December 16, 2025 • 11 mins
Cristina Gomez discusses the latest UAP disclosure news including Congressman Tim Burchett confirming his belief in non-human intelligence, whistleblowers too afraid to enter government buildings, and journalist Ross Coulthart revealing he was given Dick Cheney's phone number by a program insider who claimed Cheney controlled the UFO program.
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00:00 - Congressman Given UFO Security Warning
00:38 - UFO Whistleblowers Fear Facial Recognition
01:59 - He Called Dick Cheney's Phone
04:04 - "I Believe" in Non-Human Intelligence
05:05 - Summoning UAP and Cult Activities
07:00 - Skywatcher's 100% Success Rate
07:26 - UFO Security Threat Under Trump Admin
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00:00 - Congressman Given UFO Security Warning
00:38 - UFO Whistleblowers Fear Facial Recognition
01:59 - He Called Dick Cheney's Phone
04:04 - "I Believe" in Non-Human Intelligence
05:05 - Summoning UAP and Cult Activities
07:00 - Skywatcher's 100% Success Rate
07:26 - UFO Security Threat Under Trump Admin
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A sitting United States congressman was told to get personal
security after asking questions about UFOs. Former Vice President Dick
Cheney may have been running a secret legacy program for decades,
and whistleblowers are so afraid of being identified they will
not step inside a Congressional office building. What's really going
on behind the scenes in the world of the government
(00:22):
and UFOs. As always, I'm here to report the information
without bias, and you can decide what to believe. You
can find the sources in my detailed articles at ufonews
dot com, along with in the description box below. Hey
you follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to this
episode of UFO News Updates. Congressman Timbershed has been one
of the most vocal members of Congress on the UAP issue.
(00:43):
He recently appeared on The Steve d Show and described
just how deep this involvement has gone.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
How many hours or hearings in total? How much testimony
have you been a part of heard firsthand as a
member of Congress on the matters on the matter of UFOs.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Too many, too many, man.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I mean, I'm sat in this office with so many
whistleblowers and people that you know, talking to people that
are have the background. I guess I'll just leave it
at that, and I asked him meet me out in
front of the building because I don't want to come
in because of facial recognition.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I guess think about that for a moment. People with
high level government backgrounds are so concerned about being identified
that they will not enter a congressional office building. Bush
I'd also described well known figures coming to his personal
home to show him videos and share information that they
could not discuss in an official setting. He emphasized his
(01:39):
frustration with the information asymmetry within the government itself. He
described meeting with one NASA official who claimed they had nothing,
and then a meeting with another who showed him materials.
He stated, until a president or someone at the level
releases the files, the public will never get to the
bottom of this issue. Now here's where things got really interesting.
(02:02):
During the latest Reality check Q and A on News Nation,
Ross Coulthard showed a very interesting story that has never
been told publicly before. When asked who might be in
charge of the so called Legacy program, Ross revealed that
one of his program insiders gave him a personal mobile
phone number and told him it belonged to the person
(02:22):
in charge. For those unfamiliar, the Legacy program is sometimes
linked to historical programs like the rumored MJ twelve or
the Majestic twelve, which was allegedly established in the nineteen
forties following reported UFO crashes. The program is said to
operate outside standard government oversights, really focusing on retrieval and
(02:44):
reverse engineering of non human technology. According to Ross's sources,
the person at the top of this program was former
Vice President Dick Cheney, who passed away just last month.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Take a listen one of my program insiders, shall we say.
When I asked him this very question, gave me a number.
He gave me a personal mobile number, which I still
have in my phone, and he said, this is the
guy who's the head hog. And he said it's Dick Cheney,
(03:18):
and I kind of laughed and I rang it, and
I couldn't believe it. I was so freaked when Dick
Cheney answered the phone that I just hung up. I
was using a hiding call er ID so he couldn't
track who it was. And I was absolutely paranoid that
the forces of the Dark State would be deployed to
track down who this cheeky journalist was that had rung
Dick Cheney. But all I can recall is hearing the gravelly,
(03:42):
absolutely undoubted voice of Dick Cheney coming on the line.
But yeah, I've been told that Dick Cheney was a
principal in the legacy program.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
This lines up with claims made by journalist Walter Kern,
who revealed that David Grush privately named Dick Cheney at
sitting at the top of what Kerrn called the classified
UFO program Peermid. When Cheney was questioned on Washington d
C Public Radio back in April of two thousand and
one about whether he had ever been briefed on UFOs,
(04:13):
his response was notably evasive. He stated that if he
had been briefed on it, he was sure it was
probably classified and probably couldn't talk about it. Russ also
mentioned that he does not believe directors of the CIA
or even the Defense Intelligence Agency have necessarily been briefed
into this secret. Instead, the Legacy program allegedly picks people
(04:36):
who will be in their position for a long time,
that can't be impeached, and who have all the right credentials.
When as directly whether Burshett believes there is non human
intelligence at work on Earth. He didn't even hesitate.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Do you believe there is non human intelligence at work
on the Earth?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I do?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I do, But that's just my symbol. I mean again,
I just want I just want disclosure. I just want
to know what we're spending the billions of bomb billions
of dollars on and why am I not allowed to
share things that I've seen?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
And why are you not allowed to save them? If
they don't exist?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
There is more to this cover, so don't go anywhere.
Rashad has some strong words about the spiritual aspect of
this phenomenon and why he was told to get security.
He was asked about whistleblowers who have dismissed any spiritual
component to the phenomenon. Some have referred it to the
so called religious extremists within the Pentagon who told them
(05:41):
they were dealing with demonic forces. Those whistleblowers completely rejected disinterpretations.
He stated he thinks there is a spiritual component to
some of it, but not all of it. He also
expressed concern about people who have opened themselves up to
certain practices, referencing that he called cold like activities. Associated
(06:02):
with some of the people in the UFO community. The
host then brought up Ross Coulthard's participation in events where
programs attempt to quote some in UAP.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So, yeah, I think there's a spiritual component to some
of it, not all of it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Have you met Ross coltheart at News Nation, but he
regularly gathers in California with people to quote and this
is their term, Congressman quote somemon UAP. What are your
thoughts on that terminology.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I'm not a part of that.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
There's a scam segment to that, and there's a spiritual component.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't. I don't get it. I don't do the seances.
I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think I think my soul is pretty well protected
as a Christian, but I don't know that my uh.
I just I don't. I don't want to expose myself
to that that environment.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I just I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I've talked to those people, I've had dinner with them.
They used my name a lot. I wish they wouldn't,
but yeah, that's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
For context, Ross has been involved with a group called Skywatcher,
founded by uf A whistleblower Jake Barber. According to NewsNation,
reporting from April of twenty twenty five, Skywatcher claims to
have developed an electronic signaling system that Ross described as
an electromagnetical dog whistle. The group claims one hundred percent
(07:22):
success rate in attracting the phenomenon when using this device.
Do you think the spiritual and scientific aspects of this
phenomenon can coexist or must it be one or the other?
Leave your thoughts in the comments. Perhaps the most striking
revelation from the Burshatt interview was his admission about personal
security concerns you've remembered.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I was told under Trump's administration, under his first administration,
when we did this, I was told that I probably
need to get some security around me.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
For talking about this issue. I got a minute for
talking about this issue. Was that specifically interesting?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Sure, sure make a lot of people, but I you
know they can. I always tell people I'm not suicidal,
and I don't and I don't stand near cliffs. And
if you found me with seventeen bullet holes in the
back of my head, it's not I didn't shoot myself.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But jokingly, of course.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He also stated that people have been discredited and that
their lives have been ruined for pursuing this issue. Ross
addressed the question of whether Marco Rubio has been briefed
into the alleged secret programs. He admitted that about a
week prior, he had assumed Rubio was read in, but
when he received a phone call from someone allegedly in
the know, ended up correcting him.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
They said, you can't assume that Marco Rubio has been
rid in. That's how tightly this secret is held. There
are people, I'm told in the National Security Council, that's
the essentially the national security advisory body for the executive
branch the President, who are briefed in and who are aware,
(09:02):
but it's not clear to me that they've made the
decision to yet brief Marco Rubio.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Ross expressed frustration that, even as acting National Security Advisor,
Rubio may not have been given access to this information.
He stated that if he were in Rubio's position, it
would be the first thing you would demand to know about.
The same applies to President Trump, who Ross says has
been at least partially briefed into the reality of non
(09:27):
human intelligence, but that doesn't really make him a member
of the control group. So where does this all go from? Here,
Brashett stated that he still hopes to get a fifteen
minute meeting with President Trump to discuss this issue. However,
he was realistic about the diminishing retterms of congressional hearings.
He asked how many Air Force pilots and whistleblowers need
(09:49):
to come forward before something changes. His view is that
until somebody walks out of those labs with something in
their hand or provides evidence that cannot be dismissed as
artificial intelligence generated, momentum will only stall. What do you
think should happen next in the push for disclosure? Drop
your thoughts in the comments. I'm Christina, go for today.
(10:11):
I will see you again tomorrow at ten am PST
for another UFO news update. Be safe and remember keep
your eyes on the skies. If you enjoyed today's show,
(11:38):
hit that life button and if you're not subscribed, what
are you waiting for? Hit the notification bell As I do.
Daily UFO news and updates, rash away stories, government disclosures,
and breaking developments land here every single day.
A sitting United States congressman was told to get personal
security after asking questions about UFOs. Former Vice President Dick
Cheney may have been running a secret legacy program for decades,
and whistleblowers are so afraid of being identified they will
not step inside a Congressional office building. What's really going
on behind the scenes in the world of the government
(00:22):
and UFOs. As always, I'm here to report the information
without bias, and you can decide what to believe. You
can find the sources in my detailed articles at ufonews
dot com, along with in the description box below. Hey
you follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to this
episode of UFO News Updates. Congressman Timbershed has been one
of the most vocal members of Congress on the UAP issue.
(00:43):
He recently appeared on The Steve d Show and described
just how deep this involvement has gone.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
How many hours or hearings in total? How much testimony
have you been a part of heard firsthand as a
member of Congress on the matters on the matter of UFOs.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Too many, too many, man.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I mean, I'm sat in this office with so many
whistleblowers and people that you know, talking to people that
are have the background. I guess I'll just leave it
at that, and I asked him meet me out in
front of the building because I don't want to come
in because of facial recognition.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I guess think about that for a moment. People with
high level government backgrounds are so concerned about being identified
that they will not enter a congressional office building. Bush
I'd also described well known figures coming to his personal
home to show him videos and share information that they
could not discuss in an official setting. He emphasized his
(01:39):
frustration with the information asymmetry within the government itself. He
described meeting with one NASA official who claimed they had nothing,
and then a meeting with another who showed him materials.
He stated, until a president or someone at the level
releases the files, the public will never get to the
bottom of this issue. Now here's where things got really interesting.
(02:02):
During the latest Reality check Q and A on News Nation,
Ross Coulthard showed a very interesting story that has never
been told publicly before. When asked who might be in
charge of the so called Legacy program, Ross revealed that
one of his program insiders gave him a personal mobile
phone number and told him it belonged to the person
(02:22):
in charge. For those unfamiliar, the Legacy program is sometimes
linked to historical programs like the rumored MJ twelve or
the Majestic twelve, which was allegedly established in the nineteen
forties following reported UFO crashes. The program is said to
operate outside standard government oversights, really focusing on retrieval and
(02:44):
reverse engineering of non human technology. According to Ross's sources,
the person at the top of this program was former
Vice President Dick Cheney, who passed away just last month.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Take a listen one of my program insiders, shall we say.
When I asked him this very question, gave me a number.
He gave me a personal mobile number, which I still
have in my phone, and he said, this is the
guy who's the head hog. And he said it's Dick Cheney,
(03:18):
and I kind of laughed and I rang it, and
I couldn't believe it. I was so freaked when Dick
Cheney answered the phone that I just hung up. I
was using a hiding call er ID so he couldn't
track who it was. And I was absolutely paranoid that
the forces of the Dark State would be deployed to
track down who this cheeky journalist was that had rung
Dick Cheney. But all I can recall is hearing the gravelly,
(03:42):
absolutely undoubted voice of Dick Cheney coming on the line.
But yeah, I've been told that Dick Cheney was a
principal in the legacy program.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
This lines up with claims made by journalist Walter Kern,
who revealed that David Grush privately named Dick Cheney at
sitting at the top of what Kerrn called the classified
UFO program Peermid. When Cheney was questioned on Washington d
C Public Radio back in April of two thousand and
one about whether he had ever been briefed on UFOs,
(04:13):
his response was notably evasive. He stated that if he
had been briefed on it, he was sure it was
probably classified and probably couldn't talk about it. Russ also
mentioned that he does not believe directors of the CIA
or even the Defense Intelligence Agency have necessarily been briefed
into this secret. Instead, the Legacy program allegedly picks people
(04:36):
who will be in their position for a long time,
that can't be impeached, and who have all the right credentials.
When as directly whether Burshett believes there is non human
intelligence at work on Earth. He didn't even hesitate.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Do you believe there is non human intelligence at work
on the Earth?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I do?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I do, But that's just my symbol. I mean again,
I just want I just want disclosure. I just want
to know what we're spending the billions of bomb billions
of dollars on and why am I not allowed to
share things that I've seen?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
And why are you not allowed to save them? If
they don't exist?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
There is more to this cover, so don't go anywhere.
Rashad has some strong words about the spiritual aspect of
this phenomenon and why he was told to get security.
He was asked about whistleblowers who have dismissed any spiritual
component to the phenomenon. Some have referred it to the
so called religious extremists within the Pentagon who told them
(05:41):
they were dealing with demonic forces. Those whistleblowers completely rejected disinterpretations.
He stated he thinks there is a spiritual component to
some of it, but not all of it. He also
expressed concern about people who have opened themselves up to
certain practices, referencing that he called cold like activities. Associated
(06:02):
with some of the people in the UFO community. The
host then brought up Ross Coulthard's participation in events where
programs attempt to quote some in UAP.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So, yeah, I think there's a spiritual component to some
of it, not all of it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Have you met Ross coltheart at News Nation, but he
regularly gathers in California with people to quote and this
is their term, Congressman quote somemon UAP. What are your
thoughts on that terminology.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I'm not a part of that.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
There's a scam segment to that, and there's a spiritual component.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't. I don't get it. I don't do the seances.
I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think I think my soul is pretty well protected
as a Christian, but I don't know that my uh.
I just I don't. I don't want to expose myself
to that that environment.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I just I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I've talked to those people, I've had dinner with them.
They used my name a lot. I wish they wouldn't,
but yeah, that's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
For context, Ross has been involved with a group called Skywatcher,
founded by uf A whistleblower Jake Barber. According to NewsNation,
reporting from April of twenty twenty five, Skywatcher claims to
have developed an electronic signaling system that Ross described as
an electromagnetical dog whistle. The group claims one hundred percent
(07:22):
success rate in attracting the phenomenon when using this device.
Do you think the spiritual and scientific aspects of this
phenomenon can coexist or must it be one or the other?
Leave your thoughts in the comments. Perhaps the most striking
revelation from the Burshatt interview was his admission about personal
security concerns you've remembered.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I was told under Trump's administration, under his first administration,
when we did this, I was told that I probably
need to get some security around me.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
For talking about this issue. I got a minute for
talking about this issue. Was that specifically interesting?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Sure, sure make a lot of people, but I you
know they can. I always tell people I'm not suicidal,
and I don't and I don't stand near cliffs. And
if you found me with seventeen bullet holes in the
back of my head, it's not I didn't shoot myself.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But jokingly, of course.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He also stated that people have been discredited and that
their lives have been ruined for pursuing this issue. Ross
addressed the question of whether Marco Rubio has been briefed
into the alleged secret programs. He admitted that about a
week prior, he had assumed Rubio was read in, but
when he received a phone call from someone allegedly in
the know, ended up correcting him.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
They said, you can't assume that Marco Rubio has been
rid in. That's how tightly this secret is held. There
are people, I'm told in the National Security Council, that's
the essentially the national security advisory body for the executive
branch the President, who are briefed in and who are aware,
(09:02):
but it's not clear to me that they've made the
decision to yet brief Marco Rubio.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Ross expressed frustration that, even as acting National Security Advisor,
Rubio may not have been given access to this information.
He stated that if he were in Rubio's position, it
would be the first thing you would demand to know about.
The same applies to President Trump, who Ross says has
been at least partially briefed into the reality of non
(09:27):
human intelligence, but that doesn't really make him a member
of the control group. So where does this all go from? Here,
Brashett stated that he still hopes to get a fifteen
minute meeting with President Trump to discuss this issue. However,
he was realistic about the diminishing retterms of congressional hearings.
He asked how many Air Force pilots and whistleblowers need
(09:49):
to come forward before something changes. His view is that
until somebody walks out of those labs with something in
their hand or provides evidence that cannot be dismissed as
artificial intelligence generated, momentum will only stall. What do you
think should happen next in the push for disclosure? Drop
your thoughts in the comments. I'm Christina, go for today.
(10:11):
I will see you again tomorrow at ten am PST
for another UFO news update. Be safe and remember keep
your eyes on the skies. If you enjoyed today's show,
(11:38):
hit that life button and if you're not subscribed, what
are you waiting for? Hit the notification bell As I do.
Daily UFO news and updates, rash away stories, government disclosures,
and breaking developments land here every single day.
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