of the world is actually
saturated with conspiracies, and that's how most people have gotten
into power. Most large you know parties or groups get
into power. They have plans, they do things in secret.
It happens all the time. It happens all the time now,

(32:58):
and it's just part of the way the world works.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well, then this is the thing most people don't realize that.
You want to call it German warfare whatever. Okay, this
has been done since ancient times, obviously not the same way.
But as a matter of fact, you know that there
was the scourge of you know, the Black death or
the plague in uh, you know, in medieval Europe. And

(33:22):
basically it came about because the Tartars, which at that
time the Mongols, you know, they were they were killing
everything in their in their way. Uh. Basically they were
uh either throwing uh infected bodies over Let's say if
let's say, if if they were sieging a city, uh,

(33:43):
you know, people were in there, they would if they
had sickness among those that they had among them, they
would catapult them over into the uh, over the walls
and and of course these bodies, you know, what happens
after that is that it contaminates the water. As a
matter of fact, what was it, I can't remember what
city it was. It was like either Byzantine or one

(34:06):
of those the Venice. They left, they got out of there,
and with them they brought the what would become eventually
become the Black Death that decimated. But that idea of
using germ warfare, the only thing is back then it
wasn't used on the populace intentionally. It was used for war.
And then of course collateral damage was you know, if

(34:28):
you live somewhere, you're done for. But you know, you
would think that we would know better by now than
to do stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah. I mean even these days, I mean we have
they are spraying biologics on us. I can tell you
a story. They actually caused the great flu outbreak in
the United so you can look up online. We had
a great flu outbreak across the United States in twenty eighteen.
I predicted this in twenty seventeen. They began hitting us
with the hardest biologics that we've ever been hit with,
which I can taste or smell, the night before Christmas

(35:00):
Eve and they hit us for two weeks in our area,
and everybody got sick. They shut down government, they shut
down schools, Pediatricians offices were backed up for three months.
We didn't get in. Everybody got sick. And I've seen
this happen over and over again. It's not that intense.
Usually usually they do about three days and then there's
a quote unquote outbreak. But for my sensitive sense of
taste and smell, I can also detect. And I've done

(35:23):
this since a kid. I thought everybody could do this
until I grew up and realized I wasn't. But when
somebody's got a cold, or right before they're getting a cold,
like a day before, they have a certain odor on
their breath. And I noticed this when I was a kid.
And the next day they get sick. Yes, And so
I was like, oh, okay, you know, I didn't think anything
of it. I'm like, oh, that's interesting, you know, always
being kind of an analytical kid, you know. And then

(35:44):
what happened is they started, for the first biologics hit
us from the sky. In February of two thousand and nine,
they started actually hitting us, but they would actually that
was kind of like layering. And then and then if
a few years later, they had all these articles come
out in you know, National Geographic and Time magazine, Newsweek,

(36:05):
in Scientific amer you know, all of these magazines came
out saying the scientists have discovered billions and billions of
viruses falling from the sky and they don't know where
they're coming from.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
And I'm like, I was telling people this five years earlier,
that they are doing this because I taste this stuff
in the air, it's exactly the same flavor. And when
they actually hit us from then that's high high altitude.
They started spraying high altitude in our area. I can't
speak for our areas, but I think they did it
across the United States and other countries, because we had
a group with the one hundred and ninety two thousand

(36:38):
members that Facebook shut down in twenty twenty one from
all over the world, and so we used to get
feedback from everywhere. But it was the largest group of
its kind, and I imagine I started but anyway, they
started this in two thousand and nine. But they do
hit us periodically. They hit us real hard for two
or three days, and then everybody gets not everybody, but
many people get sick, especially children.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Right, defend, depending on you know, what their health is, like,
you know, if they were defense And I think that happens.
It's really funny because sometimes you get sick and you know,
oh you know what, I know, I came in contact
with so and so and they got me sick. But
there's times that you get sick and you're like, where
did this come from? Right? You know what, I haven't
been around anybody it's sick or anything like that. And

(37:20):
I think that accounts for and I think that's happened
to everybody more than once. Will you come not and
I'm not talking, I mean like really sick and you're like,
where did this come from?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean it happens here. You know, I
taste it real strong, and I'll start I'm in as
a as an herbal practitioner. I uh well, I don't
not a practitioner, but researcher. I uh, you know, I'll
start taking stuff in both strike. I can feel when
my means system starts getting suppressed, and I can taste
the stuff in the air with the biologics. It's in
the background constantly, but it's when they give us those

(37:50):
real hard hits. So you know, talking about you know,
people have a hard time believing that there are evil
people in the world who do stuff. I mean, you know,
we have we have the Zinc Cademy mocks. There's so
many stories that have come out talking about the intentional
poisoning the public. We had the zinc ademium oxide incidents
where they sprayed the public. We have all kinds of instances.
We got them on our Global SkyWatch website where we

(38:12):
have video stories where they showed where the government does
this government sanctioned or military operations where they would actually
spray the public without their knowledge, without their consent, with
poisons and there would be outbreaks of cancer, death, all
hearted to all kinds of symptoms, and the military never
would tell the people, and then they'd get caught because
there was a missile blower or somebody did you know.
Finally they get caught. So there are a number of

(38:34):
instances when the military or the government was caught doing this.
Imagine how many times they've done things and have not
been caught. But even beyond that, think about the toxicity
of mercury. Mercury is considered the most toxic non radioactive substance.
It is incredibly toxic to the body in very very
small amounts, but yet they added to vaccines. It has

(38:56):
been added to vaccines.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
It's incredible. When people learn about that, they're like, what.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yes, they put it in amalgam fillings. And what I
want to tell people is that this is not science.
You a real scientist would not add a known supertoxin
to a substance that's going to be injected in your body.
You cannot do that without having an absolutely diabolical reason.

(39:22):
Or amalgam fillings or red tattoos. Some of the inks,
some of the red inks and tattoos, not all of them,
but some of the red inks are derived from cinnabar,
which is the red or of mercury or guess what
CFL light bulbs. Why did they get rid of all
the incandescence because they wanted to save electricity. There's always
an ulterier motive when you reach write these things CFL

(39:45):
light bulbs. If you break a CFL light bulb in
your house, the mercury that will come out of a
CFL light bulb, even after an EPA approved consumer cleanup,
is so high that it would shut down a factory.
This is not me saying this. The State of Maine
actually conducted a study which they have posted on their website,
which I've also posted on my website. We actually took

(40:08):
CFL light bulbs, we took other light bulbs, and we
did our own test using a Jerome mercury vapor meter
that we rented fifteen thousand dollars vapor meter. Our company,
our small business, did this and we rented this meter
for a few days and we measured things, and we
actually measured the vapor coming off of broken CFL and
broken light bulbs. So you if you go to buy

(40:30):
a house, you have no idea if you're walking into
a disease causing factory. The only way to get the
mercury out properly is to have a commercial you need
about a two thousand dollars industrial cleanup that's done properly
if you follow the EPA's instructions. And what I just
said is very important is that these measurements the State
of Maine did that showed mercury vapor at levels high

(40:52):
enough to shut down a factory were taken in houses
in a simulated house. They actually built a simulated living
room in other rooms for the State of main testing
they did after the EPA approved clean up, the mercury
vapor levels were high enough to shut down a factory.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
You know what, And it's true what you say. Sometimes
sometimes you know, like they say, follow the money, but
sometimes it's not just it's not a money thing. As
much as it looks like it's a money thing, there's
something an ulterior motive behind it that you're like, like
you said, the it's and again, I want to say,
the most of the population is, for a lack of

(41:33):
a better word, very vanilla, and they don't believe in
that doctor evil kind of like, oh, they're gonna no
because it's just too you know what they say, if
you're gonna tell the lie, tell it our big giant lie.
And I think that that's what happens that most people
are saying, No, that's too that's too big, that's too massive.
Who would do that? That's like and uh, yeah, I

(41:58):
I wonder how. And this is the thing also, I
think once upon a time, people used to stay more
in the same either the same house or in the
same town. People were not as transient. So sometimes you
could follow like, man, why is that people in that
town all of a sudden, let's say, developing certain types
of cancers or certain illnesses. But I want to say

(42:19):
that for the last few years, twenty thirty years, people
are more transient. So even if where you lived that
was where you got sick, let's say you moved away,
nobody would ever connect that, you know, it's all everybody
that lived here, let's say, from in a ten year
period that down the road developed some type of terminal

(42:39):
illness because they've moved away, They've gone off to some
other place. So it's very difficult to track the origin
as in, yeah, everybody in that little town or on
that street or whatever, you know, if you know how
they do, which I know is very difficult, A very
long long term study. You know, I'm sure they would

(42:59):
come up with things that'd be like what the thing is.
Of course, that's a very difficult thing to do when
you're talking you know, a large amount of people for
a long term. I'm sure that they would be shocked
to find out, like, how could people that are not
genetically linked, no, have no genetic predisposition to it? You

(43:20):
know all the reasons why people they say, oh, you
got that, because you know all those things, they developed
very similar types of illnesses.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yes, yeah. The thing that's interesting about mercury though, is
that in my research I got mercury toxicity very bad
for my model feelings. I had them removed and everything
I had went away from really Oh yeah, I had depression,
I had anxiety, I had great fears. I was very shy.
I had indigestion, headaches, I had fatigue, I would have

(43:51):
sweats during the night. I had bruxism, which is I
would grind my tea so hard I wake up with
blood in my mouth. Anxiety, Yeah, I couldn't sleep at night.
Heartburn was unbelievable. I had my Malcolm fillings removed after
doing research and finding out that finally after being five
years of illness and no doctor could figure anything out.
Of course I started researching it. I had my feelings out.

(44:15):
Everything was gone. Eighty five percent of those Simpsons were
gone in twenty four hours, okay, And within three months
everything was gone, and I felt better than I had
ever felt my entire life. My memory had gotten really,
really bad. In fact, that your head, huh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
It's in your head. Yeah, I mean still do they
still make fillings with that? No?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Oh yeah? In fact, if yeah, I mean half the
dentist almost almost fifty percent of the dynast the United
States still using it, even though it's been outlawed overseas.
But the big thing about mercury is that because it
is so ubiquitous, it is everywhere. It is in vaccines,
and now they're spraying it from the air. But even

(45:00):
before they were spraying it from the air, you could
actually trace back about eighty five to ninety percent of
diseases in the United States were associated with mercury toxicity.
Now this is stunning for people to say, because as
my father once said us that he would say, why
do you always trace back everybody symptoms to mercury? I said,

(45:21):
it's not that way. It's not that I'm trying to
trace everybody since mercury. What it is is that mercury
is the most ubiquitous and most exposed poison in the world.
And that's why the disease set that we have in
the world, everything from diabetes, cancer, leukemia, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, everything, tennitis, disease, cancer,

(45:50):
all kinds of things, even like simple things like maybe indigestion.
I had terrible heartburn after I eat. I didn't know
what it was. I was crazy. I had to take
supplementary digestive at like hydrochloric acid when I ate, because
otherwise because it's a low acid condition that causes harper.
Most people think it's unintuitive, but it's because of the

(46:12):
gas that rises up and then it burns your esophagus,
so you take more acid and then it goes away.
And it actually worked for me and to manage it.
When I got my fillings out, that one symptom and
just one example of many was gone instantly gone. And
the reason is is twofold number one. Mercury has a
very strong affinity for chlorine. Well, where do you find chlorine?

(46:33):
Hydro chloric acid which is what digests your food. The
mercury tears apart your acid and deacidifies your stomach. Number Two,
another thing mercury does is it actually shuts down the
production of secretary A, which is a substance which is
the largest, the most important substance in the largest part

(46:54):
of your immune system, which is in your gut. Your
gut immune system is your most important of your first
your first response, and it shuts down the production secretary.
And this is why autistic children like doctor Boyd Haley.
He's a researcher. I love to follow. He's got some
great work out there. Uh, he says. Every autistic child
has digestive issues. Why isn't that interesting because of mercury.

(47:18):
That's what mercury gives you, digestive issues. And now by
spraying it from the air, everybody has something has all
kinds of mercury symptoms.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Right, you hear all these? Yeah, when you've been alive
for X amount of time, Yeah, Crohn's disease. You know
this inflammator, you know all these different uh, digestive or
inflammatory responses. Everybody, what is this? This is? I mean, yeah,
every once in a while you had somebody who just
had some type of you know, bad digestion, but that
was very seldom. It wasn't a common thing. Now everybody's like,

(47:49):
you know, all right, why why are so many people
suffering from And by the way, not elderly, this is
just people young, middle aged, they'll have something digestive problem.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I mean, you know, mercury affects
every body system. It will make you And this is
where it's hard for people to understand about anxiety, fear.
I call it the fear drug. It actually changes your hormones.
And if people have a hard time believing that mercury
could change your emotions so fundamentally, I mean I was

(48:19):
so depressed. I mean I had such terrible depression for years,
and the mercury came out and I was like, it's gone.
I feel like a different pert. It was like a
different body. My body just got swapped out. And you
start learning about it, and it's and you find out
that people who have a hard time believing that mercury
could cause this think about cocaine. Why do people take morphine?

(48:42):
Why do people take recreational drug? It completely changes your
emotional state? Why because it changes your body chemistry, Because
emotions are largely derived by body chemistry. So you change
your chemistry, you change your emotions. Mercury interferes with all
of that.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
And as everybody knows, that's where that term mad hatter
came from, because the hatters used to uh use mercury
when producing the hats.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
They would cure the felt with a mercury vapor, that's right,
and they became the mad hatters. And what do mad hatters?
They act mad? The word idea of madness is your
hyper You're you're always bouncing off the walls. And that's
what mercury does to you. Yes, and I've been there.
I have been there. I know what it's like.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Let me ask you, do you have you come across
besides the mercury now that you're talking about digestion and
so forth, anything having to do with parasites.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Absolutely, mercury is a very strong immunosuppressive. And so what
you have is you have what are called opportunistic infections
like lines. Why do people of lime all have mercury
like symptoms. It's so the symptom sets matt so so closely.
And I believe it's because it's just a it's the
people who have limes have gotten limes because they have

(49:51):
a chronically suppressed immune system. Okay, and so therefore it's manifesting. Uh,
and it's because of immunosuppressive. It reminds me of like
another symptom I had before I had my feelings out
as I had, and this was gross. I hated it.
It drove me nuts because I was always very concerned
about how I looked and being in shape and working
out and cycling and playing racketball. I grew up in Florida,

(50:14):
so i'd go out and do the sports. I would
have white tongue and it got worse and worse. For
five years, from nineteen ninety five to two thousand, my
tongue just got whiter and whiter. It was just embarrassing,
and it's like, why do I have this? What is
the problem? Guess what happened after my feelings came out,
had them all taken out One day in Clearwater, Florida.

(50:34):
Twenty four hours later, I woke up and my tongue
was completely normal. And that would blow people away and say,
how should that be? Because the structure because mercury breaks
down digestive enzymes. It breaks down enzymes it prevents enzyme
production in your body. The enzymes actually break down the

(50:58):
film and the candida remnants that are left in your
mouth or in your tongue, and then you could get thrushes,
you get other things like that. When you take the
mercury away, your slive and now has enzymes, it's enzymes again.
It breaks down that structure. And the reason I knew this,

(51:19):
it says I experimented once and I actually took digestive
enzymes because I was so frustrated with it. I swished
with digestive enzymes and it actually was the only thing
I found that actually got rid of the white coating
on my tongue. And I was like, wow, that's interesting.
And then eventually learning putting the pieces together, saying, wow,
that's how it got That's how it went away in
twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Right. And this is the people don't realize that that
bacteria bouance that we have in our body, just asn't
our gut. Once you throw that off, it comes out
in different ways. You know, sometimes we don't connect one
thing with the other. Now, let me ask you, and
this is something recent, and I don't you know when
you hear stuff now, now there's everybody's become, maybe unwillingly

(52:01):
a cynic. You know, for years I had told everybody
to eat yogurt because the yogurt's good for your digestive system,
for the for you know, all the like, the the
the yeah, right, all the other stuff. Then what was that?
About a month or they were saying that yogurt had
some type of sticky substance and I don't know if

(52:21):
it's part of the yogurt or part of the production
of the yogurt where it wasn't good for you. I
was like, are you kidding me now that I can't eat?
You know, I'm not a big yogurt eater, but you
always hear the probiotics and prebioticsy yogurt. Now they're saying
there's something that the yogurt's oatmeal, and I can't remember
what other food group has some type of sticky substance

(52:43):
that would either in other words, it wasn't good. And
I was like, well, have you heard something along those lines.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I haven't heard that, And I would probably say two
things in response to that. First of all, being in
the research industry, my business partners are prime researcher. She's
absolutely brilliant, and she has had her face in books
for decades, in studies. I mean, there's nobody that you
probably find is more up to date on this kind
of stuff. And what we discovered early on in our business. Again,

(53:11):
we started in nineteen ninety seven, but we actually began
our research a few years before that, you know, really
intensely researching and writing the first book that we produced,
we found out that somewhere between about you know, twenty
to fifty percent of scientific research is garbage. I'm not
kidding when you this is the thing. And what they do.

(53:33):
What they do is they come out with this research
and they have an abstract at the beginning, which is
which either doesn't represent what actually happened in the research,
or the research study itself was horribly designed, in fact,
that it's so bad that it's designed for a particular outcome.
And then it goes all over the world on the
news and they'll say eggs are bad for you, right,

(53:55):
and then five years.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
So many times swung both ways on that one, that's.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Letters bad for you, milks bad, and then oh no,
it's good for you. You know, five ten years say
oh no, it's bad for you. Oh no, it's good,
and so now we know everything you hear in mainstream
media you hear, don't even believe it if you really
want to know. And unfortunately it takes a little work.
You've got to go find the studies and then read

(54:20):
the methodology and say is this logical or was this
study of farce? And does the abstract even match what
they did in the study.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I know that they've they've found out even peer reviewed articles.
They they they've shown that the peers reviewing it were
like kind of like they were in other words, they
were agreeing with it, but not really you know, in
other words, just to say that it was peer reviewed
in order to get it published, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Whatever, ghost writing, yess doctors not even you know, they'd
sign their name off and they they'd be on a
study that they had absolutely nothing to do with, or
outright fraud like Nutrisweet. You know that. You know the
way Nutriswite got on the office got on the it
is that they actually paid a technician in the lab
because there's there's a phenolalanol in it. And of course

(55:07):
you know neutrisuitet Cearle was saying, oh no phenolalanols and
bananas and it's everywhere. Nothing to worry about. You know,
why is everybody up in arms? It's just an amino
acid or whatever. Well, what they didn't tell you is
that the phenolalanol when it's unbound is dangerous. It's when
it's bound naturally where it occurs in nature, where it's safe.

(55:27):
But they didn't They don't tell you, and they.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Know this, yeah, line by emission.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
But what they did is they paid a technician in
their studies when they where they proved that the phenylalanine
was safe is they would give phenylalanine to rats. They
did a rat study and what they did is the
technician would take the phenylalanine and mix it in with
a rat food. The problem was the phenolalanine was in

(55:51):
large crystals that were really hard, like rocks. The rats
would eat the food, leave all the phenolalanine and then
they would throw it all away. And the technician was
paid thirty thousand dollars. They were caught. This is one
where they actually got caught. Was paid about thirty thousand
dollars to not tell anybody. And then the outcome of
the study and this is what this is why all
the people have been poisoned with nutri suite, gone blind

(56:14):
heart problems, all kinds of problems that it causes, you know,
the methyl alcohol also and the phenolalanine and that's in
nutri suite is all based on this study that was
based on a bribe and was complete, completely fraudulent. Why
is this not on mainstream news? Why is this not everywhere?
Well we know why because mainstream news is one hundred

(56:35):
percent filtered and controlled by the same people that run
the medical industries that now run the military.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
You know what. There's days that it's like I go
like this because I'm on my desk and I'm a
TV and it's I just mute out another form of commercial.
It's like constant. It's like, you know what, I can't
get it's constant. And then I end laugh And I'm
sure there's people out there that gonna laugh. They describe
illnesses that I was like, what is that? How many people?

(57:03):
You know, I wonder how many people really suffer, Let's say,
in the population of the United States suffer from that
zero point one percent or less input, you know, like,
and it's that constant, and of course they portray it
for lack of a better word. They make it look
like being sick, you know, or having a certain illness
or disease. It's like, oh, but then you have all

(57:25):
this stuff going on, and it's like, that's very misleading.
And of course I'm sure you've heard that, and I've
been because I've been at my doctor's office where you
see the pharma arriving with bunches with goodies. You know,
if you don't believe in that, go around like now
that like the holidays, and see how much stuff they

(57:46):
bring to the to the office staff.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
All right, and not only that, but the kickbacks, I mean,
you know, vaccine kickbacks, you're in pharmaceutical kickbacks. I mean
you can go online and website and look up how
much money, and many of these doctors are making ten
fifty hundred thousands of dollars.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Well, they can't from what I understand, some of them
can't survive unless they follow in other words, the insurance
coverage or the insurance company along with the pharmas. In
other words, if they don't prescribe a certain thing or
even certain diagnoses, they don't get paid, you know, so
they're kind of forced.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Into it's a system of bribe. It's not just bribing people.
The system itself is inherently based on bribing.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Let me ask you and about this, And I've heard
you know, once upon a time again for people who
have been alive for a certain amount of years. Once
upon a time, doctors own their own offices. Maybe they
might have had a partner, but overall there was a
standalone guy. He was affiliated with certain hospitals. But from
what I understand, all these doctor's office have been bought
out to be by systems, by medical systems, all right.

(58:52):
In other words, that's why everybody tows the line as
far as whether it's diagnosis or what they recommend as
far as treatment or whatever. In other words, that if
you had a doctor, for lack of a better word,
had a conscience, it's like either shut up, you don't
have a job, or you know, one of the two.
But that that independence that doctors used to have is

(59:14):
not around anymore. Do you think that's what causes also
part of the problem.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Oh, it's by design. It's a centralization of power. That's
why we're headed towards a new world order. That's why
it's because the powers that be want absolute control that
can never be severed from them, and so they're put
there setting up a system which is already ninety five
percent in place by the way to do that. Yes,
and the medical industry did the same thing, and they

(59:40):
did it through licensing and regulation.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
And I think licensing and regulation is absolutely the things
that they hold over. Doctors had to control them, That's
what I understand. Yeah, for example, you couldn't even have
had the COVID issues the COVID conspiracy happens the way
it did unless you were hold licensing over doctor's heads.
There were so many doctors that towed the line, that

(01:00:04):
did what they were told to do because if they don't,
they're going to pull their license. And that's the same
thing with the Malcolm Fillings Doctor hall Huggins, which was
the first book I read cover to cover. I read
it in two days. When I lived in Florida. I
went to a book. I called doctor Halligan's office, uh,
and they said, read our book and then we'll recommend
a dentist you. So I went down to how they

(01:00:25):
found the book of South Tampa, got it, read it
cover to cover. Doctor hal Huggins had his license pulled
for exposing the connection meant connection between disease and mercury
and a Malcolm fillings. He was curing in the way.
It was not because he was harming people, not because
there were complaints against him, but because he was actually
curing people of multiple sclerosis by taking their Malcolm fillings out.

(01:00:47):
He has examples where he has people who came and
not all of them did This was dramatic, but there's
examples of people who went into his office in a
wheelchair unable to walk, and after the films removed actually
were able to stand and walk, some with a little assistance,
some without assistance, others. It wasn't so dramatic, but they
were covered over time. And this is what got him

(01:01:08):
in trouble. And so what did they do. Did they
reward him? No, they pulled his license away, so he
can't make a living. Like the medical system should not
be based on licensing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I think should be based compromised, It should.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Be ye should be based on results. Give the public
freedom to go anywhere they want to see whatever doctor
they want. Nope, doctors can do whatever they want, and
you would have cures for cancer because they already exist.
It's just that they can't practice them. Hoxy was carrying cancer.
You've got, Uh, doctor Gonzalez was carrying cancer. What do
they do? They pull his license, They demonize them, thanks

(01:01:42):
with coxy. They pulled the they they pulled there were
uh Joe, I can't remember. The other guy's name was
with B seventeen. He cured oh somewhere a few thousand
people with cancer. They put him in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
So he was practicing, Oh yeah, because they're saying, oh,
you're going to kill these people. You're you're you're practicing. Well, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
All complaints in and licensing is what is creating this
artificial monopoly that is not allowing the system of free
enterprise to work.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Unless people think this thing. I'm going to bring it
up real quick, this thing of licensing. It's not just
a medical field that's compromised. Licensing in all different areas well,
like you said, any because you know, whether it's entrepreneurship
or anything, that licensing has a stranglehold on basically on
a lot of fields where like you said, the free

(01:02:30):
market big time, big time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Absolutely. Have you ever seen those little pocket constitutions? You know,
I had a stack of them sitting around here. I
don't know if I had had some still, I know
I got some somewhere buried in my stuff. But they
actually have a section in there which actually talks about
the people near the founding of the United States that
gave their lives fighting against licensing. They knew licensing was

(01:02:55):
so dangerous and it would cause so many deaths, and
so much so that they actually lost gave their lives
fighting licensing. It is a removal of your freedom. You
should have the freedom to go to a doctor that
has the freedom to practice whatever he wants. And instead
of them throwing people who are actually curing things, they
literally are throwing people who are curing things in jail.

(01:03:17):
And the people who should be upset about this, have
you lost someone to cancer or so many other diseases
which they are causing now they're causing ninety five today.
But besides, not even looking at that, if you know
somebody who died of one of these diseases that many
of these herbalists and natural paths are curing all the
time on a regular basis. Like, for instance, my mother

(01:03:40):
had small cell lung cancer. Right they gave her cisplatin
and she said, I don't want to take this da
da da da, So she cut it in the quarter
and said, well, to please the doctor, I'm going to
take quarter. But what would you do? I said, you
know what I would do. I would take CBD. I
would take thhc oil. And the reason I would is
because cisplattin actually bought blocks the way it works to

(01:04:04):
stop small cell un cancers. That blocks what's called HR
two binding sites. Well, guess what THHD does. It does
exactly the same thing. It blocks HR two binding sites
without all of the horrible side effects and liver and
kiddie damage. She had two full recoveries, absolutely one recoveries.
So then I went down there visit her for a while,

(01:04:26):
and I went to the on collegist with her because
she wanted me to go with her. And what the
guy wanted to do say, we want to keep you
on the cisplatin just as a preventative. Blood work is
better than average in her age group. She's one hundred
percent clean, our immune system is functioned, there's no trace
of cancer left. And wants to keep her. He wants
to it, and we're like, no way, buddy, sorry, And
it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
What And that's the part I understand that. And I
know there's doctors out there Nursey and I I'm sorry,
but you're all a bunch of psychopaths. You know, you're
not misled, you're psychopathic. Because you know, for a while,
they could have been very easy for him to have said, look,
let's let's let's go and see what happens. Will monitor you,

(01:05:07):
but let's take you off that med and let's see
what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
You know, the money exactly, they get kicked back and
they will sell your life, yes, for the mighty dollar.
Well that's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Well now, and I'm sure you've heard of this where
in Canada the recommending euthanasia for sick people regardless of age.
By the way, doesn't have to be you're very elderly
and sick, you know, like you're like, okay, now euthanasia
is put on the table as far as a treatment
as a treatment option, I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah, there was a girl who talked about that recently
in a video that went viral where she got her
life has been ruined from the COVID vaccine. Yes, and
so doctor as well, you know we could go ahead
and kill you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
So you ruined my life and now you're going to
kill me, and you're doing it, by.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
The way, because then you'll cost us a lot of money. Yeah,
Because see, this is the thing people don't realize. Actually,
when you're younger, you can live even if you're sick.
You could live for years and years, you know. And
they're looking at it. Oh my god, you could be sick,
but be around for another forty years, and we'll have
to pay, especially if they're ill enough where they can't

(01:06:14):
take care of themselves. We're gonna have to pay not
only your medical costs, but maybe somebody to come and
look after you or help you out. So they're like, man,
that's a lot of so we're going to do away
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
That's a great segue into this thought. Is that years
ago I was watching a video from a conference where
a researcher actually took a memo that was actually sent
to the Federal Reserve regional managers across the United States,
and in summary, it said this, we will continue to
feed to promote caffeine, floridated water, YadA, YadA, YadA, all

(01:06:50):
of these these poisonous things to the public. So that
and I never forgot this phrase, they meaning retired people
will will expire before they retire right. Yeah, now connect
this with chemtrails. I have traveled from Florida to Maine.
I've got a lot of family in Florida. I live
in Maine. Now I've got family in western New York.

(01:07:11):
I've traveled that circuit many, many times over the years,
and I can tell you the state of Maine is
the worst sprayed keemtrail state that I've been in, all
along the East coast, all along the Eastern States. And
people go, well, why do you think that is? Well,
a lot of people don't realize that Maine is the
most heavily retired state in the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Really, I did not know that. I thought it was Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
No, not anymore. No, Florida is a totally different place
than when I grew up there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Maine interesting so that they will expire before they retire, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
I believe it. Or let's go down the rabbit hole nowadays?
Why not? Of I know a lot of people don't
like to think about it. Organ Harvecy, that's a people
don't realize how lucrative that is. Okay, not only from
people that have passed on, but also from a they
have you know how there's certain body parts that can

(01:08:10):
be harvested. You know, besides because everybody thinks of organ
harvesting as you know, your organs, but there's ligaments and
most things inside the body that they have found that
even certain companies that were being given the bodies to
get rid of them. We're basically selling off different body
parts for medical either medical research or medical treatment, you know,

(01:08:32):
stuff like that, because there is so much money in it.
So it's like, you know, we're gonna get you, you know,
like you're worth what is that you're worth more dead
than alive kind of thing. Yeah, in the whole sense
of the word.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Well exactly. And if you think of the retirement system
the United States, it's the largest Ponzi scheme arguably in
the world. Literally, I mean this is literally the definition
of a Ponzi scheme. And how do you keep a
Ponzi scheme going? You have to remove the people who
are about to collect on it. You have all the contributors,
because this is this is what a Ponzi scheme is.

(01:09:07):
You've got all these contributors at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
And you got to Yeah, we don't want you to collect.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
They don't want you to collect, so they don't want
you to get too old. Well, this is the way
that you keep the Ponzi scheme bone going. And the
reason you want the money flowing the United States is
because the same families that control the world control the
United States, and they want that tax money flowing because
then it gets in their pockets. Eventually, the more money
they tax money they are flowing through military contractors Halliburton

(01:09:33):
KDR or all of their other contractors that they have,
it eventually ends up to a large degree in private
pockets from companies that are owned by the same people
who control the government themselves. So they want that cash flow,
and they do not want people retiring that is actually
takes away from their cash flow.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
You hear, as a matter of fact, you hear a
lot of people saying, you know what, I wish I
could retire, but a cant I can't afford, you know,
because just the cost of living. You know, even if
had it's not because they were not mindful, they did
plan correctly, but the cost of living has changed so
significantly that they'll say, look, I gotta keep working till
what I get seventy or I dropped it or something
because it's just not it's not feasible. How's that it's

(01:10:16):
not feasible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yes, every country in the world who's had fiance currency
has eventually had an economic collapse.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yes, at some point in time. Yes, there's there's a
there's a moment where everything, just like you said, that
Ponzi scheme, eventually the truth comes out, you know, somebody
doesn't get paid it should be paid, and then it's
all downhill from there. And unfortunately, I think also that

(01:10:47):
I think part of it. You know that they're saying
now with the generation of the boomers, that it's going
to be the largest transfer of wealth and property, all right,
And I think they're trying to make it so prohibitive
for airs to keep the let's say a house or
whatever you're leaving them. You know, it's like, man, I

(01:11:08):
can't afford to Yeah, that house that's paid off. You know,
they're going to text me into the next centure for it,
so you know, just sell I exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
People understand the principle of property ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I did a lot of research in fact, that's that's
part of how I began my real hardcore journeys. I
studied the irs code and other law. And boy, would
did that. People were telling me things that I didn't.
I don't believe things just when people tell me, I'm like, okay,
let me go check that out. I kind of put
it in the I don't know compartment. I'm like, I
will check it out. So I went to Stetson University

(01:11:42):
Law Library, I went to the book depository under us
from Florida. I went to the downtown Law Library and
literally did research and made copies and read read stuff,
read the federal judgment court cases and whatever proceedings. In fact,
I've still got paperwork from it from your from this
way long to go back in the early nineties when
I was doing this type of research, right, And it

(01:12:04):
is absolutely stunning that that the things that you're presented
as being self evident, you know, like oh, you've got
to pay your taxes or or you you know, people
go to you know, all of this stuff. I found
out that all this stuff that these people were telling
me was true. They're like, you know, income taxes voluntary.

(01:12:25):
It actually is voluntary technically, but you can still go
to prison if you don't know how to not pay properly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Right, And that's the thing that you tell moost people
and they'll be like, yeah right, and then you know
they'll come knocking on my door and take me away.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
They will if you don't do everything right. And what
the way they've set the system up is, it's actually
what I call legal land minds. They actually set the
whole landscape. So if you sign your name incorrectly, if
you say you live in a two letter state, if
you if you say what your name is, you know,
if your name matches your birth certificate, if you identify
yourself as a US citizen, you know, which actually has

(01:13:00):
a very specific meaning. People don't understand the scheme talking
about conspiracies that has been pulled that has literally made
you property. You are literally collateral for property, paper, property,
And people don't understand this is so, this whole thing is,
it's all the whole system is built on lies upon

(01:13:21):
lies upon lies.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Most people are intimidated. Let's face it, people. Let's take
for example, the RS. Most people are intimidated. They're like,
you know, I mean, you know, they'll garnish my wages
or whatever, blah blah blah blah. So they're like, and
like you said, it's like that if you don't cross
the t's or not the eyes the way they want.
Oh well, there you go. That's you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
The funny thing is, though I knew you're exactly right
people and they and they feed into this intimidation. And
I love watching the psychology of stuff you see in
the movies and television that their propaganda is in everything,
even advertisements. And if you don't know what's going on
in the world on a deep level, you will not
recognize that you're being propagandaized. But I literally knew people

(01:14:06):
who didn't pay they actually opted out of income tax,
opted out of property tax, and they threatened them to
the end. I added relative actually that actually said I'm
not going to pay property tax. And he did it right.
He was a hardcore researcher, the sheriff. Long story short.
They threatened him, threaten him, sending paperwork, told him, you're
gonna go to jail. Then they said, okay, we're going

(01:14:27):
to auction your house. So auction day camp. They even
put a sign, an auction sign in his house, you know,
up for auction on his front yard. They put him
on the list of houses to be auctioned, and literally
the day it came and he did it right. If
you do it right, it works. They went through every house,
auctioned them all off, and when they came to his house,
they just skipped over and went down. Never lost his house,

(01:14:47):
never paid property taxes, never went to jail, never lost anything.
You just have to do it right and then live
through the intimidation.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Right right, Yeah, because they come at you with both barrels.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Yeah, it's rule by fear, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Absolutely, absolutely. People don't realize that that's in great part
psychological more than anything else. You know, it's not the physical,
it's the psych you know, like the the the that
you're thinking, Okay, you know I'm gonna lose my home,
you know where we gonna live. They're the you know,
they're the government. So that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
We're I'm toast and yeah, yeah, oh go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I'm sorry, No, no, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
No. It reminds me and you're you're you're just I
get excited when I hear people say that, because it
is the psychology of fear is what the whole what
drives this whole system. And it reminds me of one
time that my business partner, who I actually am in
business with, she actually wanted to do an experiment. So
we did it is UH. We went to UH when
we got our driver's licenses, we actually received she actually

(01:15:50):
received a notice to renew her driver's license in Florida.
So she went to the DMV and went through the
testing and you know, whatever you had to do. And
then when she sign her name, she put UCC one
dash to a seven above her signature. Okay and without prejudice.
And this comes from the Uniform Commercial Code, which it
means that if you want to retain all of your

(01:16:12):
English common law rights in the execution of a contract,
which is what a a a driver's license is, then
you need to put the one dash to a seven,
which is where it's found in the UCC in the
US code, or you need to find a signed without
prejudice above your name. Well she did that and the

(01:16:35):
person doing it didn't even notice she got her license.
Everything was fine. They're like, okay whatever. Six months later, no,
I think it was more than six months later. I
think it was a couple of years later, but it was.
It was significantly later. She received a letter from Harry Scott.
I'll never forget. I still got a copy of it.
I show people Harry Scott from Tallahassee from Chief of
Records was his title, okay, and it said there's been

(01:16:57):
an error in the issuance of your driver's license. And
this is all because she put one dash to a
seven above.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
That's all. So why is this such a big deal?
He said, there's been an issue an aeron issuance of
your driver's license. Please go and get a You have
thirty days to get this fixed. To go to a
local DMV office. They'll issue a new one for no fee.
Aren't we being nice doing you a nice favor? Notice
to the whatever, here's the instructions, go do it and

(01:17:24):
at the bottom, if you do not do this, your
license will be canceled.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Has even noticed because normally they don't notice those things.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, normally don't. But what is that to me is
just great evidence. It's like, here we go, they noticed
the one dash.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
To a seven.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
They don't like that because you're standing up for your rights.
So what happened is we've got a little counsel from
a political people we were working with guy. It was
actually an next CI agent who actually came out and
he actually doesn't pay taxes and and got free of
the system. When he learned from the CIA, he learned
inside the system what was going on, and he said,
I'm going to change my life and I learned learned

(01:18:00):
a lot. That's where I just really learned a whole
lot from him and the people who are around it.
But anyway, we got a little counsel from him and
we responded to Harry Scott basically long story shirt. We
put citations in there saying we are not doing this
if you continue to contact this. This is an actual
legal contract. We have the right to do this under
USC one Dash two seven. You are operating under the

(01:18:22):
color of law. You are threatening us through the mails.
This constitutes mail. You Oh, if you contact us again,
you know by this, then this then then this will
be reported as mail fraud. Because you've done this through
the mails. You know better. You know that you can't
do this. You know that we are allowed to do this.
And we send a letter back to him, and it's

(01:18:43):
a it's a without dishonor. You say approved for cause. Uh,
you're rejected for cause without dishonors. What you do send
it back to him? Registered mail? You don't, you certified,
got to be registered. You got to do everything perfect
by the book. We did it? Ever heard from them again?
Her license was never revoked. Then here's the kicker, never

(01:19:06):
had anything about it. He didn't come back and whatever.
It was kind of like these people know too much,
you don't mess.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
With it, and they're hoping that your people's ignorance is
going to get them through the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
So about a year later, my brother says, I want
to try that. He goes to the same office, put's
got out prejudice above his name, you know, like nobody noticing.
Like here we go. The inspector saw it, called out
the manager.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Oh yes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
The manager came out of the DMV and this is
all in Florida. Came and looked at said sir, will
you come in my office please, and said you're not
allowed to do this. Said, yes, I am. What do
you mean I'm not allowed to do No, you're not allowed.
You can't do this. Say show me the law, this
says me, I can't. She went to her final cabinet
pull out a a notice from the record Department in

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Tallahassee that said all of the DMV managers have been
instructed that people are not allowed to put without prejudice
as they're sayingignature above their signature or as their signature,
even though that's prescribed as legal, perfectly legal. He went
doash to a seven and he said, and so long
story short, he went ahead and said you know, he

(01:20:13):
went ahead and gave in and said, okay, whatever. I
just was doing this as an experiment. Isn't it really
funny that now instead of actually taking it to court
because they would lose in court, they actually put the
onus of enforcement on the managers of the DMV licenses.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Of course they're the front lines.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Because exactly they're putting it on them, which is the
same thing they.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Do with usually. And I mentioned that in cite this
Florida statute that prohibited that. Well, yeah, it's just a memo.
It was just a memo.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Hey no, not only is there no Florida statue prohibiting it.
Uh you see see one dash to a seven has
been adopted into the Florida Code. The entire thing is
part of the Florida Code. In two to oh one
dash two O seven if the code is in the
Florida Code word for word, so it's part of the
Florida Code. In fact, it's part of the code of
most of the states of the United States, so they

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had no legal basis of doing that. They just try
to intimidate you out of doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Well, you know what, this is the first time I
really kind of realized that, and I said, you know what,
one time when I was because I was hypno therapist
for many years, and one time, me and the other
hypno therapist that I ran the practice with, we went
to a local AA meeting see if anybody wanted we
wanted to offer free you know, there was certain restrictions

(01:21:30):
based on the person, but anyway, you know, we had
never been to one of these things. So you know,
they go around and everybody says their story if they
want to whatever. This is one guy, he must have
been like maybe early fifties. He started saying how he
had been like a handyman slash carpenter slash partner painter
calevan and he had been working like he goes you

(01:21:51):
know what. You know, Yeah, obviously I had a problem
with alcohol, but still I've never I haven't picked my
tax At twenty year and everything went south for him
because apparently had an accident where he had he hit
another vehicle. It wasn't like just a It wasn't like
a it was a one person him, but he had
another vehicle and that's how he got in trouble. And

(01:22:12):
you know, it unraveled because of that. But I remember,
it's getting it goes. This man hasn't done taxes for
twenty years and nothing's happened. He's been He's writing around
all happy. It is ignorance because his world is something
something else is going on in his world. Okay, he's
just been like a handyman carpenter painter for twenty years,
you know, doing work out of his van. Nothing's nobody's
come for him. And I was like, Wow, that's an

(01:22:34):
eye opener. That's a real eye opener.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I used to love listening to stories of this guy
who was from the CIA, and eventually I worked with
this political party in Florida and there were actually people
that we worked with that actually pictured themselves with presidents.
In fact, the guy who was running for president for
our party was the only person in the United States
that actually recommended to the president. He worked under Nixon
and he headed up HHS. I guess he actually recommended

(01:23:04):
to Nixon that the entire department be shut down. He
said it needs to be shut down. This is a
waste of money, and this could be done in better
ways different anyway. It was great to see him work
because he knew that he memorized so much law that
he would actually help people, Like if they had their
children take away taken away. He would go into the

(01:23:25):
worker with them and say, ma'am, why are you taking that.
You don't really have the right to do this. You
guys are not really working under law. He said, no,
we are just section this that it shows us right here,
and he goes, yeah, but you're not including this section.
He would do this from memory. He would say, please
look grab your book and look up here where it
says that actually there's these contingencies that you And long

(01:23:48):
story short is that when you know the law, when
you really understand, then you see how much of a
fraud that this is. They'll actually pick and choose certain
things to use to intimidate you or they will abuse
those things. Oh, it's way way out to the point
of taking your children.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Well, this is the thing, and this is similar to
what you're talking about. The for the driver's license. They
put the people out in the front lines because none
of they can't they can't take a child. Number one
has to be staffed with a supervisor, an attorney, and
within twenty four hours ask to go before a judge.
So ultimately a judge is the one that you would
say knows the law or knows what does it that says, okay,

(01:24:29):
all right, this is okay. They have to buy Florida
law within twenty four hours. So people don't realize that
really the problem is way up the food chain and
not down at the bottom. You know, the ones that
have to dodge the bullets are the people on the
front line. And it's like, yeah, people don't realize that
there's and you know perfectly well that whether it's the

(01:24:52):
attorney that was staffed with or whether it's the judge
that it goes before there there let's say whatever state
there and but let's say Florida in this instance, they
know what the laws are, what they are allowed to
do or not too.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Yeah, so I believe, yeah, they know the federal you know,
the judges, almost every judge. I mean, that was a
big question when we were learning this, and we really
found out, you know, from whistleblowers and insiders, which there
were a lot, you know, in the eighties and nineties,
there were so many whistleblowers that came out just as
the Internet was coming up. There was so much great
information in people making contact with each other. But you

(01:25:25):
just you find out that the judges are for the
most part in on this. Yes, they know that you
are property. We actually went we tried. My business partner
got a speeding ticket once and she went in and
she said, I'm gonna experiment this, even though we know
what the outcome is going to be. She's like declaring
her right to travel in the constitution. The judges like

(01:25:45):
overruled anything else. Well, this this from the overruled, and
everybody wants to know, why can he overrule the constitution
because you are in a room flying a foreign flag.
The American flag with the yellow fringe is not the
American flag. I know people who have made judges because
you have the right, if you know how to do it,
you can have that flag removed for an actual American

(01:26:06):
free flag, complete peace, which looks identical, because that's part
of the deception. They make it look identical, except it
doesn't have the golden fringe around it. They actually will
bring that flag because the flag if in the execution
him a contract. And here's the punchline. I know this,
we've gotten way on the subject, but I love this stuff.
It's very fascinating. In the execution of any commercial contract,

(01:26:29):
if the law system is not stated in the contract,
what presides the law, then the law that presides the
contract is the flag. The law of the flag flying
in the presence of the signature of the contract. The
execution of the contract. That means, the flag that is
flying in that courtroom determines what law system is going
to happen. And I actually knew a guy who went

(01:26:52):
in there and he actually did that, okay, And long
story short, he the attorney that was prosecuting him for
the state for his uh insubordination because he wouldn't accept
the traffic ticket when he it was some parking ticket
or some silly thing, and he just stood up like nope, nope, nope.
So he ended up getting arrested. And then the next

(01:27:13):
day he was in the courtroom, the attorney got furious
and took his hand and actually crossed his table through
everything on the ground and said, you're not going to
pull this stuff on me. The attorney got upset because
he knew that the attorney doesn't really have the power
if the people know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Of course, and most people are intimidated totally.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
If you place yourself outside the system in the proper
way and give yourself proper authority, they can't do that.
And he was furious. Well, he ended up walking out
of the courtroom. No penalties, no problems, nothing ever happened
to him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Well, I remember one and this was this is many
many years ago, and I wanted for a traffic ticket.
I said, I'm going to fight this, you know, I was.
I was keeping my fingers cross, hoping that the police
officer wouldn't show up but get it dismissed. But anyway,
I'm sitting there and there's this one cop. Apparently he
had some type of speed trap because and they bunched
all his tickets, you know, everybody that wanted to fight

(01:28:04):
him for the same day. So I'm watching. One by one,
everybody comes up. It was something where they had sped
up or something, okay, and people will come up and say, look,
I don't know how he says that I was speeding.
I wasn't speeding. But anyway, from where he was saying
that he was at, he couldn't see me like to
point a gun. Four people went up, one, two, three, four,

(01:28:28):
same thing, did judge? Too bad? Officer? No, I have
I know you know, this person was coming blah blah blah,
you forget you know, three four, fifth person shows up
with an attorney. Okay. All the attorneys said was uh
and of course knowledge is power. I hate to say you,
but he goes, officer, well, whatever was your uh laser

(01:28:52):
or something gun? Was it calibrated to something? You get
this little you know, silence bottom line and gets thrown out.
I was sitting there, I go, So these four poor
drivers got screwed over with a traffic ticket for speeding,
and the one person at the end that came with
an attorney, like like within five minutes, it was over

(01:29:14):
just because he asked the right question. And I go,
there's something wrong with this that judge. Why didn't that
judge say, wait a minute, wait a minute, you mean that?
Because apparently this ticket, these tickets were all given out
the same day. So this judge wasn't to say, okay,
you know, what if if he didn't have his whatever
laser calibrated he was, he wasn't calibrated for any of
these four other people. I doubt those people they got

(01:29:37):
their their fees or whatever, you know, whatever they played,
whether it was you know, no contest or whatever points whatever,
And I was like, there's something wrong with this. I mean,
it's minor when you think of the world of law
and order, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Yeah, but it's still it's like treason is though. But
I mean, the judges know the scam, they know the scam.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Well, but they need they need the uh, which is
I think, as a matter of fact, is why a
lot of these across the United States, these hikes in
property taxes have become noticeable because they're they're funding you know,
they're they're taxing way beyond you know, you know how
supposedly your taxes are supposed to cover what is it,
you know, the schools or the trash pickup or whatever.

(01:30:19):
And that they've noticed all these humongous increases in property
taxes that don't go inside with what's actually being handled.
And I tell everybody, I grew up in Miami. I
was born and raised in Miami. And unless you lived
like like in a real ritzy area, you know, like
Coral Gables, that they don't even let your picture and
they've always never they've always been pain to the next

(01:30:41):
you know that they're so hungry for money all these uh,
whether it's the city or the county government that maybe
a few years ago one am, I have a house
down there and I had a branch that was sticking
out into the highway, into the high into the sidewalk.
It was, you know, how to bush. My son was

(01:31:01):
living there and calls me and goes, hey, Mom, there's
like a code enforcement guy says, I need to cut
this because if not, we're going to get fine. I
said to what he said, that there's a couple of
branches that are sticking out into a sidewalk and that
if we don't cut them off by ten days. I
was like, what is this about. I've never ever ever

(01:31:21):
had any code enforcement personnel come and try to ticket
somebody because a couple of branches were sticking out of
a fence of a chailing fence into the sidewalk. He
was like, this is ridiculous. But I think it goes
back to my point being that all of a sudden,
the over regular, regular regulations everything, it's you know, everybody's

(01:31:43):
like ah, because everybody's out to get you. You know
one way or the other, but I was like, this
is incredible. I've never heard of such a thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Yeah, it's amazing. I even the thing is that that
is so fascinating to me. As a psychology they use
to keep people in a state of fear, yes, you know,
and that's just once the fear is gone, you're going
to realize that the public had the power all along,
that this was a scam, that the country and this

(01:32:13):
nation has been stolen from you, Your rights have been stolen.
Licensing is immoral, property taxes, I mean, there's ways to
run government that are property proper and lawful, but they're
not doing it. Not to mention all the fraudulent so
called science and the damage and the life the damage
to people's property and lives is immeasurable. And it's kind

(01:32:36):
of like I tell people, the childhood of America needs
to end very quickly. We need to stop being children,
grow up and understand that the truth is hard and
what is going on is very hard to deal with.
But we need to be big girls and boys and
stand up and start looking at it right in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Yeah. I think that we got ourselves into the fix
that we're in now. Because we did that, we kind
of like, you know, it's like easier to just trust
versus this question because again, you know, in the back
of your mind, you realize if I start asking questions,
I'm not going to like the answers I get or
what I'm gonna find out, or how convoluted. And let's

(01:33:14):
face it, I know that that people they're very used
to the reality they live in their structure. There even
the people that are not, you know, very you know,
there's some people that are very structured that you know
you got to but as human beings, we like our rhythm.
You know, this is what I do. These are my habits.
When you start pushing, especially something as big as that,

(01:33:38):
that that a lot of people are like, no, I
can't handle that. I won't be able to function. It's like, well,
and here we are now everybody's gotten black pilled the
worst way.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Here we are now to the point where where literally
everybody you know is sick with something and it's all
being done to you and all your friends and relatives
that have died from cancer and any number of diseases
are suffered from diabetes or any number hundreds of other diseases.
Have actually been caused by mercury or other things that

(01:34:09):
you've been intentionally poisoned with, and now you're actually literally
have them sprayed upon you for the last twenty years,
which is why everybody you know seems to have something
wrong with them and people are dying very quickly, and
the lifespan the officially they announced that their lifespan in
the United States is decreasing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Now, I know, that's incredible to think of. You always
think it's the other way around that because of all
medical advances.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Well, what's even more incredible is that actually, when I
was in Western New York in two thousand and three
i lived there for a little while, I actually came
across an article that was on Reuters and it was
actually by a Ivy League professor that had researched the

(01:34:53):
senses of the United State of the world, okay, in countries,
and he actually found that the census number that are
being reported by all the countries he researched, which was
like most countries that he had access to, I mean
just many, many countries, was falsified and the numbers were
being artificially elevated. This wasn't just some guy, this was

(01:35:13):
an Ivy League professor. I think he was so.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
In other words, what they were reporting higher populations than
what they had.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
The punchline is that population has been decreasing for a
long time and they've been hiding it from the public,
trying to pretend that population.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Hey. Yeah, I was about to say, and why were
they doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Well, Christopher Keyes another researcher. I don't know. I don't
know a lot about him, but I heard about him
just recently did research.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
I saw this on the Breuter's website and I didn't
This was back in like two thousand and three. I
didn't have good screen capture software. So I found something
the next day because I'm a techie, and I came
back and the article was gone. I was like, this
is gold, this is gold. I want to capture this.
It was gone and I didn't get it. I'm just
kicking myself, right. It was a great article. I mean
I read it and I'm like, holy cow, this is

(01:36:01):
what I've been looking you know, this is how did
this slip through the cracks? Yes, because they do sometimes
things slip through the cracks, But it was absolutely gone
from most I no trace of it at all. So
I wrote an article about that years ago that that
I actually saw that. And then now Christopher Keys, that's
kind of a well known researcher, actually did the same

(01:36:23):
type of research in the last year came to the conclusion.
He actually said the census numbers are being lied about
and that the population of the world is at least
two billion less than what is being reported globally two billion.
This is what he said. The population of planet Earth
is two billion lower than what is actually being officially reported.

(01:36:45):
Now I wasn't able to audit his research, and I
don't know, but it's an interesting prospect based on what
I saw, you know, twenty years ago. It's very interesting
to see this coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Let me ask you, and he he did it on
on all on like developed nations, developed countries, or or
just a mix. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
I don't know all the details, but it was from
what I understand, it was a number of you know, uh,
you know, First World countries.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Okay, that's what I'm talking about, because you know, you
understand maybe some countries, because of extreme poverty or lack
of medical you might have a higher mortality rate. Then supposedly,
uh that would well because right now I think what
are pop Okay, be quiet. Our population is over eight million,
I think right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Now, eight billion. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Eight billion. I'm sorry, eight billion, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Yeah, that's what they say. But he says it's a
below six. That's what the when you actually get the
numbers directly from the sources and you and he's not
saying you know he So I would love to look
more into this when I get some time, but this
was just the last about three months ago, he came
out with an interview talking about this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Right, and what people don't realize is that we're used
living in a country where child is born and right
away it's registered, okay, But there's a lot of countries
where people are not registered as far as following them
if they lived or died, I mean, in other words,
to capture a true And I don't know if you

(01:38:16):
heard of this. I heard. I laughed when I heard this.
That was in Japan or there was another country where
they were doing all these studies, of course, because they
had a very high instance of sentence. You know, people
were one hundred years old. They were trying of course,
you know, what are they eating, what are they doing?
Why are they living? Oh blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Recently it came out. Oh my god. It was in

(01:38:38):
Europe somewhere. I wish I could remember that. It turned
out that these so called people, they weren't alive anymore,
but the families kept reporting them as alive because they
were receiving some type of pension from the government for
this person died years before old age. But they were

(01:38:59):
like supposedly all these are like, oh my god, this
village of this town or whatever it was, it's got
so many people that have gone beyond one hundred years.
What are they doing?

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Yeah, that reminds me of dead doctors, don't lie. I
don't know if you remember that from years ago that
was famous. Research came out. It's on cassettes. Cassettes at
the time, that's how old it was, Yes, but it
came out and it circulated. It went viral in those days,
and it was all about the oldest people in the world.
Were from the region of what's called Lake Titakaka, yes Okay,

(01:39:31):
which is where the part of their food, part of
their nourishment comes from glacial milk, which is actually the
water that runs off from glaciers through rocks, and it's
so rich with minerals it's almost white. It's like got
a white color to it because it's absolutely mineral rich
from fresh minerals from and these you know. So he

(01:39:53):
studied that, but it was it was viral at the time.
A lot of people have heard about it today, but
I think it's kind of faded, but it should come back.
But it's called dead doctors don't lie. If anybody here's
here's to listen to that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Yeah, yess like what you said that a lot of times,
like you said the latest science or medical movement. Oh
and then come to find out, but they never published
that part, you know about as far as noah, you know,
who knows. I have to really look it up as
maybe you know, they were pushing all these people eat
this certain diet and blah, this is why they've got
a long life. And nah, they were pushing up daisies

(01:40:27):
a while back. Some that kind of deal.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Well, it's so important to realize how often people are
lied to. And this is you know, my big moment
for me is when I was actually working with this
small political party in Florida. It was in Tampa Bay area.
We actually had an event and we had about five
thousand people at the event and it was a freedom
rally kind of event, and the news reported on it.

(01:40:52):
And this wasn't my biggest wake up. This is just
one of them. This was the primer is that they
reported there's like two hundred and fifty people there. So
whenever there are things they like, events they like, they
inflate the numbers. Whenever there's things they don't like, they
deflate the numbers. The big moment for me was when
I was studying Waco. Waco happened during this time I
was doing all this stuff and really studying. I listened

(01:41:15):
to the to the witnesses and the eyewitnesses and the
insiders and the whatever. And it was very interesting because
the news was saying over and over again because it
was a big event on the news every day, and
they said David Koresh, who was the leader of this cult,
was claiming that he was Jesus Christ, and they actually

(01:41:35):
played a tape of him saying I am Jesus Christ.
They actually played a video of him saying that, and
they'd say, so they're they're selling him as a wacko guiye, yes,
so I'm like, okay, so me and a group of
other people from this party said, let's research this. You know,
we researched this. We got teaching tapes from the Davidians.
They were called the Branch Davidians, Davidians, that was their

(01:41:56):
religious group. Kay, what do these people believe? Da da
da da. It turns out that that video clip we
actually found the actual source video clip on a video Okay,
you know back then we didn't have YouTube. You know,
we got the video. We got an actual video copy
of it right right, and the copy was of David
Koresh saying, if I could do this, if I could

(01:42:18):
do that, if I could you know, move mountains, if
I could change the orbit Earth or something like this,
he said, then I am Jesus Christ. He was literally
saying I Am not God. But they took that little
clip and that was the clip they played over and
over day after day, saying this guy's a fruitcake, he
deserved to die. As people, he had everybody brainwashed. And
we learn more and more and it's like this whole

(01:42:39):
thing was a lie.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Yes that they they they they're even doing it now
where they basically snip certain things out of context and
some of these big networks have gotten sued now lately,
thank god for altering. All Right, you guys, calm down.
But as a matter of fact, I believe Janet Reno

(01:43:03):
was the Attorney general at that time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Yes she was. She said, I take full responsibility for Waco.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
She literally and back in the member was ninety nine,
two thousand, No, it was over two thousand. When Elean
Gonzalez came into Miami. She was the one. She was
also the one that was behind returning him to his
dad in Cuba. And I'm thinking to myself, he had

(01:43:28):
a bunch of family here, and and you know, his
father of course, is saying, I want my kid back.
I'm dann, what do you think he's gonna say. You know,
he's probably got a gun help, you know, held to
the back, to his back saying you better say you
want your kid back, even though he might have said,
you know, you know, thinking I want to you know,
he's got family, let him stay there. But Janet Reno, yeah,

(01:43:49):
she's uh, she was. She was originally from Miami. So yeah,
so yeah, we see a lot of what if you
want to call it overreach. Oh that's a nice saying, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
That's a very nice word. Oh my gosh, yes, yeah,
horrible things for.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
My podcast listeners, Russ. What's your website.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Address, Global SkyWatch dot com. Okay, yeah, and you can
find all kinds of videos there. We have banned YouTube
videos that we archive there, and lots of information. I've
written articles about the patterns of spraying, the types, what
the symptoms are, the countermeasures that you can take, work
that we're trying to do to stop it. Why state

(01:44:30):
legislation will do nothing. That's why state legislation will not
stop this. I was the first person I know of
that actually brought this up, and finally it's everybody came
to their senses. It's like, why are you expending your
time on this? This is actually a military issue. And
then finally the administration actually admitted they thought it might

(01:44:50):
be a military issue. But again they're not telling you everything.
So Global SkyWatch and then I have a second website
called orbis Vitie. It's orbis ob which is Latin for orbit.
I mean circle in the tie, which is Latin for life,
so circle of life. Orbisfitide dot com. We have everything,
tons of subjects, thousands of archive videos there that have

(01:45:11):
been banned from YouTube and lots of great information.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Right, and that's unfortunately, yeah, there we are, which is
as a matter of fact, I think they're realizing, how
you know, you know, recently a couple of days ago,
when so many systems went down, when Amazon's Aws service
got in trouble, I was like, yeah, you guys, you're

(01:45:36):
putting all your eggs in one basket. But it's like
everybody doesn't realize how how teeter totter. A lot of
our life.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Is as far as fragile. The system is fragile because
it's centralized. Centralized systems are fragile nature, and the way
we're supposed to live is a distributed system. It's not
a centralized system. And that's a very robust system. Centralized
systems are corrupt and they're very fragile. So the the

(01:46:05):
the the uh. The message to be gained from the
outage is run your own DNS server, don't let Amazon
do it for you for those who know, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
And what's really funny is that all these major companies
I think to use I wait a minute, don't these
people have like these well paid executives or I t
people that would have said, hey, you know what we
got to do this because just in case, right, and
they don't They're like, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
It's truck. It's true. They don't think, you know, it's
things you don't think about, you know. They it's just
out of your out of your focus because it just
has always worked, and it's always been okay, yes, but
one day it will not be okay, of course not.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
Thank you again, Russ. It has been absolutely wonderful to
speak to you. I want to wish you the best
of look in all your projects.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Thank you, it's been such a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Thanks for We'll be talking soon.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Okay, Oh great, anytime, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Take care, bye bye you too. I'm sorry guys. If
I sound really sick, is because I am really sick. No,
it's not that I'm sick. I'm not running a fever
or anything like that. It's just like you know, when
you get a stuff. He knows. And I've noticed sometimes
like when there's a change of season, like like I said,

(01:47:18):
the temperatures dropped, you like and all of a sudden
you can tell like it's becoming fall. And I don't know,
maybe there's something in the air that all of a
sudden is like this combobulates you so, and he was
saying that thing about the countries. I'm like, oh, man,
don't make me go there. Don't make me think that.
It's just that it's fall and that's why all of
a sudden, I've got this head cold. Please don't say that.

(01:47:39):
But you know what the truth is, we can't we
cannot afford to be in denial. Okay, it's the kind
of thing that you can say at first place, you
because I don't want to hear that. I don't want
to hear that. But then you know, you should come
back to it and go and wait a minute. I
gotta know what's really going on. And I think that
a lot of the stuff that's happened in the last
few years, people are realizing this was happening on there

(01:48:01):
our noses, and we just like poo pooted, or were
too busy, or we didn't want to take a look
at what was happening. Laws that were being passed, just
things that it was like, you know, it was inevitable
until all of a sudden, you know, you've got the
boot on the back of your neck kind of deal.
And uh, like I said, most most normal people, all right,

(01:48:24):
I know there's people out there that like conflict and
they like spicy life. But overall, most people even give
them spice, give them small measures, but the rest of
their life they wanted like, hey man, let me, let
me don't make ways in my ocean. Whether they're themselves,
they're married, they have a significant another, they've got kids,
or they're older, they've got empty that whatever. Everybody wants
to like. You know, if I want spice, I'll go

(01:48:45):
look for the spice on my terms and for the
length of time. But don't throw it on me because
we all like our structure, all right. Let me say, nah,
I'm a fly man, not everybody. I don't care people.
Some people more than others. Some I know, there's people
that are more rigid than others. Just their mind and
they're and just the what makes them feel safe, makes

(01:49:06):
them feel secure is I need to have everything planned out.
I need to know, uh everything, and you know, you
get into the field of the control freaks. But okay,
there's always little outliers here and there. But overall, most
people like whatever their lifestyle is, they want to know
this is what I can expect, all right, And when
you start getting heaps of what we've gotten in the

(01:49:28):
last few years, people are like, what in the world.
I mean, this is not like a little shift here
and there, this is this is like, really what this is?
That's too much? Wait, what do you mean? You know
this is not a minor Uh well, you guys, you
know we're gonna implement this new law where whatever, you know,

(01:49:50):
you can't walk your dog on the sidewalk on Tuesdays
or some crap like that or whatever everything. And that's
the thing. Every day, and I mean literally every day
we get hit with something big and we're like what
as a matter of fact, and I agree with this.

(01:50:11):
The other I missed it. I heard it after the fact.
I heard where some guy, uh probably mentally ill guy.
Somebody ran his car to the front gate of the
White House. I don't know how far you got. I'm
sure you didn't get, but anyway, but i'mly once upon
a time, if somebody would have done that, it would
have made the news everywhere. Everybody would have been talking
about the crazy guy that ran his car into the

(01:50:33):
White House. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh,
the newspapers, all the news stations. I didn't hear about
a clock of the fact, it was like what happened
some guy? What ran into them? What it was? It's
become like something that wants not that long ago, by
the way, would have been like, wow, what's going on here?

(01:50:54):
You know, who's this person? Why did he do that?
Or he wrote? Oh? It was like okay, And I
guess we're being we're becoming jaded. We were oversaturated sometimes
because everything is happening so quickly that we like it's
like you know what I I and then and then

(01:51:19):
to top it off, we get fed so much information,
which by the way, I agree with us. Sometimes you
got to really verify your sources, but a lot and
if you're doing that, it's like how can this you know,
in other words, things that are coming to light that
most people are like, how could this have happened? Like,

(01:51:41):
you know, it makes people feel, for lack of a
better word, stupid, like how could this happen? How could
this have been going on? You know, especially when they say,
well since nineteen eighty three, and it's like, what what
do you means it's nineteen eighty three? You know, things
that that have been and it makes people feel ignorant
and stupid. Don't get me wrong. You know, there's people
out there that nothing is like they live like on

(01:52:04):
a second to second lifestyle. You know. They you know,
they were saying, an asteroids heading to Earth and it's
going to blow anything up. They wouldn't care. They would
just like, oh, it's it's over. There's that personality. But
over all, most people, you know, they they're living their
life and they're trying to take care of their family, themselves,
whatever's going on with them. But there's always been this

(01:52:25):
belief very deep seated by the way, UH, this trust
that all these things are being presented to us are accurate,
and then you come to find out it's not accurate.
It's a big whopper and it's been ongoing and in
the end, we were getting deceived, and nobody likes to

(01:52:46):
be deceived, you know, especially when you turn your trust over,
you know. And and it almost reminds me of I'm
gonna this is UH an analogy. It's a little bit
but kind of like you know, you for hear about
these sports people or singers that they go ahead and
they get some manager that manages them and they go

(01:53:08):
up the ladder and they make tons of money. They
think and then so they're trusting, they're trusting this person implicitly, okay,
and then ten years later, fifteen or whatever, they're they're,
they're whatever their career is, all of a sudden they're
told by their count, Hey, you know you're broke. What

(01:53:28):
do you mean I'm broke? How can I be broke?
I've made seventy million dollars in record sales or whatever,
whatever the case. Whatever it is that they do, well,
come to find out their manager has been taking all
this money and left that's left them high and driver
with virtually nothing. And it's like that kind of comparison
where you put this implicit trust in somebody. Sometimes so

(01:53:52):
I would detriment because it's easier that way. It's more
challenging when you have to like look out for things
on your own, be responsible, and then all of a
sudden it's like, man, how could this person do this?
And it's like, yeah, but how much did you allow
it to happen? And I think that that's where a
lot of Americans are right now, Yeah, you could complain,

(01:54:16):
but you have to also look at the mirror, say
what was my part in this, whether through action or
in action? All right? And even now, you know, you know,
I always kid about like you know that I come
across the UFOs and these things about the AI and
the artificial intelligence and the robots and everything. You know what.

(01:54:38):
The other day, what was it, no, yesterday, I'm watching
this old movie. I want to say. It was like
fifty seven, fifty eight, maybe nineteen sixty. I got the
tailor and I hadn't seen it a long time. It
was about this huge flying mantis, you know, and this
of course was big time the time of the Cold

(01:54:59):
War and stuff like that. In this case, you know,
but supposedly i'm listening to I'm looking at this, you know,
and supposedly, the if I remember correctly, the origins of
why this thing mutated was contamination, nuclear blass, something like that.
You know what. The case this is huge, I mean huge.

(01:55:19):
Excuse me, let me take a drink called on this
huge flyg mentis I finally didn't kill And I'm looking
at that, and it's like, man, even I know that
there was a lot of stuff going over with the
Cold War and all that stuff after World War two,
blah blah blah blah, A lot of stuff that's come
to light recently, but it was like, I don't know,
life was so much simpler, you know, you had to

(01:55:43):
your horribles were big giant flying mantises that had spawned
out of or the case of the blob that it
came from outer space, you know, and it was going
to take over everything. And now it's like all these
things see trivile and childlike because by comparison our reality

(01:56:05):
it's much more scary than what you see in these
movies from what fifty sixty seventy years ago, it's like wow,
you know, so yeah, I mean, I'm going to put
a link to Russ's website and the credits of the show,
so please visit it. He does have a lot of
information on his website about a lot of different things, okay,

(01:56:27):
and he it's a very well organized website with a
lot of like he said, the videos, links everything. He's
really on it. As far as let's put it this way,
that rabbit Hole is deep, is deep is deep? And

(01:56:49):
how's this? I want to say that for I think
for a lot of people that wings him out. I'm
talking about your normal lord here, which I consider myself
an army that what's upon a time if there was
a certain place, there's something that was happening. A family

(01:57:10):
could say I'm going to pick up and leave. I
want to move to another town or another part of
the country or something whatever, I'm out of here. But
what's going on is it's got this inescapability about it
that there's nowhere to go. All right. As a matter
of fact, here in the US, we have it pretty good.
We have it probably the best of everybody. But there's
nowhere to go. There's no Heidi hole that you're going

(01:57:31):
to say, Okay, I'm good here from this and this
and this and this and this and this. Yeah, some
places are better than others. I think Florida is one
of those. Okay, But even then, we've got our own
sets of problems, and it's this thing like there's nowhere
to go. I can try to minimize it or mitigate
the damage or whatever I'm exposed to or whatever's going on,
you know, whatever, the but there's inescapable and I think

(01:57:55):
that that is what weig so many people out if
they pay attention, if they're willing to pay attention, I
think about their future and their kids or their families
or whatever, you know, Like, hey, I would like to
stick my head on the had. But the truth is
that be kind of stupid, especially if you love people

(01:58:16):
around you and you just not selfish and you say,
you know what, yeah I could, Uh, I could not
pay attention to this and watch soap operas every day.
Just think it's another day in paradise. Now, those days
are over. They are way over. They're the rear mirror
as a matter of fact. So unless you're really, really
really old or very very young, which of course you

(01:58:38):
shouldn't have to worry about those things. All right. I'm
a big I'm a big proponent. You leave children to
experienced childhood. Don't make them into adults. Don't don't saddle
them with problems that that wigs them out. That's that.
Uh yeah, we better like he was, He was absolutely right.
We better put on our big boy pants and our
big girl pants and deal with it, deal with it

(01:58:59):
one way the other. Nothing's perfect, but God is better
than just going, oh my god, you know, the handwringing.
Oh oh, it's like stop that, stop that, get on
with it. So anyway, guys, I hope you like this
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(01:59:21):
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(01:59:42):
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