August 14, 2025 • 8 mins
Cristina Gomez looks into where the UFO truth will be told, the push for UFO transparency and disclosure within the Government, and how ultimately the truth and evidence will be revealed; but is at a standstill, both for whistleblowers and those in the Government who are in the publc eye such as Ana Paulina Luna and others, possibly stonewalled over confusion and a lack of communication, as revealed in an interview with Ana Paulina Luna on the Joe Rogan show, and other news updates.
00:00 - Luna Exposes SCIF Flu
01:51 - Elizondo Fights Back
06:57 - Information Being Hidden
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00:00 - Luna Exposes SCIF Flu
01:51 - Elizondo Fights Back
06:57 - Information Being Hidden
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Representative Anna Paulina Luna just exposed why UFO disclosure keeps stalling.
In her Joe Rogan interview. She revealed that key witnesses
keep getting skiff flu, mysteriously canceling classified briefings at the
last minute, and now Luelazondo is publicly calling her out
with receipts. Hey you follow Jers. I'm Christina Gomez and
(00:22):
welcome to this episode of UFO News Updates.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we've had our fill. Like the one thing I
wanted to do when I first got the Task Force
is open up a skiff to any person who held
a clearance to come brief us on what they knew
about UAPs. And I can tell you that we've now
had a skiff.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
First conversation, like when the door shuts and you're like.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh boy, well the problem. The problem is is I've
reached out to some of the biggest names in UFO
lore okay, and they all got skiff flu.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
On the Rogan Experience, Luna describes seeing classified photos in
a skiff that convinced her we're dealing with non human technology.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So I was in a skiff and I can't discuss
all that was in a skiff. But what I can
tell you is based on the photos that I've seen,
I'm very confident that there's things out there that have
not been created by Madkain.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
But she also revealed a disturbing pattern. Witnesses agreed to
testify and then vanish.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And we called skiff flu, meaning like the day that
the skiff was open, that we reserved it, We're like,
we're here, like, come on, come brief us. They get
sick or they don't die, they didn't recover, and then
they just don't talk to us anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So ghost us. Luna calls it skiff flu, the mysterious
illness that strikes UFO witnesses right before classified testimony. But
Luela Zondo isn't buying it. The former Pentagon UAP program
head went public posting after several visits to DC at
the request of Members of Congress, at my own expense,
(01:48):
we were given cancelations at the last minute. After coming
back home again, I made it clear the last time
that I had a pre existing commitment. I was given
three days notice and no guarantees while having committed to
speak in Oregon publicly available. Luna knows the truth and
we have the emails to prove it. I will chalk
this up to her not being informed by her staff
(02:10):
and an innocent mistake. I hope. Otherwise, let this be
a lesson to future whistleblowers who want congressional protection. This
is all about media attention and less about truth. I
hope this is not the case, and I suspect Chris
mellen and others at the AUAPDF that know the truth
may have more to say about this. That tweet is
(02:31):
really telling, but it also seems like it's kind of
backing up what Michael Herrera said just a few weeks ago,
where he made a tweet stating to all future whistle blowers,
you've been warned, do not come forward.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I'm going to be very blunt. If we got people
who are first hand who are coming forward, I would
ask you to reconsider.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Are we seeing a pattern here and then an email
shows a different story. The April IF briefing with Alexondo,
David Grush, and Chris Mellan was postponed to May twelve
due to congressional schedule conflicts. Luna told Asco Poll in
March that the April briefing was confirmed, featuring Grush, Elizondo
(03:16):
and Melon, but the email trails suggests coordination problems, and
some witnesses cite safety concerns. Others, like Alizondo, blame poor
congressional coordination, and Luna admits witnesses fear for their physical safety,
not just career consequences.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That is one of the biggest things that we've had
people bring up is that you're whistleblower, but whistleblower protections
only go so far, and you can't do anything for
my physical safety, and some of them do allege that
there's these actual physical concerns. We actually had someone that
we wanted to bring in to testify because our next
hearing on UAP is going to be I believe it's
next month. And the individual that was actually told tests
(03:54):
by David Grush is actually a former combat controller and
so my husband air for Special Operator Combat Control. But
so we knew the guy via some friends, so we
knew that the guy was a nuts or crazy and
reached out to him and he did not want to
come in. He wanted nothing to do with it. Was like,
I am not touching this, and so you know that
stuff like that happens.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, also, you put those folks on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right, Well, we don't have to we can do private,
but if we testify, I FINKU.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, if it comes time where they have to testify,
and there's a lot of time in between people finding
out that this guy came and told you, guys, what's
up to testify?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Don't freak ot our witnesses JO, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
David Grush received death threats before his public testimony, and
other witnesses describe intimidation campaigns designed to keep them silent.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You have any personal knowledge that people have been harmed
or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these
extraterrestial technology. Yes, personally, if you hear anyone been murdered
that you would think that you know of or have
heard of.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I guess I have to be careful asking that question.
I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Maybe in a if we could get get in a
confidential area of skiff, we could talk about that. But
unfortunately we were denied access to the skiff, and that's
very unfortunate in this this scenario, I.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Just want everyone to note that he's coming forward in
fear of his life. To put in perspective if they
were really not scared about this information coming out. Why
would someone be intimidated like that?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Is this a coordination problem or active suppression? What would
keep you from testifying about the biggest story in human history?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Because a lot of these individuals their life is completely upset.
They lose their their benefits, they lose their pension, their
their health care benefits, and they lose their job. And
and we don't we don't want to make patriots who
take the bold step to have to to you know,
sound up, sound the truth to the American people to
(05:57):
have to suffer like that.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Despite the drama, Luna confirmed the rescheduled briefing will happen
with Grush now on Congressional staff under Eric Burlason, and
he has official protection and access. The Skift testimony could
include crash retrieval details, names of contractors with non human technology,
specific locations of stored materials, and witness testimony from inside programs.
(06:25):
At least that's the goal that Luna and Burlison want
and have publicly spoken out about this.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Hearing that we're gonna do is gonna get us a
little bit closer because we're seeking and trying to get
people in that hearing that are first hand witnesses, people
that have had encounters, that have had their hands on
material that in their official capacity working for the federal government.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Now, with all of this, Alizondo's public frustration suggests the
witnesses are ready to talk if Congress can get their
act together.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It seems crazy that people have access to information that
shows that there's something outside of us that is more intelligent,
at least more capable than we are, and they hide
it from everybody else.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, the next hearing actually happened, or will skiff flu
strike again. Let me know your thoughts in the comments below.
I'm Christina Gomez and that is it for today. I
will see you next time. Be safe and remember keep
your eyes on the skies. If you enjoy the strange
(07:42):
and the mysterious UFOs, the paranormal encryptids, this channel is
for you, so make sure to subscribe as I do
three videos right here every single week and hit that
modification bellve so you do not miss any of the
bonus content I post you right here. Huh
Representative Anna Paulina Luna just exposed why UFO disclosure keeps stalling.
In her Joe Rogan interview. She revealed that key witnesses
keep getting skiff flu, mysteriously canceling classified briefings at the
last minute, and now Luelazondo is publicly calling her out
with receipts. Hey you follow Jers. I'm Christina Gomez and
(00:22):
welcome to this episode of UFO News Updates.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we've had our fill. Like the one thing I
wanted to do when I first got the Task Force
is open up a skiff to any person who held
a clearance to come brief us on what they knew
about UAPs. And I can tell you that we've now
had a skiff.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
First conversation, like when the door shuts and you're like.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh boy, well the problem. The problem is is I've
reached out to some of the biggest names in UFO
lore okay, and they all got skiff flu.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
On the Rogan Experience, Luna describes seeing classified photos in
a skiff that convinced her we're dealing with non human technology.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So I was in a skiff and I can't discuss
all that was in a skiff. But what I can
tell you is based on the photos that I've seen,
I'm very confident that there's things out there that have
not been created by Madkain.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
But she also revealed a disturbing pattern. Witnesses agreed to
testify and then vanish.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And we called skiff flu, meaning like the day that
the skiff was open, that we reserved it, We're like,
we're here, like, come on, come brief us. They get
sick or they don't die, they didn't recover, and then
they just don't talk to us anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So ghost us. Luna calls it skiff flu, the mysterious
illness that strikes UFO witnesses right before classified testimony. But
Luela Zondo isn't buying it. The former Pentagon UAP program
head went public posting after several visits to DC at
the request of Members of Congress, at my own expense,
(01:48):
we were given cancelations at the last minute. After coming
back home again, I made it clear the last time
that I had a pre existing commitment. I was given
three days notice and no guarantees while having committed to
speak in Oregon publicly available. Luna knows the truth and
we have the emails to prove it. I will chalk
this up to her not being informed by her staff
(02:10):
and an innocent mistake. I hope. Otherwise, let this be
a lesson to future whistleblowers who want congressional protection. This
is all about media attention and less about truth. I
hope this is not the case, and I suspect Chris
mellen and others at the AUAPDF that know the truth
may have more to say about this. That tweet is
(02:31):
really telling, but it also seems like it's kind of
backing up what Michael Herrera said just a few weeks ago,
where he made a tweet stating to all future whistle blowers,
you've been warned, do not come forward.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I'm going to be very blunt. If we got people
who are first hand who are coming forward, I would
ask you to reconsider.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Are we seeing a pattern here and then an email
shows a different story. The April IF briefing with Alexondo,
David Grush, and Chris Mellan was postponed to May twelve
due to congressional schedule conflicts. Luna told Asco Poll in
March that the April briefing was confirmed, featuring Grush, Elizondo
(03:16):
and Melon, but the email trails suggests coordination problems, and
some witnesses cite safety concerns. Others, like Alizondo, blame poor
congressional coordination, and Luna admits witnesses fear for their physical safety,
not just career consequences.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That is one of the biggest things that we've had
people bring up is that you're whistleblower, but whistleblower protections
only go so far, and you can't do anything for
my physical safety, and some of them do allege that
there's these actual physical concerns. We actually had someone that
we wanted to bring in to testify because our next
hearing on UAP is going to be I believe it's
next month. And the individual that was actually told tests
(03:54):
by David Grush is actually a former combat controller and
so my husband air for Special Operator Combat Control. But
so we knew the guy via some friends, so we
knew that the guy was a nuts or crazy and
reached out to him and he did not want to
come in. He wanted nothing to do with it. Was like,
I am not touching this, and so you know that
stuff like that happens.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, also, you put those folks on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right, Well, we don't have to we can do private,
but if we testify, I FINKU.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, if it comes time where they have to testify,
and there's a lot of time in between people finding
out that this guy came and told you, guys, what's
up to testify?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Don't freak ot our witnesses JO, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
David Grush received death threats before his public testimony, and
other witnesses describe intimidation campaigns designed to keep them silent.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You have any personal knowledge that people have been harmed
or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these
extraterrestial technology. Yes, personally, if you hear anyone been murdered
that you would think that you know of or have
heard of.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I guess I have to be careful asking that question.
I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Maybe in a if we could get get in a
confidential area of skiff, we could talk about that. But
unfortunately we were denied access to the skiff, and that's
very unfortunate in this this scenario, I.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Just want everyone to note that he's coming forward in
fear of his life. To put in perspective if they
were really not scared about this information coming out. Why
would someone be intimidated like that?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Is this a coordination problem or active suppression? What would
keep you from testifying about the biggest story in human history?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Because a lot of these individuals their life is completely upset.
They lose their their benefits, they lose their pension, their
their health care benefits, and they lose their job. And
and we don't we don't want to make patriots who
take the bold step to have to to you know,
sound up, sound the truth to the American people to
(05:57):
have to suffer like that.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Despite the drama, Luna confirmed the rescheduled briefing will happen
with Grush now on Congressional staff under Eric Burlason, and
he has official protection and access. The Skift testimony could
include crash retrieval details, names of contractors with non human technology,
specific locations of stored materials, and witness testimony from inside programs.
(06:25):
At least that's the goal that Luna and Burlison want
and have publicly spoken out about this.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Hearing that we're gonna do is gonna get us a
little bit closer because we're seeking and trying to get
people in that hearing that are first hand witnesses, people
that have had encounters, that have had their hands on
material that in their official capacity working for the federal government.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Now, with all of this, Alizondo's public frustration suggests the
witnesses are ready to talk if Congress can get their
act together.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It seems crazy that people have access to information that
shows that there's something outside of us that is more intelligent,
at least more capable than we are, and they hide
it from everybody else.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, the next hearing actually happened, or will skiff flu
strike again. Let me know your thoughts in the comments below.
I'm Christina Gomez and that is it for today. I
will see you next time. Be safe and remember keep
your eyes on the skies. If you enjoy the strange
(07:42):
and the mysterious UFOs, the paranormal encryptids, this channel is
for you, so make sure to subscribe as I do
three videos right here every single week and hit that
modification bellve so you do not miss any of the
bonus content I post you right here. Huh
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