August 21, 2025 • 48 mins
Livestream episode where we will delve into unheard of UFO cases involving military UFO intercepts, a UFO crash where bodies were recovered, a truck driver who was paralyzed by a UFO, and many other fascinating cases from the country of Argentina in this live episode of Mysteries with a History.
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00:00 - Why Argentina?
05:11 - Dionisio Llanca Abduction Case
22:00 - Argentina's UFO Investigation Protocol
24:45 - Military UFO Encounters & Reports
41:00 - The 1963 Trancas Family Encounter
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00:00 - Why Argentina?
05:11 - Dionisio Llanca Abduction Case
22:00 - Argentina's UFO Investigation Protocol
24:45 - Military UFO Encounters & Reports
41:00 - The 1963 Trancas Family Encounter
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
The most comprehensive documented UFO wave didn't actually happen in
the US. But today we're going to Argentina. There are
some very insane documented cases by civilians and by the military,
and that's what today's show is all about. Hey, you
follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to this episode
(00:32):
of Mysteries with the History. Let me bring in my
co host Jimmy Church a fight of black Radio, because
we have so much to cover. Jimmy, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you going me? Thursday? Here we go. Wow.
Thursdays are always one of the busiest days for me.
It's wrapping up the week. I have three shows that
I do and everything else that is involved. And my
highlight of my Thursday is being here with you and
and everybody else. So yeah, here we go and Argentina today, Christine,
(01:09):
after after after I won't I won't tell everybody about
our text earlier today. But but after that text text
back and forth thing, I have to ask, why Argentina,
because this I truly don't know, do I.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We haven't plt a show in Argentina.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I will.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We've covered cases in other shows that have like infiltrated,
but we haven't done a full show on the country.
And a great thing about this show that we do together,
Jimmy Mysteries with a History. We've covered so many We've
focused on so many different countries and states, going from
California all the way to India, and we've covered South
(01:54):
America as a whole. But it seems that Argentina needs
its own episode. There's is that things that have happened?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Last and final answer.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's my last and final answer, and I'm stamping it
on a sheet of paper.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, it's we we cover South in Central America so
much because so much is going on down there, and
we've done so many shows now that they all kind
of run together. It's yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure,
And you're right, you're right. I can't argue with that. Argentina.
(02:29):
I think every country down there kind of deserves its
own day. Well, we've done a Brazil Day.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
We've done Brazil, We've done Peru, done Chile, we're doing Argentina.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Now we're doing Argentina. And so I went, well, we'll
get into this later because this first case is is
full blown crazy town. Uh both, Well, we've got too
close encounter cases that that are pretty nuts, but I
(03:02):
compile the list. I got one of the documents from
the Argentine military that they used at a press conference
that they released a bunch of cases that they were investigating,
and I have that list and it's pretty wild. So
we'll get to that. That's our done, done, done moment.
(03:22):
We will get to that, but we're going to start.
I'll hand it off to you the nineteen seventy three
case of Dianesio and Lanka is his name, and it's
pretty nuts. It's pretty nuts. Do you have images?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I do. I have drawings, artist renditions for this one.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This case. We're going to get into this pretty pretty
deeply as quickly as we can, because we have so
many other cases to cover, but this case, I don't
want to get ahead of our skies. But there are
certain details about this case when you get into the
(04:08):
minutia of it, that I find completely fascinating. And the
way that he described the interior of the ship with
multiple screens and that showed stars on them, you know, monitors.
I thought that that was interesting. But they also had
a breakdown, mechanical breakdown and stuff inside of the craft
(04:31):
and the three beings that came up again. We'll circle
back to this. Two were male, one was female, and
it turns out in the case, I don't know if
we're going to touch upon this. I wanted to mention
it in front that she was the engineer, she was
the mechanic, She's the one that put the ship back together.
(04:54):
And it was how he explained it, in the detail
that he did that I just find really compelling. So
let's get into this case. We'll circle back to the
repairs that were done and how that happened. But take
us to October twenty seventh, nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, very close to Halloween. It's definitely more of a
spooky story. And so Dionicio Janka began what should have
been a pretty normal drive to Bahia Blanca all the
way to Rio Gegos, and he was just he's a
truck driver. He was just minding his own business, doing
the drug, just doing the routine stuff. But Yanka was
(05:38):
an experienced twenty five year old truck driver, and after
dinner with his uncle, his name was Enrique Ruis, he
departed at about twelve thirty am in his Dodge six
hundred truck loaded with construction materials and after an hour
into his journey, he experienced this is really strange. He
(05:59):
experience a flat tire due to the heavy loads pressure,
at least that's the explanation for it. And then at
one point fifteen am, he was alone on this isolated road.
He began changing the tire when the night freaked him
out for the rest of his life. So he mentions,
(06:20):
and he recounts later, he says, I break the car
on the shoulder. I got out, I took out the
jack and tools and began to change the tire, and
the road was completely deserted. All at once, the road
was illuminated with this very intense yellow light that seemed
to me about two thousand meters away, and initially thinking
(06:42):
the light might be headlights from an approaching vehicle, young
guy just continued doing his job, just continued changing the
flat tire, but these lights began to intensify dramatically, changing
from yellow to blueish like an elect arc welder. That's
the way that he described him. And then he continues
(07:04):
of I tried to get up, but I was paralyzed.
I literally couldn't stand up. I had no strength. And
the strange thing was my legs wouldn't respond. I was
on my knees, and I wanted to get up and
look towards the woods that grew along one side of
the road, but he wasn't even able to do that,
and then he mentions that then I saw a great
(07:26):
thing in the form of a plate or in this case,
a saucer, suspended in the air at about seven meters high,
and three people were at my shoulders looking at me
like kind of what we're seeing in the image here
on screen. I tried once more to get up, but
I couldn't. The paralysis became so extreme that I couldn't
(07:50):
even talk. And these three beings observed him for about
five minutes, but in this case for Yanka, it felt
like a lifetime. And he described them as Jimmy had
mentioned two men, one woman woman, distinguished by the woman's
breast formation and the long blonde hair reaching to the
middle of her back. That's how I was able to
(08:10):
decipher between the two genders. And the men also had
blonde hair, but they were a bit shorter, and they
were wearing identical single piece smoky gray overlays with yellow
boots and these long type of gloves, and they carried
no visible weapons or belts or helmets of any kind.
(08:30):
They were pretty simply dressed and right off the cough, Jimmy,
We've covered different types of alien species of people that
I've told stories of what certain aliens look like. These
ones being blonde and pale and not incredibly tall, but
like decently enough. They sound similar to the Nordics, don't they?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, they do. What was interesting? Yes, yes, yes. The
answers are yes, yes, and yes there. What he had
said was they were fashioned forward. The boots, the yellow
boots matched the yellow gloves that went halfway up their arms.
(09:18):
That the grayish uniforms were tight fitting, but they were.
They're observing. He didn't see them come up. Okay. This
is what's interesting about this case. And I remember first
researching this many many years ago, and I've always been
fascinated with it. It seems that when the yellow light
(09:42):
first off, he's on a dark road. The yellow light appears,
he doesn't know if it's another car approaching. He's a
truck driver, he knows what traffic is he but it
was a yellow light that seemed pretty bright and to
illuminate the area, and he was there working on his
tire on the truck, but the yellow light turns to
(10:05):
blue and he doesn't see the craft above him. He
doesn't see these three humanoids, species beings, whatever you want
to call, standing there just looking at him. He's looking
in the other direction. Then he turns around and there
they are, right and they're just staring at him for
(10:28):
five minutes with nothing going on. But he was able
to take it all in, and you're pretty accurate there
in describing what he saw, which was that they all
had blonde hair. The woman was in the middle, the
two men were flanking her. He did say it was
(10:49):
obvious to him that she was a woman, right. He
gave his reasons why, but he said, yeah, that they
had a single piece, tight fitting gray suits on yellow boots,
long gloves reaching to the middle of the arm that
were also yellow. And they didn't appear to have any weapons,
(11:11):
and no belts, which was pretty interesting, no helmets, so
they were breathing oxygen. But this is where for me
after that, it gets pretty strange, doesn't it. They put
a device on his finger. He described it as maybe
(11:32):
you can help me out with this, but he describes
it as looked like a razor blade with a tube
on it, so I'm not sure. The razor blade makes
you think that it was there to cut, but it wasn't.
It was placed on his finger, so there was that.
But they take him on board the craft. They had
(11:53):
issues with the craft, but he was able to look
around and he gave I don't want to say a
typical description of the interior of the craft. I would
say it was completely atypical. It was different than what
we have heard in the past. That the floor was
a dull gray metal and there was equipment everywhere, and
(12:17):
which he mentioned the screens that had stars on them
right now, that I never really heard that type of
description before. The way that he presented it, Christina, I
always found that very very interesting. He described cables on
(12:39):
the floor, Yeah, cables, and it just seems authentic the
way that he described the interior of the craft, that
you know what I mean, It didn't seem like it
was following some other narrative that we have heard in
the past.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, to me, when I was looking at this and
the details that you brought up and the description of
how these looked, it's definitely giving seventies sci fi movies
the like. The outfits, for sure were very fashion forward
during that time frame. Yeah, and then also mentioning cables
as well on the craft. But one thing that really
(13:18):
does make it stand out to where it can't necessarily be,
you know, a big ol' hoax of oh hey, I'm
making a really funny movie and you're the joke. In
this case, Janka had mentioned that when they were communicating
with one another, there were no vocal inflections, but it
sounded like radio badly tuned in with chirps and buzzes.
(13:42):
And on top of that, before he gets on the spacecraft,
according to his testimony, one of the beings grabbed him
from like the his his sweater, his arm, and his
sweater collar. I looked at him firm but without violence,
and he mentioned that he tried to speak, but he
(14:06):
wasn't able to because right before this incident he was paralyzed. Remember,
he wasn't able to move by any means. And then
he gets this this this razor with the small tube
is seen by him and it's this type of painless application,
but it drops two drops of his blood from his
(14:29):
finger into the tube and then that's when he loses consciousness.
And this correlates similar to the colorus Brazil incident with
the Chupa Choopa people believe that their blood was being
taken from them. There was another incident in the twelve
hundreds where a priest had encountered something very similar that
was mentioned by the Diana Pisulka, and her research had
(14:51):
not too long ago. So we are seeing this consistent
theme of the extraction of blood but a very minimal amount.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, and so he wakes up, he's confused, starts walking,
gets some assistance, and eventually makes it to the police station.
Medical assistance is there, he passes out again. He wakes
back up, he doesn't remember anything, right, and then they
(15:23):
induced a hypnosis. Also, there were some drugs that were involved,
and I think it was like sodium pentathol or something
like that. But then the memory started to come back.
So everything that we hear and we know now from
the reports that were done came after the fact. But
(15:45):
immediately after the encounter, he just woke up, you know,
between a couple of cars and didn't know anything and
didn't remember anything. It came back later another for me,
very fascinating part to this story. Many many people interviewed
(16:05):
him about this case.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
They did and something else that we This is one
detail that we don't hear often, is that he was
missing a few belongings. His watch was missing, his cigarette lighter,
his cigarettes were gone, and but but his money was untouched,
still in his wallets, still there in full, but not
his watch, not as lighter, and not a cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
ET doesn't doesn't need money. ET doesn't need money. But
but they but they like a smoke once in a while,
you know, and they like to fire up a heater,
you know. They know what a lighter is. But that
I always thought that that was a pretty interesting part
of this case. The case has stayed there, it hasn't changed,
(16:54):
and it's it's just another encounter, except the way that
he was abducted. There wasn't any violence or anything like that.
But to have the beings without helmet, I find that
very very interesting. No weapons or anything else. But there
was something that was mentioned to him on the craft
(17:14):
before we move on. We've got so much to cover.
They said, hey, is it cool if we hang out
on your planet? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
they said that some of the normal warnings that we
have heard, Look, just take care of this planet. It's
(17:37):
a beautiful place. We like it. We would like to
hang out here, but you guys are destroying it. And
then they revealed to him that they have been in
contact since you ready.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, nineteen fifties, Yeah, yeah, yeah, been in contact since
nineteen fifty Very very strange details in this case for
something that happened in nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It is and I want to talk about this for
a moment. I think it's really important the way that
we have described ET and UFOs have differed through the ages,
not only with our language and how we describe them,
but also our perspectives on these types of entities. Where
(18:22):
now people believe that when fairies were very commonly seen
in the eighteen hundreds, they might have been ET of
some kind. What if, for Yanka, he's seeing these as
like superhero beings from like sci fi movies in the
nineteen seventies. What if these entities were attempting to tap
into his form of perception and consciousness of appealing to
(18:46):
him in a way that would be like, Hey, we're
super cool and advanced, but also human enough to where
you shouldn't fear us. I thought about that when doing
the research for this episode. Just because the detail of
how they looked seemed so out of the ordinary.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
He wasn't afraid. No, he wasn't afraid. And now, if
there's one part of this I just wanted to mention
really quick before we move on. Very similar description to
(19:25):
the Travis Walton case. All right, now, So if you
go back to the Travis Walton and there were different
beings that were on that craft, but he does have
the encounter with the humanoid beings, blue outfits, yellow gloves,
yellow boots, blonde hair, very very similar. Now, would would
(19:54):
Travis and Dionysio know each other or of know of
the each other's cases? Probably not, not in nineteen seventy three,
and what Travis was doing his encounter, you know, was
nineteen seventy seven. So when you look at it in
those terms, would they have known of each other, No,
(20:16):
and had the details of their cases. No. There are
things that are astonishingly similar for me with Travis Walton
and who he encountered and who denote Denisio encountered. Very
fab fascinating aspect of this I always look for. I'm
trying to connect dots. I think we all are. Yeah,
(20:39):
we're all seeing these overlaps. You know, well, when you
get those overlaps from people that have not talked to
each other, you know, like the Lannis Amora case and
the symbol that was on the side of that craft.
A symbol was seen all over the world in different encounters,
(21:00):
and that symbol was never released at that time by
Lannie Zamora. And you know, it's those, you know what
I mean, those are interesting overlaps that you need to
take a look at and just wonder. You don't want
things polluted, you don't want cases contaminated, and that goes
(21:22):
with any type of investigation or anything that anybody is doing.
There's certain things you just don't reveal to the public
because you don't want it to interfere with your work
and your research and your investigation. It's really that simple.
And in this case we have that. I just find
that very very interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It is and we still have so much to cover.
But first X Guy, I, Steve and Brett thank you
guys so much for supporting the channel and those super chats.
And another great way to support this channel is to
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you haven't already. When we're looking at Argentina, they have
their own protocols on investigating UFOs because back in nineteen
(22:03):
sixty two they did encounter a UFO flap. For a
consistent amount of months, really all throughout sixty two and
sixty three, there were a lot of different UFO sightings.
So the Argentinian Navy responded by creating the world's first
official military UFO investigation protocol, distributing two thousand standardized questionneers
(22:27):
to bases nationwide, which is a really interesting detail. And then,
you know, decades later, a senior military commander alleged that
back in May of nineteen sixty two, because again the sixties,
which is a really hot time globally for UFO sightings,
there was a crash near a naval base, and he
(22:47):
claimed alien bodies were recovered and secretly transferred over to
the United States with CIA documents done, done done, apparently
coroberating parts of his account that, Wow, why is the
US always involved? Jimmy, That's that's my first question.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
What's going on? Wait? You know, I would say in
a general sense, most countries don't have the capabilities to
deal with something like this, to transport a craft to
backwards engineer it alien bodies, technology and everything else that
(23:31):
they just don't have the ability to do that, right.
And if the United States gets whiff of something like this,
and they've got their fingers in so many pies around
the world, and certainly and Central, yeah, North Central and
South America. So when this happens, you've got to get
the craft off your lawn. You know, how do you
(23:53):
do that? Well, you call the United States. They come in,
they secure the area, they sanitize the area, they take
everything with them like nothing ever happened, and it's taken
back to the United States where we have the facilities,
the people, all of the logistical stuff that goes into
place for the transportation, autopsies, storing of bodies, medical research,
(24:16):
all of that can happen here in the United States.
But it's not going to be happening in a small
country like Ecuador or Paraguay or you know what I mean.
It's just not going to happen. And I love Peru,
and I love Chile, and I love Argentina, but these
are countries that just are not set up to deal
with stuff like this. Now, if we go back, let's
(24:40):
go back for a second to the Aspora. Naval Air
Base and those encounters at Bahia Blanca nineteen sixty two.
So if we take a look at this, we're talking
about May twenty second, which is what you just brought up.
The military brought up this wave of stuff that happened,
and this was at about eight at nine o'clock in
(25:03):
the evening May twenty second, a squadron of fighters in
the vicinity of Bahia Blanca's commandant Aspora Naval Base reports
the presence of UFOs along its flight path. The interception
lasted thirty five minutes, direct witnesses to the incident where
Lieutenant Rudolpho Caesar Galdos and his student Roberto Wilkinson and
(25:28):
report number oh two seven seven nine causes the first
official acknowledgment by an Argentinian military wing agency or anybody
else within the government. It is a crucial case when
we look at Argentina. Now if we fast forward, and
(25:49):
I talked about this earlier, so let me let me
do this before we get to the other abductor or
the other encounter that we're going to do. The reports
that were released, now listen to the timeline here, all right,
that were released by the Argentinian military to the press
(26:12):
from an official report that they had put together. The
one case that started all of this off, as we
have mentioned, was in nineteen sixty two, I May twenty second,
at Bahia Blanca's Espora Naval Base, and all of the
direct eyewitnesses and everybody else that were involved with this
when completely on the record and official reports were written up,
(26:36):
all right. The next case that happened after that was
over Floresta District September eighth, nineteen sixty two, Lieutenant Juan
Jose Vico cited. And check this out, Christina, this is
a doune undone, a burnished medal. Right, burnished metal lenticular
(26:57):
UFO is a disc shape from the side lenticular cloud
UFO making smooth and controlled maneuvers. Now, that is directly
from the official military report. Shortly after that, at Isaiza
International Airport in Buenos Aires, December twenty second, nineteen sixty two.
(27:21):
This is just a couple of months later, a UFO
was cited about three a m. Now, the tower operators,
the flight controllers were Horatio Alora and Mario Pizzuto, and
they were there doing their job watching air traffic when
a pilot from a commercial airline calls them and breaks
(27:45):
into the air traffic controllers conversations with other flights because
they had one landing and one taking off at that moment.
The captain breaks in and says, what's that thing at
the end of the run way? All right? End quote. Now,
this is a very detailed report, but I'm going to
(28:06):
just get to the main points here. Because of the
UFO's brilliant glow a laura, the flight controller could not
tell whether it had actually touched down or was hovering
just above the runway. Then, as everybody is looking at
it and it was bright, it rose up off of
(28:28):
the runway about thirty feet off of the ground and
hovered there briefly, and then it just took off rapidly,
accelerating to the northeast and disappearing. This is an official
Argentine military report. Right after that, in nineteen sixty five,
between the months of June and July, a succession of
(28:50):
UFO incidents occur in the Antarctic region, some of them
producing electromagnetic disturbances and witnessed by personnel from the Bridge,
Chilean and Argentine bases in the area of Antarctica. The
phenomenon on July third, at Deception Island Naval Station, generates
(29:11):
the second official acknowledgement from the Argentine military. Then, in
nineteen seventy three, on November two, six members of the
back at Esport Naval Air Base by the way close
to Bahia Blanco, witnesses observe the maneuvers of a UFO,
(29:31):
immediately producing the third official report from the Argentine military.
Then in nineteen seventy eight Christina, on the evening of
February fourth, at La Florita Dam in San Louis, six
persons report the presence of the UFO and the descent
of an occupant from within, leaving ground marks. The Police
(29:56):
Precinct of San Luis, through its chief, Lieutenant Colonel Raoul
Benjamin Lopez, issues a document which constitutes the fourth official
acknowledgment from the Argentine military. But I'm not done. Nineteen
seventy eight, towards midnight on July twelfth, a low level
(30:19):
UFO siding causes a commotion in the Estession Rombland region,
located between the limits of San Juan and Mendoza. It
was witnessed by police officers and the town. The San
Juan Police Chief, Colonel Guillermo Vulgal prepares the fifth fifth
(30:42):
official military report from the Argentine military. All right, now,
I've got one more. I've got one more. In nineteen
eighty two, and then in the evening of August thirteenth,
the UFO causes a disturbance in the town of Landre
Catamarca and its flat and its flyover produces strong wins
(31:02):
and starts a conflagration. A police patrolman on duty says
he saw an intruder. The provincial police emits thee and
creates the sixth official document. All right, I'm not done.
I'm not done. To actually have one more. In nineteen
(31:23):
eighty six, this is the last one. The appearance of
a nighttime UFO and the discovery of a gigantic indentation
on El Perio Hill in Cordoba on January ninth prompts
the city's municipal authorities to issue the seventh and final
(31:44):
official acknowledgment from the Argentinian military's role in UFO research.
There you go, Argentina. Yeah, you're right, they deserve a
full show, don't they.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You absolutely slaughtered it. Just ba have one case after another,
bringing the dates bring in the names. The pronunciation was
pretty good good.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, no, it was trailing.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I No, I thought it was great.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
All was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Uh no, absolutely killed that you.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Ran with it. Here's the thing, though, these are official
reports from a government's military, in this case Argentina, right,
and something that that, And this goes back a long ways,
and it just shows you how much we have fallen
short here in the United States. And I know you
(32:35):
and I were talking about this earlier. We've got, uh
on the calendar what appears to be another UFO hearing
in Congress for September ninth, And it just seems to me, Christina,
we're just trying to catch up to what all of
our neighbors have been doing for for decades now on
(32:56):
this subject. All of the countries around US seem to
have all taken this very very serious. They've listened to
the military, they've listened to their citizens, they've done follow
up investigations in a lot of cases, routed the military
to these locations and to cover this and to protect
(33:19):
the citizens, and our military and our government has done
the exact opposite until now. And we're still not there,
are we?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
No, we are not there yet. And it just seems
that South America as a whole has been very far
ahead with this conversation, both on a civilian level and
on a military level. They did create it. For instance,
Udaguay did create their They were the first country to
create their UFO office, a public one in South America
(33:49):
in particular in the late seventies early eighties, and then
other countries followed suit, while the US didn't create their
public one until many, many years later. And we're looking
at Argenta and we're hearing these stories of military officials
addressing this. We actually get their full names, which is
a constant in many cases in South America, in Spain
(34:11):
as well. Compared to the US, we get anonymous, we
get a alias name, or just their first name or
just their last name. But in this case for Argentina
and again other countries in South America, you get the
full whopping name, first middle, last, last, last name, their
mom's last name, their dad's last nameybe, even their grandparents
and so on. So it just goes to show that
(34:33):
the conversation is very different there. It's taken a lot
more seriously, and we in the US we need to
follow suit because we're still behind even though we're talking
about it in a more grand scale.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
In a more open way.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, in a more open way. Yes, we're still not
at the same level like you had mentioned.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, yeah for sure. And you know, today it's video,
it's uh video capture it cell phones and so forth,
and things can get manipulated. But if you go back
and you look at some of the film footage, and
specifically one case comes to mind, and to this day
(35:17):
it just holds up and that's the film footage that
was shot the movie, the film over Catalina Island here
in southern California, and you go back and just what
that's film and just go and look at this. It's
not a bird, that's not a blimp, it's not a plane.
(35:40):
It is what it is. But it's captured on film
and that's totally different. And so when we go back
and we look at these historical cases, I say this
over and over again with you, Christine, I think it's
so important to go back before there were things like
SpaceX launches, you know, two times times a week, you know,
(36:01):
lighting up the sky with something strange, and so there's
that and people not understanding what they're seeing, and then
shooting the videos that go back historically and look at
the record there when only certain things were in the sky,
right before jets, when every planes had propellers. It was
(36:23):
a different time what was being seen in the skies.
I just find it very very interesting, and that's why
these cases like to describe the burnished metal l trick
saucer shaped object on the runway, you know, let's go
(36:46):
back and take a look at this. Well, the military
and Argentina took it very very serious. Do we have
time for one more or are we going to get out?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
No, we can do one more, but before we do that.
That's why it's so important to cover these more historical
is why we do this show Mistress with the history.
It's because it sets a foundation and it's a bit
more difficult to debunk these much older cases when technology
it was very different. CGI wasn't a thing. Photoshop was
still in its very primitive era if anything. Actually we
(37:16):
didn't get that until much later compared to present day
where everything is very very easily debunked. We have to
cover these old cases to get an understanding as to
what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, and who who was just on Joe Rogan was
it Tulsa Gabbard, Uh, Luna, Yeah, Luna was on and
elected officials. Doesn't matter about gender. They all look the
same to me. I don't know other days. But anyway,
when she said, look, you know, I can't.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I've seen images of stuff that I know are not
made on this earth, you know, So what what does
that tell you?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
What is she looking at? Is it new? Is it old?
What's the story behind the images? You have to have that, right,
you have to have the backstory where it was taken,
what time it was taken, when it was taken, and
what is it that she's trying to get to. And
then she said one other point that you and I
are just talking about. She said, I would argue that
(38:25):
these sightings go back historically, all the way back to
the time of Jesus, you know. And she's right. When
you go back deep into you go back before nineteen
oh three, before the Ripe Brothers, and if you go
back before the first hot air balloons in France in
seventeen ninety, all right, you get before that. What's in
(38:49):
the sky, Christina, what's in the sky?
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Birds?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah? Clouds? Birds? Right? Right, that's it, right. I don't
thing bumblebees or butterflies are going to be mistaken for
giant craft. So what else is in the skies besides birds? Right?
And we know what a bird is. So if you
see something in the sky and you write down in
(39:17):
the historical record that you saw a shiny metal shield
right flying through the sky, what is it that they
were seeing? And I think the historical record, when you
get back before technology, is some of the most important
compelling stuff that we can go back and research and
(39:38):
contemplate and consider and develop a theory on. I think
that is very, very important. And Luna made that case
on Brogan and I agree with her. I agree with
her one hundred percent. You can go back into the history.
How many times have you and I on this very
program have talked about historical cases in the sixteen hundreds,
(40:02):
the fifteen hundreds, the fourteen hundreds, in the year one hundred,
in four hundred BC. How many times have we done this?
I remember you and I did a show and you
can help me out on this. But we tracked a
sighting from the coast of France through across southern Europe,
(40:24):
through the Alps and down into Italy on the same day,
right in I think that was the year fifteen hundred
where you have the dates are there locked in and
they are seeing something fly across the sky and I
(40:46):
can tell you that from the description of it, it
wasn't a meteor. The thing landed right. Well, let's take
a look at that. What is it that they were seeing.
I just find this stuff fascinating. Like this next case,
let's get this in and out. We're out of time, everybody,
so we'll do this really fast. This is the nineteen
sixty three Tracis case. Happened on Monday, October thirty fir
(41:10):
Halloween Done, done, Halloween nineteen sixty three. Wow, this is
when I was born. This was on my birthday. This
is interesting. Two sisters, Argentina twenty eight and jo Lee
twenty one, were visiting their parents at their parents ranch
with their children all right now nine pm that night.
(41:33):
Dora Goozman. Dora was a housekeeper for them. She was
fifteen years old. She lived in the back of the house.
But she suddenly starts freaking out, running back in and
out of the house, stating that she could see lights
on the railroad embankment about two hundred yards in front
(41:56):
of the ranch. So it's about six hundred feet away.
Do they do? What do the girls do? They go
to it? Yeah, they do what I wouldn't do in
the dark. They go out to get a better look. Christina, Yeah,
that's nuts. And what do they find? Well, it kind
of goes back to Denisio. They suddenly are enveloped in light, right,
(42:22):
and they're bathed into this light. They're trying. Yeah, they're
trying to see what's going on. They can't make sense
of anything. These are these are young women right now,
I'm gonna do the quick version of this because it's
a pretty complex encounter. But in an instant they noticed,
(42:43):
as as they describe it, a bunch of vehicles in
a row with turrets like tanks, right, turrets on the
top and large rivets on the surface. Very interesting description,
especially coming from young women. They don't necessarily understand what
(43:05):
they're looking at like this, and they were unable to
tell if the objects were suspended over the ground, just
like the Air Force reports that we did earlier, or
resting upon it. But they appeared there was a bunch
of these in a row to have six windows on
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each with light coming out of them. So what do
they do? They did what I do. They ran back
to the house and locked the doors, right, smart move.
You know. They were freaked out, and so they locked
themselves in the house. Mom and Dad wake up, everybody
else wakes up. I think some prayers started to happen,
(43:48):
right and all of this because nobody knew what was
going on, but they could see. This is just six
hundred feet in front of the house. They see a
long line of vehicles floating above the ground. After forty
minutes lapse, the objects started to move forward through above
the ground and then vanish toward the Sierra Medina's mountains
(44:11):
that were about ten miles away. There you go, that's
a great case right there. It is a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
There's a lot more to it. There were other witnesses.
Other farmers actually sold this as well, which adds credibility
to the story. And we've heard similar incidents to this one.
But to hear these young women see this, to run
to it, to mention that they saw not only a craft,
but a green light that almost looks solid like a
laser versus this kind of haze that we usually see
(44:41):
with lights is also very strange that we don't hear
too often, but with the cases in Argentina, lights seem
to play a really big role in these cases. Right
before we end today's show, got to give a shout
out to Tina. Happy birthday. It is just that's so awesome.
Happy birthday. Thank you so much for being here, for
(45:02):
being one of our amazing mods for how many years now,
like a really really long time. So just a big
happy birthday, Thank you, Tina, and thank you Jimmy for
being on the show today. Who do you have on
Fate of Black tonight?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Man, I got a big one. I mean, every show
this week has been ginormous and how do we top that? Well,
we top it tonight because we have Trevor Grossi on
the show and we are covering his team and the
Stars Project and what they are doing underneath Giza. They
(45:39):
broke the story. He broke the story, and we all
know how viral this has gone and the other stuff
that has been revealed. Well tonight, Trevor Grossi and I've
been trying to get Trevor on the show for years
and he's camera shy. He's a good dud, He's a
(45:59):
really good He's like, man, I just can't do it. Man,
just let me make my films. Just let me do
my research, let me do my thing. Well, he's out
there all over Giza filming and doing his stuff over
the years, and I kept asking him to come on
the show, and then what happens, Boom, Sars happens, and
now he doesn't have a choice. He's coming on. Fade
(46:20):
to block, and so we'll see how camera shy he
is tonight. But it's a really really big show, So
we're going to go through all of that. What is SARS?
How does it work? What is it that they are
finding in addition to the stuff that has already been released?
What could it be? All of that tonight with the
(46:41):
one and only Trevor Grossei. I'm fad to block. It's
going to be a huge show. So I'll see everybody tonight. Christina,
always great being here with you. Another great show on
mysteries with the history. Thank you so much, Thank.
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The most comprehensive documented UFO wave didn't actually happen in
the US. But today we're going to Argentina. There are
some very insane documented cases by civilians and by the military,
and that's what today's show is all about. Hey, you
follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to this episode
(00:32):
of Mysteries with the History. Let me bring in my
co host Jimmy Church a fight of black Radio, because
we have so much to cover. Jimmy, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you going me? Thursday? Here we go. Wow.
Thursdays are always one of the busiest days for me.
It's wrapping up the week. I have three shows that
I do and everything else that is involved. And my
highlight of my Thursday is being here with you and
and everybody else. So yeah, here we go and Argentina today, Christine,
(01:09):
after after after I won't I won't tell everybody about
our text earlier today. But but after that text text
back and forth thing, I have to ask, why Argentina,
because this I truly don't know, do I.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We haven't plt a show in Argentina.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I will.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We've covered cases in other shows that have like infiltrated,
but we haven't done a full show on the country.
And a great thing about this show that we do together,
Jimmy Mysteries with a History. We've covered so many We've
focused on so many different countries and states, going from
California all the way to India, and we've covered South
(01:54):
America as a whole. But it seems that Argentina needs
its own episode. There's is that things that have happened?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Last and final answer.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's my last and final answer, and I'm stamping it
on a sheet of paper.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, it's we we cover South in Central America so
much because so much is going on down there, and
we've done so many shows now that they all kind
of run together. It's yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure,
And you're right, you're right. I can't argue with that. Argentina.
(02:29):
I think every country down there kind of deserves its
own day. Well, we've done a Brazil Day.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
We've done Brazil, We've done Peru, done Chile, we're doing Argentina.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Now we're doing Argentina. And so I went, well, we'll
get into this later because this first case is is
full blown crazy town. Uh both, Well, we've got too
close encounter cases that that are pretty nuts, but I
(03:02):
compile the list. I got one of the documents from
the Argentine military that they used at a press conference
that they released a bunch of cases that they were investigating,
and I have that list and it's pretty wild. So
we'll get to that. That's our done, done, done moment.
(03:22):
We will get to that, but we're going to start.
I'll hand it off to you the nineteen seventy three
case of Dianesio and Lanka is his name, and it's
pretty nuts. It's pretty nuts. Do you have images?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I do. I have drawings, artist renditions for this one.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This case. We're going to get into this pretty pretty
deeply as quickly as we can, because we have so
many other cases to cover, but this case, I don't
want to get ahead of our skies. But there are
certain details about this case when you get into the
(04:08):
minutia of it, that I find completely fascinating. And the
way that he described the interior of the ship with
multiple screens and that showed stars on them, you know, monitors.
I thought that that was interesting. But they also had
a breakdown, mechanical breakdown and stuff inside of the craft
(04:31):
and the three beings that came up again. We'll circle
back to this. Two were male, one was female, and
it turns out in the case, I don't know if
we're going to touch upon this. I wanted to mention
it in front that she was the engineer, she was
the mechanic, She's the one that put the ship back together.
(04:54):
And it was how he explained it, in the detail
that he did that I just find really compelling. So
let's get into this case. We'll circle back to the
repairs that were done and how that happened. But take
us to October twenty seventh, nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, very close to Halloween. It's definitely more of a
spooky story. And so Dionicio Janka began what should have
been a pretty normal drive to Bahia Blanca all the
way to Rio Gegos, and he was just he's a
truck driver. He was just minding his own business, doing
the drug, just doing the routine stuff. But Yanka was
(05:38):
an experienced twenty five year old truck driver, and after
dinner with his uncle, his name was Enrique Ruis, he
departed at about twelve thirty am in his Dodge six
hundred truck loaded with construction materials and after an hour
into his journey, he experienced this is really strange. He
(05:59):
experience a flat tire due to the heavy loads pressure,
at least that's the explanation for it. And then at
one point fifteen am, he was alone on this isolated road.
He began changing the tire when the night freaked him
out for the rest of his life. So he mentions,
(06:20):
and he recounts later, he says, I break the car
on the shoulder. I got out, I took out the
jack and tools and began to change the tire, and
the road was completely deserted. All at once, the road
was illuminated with this very intense yellow light that seemed
to me about two thousand meters away, and initially thinking
(06:42):
the light might be headlights from an approaching vehicle, young
guy just continued doing his job, just continued changing the
flat tire, but these lights began to intensify dramatically, changing
from yellow to blueish like an elect arc welder. That's
the way that he described him. And then he continues
(07:04):
of I tried to get up, but I was paralyzed.
I literally couldn't stand up. I had no strength. And
the strange thing was my legs wouldn't respond. I was
on my knees, and I wanted to get up and
look towards the woods that grew along one side of
the road, but he wasn't even able to do that,
and then he mentions that then I saw a great
(07:26):
thing in the form of a plate or in this case,
a saucer, suspended in the air at about seven meters high,
and three people were at my shoulders looking at me
like kind of what we're seeing in the image here
on screen. I tried once more to get up, but
I couldn't. The paralysis became so extreme that I couldn't
(07:50):
even talk. And these three beings observed him for about
five minutes, but in this case for Yanka, it felt
like a lifetime. And he described them as Jimmy had
mentioned two men, one woman woman, distinguished by the woman's
breast formation and the long blonde hair reaching to the
middle of her back. That's how I was able to
(08:10):
decipher between the two genders. And the men also had
blonde hair, but they were a bit shorter, and they
were wearing identical single piece smoky gray overlays with yellow
boots and these long type of gloves, and they carried
no visible weapons or belts or helmets of any kind.
(08:30):
They were pretty simply dressed and right off the cough, Jimmy,
We've covered different types of alien species of people that
I've told stories of what certain aliens look like. These
ones being blonde and pale and not incredibly tall, but
like decently enough. They sound similar to the Nordics, don't they?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, they do. What was interesting? Yes, yes, yes. The
answers are yes, yes, and yes there. What he had
said was they were fashioned forward. The boots, the yellow
boots matched the yellow gloves that went halfway up their arms.
(09:18):
That the grayish uniforms were tight fitting, but they were.
They're observing. He didn't see them come up. Okay. This
is what's interesting about this case. And I remember first
researching this many many years ago, and I've always been
fascinated with it. It seems that when the yellow light
(09:42):
first off, he's on a dark road. The yellow light appears,
he doesn't know if it's another car approaching. He's a
truck driver, he knows what traffic is he but it
was a yellow light that seemed pretty bright and to
illuminate the area, and he was there working on his
tire on the truck, but the yellow light turns to
(10:05):
blue and he doesn't see the craft above him. He
doesn't see these three humanoids, species beings, whatever you want
to call, standing there just looking at him. He's looking
in the other direction. Then he turns around and there
they are, right and they're just staring at him for
(10:28):
five minutes with nothing going on. But he was able
to take it all in, and you're pretty accurate there
in describing what he saw, which was that they all
had blonde hair. The woman was in the middle, the
two men were flanking her. He did say it was
(10:49):
obvious to him that she was a woman, right. He
gave his reasons why, but he said, yeah, that they
had a single piece, tight fitting gray suits on yellow boots,
long gloves reaching to the middle of the arm that
were also yellow. And they didn't appear to have any weapons,
(11:11):
and no belts, which was pretty interesting, no helmets, so
they were breathing oxygen. But this is where for me
after that, it gets pretty strange, doesn't it. They put
a device on his finger. He described it as maybe
(11:32):
you can help me out with this, but he describes
it as looked like a razor blade with a tube
on it, so I'm not sure. The razor blade makes
you think that it was there to cut, but it wasn't.
It was placed on his finger, so there was that.
But they take him on board the craft. They had
(11:53):
issues with the craft, but he was able to look
around and he gave I don't want to say a
typical description of the interior of the craft. I would
say it was completely atypical. It was different than what
we have heard in the past. That the floor was
a dull gray metal and there was equipment everywhere, and
(12:17):
which he mentioned the screens that had stars on them
right now, that I never really heard that type of
description before. The way that he presented it, Christina, I
always found that very very interesting. He described cables on
(12:39):
the floor, Yeah, cables, and it just seems authentic the
way that he described the interior of the craft, that
you know what I mean, It didn't seem like it
was following some other narrative that we have heard in
the past.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, to me, when I was looking at this and
the details that you brought up and the description of
how these looked, it's definitely giving seventies sci fi movies
the like. The outfits, for sure were very fashion forward
during that time frame. Yeah, and then also mentioning cables
as well on the craft. But one thing that really
(13:18):
does make it stand out to where it can't necessarily be,
you know, a big ol' hoax of oh hey, I'm
making a really funny movie and you're the joke. In
this case, Janka had mentioned that when they were communicating
with one another, there were no vocal inflections, but it
sounded like radio badly tuned in with chirps and buzzes.
(13:42):
And on top of that, before he gets on the spacecraft,
according to his testimony, one of the beings grabbed him
from like the his his sweater, his arm, and his
sweater collar. I looked at him firm but without violence,
and he mentioned that he tried to speak, but he
(14:06):
wasn't able to because right before this incident he was paralyzed. Remember,
he wasn't able to move by any means. And then
he gets this this this razor with the small tube
is seen by him and it's this type of painless application,
but it drops two drops of his blood from his
(14:29):
finger into the tube and then that's when he loses consciousness.
And this correlates similar to the colorus Brazil incident with
the Chupa Choopa people believe that their blood was being
taken from them. There was another incident in the twelve
hundreds where a priest had encountered something very similar that
was mentioned by the Diana Pisulka, and her research had
(14:51):
not too long ago. So we are seeing this consistent
theme of the extraction of blood but a very minimal amount.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, and so he wakes up, he's confused, starts walking,
gets some assistance, and eventually makes it to the police station.
Medical assistance is there, he passes out again. He wakes
back up, he doesn't remember anything, right, and then they
(15:23):
induced a hypnosis. Also, there were some drugs that were involved,
and I think it was like sodium pentathol or something
like that. But then the memory started to come back.
So everything that we hear and we know now from
the reports that were done came after the fact. But
(15:45):
immediately after the encounter, he just woke up, you know,
between a couple of cars and didn't know anything and
didn't remember anything. It came back later another for me,
very fascinating part to this story. Many many people interviewed
(16:05):
him about this case.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
They did and something else that we This is one
detail that we don't hear often, is that he was
missing a few belongings. His watch was missing, his cigarette lighter,
his cigarettes were gone, and but but his money was untouched,
still in his wallets, still there in full, but not
his watch, not as lighter, and not a cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
ET doesn't doesn't need money. ET doesn't need money. But
but they but they like a smoke once in a while,
you know, and they like to fire up a heater,
you know. They know what a lighter is. But that
I always thought that that was a pretty interesting part
of this case. The case has stayed there, it hasn't changed,
(16:54):
and it's it's just another encounter, except the way that
he was abducted. There wasn't any violence or anything like that.
But to have the beings without helmet, I find that
very very interesting. No weapons or anything else. But there
was something that was mentioned to him on the craft
(17:14):
before we move on. We've got so much to cover.
They said, hey, is it cool if we hang out
on your planet? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
they said that some of the normal warnings that we
have heard, Look, just take care of this planet. It's
(17:37):
a beautiful place. We like it. We would like to
hang out here, but you guys are destroying it. And
then they revealed to him that they have been in
contact since you ready.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, nineteen fifties, Yeah, yeah, yeah, been in contact since
nineteen fifty Very very strange details in this case for
something that happened in nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It is and I want to talk about this for
a moment. I think it's really important the way that
we have described ET and UFOs have differed through the ages,
not only with our language and how we describe them,
but also our perspectives on these types of entities. Where
(18:22):
now people believe that when fairies were very commonly seen
in the eighteen hundreds, they might have been ET of
some kind. What if, for Yanka, he's seeing these as
like superhero beings from like sci fi movies in the
nineteen seventies. What if these entities were attempting to tap
into his form of perception and consciousness of appealing to
(18:46):
him in a way that would be like, Hey, we're
super cool and advanced, but also human enough to where
you shouldn't fear us. I thought about that when doing
the research for this episode. Just because the detail of
how they looked seemed so out of the ordinary.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
He wasn't afraid. No, he wasn't afraid. And now, if
there's one part of this I just wanted to mention
really quick before we move on. Very similar description to
(19:25):
the Travis Walton case. All right, now, So if you
go back to the Travis Walton and there were different
beings that were on that craft, but he does have
the encounter with the humanoid beings, blue outfits, yellow gloves,
yellow boots, blonde hair, very very similar. Now, would would
(19:54):
Travis and Dionysio know each other or of know of
the each other's cases? Probably not, not in nineteen seventy three,
and what Travis was doing his encounter, you know, was
nineteen seventy seven. So when you look at it in
those terms, would they have known of each other, No,
(20:16):
and had the details of their cases. No. There are
things that are astonishingly similar for me with Travis Walton
and who he encountered and who denote Denisio encountered. Very
fab fascinating aspect of this I always look for. I'm
trying to connect dots. I think we all are. Yeah,
(20:39):
we're all seeing these overlaps. You know, well, when you
get those overlaps from people that have not talked to
each other, you know, like the Lannis Amora case and
the symbol that was on the side of that craft.
A symbol was seen all over the world in different encounters,
(21:00):
and that symbol was never released at that time by
Lannie Zamora. And you know, it's those, you know what
I mean, those are interesting overlaps that you need to
take a look at and just wonder. You don't want
things polluted, you don't want cases contaminated, and that goes
(21:22):
with any type of investigation or anything that anybody is doing.
There's certain things you just don't reveal to the public
because you don't want it to interfere with your work
and your research and your investigation. It's really that simple.
And in this case we have that. I just find
that very very interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It is and we still have so much to cover.
But first X Guy, I, Steve and Brett thank you
guys so much for supporting the channel and those super chats.
And another great way to support this channel is to
hit that like button right down below and subscribe if
you haven't already. When we're looking at Argentina, they have
their own protocols on investigating UFOs because back in nineteen
(22:03):
sixty two they did encounter a UFO flap. For a
consistent amount of months, really all throughout sixty two and
sixty three, there were a lot of different UFO sightings.
So the Argentinian Navy responded by creating the world's first
official military UFO investigation protocol, distributing two thousand standardized questionneers
(22:27):
to bases nationwide, which is a really interesting detail. And then,
you know, decades later, a senior military commander alleged that
back in May of nineteen sixty two, because again the sixties,
which is a really hot time globally for UFO sightings,
there was a crash near a naval base, and he
(22:47):
claimed alien bodies were recovered and secretly transferred over to
the United States with CIA documents done, done done, apparently
coroberating parts of his account that, Wow, why is the
US always involved? Jimmy, That's that's my first question.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
What's going on? Wait? You know, I would say in
a general sense, most countries don't have the capabilities to
deal with something like this, to transport a craft to
backwards engineer it alien bodies, technology and everything else that
(23:31):
they just don't have the ability to do that, right.
And if the United States gets whiff of something like this,
and they've got their fingers in so many pies around
the world, and certainly and Central, yeah, North Central and
South America. So when this happens, you've got to get
the craft off your lawn. You know, how do you
(23:53):
do that? Well, you call the United States. They come in,
they secure the area, they sanitize the area, they take
everything with them like nothing ever happened, and it's taken
back to the United States where we have the facilities,
the people, all of the logistical stuff that goes into
place for the transportation, autopsies, storing of bodies, medical research,
(24:16):
all of that can happen here in the United States.
But it's not going to be happening in a small
country like Ecuador or Paraguay or you know what I mean.
It's just not going to happen. And I love Peru,
and I love Chile, and I love Argentina, but these
are countries that just are not set up to deal
with stuff like this. Now, if we go back, let's
(24:40):
go back for a second to the Aspora. Naval Air
Base and those encounters at Bahia Blanca nineteen sixty two.
So if we take a look at this, we're talking
about May twenty second, which is what you just brought up.
The military brought up this wave of stuff that happened,
and this was at about eight at nine o'clock in
(25:03):
the evening May twenty second, a squadron of fighters in
the vicinity of Bahia Blanca's commandant Aspora Naval Base reports
the presence of UFOs along its flight path. The interception
lasted thirty five minutes, direct witnesses to the incident where
Lieutenant Rudolpho Caesar Galdos and his student Roberto Wilkinson and
(25:28):
report number oh two seven seven nine causes the first
official acknowledgment by an Argentinian military wing agency or anybody
else within the government. It is a crucial case when
we look at Argentina. Now if we fast forward, and
(25:49):
I talked about this earlier, so let me let me
do this before we get to the other abductor or
the other encounter that we're going to do. The reports
that were released, now listen to the timeline here, all right,
that were released by the Argentinian military to the press
(26:12):
from an official report that they had put together. The
one case that started all of this off, as we
have mentioned, was in nineteen sixty two, I May twenty second,
at Bahia Blanca's Espora Naval Base, and all of the
direct eyewitnesses and everybody else that were involved with this
when completely on the record and official reports were written up,
(26:36):
all right. The next case that happened after that was
over Floresta District September eighth, nineteen sixty two, Lieutenant Juan
Jose Vico cited. And check this out, Christina, this is
a doune undone, a burnished medal. Right, burnished metal lenticular
(26:57):
UFO is a disc shape from the side lenticular cloud
UFO making smooth and controlled maneuvers. Now, that is directly
from the official military report. Shortly after that, at Isaiza
International Airport in Buenos Aires, December twenty second, nineteen sixty two.
(27:21):
This is just a couple of months later, a UFO
was cited about three a m. Now, the tower operators,
the flight controllers were Horatio Alora and Mario Pizzuto, and
they were there doing their job watching air traffic when
a pilot from a commercial airline calls them and breaks
(27:45):
into the air traffic controllers conversations with other flights because
they had one landing and one taking off at that moment.
The captain breaks in and says, what's that thing at
the end of the run way? All right? End quote. Now,
this is a very detailed report, but I'm going to
(28:06):
just get to the main points here. Because of the
UFO's brilliant glow a laura, the flight controller could not
tell whether it had actually touched down or was hovering
just above the runway. Then, as everybody is looking at
it and it was bright, it rose up off of
(28:28):
the runway about thirty feet off of the ground and
hovered there briefly, and then it just took off rapidly,
accelerating to the northeast and disappearing. This is an official
Argentine military report. Right after that, in nineteen sixty five,
between the months of June and July, a succession of
(28:50):
UFO incidents occur in the Antarctic region, some of them
producing electromagnetic disturbances and witnessed by personnel from the Bridge,
Chilean and Argentine bases in the area of Antarctica. The
phenomenon on July third, at Deception Island Naval Station, generates
(29:11):
the second official acknowledgement from the Argentine military. Then, in
nineteen seventy three, on November two, six members of the
back at Esport Naval Air Base by the way close
to Bahia Blanco, witnesses observe the maneuvers of a UFO,
(29:31):
immediately producing the third official report from the Argentine military.
Then in nineteen seventy eight Christina, on the evening of
February fourth, at La Florita Dam in San Louis, six
persons report the presence of the UFO and the descent
of an occupant from within, leaving ground marks. The Police
(29:56):
Precinct of San Luis, through its chief, Lieutenant Colonel Raoul
Benjamin Lopez, issues a document which constitutes the fourth official
acknowledgment from the Argentine military. But I'm not done. Nineteen
seventy eight, towards midnight on July twelfth, a low level
(30:19):
UFO siding causes a commotion in the Estession Rombland region,
located between the limits of San Juan and Mendoza. It
was witnessed by police officers and the town. The San
Juan Police Chief, Colonel Guillermo Vulgal prepares the fifth fifth
(30:42):
official military report from the Argentine military. All right, now,
I've got one more. I've got one more. In nineteen
eighty two, and then in the evening of August thirteenth,
the UFO causes a disturbance in the town of Landre
Catamarca and its flat and its flyover produces strong wins
(31:02):
and starts a conflagration. A police patrolman on duty says
he saw an intruder. The provincial police emits thee and
creates the sixth official document. All right, I'm not done.
I'm not done. To actually have one more. In nineteen
(31:23):
eighty six, this is the last one. The appearance of
a nighttime UFO and the discovery of a gigantic indentation
on El Perio Hill in Cordoba on January ninth prompts
the city's municipal authorities to issue the seventh and final
(31:44):
official acknowledgment from the Argentinian military's role in UFO research.
There you go, Argentina. Yeah, you're right, they deserve a
full show, don't they.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You absolutely slaughtered it. Just ba have one case after another,
bringing the dates bring in the names. The pronunciation was
pretty good good.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, no, it was trailing.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I No, I thought it was great.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
All was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Uh no, absolutely killed that you.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Ran with it. Here's the thing, though, these are official
reports from a government's military, in this case Argentina, right,
and something that that, And this goes back a long ways,
and it just shows you how much we have fallen
short here in the United States. And I know you
(32:35):
and I were talking about this earlier. We've got, uh
on the calendar what appears to be another UFO hearing
in Congress for September ninth, And it just seems to me, Christina,
we're just trying to catch up to what all of
our neighbors have been doing for for decades now on
(32:56):
this subject. All of the countries around US seem to
have all taken this very very serious. They've listened to
the military, they've listened to their citizens, they've done follow
up investigations in a lot of cases, routed the military
to these locations and to cover this and to protect
(33:19):
the citizens, and our military and our government has done
the exact opposite until now. And we're still not there,
are we?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
No, we are not there yet. And it just seems
that South America as a whole has been very far
ahead with this conversation, both on a civilian level and
on a military level. They did create it. For instance,
Udaguay did create their They were the first country to
create their UFO office, a public one in South America
(33:49):
in particular in the late seventies early eighties, and then
other countries followed suit, while the US didn't create their
public one until many, many years later. And we're looking
at Argenta and we're hearing these stories of military officials
addressing this. We actually get their full names, which is
a constant in many cases in South America, in Spain
(34:11):
as well. Compared to the US, we get anonymous, we
get a alias name, or just their first name or
just their last name. But in this case for Argentina
and again other countries in South America, you get the
full whopping name, first middle, last, last, last name, their
mom's last name, their dad's last nameybe, even their grandparents
and so on. So it just goes to show that
(34:33):
the conversation is very different there. It's taken a lot
more seriously, and we in the US we need to
follow suit because we're still behind even though we're talking
about it in a more grand scale.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
In a more open way.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, in a more open way. Yes, we're still not
at the same level like you had mentioned.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, yeah for sure. And you know, today it's video,
it's uh video capture it cell phones and so forth,
and things can get manipulated. But if you go back
and you look at some of the film footage, and
specifically one case comes to mind, and to this day
(35:17):
it just holds up and that's the film footage that
was shot the movie, the film over Catalina Island here
in southern California, and you go back and just what
that's film and just go and look at this. It's
not a bird, that's not a blimp, it's not a plane.
(35:40):
It is what it is. But it's captured on film
and that's totally different. And so when we go back
and we look at these historical cases, I say this
over and over again with you, Christine, I think it's
so important to go back before there were things like
SpaceX launches, you know, two times times a week, you know,
(36:01):
lighting up the sky with something strange, and so there's
that and people not understanding what they're seeing, and then
shooting the videos that go back historically and look at
the record there when only certain things were in the sky,
right before jets, when every planes had propellers. It was
(36:23):
a different time what was being seen in the skies.
I just find it very very interesting, and that's why
these cases like to describe the burnished metal l trick
saucer shaped object on the runway, you know, let's go
(36:46):
back and take a look at this. Well, the military
and Argentina took it very very serious. Do we have
time for one more or are we going to get out?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
No, we can do one more, but before we do that.
That's why it's so important to cover these more historical
is why we do this show Mistress with the history.
It's because it sets a foundation and it's a bit
more difficult to debunk these much older cases when technology
it was very different. CGI wasn't a thing. Photoshop was
still in its very primitive era if anything. Actually we
(37:16):
didn't get that until much later compared to present day
where everything is very very easily debunked. We have to
cover these old cases to get an understanding as to
what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, and who who was just on Joe Rogan was
it Tulsa Gabbard, Uh, Luna, Yeah, Luna was on and
elected officials. Doesn't matter about gender. They all look the
same to me. I don't know other days. But anyway,
when she said, look, you know, I can't.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I've seen images of stuff that I know are not
made on this earth, you know, So what what does
that tell you?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
What is she looking at? Is it new? Is it old?
What's the story behind the images? You have to have that, right,
you have to have the backstory where it was taken,
what time it was taken, when it was taken, and
what is it that she's trying to get to. And
then she said one other point that you and I
are just talking about. She said, I would argue that
(38:25):
these sightings go back historically, all the way back to
the time of Jesus, you know. And she's right. When
you go back deep into you go back before nineteen
oh three, before the Ripe Brothers, and if you go
back before the first hot air balloons in France in
seventeen ninety, all right, you get before that. What's in
(38:49):
the sky, Christina, what's in the sky?
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Birds?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah? Clouds? Birds? Right? Right, that's it, right. I don't
thing bumblebees or butterflies are going to be mistaken for
giant craft. So what else is in the skies besides birds? Right?
And we know what a bird is. So if you
see something in the sky and you write down in
(39:17):
the historical record that you saw a shiny metal shield
right flying through the sky, what is it that they
were seeing? And I think the historical record, when you
get back before technology, is some of the most important
compelling stuff that we can go back and research and
(39:38):
contemplate and consider and develop a theory on. I think
that is very, very important. And Luna made that case
on Brogan and I agree with her. I agree with
her one hundred percent. You can go back into the history.
How many times have you and I on this very
program have talked about historical cases in the sixteen hundreds,
(40:02):
the fifteen hundreds, the fourteen hundreds, in the year one hundred,
in four hundred BC. How many times have we done this?
I remember you and I did a show and you
can help me out on this. But we tracked a
sighting from the coast of France through across southern Europe,
(40:24):
through the Alps and down into Italy on the same day,
right in I think that was the year fifteen hundred
where you have the dates are there locked in and
they are seeing something fly across the sky and I
(40:46):
can tell you that from the description of it, it
wasn't a meteor. The thing landed right. Well, let's take
a look at that. What is it that they were seeing.
I just find this stuff fascinating. Like this next case,
let's get this in and out. We're out of time, everybody,
so we'll do this really fast. This is the nineteen
sixty three Tracis case. Happened on Monday, October thirty fir
(41:10):
Halloween Done, done, Halloween nineteen sixty three. Wow, this is
when I was born. This was on my birthday. This
is interesting. Two sisters, Argentina twenty eight and jo Lee
twenty one, were visiting their parents at their parents ranch
with their children all right now nine pm that night.
(41:33):
Dora Goozman. Dora was a housekeeper for them. She was
fifteen years old. She lived in the back of the house.
But she suddenly starts freaking out, running back in and
out of the house, stating that she could see lights
on the railroad embankment about two hundred yards in front
(41:56):
of the ranch. So it's about six hundred feet away.
Do they do? What do the girls do? They go
to it? Yeah, they do what I wouldn't do in
the dark. They go out to get a better look. Christina, Yeah,
that's nuts. And what do they find? Well, it kind
of goes back to Denisio. They suddenly are enveloped in light, right,
(42:22):
and they're bathed into this light. They're trying. Yeah, they're
trying to see what's going on. They can't make sense
of anything. These are these are young women right now,
I'm gonna do the quick version of this because it's
a pretty complex encounter. But in an instant they noticed,
(42:43):
as as they describe it, a bunch of vehicles in
a row with turrets like tanks, right, turrets on the
top and large rivets on the surface. Very interesting description,
especially coming from young women. They don't necessarily understand what
(43:05):
they're looking at like this, and they were unable to
tell if the objects were suspended over the ground, just
like the Air Force reports that we did earlier, or
resting upon it. But they appeared there was a bunch
of these in a row to have six windows on
(43:25):
each with light coming out of them. So what do
they do? They did what I do. They ran back
to the house and locked the doors, right, smart move.
You know. They were freaked out, and so they locked
themselves in the house. Mom and Dad wake up, everybody
else wakes up. I think some prayers started to happen,
(43:48):
right and all of this because nobody knew what was
going on, but they could see. This is just six
hundred feet in front of the house. They see a
long line of vehicles floating above the ground. After forty
minutes lapse, the objects started to move forward through above
the ground and then vanish toward the Sierra Medina's mountains
(44:11):
that were about ten miles away. There you go, that's
a great case right there. It is a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
There's a lot more to it. There were other witnesses.
Other farmers actually sold this as well, which adds credibility
to the story. And we've heard similar incidents to this one.
But to hear these young women see this, to run
to it, to mention that they saw not only a craft,
but a green light that almost looks solid like a
laser versus this kind of haze that we usually see
(44:41):
with lights is also very strange that we don't hear
too often, but with the cases in Argentina, lights seem
to play a really big role in these cases. Right
before we end today's show, got to give a shout
out to Tina. Happy birthday. It is just that's so awesome.
Happy birthday. Thank you so much for being here, for
(45:02):
being one of our amazing mods for how many years now,
like a really really long time. So just a big
happy birthday, Thank you, Tina, and thank you Jimmy for
being on the show today. Who do you have on
Fate of Black tonight?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Man, I got a big one. I mean, every show
this week has been ginormous and how do we top that? Well,
we top it tonight because we have Trevor Grossi on
the show and we are covering his team and the
Stars Project and what they are doing underneath Giza. They
(45:39):
broke the story. He broke the story, and we all
know how viral this has gone and the other stuff
that has been revealed. Well tonight, Trevor Grossi and I've
been trying to get Trevor on the show for years
and he's camera shy. He's a good dud, He's a
(45:59):
really good He's like, man, I just can't do it. Man,
just let me make my films. Just let me do
my research, let me do my thing. Well, he's out
there all over Giza filming and doing his stuff over
the years, and I kept asking him to come on
the show, and then what happens, Boom, Sars happens, and
now he doesn't have a choice. He's coming on. Fade
(46:20):
to block, and so we'll see how camera shy he
is tonight. But it's a really really big show, So
we're going to go through all of that. What is SARS?
How does it work? What is it that they are
finding in addition to the stuff that has already been released?
What could it be? All of that tonight with the
(46:41):
one and only Trevor Grossei. I'm fad to block. It's
going to be a huge show. So I'll see everybody tonight. Christina,
always great being here with you. Another great show on
mysteries with the history. Thank you so much, Thank.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
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I just think you're so cool. And that is it
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