August 9, 2025 • 43 mins
What are the protocols when intruding UFOs bring Air Traffic Controllers into full panic mode? How do the commercial pilots react to Close Encounters with incredible craft that defy explanation? UFO airport incursions are happening more frequently, and in this episode of Mysteries with a History, Jimmy Church of Fade to Black Radio and I will closely examine some recent cases, and others as yet unsolved from the past.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Today we're talking about UFOs and airports, them shutting it down,
affecting the radar, affecting people in air traffic control and
working at all of the recent cases, meaning in the
last few years, and if you look at twenty twenty three,
twenty twenty four, a lot happened in case you missed it.
Hello and welcome to this episode of Mysteries with the History.
(00:35):
I'm Christina Gomez and let me bring in my co
host Jimmy Church a fate of Black radio.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Man. We're just going straight in. We're just jumping in, uh,
just jumping in the pool, just like let's go. Hey, Christina,
how are you? How was everybody? How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Christina doing so SNAZZI?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
How are you? Jimmy? Pretty good? Pretty good? Been on
the road. Just got back. So I missed everybody last week,
but I'm back, you know, just another road trip, got
another one done. And here we are continuing with the
UFO mystery. And before I ask why now why airports?
(01:14):
I want your quick comment, quick three quicker like I
three Atlas? You know, what what do you? What's your
take overall? I mean, Ave Lobe has been very vocal
about this right now, we can't see it. It's going
(01:34):
to appear to us for a ton of data collection
by the way around Halloween on October thirtieth, But it's
a twenty mile wide object. What do you think? What's
your take?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We still need a lot more data. However, it is
very interesting that people such as Avi Lobe and Anna
Paulina Luna looking at this very seriously, taking a very
serious approach, and as Luna had mentioned in her letter
that she posted on Twitter, is that she wants to
encourage NASA to do an investigation, get their Guno mission
to look at it in March of twenty twenty six,
(02:10):
and to push for possibly more funding and more time
for that mission. So I think for a congressman to
be like, hey, look into this, it shows that there's
a level of seriousness. Along with she did also cite
abviy Lope's paper, So there's a lot of controversy, a
lot of ruffled feathers with this. People are like, oh, no,
(02:31):
it's totally fake. It's absolutely a comment like what NASA says.
But I think just overall is a very healthy conversation
of being speculative and at the very least just doing research,
getting these astronomers to get their eyeballs on it prove
us wrong, you know what, that's great. But as long
as they're looking at it and providing the data to
the public, that's what matters the most.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Avi's comment comment comment, Ah, yeah, you
like that. When he said, it's something like, I want
to make sure I have the right amount of zeros.
It's a point zero zero zero five chance that it's natural, right,
I mean, that's what data is he looking at. But
(03:16):
here is the trippy thing. Then we'll move on. We've
got a lot to cover, very little time to do it.
The universe is a big place. We understand that it
is ginormous, but for an interstellar object with the vastness
of space to just pick our star system and our
planet out for a flyby making maneuvers and doing things
(03:40):
and orbiting the Sun, what are the odds of that?
The universe is a big place. So I agree with Abby.
It's doing strange things. It's here for strange reasons apparently,
especially if it's natural that this could be out know,
if there's life on board, if it's a probe or whatever.
(04:05):
But it certainly reminds me of of Arthur C. Clark
and Rama and his Rama series of books, and it
just seems like it's playing out just like that. Very
very interesting. All right, where do you want to start today?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay? I think to start with one of the more
recent incidents, looking at Turkey. Have you ever been to Turkey?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Jimmy, I have not, strangely enough, I have not. Go
back Lee Tappy, Yeah I haven't. I haven't been to Turkey.
I've got it planned, but no, I haven't been to
Turkey yet.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
We're going to start off there because there were two
different occurrences where UFOs were seen at an airport and
it actually halted the flights in the area. One of
them took place last year back, I don't know what's it.
This it was recent. I want to say it was
(05:03):
like January or February of actually twenty twenty five at
an Istanbul airport. And this one. What's really interesting about
this particular case is that this was seen for several
consecutive days, about three days where UFOs were triggering traffic
(05:23):
collision avoidance systems for pilots, with controllers acknowledging that they
had to attempt to deal with this for about two
and a half hours, as multiple flights received warnings about
descending traffic that appeared as unidentified traffic on their systems,
which is incredibly dangerous, especially when you're dealing with so
(05:47):
many passengers. If it's just you, like you're just you
as the pilot, it's not as terrifying, but when you
have so many lives in your hands, it's a totally
different ballgame. But despite the extensive air, sea, and land
searches during that timeframe, authorities found no sources for the
radar contacts that pilots described as objects fifty feet below them.
(06:11):
So their radar was telling the pilot there's an object
about five hundred feet below you, not fifty five hundred feet,
and about five miles ahead of these planes, creating a
very persistent aviation hazard that according to the systems and
to the very few pilots that spoke out that it
(06:31):
really there was no explanation for those types of warnings.
Now it was brushed off as merely errors in the
plane systems, but it was happening over several days that
it kind of debunks that in itself, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The first incident occurred on Tuesday, February eighteenth, by the way,
at around ten pm, after those pilots that Christina was
just mentioning, spotted the UFO traveling near Ghazi on Tep Airport,
not go Beckley Tepe Airport, but Ghazi on Tep Bay
Airport at an altitude of around ten thousand feet. Now,
(07:14):
they did turn around and radio the tower and the
air hub immediately grounded all the flights that lasted for
about an hour while why they while they tried to
identify the craft, which apparently after everything was investigated, did
not appear on radar. We've got a few cases like
(07:37):
this that we're going to go over today everybody, which
is very strange to me, Christina, where you have witnesses
on the ground, you have the pilots radioing in to
air traffic control, other witnesses, civilian and ground crews all
making these sightings and in some cases large amounts of
(07:58):
military but nothing on radar. Now we've got some on radar,
for sure, but a vast majority of these cases that
are recent are not appearing on radar, although we have eyewitnesses.
Very strange, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It most definitely is. And then, just to add more
flavor to the curry, that we're cooking up over here.
There was a simple incident back in May of twenty
twenty three at the Gassy and Tap Airport where we're
seeing an image here what the airport looks like, and
there was an unidentified object detected at about nine thousand
feet by both aircraft radar and air traffic control. And
(08:40):
in this particular incident in May of twenty twenty three,
there was a complete twelve hour closure that affected twenty
six flights and diverted all incoming traffic to alternate airports.
If it was just casually a balloon or a bird
or something like that, you wouldn't be shutting down the
(09:01):
airport for twelve hours, losing millions in dollars. And if
you know anything about airports, they only want your money
and they don't really care abow you, especially here in
the States. I mean, it gives me like full on
anxiety going through airports. But so well cloths it down
for that long. Is saying that there was truly a
(09:23):
hazard there?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, Yeah, And we can't blow past the fact that
this was the same airport involved in two incidences, one
in twenty twenty three, one in twenty twenty five, and
the one that was just recent in twenty twenty five,
they shut down the airport for about an hour. Twenty
twenty three shut it down for twelve hours. That's solazy.
(09:45):
That is nuts. That is nuts. Man. We've got so
many great cases. Let's do u Brazil. Okay, We've got
two cases that we're going to cover in Brazil. The
first one. I don't know if christ and knows about
the second one, but we're going to find out. Brazil
June twenty third, twenty twenty two fighter jets and that's
(10:08):
what we have up on the screen. Chase mysterious bright objects,
some of them three hundred feet wide. Christina, Now here's
the astonishing part. Are you ready? Traveling at eleven thousand,
five hundred miles per hour? And it's been called yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:29):
and it's been called Brazil's Night of the UFOs five
just just bewildered. Pilots testified to seeing twenty one objects
appear and disappear, while hundreds of troops on the ground
also witness them, and air force chiefs admitted there is
(10:52):
no explanation. What do you make of this? Gay? Eleven thousand,
five hundred miles per hour?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Dun dun, dun. Yes, that's what I think about it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, it's crazy. Another case, also in Brazil, This was
May nineteenth, nineteen eighty six. Very similar cases spread twenty
years apart, thirty years apart. Over several hours, hundreds of witnesses,
including the elite of the country's military, saw strange objects
(11:23):
that seemed to move at terrifying speed. Pilots found themselves
looking at objects in front of them that didn't appear
on the aircraft's radars. Now sometimes the other way around,
as the objects played cat and mouse with them. The
first signs of anything unusual Christino were reported by Brazilian
(11:45):
Air Force traffic controller Sergeant Sergio Moda da Silva on
the evening of May nineteenth, nineteen eighty six. Now, this
is what he says. He said he spotted first a
light in the sky from the control tower of the
airport near the city of South follow At one point,
he said, he dimmed the lights on the airport's runway,
(12:08):
making the objects come towards him and the control tower,
and then when he turned up the brightness, they turned
and ran.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What now?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But it only gets better, It only gets better. Because
this incident was such a big deal in Brazil back
in nineteen eighty six. That four days later May twenty third,
nineteen eighty six, the Air Force Minister held an unprecedented
press conference with the five pilots who attempted to intercept
(12:41):
the objects in the sky, and his statement was remarkable
by the Air Force Minister stating, we can only give
out technical information. There are several hypotheses. Technically, I tell you, gentlemen,
that we have no explanation. Just the fact that they
held a press conference after the incident isn't just remarkable.
(13:04):
Why can't we get that over here? I mean even today,
this is nineteen eighty six, But when it comes to
South America, they are pretty ahead of their years. When
talking about UFOs. We know that Uruguay was one of
the very first countries to actually create a public UFO
office in the nineteen eighties. Chile came in close than
you had Argentina. Brazil has had a lot of UFO sightings,
(13:27):
and over there, it just seems that it's just a
more open conversation. The stigma isn't as deep as it
is here in the States. So I mean, I'm just
blown away. I'm just shocked that they held a press
conference right after.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, it's just especially that it's the military doing this, right,
It's the military, And you bring up a good point.
I got to meet, by the way over the weekend,
Leslie Kane. Nice. Yeah, yeah, I got to hang out
with Leslie Kane. And she has been at the forefront
(14:05):
of the South American governments and their military for a
couple of decades, and she has developed relationships with the
military of Argentina and Chile and Brazil and other countries
down there where she has met with the brass of
the military to talk about the subject of UFOs and
(14:27):
their contact and their data collection and so this You're
absolutely right, those countries have been way out in front
of the United States. But even more impressive to me
is it is the military that is doing it. The
military are trained professional observers, and they have the planes,
(14:49):
they have the helicopters, they have the radar, and they
have the censors to pick up and track this phenomena
to as well. So yeah, yeah, absolutely fascinating. And it's
the military with these press conferences.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And I have more to this because the official Brazilian
Air Force report declassified in two thousand and nine concluded
that the phenomena were solid and reflect in a certain
way intelligence due to the ability to follow and maintain
a distance from observers, as well as fly in formation,
(15:25):
and the report noted the objects were capable of varying
their velocities from subsonic to supersonic speeds, changing altitudes from
below five thousand to above forty thousand feet, and emitting
various colored lights or no lights at all. Just another
little extra highlight to this. They got their reports declassified
(15:48):
in two thousand and nine, while we're still over here
struggling to get reports declassified.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, and I think we're getting closer to that. But
our military, they are so acclimated to keeping secrets, keeping
secrets from each other, the Air Force from the Navy,
the Navy from the Marines, the Marines from the Army,
and they just don't share information and they want to
(16:15):
keep things secret. And we certainly have been dealing with
our own Air force doing this since nineteen forty seven.
Moving on now, China. China is interesting here. Now we've
got a couple of cases, but China, it seems now
we're dealing with the communist government that controls the media
(16:38):
and everything that is released. But Christina, you and I
have done a lot of shows over the years about
the Chinese government revealing to the media they control the
media UFOs and their airports being shut down. It has
happened numerous times, and one of the first cases that
I remember was on July fourteenth and of twenty ten,
(17:02):
when an unidentified object to UFO forced the Zeo Shan
Airport in China to cease operations. And this was again
on July seventh. The report came out on July fourteenth.
A flight crew preparing for descent first detected the object
at around eight forty pm and notified air traffic control.
(17:26):
Aviation authorities responded within minutes, grounding out bound flights and
diverting inbound flights to airports in the area. Eighteen flights,
Christina were affected. Operations resumed about an hour later. Now,
this is one of numerous airports shutdowns in China that
(17:50):
continued to this day. You're muted, unmute technical world that
we live in, right, and it's hard to catch up. Well,
you're always everybody that does this. Now, we have mixing consoles,
(18:11):
we have software, we have microphone interfaces. Everything's got a
mute button on it, and if you're not ahead of
the game, something in the chain is muted, and then
you've got to go and figure out which one. So
but there you go, you're back.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You get the struggle. When it comes to China, it's
a absolutely massive country, so it would only make sense
that there would be so many UFO reports. However, only
so many have been publicly documented where we can find online.
But this one on July tenth is one of the
most famous ones of UFOs being seen over an airport
(18:49):
and how it affected the not only the airport, but
how the Chinese government also looked at this as well,
because there was even a researcher from the Purple Mountain
University of the Chinese Academy of Sciences who also studies
UFOs by the name of Wang Shi Chaw, And what
(19:10):
he realized is that in twenty ten, he predicted at
that time, back in twenty ten, that great events concerning
UFOs would emerge in China, noting the increased frequency of
well documented sitings. The unfortunate part, and we're lucky to
live in a new age where we're able to get
(19:31):
things very quickly translated. You know, Google has that feature.
Now you can go to a foreign website and it
will translate it to your language. But if we look
back at twenty ten, you didn't get that kind of luxury.
So as we're starting to catch up look into the archives.
We are just now in many respects, finding old cases
(19:51):
that we are now able to translate and understand and
then put into our own archives in our own language.
I also want to mention before we continue, Mike, thank
you so much for becoming a YouTube member. Scott, thank
you for that super chat along with Moon, Michael and
Mark Tessaka. Thank you so much much for supporting the
(20:11):
channel over here. While we're looking at the east, there's
another one that we have to discuss, and that is
Taiwan in May of twenty twenty three. That should kind
of ring a bell because one of the UFO sightings
in Turkey took place during that same timeframe, this one.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
On the same day Christia.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
That's even the crazier part.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Great. So as we jump into this when everybody wants facts,
they want data, they want connections, Is there anything going
and then you have virtually the same incident happening over airports,
one in Taiwan, one in Turkey on the same day.
(20:59):
Now we're talking our data collection and analysis and what
do we do here, Well, this happened on the same day.
Two airport closures. It's crazy. What happened in Taiwan again,
this is May seventeenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So while the one in Turkey, it was shut down
for a few hours the airport, this airport was only
shut down for about forty minutes at the Tao Yuan
International Airport. But overall the circumstances were nearly identical, and
these pilots spotted an unidentified object at about one thousand feet,
(21:38):
forcing this forty minute shutdown, and simultaneously controllers couldn't determine
whether the object was a drone or something else entirely
because during I don't think our systems can really decipher
if things are drones or not, can they, Jimmy, It depends.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Now the FAA, depending on the sides of the drone.
It comes down to weight, the sizes of the drone.
They have to be registered with the FAA. You have
a unique identification number and yes, so the drone operator
who owns the drone and its location are available. So
now with airports around the world. Do they register their
(22:23):
drones the same way? Every country is different. Here in
the United States, if it's over a certain weight, absolutely
we can tell the difference between a drone and a
known aircraft.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But we also have to consider the fact that if
they're military, would they be registered. It's like going to
hear all these stories of black helicopters that are not
registered by any means you can't find them on radar?
Can't that also be done for these drones?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yes, and again it can. Now is it commercially available
to civilians? Some military flights are okay? And the reason
for that is that you have to be known in
the area. To civilian aircraft or commercial aircraft. You have
(23:10):
to let everybody know that you are around so you
don't have collisions and everything is safe. But that's here
in the United States. I can't respond to that outside
of the country now. In this case though, with Taiwan,
all of this started Saturday morning in Turkey, which is
(23:32):
the case that we talked about earlier, when the passenger
plane arriving at the airport alerted air traffic controllers. This
was cited at an altitude at around nine thousand feet
the airport. The airport shut down for twelve hours and
as we mentioned, canceled twenty six flights. But here in Taiwan,
a few hours later, now officially Monday morning, at the
(23:55):
Taiwan Airport International Airport in Taiwan, the first pilot spotted
the UFO at an altitude of just one thousand feet.
Now officials shut down the airport for forty minutes. What
is strange about these two sightings is they happened over
airports on the same day, just a few hours apart.
(24:19):
The difference being one was at nine thousand feet, the
one over Taiwan nine thousand feet, the one over in
Taiwan was just one thousand feet above the airport. But
they weren't able to get a definitive description of the
craft or its size, which goes back to was it
a drone or was it a known aircraft? Conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Don't you just love a good pattern like it? Just yeah,
it gives me goosebumps. It feels so good.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Now this next case, and we've got a couple. I've
got a surprise here that I'm going to drop on everybody.
But this next case, Christina, you and I cut it's
one of the most fascinating cases for me because it's recent.
We have an attempt at video. We've got lots of
images some of this well, I'll jump into it right now.
(25:12):
This is Manchester, United Kingdom. We've all heard about the case.
This was November twenty seventh of last year, in twenty
twenty four. That's a crazy shot right there, that's up
on the screen. Now, this mysterious round, blue, spherical ball
shaped object was sited on the runway right here in
(25:34):
the image at Manchester Airport. Reports were that the object
was spotted on the ground and then took off into
the sky when approached by a security vehicle. Now we
have covered this in the past, and you can go
back to Christina and I's previous shows about this where
we do a pretty good deep dive. It was observed
(25:56):
on the ground, it was reported to the tower and yes,
abruptly took off as video footage was recorded. That's the
craziest part about this case, right Is it intelligent? Does
it know when it's about to be recorded? Is is
it sentient? Now looking at the object, I would say probe.
(26:23):
I would say probe. I don't think that there's a
little dude in there. Maybe there is maybe there is
a little guy. But it also reminds me of the
buga sphere yep yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. A
lot of these. There's so much footage now of these
(26:44):
metal spheres flying around, and I would say I could
be wrong, but if you and I don't think I am.
But if you're an intelligent civilization like we are, what
are we doing. We're sending probes to every planet in
our star system. We're landing probes on asteroids, crashing, trying
(27:06):
to do stuff with comments. This is what we do.
We don't have people, they're not manned vehicles, but they're
intelligently controlled. We control them and that's what we do.
To send out and collect ata and do research. That's
what we do. And if you're an intelligent civilization, this
is a beautiful blue planet, Christina, wouldn't you be doing
(27:27):
the exact same thing?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Absolutely no hesitation.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I think that's what we're seeing here. When I
know we've done a couple of shows on this. When
the story started to break, the images popped up, and
then we have the reports of Okay, I'm going to
jump into the official and unofficial. There were reports, although
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no pilots officially went on the record that this was
cited from the cockpit of aircraft and pilots saw this
on the runway and reported it. That's a professional observation,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It is. Now. The way that this one is different
from the other cases that we spoke about is one
we do have video footage, but we also actually have
an official response from the Manchester Airport. The previous encounters
we didn't really get anything. They just tried to brush
(28:30):
it off and avoid it like it never happened, but
this one. So it's believed that this sighting took place
in June of twenty twenty four. The Manchester Airport did
not give their official response until almost six months later,
in Recember of twenty twenty four, which the end of
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twenty twenty four, there was a lot of focus on
UFOs and i AM, specifically referring to the mysterious drone
incident in New Jersey, which was simultaneously happening in Germany, Denmark, England,
and Sedan is the name a few countries, along with
in multiple parts of the US like New York, New Jersey.
(29:14):
There were some reports in Pennsylvania as well so right.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Here in California.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yes, so it was only appropriate for Manchester to give
an official statement during that same timeframe. Now, their explanation
is definitely an eye roller. Oh okay, they debumped to
the incident and they said, oh, it was a fake
from social media and it could have been anything, but
(29:43):
it's definitely not a UFO. They even mentioned that airport
officials explained that they have sophisticated detection systems that pick
up anything that could be a threat to aviation. But
like the previous encounters that we spoke of, some of
these instances were scanned on radar while others were not.
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So it's not a surprise that if this was a
genuine UFO that it wouldn't be seen by air traffic
control or on radar either. But I feel like this
one really made its rounds. This one was analyzed by
so many different people. There were even AI renditions to
get a clearer look on this image, and I think
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it really sparked interest and curiosity for those traveling during
the holidays, getting into an airplane and really keeping their
eyes on the skies, looking at the runways as well
of oh my gosh, am I going to be the
next person that's going to see a strange UFO's. I
can even compare it to the Guardia incident a little
(30:46):
before this. This was in New York where a woman
captured a UFO on camera and that went absolutely viral
as well. So next time you're at the airport and
you have a windows, see look out the window through
most of it, and if you can't stay awake, record
it on your phone.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yes, I fly so much, right, I fly once a
week or every other week all year long. I'm constantly
looking out. I want, I want that moment. I've seen
stuff I've seen. I've never seen like what I would
classify as the UFO, but I've seen some pretty strange things.
Here's the rule of thumb. This is like an FA
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a general statement. Okay, from an airplane, a commercial jet,
you should never be able to see another plane. Okay,
right now, so I'm looking. So if you see something
flying in this guy's and I have, I have, uh it,
(31:51):
it had better not be a plane. And but I
have seen stuff, and I've shot video of things, but no,
never something that I would think is a UFO. I
did see. Before we move on, I think i've kind
of I didn't say the best for last, but I've
got the granddaddy of all cases coming up. But one
(32:16):
one day, I'm always there with my camera ready on video,
and my cell phone is always charged and ready to go.
I'm looking out the window Christina, off in the distance.
I'm on the left hand side of the port side
of this plane. I'm sitting up front in first class.
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And only bring that up because when you sit like that,
you don't have anybody around you. You've got like your own cabin,
so it's not like you can tap somebody next to
you and go check this out. But anyway, so I'm
looking out the window and I see off in the
distance through the clouds this black line of smoke, right,
and it's coming out of the clouds like this. That's
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really slow. So I start shooting a video of it.
And black, okay, black, not a white vapor trail, not great,
a black trail of smoke. And this thing's going up
and I was like, wow, okay, that's pretty cool. And
then a second one right behind it, right, So two
(33:21):
black trail. Now that kind of leveled out but disappeared
up in at altitude. What normally creates that is like
a B fifty two and older Air Force bomber aircraft.
I never got a view of it. I never saw it.
I don't know, but I did shoot the videos. I'll
(33:42):
have to go back and find them. The videos are
probably two or three minutes long. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that,
I've seen other airplanes fly by in someting, but I've
never seen anything crazy, certainly nothing like whatuld happen and
in Chicago over O'Hare Airport. One of my favorite cases.
(34:05):
It's been covered. Leslie Kane covered this case. James Fox
did a great job. I think it was I Know
what I saw or out of the Blue, one of
those two documentaries covered this case November seventh, two thousand
and six. I'm going to break this down. It's a
pretty pretty deep case. Witnesses described a disc shape object
(34:30):
estimated to be between twenty to eighty feet in diameter,
hovering silently over Gate C seventeen at O'Hare Airport. Now,
this is how it breaks down. Some described it as
metallic and gray with no windows or markings. Now, despite
(34:52):
twelve United Airlines employees that went on the record and
the large number of witnesses in and around the airport,
there was no photographic or video evidence of the object. Now,
what you're looking at there on the right hand side
(35:13):
is one of the only known images of this day. Now,
despite all of that, you ready, here's the dun Dundune.
The FAA refused to investigate the incident because the UFO
was not seen on radar. Dun Dun Dune. The object
(35:37):
was first spotted by a ramp employee who's been interviewed
and is on the record, and he was pushing back
a United Airlines flight, and that was flight four four six,
which was departing Chicago for Charlotte, North Carolina. The employee
told flight four four to six's crew that there was
(35:59):
a flying saucer above their aircraft. So he's looking at it.
He's running that tractor right that pushes the planes back.
He sees it. He's in contact with the pilot, that's
what he's doing from the ground as the ground crew,
and he says, hey, there's something right above your plane.
The object was also witnessed by pilots, airline management, and mechanics.
(36:24):
No air traffic controllers saw the object. One of the
air traffic controllers who was in contact with the ground crew.
Ground crew calls the tower. The phone call is recorded.
I see an object above hangar see seventeen, she said.
The flight controller said, I was looking out the window.
(36:46):
I couldn't see it from my vantage point. I could
not see it, but apparently it was directly above C seventeen.
The other description from everybody, this is witnesses from people
that were also around the airport Christina that the object
opened up a hole in the clouds and the object
was sitting in the middle of the hole in the clouds.
(37:10):
And like I said, one of the most documented cases.
It's a it's a modern case. So many eyewitnesses above
Chicago O'Hare Airport, and at times, depending on the air
it is the busiest airport in the world. Was not
(37:32):
tracked on radar.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
How disappointing. Yeah, I know, it's it's it's almost as
like shocking as when doctor John Koslowski just recently did
an interview with Neil de grasse Tyson and he was
discussing how law enforcement saw a triangular UFO that was
shooting these red and blue lights, but there was no
(37:58):
camera footage, no dash cam footage, nothing like that. And
then people when they hear that, they take a step
back and say, Okay, well, no it didn't really happen.
But if the police were to get a video nine
out of ten, nine point nine out of ten, it
wouldn't be a good picture. People would say, h no,
it's fake. Like you just simply can't win. But in
(38:18):
this case, for the O'Hara incident not being caught on radar,
especially during this timeframe of two thousand and three, I
can from maybe an FAA perspective, I can see of like, yeah,
we're not going to investigate it because there's something really
to look at. But that's where you go when you
talk to the pilots and the witnesses and you do
a deeper dive. But that's not how the narrative works, is.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
It, Jimmy No. And when you have a ground crew, right,
that is all looking up airplane mechanics that are looking up,
pilots that saw this, the staff of American Airlines, twelve
witnesses from American Airlines management team, they work at the airport.
(39:04):
They know what airplanes are. They're always looking it's a
safety issue. It's a huge safety issue, and they know
what they are looking at. Now here's the other component
to this that is very mysterious. Why the fa didn't
look into this. It wasn't quick. This object was above
(39:27):
Hangar C seventeen for over five minutes. People were there
looking at it and observing it, and then it flew
away and the clouds closed up.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It made a puncture through the clouds, giving it that
doughnut hole.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Look, that's right, that's right. And then the FAA said
it was a weather anomaly. Boo, done, done done. Yeah.
I love this stuff when it comes to air where
we have sensors, we have radar, we have ground crews,
we have pilots, we have flight controllers. These are all
(40:07):
professionals that deal with our skies, and that's why I
think it's so important to listen to them and to
investigate properly. And the other part with this, if the
last resort for anyone in that position is to ground aircraft,
(40:27):
it causes so much disruption in travel at the airport.
Is grounding aircraft, that means all of the flights coming
in are now backed up. They have to do something
and then the chain reaction starts. Lately, over the last
week and I've been dealing with this in all of
(40:48):
the flights that I've taken. Over the last two weeks,
we've had grounding of airlines that have had technical glitches
in their software. That's not a UFO thing, But what
it is a thing of is it disrupts everything. You
have cancelational flights, you have grounded flights, nobody can land
at the airport, nobody can take off, and then everything
(41:10):
before and after is completely backed up. It causes mayhem
up to through all of the airports, not only in
the United States, but stuff that is coming in that
is flying international. That's why it's a last resort for
any airport to shut down. Something happened, something happened over
these airports, and I think it.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Was et And what a great way to end today show, Jimmy,
thank you so much for being on the show today.
Who do you have on Faye to black Tonight?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Linda maltenhow nice? Yeah, Linda Moltenhowe, So Earth Files on
fade to black Tonight, Everybody, It's going to be a
great night. She's always amazing when she comes on and
her research is the best. So tonight, Linda Moulton Howe.
But for now, all I've got is go back Lee Teppy,
I'll talk to you soona great to be back.
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Today we're talking about UFOs and airports, them shutting it down,
affecting the radar, affecting people in air traffic control and
working at all of the recent cases, meaning in the
last few years, and if you look at twenty twenty three,
twenty twenty four, a lot happened in case you missed it.
Hello and welcome to this episode of Mysteries with the History.
(00:35):
I'm Christina Gomez and let me bring in my co
host Jimmy Church a fate of Black radio.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Man. We're just going straight in. We're just jumping in, uh,
just jumping in the pool, just like let's go. Hey, Christina,
how are you? How was everybody? How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Christina doing so SNAZZI?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
How are you? Jimmy? Pretty good? Pretty good? Been on
the road. Just got back. So I missed everybody last week,
but I'm back, you know, just another road trip, got
another one done. And here we are continuing with the
UFO mystery. And before I ask why now why airports?
(01:14):
I want your quick comment, quick three quicker like I
three Atlas? You know, what what do you? What's your
take overall? I mean, Ave Lobe has been very vocal
about this right now, we can't see it. It's going
(01:34):
to appear to us for a ton of data collection
by the way around Halloween on October thirtieth, But it's
a twenty mile wide object. What do you think? What's
your take?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We still need a lot more data. However, it is
very interesting that people such as Avi Lobe and Anna
Paulina Luna looking at this very seriously, taking a very
serious approach, and as Luna had mentioned in her letter
that she posted on Twitter, is that she wants to
encourage NASA to do an investigation, get their Guno mission
to look at it in March of twenty twenty six,
(02:10):
and to push for possibly more funding and more time
for that mission. So I think for a congressman to
be like, hey, look into this, it shows that there's
a level of seriousness. Along with she did also cite
abviy Lope's paper, So there's a lot of controversy, a
lot of ruffled feathers with this. People are like, oh, no,
(02:31):
it's totally fake. It's absolutely a comment like what NASA says.
But I think just overall is a very healthy conversation
of being speculative and at the very least just doing research,
getting these astronomers to get their eyeballs on it prove
us wrong, you know what, that's great. But as long
as they're looking at it and providing the data to
the public, that's what matters the most.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Avi's comment comment comment, Ah, yeah, you
like that. When he said, it's something like, I want
to make sure I have the right amount of zeros.
It's a point zero zero zero five chance that it's natural, right,
I mean, that's what data is he looking at. But
(03:16):
here is the trippy thing. Then we'll move on. We've
got a lot to cover, very little time to do it.
The universe is a big place. We understand that it
is ginormous, but for an interstellar object with the vastness
of space to just pick our star system and our
planet out for a flyby making maneuvers and doing things
(03:40):
and orbiting the Sun, what are the odds of that?
The universe is a big place. So I agree with Abby.
It's doing strange things. It's here for strange reasons apparently,
especially if it's natural that this could be out know,
if there's life on board, if it's a probe or whatever.
(04:05):
But it certainly reminds me of of Arthur C. Clark
and Rama and his Rama series of books, and it
just seems like it's playing out just like that. Very
very interesting. All right, where do you want to start today?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay? I think to start with one of the more
recent incidents, looking at Turkey. Have you ever been to Turkey?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Jimmy, I have not, strangely enough, I have not. Go
back Lee Tappy, Yeah I haven't. I haven't been to Turkey.
I've got it planned, but no, I haven't been to
Turkey yet.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
We're going to start off there because there were two
different occurrences where UFOs were seen at an airport and
it actually halted the flights in the area. One of
them took place last year back, I don't know what's it.
This it was recent. I want to say it was
(05:03):
like January or February of actually twenty twenty five at
an Istanbul airport. And this one. What's really interesting about
this particular case is that this was seen for several
consecutive days, about three days where UFOs were triggering traffic
(05:23):
collision avoidance systems for pilots, with controllers acknowledging that they
had to attempt to deal with this for about two
and a half hours, as multiple flights received warnings about
descending traffic that appeared as unidentified traffic on their systems,
which is incredibly dangerous, especially when you're dealing with so
(05:47):
many passengers. If it's just you, like you're just you
as the pilot, it's not as terrifying, but when you
have so many lives in your hands, it's a totally
different ballgame. But despite the extensive air, sea, and land
searches during that timeframe, authorities found no sources for the
radar contacts that pilots described as objects fifty feet below them.
(06:11):
So their radar was telling the pilot there's an object
about five hundred feet below you, not fifty five hundred feet,
and about five miles ahead of these planes, creating a
very persistent aviation hazard that according to the systems and
to the very few pilots that spoke out that it
(06:31):
really there was no explanation for those types of warnings.
Now it was brushed off as merely errors in the
plane systems, but it was happening over several days that
it kind of debunks that in itself, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The first incident occurred on Tuesday, February eighteenth, by the way,
at around ten pm, after those pilots that Christina was
just mentioning, spotted the UFO traveling near Ghazi on Tep Airport,
not go Beckley Tepe Airport, but Ghazi on Tep Bay
Airport at an altitude of around ten thousand feet. Now,
(07:14):
they did turn around and radio the tower and the
air hub immediately grounded all the flights that lasted for
about an hour while why they while they tried to
identify the craft, which apparently after everything was investigated, did
not appear on radar. We've got a few cases like
(07:37):
this that we're going to go over today everybody, which
is very strange to me, Christina, where you have witnesses
on the ground, you have the pilots radioing in to
air traffic control, other witnesses, civilian and ground crews all
making these sightings and in some cases large amounts of
(07:58):
military but nothing on radar. Now we've got some on radar,
for sure, but a vast majority of these cases that
are recent are not appearing on radar, although we have eyewitnesses.
Very strange, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It most definitely is. And then, just to add more
flavor to the curry, that we're cooking up over here.
There was a simple incident back in May of twenty
twenty three at the Gassy and Tap Airport where we're
seeing an image here what the airport looks like, and
there was an unidentified object detected at about nine thousand
feet by both aircraft radar and air traffic control. And
(08:40):
in this particular incident in May of twenty twenty three,
there was a complete twelve hour closure that affected twenty
six flights and diverted all incoming traffic to alternate airports.
If it was just casually a balloon or a bird
or something like that, you wouldn't be shutting down the
(09:01):
airport for twelve hours, losing millions in dollars. And if
you know anything about airports, they only want your money
and they don't really care abow you, especially here in
the States. I mean, it gives me like full on
anxiety going through airports. But so well cloths it down
for that long. Is saying that there was truly a
(09:23):
hazard there?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, Yeah, And we can't blow past the fact that
this was the same airport involved in two incidences, one
in twenty twenty three, one in twenty twenty five, and
the one that was just recent in twenty twenty five,
they shut down the airport for about an hour. Twenty
twenty three shut it down for twelve hours. That's solazy.
(09:45):
That is nuts. That is nuts. Man. We've got so
many great cases. Let's do u Brazil. Okay, We've got
two cases that we're going to cover in Brazil. The
first one. I don't know if christ and knows about
the second one, but we're going to find out. Brazil
June twenty third, twenty twenty two fighter jets and that's
(10:08):
what we have up on the screen. Chase mysterious bright objects,
some of them three hundred feet wide. Christina, Now here's
the astonishing part. Are you ready? Traveling at eleven thousand,
five hundred miles per hour? And it's been called yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:29):
and it's been called Brazil's Night of the UFOs five
just just bewildered. Pilots testified to seeing twenty one objects
appear and disappear, while hundreds of troops on the ground
also witness them, and air force chiefs admitted there is
(10:52):
no explanation. What do you make of this? Gay? Eleven thousand,
five hundred miles per hour?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Dun dun, dun. Yes, that's what I think about it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, it's crazy. Another case, also in Brazil, This was
May nineteenth, nineteen eighty six. Very similar cases spread twenty
years apart, thirty years apart. Over several hours, hundreds of witnesses,
including the elite of the country's military, saw strange objects
(11:23):
that seemed to move at terrifying speed. Pilots found themselves
looking at objects in front of them that didn't appear
on the aircraft's radars. Now sometimes the other way around,
as the objects played cat and mouse with them. The
first signs of anything unusual Christino were reported by Brazilian
(11:45):
Air Force traffic controller Sergeant Sergio Moda da Silva on
the evening of May nineteenth, nineteen eighty six. Now, this
is what he says. He said he spotted first a
light in the sky from the control tower of the
airport near the city of South follow At one point,
he said, he dimmed the lights on the airport's runway,
(12:08):
making the objects come towards him and the control tower,
and then when he turned up the brightness, they turned
and ran.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What now?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But it only gets better, It only gets better. Because
this incident was such a big deal in Brazil back
in nineteen eighty six. That four days later May twenty third,
nineteen eighty six, the Air Force Minister held an unprecedented
press conference with the five pilots who attempted to intercept
(12:41):
the objects in the sky, and his statement was remarkable
by the Air Force Minister stating, we can only give
out technical information. There are several hypotheses. Technically, I tell you, gentlemen,
that we have no explanation. Just the fact that they
held a press conference after the incident isn't just remarkable.
(13:04):
Why can't we get that over here? I mean even today,
this is nineteen eighty six, But when it comes to
South America, they are pretty ahead of their years. When
talking about UFOs. We know that Uruguay was one of
the very first countries to actually create a public UFO
office in the nineteen eighties. Chile came in close than
you had Argentina. Brazil has had a lot of UFO sightings,
(13:27):
and over there, it just seems that it's just a
more open conversation. The stigma isn't as deep as it
is here in the States. So I mean, I'm just
blown away. I'm just shocked that they held a press
conference right after.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, it's just especially that it's the military doing this, right,
It's the military, And you bring up a good point.
I got to meet, by the way over the weekend,
Leslie Kane. Nice. Yeah, yeah, I got to hang out
with Leslie Kane. And she has been at the forefront
(14:05):
of the South American governments and their military for a
couple of decades, and she has developed relationships with the
military of Argentina and Chile and Brazil and other countries
down there where she has met with the brass of
the military to talk about the subject of UFOs and
(14:27):
their contact and their data collection and so this You're
absolutely right, those countries have been way out in front
of the United States. But even more impressive to me
is it is the military that is doing it. The
military are trained professional observers, and they have the planes,
(14:49):
they have the helicopters, they have the radar, and they
have the censors to pick up and track this phenomena
to as well. So yeah, yeah, absolutely fascinating. And it's
the military with these press conferences.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And I have more to this because the official Brazilian
Air Force report declassified in two thousand and nine concluded
that the phenomena were solid and reflect in a certain
way intelligence due to the ability to follow and maintain
a distance from observers, as well as fly in formation,
(15:25):
and the report noted the objects were capable of varying
their velocities from subsonic to supersonic speeds, changing altitudes from
below five thousand to above forty thousand feet, and emitting
various colored lights or no lights at all. Just another
little extra highlight to this. They got their reports declassified
(15:48):
in two thousand and nine, while we're still over here
struggling to get reports declassified.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, and I think we're getting closer to that. But
our military, they are so acclimated to keeping secrets, keeping
secrets from each other, the Air Force from the Navy,
the Navy from the Marines, the Marines from the Army,
and they just don't share information and they want to
(16:15):
keep things secret. And we certainly have been dealing with
our own Air force doing this since nineteen forty seven.
Moving on now, China. China is interesting here. Now we've
got a couple of cases, but China, it seems now
we're dealing with the communist government that controls the media
(16:38):
and everything that is released. But Christina, you and I
have done a lot of shows over the years about
the Chinese government revealing to the media they control the
media UFOs and their airports being shut down. It has
happened numerous times, and one of the first cases that
I remember was on July fourteenth and of twenty ten,
(17:02):
when an unidentified object to UFO forced the Zeo Shan
Airport in China to cease operations. And this was again
on July seventh. The report came out on July fourteenth.
A flight crew preparing for descent first detected the object
at around eight forty pm and notified air traffic control.
(17:26):
Aviation authorities responded within minutes, grounding out bound flights and
diverting inbound flights to airports in the area. Eighteen flights,
Christina were affected. Operations resumed about an hour later. Now,
this is one of numerous airports shutdowns in China that
(17:50):
continued to this day. You're muted, unmute technical world that
we live in, right, and it's hard to catch up. Well,
you're always everybody that does this. Now, we have mixing consoles,
(18:11):
we have software, we have microphone interfaces. Everything's got a
mute button on it, and if you're not ahead of
the game, something in the chain is muted, and then
you've got to go and figure out which one. So
but there you go, you're back.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You get the struggle. When it comes to China, it's
a absolutely massive country, so it would only make sense
that there would be so many UFO reports. However, only
so many have been publicly documented where we can find online.
But this one on July tenth is one of the
most famous ones of UFOs being seen over an airport
(18:49):
and how it affected the not only the airport, but
how the Chinese government also looked at this as well,
because there was even a researcher from the Purple Mountain
University of the Chinese Academy of Sciences who also studies
UFOs by the name of Wang Shi Chaw, And what
(19:10):
he realized is that in twenty ten, he predicted at
that time, back in twenty ten, that great events concerning
UFOs would emerge in China, noting the increased frequency of
well documented sitings. The unfortunate part, and we're lucky to
live in a new age where we're able to get
(19:31):
things very quickly translated. You know, Google has that feature.
Now you can go to a foreign website and it
will translate it to your language. But if we look
back at twenty ten, you didn't get that kind of luxury.
So as we're starting to catch up look into the archives.
We are just now in many respects, finding old cases
(19:51):
that we are now able to translate and understand and
then put into our own archives in our own language.
I also want to mention before we continue, Mike, thank
you so much for becoming a YouTube member. Scott, thank
you for that super chat along with Moon, Michael and
Mark Tessaka. Thank you so much much for supporting the
(20:11):
channel over here. While we're looking at the east, there's
another one that we have to discuss, and that is
Taiwan in May of twenty twenty three. That should kind
of ring a bell because one of the UFO sightings
in Turkey took place during that same timeframe, this one.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
On the same day Christia.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
That's even the crazier part.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Great. So as we jump into this when everybody wants facts,
they want data, they want connections, Is there anything going
and then you have virtually the same incident happening over airports,
one in Taiwan, one in Turkey on the same day.
(20:59):
Now we're talking our data collection and analysis and what
do we do here, Well, this happened on the same day.
Two airport closures. It's crazy. What happened in Taiwan again,
this is May seventeenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So while the one in Turkey, it was shut down
for a few hours the airport, this airport was only
shut down for about forty minutes at the Tao Yuan
International Airport. But overall the circumstances were nearly identical, and
these pilots spotted an unidentified object at about one thousand feet,
(21:38):
forcing this forty minute shutdown, and simultaneously controllers couldn't determine
whether the object was a drone or something else entirely
because during I don't think our systems can really decipher
if things are drones or not, can they, Jimmy, It depends.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Now the FAA, depending on the sides of the drone.
It comes down to weight, the sizes of the drone.
They have to be registered with the FAA. You have
a unique identification number and yes, so the drone operator
who owns the drone and its location are available. So
now with airports around the world. Do they register their
(22:23):
drones the same way? Every country is different. Here in
the United States, if it's over a certain weight, absolutely
we can tell the difference between a drone and a
known aircraft.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But we also have to consider the fact that if
they're military, would they be registered. It's like going to
hear all these stories of black helicopters that are not
registered by any means you can't find them on radar?
Can't that also be done for these drones?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yes, and again it can. Now is it commercially available
to civilians? Some military flights are okay? And the reason
for that is that you have to be known in
the area. To civilian aircraft or commercial aircraft. You have
(23:10):
to let everybody know that you are around so you
don't have collisions and everything is safe. But that's here
in the United States. I can't respond to that outside
of the country now. In this case though, with Taiwan,
all of this started Saturday morning in Turkey, which is
(23:32):
the case that we talked about earlier, when the passenger
plane arriving at the airport alerted air traffic controllers. This
was cited at an altitude at around nine thousand feet
the airport. The airport shut down for twelve hours and
as we mentioned, canceled twenty six flights. But here in Taiwan,
a few hours later, now officially Monday morning, at the
(23:55):
Taiwan Airport International Airport in Taiwan, the first pilot spotted
the UFO at an altitude of just one thousand feet.
Now officials shut down the airport for forty minutes. What
is strange about these two sightings is they happened over
airports on the same day, just a few hours apart.
(24:19):
The difference being one was at nine thousand feet, the
one over Taiwan nine thousand feet, the one over in
Taiwan was just one thousand feet above the airport. But
they weren't able to get a definitive description of the
craft or its size, which goes back to was it
a drone or was it a known aircraft? Conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Don't you just love a good pattern like it? Just yeah,
it gives me goosebumps. It feels so good.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Now this next case, and we've got a couple. I've
got a surprise here that I'm going to drop on everybody.
But this next case, Christina, you and I cut it's
one of the most fascinating cases for me because it's recent.
We have an attempt at video. We've got lots of
images some of this well, I'll jump into it right now.
(25:12):
This is Manchester, United Kingdom. We've all heard about the case.
This was November twenty seventh of last year, in twenty
twenty four. That's a crazy shot right there, that's up
on the screen. Now, this mysterious round, blue, spherical ball
shaped object was sited on the runway right here in
(25:34):
the image at Manchester Airport. Reports were that the object
was spotted on the ground and then took off into
the sky when approached by a security vehicle. Now we
have covered this in the past, and you can go
back to Christina and I's previous shows about this where
we do a pretty good deep dive. It was observed
(25:56):
on the ground, it was reported to the tower and yes,
abruptly took off as video footage was recorded. That's the
craziest part about this case, right Is it intelligent? Does
it know when it's about to be recorded? Is is
it sentient? Now looking at the object, I would say probe.
(26:23):
I would say probe. I don't think that there's a
little dude in there. Maybe there is maybe there is
a little guy. But it also reminds me of the
buga sphere yep yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. A
lot of these. There's so much footage now of these
(26:44):
metal spheres flying around, and I would say I could
be wrong, but if you and I don't think I am.
But if you're an intelligent civilization like we are, what
are we doing. We're sending probes to every planet in
our star system. We're landing probes on asteroids, crashing, trying
(27:06):
to do stuff with comments. This is what we do.
We don't have people, they're not manned vehicles, but they're
intelligently controlled. We control them and that's what we do.
To send out and collect ata and do research. That's
what we do. And if you're an intelligent civilization, this
is a beautiful blue planet, Christina, wouldn't you be doing
(27:27):
the exact same thing?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Absolutely no hesitation.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I think that's what we're seeing here. When I
know we've done a couple of shows on this. When
the story started to break, the images popped up, and
then we have the reports of Okay, I'm going to
jump into the official and unofficial. There were reports, although
(27:53):
no pilots officially went on the record that this was
cited from the cockpit of aircraft and pilots saw this
on the runway and reported it. That's a professional observation,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
It is. Now. The way that this one is different
from the other cases that we spoke about is one
we do have video footage, but we also actually have
an official response from the Manchester Airport. The previous encounters
we didn't really get anything. They just tried to brush
(28:30):
it off and avoid it like it never happened, but
this one. So it's believed that this sighting took place
in June of twenty twenty four. The Manchester Airport did
not give their official response until almost six months later,
in Recember of twenty twenty four, which the end of
(28:52):
twenty twenty four, there was a lot of focus on
UFOs and i AM, specifically referring to the mysterious drone
incident in New Jersey, which was simultaneously happening in Germany, Denmark, England,
and Sedan is the name a few countries, along with
in multiple parts of the US like New York, New Jersey.
(29:14):
There were some reports in Pennsylvania as well so right.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Here in California.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yes, so it was only appropriate for Manchester to give
an official statement during that same timeframe. Now, their explanation
is definitely an eye roller. Oh okay, they debumped to
the incident and they said, oh, it was a fake
from social media and it could have been anything, but
(29:43):
it's definitely not a UFO. They even mentioned that airport
officials explained that they have sophisticated detection systems that pick
up anything that could be a threat to aviation. But
like the previous encounters that we spoke of, some of
these instances were scanned on radar while others were not.
(30:04):
So it's not a surprise that if this was a
genuine UFO that it wouldn't be seen by air traffic
control or on radar either. But I feel like this
one really made its rounds. This one was analyzed by
so many different people. There were even AI renditions to
get a clearer look on this image, and I think
(30:25):
it really sparked interest and curiosity for those traveling during
the holidays, getting into an airplane and really keeping their
eyes on the skies, looking at the runways as well
of oh my gosh, am I going to be the
next person that's going to see a strange UFO's. I
can even compare it to the Guardia incident a little
(30:46):
before this. This was in New York where a woman
captured a UFO on camera and that went absolutely viral
as well. So next time you're at the airport and
you have a windows, see look out the window through
most of it, and if you can't stay awake, record
it on your phone.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yes, I fly so much, right, I fly once a
week or every other week all year long. I'm constantly
looking out. I want, I want that moment. I've seen
stuff I've seen. I've never seen like what I would
classify as the UFO, but I've seen some pretty strange things.
Here's the rule of thumb. This is like an FA
(31:28):
a general statement. Okay, from an airplane, a commercial jet,
you should never be able to see another plane. Okay,
right now, so I'm looking. So if you see something
flying in this guy's and I have, I have, uh it,
(31:51):
it had better not be a plane. And but I
have seen stuff, and I've shot video of things, but no,
never something that I would think is a UFO. I
did see. Before we move on, I think i've kind
of I didn't say the best for last, but I've
got the granddaddy of all cases coming up. But one
(32:16):
one day, I'm always there with my camera ready on video,
and my cell phone is always charged and ready to go.
I'm looking out the window Christina, off in the distance.
I'm on the left hand side of the port side
of this plane. I'm sitting up front in first class.
(32:38):
And only bring that up because when you sit like that,
you don't have anybody around you. You've got like your own cabin,
so it's not like you can tap somebody next to
you and go check this out. But anyway, so I'm
looking out the window and I see off in the
distance through the clouds this black line of smoke, right,
and it's coming out of the clouds like this. That's
(33:00):
really slow. So I start shooting a video of it.
And black, okay, black, not a white vapor trail, not great,
a black trail of smoke. And this thing's going up
and I was like, wow, okay, that's pretty cool. And
then a second one right behind it, right, So two
(33:21):
black trail. Now that kind of leveled out but disappeared
up in at altitude. What normally creates that is like
a B fifty two and older Air Force bomber aircraft.
I never got a view of it. I never saw it.
I don't know, but I did shoot the videos. I'll
(33:42):
have to go back and find them. The videos are
probably two or three minutes long. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that,
I've seen other airplanes fly by in someting, but I've
never seen anything crazy, certainly nothing like whatuld happen and
in Chicago over O'Hare Airport. One of my favorite cases.
(34:05):
It's been covered. Leslie Kane covered this case. James Fox
did a great job. I think it was I Know
what I saw or out of the Blue, one of
those two documentaries covered this case November seventh, two thousand
and six. I'm going to break this down. It's a
pretty pretty deep case. Witnesses described a disc shape object
(34:30):
estimated to be between twenty to eighty feet in diameter,
hovering silently over Gate C seventeen at O'Hare Airport. Now,
this is how it breaks down. Some described it as
metallic and gray with no windows or markings. Now, despite
(34:52):
twelve United Airlines employees that went on the record and
the large number of witnesses in and around the airport,
there was no photographic or video evidence of the object. Now,
what you're looking at there on the right hand side
(35:13):
is one of the only known images of this day. Now,
despite all of that, you ready, here's the dun Dundune.
The FAA refused to investigate the incident because the UFO
was not seen on radar. Dun Dun Dune. The object
(35:37):
was first spotted by a ramp employee who's been interviewed
and is on the record, and he was pushing back
a United Airlines flight, and that was flight four four six,
which was departing Chicago for Charlotte, North Carolina. The employee
told flight four four to six's crew that there was
(35:59):
a flying saucer above their aircraft. So he's looking at it.
He's running that tractor right that pushes the planes back.
He sees it. He's in contact with the pilot, that's
what he's doing from the ground as the ground crew,
and he says, hey, there's something right above your plane.
The object was also witnessed by pilots, airline management, and mechanics.
(36:24):
No air traffic controllers saw the object. One of the
air traffic controllers who was in contact with the ground crew.
Ground crew calls the tower. The phone call is recorded.
I see an object above hangar see seventeen, she said.
The flight controller said, I was looking out the window.
(36:46):
I couldn't see it from my vantage point. I could
not see it, but apparently it was directly above C seventeen.
The other description from everybody, this is witnesses from people
that were also around the airport Christina that the object
opened up a hole in the clouds and the object
was sitting in the middle of the hole in the clouds.
(37:10):
And like I said, one of the most documented cases.
It's a it's a modern case. So many eyewitnesses above
Chicago O'Hare Airport, and at times, depending on the air
it is the busiest airport in the world. Was not
(37:32):
tracked on radar.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
How disappointing. Yeah, I know, it's it's it's almost as
like shocking as when doctor John Koslowski just recently did
an interview with Neil de grasse Tyson and he was
discussing how law enforcement saw a triangular UFO that was
shooting these red and blue lights, but there was no
(37:58):
camera footage, no dash cam footage, nothing like that. And
then people when they hear that, they take a step
back and say, Okay, well, no it didn't really happen.
But if the police were to get a video nine
out of ten, nine point nine out of ten, it
wouldn't be a good picture. People would say, h no,
it's fake. Like you just simply can't win. But in
(38:18):
this case, for the O'Hara incident not being caught on radar,
especially during this timeframe of two thousand and three, I
can from maybe an FAA perspective, I can see of like, yeah,
we're not going to investigate it because there's something really
to look at. But that's where you go when you
talk to the pilots and the witnesses and you do
a deeper dive. But that's not how the narrative works, is.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
It, Jimmy No. And when you have a ground crew, right,
that is all looking up airplane mechanics that are looking up,
pilots that saw this, the staff of American Airlines, twelve
witnesses from American Airlines management team, they work at the airport.
(39:04):
They know what airplanes are. They're always looking it's a
safety issue. It's a huge safety issue, and they know
what they are looking at. Now here's the other component
to this that is very mysterious. Why the fa didn't
look into this. It wasn't quick. This object was above
(39:27):
Hangar C seventeen for over five minutes. People were there
looking at it and observing it, and then it flew
away and the clouds closed up.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It made a puncture through the clouds, giving it that
doughnut hole.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Look, that's right, that's right. And then the FAA said
it was a weather anomaly. Boo, done, done done. Yeah.
I love this stuff when it comes to air where
we have sensors, we have radar, we have ground crews,
we have pilots, we have flight controllers. These are all
(40:07):
professionals that deal with our skies, and that's why I
think it's so important to listen to them and to
investigate properly. And the other part with this, if the
last resort for anyone in that position is to ground aircraft,
(40:27):
it causes so much disruption in travel at the airport.
Is grounding aircraft, that means all of the flights coming
in are now backed up. They have to do something
and then the chain reaction starts. Lately, over the last
week and I've been dealing with this in all of
(40:48):
the flights that I've taken. Over the last two weeks,
we've had grounding of airlines that have had technical glitches
in their software. That's not a UFO thing, But what
it is a thing of is it disrupts everything. You
have cancelational flights, you have grounded flights, nobody can land
at the airport, nobody can take off, and then everything
(41:10):
before and after is completely backed up. It causes mayhem
up to through all of the airports, not only in
the United States, but stuff that is coming in that
is flying international. That's why it's a last resort for
any airport to shut down. Something happened, something happened over
these airports, and I think it.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Was et And what a great way to end today show, Jimmy,
thank you so much for being on the show today.
Who do you have on Faye to black Tonight?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Linda maltenhow nice? Yeah, Linda Moltenhowe, So Earth Files on
fade to black Tonight, Everybody, It's going to be a
great night. She's always amazing when she comes on and
her research is the best. So tonight, Linda Moulton Howe.
But for now, all I've got is go back Lee Teppy,
I'll talk to you soona great to be back.
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