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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Congressional UAP hearings keep being delayed because witnesses are just
too terrified to testify. People with firsthand knowledge of recovered
craft and non human biologics are backing out at the
last minute, citing death threats and career destruction. And while
Anna Paulina Luna is attempting to progress these hearings hear
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what she had to say to ask a pole see, how.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Are you get into that statement?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
They postpone the day because we couldn't get people to testify,
And we have another skiff hearing because the same people
that we wanted to get into.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
A skiff got skiff flu.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So we're now opening it up to them for when
they're ready and available at their communians to come testified
as in a skiff.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And then as soon as that yet, well, it's gonna
be up to their convenience.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, and then we'll also ask them as soon as
they're ready here that it won from August to September
to whatever the witnesses are ready to speak, are we
going to get a hearing at all? And it seems
like the most significant public disclosion was your effort in
modern history is crumbling and the pattern of suppression extends
far beyond UFOs, from mysterious metallic objects buried under Egyptian
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pyramids to classified crash retrieval programs. Someone is working very
hard to keep humanity in the dark. Hey, you follow yours.
I'm Christina Gomez and welcome to this episode of UFO
News Updates. When it comes to UFO hearings, Grush is
always brought up. And when Matt last Low from Aska
Poll spoke to Eric Burliss in July eighteenth, this is
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what he had to say the ray pease.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I was curious the thing I texted you. Why I'm
about Crush? What do you make of Grush refusing to.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Testify to Arrow and Kirkpatrick. According to that one, Foya,
I don't think that you trusted Kirkpatrick.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, so he wasn't hiding from Arrow.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, this is why I talk to someone you don't trust.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
He and I met with Aeron and he.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Separately.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
He and Arrow had a long conversation. So that was
just purely Kirkpatrick. I don't trust this guy, so I'm
not gonna go.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, interesting, that's my guess. I don't speak, but you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Just reminded me that you guys sat down with Arrow
this year, so that foy is old information.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It probably my guess is probably you're Patrick.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Do you like where do you see this investigation going? Like?
No July hearing, no June hearing.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
We're building for We're building for the disclosure document to
be to be put into the NDAA. I'm working with
Centator Rounds. I think that that will be transformative.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Eric Burlison, who's been working closely with confirms that despite
the public drama, Grush has been cooperating with Arrow recently,
but the broader whistleblower community they've gone silent. If you
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in the now with the latest DFO news. But according
to Luna, who chairs the House Task Force of UAP
Transparency and scheduled what was supposed to be the follow
up hearing to Grush's testimony, the plan was to bring
forward additional witnesses with first hand knowledge. She was very
specific on that. But when the time came, these witnesses
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just vanished. They said they didn't want to be the
only ones testifying. Others explicitly cited safety concerns, and Luna
was forced to not only kind of cancel postpone the
public hearings, but also delay closed door skiff briefings because
witnesses were getting what she called the skiff flu, refusing
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to show up even for classified sessions. The skiff, Lou,
you know, that's a new one, but it makes sense.
Berlasen spoke to Joe Khalil last week that people can
lose their pensions and their security when they decide to
become whistleblowers, and Luna's frustration extends beyond individual witnesses to
the entire system designed to handle UAP disclosure.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
If you talk, I mean because the whole reason ARROW
was creating it was to be a safe space.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I will about Arrow, but like I don't I think
Arrow should be cut.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think the Ark joke.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Her assessment of Arrow, the very office created to provide
a safe space for UAP whistleblowers, couldn't be more lackluster.
And it shows because Luelazondo had mentioned on News Nation
not too long ago that the FBI is now running
their own investigation into UFOs that he says is running
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laps around.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Arrow been working with the FBI on their investigations, their
FBI investigations, What can you tell us about what they're finding?
Is there anything new there?
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yeah, well, I'll say this first, America is getting a
heck of their money spent very well with the FBI.
I'm absolutely amazed how whether they're doing. In fact, they're
running laps around the Department of Defense's aero program that
was established specifically to look at UAP.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And the FBI team.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
It's a small but scrappy team of folks are really
doing one heck of a job. And I think if
you look at Luna's recent statement that she said when
she was asked about the FBI meeting that we helped
organize in the skiff, she said it was a ten out.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Of ten when witnesses disappear and hearings get postponed. There's
still some hope in the legislative arena. I hope, I think,
and Burlison is working with Senator Mike Rounds on what
could be the most significant piece of UAP legislation ever,
the UAP Disclosure Act for twenty twenty five National Defense
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Authorization Act, And just as a reminder, the first UAPD
eight was torn to pieces. So this time Chuck Schumer
and Mike Rounds tried again with wanting to disclose things
such as rebrish engineering programs which reeved crash material and aliens.
But needless to say, Eric mentioned this to Matt Laslow.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
It's my hope that now that we have a different
INTEL chair, that we'll have a different.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Outcomem Yeah, yep, let's well. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The other thing I'm like really upset about is that
is trying to track down why we were blocked. According
to Tim Phillips, we were blocked from getting a briefing,
a full breathing and because at some point it was
blocked by a chairman or ranking member of either Intel
or HASK And I said some maybe, well, and we've
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kind of I think we've narrowed it down. It wasn't
a speaker, It wasn't Jimmie Comer, for sure, it was
it was one of the either chairmen or the ranking
members of.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Those two committees. And I I think we have an
idea who it was, but but not for sure, right
and try to meet with them maybe.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So we've already had conversations. I've already had conversation with
with Chairman Crawford's he seems open to help.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
YEA wors discussing.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
No, so they're already there.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's nine day difference.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yes, yes, interesting, interesting that Mike Turner wanted what seems like,
according to Burlison, nothing to do with the UFO topic.
But the legislative battle faces massive resistance from defense contractors
and intelligence agencies who want to keep this information buried.
And the most revealing aspect of this entire story might
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be what's happening at the highest levels of government. Senator
Mike ground who's cospondering the disclosure legislation, has made some
fascinating exchanges with reporters about what he actually knows.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Have you talked to me, whistled Williams.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I've talked to individuals who have seen materials that they
were analyzing but they did not know what it was from.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Have you asked to go see that yourself? Or not
not believable? Or where would I go to ask? You're
a sat You're going to do what you want.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
But the question is is who would have it? And
you know a lot of us spend years back and
a lot of them I suspect as part of stealth
materials that at the end YE that have been developed
by different organizations within the federal government.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And some folks like Lockheed Martin keeps coming up from
talks m that Lockheed Martin, I.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Have some of this technology.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Well, they have stell technology just like some others do.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But I don't look.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I just simply don't know. And people say, well, what
about you know, UAPs and so forth.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I say, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
But I would be foolish to say that they.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Don't exist, because I think about that statement. Rounds is
saying he's spoken to people, presumably with high level clearances,
who have physically analyzed material of unknown origin. When pressed
about whether he wanted to see these material himself, his
response was, telling, who would I ask A sitting US
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senator doesn't know where to examine potentially non human technology
that his own government apparently possesses that or he was
told not to look deeper into it. So what we're
seeing isn't an isolated incident. It's a systematic pattern of
suppression that spans multiple levels of government. You have witnesses
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too scare to testify publicly or privately.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You have arrow.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Supposedly the safe space for disclosure being dismissed as a
joke by the very Congress people trying to get answers.
You have senators acknowledging they know people are analyzing unknown
materials but can't access them themselves. This level of compartmentalization
and intimidation suggests we're dealing with something far beyond normal
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classification levels. When Grush first came forward, many expected a
flood of additional witnesses, which people were anticipating, but instead
we got silence. The retaliation Grush faced might have sent
a message to others with knowledge, come forward at your
own risk, and Grush testified that he faced very brutal retaliation,
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including professional and personal attacks. He even stated under oath
that he feared for his life. If that's the testament
a decorated intelligence officer receives for following proper whistleblower channels,
imagine what others with similar knowledge might expect. The suppression
of extraordinary discovery is isn't limited to UAPs. Consider what
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happened at Hadawa, Egypt, where military satellite technology detected something
that shouldn't exist, a forty meter metallic object buried sixty
meters beneath an ancient pyramid mentioned by historian Ben van
Kirkwick from Uncharted X. Tim Acres, a British military satellite
specialist who spent years tracking submarines for the Army, used
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the same classified radar technology on Egyptian archaeological sites, and
his scans reveal four distinct underground levels with extraordinary precision.
But what Acres found at the deepest level defied all explanation,
And this is.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
What he had said to him, As reported by lou
de Cordier, quoting Tim Akers, all layers converge at a
central corridor or avenue, like the atrium of a shopping mall,
where you can see all flows from one vantage point.
My personal interpretation is that this entire hole was constructed
to house a centrally positioned, freestanding object about forty meters long.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Akers described this object as having material properties unlike anything
in his military career. No stone, no wood, but something
metallic with an unknown signature, and he called it dippy
because of its elongated shape. And his most shocking assessment
was that it might be some kind of portal, either
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inter dimensional or interstellar, kind of like a stargate. Yet,
despite confirmation from multiple independent scanning teams using different technologies.
Egyptian authorities completely suppressed any excavation attempts Back in two
thousand and eight, Doctor Hawas, who controlled Egyptian antiquities, threatened
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researchers with national security sanctions and worse.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Although this research was done in two thousand and nine
in two thousand and nine, it wasn't public anywhere until
around twenty seventeen because, also like the Mattahaw expedition, this
was also shut down by Zahi Uas. In fact, this
was shut down a little more abruptly than the Mattaha expedition.
And this is quoting again the expedition team members and
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in their paper you can see the URL on the slide.
This is what they wrote. It says doctor Zahi Juas
halted the mission, briefly jailing its director, Professor Ala Deen Shaheen,
then dean of Caro's archaeology faculty, who was swiftly ousted
from his post end.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
While this took place more than a little under twenty
years ago, the paperwork was not released till years later,
and even then it was hardly spoken about. The pattern
is identical to what we've seen with UAP disclosure. You
got these incredible discoveries, initial confirmation, then immediate suppression with
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threats against anyone who tries to investigate further. Just like Roswell,
the case was buried thirty years before Stanton Friedman uncovered
the story again in the seventies. Whether you're talking about
metallic objects on your pyramids or non human biologics and
government facilities, the response is the same, silence, intimidation, and
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cover up. What do you think is really happening here?
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