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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One if I told you that scientists have just published
a peer reviewed paper suggesting artificial objects were orbiting Earth
before humans even launched Sputnek. Doctor Beatrice va Role, an astronomer,
has just achieved something that many thought was impossible. She
has gotten not one, but two papers published in peer
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reviewed scientific journals about potential non human intelligence artifacts in
Earth's orbit. So today we're breaking down exactly what she found,
how she found it, and why this might be one
of the most significant developments in the search for non
human intelligence ever documented. As always, I'm here to report
the information without bias and you can decide what to believe.
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You can find the sources in my detailed articles at
ufonews dot com, along with in the description box below.
Hey you follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to
this episode of UFO News Updates. Let's start with the
news itself.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, they're actually some good news. So we have two
papers that's where excited. One about the transient UFO and
New Connection by Steven Bruell and myself, and the second
paper where we are searching for NHI artifacts by looking
for things that look like solar reflections and satellites in
price Putnik images, and both these two papers have not
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pasted peer review and they are accepted for they are
accepted for publication. In fact, they are published, so they
got published on Monday.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
This is massive.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Getting any research related to UAPs or potential non human
intelligence published in a peer reviewed journal is incredibly difficult
because the stigma around this topic has historically meant that
most papers get rejected before review even begins. According to
research from the Scientific Coalition of UAP Studies, fewer than
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a dozen peer reviewed papers directly addressing potential non human
technology have been published in mainstream journals in the decade.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Doctor Verol just added.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Two more, and peer review means other scientists checked her work,
challenged her methods, and found it solid enough to publish,
which makes this achievement significant.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Let me do a quick summary. So the study that
you did, you were looking at pre satellite transient sky events.
You basically analyzed nearly three hundred thousand short lived transient
events that were captured on red sensitive photographic plates from
the first Poloma Sky Survey, and these exposures were all
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taken between nineteen forty eight and before humans put satellites
up in the late nineteen fifties, and each of these
exposures lasted about forty five fifty minutes. That hints at
something coordinated, possibly spinning or reflective objects.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Each photo captured the sky for forty five to fifty minutes,
and she was looking for something specific. She was looking
for three or more points of light appearing in a
straight line during the same exposure. Why does this matter, Well,
a single flash could be a defect, but multiple aligned
points appeared together suggests something coordinated, something moving, and something reflective.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Doctor va Ruhl states she does.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Not know of anything natural that fits these kinds of requirements.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We see that roughly thirty five thousand transients are belonging
to this kind of category, but that is just for
the northern hemisphere, which means that we would need to
have around seventy thousand of transients around I mean for
the whole Earth. And from that we can estimate that
maybe tens of thousands, two hundred thousands of objects around
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the Earth must have been there.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But waits, there is more and it gets even more interesting.
So stay with me, because there is something else that
you need to know about these photographic plates. In nineteen
fifty two, doctor Donald Menzel became acting director of the
Harvard Observatory. Menzel was one of the most prominent UFO
debunkers of his era, writing multiple books dismissing UFO sightings
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as natural phenomena. But what many don't know until after
his death was that he had deep ties to US
naval intelligence and held high security clearances. And one of
Menzel's first actions as director was ordering his secretary to
destroy one third of Harvard's photographic plate collection without examination.
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Then in nineteen fifty three, he halted all sky survey
operations at Harvard for fifteen years, a period known as
the Menzel Gap. Here's what makes this really suspicious. Some
of doctor Viol's most significant transient detections.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Occurred on plates from July.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Of nineteen fifty two, the same month as the famous
Washington Day UFO incident, when multiple objects were tracked on
radar over the US's capital. Menzel personally debunked these nineteen
fifty two sightings as temperature inversions, Yet he destroyed historical
astronomical data and stopped new surveys during what researchers now
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recognize as peak UAP activity years. Was Menzel aware of
what these plates might show, or we don't know that
for certain, but the timing raises serious questions about whether
evidence was deliberately removed from the scientific record.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
In your mind, a plausible explanation for what those objects
might be.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So there are different plausible explanations. One is maybe that
there's something we don't know about the human civilization, and
maybe maybe we had a few rounds already, and.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
So maybe there's a prior human civilization that was wiped out,
as people like Graham Hancock talk about, you know, the
younger drivers years ago. Maybe there was a prior human
civilization and a lot of these megaalithic monuments we see
on the planet are infect remnants of a previous, possibly
human civilization.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Maybe it's non human probes that are that we're sent here.
Like Patrick Jackson, he has this beautiful suggestion of a
surveillance network, and I think that kind of it looks
very logical if you have another civilization that is capable
of constructing these probes, so why wouldn't they send here
lots of them?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Doctor Veerraul mentions the work of Patrick Jackson. He proposes
that metallics figures observed around Earth could be part of
a surveillance network, and his hypothesis suggests monitoring or defense
systems placed by a non human intelligence nature.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Can always surprise us with something we could never have imagined.
So I cannot exclude that there might be some other
explanation that is just outside my imagination. But from what
I see, I cannot. I can't find any other consistent
explanation than that we're looking at something artificial before a
spoilt nink one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
There's another layer to this story, involving doctor former Canadian
Member of Parliament Larry Maguire, who has been investigating whether
Canadian scientists collaborated with American scientists on retrieved UAP material.
In March of twenty twenty three, Maguire wrote to Canada's
Defense Minister, claiming that the Defense Research and Development Organization
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participated in analyzing UAP since around the nineteen fifties through
the Five Eyes Foreign Material Program or FMP, which is
an intelligence agency between the United States, United Kingdom, Canada,
Australia and New Zealand. The Defense Minister denied it, but
Maguire says officials did not properly investigate his claims when
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asked about government cover ups. He stated that too many
credible people have spoken out about classified UAP information, meaning
either all of them are lying or something real as
being capped secret.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
The National Security Agency of the United States, the National
Geospatial Intelligence Agency, they have satellites in Earth orbit which
could be used to look at objects in geostationary orbit.
The heat should be put on NASA and the various
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US government intelligence and defense agencies that have the capacity
to investigate this area of space. They have cameras that
could quite easily look at geostationary Earth orbit and resolve
this mystery for us very quickly.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
We have the technology right now.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
NASA, the Space Force, and intelligence agencies have satellites that
can observe geostationary orbit, so this is not something impossible.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Doctor Vera.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Rohl even suggests sending a mession to collect samples, which
is technically possible with current spacecraft technology. Research methodology is
completely open source and anyone with the skills can download
the data and check her work. So here is where
we stand. Peer reviewed evidence of anomalous objects in Earth's
orbit before humans had satellites. Government officials in multiple countries
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asking questions about historical UAP programs and researchers pushing for transparency.
What do you think is more likely natural phenomena we
haven't discovered yet, remnants of a prior civilization, or evidence
of non human intelligence. Drop your thoughts in the comments.
I'm Christina Goutmez and that is it for today. I
will see you again tomorrow at ten AMPST for another
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