When Spirit Speaks | Interview with Trinity Oracles | Podcast - Stories of the Supernatural

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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you are all wonderful. So how's everybody doing today? Good?
I hope home and let me get rid of this.
I'm here, we go. Everybody doing good. Everything is good

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here on my end, and just really really hot. God,
it is brutal Florida. Man, even it's it's North Florida.
I'm telling you. I I'm out there early in the
morning and late at night, you know, not late at night,
but even now here it's We've got heat advisories all

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the way till eight pm. And like right now I'm
looking out my window and there's not a leaf moving.
It's hot, and not even a breeze is blowing. Right.
So yeah, besides that, you know, the last few times
we had talked about all this stuff going on with
the UFOs, But you know what, this week, what do

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you guys think about the earthquake and the tsunami that's
going on And the reason why I bring it up, obviously,
you know this is like I think it was like
an eight point eight on the Richter scale to have
that off the coast of that Russian peninsula and of course,
you know, every coastline along the Pacific, they told people

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they had to evacuate Hawaii, for US, Alaska, you know, Japan,
Like I said, any country that has some kind of
a coastline on the Pacific, they had warnings to either
evacuate or at least go up to higher ground. You know,
like even in southern California they have like all this

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stuff that's right there on the beach, and they were
saying that a lot of people don't realize that tsunami
when it comes back in, even if it's not that high,
I just it's just not water. It might bring debris
with it, which is and it so far from what
I seen. This was a couple of days ago. I
don't think I'm glad they evacuated people. Like even in Hawaii,

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they were showing how the problem is in some cases
where they were telling people you need to go to
higher ground, that they're the traffic was like gridlocked. And
it's like something to think about, is you know that
sometimes some of these earthquakes, because remember oh and then

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there the first thing we had the earthquake out by
the Peninsula, and now this, uh, the volcano that's associated
with it that's on that peninsula. Okay, that one's starting
to become like active. So I guess my point being that,
or is this if this volcano keeps erupting, is it

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going to cause because remember volcanoes and earthquakes, we're talking
to different things here, you know, is that gonna cause
more tremors and down the line as in more tsunamis
or waves? And I remember with some of my husband go,
you know what, I know, there's gonna be some video
of some guy either Hawaii or southern California somewhere trying

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to catch this wave. You know, some dumb ass Okay saying, hey,
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna paddle out there, catch the wave.
Because I hate to say, there's always one of these
real smart ones in there. But yeah, I'm hoping that
that's not it, because it would be I think that
that would be a pretty bad thing as far as

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the earthquake or the tsunami. But let's let's see how
that plays out, loved. And now let's let's go conspiracy link,
shall we. And I'm sure you've heard, you know, especially
with what happened out in Kerrville, Texas. You know, do
we have is the weather being manipulated and or helped
along or actually caused And I've heard it, everybody's heard

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it is do we have or somebody has the power
to cause earthquakes? That would be another one and I'm
not entirely sold on that one. But yeah, it's like okay,
you it's like, oh right, like I said, now all
we need is the mothership to land on the on

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a highway or something. But again, think about it, and
I want you guys to, you know, put some comments.
What do you think about Obviously, like I said, earthquakes
and volcanoes, that's the natural part of the earth. But
do you think, like like the weather manipulation there, do
somebody has the ability whether there is the scientific ability

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to cause either an earthquake, I'm not gonna say the
volcano part, I don't know about that or make it worse.
What do you think? What do you think? I'm put
your comments on there, but let me like, let's get
onto the good part. The good part is who are
the guests today? Because this is with an S at

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the end on it for Stories of the Supernatural, this
is the first time that they're here. Their names are Trinity,
oracles right, and they all are proficient psychics. The first
one is Erica. She's an intuitive sketch artist since childhood,
she unknownly channeled her psychic abilities at a young age.

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She employs a unique intuitive sketching method, connecting with her
client's guides to unveil the answers to their most pressing questions.
Erica specializes in pet readings and oracle card readings, offering
clients and personalized experience that goes beyond conventional psychic practices. Right,
then there's Candace. Candace is a dream interpreter with lifelong

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psychic intuition. She offers dream interpretations and spiritual insight through
oracle card readings. Her ability to feel things before they
happen creates a space propri found insights to help her
clients navigate their most pressing questions about life. And Jasmine,
she's a clear cognizance seer. From childhood, she possesses an

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innate clear cognizance, always knowing things before they unfold. Now,
as a well rounded psychic and seer, she offers oracle
hard readings, energy work, and spiritual life coaching for her clients.
Now They're They're They're psychic sisters, and they're they're they've
got a lot of clients, a lot of followers, all right,

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and you know, maybe maybe we can even ask them
this thing about what's going to happen if we're going
to get any more earthquakes or anything like that. Help
me welcome them. How are you doing? Let me tell you,
let me ask you. Obviously I was reading the bio.
Did you all discover your abilities? As young children?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
We had experiences. We didn't know that it was psyche.
We're just like, oh, this is just it's just whatever,
you know. We'd have experiences and move on like children do.
Then we got older, we were like, oh, that's that's
actually something right now.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
What I mean, you know as far as the let's say,
like divination, like the parts. But you know, sometimes psychics,
even when their kids, they'll like they'll have dreams or
sometimes you hear about kids saying, hey, I know somebody,
someone says gonna die or something, and everybody's looking at
you know, the families looking at them like what you know,
especially when the person ups and dies. Did you guys
have anything like that as you were growing up where

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you knew things that other people didn't.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I ever have dreams and they would come to light,
but I didn't think that it was like they were
like premonitions f dreams.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I just had dreams and I was like, Oh, I
saw that in my dream last night. Oh right, right,
that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
That's what I'm talking about, right right. Yeah. And then
the reason why I asked that is sometimes you talk
to people and those Oh yeah, we have a family
history of that, Like there's certain people in the family
that everybody in the family knows. Oh yes, so and so,
like you said, she'll have a dream and you know,
watch out or you know, things like that. You know.
So that's why I asked that. And you know, and

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then as sometimes as kids, depending on what your ability is,
it can be a little bit scary until you get
older and maybe you learn how to control it a
little bit and things like that. But at what, at
what point did you all decide to like, we're gonna
we're gonna do this, for lack of a better word, professionally,
we're gonna actually do divination and stuff like that. Oh

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that's okay, How did that? I believe it? How did
that happen? What dream or or you all of a
sudden you meet the right person at the right time,
or what what happened?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Like you and your.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Sisters should come together and you know, starts and I
brought it up to them.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
They're like sure, why so yeah, that's how it happened.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
So it was you were the one. Huh. It was
you and now you're not okay, okay, yeah that's and
then what happened is once you started doing it, it
just started. Because that's one thing I've learned about synchronosity,
Like that's how you know you're on the right path
is when you set out doors open for you. Okay,

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like all of a sudden you meet the right person
at the right place or you know, you know, like
when you're at the right place at the right time.
Things like you know even though yeah, but usually same
thing they say, like when you know that sometimes you're
not well, maybe what you're trying to do is not
good for you, because is when you run into all
these problems and maybe it's like is that really a
good path for you? But so you started to do that,

(10:43):
and what did you start out doing it, like in
person or a psychic fears or what did you start
doing or did you start going right away and doing
it online.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You too, YouTube.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Okay, yeah, that was something that was something we're not
a fan of that. The Spirit was like, you know,
do celebrity readings, and we're like, celebrity readings.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
We could care a lot about celebrities.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Like if you guys were like, watch our videos, you
always hear say, we don't even know who this person is.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But anyway, yeah, I know, I know, sometimes like the
celebrity in their own mind, you know, I know what
you're saying that. Sometimes there's people that you listen to
their name and you're like, who's that.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Exactly exactly, So we don't keep up with a lot
of like.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Celebrity stuff with Spirit kept saying do celebrities, and we
just kind of grudgingly did it. But you know, later
on we understood why Spirit was like, do the celebrity
readings because it was the best way for us to
get clients because there's so many fake psychics on YouTube.
I'm gonna call it out right now, there's so many
fake ones. But for us buy them do a celebrity reading,

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it's gonna show our accuracy and how people are like
re legit psychics, you know, instead of like people just
kind of just make it up whatever they want on
YouTube or what. Do they like to do general readings
where they just read what's in the book. It's like no,
this and this is gonna happen. And they're like, oh
my god, that happened. And then guess what they come
and get a reading from us, and Spirit is like,
we weren't able to get that message to that person,

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but now we're going to work through trining oracles to get.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
That message to you.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Okay, Now let me ask you just to I know
you put your names here for me. Are your jasmin
Erica's in the middle and your canvas? Right? Yeah, I
just want to make sure I don't want to okay. So,
and the reason why I say this that sometimes when
you do it for celebrities, it's even more important because normally,
let's say, even if you don't know them, but celebrity
stuff is out there. So when you do it reading

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for celebrity and you start telling them something that they
know is not out there, you know, like, there's no
way you could have heard this somewhere, that's when they know, okay,
you're legit because nobody knows that No, I didn't post
that anywhere. So they're like, okay, there's there's You're connected,
like you said to spirit. Otherwise there's no way you

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would have come up.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
With that exactly absolutely, So what do.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Let me add? Just out of curiosity? I think I
know the answer about I want to hear from you.
When a celebrity come to you, what are they looking for? Past, present,
or future? What is their main interest when they come
to you?

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Guys, we don't give personal celebrity. We never had a
reading for a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
If we did, we wouldn't know. Yeah, okay, but we
like we do readings on celebrities on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I understand you don't mean like a one on one Okay, okay,
I understand now. I thought that you had these celebrities
coming to you guys like one on one, like hey
what's my you know, what's my next big break? Or
hey whatever? You know? Okay, So in other words, you
doing it. So let me ask you. You must have

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have you ever said stuff that everybody's like, what about
a certain celebrity?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes, there a certain topic. We we did a video
about what's coming in with four We did a prediction
video and the whole roversus wave thing.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Okay, we're really upset, like you can't.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
The government would never been you know, right, you guys
are blind, and then when it happened, they were like, oh, you.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Guys were right right right. So in other words, you
even do like general topics like especially like at the
new the new year, you know, when the new year
comes in, like, hey, this which is exactly what everybody's
waiting for, you know, like, what's this you're going to
bring exactly? No, that's that's very understandable. So let me
ask you, how about are any of you psychic mediums

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as far as being in touch with people that have
passed on? Yes, all three of us you are, okay,
all right, excellent. What how's this? How do they how
do you do they come to you differently for each
of you dream or visual actual visual or in your mind?

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How is it that you guys know that what you're
seeing is somebody from the other side.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
We just call on them to be quite honest, okay, okay,
in just intentionally calling them and see because some come forward,
so some don't. Most of the time they do come forward,
and sometimes they don't come forward. They usually already reincarnated
already or they.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Might be like in a coma kind of in a
hospital situation. But yeah, you can hear them sense, they'll
give you visuals, feelings, all different sorts of ways.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Okay, okay, you know, I know exactly what you mean
as far as that you know what, And I'm glad
you mentioned it because you know, a lot of these
psychic mediums, you know, the ones that they do the
readings for people like oh that passed on, and they
always connect. And I say, you know what, sometimes spirit
they're not in other words, you know, because everybody thinks that,

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you know, when people go to somebody for reading about
somebody that's passed on, not sometimes the spirit it can't
or isn't really will willing or ready to like you know,
I'm not ready for that. I don't want to talk
to you guys, not because it's you, but I'm not
wherever I'm at, I'm not ready for that, you know.
And some of these sidekicks they always make a connection.
And my experience, you know, sometimes it's just not there

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for whatever reason. Or sometimes you might, like you said,
you feel the spirit, but they're just not, Like I
don't want to talk now.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I've had that happen yeah. Yeah, plenty of the times
they'll show up, but they.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Just don't want to talk.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
They don't want to talk right.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
You know, for whatever reason they have.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Did you guys ever had any experience, either together or separately,
that scared you. Yes, it happened Canvas.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Multiple This was way before we even started even tapping
into our spiritual gifts and stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I was in high school.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
This is a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
And I came home early one.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Day and I know, I was like, okay, nobody's home.
So I went running to my room on the floor
and I hear this big, deep, like male breathing in
my ear, just over and over and over again. And
I thought it was me because I just ran upstairs,
like maybe it's me. I'm tired out of breath. So
I go and I put my hand over my nose
in my mouth and then we stopped breathing, and see,

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I kept hearing it again and again, and I left
the house. So I was terrified. I was like, I
don't know what this is, but I don't like it.
So I just left the house.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I was like, no, okay, okay, that's funny, and and
what what what about you? Erica?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Thank you she was gonna go, well, I started meditating
in high school after like some spiritual bliss.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I was like, why not?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
So I started meditating and then I opened up some
portal I guess my psychobilia of being able to yes.
And then I said, I started hearing voices and heavy
breathing people calling my name.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
So I thought for a whole.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Year, and I like, told me, who told me I
wanted to meditate? What about idea?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
That?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I thought for a whole year in high school, I
was schizophrenic because I like, I like to recycle. I
like to use to re psychiatrics. I was like, but
then I noticed I only heard the voices when I
was meditating. So I'm like, I can't be crazy or
going crazy. That's what I was like, See psychic, something's
going on.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
How about you, Candace, You sound like you had more
than one experience.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Oh no, that was like my main one that I
could really remember.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Okay, so who remember.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Who's the.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yello?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay? You know what? Then I've got you guys inverted.
I'm sorry, Candace, Erica, Jasmine, Okay, Okay, I was watching
some of your videos. By the way, I've looked at
I was looking at some of your videos. But anyway,
go ahead, go ahead, job.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I'll never forget. It's funny how cans you're like, you know,
I was talking about myself.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I literally was home by myself and I had went
I remember walking into the house and I smelled like
cigarette smoking.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I was like, what's that smoke? Because no one at
our home, you know, smoke cigarettes. I was like what
I smell? And I was like, how maybe it's you know,
someone outside.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Whatnotes?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
I didn't think nothing nothing.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I went right upstairs and I went to the bathroom,
and I remember I was like finishing the bathroom and
I was kind of like looking at myself in the mirror,
and all of a sudden, I hear these heavy footsteps
boom boom, boom, come.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Out the steps. What the hag? And for some reason,
I felt like it.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Was male energy, like I just like you. I was like,
oh my god, there's like a man in here.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I'm starting to sweat.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
I'm like, oh my god, I hear it the footsteps
getting louder and louder and closer and close to the
bathroom door.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So I opened the bathroom door.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I was like, I'm just gonna open it, open it,
and I'm like, oh my god, there's no one here.
I went room to room looking for it and I
was like, oh my god, there's no one in here.
I was like, what the heck. And then after that,
I started smelling this cologne out of the blue and
I'm like what it was a male colonne.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I was like, what is this stitch?

Speaker 4 (19:35):
And all of a sudden it went away. That was like,
that was pretty super scary. I't even had I started
like eight, maybe seven or eight.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I was laying in the bed and I'll never forget.
I don't know what this was.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
It shook my bed like violently, and I remember I
was sleeping, so when I kind of woke up, I
thought I was like half awake, so I was like,
I'm probably still dreaming.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
And then like I oh my eyes and the bed.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I actually saw the bed shaking. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
And then I'm like, I'm still trying to tell myself
this is not real. Maybe I'm still like half a sleep.
I love never forget this. I look to the right
of my bed and I actually saw a print starting
to be formed in my mastress.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, And I was like, oh my god, you could
just see it just going sinking things. And I was like,
oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
That stayed there for a few minutes, and I remember
I left the room and I came back, the dip
was still there.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I left the room, I came back and then it
was gone. Yes, in the same house we lived in.
When the doll was standing in the hall yeah it
was doll was the doll was standing in the hallway.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
He had like a little doll and the doll was
standing in the hallway like someone was holding the doll
like in place, like it was the weirdest thing.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I was just like what.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
And I take it you guys there anymore. It's like
the reason why I asked is because a lot of
times when you were like the abutting psychic medium, it's
not per se that your house is haunted. It's that
they come to you because they're hoping that you can
talk to them or hear them or something. So that's

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when all of a sudden, like out of the blue,
you start having these experiences. You smell stuff, you hear stuff,
you all these things and you're like, okay, where did
this come from? And and some of them don't want
to be turned away by the way they they they
they like, there's there's something about you that lets them

(21:37):
know that you're not like maybe other people that they
that doesn't see, hear them, nothing like that, and that
you guys are willing to open it because there's a
lot of people that you know, even if they have
the ability, they they're like, I don't give this, especially
if it's got to do with dead people. But you know,
when they they want, when they see that there's an opportunity,

(21:57):
then that's when they And the reason why I say
this is that been doing paranormal investigations since the nineties,
and every once in a while we would have, you know,
our team, we would have people. I would have some
of my teammates call me up and say, Marlene, I
know somebody came with us. They came with me. I
feel them. And we learned after a while that you

(22:17):
don't you don't engage in conversation. You know, you don't
do like that what's your name? No, no, no, no,
don't do that. You feel like you know, and then
eventually they'll go away, like give them a couple of days, three,
four or five days, because if you start with what's
your name and oh, and or trying to forget it.
They're like they just hang around. And sometimes because what

(22:37):
happens is when you do paranormal investigations along the way,
you become more sensitive, even if you're not a full
blown psychic, just because of the work. So you'll get
what I call free floaters that even if you went
to an investigation and there's supposedly somebody there, there's others
that come from around that are not attached to a place,
and they'll follow you, either because you remind them of

(23:01):
somebody in you or that just that ability that you
talked about that you might be able to hear or
see them or even sense them. So we learned it
was like whenever we went to an investigator, it doesn't
happen all the time, you know that. It was like, okay,
you just pretend like, no, I don't see you, I
don't hear you. I'm not going to talk to you.
I don't you know if I smell anything, I'm not

(23:23):
going to be like oh. And eventually they and this
is especially you know, like if you have a good
strong aura, they kind of like they eventually they just
really can't get in there with you. And that's a
whole lot of different things spiritual attachments. But let me
ask you the now that you're talking about communicating with

(23:46):
the spirit world, have you, guys ever run across anything
that's not a human spirit, that's an inhuman spirit that's
tried to communicate with you guys.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yes, I had aliens. I can tell like and like,
that's not a human. I've told them like I don't
know if this spirit guide is. I'm like, this is
not human. But they'll start showing you or telling you
what kind of galaxy they're.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
From, like me, yeah, like I'm just like and then
some people even tell you like, oh, I know, like
my spirit.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Guides are angels, you know, they're like an alien or
something like that. They can tell they can feel like
they're a little different.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yes, okay, so yeah, the the how's this? I mean,
I did have no I have no therapist for many years,
and a lot of people don't really And I used
to do alternative and I used to do spirit attachments,
and there's a school of thought of people that have
Normally some of the attachments that would get spiritual attachments

(24:42):
would be attachments of dead people like regular humans, you know,
stuff would happen. Let's say I'm gonna give you an example.
Let's say a couple dies. That the husband dies, right,
and the wife is so grief stricken she starts with like, oh,
don't leave me, stay here. You know, one of those
things that people they when they're really in pain. So

(25:02):
what happens is the spirit of the husband, instead of
going on and doing what he's supposed to do, he's
like all worried and she's here begging him don't go
and who Now what happens is that you in that
grief because emotional trauma will thin out your aura. What
he does is he attaches himself to her inside her aura,
trying to comfort her. Okay, two three, four months, you know,

(25:24):
pain goes away even you know. What happens is now
this guy's stuck in the aura. And then that's another process.
But they have run across attachments that are what you
just described, which is ets okay, yes, that when you
question them, you realize after wow, this is not a

(25:44):
human spirit because it's an extraterrestrial and a lot of
people have a hard time putting their heads around that.
You know that they because it's exactly of what they're
shown or what they say. They're like, what what happened
with you?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Erica?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
What was the experience you had with that?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
No, it's just a person asking like who their spirit
guides were.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
And then I kept getting that their spirit guides were
not actually all human, but they were geting messages that
I can say there.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And then I've seen something.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'm like, I don't even know what that is, like
some weird it's not human, No, it's an animal.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
It's just a weird energy. But then it's not a
bad energy. It's just weird from somewhere else, like a
different mention. Maybe we're just talking then, you.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Know, haven't you know what it's like? It's like, let
me break it to you. You know what your guide is?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, and I said they usually they usually know. They're
like you always felt like there was like aliens around
me that my family had like alien lineage or something
like that, Like they know, both of them, they.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Know, right, And you know what, you get a lot
of theories out there. Are they from the plates, are
they from articular whatever? Are they? God knows? Are they interdimensional?
You know? In other words, that's that they don't they
don't travel like you know how we think of linear
like in a space ship light. But they somehow or
other they can they can go from one dimension to
the other, which is how there's a lot of stuff

(27:06):
that we don't out there, especially with all this ET
stuff going on. But a lot of people don't realize,
oh in them. A couple other times, people that had
run across, by the way, the people that ran across
these et attachments, these were like psychiatrists that were hypnotizing people,
not for they weren't hypnotizing them for a spirit attachment.

(27:29):
They were let's say, hypnotizing people for like let's say
age regression. Let's say you had some type of fear
and you didn't know why you were scared of whatever.
Sometimes what they do is these doctors psychiatrists don't regress
you like h regression, to take you back and maybe
you see what it is. Right. So basically these doctors,

(27:51):
this is when they would run across these things like
they were like what And once they got over the
disbelief that they started communicating with them, they said, that's
some of them. What they were doing is monitoring that
human right for emotion. In other words, there was this
you know what you're thinking of? I do believe, yeah,
that there could be spiritual but it was like, I mean,

(28:13):
it's a hard concept to take in that they could
be attached to a human being, not for let's say,
for the purposes of helping them as a guide, but
basically to monitor them almost like I don't know, maybe
they don't have emotions the way we do, so the
best way to observe like human emotion. But when you

(28:35):
start going into that area of guides, I agree with you,
sometimes you got to be a little bit careful as
to what is really a beneficial guide. How's that?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, it's true, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
And I'm sure you guys have heard of people doing
the Ouiji board and then at the beginning, the spirit
is real helpful and telling you all this great stuff
and helping you out, and then little little you know,
once the person gets hooked into it, then it starts
getting really weird and really dark, and you know, like

(29:09):
and sometimes that's that's why you have to be really
careful who you accept as a well, not accept, but
who identifies it is really, like you said, as a
real guide, because you know, once you give them that
that invite in, it's like, yeah, so do you you
each have your own individual guides though, right as far

(29:31):
as your psychic abilities, yes, yes, okay, you don't have
somebody that goes visiting. All of you have your own
individual It's like it's your turn today.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
You have you guys ever had because you all do
the cards?

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
The tarot cards, oracle cards you got? Oracle cards? Do
you use zerracle cards? Do you have is it? Is
it the same interpretation for the oracle cards or do
you have your own separate you know how some of
them have different meanings, kind of defending who designed them
or or how how's this? What did you choose the

(30:15):
oracle cards you got?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I chose mine. I saw my orcle cards for months
and then I went to a store and they were there.
So that's what drew me to those cards. It's very
you're really using your psychic abilities. Sure, that's what we
discovered based off of tear.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Sure, of course, of course, because you've how's this? Your
subconscious mind stores a lot of information. But when you
start bringing in information that there's no way you've never
heard it, you've never seen it, There's there's no way
you could know this, you know? Then you know that
what's what's with you're channeling the spirit, all right, especially

(31:00):
when let's say you're doing a reading, either for forecasting
an event or for a person. It's like, there's no
way I know that. There's no way I could know this.
It's just impossible. And how about Erica, how about you?
Do you do the oracle cards too?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes? All three of them actually do oracle card readings,
all three of us.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, okay, and do you how's this? Do you put
your own interpretation on the cards? Because you know how
some cards depends. I don't know the cards that the
oracle cards that you've got, if they've got any signage
or if you look at it, and then what comes
into your mind is what you de.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Look, that's how I do it. Yeah, I don't. I
never read the book.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah exactly, That's exactly what I'm going with that.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, I just got my own interpretation.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Whatever I like hear from spear, whatever I like, you know,
feel or send some spirit, that's what I You know,
I read the cards.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Even the colors mean certain things for people. You'll get
a okay the cars and they're like, yeah, that's that's
how I feel. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Sure. So In other words, exactly. You're not partial because,
like you said, I read the book, and the book
says you know that this card means that, you know,
whenever somebody is jealous or something like that.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yes, I never read the books.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't know what the part is meant, what their interpretation.
I do my own interpretation. I get a channel channel them. Yeah,
you can even channel based off the person's name. We
use cards as a tool, like we don't have to
use cards.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You don't have to use cards, okay, because Erica, you
do sketching, right.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yes, I do that also with the cards.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
That is very cool. So what happens do you do
sketching for everybody or just somebody that you think this
is a sketching moment?

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Honestly, Uh, it really depends because some people they want
to see the cards. I'll use the cards for them,
but I always write down their name, and then I'll
start seeing messages or energy about them.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Just writing on their names.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I'll just start scribbling things and so as if pull
a card.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
And then I got like, what does that mean that
I'll scribble what it means for them on the So yeah,
yelling the answer.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
It's like that not thinking. Yeah, I just I don't think.
I just shut my brain off let the answers come
to me. So that's what I do.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
But the image is move for you on the cars too, right,
like when you're looking at them. Yeah, they images move sometimes.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yes, really, yeah, that is excellent because I look at
the color most like I read really colored.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
To be quite honest, I don't really read the I
just read like the red might be something else, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
It might be something something like passionate or someone.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
I might be anger for someone, or might be happiness
for someone, depending on their energy that I'm getting for them.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Sure, sure, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm scratching us like get the same thing.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Candice. How about you? What's what's when you're when you're
doing uh, when you've got oracle cards? How do you
look at you know, interpret them just straight?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Have you yelled?

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Have you ever had how's this? What happens? When would
you see? Or is not that good? How do you
handle it? Telling the person?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
I just say to them I'm a spiritual spirit just
kind of just exactly there you go. You just gotta
you know, just let it out, you know. But sometimes
we've learned. I had to get over the fear of
telling something. So telling something negative to someone because it

(34:28):
could save their life, it could change the trajectory of
their life. I mean, say, if you're like, ooh, I'm
seeing diabetes in your future and boom, they're like, you know,
diabetes runs in my family, you know what, And next
you know, they get a nutritionist.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
They change how they eat, they don't get diabetes.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
So it's like learning to see almost like the silver
lining in giving bad news.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
We have to feel your client though, because some clients
like they like it straightforward send Some of them like
for you to be like more like calm.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
They're is like you know, and you know what I'm
going with this. I'm like, you know, there's the one
that comes to you like, hey, I want to be
with so and so. Yeah, you're looking at them and
you're looking at the car and you're like that, so
it's not in your future, you know. I don't I
don't want to hear that. They want to hear that.
You're going to say that person's coming back or something,
and it's like, no, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Like some girls like me and this person partner, we're
gonna make it. And I was like, they're not the one,
but she's like, okay, well I'm just gonna fight for
this relationship. I was like, well, you can do what you.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Want right exactly. You know, Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
You give it to them. It's like you might not
like this, but sorry, but this is what I see
because it's like, sometimes you know, people, for lack of
a better word, they be, especially when it comes to
that love thing. They become obsessed about certain things and
they're like they just and sometimes you look at the

(35:53):
it's like, man, I wonder how I want to tell
you this, because I don't think you're gonna be happy,
you know, and like, you know what, And what's really
funny is you you were right, you know what if
this person is really going to make them miserable in
the end, you know. And here you're all caught up
because now you're like love and all this, and you're like, man,
I don't think that you're you might be a person

(36:13):
Number one might not be into you a number two.
You maybe you don't know the person the way you
think you do. Have you ever had that where you
have to like spill the beans, Like I'm like, hey,
this person is really this way. Have you ever told
anybody that?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yes? And some people know that that person is like that,
and they just want the confirmation like I knew this
person was like that. Okay, they'll say my friends and
family and they said that about them too, and I
just never seen it.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
And you're they're like, you're a complete stranger telling me this.
They must be right, mm hmmm mm.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Hmm okay, okay. And the reason is because sometimes and
I'm gonna say, I want to go back to that
love thing because I think that sometimes that's when you
know when because you know, like you know, when people
are in love, they think that it's this other person
and it's just the best thing, you know, Yeah, and
you know, and you might be thinking, man, I see

(37:05):
this person might even be involved in another relationship or
or this person's not really a good person, and you're like, well,
should I tell you this? Or am I going to
let you find out on your own?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
You know?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
But then again, like what you're saying that you feel
like this obligation that you're getting this message, I need
to deliver it, and hey, if you listen to it
and you go with it, good And if not, what
do you know that's up to you ultimately.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
M h.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Now, I'm gonna get on. Let's let's let's move on
from personal stuff. I want to say what I opened up.
Have you guys done anything about this thing with I
don't know, did you see that thing about the earthquake
in that tsunami that's coming into the Pacific. Have you
guys ever gotten any impression or anything about that? Have
you guys done a reading for it? How's that?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
No one yet?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Let me tell you something that is that that stuff
like that wigs me out. I got a lot, I
got people, I got I got friends and family out
in California. You know that, you know you're thinking, God,
is this just? It worries me sometimes? So I'm thinking,
you know, like they said, then another volcanoes erupting, and
I'm like, oh crap. And I guess also because like

(38:22):
if you look at the newscast, you see people like
they've got these traffic jams, like people like trying to
get out, like to leave the area, and they're stuck
in traffic. And I'm looking at this and I'm like, Wow,
this is not good. So I would love it if
you guys ever do like a future thing, you know,
on your show. As far as the earthquake stuff, especially

(38:46):
along what they call a Pacific rim, you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
They are bringing say, there is going to be another
big earthquake go in Indonesia.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
They keep bringing up in Indonesia.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
And well, yeah, okay for a.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Big earthquake in Indonesia pretty soon we do. It'll be
like two hot spots. We do do world events on
our YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
We do talk about the weather sometimes that's in our
world and it's in our world prediction videos, and it's
on our website also.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
On what do you guys see as well? How's this?
I'm gonna give you a perfect example. I grew up
in Florida. There's always been hurricanes, you know, and you know,
when the hurricane was calming, everybody watch it, you know whatever.
But now I think we've got so much information to
start wigging out too early. Because even now I get
like a daily weather advisory on this heat advisory, you know,

(39:37):
So we're all like a little bit like over the top,
you know, as far as worrying, how's this? Worrying too
much about? Unless it's something that how's this that? Sometimes
it's like, man, save the the the wigging out part
for like really dangerous stuff, like really important stuff all right,
Like now like we're getting heat advisories. I understand that,

(39:58):
you know, stuff like that, But sometimes I think we
we over we get so that after a while people
don't you know how here in Florida the same thing.
They'll have eventually evacuations because a hurricane, and people sometimes
they just don't pay attention to the evacuation warns anymore.
They just stick around because they're like, ah, nothing's gonna happen.
Why because they've they they're desensitized to all the updates

(40:21):
that they get. But this thing about that you were
saying about Indonesia, what other hotspot did have you guys
come up with as far as maybe being a place
that that there's gonna be some type of quake activity
at India? India be a big one really yeah, And they.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Said, and they just gave me a vision of the
Polynesian Islands. So there's gonna be some type of earthquake
hitting one of the Polynesian islands. Okay, yeah, let me
tell you that people will not be prepared.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Well, you know when that one up and was it
twenty eleven, the one that happened in Indonesia, that that
big tidal wave came in. One of the things that
they learned from that is that they had no warning
you know, the warning systems that now they have, that
they have these sirens and all these things. Get out
of here. They had a bunch of people, tourists running
around the beach. Everybody's like, that's why they had so

(41:20):
many people die because they had no idea of what
was going on as far as I get out of here,
like and I know that. For example, for Hawaii, they
turned back a bunch of flights that were going from
the US, you know, from the mainland over to Hawaii.
They turned them back. And I'm thinking myself, you know what,

(41:43):
I'd rather probably really be upset because if I'm on vacation.
But still, yes, yes that but India, Yes that that
would be interesting to see what happens with that. And
again the earthquake that got that volcano in like about

(42:06):
three weeks ago, off the coast of Alaska, they had
a tremor okay where along the one of the islands.
It was like right off Alaska's the Alaska's coast, and
they've they kind of did like a little evacuation off
what they call Sandpoint and Kodiak where they told people
get away. And I guess my point being that these things,

(42:27):
with these earthquakes, they start off like little stuff, you know,
a tremor here, a tremor there. You know, maybe a
little bit of waves, and all of a sudden you
get this big giant and that last one that happened, well, no,
I'm thinking twenty eleven, that was the one in Japan
that you know that the nuclear reactor exploded because of

(42:47):
the wave and stuff like that, things like that, So
you know, I look at that, and how about what
do you as overall? As far as the weather, what
do you think? What do you think is going to
happen for the rest of twenty twenty five with the weather,
It's just.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Going to take it hotter. Oh let me tell you
how this world is going to take it hotter and
hotter and hotter.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
God bless America. Let me tell you something. It's like,
I'm not kidding you. I run out in the morning early,
and then I wait till like maybe seven or eight
to go outside. And my grass is growing, but it's
so hot that I can't even cut the grass because
it's like, you know what, I feel like your eyeballs
are melting. It's like my eyeballs are sweating. God, yeah,
it's around here. It's As a matter of fact, today

(43:36):
we had a high of It was a high of
ninety six. Now, I was born and raised in Miami.
I'm used to heat and humidity. Believe me, I can
tolerate a lot of heat and humidity. So it's not
like I'm from like someplace where like I gotta take this.
But let me tell you something. This heat is brutal.

(43:59):
And I'm thinking, man, am I just getting older? And
I'm like, you know, no, no, no, no, no, this
is I'm used to. I'm used to really hot, humid weather,
and yeah there's hot days. But god, now we're like,
you know, even we let out our dogs and normally
we have to call them in, like, hey, you guys,
come in. No, man, they meet us in the door,

(44:21):
they go out, they do that and they come right
back in. We even have to call them in. Everybody's
And I've got my poor chickens. I go out there
and I check on them and everyone's and I want
and I'll sprinkle them with water and they're looking at
me like, thank you. You know what, it's believe it
or not, extreme weathers. They're even stop laying some of
the eggs. I'm not getting his eggs. All these weather

(44:43):
stuff even affects animals even when they lay eggs. Like
everybody's like, forgot laying the egg lady, you know, sorry,
you know, everybody just hangs out on the shade and
looks at me. Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, that's the that's
one of the things that that that you know, you
look at I mean, how's this how weather's inconvenient? And

(45:04):
I know some people, you know, if they don't got cooling.
But you know the other extreme uh weather stuff, that's
the one that or what happened in Kerville where they
had that big flood come along and all that other
stuff things like that, where the people aren't ready for it,
even though I understand that was like a flood area
like in other words, it was like a place had

(45:27):
flooded before on occasion and they just didn't take the
proper precautions unfortunately. So let me ask you the what
do you when you are guys decide to do a
prediction on something, there's this spirit that talks to you
and tells you this is talk about this or how
do you decide?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
You mean like fortue yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, yeah, let's hand YouTube. Let's sayd YouTube. You guys
are going to do.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Oh yes, Usually just whatever the hot topic is for
the day or for the week, we just do a
video on that.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
People will be like, what's going on with she has this?
It's trending, like like the e F scene stuff that's trending.
Trump stuff always trending. So I mean, we just do
the videos based on what's trending.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
That's what we That's how we're just right. Okay, So
you look at that and you say, so, how does
how do you do? You guys feel confident that you're
you're on the right track from what I'm seeing. I
was looking at some of your videos. You guys are
really good.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
You know you're like you're have you ever? Have you
guys ever someone sees something and the other was like,
that's not what I see.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
We'll be seeing like different timelines. Like for example, it's
like like we'll use a portion of Simon from Brittle
Housewives with Atlanta and it's like you might see them
breaking up, but the other sisters like, but I see
them staying together. So it's like I'm seeing them breaking up,
but Erica is seeing maybe five months later they're going
to get.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Back together, you know what I mean. So she's further
along exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
So that's why as soonimes we'll get varying things, but
it just means those two events are going to happen.
I'm just seeing what's gonna happen first, and she she's
seen what's gonna happen second. And then people come back
and be like, oh not Jessy, or oh my god,
you guys were right, they did break up.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
And then it's like, maybe five months later, oh my god,
you guys are right, they didn't get back together Eric Wells.
So it's like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
So that's why different things will come out.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
And we get a lot of people because when we
do videos, we don't really remember what we say. People
are like, oh, you said that, and we're like, we
didn't because we're watch because it's just channeling, you know,
you know, you know, you're not thinking about what she
made exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
We have a lot of correct predictions, Like you go
on our website and we have a page dedicated to
all the right predictions we've made from the video or
the blog post where we said it was going to happen,
and you know the article, So.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
We have other kays.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
All right, yeah, that's how let me ask you how
about Yeah, sometimes you have these celebrities are like brand
new celebrities. Do you ever see a this person is
going to be somebody or you never see that where
somebody's just like like you're gonna be seeing more of
this person.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
This is either like that before like some like celebrity kids,
I will see them and like for example, Beyonce's daughter,
people ask for reading about her like we might see
her in the spotlight. You might not, so we do
readings like that. I guess you're gonna follow her mom's
footsteps and be you know, a singer, singer, actress.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Right in other words, yes, And that's why I'm saying that.
Sometimes you'll see people and at the beginning they look
really great and then they kind of fade off, and
then others start and then before you know what, they
just like they're great and they become like a I
remember when this person was like hardly known, and now
they're they're they're they're everywhere. Now I'm going to ask

(48:44):
you guys, and this is and you might understand you
know that now this is also this big thing. Now
is a I and robotics and you know everything like that.
To me, the flip side of it is spirituality because
I don't care you can feed those information to a
robot or to AI. It still is not spiritual. It's

(49:06):
not doesn't have imagination, It can't. How's this? It can't
do what let's say you do? You know only the
houses the information that's given to it. But have you guys,
ever gotten any feedback as far as what the impact
of robotics or AI are going to be for humans?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah, AI is going to be.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
AI is the future. AI is going to be something
that will never be replaced.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
It's just going to keep getting bigger and bigger and
better and better, and it's going to help humans a
band so much. There's this repeated message I always hear
from spirit saying, don't fear AI because there's gonna be
so many cures coming out because of AI and these
quantum computers and supercomputers coming. And I mean AI has
been around since the eighties. It's just that a lot

(49:55):
of the people.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Didn't know if you're being used like Ronald Reagan was
using AI to put his voice.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Out and you know, show things on TV and people
people didn't know that. So it's just gonna get even
more just amazing.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Well, you know what, you know what, and sometimes you
think about this. You know, most people, I think most
people are on board with, like, if life is going
to make me, it's gonna make my life easier. Yes,
that's great.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
The thing is like, you know, everybody I think hangs
their hat on this Terminator movie where all of a
sudden AI becomes sentient and yeah, so of all humans
and then that's it, it becomes self aware. I think
that movie kind of embedded in the people because that
movie came out like in the eighties, and that's always

(50:44):
been the thing that always people fear, is like, oh,
that's great AI and robotics. But the next thing, you know,
is like it's like no more humans around by because
you have the ability to turn us off kind of deal,
you know. And I think that's the one that worries
people most of the time.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
They won't get to that because AI does not have soul,
and that's when people are forgetting that AI will never
have a soul is never going to It can only
do what humans programming to do more. But it's never
like spirits always like it's never going to become sentient.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Some people have argument.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
They're saying, some of these robots and stuff they're building,
they have a mind and their own they're getting information
now they didn't program, and that that's what people are
scared of.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
That Oh, because that's why, because AI pulls from the Internet,
from every single soul.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Just like what's the movie No with the girl Meg,
the movie Meg, She's pulling all this information and people
were scared at her.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
But that's but they were saying that she basically had
like no soul, like she didn't care like who she hurts.
She was just like I'm doing this because the Internet,
And that's when we were scared. Yeah, but it's like.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
All of a sudden, you know, you've you know, eventually
everybody ends up like with a household robot and then
all of a sudden, your robot's looking at you and
you're like, huh, it's like wait a minute. You know
what the other day I was reading and you're right, robotics,
not that robotics, but advances. They were sailing like around
the like around the nineteen hundreds, before there used to
be sailing ships, you know, say, you know, everything the

(52:13):
ships were like sail like wind power. And when they
introduced like steamships, like ships that you know that they
had the steam in them, it put this like the
clipper ships out of commission all right. Then when the
automobile came in, everything that was horse drawn went bye bye.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
So the advances even you know, they always like kind
of do away with like some type of what you
want to call it mechanics or whatever. And everybody's like,
oh my god. You know as a matter of fact
that we're saying, I was reading this thing about uh
it was a research I was doing that when the

(52:50):
sail ship and the steamships that were overlamping, that all
the experienced men, all the captains went on and signed
up with steamships, and they couldn't get anybody to captain
these sail ship, the ones, the sailings, the ones that hey,
you have to put up. Some of them had sales,
but there were no steam, Like if the wind and
blow in the right direction, you're out of luck, you know.
Until finally, because everybody was like jumping on the new things,

(53:14):
you know, and I think that personally, I think it's great.
I like the technology, but at the same time, you know,
you look at it. I can't get and I know
this is the Hollywood thing, you know at some point
is because I think that, how's this? I can see

(53:35):
where if you know, we end up with household robots.
Pretty soon you get attached to your robot, you know
what I'm saying, and that you know, you're thinking, what
was it? What was that movie? I robot? You remember?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Would they do the download? Like they replaced the robots
and the new models that were coming in, We're getting
this download?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
And I think that's the part that wigs most people out,
which is like, man, it's great if I have a
robot around the house that does all the housework. What
if whoever has like a download or capabilities, all of
a sudden does this download where your robot says, no,
you're not going anywhere, and you're like, what.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Movie? Remember?

Speaker 2 (54:26):
The robot kind of turned on them. It was like,
I'm not gonna be nice anymore.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Right right? And I think that's the one that's lurking
in behind everybody's you know, in the back of their mind, like,
you know, I like my robot and then the next thing,
you know, because I think human beings were like that.
We're built that way. We get attached to cars, animals, houses,
you know, it's you know, you have good memories, and
I think eventually we would get attached to something like

(54:51):
a robot that would hung around. And remember they they
make them look human. They not too long ago. There's
a I don't know, do they have BJ's where you
guys are at, like that wholesale that's like the costco
kind of thing. It's like with that warehouse. Okay, we
have a we have out here in Florida something called

(55:12):
BJ's and it's like that warehouse type of shopping when
they got all you gotta buy everything and it's like
industrial packaging. Okay, So there's one out here that they
put a little robot and it's little robot. The first
time I go into the store, I hear something whistling.
Who like, what in the world is that? And me
and my husband we look at each other and they

(55:34):
have this little robot and it glides. It's about maybe
three or four feet tall. It's gliding along and it
whistles and everybody loves that whistle. And what they did
is in the little led screen in the front, they
gave it eyes. And what they're saying is that what
it does is it's it's like an inventory scanner, like
it goes and it checks inventory and it just walks

(55:57):
around doing that whistling. And I think that'slf. Yeah, you
know what, that whistling thing is a very human thing.
And when you look at it and the big eyes
on the led, they blink, and I'm like, you know
that that's what humans, that's what we like. That's as
a matter of fact, that's what we attracted to with babies,
the big eyes. And that's why anything that us as humans,

(56:19):
we react to the big eye thing. And I was like, man,
you guys are trying to condition us to like that
little whistling robot that's walking around here going.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
You know right, I heard.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
About not that robot, but when you brought about the eyes,
I saw something.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
And they were talking about like they put the eyes
on there to make sure they blink so that we
start feeling more comfortable exactly humanize it.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes. The other day I was they
were showing the you know, because you know, they're developing
the robotics to go into like into uh military stuff,
but they what they call these dog kind of robots,
but they have no head. And I look at that
and I'm like, holy crap, you know, but you know,
it's it's we're What I'm saying is that us as humans,

(57:09):
we there's something about us that we respond to certain cues,
and they work on us. They work on us. But
let's see. I just think though that for anybody that's
been alive for x amount of time, like I've been,
like I tell everybody, you know what, once upon a
time we had two phones in our house, the kitchen
and the bedroom, and there was no such thing as

(57:30):
an answering machine. And if somebody called, nobody answered. They
call the next day, you know. And then you know,
I was around and I saw the you know, like,
how's this That technology is speeding up so fast that
I think that, as a matter of fact, coming back
to spirituality, that the more technology we get, the more
hard science. And by the way, I'm not I'm not

(57:51):
anti science. On the contrary, the more we look for
the spiritual in our lives, okay, because we're like man
I'm so tired of the hard facts and the science
and this that I'm ready to to the mystery of life,
which is that you can't explain it all, you know,
which is when spirit steps in mm hmm and gives

(58:14):
you information that there's no way, no robot's going to
give it to you. How's that?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Mm hmmmm?

Speaker 1 (58:20):
So what do you guys? What do you have a
next show coming up? Or what what do you got
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Speaker 3 (58:29):
Not yet.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
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Speaker 1 (58:58):
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Speaker 3 (59:02):
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Speaker 1 (59:05):
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Are you ever gonna tour or you're just gonna stay
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(59:28):
I don't know, not yet, yeah, because you know some
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and I'm oh, before I forget, have you ever been
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Speaker 2 (59:45):
Not?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
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(01:00:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
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Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Wow, they were great, Aldo. Let me get some of
these other things removed from studio. That's okay, I had
something there. So what do you think, guys? I think
they're great or fantastic, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
You know the you know you're gonna have people that
will think that, uh terror and how's this let me
not discount it. Terror or oracle cards however you want
to look at them, but something along those lines. In
some cases, especially when you're doing it for yourself, it's

(01:02:47):
basically not all the time. And I know this fe
other gonna say no, I mean a spirit stop. Sometimes
it is your subconscious mind, all right. Sometimes the answers
you get is your sub conscious basically telling you something
you already know and don't want to admit. You don't
want to recognize something. Maybe that's difficult to face, and

(01:03:11):
in other words, you this is a way for it
to come out right, almost like how's this I'm going
to use the relationship one. Let's say you're doing it

(01:03:32):
for yourself and you are involved with somebody and you're
really crazy about this person, but you asked in the cards,
or it comes up somehow that this person might be
cheating on you. Okay, you might not want to see

(01:03:53):
it consciously, but subconsciously you know it or you suspect it.
All right, there's something there that's going on. But maybe
you're so caught up with this person that you're like, no, no, no,
no way, this can't happen. This person is loyal to me.
And then you'll do some people they'll do a reading

(01:04:14):
for themselves and they still don't want to see that.
But sometimes this is the way that subconscious talks to you.
It's you yourself knowing what you know and bringing it
out so that you acknowledge it. Now whether you want
to keep on ignoring it and say no, no, no,
you know, this person is just with me, and now
everybody else wouldn't be the first of the last person,

(01:04:36):
all right, But a lot of times our gut or
our intuition, like way through the whether it's some type
of cards, this is how it comes out, you know,
same thing. You know. Let's say somebody asks again we're
still on the I'm doing this for myself reading Hey, uh,

(01:04:58):
I'm thinking of changing jobs, or I'm gonna try to
get applied to another department and where I work at
or something whatever. Okay, one of two things happens. Sometimes
people talk a lot, but they never execute. And maybe

(01:05:20):
sometimes in the cards I will say go like dude, yes, yes, yes,
do it, do it, and it's almost like this is
what this a person needs, which is basically there. Then
they themselves, if you want to call it the higher
self or your subconscious mind that tells you greenlight.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Go, you know, apply for that position or that move
to that department, or even leave that job that you've
got and try to get this other position. It's almost
and now, for lack of a better word, like where
people don't trust themselves enough, but if they get the
message via the cards, then they believe it. And I know,

(01:06:02):
I know it's difficult, but sometimes people have they have
distrust of their of their own intuition. Sometimes I'll tell
you what especially if they've made mistakes in the past
about certain decisions that like, like, after a while, I
was like, I don't trust myself for this, so let
me see what the cards tell me, right, So sometimes

(01:06:25):
that that that's what they need that push to like, Hey,
what I call execute? You know, you're you're you've thought
about it, you maybe even researched it, and you know
you want to do it, but you're still on that
fence because well, what if it's a mistake, which at
the end of the day, there is there is You're

(01:06:45):
never going to get any situation that is one hundred
percent guarantee, you know, unless your company or something like that.
Let's say, and we're talking here like a job scenario.
I remember I used to work with a lady at

(01:07:06):
what time. She used to work for a major She
was a manager in a major credit card company that
starts with an a very reputable credit card company. And
she got a she was she got an award, I guess,

(01:07:30):
like they do like a yearly like award for best
managers or best units or something like that. She got
an award. Not only I guess her work have been
great for her department. She told me that They fired
her the following week, not fired her because of anything,
but they just said, we're disbanding your unit. You're this

(01:07:53):
department or whatever. I can't remember what it was, exactly
a week after she got an award. Okay, My point
being that sometimes you're never going to have one hundred
percent guarantee that something's gonna be successful, and sometimes that's
what people want, Like when they're gonna make a decision,

(01:08:13):
it's like, oh, I want to be one hundred percent
sure that this is not gonna go wrong. You never
know which way, so that sometimes they'll bring in the
cards and that's how the subconscious works, and basically it
tries to like, you know, soothe them, like, hey, it's
gonna be okay, do it, do it, do it right.
And at the end of the day, you know, and

(01:08:34):
I know the flip side of these people that are
super impulsive and they never really think about what they're
doing or what the repercussions are once you get there,
what a you're gonna do? Or hey, do you realize
that that new job you're gonna have to commute twice
as much have you made? You know, there's people like
that also. Don't get me wrong. The flip side of
that is, let's let's let's do the uh the thing,
the job gain, or that I'm going to go to

(01:08:55):
a new company and you're all excited man, and you're like, man,
you know, maybe this company is coming headhunted and told you, hey,
we're really interested in you. Why don't you come over
we're hiring new people, come over and work for us,
And you're like wow. And of course, most people, especially

(01:09:16):
if you if you're comfortable where you're at and everything's okay.
In other words, you're you're thinking of jumping because your
ego has been flattered. How's that your ego has been
flattered and you see, yeah, there's opportunity there. Plus you know,
of course, especially if they're head hunting, they're going to
make themselves look like it was this wonderful thing. And
sometimes let's say you do a reading for yourself and

(01:09:41):
maybe it's telling you stop or no. My point being
that sometimes it's your subconscious telling you. You know, you're
all excited because you're living the moment that maybe you
were approached that they want you to go and work
for their company, or you're thinking, but have you do
you really know? Is that such a good move for you.

(01:10:01):
Maybe the commute is longer. Maybe there's something you need
to find out about that department. Do they have a
high churn rate?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Do they lose employees frequently? Why? What's going on? You know?
In other words, a subconscious mind is not only to
tell you do it, do it, do it, go, go go.
Sometimes it comes in and steps in and it says stop,
think all right. And again this is your subconscious mind
recognizing something that your ego is getting in the way

(01:10:31):
of you acknowledging because your ego's like, oh, they came
in there asking me because I'm just so great to
go and work for them, right, and you're just like,
I'm not gonna you know, you're I'm not gonna see
all these other negatives that are floating out here that
normally I'd be like, wait a minute, or yeah, maybe
they're gonna give me more money, but wait, are you

(01:10:51):
really Maybe by the time that you do your this,
this and that you're gonna end up making less money
and traveling further or something, or hey, over there, you
know what you gotta they you got to pay for
your parking a lot of money because that place is
in the middle of the downtown of the city, and
you got to pay like a monthly stipend to park
your carver a month. So when all was said and done,

(01:11:12):
you're gonna make the same amount of money, drive more,
or actually make less money. But you know, when we're
all like all happy and flattered, we don't think about
those things. Now that's the that's the the when we
do it for ourselves all right. Now, Sometimes you have drawing,

(01:11:33):
you know, you do readings for like what they what
they're doing, which is like an events or overall what's
coming up. That that's the part where you know when
you tap into things that this is the And this

(01:11:53):
is why I was saying that there is no way,
no way that you would know that what was that?
And you have to really careful because you'd be surprised
how much information we pick up through a subconscious mind.
If you don't know it, know it, like know it
because I know I know that about that person or

(01:12:13):
about this person, or about that celebrity or about this situation.
Unless that's something you go, man, I know, I know
for a fact there is no way that and how's
this that you did you see something like what they're
describing and you put it out there and then it

(01:12:34):
comes to past maybe a couple of months later or
whatever that you and how's this you know? You can't well, no,
I think that back people can deceive themselves. But let's
go on the the pretense that you're not you know yourself,
and I like everywhere you go there you are you
know you know what? As you start, I know that

(01:12:54):
what I saw, whether it was a reading or whatever,
there was no way I could have known that. There's
just no way I could have known that. There's just
no way I could have known that. That's the part
where you can say this was not story of my
subconscious mind. I know from that how's this something? How's

(01:13:17):
this something?

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Like, now, what's happening with this thing with earthquakes and
the volcano? Okay, there's no way you could read about
a volcano erupting on this peninsula off the coast of
Russia because that it just happens a real time. So
in other words, it can't be in your subconscious mind
you didn't read about it because it's in the future.

(01:13:42):
But let's say if now you say, in a reading, oh,
you know what, I see some type of either a
tremor or an earthquake, something along those lines, and it's
I feel it's like by Russia, somewhere in Russia, three
months later this happens. Hello, that right there is you
tuning into something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
That is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
That there's no way you could have come across it.
Now there's people that you know, there's a cashick records.
Some people think that there's like what they call a
collective unconscious in other words. And then there's of course,
like how how do we interpret time, which is like,

(01:14:29):
is everything happening at the same time, past, present, and future,
and somehow or other you're able to tap into future events,
especially if it's like a major thing, because think about it.
I mean, if of all the things that's happening, let's
say right now in present time, people living lives, their lives,
you know, things of that nature, then that's when the

(01:14:55):
question comes, like where did you get that information from?
Going back to what we were talking about about AI
or robotics, it's like, yes, you know robotics is this
is of course you're feeding all this information which you
can extrapolate and basically you know, because let's face it,
we do know a lot of stuff, but a lot

(01:15:15):
of stuff like we're not computers, you know, as far
as like hey, I need to know what this isn't
you know thing? Come on? Sometimes I'll walk into the
next round and go come here for there's some multitasking.
But basically that's the ability of robotics, which is it'store
all that information and to be able to recall it
and even the nuanced stuff, even the littlest most unknown

(01:15:39):
maybe fact about whatever that was or story. All right,
but AI cannot predict future stuff. How's this? I imagine
it could. How's this something like let's say, stuff that
happens in the market. I know there's people that are

(01:16:03):
futurists or they look at trends and they'll say, okay,
it's a bear market or a bull market, or we
see this going up or this going down, and you know,
as a matter of fact, Wall Street, that's that's all
it is, is people buying and selling stocks or investments
based on what they think is going to happen with
whatever with the economy or that certain product or whatever

(01:16:25):
or service. But outside of that, something as ephemeral as
they say, somebody that let's say, a well known figure
that gets that dies or something happens to them, like,
who's going to know that? See what I'm saying, same thing,
who's that I can't you know, unless this person happens

(01:16:49):
to be deathly ill. And ay, I can can extrapolate
and say, you know this, this celebrity has been in
very poor health, and it says I have access to
all the information that comes out. I know that even
doctors now are saying, hey, this, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking people that unexpectedly, maybe in some accident, something
that was like there's no way somebody could have predicted it.

(01:17:10):
Ai is can I deliver on that? They cannot? My
point being that I think that this is where we
go into the realm of spirituality, of spirit of mysticism,

(01:17:32):
that this is this is the the no man's land
for technology. I don't care what they say, it's a no.
You know, there's people that are always going to say,
you know how they used to have those at the carnivals,
those like uh they were like like machines with like
the gypsy fortune teller and you would put in and

(01:17:52):
it would give you like a deliver like some type
of message, like a divination.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I was like that it's okay, it's nice, you know.
Or people that read their horoscopes. Eh, by the end
of the day, when we're talking here, like a reading
robotics can't do that. It can fork forecast certain things
based on present information, okay, but as far as the

(01:18:26):
unexpected or something that it can't it just can't. Right,
That's where and I think that that's our ability as
humans that we can have a foot in both worlds.
We can work with robotics and science and technology, and
then there's a part of us as spiritual beings that

(01:18:49):
can have a foot in the spirit world. What I
mean the spirit world is the non mechanical world, the
world where you have intuition, the world where you might
be able to to see something that happened before, when
or aft or in the future, a spirit communication, all
of that. Okay, that that even now, which is why

(01:19:15):
a lot of people don't want to believe it that
you cannot reproduce it in the lab and say this
is how it was done, and you know so is
of course when you when you start applying how's this
rules for like scientific endeavors, you know, they want to know, Okay,
how did you do it? What's the model you used,
and can we reproduce it using your model. Let's face it,

(01:19:38):
spirituality doesn't work like that, or or readings or clavoyants
or whatever. And you know what, and there's people that
become claboyant under an extreme moment and then it's gone.
It never comes back to them again. Maybe they have
a cluoyant vision because something happens to one of their
family members, somebody they love, and that's this one moment

(01:20:01):
where they'd see this and that's it, and they never
had it before and or after. As a matter of fact,
if you want to. Last week I interviewed this gentleman
called Lynn Buchanan who's been a remote viewer for many,
many years, going back into the seventies, and we were
talking about it. You know what the abilities of the

(01:20:22):
brain are, truly what our abilities are, right as far
as not just beyond intelligence, you know how they always say, oh,
we only use five percent or ten percent of our brain.
And as far as intelligence, basically the ability of the
brain to do things of that nature like remote view

(01:20:42):
or clairvoyants or whatever it might be. And let's face it,
there is no robot or no AI or no computer
that is clrooyant. It's not. So now let's see what
comes along with that. That's why I was saying, you know,
we are picking up speed on this, and I think

(01:21:08):
that's this is what I was trying to mention when
when when I was talking to to Erica and Jasmine,
you know, to you know, to all three of them,
as far as you know what part of us wants
to like, I get all excited, you know, like when

(01:21:29):
you start thinking about, hey, the advantages of having robots
and AAI and and everything. But then you think about it,
and I think part of us is like, man, what
if it takes the Like I think part of us

(01:21:55):
knows that there's something in our world, in our existence
that is not mechanical. It's not it's not. And I
guess my point being that I think a lot of
people sometimes think that AI and robotics are going to
solve all our problems of life. And I think, yeah,

(01:22:16):
it would be great if you got a handy dandy
robot that does your housework and mows your lawn and
does all the disagreeable things that people don't like to do.
All right, but it's not going to solve our problems
of living life as a human being. You know, it's
just like some people that say, hey, when I have
that nice car, I'm gonna be happy, and then you
find out I got that car and I'm not happy,

(01:22:37):
or I'm not as happy as I thought I was
gonna be. Same thing. I think sometimes people are hanging
their hat too much on the AI robotics thing as
the thing that's going to end all human misery. Is
like nop. And by this, I mean, okay, well you know,
how's this? I believe, my opinion, the true human contentment

(01:23:02):
or happiness doesn't come from having all your dreams come true.
How's this? I don't know. I don't know if I'm
saying it the right way. You know that we do
still need a purpose. We do still need to strive
for things to better ourselves so that if you say, well,
you know what, I've got the robot that does all

(01:23:23):
the drudge works, so that frees me up to do
other things right or garden or whatever. You know. In
other words, this thing that we're gonna be here in
this chair and nothing is gonna I don't think that's
gonna make any human being happy. Nope. So a lot
of people that are waiting for that to be the
end all, be all of human existence, and then I
won't have tom. I think we are built to strive

(01:23:47):
by this. I mean that there's in us something that
and everybody's different, you know, everybody has different.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
How do this?

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Everybody has certain things that they want to attain in life,
all right, depending on our emotional, psychic, you know, psychic
psychological makeup. But this is not going to be the
antidote to human misery because there's a lot of rich
people running around that are really unhappy, really unhappy. Okay

(01:24:21):
that you would think. You know, you even see what celebrities.
They've got everything. They've got money, they're famed, they're popular,
they're married to somebody that wow, beautiful, or they're they're
they they're they go out with all these exciting people
they're seeing all over the place. They don't have to
worry about their work is singing or something. And I
was like, ah, that sounds great. They don't have to

(01:24:42):
worry not the roof, I've got several roofs, or food
or you know, hey, how am I going to pay
my election? None of the stuff that us normalis worry about.
You think, man, I'd be so happy, you see, some
of them are so unhappy. Some of them I end
up taking their own lives. They a lot of people
sometimes are surprised, they're shocked when they hear about this

(01:25:05):
that you're like, why would you do that? You've got
all these wonderful things, or their lives, They've got all
these wonderful things, and they do a self destruct but
the slow version, you know, instead of doing it like
maybe with an overdose or something else. No, they do
it by really doing stupid stuff that you're like, and
then basically it's they they either you know, it catches

(01:25:29):
up with them or they end up really unhappy. You know,
you see this person that they find them they're living
under the bridge or in other words, like this path
of self destruction that you're like, man, you had everything,
why would you do that? My point being that the material,
whether it's the robotics or the AI or all the

(01:25:49):
things that it promises that it's going to do for us,
it's great. But if people are gonna hang their hat
as in, yeah, once the robot are here and everything
will be so happy, Yeah, yep, I doubt it. As
a matter of fact, I remember like about a year
ago they had this. It was like a robotas robotic

(01:26:16):
kind of like it was a robot, but they kind
of try to make it look robotic but at the
same time human that they were gonna put as a
oh my god, as a god in Japan of all places.
It was like a robotic god. Robotic. Oh, I can't

(01:26:39):
remember the name of it that when I read it. Okay, well,
one of these, Okay, there's one for example, like ancient
Japanese shrine abuse a Buddhist robot. That's a oxymoron. Okay,
there's another one here playing god. Japan temple puts faith

(01:27:03):
in robot priests. That's the one that I was looking for.
This is a four hundred year old temple in Japan
as attempting to hot wire interest in Buddhism with a
robotic priest it believes will change the face of the religion.
Despite critics comparing the android to Frankenstein's Monster, Okay, let
me see if I can get this thing on it,
because when you look at that, you're like, holy crap. Yeah,

(01:27:26):
it's like, you know, let me see share screen. Let's
see if I can here we go. All right, there
we go. I don't know about you, but that doesn't
inspire me at all. You know, as far as a

(01:27:47):
priest and Buddhism look at that, I was like, I'd
be like that, there's nothing spiritual about this or transcendent
about that. And that's why I'm saying that sometimes they're
they're trying to you know, how's this that they're trying to,
you know, do that mix of water and oil and

(01:28:10):
it ain't gonna mix spirituality and robotics and artificial intelligence. Well, anyway, guys,
I hope you like this interview with Trinity Oracles. They
were fantastic. I urge you to check them out, Jasmin,
you know, like you know, as you know, they each
have their forte Candace Erica, she's the cheat. They all

(01:28:33):
have oracle cards, but Erica does a sketching. So you
guys need to go. Like I said, I'll put a
link and I'll put also that they get that ten
percent discount using the word Trinity. Okay, Trinity on the
when you check out. And also you can learn to
do your own cards. Okay. Sometimes when you need clarity,

(01:28:55):
not that you want to read for anybody, but you're like,
I wonder, what's the right, move on this. Sometimes you
need to ask yourself that via the cards and maybe
something will pop in. You'll go, hmm, that's it. So anyway, guys,
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(01:29:16):
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