September 18, 2025 • 10 mins
Cristina Gomez details shocking new statements from Eric Burlison regarding an initiative to haul top Government Agencies officials, and top corporate executives, both having gatekeeper powers over UFO secrets, in front of Congress through subpoena actions, and whistleblower Jeff Nuccetelli gives deep insights into the 'behind-the-scenes' of the latest UFO hearing, and other news updates.
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00:00 - Congressional Strategy Revealed
02:24 - Next Phase: Military Contractors
03:02 - Witness Preparation Reality
05:47 - Retaliation Against Veterans
06:11 - AARO Exclusion Pattern
08:20 - New Disclosure Movement Strategy
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00:00 - Congressional Strategy Revealed
02:24 - Next Phase: Military Contractors
03:02 - Witness Preparation Reality
05:47 - Retaliation Against Veterans
06:11 - AARO Exclusion Pattern
08:20 - New Disclosure Movement Strategy
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
While most people focus on the dramatic September ninth UFO
Hearing testimony, something else was happening behind the scenes that
might be even more significant. Congressman Eric Burlison revealed to
Ask a poll that Congress is taking a new strategic approach,
one that could force answers from agencies and contractors who
(00:20):
have been stonewalling for decades. Today we will be breaking
down what these investigations really mean and what Jeffrey News
to tell is explosive testimony reveals about the broader cover up.
As always, I'm here to report the information without bias,
and you can decide what to believe. You can find
all the sources in my detailed articles at ufonews dot
com along with the description box below. Hey you follow yours.
(00:43):
I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to this episode of UFO
News Updates.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
You're telling me the interrogatories, Yeah, what's up with that?
Are they coming?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They the letters were dropped. There's a whole.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Story there, and a whole bunch of different agencies.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We sent it to like four different with two agencies
and two private companies.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Interesting, and so.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They ended up the committee staff ended up dropping a
lot of the specific requests that we had put in
there that David Rush specifically wrote, they dropped a lot
of it and just made a generical.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Request and that was oversight staff.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But you know their their view was that it positions
them for if this positions them better legally for getting
the information and if they have to subpoenat interesting by
making it more generic in the first fIF time.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Did you put a dateline like when you want to
response by I think so, but I don't remember inspecting
it in the coming weeks, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That was Eric Berlinson talking to Matt Laslow from ask
A Poll and what he said is a huge deal.
While we don't know which agencies and companies were addressed,
we can take a few guesses and this creates a
strategic lead foundation for issuing subpoenas when agencies refuse to
provide the requested information. Burlissen has been working directly with
(02:08):
UFO whistleblower David Grush, who now serves as a special advisor,
and this is not just symbolic. Grush is actively crafting
specific interrogation methods designed to compel disclosure from both government
agencies and private contractors.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Where do you guys go next to military contractors?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So I think that we have a list of names
that I'm going to try to like reach out to
first and then and then if they if they become
like resistant, then then they will they might go on
the subpoena list.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Is that for SKIFF briefing or is this another public one?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Probably for SKIF briefings. Yeah, because I think the list
of people these are people that have a comfortable right,
so like they're not going to feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But while Congress develops these legal strategies, the witnesses themselves
have to navigate an entirely different challenge, preparing to face
the most powerful legislative body in the country without official support.
Jeffrey neuws Toatelli, who testified about the Vandenburg UAP incident,
recently revealed on his podcast the intensive coordination required just
(03:26):
to get these military witnesses ready for congressional testimony. But
while Congress develops these legal strategies, the reality for military
witnesses is starkly different. Jeffrey news Toatelli, the Air Force
veteran who documented the massive UAP incident at Vandenberg, revealed
the personal cost of becoming a congressional witness. Congress provides
(03:49):
no financial support, no legal protection, and no guidance for
those risking their careers to testify.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
But I hadn't met any of the other witnesses prior
to that, except for like George of course, and then
we really met two days before the hearing, and Jeremy
got us all together and we spent like basically two
days together almost NonStop. And that's the thing, like people
(04:18):
need to understand. You don't get congressional support for this.
You're you're you're asked. You know, Alex was in California
and they're like, hey, you know, you buy a ticket,
you pay your flight out here, you find a hotel
in d C. You know, rooms are not cheap. And
that's the problem, right, you know, you're asking the government
(04:40):
is asking these military members or veterans to come at
their own expense, you know, to come out there, and
you know people are unemployed.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
As News Italia explains, witnesses must pay their own travel
fees from across the country, find expensive hotel accommodations in Washington,
d C, and take unpaid leave from their jobs, all
while facing potential career retaliation for their testimony.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And if people knew how deep and dark the retaliation
actually goes, the American public would be furious. They would
be furious, and they would be shocked, and they would
be outraged. And that's where we need to get to.
You know, we need to make it safe for people
like Dylan to come out and tell the truth, the
(05:27):
full story, and shake the American public awake, because they
if they found out what was happening to their veterans
intentionally by our own government or whoever these bad actors are,
they would be outraged and they need to hear that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Nusitelli's experience with Aero the Pentagon's official UFO investigation office,
reveals another layer of institutional obstruction. Despite submitting his Bendenburg
incident documentation with multiple witness statements and official Air Force reports,
his cases never appeared in Arrow's historical review, and this
pattern of exclusion drives witnesses to see congressional protection through
(06:09):
public testimony.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And from what I understand, it was quite a deep
pool of people to select from. You know, we heard
the rumors that came out about there's no one that
wants to testify. I can tell you that's absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
False.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
There are plenty of people that would love to testify
and that I would love to see testify, and the
other guys that testified, you know, with me would love
to see understand. Matthew Brown, of course, is number one.
We would have loved to have Matthew with us on
a stand and there's many more behind him. Just the
(06:49):
issue is are they safe? Because the hearing is all great,
but when it's over, it's over, and then you go
back to real life. And if you're not protected, you're
not financial secure, and you're worried about you know, your
reputation and your employment. You know, you're on your own
after that. There's no support from the government, you know.
(07:11):
So we've got a lot of work to do before
those people can even think about coming out and testifying,
even if they're allowed to.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
The retaliation expands far beyond career impacts. Nusatell describes a
coordinated campaign of harassment, employment, sabotage, and psychological pressure designed
to silence military witnesses, and this creates a chilling effect
where potential witnesses see what happens to those who speak
out and choose to remain silent, and this self organization
(07:42):
represents a direct response to institutional failure. While official channels
systematically exclude evidence and financially burden witnesses, the solution becomes
creating independent support networks that can bypass government gatekeeping entirely.
The broader implications is that every witness who testified in September,
(08:04):
there are potentially dozens more who remain silent due to
these barriers, and this creates a situation where the most
compelling evidence may never reach Congress because the system itself
prevents witnesses from coming forward. The September hearing was just
the beginning of a broader strategy to force transparency through
(08:24):
legal pressure rather than voluntary coordination. With David Grush now
working directly with Congress and witnesses organizing independently, the traditional
pattern of stonewalling may finally be breaking down. If you
enjoy UFO news updates, case studies, and interviews, and you
will like this channel, hit that like button, subscribe and
(08:44):
share this episode with those you want to keep in
the know with the latest UFO news. The coordination between
investigative journalists, military witnesses, and congressional representatives represents something new
in the UFO disclosure movement approach to overcoming institutional resistance
through multiple pressure points. Do you think this new strategic
(09:07):
approach of using these types of investigations and subpoenas will
be more effective than previous hearing base methods. Let me
know your comments right down below. I'm Christiana Gomez and
that is it for today. I will see you again
tomorrow at ten am PSD for another UFO news update.
Be safe and remember keep your eyes on the skies.
(09:53):
If you enjoy today's show, hit that like button and
if you're not subscribed, what are you waiting for? Hit
notification about well? As I do. Daily UFO news and updates,
thrashulating stories, government disclosures and breaking developments land here every
single day
While most people focus on the dramatic September ninth UFO
Hearing testimony, something else was happening behind the scenes that
might be even more significant. Congressman Eric Burlison revealed to
Ask a poll that Congress is taking a new strategic approach,
one that could force answers from agencies and contractors who
(00:20):
have been stonewalling for decades. Today we will be breaking
down what these investigations really mean and what Jeffrey News
to tell is explosive testimony reveals about the broader cover up.
As always, I'm here to report the information without bias,
and you can decide what to believe. You can find
all the sources in my detailed articles at ufonews dot
com along with the description box below. Hey you follow yours.
(00:43):
I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to this episode of UFO
News Updates.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
You're telling me the interrogatories, Yeah, what's up with that?
Are they coming?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They the letters were dropped. There's a whole.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Story there, and a whole bunch of different agencies.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We sent it to like four different with two agencies
and two private companies.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Interesting, and so.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They ended up the committee staff ended up dropping a
lot of the specific requests that we had put in
there that David Rush specifically wrote, they dropped a lot
of it and just made a generical.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Request and that was oversight staff.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But you know their their view was that it positions
them for if this positions them better legally for getting
the information and if they have to subpoenat interesting by
making it more generic in the first fIF time.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Did you put a dateline like when you want to
response by I think so, but I don't remember inspecting
it in the coming weeks, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That was Eric Berlinson talking to Matt Laslow from ask
A Poll and what he said is a huge deal.
While we don't know which agencies and companies were addressed,
we can take a few guesses and this creates a
strategic lead foundation for issuing subpoenas when agencies refuse to
provide the requested information. Burlissen has been working directly with
(02:08):
UFO whistleblower David Grush, who now serves as a special advisor,
and this is not just symbolic. Grush is actively crafting
specific interrogation methods designed to compel disclosure from both government
agencies and private contractors.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Where do you guys go next to military contractors?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So I think that we have a list of names
that I'm going to try to like reach out to
first and then and then if they if they become
like resistant, then then they will they might go on
the subpoena list.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Is that for SKIFF briefing or is this another public one?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Probably for SKIF briefings. Yeah, because I think the list
of people these are people that have a comfortable right,
so like they're not going to feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But while Congress develops these legal strategies, the witnesses themselves
have to navigate an entirely different challenge, preparing to face
the most powerful legislative body in the country without official support.
Jeffrey neuws Toatelli, who testified about the Vandenburg UAP incident,
recently revealed on his podcast the intensive coordination required just
(03:26):
to get these military witnesses ready for congressional testimony. But
while Congress develops these legal strategies, the reality for military
witnesses is starkly different. Jeffrey news Toatelli, the Air Force
veteran who documented the massive UAP incident at Vandenberg, revealed
the personal cost of becoming a congressional witness. Congress provides
(03:49):
no financial support, no legal protection, and no guidance for
those risking their careers to testify.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
But I hadn't met any of the other witnesses prior
to that, except for like George of course, and then
we really met two days before the hearing, and Jeremy
got us all together and we spent like basically two
days together almost NonStop. And that's the thing, like people
(04:18):
need to understand. You don't get congressional support for this.
You're you're you're asked. You know, Alex was in California
and they're like, hey, you know, you buy a ticket,
you pay your flight out here, you find a hotel
in d C. You know, rooms are not cheap. And
that's the problem, right, you know, you're asking the government
(04:40):
is asking these military members or veterans to come at
their own expense, you know, to come out there, and
you know people are unemployed.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
As News Italia explains, witnesses must pay their own travel
fees from across the country, find expensive hotel accommodations in Washington,
d C, and take unpaid leave from their jobs, all
while facing potential career retaliation for their testimony.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And if people knew how deep and dark the retaliation
actually goes, the American public would be furious. They would
be furious, and they would be shocked, and they would
be outraged. And that's where we need to get to.
You know, we need to make it safe for people
like Dylan to come out and tell the truth, the
(05:27):
full story, and shake the American public awake, because they
if they found out what was happening to their veterans
intentionally by our own government or whoever these bad actors are,
they would be outraged and they need to hear that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Nusitelli's experience with Aero the Pentagon's official UFO investigation office,
reveals another layer of institutional obstruction. Despite submitting his Bendenburg
incident documentation with multiple witness statements and official Air Force reports,
his cases never appeared in Arrow's historical review, and this
pattern of exclusion drives witnesses to see congressional protection through
(06:09):
public testimony.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And from what I understand, it was quite a deep
pool of people to select from. You know, we heard
the rumors that came out about there's no one that
wants to testify. I can tell you that's absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
False.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
There are plenty of people that would love to testify
and that I would love to see testify, and the
other guys that testified, you know, with me would love
to see understand. Matthew Brown, of course, is number one.
We would have loved to have Matthew with us on
a stand and there's many more behind him. Just the
(06:49):
issue is are they safe? Because the hearing is all great,
but when it's over, it's over, and then you go
back to real life. And if you're not protected, you're
not financial secure, and you're worried about you know, your
reputation and your employment. You know, you're on your own
after that. There's no support from the government, you know.
(07:11):
So we've got a lot of work to do before
those people can even think about coming out and testifying,
even if they're allowed to.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
The retaliation expands far beyond career impacts. Nusatell describes a
coordinated campaign of harassment, employment, sabotage, and psychological pressure designed
to silence military witnesses, and this creates a chilling effect
where potential witnesses see what happens to those who speak
out and choose to remain silent, and this self organization
(07:42):
represents a direct response to institutional failure. While official channels
systematically exclude evidence and financially burden witnesses, the solution becomes
creating independent support networks that can bypass government gatekeeping entirely.
The broader implications is that every witness who testified in September,
(08:04):
there are potentially dozens more who remain silent due to
these barriers, and this creates a situation where the most
compelling evidence may never reach Congress because the system itself
prevents witnesses from coming forward. The September hearing was just
the beginning of a broader strategy to force transparency through
(08:24):
legal pressure rather than voluntary coordination. With David Grush now
working directly with Congress and witnesses organizing independently, the traditional
pattern of stonewalling may finally be breaking down. If you
enjoy UFO news updates, case studies, and interviews, and you
will like this channel, hit that like button, subscribe and
(08:44):
share this episode with those you want to keep in
the know with the latest UFO news. The coordination between
investigative journalists, military witnesses, and congressional representatives represents something new
in the UFO disclosure movement approach to overcoming institutional resistance
through multiple pressure points. Do you think this new strategic
(09:07):
approach of using these types of investigations and subpoenas will
be more effective than previous hearing base methods. Let me
know your comments right down below. I'm Christiana Gomez and
that is it for today. I will see you again
tomorrow at ten am PSD for another UFO news update.
Be safe and remember keep your eyes on the skies.
(09:53):
If you enjoy today's show, hit that like button and
if you're not subscribed, what are you waiting for? Hit
notification about well? As I do. Daily UFO news and updates,
thrashulating stories, government disclosures and breaking developments land here every
single day
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