January 16, 2025 • 60 mins
This week, we’re reaching into the October Strange Talk archives to bring you a previously unaired episode—a special post-Halloween episode recorded during the time Alyx was battling a case of the dreaded lost voice. (Don’t worry, they’re fully recovered now, and their voice is as sharp as ever!)
In this hauntingly fun episode, Alyx and Creature dive into a cauldron of bizarre and thought-provoking weird news articles. First, we explore the unexpected question: could CDs be making a comeback in our increasingly digital world? From retro aesthetics to concerns about digital permanence, we’ll dig into why some could end up dusting off their old disc collections due to an imperfection in CDs allowing for more storage.Next, things take a spectral turn as we discuss the eerie theory that ghosts may “die” again after 100 years. What could cause a spirit to vanish from existence, and does this explain why some hauntings fade over time? Does it also explain why we don't see ghost dinosaurs?Finally, we leave Earth behind for some out-of-this-world discoveries—Martian meltwater has been found, and it could hold secrets about life on the Red Planet. What does this mean for science, space exploration, and the possibility of extraterrestrial life?As always, Alyx brings their expertise in technology and cybersecurity to the table with a practical and timely discussion on keeping your data safe in an increasingly connected world. Whether you’re worried about human hackers or spectral saboteurs, you won’t want to miss these tips.Tune in for a mix of the weird, the spooky, and the fascinating in this special lost episode of Strange Talk. It’s the perfect way to extend your Halloween vibes—no matter what time of year it is!Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Intro by Star Silk, The Ghost That Never Walked by Bill Murray, and backing tracks by Panda Beats.
In this hauntingly fun episode, Alyx and Creature dive into a cauldron of bizarre and thought-provoking weird news articles. First, we explore the unexpected question: could CDs be making a comeback in our increasingly digital world? From retro aesthetics to concerns about digital permanence, we’ll dig into why some could end up dusting off their old disc collections due to an imperfection in CDs allowing for more storage.Next, things take a spectral turn as we discuss the eerie theory that ghosts may “die” again after 100 years. What could cause a spirit to vanish from existence, and does this explain why some hauntings fade over time? Does it also explain why we don't see ghost dinosaurs?Finally, we leave Earth behind for some out-of-this-world discoveries—Martian meltwater has been found, and it could hold secrets about life on the Red Planet. What does this mean for science, space exploration, and the possibility of extraterrestrial life?As always, Alyx brings their expertise in technology and cybersecurity to the table with a practical and timely discussion on keeping your data safe in an increasingly connected world. Whether you’re worried about human hackers or spectral saboteurs, you won’t want to miss these tips.Tune in for a mix of the weird, the spooky, and the fascinating in this special lost episode of Strange Talk. It’s the perfect way to extend your Halloween vibes—no matter what time of year it is!Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Intro by Star Silk, The Ghost That Never Walked by Bill Murray, and backing tracks by Panda Beats.
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Speaker 1 (01:29):
Good evening and welcome to the hour dedicated to talk
about things strange, weird, and paranormal. You're listening to Strange Talk,
broadcasting on sixteen sixty AM in Northside ninety one point
seven FMHG two WVXU and Cincinnati. We're also streaming at
Radio ortterfact dot com around the entire planet Earth. The
intro track to this episode, in most of our episodes,
is the Strange Talk intro by Star Silk and I'm
(01:52):
your host, Alex.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And Don your host Ranger.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, here we go. We've got some new backing tracks here,
so trying to learn where that balance is versus us talking.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's fun. We like to keep things, you know, changing
here all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yep, that's always trying to keep keep the mood up
or down.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Rather, we're all around.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean we just we just came off of Halloween
last week, which was a ton of fun.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Did all of your Halloween wishes end up coming true?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes? Yes they did. How about yours?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean, I'm dressed like a bear right now, so
we're still riding that Halloween trade.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I guess keeping it fair all I like it.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I have to say.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
All of my Halloween dreams came true, including the ones
that I did not know were a dream. I was
running karaoke on Halloween night and one of our regulars
came dressed as a sexy Monopoly Man and sang ABBA's Money, Money, Money,
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and it is one of the best things I've ever
seen in my life of just sexy Monopoly man thrown
around Monopoly money into the masses.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It was beautiful. I have no notes.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I don't know that Halloween will ever be able to
be like topped By That honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Fair enough, but uh yeah, I had a hole six
trick or treaters stop by.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We didn't get any, and I kind of didn't think
we would get any. But I don't know why I
said we the neighborhood that I moved to a few
months back. I've never seen a single child in this neighborhood,
so I don't know why I was expecting there to
be some trigger treaters. It's just like everybody just has dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Live in a millennial neighborhood I see.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't even know, honestly, it seems to be a
lot more gen x honestly, but it's just just dogs,
dogs everywhere, and I'm fine with that. I got to
pet four.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Dogs Friday night.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Anyway. I could talk about dogs for hours.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So we're gonna we're gonna move on from that because
speaking of dogs.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Welcome to straight straight talk, straight, no strays.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We want all dogs to have homes where they get pet.
The torrid meteor shower is this week. It will peak
November fifth through the twelfth will be the best time
to look up for those. The tourreds are the ones
that are like the brighton coloral. They look like shooting
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stars passing by. They usually show up around this time
in year, middle of October, kind of middle of November.
But there will be roughly eight to twelve meteors per hour.
So nice consistent meteor shower.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Uh that's almost less more than one a minute, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Uh something like that. Yeah, I can't do math, not
right now, but not right now is my brain's just gone,
So math math goes bye bye. As soon as the
brain goes bye bye, you can probably also hear it.
My voice has been in and out for the last
(05:53):
two weeks. Uh, so weather changes.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
How long ago I was scar Fest? That was uh
scare Fest three weeks ago now.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Was scarfast in September October. I don't remember one. Two,
it was three weeks ago. It was three weeks ago.
But the weather's been changing back and forth since then.
Like seriously, it's been like thirty degrees at night and
then eighties agree during eighty degrees during the day, and
my whole body is just like giving up. Is like
I don't know what temperature it is. I don't have
(06:29):
a voice. It just you know, it is what it is.
But maybe the toward meteor shower will fix all that.
I don't know why I would, but something something When
you wish upon a star. Uh, speaking of stars, do
you want to tell us a little bit about the
(06:50):
Sun and it's solar maximum?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I certainly would. So NASA has announced that the Sun
has reached a solar maximum.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And what is solar maximum?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Uh? That's a good question. This it's a repeating crescendo
of solar activity that often comes with increased solar flares
through to form. It seems that there are another flare
every few days. Rapid fire solar flares have been lighting
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up the night sky with the Aurora borealis as far
south as Florida, and Puerto Rico. Since last year, the
solar max has projected to last well into the second
half of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So no wonder.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You know, I haven't been having a voice, and everything's
been pure chaos. The Sun's just like, hey, guys, guess
what I'm gonna do A cool trick.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Don't watch me do a flip?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, I like.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
This sun just learned how to alie for the first time.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's funny that you mentioned that, because this is just
part of the natural cycle that the Sun does. It
just goes between low and high activity, much like most
things in life. Right now, we're in solar cycle twenty five,
which is the twenty fifth observed solar cycles, and signed
just started recording them, and roughly every eleven years, at
(08:21):
the peak of the solar cycle, the Sun's magnetic poles flip,
so it is quite literally doing a flip.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, it's magnetic poles are not the toll Sun. That'd
be wild, though, I.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Mean, could we really tell if it was, though, I mean,
it is just a big ball offire.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I mean I had the scientists to be able to
just check that out, I think, But yeah, yeah, with
it doing the Sun does that about every eleven years.
But like, imagine that happening on Earth. That would mess
us up so bad. It'd be pure chaos. Birds wouldn't
know where to go.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Be you know, all your magnets would be used or
not magnets. Compasses would be useless.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, no, that you could still use them, that it
would just take you the opposite as long as you
know to read it backwards.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think, right, yeah, but most people can't read compasses.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I don't think, well, probably not anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I always bring a compass with me when I go
hiking because you never know if your phone's gonna like
lose service or power and then you're stuck in the woods.
So I always bring a paper map and compass. I
wanted to practice doing that, because you never know when
you're a need to.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I had a I used to live in a house
that face directly north, and I could kind of gauge
wherever I was in the nearby town because I knew
which way my house faced. I could always gauge which
way was north. And I'm very sad I lost that
(09:59):
ability because that was the very cool ability to just
be able to geographically know which way was north, wherever you.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Were, Yeah, that would be very helpful.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Uh, I was gonna say, do you I wonder if
this stuff affects us like the full moon does.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I would imagine so, but not in the same way.
I mean, it definitely makes us more cranky because it's hot,
I mean straight.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Out instead of getting crazy like with full moons, we
just get sad. But it feels like that wouldn't be
something that some would do. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Soun's not my business. I'm not a creature of the
daytime in the slightest. That article, by the way, is
by Jessica Hall from extreamtech dot com and was supposed.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
To on October twenty sixth, twenty four.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes, and moving on to another you know, giant red
mass in the sky. This is also from Extreme Extreme
Tech from one of my favorite writers, Ryan Whitwam, solely
because his last name is so difficult to say, but yeah,
(11:28):
NASA is proposing searching for life in Martian meltwater. Mars's
dusty ice deposits could imitate a known reservoir of life
on Earth. So from what we know, about one fifth
of Mars was once underwater, so far obviously we have
not found any you know, little green men on Mars
(11:50):
or anything like that, but that doesn't mean we're gonna
stop looking. The NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory JPL is focusing
on a potential microcosm of life on Mars. The new
study proposes that pockets of meltwater hiding within ice deposits
could provide a home for microbial life, much as similar
(12:11):
environments do on Earth. Mars is a famously icy planet.
It's the only planet in the Solar System besides Earth
with ice caps. However, most of the ice we can
see on Mars's frozen carbon dioxide from its thin atmosphere.
There is some water ice, though, and that's what the
researchers behind the new study are modeling. So we might find,
(12:34):
you know, our first life on Mars, possibly in this water,
which could also possibly prove or disprove the theory that.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Octopus actually came from Mars. That is a theory that
I've heard.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So wouldn't it be wild if they end up just like, oh,
there's just an octopus in this water here.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, that would I mean, that would be pretty cool, though, Marsians.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Would be pretty cool, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What what would what would we call a Martian octopus.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think it's still just be an octopus because at
that point they would have come from Mars, so we'd
just be like, well, how did you.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Little guys get here? And the answer.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I got nothing? No, I got nothing. I feel like
there's gonna be like a really clever name, but the isn't.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I just it's not. It's not coming to me right now.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't know. I feel like I feel like science
names are either very clever or just like the most
unoriginal thing you could have made.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well we should.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
We should let bird researchers name it, because they come
up with the most hilarious names.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I know. But yeah, there's a spider named after David Bowie,
and a gene named after Sonic the Hedgehog, and a
gene that destroys that gene named after doctor robot Nick.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I mean, why not, honestly, But yeah, the meltwater.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
One of the researchers, Phil Christensen from Arizona State University,
likened it to a greenhouse inside of an icy cage.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So basically it's just like this.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Little warmer, moist spot where life can just kind of thrive.
I'm thinking of it more like a Petri dish. But
I'm not a researcher, and I'd assume he knows more
than I do. I would really help.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So No, I know, I know there is life on Mars.
It's just what primordial life isn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, they they haven't really confirmed that yet.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I thought they'd I thought they'd confirmed that there was.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
A They seen signs that there might be something. But
I mean, ah, we we struggle. But a man in
Missouri saw what might be a sign of life in
the skies. If you want to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yes, Uh, the Missouri man shares a video of unusual
sighting in the sky. Missouri man isn't sure what he
saw in the sky a few years ago, but he's
not done searching. Uh let's see the app developer maybe Halloween,
but this nxtions like this and others. Uh in Kansas City, Missouri. Uh,
(15:32):
it's a cube, you hear the guys say on the video.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah you might've just heard me pressing play on the
video because I wanted to look at it. And uh, yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Is a cube. That's a big old rainbow cube.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's a cube with life.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That is a spinning rainbow cube. Like I've never seen
something move like that that is actually wild.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Say, I haven't got to the cube yet.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I just have.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
A Kansas City TV personnel of going, it's Halloween. Oh
that is that is definitely a cube.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's definitely a rainbow cube, like spinning through the air
like it looks like a video game glitch. Honestly, that's
why I know what?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know what? It's spinning in rhythm with don't you what?
You turn me right round, right round?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Like my first thought was spooky, scary skeletons, because it's
still Halloween in my heart. This article is coming from
KMBC News nine ABC, which is a mouthful, but you know,
thank you Martin Augustine. This was updated on Halloween at
ten thirty four pm. And yeah, that's a real weird video.
(16:51):
I guess the video was from three years ago, but
he's still looking for answers, and clearly this news station
was looking for something weird to talk about on Halloween.
But the app that they mentioned is called Enigma. It
launched in May of last year apparently, and it makes
(17:13):
it easy to upload videos and provide other information regarding
unexplained objects in the sky. So that's why they're hoping
to find more information on these sightings. Basically, I'm picturing
this as like I'm picturing this as basically Facebook Mobile
(17:33):
for UFO sightings, or like maybe more like Tender for
UFO sightings, Like tell me more about this.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
If anybody can use tender.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
UFO people, I probably you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
And I have both met our fair share of UFO people.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, but yeah, no, I don't know. I think it's
cool that they're making an app for that. There's literally
not for everything these days, and maybe we'll get an
answer on this wild rotating cube through the sky man, you.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Know, honestly, like all jokes aside that.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Is no, that's a wild video, bizarre thing.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Like yeah again, Justin Johnson was the one who posted that,
And there's a quoverman here that says we're on the
precipice of finding out something that can change Humandy forever.
This is all very exciting to me, and I feel
that I.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I make a lot of jokes, but it's one of
those things where, like, you know, most UFO footage we see,
I'm assuming you've seen as about as much as I have, Alex.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Oh, Yeah, I've seen a lot of them that are
very clearly just like a plane.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, a plane, or like just oh, that's clearly something right.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
To be fair, most of them are like top secret
military planes. That's like, okay, yeah, I see why you
would think that's a UFO.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But this thing is like legitimately interesting looking.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I make jokes, but yeah, I don't have an explanation
for that one.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's definitely not a Sandhill crane.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
The fact that it's just a cube is what's messing
me up.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I do kind of like the idea of like somewhere
far away, some kind of explosion happened, just a big
freight cube just got.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And now we're like, wow, look at that up in
the sky, and it's just it's just somebody's like it's
like the cargo thing. It's like someone's lunch box just
flying through the air at astronomical speeds. Or maybe on
a different planet, disco balls are cubes and they're just
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like oh party. Uh have I ever told you about
the time that I that I really thought that I
was seeing like a UFO descending.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I feel like I've heard this, but tell me again.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So I have had like actual UFO settings, but uh,
right around the time actually that we started doing strange talk.
I was listening to a lot of coast to coast
am and UH. At the time, I was working on
this gigantic art project. It was like me and a
bunch of friends. We were working on in it in
UH a friend of mine's backyard, And I look up
(20:45):
and I see these three lights rotating around each other
like in a triangle formation, like they're they're stuck rotating
around each other like that. And I'm seeing this in
the sky, and like I said, I'm listening to a
lot of coast coasts. So my first thought I was like,
am I like actually seeing like a like a really
like very clear U foe right now? And so like
(21:08):
I start googling on the internet, like looking up trying
to find like, okay, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Like what could possibly explain this? But I wasn't like
finding anything.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So I like run out to the front of the building,
like genuinely just in awe where I'm just like are
they landing right now? Like what do I do? Do
I go meet them? Do I go talk to them?
Like what do I do in this situation? Do I
run for my life? And around then one of my
friends finally found that there was actually a fire lantern
festival going on in town. But it was just like
(21:39):
it was so unexplainable to me in that moment because
I hadn't been able to find anything and I'd never
seen something move like that that I was like, oh
my gosh, it's happening, like they're here, they're landing right now.
What do I do? And I never decided on an answer.
I was just like WHOA. I was just so in
AWE just just struck it. So that's told me that
(22:04):
I need to get my plan together so I know
what to do if I for real see the aliens descend.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
So yeah, honestly, it's one of those like I had
a I think we talked about this before. I had
a minor UFO experience that I attribute to maybe have
even just been like a dream as a child.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But it's I've definitely seen things that I mean, like,
I'm pretty sure was a UFO. I like, to this day,
I still a minute to find an explanation for it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It is interesting funny you mentioned dreams though, because researchers
have achieved the first successful communication between dreaming individuals, so
commercializing dreams could be a nightmare, because you know that's
where they're gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
This article is.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
From tech Spot, written by Sean Knight, and basically, researchers
at a California based sleep startup claim it's possible to
communicate with others while dreaming, not only as it possible
it is, but done in.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
The real world.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
According to rm space, so the experiment involved participants utilizing
specialized equipment including sensors and earbuds. On September twenty fourth,
one participant sleeping at home induced lucid dreaming, a state
in which you are aware that you are dreaming. It
is apparently a trainable skill.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I've really tried to train myself out to I can't
do it. Yeah. On the nine of the twenty fourth,
when the rim space participant entered this state, the connected
hardware they were wearing pinged a remote server that generated
a random.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Rimio R E M M yo.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I'm assuming this is a term I've coined. It's saying
it's a dream language that is detectable using sensors, but basic.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The word was sent into the earbuds of the person
that was wearing and then they repeated it in their dream.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
But yeah, huh, that's that's weird.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Weird, right I I don't I like it in the
sense of it'd be cool for us to be able
to like send each other messages and dreams. I don't
like it in the sense that you know they're going
to use that as like, oh, you're dreaming, Yeah, we're
going to advertise to you while you sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
See I'm just caught on like Paprika that too. Yeah,
what's the movie where it's a woman goes into the
mind of a serial killer while he sleeps to like
find out what's wrong with him or something. It's a
real it's a real weird Do you know what I'm
(24:59):
talking about?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Isn't that's very similar to Paprika, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Is it also animated or is it a live action?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, it's live action. The most memorable scene I can
think of is a horse getting sliced up into like
petrie Ish slices.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Okay, I don't remember that, but huh anyway, Yeah, I
don't know. Advertising and dreams seems like a really bad idea.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And also we're gonna end up more exhausted after sleeping
if we're using the whole night watching McDonald's ads.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Uh, real quick, it's called the cell.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's from two thousand.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I type that in and it's like, oh, yeah, there's
only one movie that has that scene. But yeah, sorry,
I uh it's got Jennifer Lopez in it. Huh and
Vince Vaughn. I was not expecting that anyways. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Speaking of things from the early two thousands, there is
a new optical storage breakthrough that could make CDs relevant again.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
This is also from tech Spot, written by Zoo Met
and this breakthrough could usher in.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Ultra high density optical media, but some more research is needed.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So we went from you know, vinyl to eight track cassettes,
CDs and DVDs, well vhs, and then CDs and DVDs
and now it's like it's all just digital, Like it's
all just streaming on the internet. I think it would
(26:41):
be really interesting if we end up going backwards, because
you can store a lot of stuff on CDs. The
interesting thing about this is that basically the defects in.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
The CDs are what makes this possible.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Really yeah, so to read this article to explain it,
because I have read this one. Researchers at the University
of Chicago and Argon National Lab have developed a new
type of optical memory that stores data by transferring light
from rare earth element atoms embedded and a solid material
to nearby quantum defects. They publish their study in a
(27:30):
Physical Review Research. So yeah, basically, the problem that the
researchers aimed to solve is diffraction limit of light in
standard CDs and DVDs. Current optical storage has a hard
cap on data density because each single bit can't be
smaller than the wavelength of the reading writing laser. So basically, yeah,
(27:50):
using quantum defects, which I think is really really fascinating.
So their proposal is that you can bypass that limit
by stuffing the material with rare earth emitters such as
magnesium oxide crystals. It's called wavelength multiplexing, which sounds like
something cool they would do in a movie. Honestly, that
(28:11):
sounds like we're going to attack into the system using
wavelength multiplexing. But yeah, it involves having each emitter use
a slightly different wave wavelength of light. So in that way,
sort of like different radio channels, you have different wavelengths
of light, so you can cram more data into there,
which I think is super cool.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Can I ask you a question, a tech question, sure,
because you're a tech person. Yeah. Sometimes for work. Very specifically,
we've moved from CDs. Okay, so very specifically, we moved
from like hard drives to solid state drives because there's
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like less, it stores a lot more and it doesn't
have to search for the data as much, like it
just kind of goes there if I'm not.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well more so, solid state means since it's not moving,
it's less likely to fail, Like there's less points of failure.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yes, but I was gonna say that's a thing with like, uh,
don't is so I know, I know, like for example,
like video games, they stopped using CDs on a lot
of like Nintendo specifically stopped using CDs, went back to
cartridges because there's like no loading with cartridges as opposed
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to CDs, right, isn't that a Is that a thing?
If I'm not mistaken, No, there's.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Still loading on cartridges.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, because I was sorry, I'm just I think.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
They went back to that just because they've realized they
can make smaller cartridges now because obviously, you know, with
the inmens of the switch and stuff like that. You
can't fit a whole CD in there because its travel
travelable and portable.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I think they went back.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
To cartridges just because it was like, oh cool, we
can store a lot more stuff on here now and yeah, yeah,
rather than having to you know in olden days when
we all had our big book of CDs that we
had to carry around in our car.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Uh so that way you had road trip music.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So this would be less of a like this wouldn't
really be taking us back to the hard drive more
so like stuff around, like moving stuff around from thing
to Thinglet's carry a lot more data on it, correct.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, I think it would be more for that.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And and I don't know how much you know, real
world use we would get out of this, certainly for DVDs. Obviously,
people do still buy DVDs because in this day and age,
streaming has become cable again and no one wants to
pay for all that. So yeah, that'll be interesting because
then in theory you can fit.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
More than one movie on each DVD. You can just
cram a bunch.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
On there, or like entire entire series TV shows and
like one DVD or something. Yeah, or.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
If they decide to remaster like found Fantasy seven where
it had like four discs or whatever, they could finally
fit it all on one disc. Stuff like that. That'd
be kind of cool. I don't think it'll replace some
of the stuff that we're already doing. I mean, everything's
already kind of moving towards the cloud anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
This is just something that'll help us as far as
storage goes.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
As opposed to like, yeah, and also I think partially
it's just scientists do love just being like, I wonder
if we could do this, and then they just kind
of go forward. Sometimes there's not a lot of thought
on why should we do this?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Sometimes it's just can we?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It would have been huge years.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Uh wholly unrelated.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
This just popped up in my feet today from the
x file subreddit. It's the still from the episode where
Molder's talking to this tech dude and it's just him
being like, but there's plenty of kooks out there, data travelers,
electro wizards, and techno anarchists. We need to bring back
the nineties weird terms for like people who are into
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tech like all that, like cyberpunk, like William gibbson, like
just silly silly terminology back when it was the Information
super Highway and you're like, I'm getting on the net,
Like we need to bring that back, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I love our younger listeners like hear that stuff and
like probably think that's all from movies.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
But no, people actually said stuff like.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That, said stuff like that when when we were kids.
I like, I remember the I remember the Information super Highway,
Like I had like adults talk to me like that,
which is like, good lord.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
No, in the early two thousands, especially, like we hadn't
really like it was called the Internet, but like people
didn't really call it the Internet. It was like you're
getting on the web, You're getting on the net, You're
gonna surf the net. We didn't just call it the
internet like we do now for some reason. I don't
really know why that was. I guess that was like
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part of hyping it up.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was like I was, I was a child of
the nineties. I was born in eighty eight, and I
just remember, like I remember, well, you know, it's funny
seeing Matthew Lillard the movie Hackers Hacked the Planet, Hack
the Planet. Yeah, people people really thought that that stuff
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was capable, like even back then, like.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Okay, but some of it was, you know, that's actually
the wild thing. So funny time. I just finished reading
this book. I've been trying to finish reading because I've
only been reading it at work, and every time I
read it, people walk up and are like, what are
you reading and asked me about it, and I'm like, well,
I'm not reading anything now because.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
You're asking me questions. Uh so Kevin Mitnick, do you
know who he is?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I have no clue about it.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So Kevin Mitnick back in the day, was considered the
world's most wanted hacker. He hacked into pretty much anything.
He could not just steal anything. He just wanted to
see the eat in there. He liked the challenge of it.
So like hacking, no white hat would be if you're
doing it for a company to test their defenses, this
(34:42):
would be considered gray hat, where it's not for any
real purpose about.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Delicious, but you're not, like they still probably don't want
you to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, he still went to jail.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I mean, yeah, so this was back in the olden
days of you know, the internet existed, but like you
got to the Internet through phone lines, So a lot
of hacking back in the day was hacking the phone
lines in what was called phone freaking spelled PHR E
(35:14):
A K I n G phone freaking Yeah. So basically
your old internet connections where it ran through the phone lines.
So here's the funny thing about phones that, like a
lot of people don't know not so much anymore. But
back in the day, hitting the buttons on phones it
didn't matter. What actually mattered was the tone, which is
(35:38):
funny because now it's the buttons and the tone doesn't matter.
But back in the day, you didn't actually hit the buttons.
If you could just make those tones, it would dial
for you. And so a lot of one of the
very most you.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Completely threw me off. That sounded like the intro to
your line.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Anyway, No, like genuinely like where you.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Hit the buttons and the tones don't atter.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
No, but like it is the opposite now where we
actually are using the buttons now and the tones are
kind of irrelevant at this point. But back in the day,
basically the phone lines would listen for that tone to
know what numbers you were, what numbers you're dialing. So
a common way that people would, you know, hack phones
to get like free calls. Back in the day is
(36:20):
there was a very specific whistle that came in boxes
of Captain Crunch that mimicked the specific Hurtz tone.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
To make calls.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So one of the most famous phone freakers was this
guy who went by the name of Captain Crunch, which.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Was the cool thing. Everybody had their hacker name back then,
you know, like.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I mean, Kevin Mitnick didn't really, but you know, everybody
had like some weird hacker name because you're not gonna
like be like hacking stuff under your own name, you know,
But I do think that's funny.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
But anyway, this whole book.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Is about how like he would just get in all
this stuff. He would just like you know, talk his
way into things, you know, social engineering, getting past things
by like pretending you know, you belong.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And it's it's a really really good book. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's his whole whole life of hacking up until you know,
he got caught and arrested, and then kind of how
he turned his life around because later on after he
got arrested, once he finally got out, he started actually
doing white hat hacking, where he was doing it for
companies where he had authorization. He would, you know, try
to do pen testing, see if he could get in
(37:30):
and tell him how to shore up their security.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
To be fair financially. That's the way to do it,
too well.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I mean, he wasn't trying to make money off food originally.
He was just I mean an idiot.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Not an idiot in the sense that he was really
smart at what he was doing, but like he didn't
think about the consequences.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
No, no, I get you. That's what I'm saying though,
Like that's the way to do it. It's like if
you're like, I really want to hack this system because
I enjoyed doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, I think that's kind of the thing is he
was kind of one of the first people who kind
of had that job. Like it's not there, there weren't
people doing that. It's just it wasn't very well known
that you could do that. Like pen testing has only
really become popular, I would say in the last like
you know, probably twin tens is when I started hearing
(38:20):
about it, Okay, well, and.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Just I mean, the Internet is so much bigger than
it used to be.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There's so many different ways to get into things now,
and there's so many more you know attack services. There's
so many different ways to Genuinely, if you were looking
at cybersecurity, your weakest length is always going to be
your employees. Genuinely, so much stuff you can get into
(38:50):
just if you find the right person who doesn't second
guess when you call and say you're from you know,
the phone company or whatever, and they're just like, yeah, sure,
I'll get you right in, Like that's going to be
the easiest way in every time.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That's why it's not fun. But that's why all these
companies are making you do cybersecurity training. It's because you
are one hundred percent the weakest link. Yeah, and not
to get on a soapbox about that, but I genuinely
wish people cared about it more because it's not even
your company's data. I'm worried about people's personal data.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Well, and I guess the companies that too.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
They have personal data about people you know, and their
their their task was storing that responsible responsibly. But like,
all it takes is one person being like, sure, I'll
let you in.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, uh, you know who line as tech tips is, yeah, uh,
someone like that's people that know computers, and one of
the people that work there, got the whole company hacked
and got their Facebook stole or their their YouTube channel
stolen for like forty eight hours.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah no, like I said, only it only takes one person.
I mean it could be the intern and once someone
in there, I mean, it's all lateral movements.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
It's a lot easier to get to other places.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, that's the thing that's crazy to me is like
this is a tech guy that got like that, that
accidentally brought down a tech company because.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Something should say that. That makes even more sense because
a lot of people who are in tech they get
cocky about it, honestly, like genuinely trust nothing.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Oh yeah, not to get two x files, but trust
no one.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Well that's apparently what had happened is they had thought
they had gotten some kind of PDF from a client
and they tried to open it and it didn't open,
when really it was.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Like running stuff in the background.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, what's that trojan?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Malware? Trojan? It depends on what specifically was in there.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
And then they were just like okay, I guess that
didn't work and went on with their day and.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Oh no no no no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
If you ever opened anything and you're like, that was weird.
Just reported to it, let them check it out. It's
better that than you know, all of your files getting
ransom weird. Also speak of ransomware, make sure you have
backups of your files so that way, if somebody does
get all your files, you're like, oh, well that sucks,
I've got copies of them.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, it's like it's wild. Yeah, they completely shut down
their Facebook and then or the keep saying their Facebook
shut down their their YouTube channel, which you know how
big a YouTube channel that is. And then it was
full of like a ai Elon Musk shilling, shilling cryptocurrencies. Yeah,
(41:38):
it was like whoa.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Well, that's the thing is like, it don't happen literally anyone.
I mean, there's there's all these hackers now you know,
they're making fake profiles of people. You know, they'll just
clone their account, you know, any way, in any way
to build any level of like credibility so that way
you will click on.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Their links and do what they want you to do.
That is their whole goal.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And there's so many people out there that who are like, well,
my data isn't worth anything. No, your data is worth
a lot, Like it may not be important to you,
but that data is very like because everything, somebody will
buy your data. And also it may feel like that
it's not that important, but like it has so much
about you in that Like, we one need better privacy
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laws because the amount of data that can be collected
about you from online is ridiculous, like you can track everything.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
But not only that, we need privacy laws enforced on
corporations as part of you.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I can only imagine how few corporations actually are safely storing.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
PII.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, well you know something something on subject is I'm
actually looking to switch over to Linux. At some point
soon after Microsoft started talking about they were going to
have and their AI spy on you. I'm sure you
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Oh yeah, that's that's gonna get rolled back.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, they walked that back already, they.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Walk that back.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So for people who aren't in the no, Microsoft basically
unveiled a new thing where the AI was going to
be constantly taking screenshots to better help you, not realizing
that that's incredibly, incredibly creepy and no one wants that. Yeah,
on so many levels, I mean, like, does no one
(43:41):
remember the acropolips, Like when all of the crops, it
didn't actually crop out all the extra data on the sides,
and so all of this like information that had people's
information in it was now visible because it didn't actually
crop properly and kept that metadata of what was past the.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Crop on pictures because I remember that, like you can.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Cybersecurity is such like a big, big thing and it
is very important. You may want to pretend it's not important,
but it is very very very very important.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Like genuinely, the only way that it can.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Be not important in your life is if you stay
off the grid. And if you're listening to this show, sorry,
you're already not off the grid.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
It really is a thing. Because I'm definitely I'm I'm
building my friend a steam machine using an old laptop
because steam os is Linux based, and I want to
learn Linux so that I don't have to rely on
these companies, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, I mean you might as well.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
I genuinely miss how much open source software used to
be out there. It feels like it's getting a lot
like few and far between.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, honestly, yeah, Like Linux is really like learning how
open source that is is what it's like. I'm probably
my brain. I'm like I should probably switch over to that.
You know, it's like that way I know what's going
on my computer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I mean subject Well, all right, bringing this background, did
you know that when Art Bell first announced that he
was retiring from Coast to Coast, they actually considered replacing
him with Kevin Mitnick?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Really?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yep, he was.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
He was on a bunch of episodes actually were not
a bunch, but like more than some guests. He did
a bunch of episodes at Coast to Coast Sam, which
I think is really cool. I don't know, cybersecurity is
cool and interesting, and if we don't learn to adapt
to the new way that things are, we're screwed and
(45:47):
we have to make reliable privacy laws.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Is he he's still alive, isn't he?
Speaker 6 (45:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
He died last year. That's why I was reading his autobiography.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Oh Kevin Mitnick?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah, he on the show.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
But I guess that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I mean, we can attempt to contact him. Yeah, I
don't know that he would appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
But uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
No, genuinely like I think he would have been an
amazing guest. He uh, part of you know, his white
hack pen testing stuff. Later on is he started doing
cybersecurity training for a no before, which a lot of
companies do for their security training. So it's genuinely been
weird since he passed that, not seeing his face once
(46:37):
a year, you know, talking about like here's how you
social engineer and people do this to get into your
company's files. Like it's kind of weird because that's been
what I've seen every year for multiple, multiple years now.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Anyway, speaking of.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Tech, this is from Popular Science. This article is by
Andrew Paul and it is titled There's a real Wayne
Enterprises and it's selling a three million dollar Batmobile. And
just like Batman's own ride, the life sized Tumbler isn't
technically street legal. I always wondered how the batmobile could
(47:17):
be street legal, Like that seems like a bad well yeah, true,
all right, Batman.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
The one real superpower in the world.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, but uh yeah, I can't believe they actually managed
to get Wayne Enterprises licensed. But apparently the company is
dedicated to billionaire appropriate luxury accessories, and it is has
pre orders open on the Tumbler, aka the Dark Knight's
military grade Batmobile. It's made from kevlar carbon fiber and
(47:52):
sheet metal fiberglass. The roughly eleven pound vehicle includes a
five hundred twenty five horsepower six point two Leader L
S three V eight engine, advanced software upgrades, and a
two seat interior for you and the robin in your life.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Whether that whoever your boy wonder?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I like that better.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
I was going to say, you know, whether it's Dick
Grayson or whichever of the robins. There's been so many,
and you're Damien, and all I can think.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Of is the Omen.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
That or I think of some version of sailor moon
tuxedo masks like.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Non.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It might be I can't remember, if it's all versions.
It might be Damien.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I know I know two Damiens. It's a Batman's son
and the Omen kid who I feel like there's a
there's a reason he was there.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
I think it's just in the English.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
The English, well, there you go, tuxed on mask.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
I'm trying to confirm whether it is, because obviously in
the Japanese his name is Memory, Memory, I don't remember
how to pronounce that. Give me an English name. I'm
pretty sure it is Damien. I'm pretty sure this is
just some weird, weird knowledge that I have stored.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I just have this image in my head now, Sailor
Moon being like I did it all for you. Damien.
Uh you know, uh, while you're looking that up, I
just want.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
To say it's Darien, But I'm pretty sure there was
one version that was Damien instead. Oh God, shouldn't be
surprised that they're selling the batmobile for millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Well, you know, I was going to say, look a
look at this thing. You know, I you and I
are both fairly anti billionaire. I think that's fair.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
And it's one of those things of like, there's a
lot about this that I hate as much as I
do like Batman. He's one of the good ones as
far as billionaires go, him and Scrooge McDuck.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
But I don't know. Poison Ivy was still right.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Poison Ivy was on percent right, was still.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Right, and he didn't let her do anything about it.
So points deducted for that one. Get your get your
stuff together there, Batman.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
But the thing that gets me is like, as much
as I hate this, i'd still rather see these than
a bunch of cyber trucks.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know, This is way cooler to
look at than a cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Way cooler.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Cyber truck looks like Lego's gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Cyber truck looks like something that legitimately would be in
a PS one game.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
It looks like Yeah, Lorecroft tomb Raider PS one levels of.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Graphics, levels of unnecessary polygon.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, all right, we are running out of times. Are
gonna speed under these last two articles. These are both
from Unexplained Mysteries dot com. This first one is by
tk Randall and it says scientists bring vampire back from
the dead in a manner of speaking, No, they did
not bring a vampire back to life. What they did
(51:16):
was they got the face of a woman thought to
be a vampire who was buried four hundred years ago,
has been reconstructed by experts, so not brought back to life.
They made a three D model of what they think
this supposed vampire looks like.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
And they do look as joyful as you'd expect someone
to look from the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
To be fair, yes, four centuries ago the people of Pieno,
North Poland were so terrified that the body of a
woman would rise again from her grave that they went
to great links to ensure that when they buried her
on the ground, she was definitely going to stay there.
When her remains were unearthed by scientists from Nicholas Copernicus
University in Poland back in twenty twenty two, they discovered
(51:55):
that she had been entombed with a shackle around her
foot in an ironsickle place to cross her neck. Basically
after examining they would have, they realized she would have
been only twenty years old when she died, and that
she had suffered from a condition brought about She had
suffered from a condition that had brought about various symtoms,
including mental health problems, which may have contributed to the belief.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
That she was a vampire.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
So yeah, through forensic techniques, they've basically made it so
they can look at what she looks like now, since
kind of hard to tell from just a skeleton.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yes, maybe potential future sneak peak of an episode, But
watched a video recently on vampire burials and they are
very fascinating, so maybe we can revisit this article here
soon ish.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
There's a really good quote at the end of this
from archaeologist Oscar Nilssen, and it says it's really ironic
in a way. These people burying her. They did everything
they could in order to prevent her from coming back
from the dead. We have done everything we can in
order to bring her back to life. They have named
her Zeussia Zosia.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Zeisia.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
So I thought that was interesting and.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Speaking of interesting, since we were doing our speed run.
Ghost may die after a lifespan of one hundred years,
researchers claim.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
This one's also from tk Rando at on explained Mysteries
dot com.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yes, and if my laptop will work correctly so. Brian
sterling Vede maintains that intelligent paranormal entities may actually have
a limited lifespan.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Does this ghost name why we don't see dinosaur ghos?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Maybe you know it would make sense? Uh? Do ghost
live forever? While it seems strange to suggest that something
thought of as a disembodied spirit of a dead person
can itself die after a certain amount of time, such
a possibility has been gaining traction in recent years among
some paranormal researchers. One of these is Brian star Vede,
(54:00):
a veteran enthusiast of all things supernatural who has spent
a considerable amount of time analyzing data collection from various
paranormal investigations.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Sounds like we wanted to talk to Brian.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
And we do. According to his findings, sightings a famous
ghostly location of the world occurring less and less frequently,
especially those that have been around for one hundred years
or more. When with all, when all the data has considered,
it was quite a shock to think that many of
once famous ghosts could literally be dying. He said, you know,
just all over again, you know, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Man, you know, how much would it suck to die
and then die as a ghost.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
And also be like, what's killing them? Is it like
that they do it?
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Or is it just like they're so sick of watching
us do this stupid stuff that they're just like, you
know what, forget my unfinished business.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
I would assume some kind of energy dispersion, if anything.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Yeah, I mean, I guess energy can't.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Well, it's you know, all I can really think of is.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
The physics, which is, uh, you.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Know, who wants to live forever when love can.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Diem Okay, yeah, I'm thinking physics here because there's the
whole you know, an object emotion wants to stay in motion,
an object of rest wants to stay at rest, and
energy can neither be created nor destroyed, so your energy
can only be converted to a different type of energy.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
So well, you know those lyrics, they're from this theme
song for the movie Highlander. And you know, for those
mister Crabs fans out there, Clancy Brown he was in
Highlander and he had some very insightful stuff to say
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about this subject. Would you like to hear it?
Speaker 7 (55:57):
Sure, it's better to burn out the the fade away.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
I also just realized that in the article it actually
says in here in simple terms, the second law of
thermodynamics tells us that energy tends to disperse into grade
over time. I would argue that our finding show ghosts
do conform to the second law of thermodynamics as they
appear to run out of energy.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Ah, so there goes your idea for a ghost powered
perpetual emotion machine.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Darn I cross that one offul list. Yeah, we should
reach out to Brian because I want to hear his
theories on this.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, because dye second time sounds awful, Dying the first
time sounds not that great.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
I mean, it's inevitable.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Or you know, maybe it's peaceful though.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Well, so it's the last the thing like, I'm not
really afraid of death so much as I am afraid
of it being painful.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, you know, it might just be like an energy dispersal.
You know, you can tell your flames growing dim and
you know, then you go into Yeah, you've had time
to make your peace and remember energy cannot be destroyed,
just changed.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
And uh, speaking of going into the light and dispersing
your energy into the universe, it is that time of
night where we need to sign off.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
So from strange shock here, good night and good luck.
Speaker 6 (57:47):
Don't take quit me at night wrong. I'm great, don't
think me wild.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
I'm may and mild weakness is my feature. Please have
a little city and listen to my disease. I'm not
the great delied to whole heal heals in Dia city.
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I'm the golst of a troop that is famed in heory.
I'm the ghost of a bunt that we're only out
for glory, glory, glory, hellier money never caught immiy novelty.
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I'm the ghost that never was. On salary day, to
pray that I'd make my appearing, but railroad payers and
empty cares they called any interpeering. No, they are not all.
Speaker 6 (59:13):
Honey, and don't think me too.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
Funny when I tell you that I couldn't even paid
them with dates money. I'm the gold of a truth
that defended him Kaory. I'm the ghost of a bond
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that were only out for glory, glory, glory hallalal money
never taught him me novelty. I'm the goost that never was.
I'm the goal but true that deframed e b R.
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I'm the coast of a bun that we're only out
for glory, glory, glory, hall relluial money. Never call immy noblety.
I'm the coast that never walked.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Fact on sixteen sixty north Side, ninety tw
Good evening and welcome to the hour dedicated to talk
about things strange, weird, and paranormal. You're listening to Strange Talk,
broadcasting on sixteen sixty AM in Northside ninety one point
seven FMHG two WVXU and Cincinnati. We're also streaming at
Radio ortterfact dot com around the entire planet Earth. The
intro track to this episode, in most of our episodes,
is the Strange Talk intro by Star Silk and I'm
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your host, Alex.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And Don your host Ranger.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, here we go. We've got some new backing tracks here,
so trying to learn where that balance is versus us talking.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's fun. We like to keep things, you know, changing
here all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yep, that's always trying to keep keep the mood up
or down.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Rather, we're all around.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean we just we just came off of Halloween
last week, which was a ton of fun.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Did all of your Halloween wishes end up coming true?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes? Yes they did. How about yours?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean, I'm dressed like a bear right now, so
we're still riding that Halloween trade.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I guess keeping it fair all I like it.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I have to say.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
All of my Halloween dreams came true, including the ones
that I did not know were a dream. I was
running karaoke on Halloween night and one of our regulars
came dressed as a sexy Monopoly Man and sang ABBA's Money, Money, Money,
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and it is one of the best things I've ever
seen in my life of just sexy Monopoly man thrown
around Monopoly money into the masses.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It was beautiful. I have no notes.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I don't know that Halloween will ever be able to
be like topped By That honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Fair enough, but uh yeah, I had a hole six
trick or treaters stop by.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We didn't get any, and I kind of didn't think
we would get any. But I don't know why I
said we the neighborhood that I moved to a few
months back. I've never seen a single child in this neighborhood,
so I don't know why I was expecting there to
be some trigger treaters. It's just like everybody just has dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Live in a millennial neighborhood I see.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't even know, honestly, it seems to be a
lot more gen x honestly, but it's just just dogs,
dogs everywhere, and I'm fine with that. I got to
pet four.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Dogs Friday night.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Anyway. I could talk about dogs for hours.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So we're gonna we're gonna move on from that because
speaking of dogs.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Welcome to straight straight talk, straight, no strays.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We want all dogs to have homes where they get pet.
The torrid meteor shower is this week. It will peak
November fifth through the twelfth will be the best time
to look up for those. The tourreds are the ones
that are like the brighton coloral. They look like shooting
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stars passing by. They usually show up around this time
in year, middle of October, kind of middle of November.
But there will be roughly eight to twelve meteors per hour.
So nice consistent meteor shower.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Uh that's almost less more than one a minute, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Uh something like that. Yeah, I can't do math, not
right now, but not right now is my brain's just gone,
So math math goes bye bye. As soon as the
brain goes bye bye, you can probably also hear it.
My voice has been in and out for the last
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two weeks. Uh, so weather changes.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
How long ago I was scar Fest? That was uh
scare Fest three weeks ago now.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Was scarfast in September October. I don't remember one. Two,
it was three weeks ago. It was three weeks ago.
But the weather's been changing back and forth since then.
Like seriously, it's been like thirty degrees at night and
then eighties agree during eighty degrees during the day, and
my whole body is just like giving up. Is like
I don't know what temperature it is. I don't have
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a voice. It just you know, it is what it is.
But maybe the toward meteor shower will fix all that.
I don't know why I would, but something something When
you wish upon a star. Uh, speaking of stars, do
you want to tell us a little bit about the
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Sun and it's solar maximum?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I certainly would. So NASA has announced that the Sun
has reached a solar maximum.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And what is solar maximum?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Uh? That's a good question. This it's a repeating crescendo
of solar activity that often comes with increased solar flares
through to form. It seems that there are another flare
every few days. Rapid fire solar flares have been lighting
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up the night sky with the Aurora borealis as far
south as Florida, and Puerto Rico. Since last year, the
solar max has projected to last well into the second
half of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So no wonder.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You know, I haven't been having a voice, and everything's
been pure chaos. The Sun's just like, hey, guys, guess
what I'm gonna do A cool trick.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Don't watch me do a flip?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, I like.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
This sun just learned how to alie for the first time.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's funny that you mentioned that, because this is just
part of the natural cycle that the Sun does. It
just goes between low and high activity, much like most
things in life. Right now, we're in solar cycle twenty five,
which is the twenty fifth observed solar cycles, and signed
just started recording them, and roughly every eleven years, at
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the peak of the solar cycle, the Sun's magnetic poles flip,
so it is quite literally doing a flip.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, it's magnetic poles are not the toll Sun. That'd
be wild, though, I.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Mean, could we really tell if it was, though, I mean,
it is just a big ball offire.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I mean I had the scientists to be able to
just check that out, I think, But yeah, yeah, with
it doing the Sun does that about every eleven years.
But like, imagine that happening on Earth. That would mess
us up so bad. It'd be pure chaos. Birds wouldn't
know where to go.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Be you know, all your magnets would be used or
not magnets. Compasses would be useless.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, no, that you could still use them, that it
would just take you the opposite as long as you
know to read it backwards.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think, right, yeah, but most people can't read compasses.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I don't think, well, probably not anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I always bring a compass with me when I go
hiking because you never know if your phone's gonna like
lose service or power and then you're stuck in the woods.
So I always bring a paper map and compass. I
wanted to practice doing that, because you never know when
you're a need to.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I had a I used to live in a house
that face directly north, and I could kind of gauge
wherever I was in the nearby town because I knew
which way my house faced. I could always gauge which
way was north. And I'm very sad I lost that
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ability because that was the very cool ability to just
be able to geographically know which way was north, wherever you.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Were, Yeah, that would be very helpful.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Uh, I was gonna say, do you I wonder if
this stuff affects us like the full moon does.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I would imagine so, but not in the same way.
I mean, it definitely makes us more cranky because it's hot,
I mean straight.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Out instead of getting crazy like with full moons, we
just get sad. But it feels like that wouldn't be
something that some would do. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Soun's not my business. I'm not a creature of the
daytime in the slightest. That article, by the way, is
by Jessica Hall from extreamtech dot com and was supposed.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
To on October twenty sixth, twenty four.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes, and moving on to another you know, giant red
mass in the sky. This is also from Extreme Extreme
Tech from one of my favorite writers, Ryan Whitwam, solely
because his last name is so difficult to say, but yeah,
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NASA is proposing searching for life in Martian meltwater. Mars's
dusty ice deposits could imitate a known reservoir of life
on Earth. So from what we know, about one fifth
of Mars was once underwater, so far obviously we have
not found any you know, little green men on Mars
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or anything like that, but that doesn't mean we're gonna
stop looking. The NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory JPL is focusing
on a potential microcosm of life on Mars. The new
study proposes that pockets of meltwater hiding within ice deposits
could provide a home for microbial life, much as similar
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environments do on Earth. Mars is a famously icy planet.
It's the only planet in the Solar System besides Earth
with ice caps. However, most of the ice we can
see on Mars's frozen carbon dioxide from its thin atmosphere.
There is some water ice, though, and that's what the
researchers behind the new study are modeling. So we might find,
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you know, our first life on Mars, possibly in this water,
which could also possibly prove or disprove the theory that.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Octopus actually came from Mars. That is a theory that
I've heard.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So wouldn't it be wild if they end up just like, oh,
there's just an octopus in this water here.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, that would I mean, that would be pretty cool, though, Marsians.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Would be pretty cool, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What what would what would we call a Martian octopus.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think it's still just be an octopus because at
that point they would have come from Mars, so we'd
just be like, well, how did you.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Little guys get here? And the answer.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I got nothing? No, I got nothing. I feel like
there's gonna be like a really clever name, but the isn't.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I just it's not. It's not coming to me right now.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't know. I feel like I feel like science
names are either very clever or just like the most
unoriginal thing you could have made.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well we should.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
We should let bird researchers name it, because they come
up with the most hilarious names.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I know. But yeah, there's a spider named after David Bowie,
and a gene named after Sonic the Hedgehog, and a
gene that destroys that gene named after doctor robot Nick.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I mean, why not, honestly, But yeah, the meltwater.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
One of the researchers, Phil Christensen from Arizona State University,
likened it to a greenhouse inside of an icy cage.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So basically it's just like this.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Little warmer, moist spot where life can just kind of thrive.
I'm thinking of it more like a Petri dish. But
I'm not a researcher, and I'd assume he knows more
than I do. I would really help.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So No, I know, I know there is life on Mars.
It's just what primordial life isn't it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, they they haven't really confirmed that yet.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I thought they'd I thought they'd confirmed that there was.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
A They seen signs that there might be something. But
I mean, ah, we we struggle. But a man in
Missouri saw what might be a sign of life in
the skies. If you want to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yes, Uh, the Missouri man shares a video of unusual
sighting in the sky. Missouri man isn't sure what he
saw in the sky a few years ago, but he's
not done searching. Uh let's see the app developer maybe Halloween,
but this nxtions like this and others. Uh in Kansas City, Missouri. Uh,
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it's a cube, you hear the guys say on the video.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah you might've just heard me pressing play on the
video because I wanted to look at it. And uh, yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Is a cube. That's a big old rainbow cube.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's a cube with life.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That is a spinning rainbow cube. Like I've never seen
something move like that that is actually wild.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Say, I haven't got to the cube yet.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I just have.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
A Kansas City TV personnel of going, it's Halloween. Oh
that is that is definitely a cube.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's definitely a rainbow cube, like spinning through the air
like it looks like a video game glitch. Honestly, that's
why I know what?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know what? It's spinning in rhythm with don't you what?
You turn me right round, right round?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Like my first thought was spooky, scary skeletons, because it's
still Halloween in my heart. This article is coming from
KMBC News nine ABC, which is a mouthful, but you know,
thank you Martin Augustine. This was updated on Halloween at
ten thirty four pm. And yeah, that's a real weird video.
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I guess the video was from three years ago, but
he's still looking for answers, and clearly this news station
was looking for something weird to talk about on Halloween.
But the app that they mentioned is called Enigma. It
launched in May of last year apparently, and it makes
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it easy to upload videos and provide other information regarding
unexplained objects in the sky. So that's why they're hoping
to find more information on these sightings. Basically, I'm picturing
this as like I'm picturing this as basically Facebook Mobile
(17:33):
for UFO sightings, or like maybe more like Tender for
UFO sightings, Like tell me more about this.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
If anybody can use tender.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
UFO people, I probably you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
And I have both met our fair share of UFO people.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, but yeah, no, I don't know. I think it's
cool that they're making an app for that. There's literally
not for everything these days, and maybe we'll get an
answer on this wild rotating cube through the sky man, you.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Know, honestly, like all jokes aside that.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Is no, that's a wild video, bizarre thing.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Like yeah again, Justin Johnson was the one who posted that,
And there's a quoverman here that says we're on the
precipice of finding out something that can change Humandy forever.
This is all very exciting to me, and I feel
that I.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I make a lot of jokes, but it's one of
those things where, like, you know, most UFO footage we see,
I'm assuming you've seen as about as much as I have, Alex.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Oh, Yeah, I've seen a lot of them that are
very clearly just like a plane.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, a plane, or like just oh, that's clearly something right.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
To be fair, most of them are like top secret
military planes. That's like, okay, yeah, I see why you
would think that's a UFO.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But this thing is like legitimately interesting looking.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I make jokes, but yeah, I don't have an explanation
for that one.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's definitely not a Sandhill crane.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
The fact that it's just a cube is what's messing
me up.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I do kind of like the idea of like somewhere
far away, some kind of explosion happened, just a big
freight cube just got.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And now we're like, wow, look at that up in
the sky, and it's just it's just somebody's like it's
like the cargo thing. It's like someone's lunch box just
flying through the air at astronomical speeds. Or maybe on
a different planet, disco balls are cubes and they're just
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like oh party. Uh have I ever told you about
the time that I that I really thought that I
was seeing like a UFO descending.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I feel like I've heard this, but tell me again.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So I have had like actual UFO settings, but uh,
right around the time actually that we started doing strange talk.
I was listening to a lot of coast to coast
am and UH. At the time, I was working on
this gigantic art project. It was like me and a
bunch of friends. We were working on in it in
UH a friend of mine's backyard, And I look up
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and I see these three lights rotating around each other
like in a triangle formation, like they're they're stuck rotating
around each other like that. And I'm seeing this in
the sky, and like I said, I'm listening to a
lot of coast coasts. So my first thought I was like,
am I like actually seeing like a like a really
like very clear U foe right now? And so like
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I start googling on the internet, like looking up trying
to find like, okay, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Like what could possibly explain this? But I wasn't like
finding anything.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So I like run out to the front of the building,
like genuinely just in awe where I'm just like are
they landing right now? Like what do I do? Do
I go meet them? Do I go talk to them?
Like what do I do in this situation? Do I
run for my life? And around then one of my
friends finally found that there was actually a fire lantern
festival going on in town. But it was just like
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it was so unexplainable to me in that moment because
I hadn't been able to find anything and I'd never
seen something move like that that I was like, oh
my gosh, it's happening, like they're here, they're landing right now.
What do I do? And I never decided on an answer.
I was just like WHOA. I was just so in
AWE just just struck it. So that's told me that
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I need to get my plan together so I know
what to do if I for real see the aliens descend.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
So yeah, honestly, it's one of those like I had
a I think we talked about this before. I had
a minor UFO experience that I attribute to maybe have
even just been like a dream as a child.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But it's I've definitely seen things that I mean, like,
I'm pretty sure was a UFO. I like, to this day,
I still a minute to find an explanation for it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It is interesting funny you mentioned dreams though, because researchers
have achieved the first successful communication between dreaming individuals, so
commercializing dreams could be a nightmare, because you know that's
where they're gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
This article is.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
From tech Spot, written by Sean Knight, and basically, researchers
at a California based sleep startup claim it's possible to
communicate with others while dreaming, not only as it possible
it is, but done in.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
The real world.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
According to rm space, so the experiment involved participants utilizing
specialized equipment including sensors and earbuds. On September twenty fourth,
one participant sleeping at home induced lucid dreaming, a state
in which you are aware that you are dreaming. It
is apparently a trainable skill.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I've really tried to train myself out to I can't
do it. Yeah. On the nine of the twenty fourth,
when the rim space participant entered this state, the connected
hardware they were wearing pinged a remote server that generated
a random.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Rimio R E M M yo.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I'm assuming this is a term I've coined. It's saying
it's a dream language that is detectable using sensors, but basic.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The word was sent into the earbuds of the person
that was wearing and then they repeated it in their dream.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
But yeah, huh, that's that's weird.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Weird, right I I don't I like it in the
sense of it'd be cool for us to be able
to like send each other messages and dreams. I don't
like it in the sense that you know they're going
to use that as like, oh, you're dreaming, Yeah, we're
going to advertise to you while you sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
See I'm just caught on like Paprika that too. Yeah,
what's the movie where it's a woman goes into the
mind of a serial killer while he sleeps to like
find out what's wrong with him or something. It's a
real it's a real weird Do you know what I'm
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talking about?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Isn't that's very similar to Paprika, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Is it also animated or is it a live action?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, it's live action. The most memorable scene I can
think of is a horse getting sliced up into like
petrie Ish slices.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Okay, I don't remember that, but huh anyway, Yeah, I
don't know. Advertising and dreams seems like a really bad idea.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And also we're gonna end up more exhausted after sleeping
if we're using the whole night watching McDonald's ads.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Uh, real quick, it's called the cell.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's from two thousand.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I type that in and it's like, oh, yeah, there's
only one movie that has that scene. But yeah, sorry,
I uh it's got Jennifer Lopez in it. Huh and
Vince Vaughn. I was not expecting that anyways. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Speaking of things from the early two thousands, there is
a new optical storage breakthrough that could make CDs relevant again.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
This is also from tech Spot, written by Zoo Met
and this breakthrough could usher in.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Ultra high density optical media, but some more research is needed.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So we went from you know, vinyl to eight track cassettes,
CDs and DVDs, well vhs, and then CDs and DVDs
and now it's like it's all just digital, Like it's
all just streaming on the internet. I think it would
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be really interesting if we end up going backwards, because
you can store a lot of stuff on CDs. The
interesting thing about this is that basically the defects in.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
The CDs are what makes this possible.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Really yeah, so to read this article to explain it,
because I have read this one. Researchers at the University
of Chicago and Argon National Lab have developed a new
type of optical memory that stores data by transferring light
from rare earth element atoms embedded and a solid material
to nearby quantum defects. They publish their study in a
(27:30):
Physical Review Research. So yeah, basically, the problem that the
researchers aimed to solve is diffraction limit of light in
standard CDs and DVDs. Current optical storage has a hard
cap on data density because each single bit can't be
smaller than the wavelength of the reading writing laser. So basically, yeah,
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using quantum defects, which I think is really really fascinating.
So their proposal is that you can bypass that limit
by stuffing the material with rare earth emitters such as
magnesium oxide crystals. It's called wavelength multiplexing, which sounds like
something cool they would do in a movie. Honestly, that
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sounds like we're going to attack into the system using
wavelength multiplexing. But yeah, it involves having each emitter use
a slightly different wave wavelength of light. So in that way,
sort of like different radio channels, you have different wavelengths
of light, so you can cram more data into there,
which I think is super cool.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Can I ask you a question, a tech question, sure,
because you're a tech person. Yeah. Sometimes for work. Very specifically,
we've moved from CDs. Okay, so very specifically, we moved
from like hard drives to solid state drives because there's
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like less, it stores a lot more and it doesn't
have to search for the data as much, like it
just kind of goes there if I'm not.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well more so, solid state means since it's not moving,
it's less likely to fail, Like there's less points of failure.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yes, but I was gonna say that's a thing with like, uh,
don't is so I know, I know, like for example,
like video games, they stopped using CDs on a lot
of like Nintendo specifically stopped using CDs, went back to
cartridges because there's like no loading with cartridges as opposed
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to CDs, right, isn't that a Is that a thing?
If I'm not mistaken, No, there's.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Still loading on cartridges.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, because I was sorry, I'm just I think.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
They went back to that just because they've realized they
can make smaller cartridges now because obviously, you know, with
the inmens of the switch and stuff like that. You
can't fit a whole CD in there because its travel
travelable and portable.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I think they went back.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
To cartridges just because it was like, oh cool, we
can store a lot more stuff on here now and yeah, yeah,
rather than having to you know in olden days when
we all had our big book of CDs that we
had to carry around in our car.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Uh so that way you had road trip music.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So this would be less of a like this wouldn't
really be taking us back to the hard drive more
so like stuff around, like moving stuff around from thing
to Thinglet's carry a lot more data on it, correct.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, I think it would be more for that.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And and I don't know how much you know, real
world use we would get out of this, certainly for DVDs. Obviously,
people do still buy DVDs because in this day and age,
streaming has become cable again and no one wants to
pay for all that. So yeah, that'll be interesting because
then in theory you can fit.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
More than one movie on each DVD. You can just
cram a bunch.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
On there, or like entire entire series TV shows and
like one DVD or something. Yeah, or.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
If they decide to remaster like found Fantasy seven where
it had like four discs or whatever, they could finally
fit it all on one disc. Stuff like that. That'd
be kind of cool. I don't think it'll replace some
of the stuff that we're already doing. I mean, everything's
already kind of moving towards the cloud anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
This is just something that'll help us as far as
storage goes.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
As opposed to like, yeah, and also I think partially
it's just scientists do love just being like, I wonder
if we could do this, and then they just kind
of go forward. Sometimes there's not a lot of thought
on why should we do this?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Sometimes it's just can we?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It would have been huge years.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Uh wholly unrelated.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
This just popped up in my feet today from the
x file subreddit. It's the still from the episode where
Molder's talking to this tech dude and it's just him
being like, but there's plenty of kooks out there, data travelers,
electro wizards, and techno anarchists. We need to bring back
the nineties weird terms for like people who are into
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tech like all that, like cyberpunk, like William gibbson, like
just silly silly terminology back when it was the Information
super Highway and you're like, I'm getting on the net,
Like we need to bring that back, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I love our younger listeners like hear that stuff and
like probably think that's all from movies.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
But no, people actually said stuff like.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That, said stuff like that when when we were kids.
I like, I remember the I remember the Information super Highway,
Like I had like adults talk to me like that,
which is like, good lord.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
No, in the early two thousands, especially, like we hadn't
really like it was called the Internet, but like people
didn't really call it the Internet. It was like you're
getting on the web, You're getting on the net, You're
gonna surf the net. We didn't just call it the
internet like we do now for some reason. I don't
really know why that was. I guess that was like
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part of hyping it up.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was like I was, I was a child of
the nineties. I was born in eighty eight, and I
just remember, like I remember, well, you know, it's funny
seeing Matthew Lillard the movie Hackers Hacked the Planet, Hack
the Planet. Yeah, people people really thought that that stuff
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was capable, like even back then, like.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Okay, but some of it was, you know, that's actually
the wild thing. So funny time. I just finished reading
this book. I've been trying to finish reading because I've
only been reading it at work, and every time I
read it, people walk up and are like, what are
you reading and asked me about it, and I'm like, well,
I'm not reading anything now because.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
You're asking me questions. Uh so Kevin Mitnick, do you
know who he is?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I have no clue about it.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So Kevin Mitnick back in the day, was considered the
world's most wanted hacker. He hacked into pretty much anything.
He could not just steal anything. He just wanted to
see the eat in there. He liked the challenge of it.
So like hacking, no white hat would be if you're
doing it for a company to test their defenses, this
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would be considered gray hat, where it's not for any
real purpose about.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Delicious, but you're not, like they still probably don't want
you to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, he still went to jail.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I mean, yeah, so this was back in the olden
days of you know, the internet existed, but like you
got to the Internet through phone lines, So a lot
of hacking back in the day was hacking the phone
lines in what was called phone freaking spelled PHR E
(35:14):
A K I n G phone freaking Yeah. So basically
your old internet connections where it ran through the phone lines.
So here's the funny thing about phones that, like a
lot of people don't know not so much anymore. But
back in the day, hitting the buttons on phones it
didn't matter. What actually mattered was the tone, which is
(35:38):
funny because now it's the buttons and the tone doesn't matter.
But back in the day, you didn't actually hit the buttons.
If you could just make those tones, it would dial
for you. And so a lot of one of the
very most you.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Completely threw me off. That sounded like the intro to
your line.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Anyway, No, like genuinely like where you.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Hit the buttons and the tones don't atter.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
No, but like it is the opposite now where we
actually are using the buttons now and the tones are
kind of irrelevant at this point. But back in the day,
basically the phone lines would listen for that tone to
know what numbers you were, what numbers you're dialing. So
a common way that people would, you know, hack phones
to get like free calls. Back in the day is
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there was a very specific whistle that came in boxes
of Captain Crunch that mimicked the specific Hurtz tone.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
To make calls.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So one of the most famous phone freakers was this
guy who went by the name of Captain Crunch, which.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Was the cool thing. Everybody had their hacker name back then,
you know, like.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I mean, Kevin Mitnick didn't really, but you know, everybody
had like some weird hacker name because you're not gonna
like be like hacking stuff under your own name, you know,
But I do think that's funny.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
But anyway, this whole book.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Is about how like he would just get in all
this stuff. He would just like you know, talk his
way into things, you know, social engineering, getting past things
by like pretending you know, you belong.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And it's it's a really really good book. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's his whole whole life of hacking up until you know,
he got caught and arrested, and then kind of how
he turned his life around because later on after he
got arrested, once he finally got out, he started actually
doing white hat hacking, where he was doing it for
companies where he had authorization. He would, you know, try
to do pen testing, see if he could get in
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and tell him how to shore up their security.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
To be fair financially. That's the way to do it,
too well.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I mean, he wasn't trying to make money off food originally.
He was just I mean an idiot.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Not an idiot in the sense that he was really
smart at what he was doing, but like he didn't
think about the consequences.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
No, no, I get you. That's what I'm saying though,
Like that's the way to do it. It's like if
you're like, I really want to hack this system because
I enjoyed doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, I think that's kind of the thing is he
was kind of one of the first people who kind
of had that job. Like it's not there, there weren't
people doing that. It's just it wasn't very well known
that you could do that. Like pen testing has only
really become popular, I would say in the last like
you know, probably twin tens is when I started hearing
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about it, Okay, well, and.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Just I mean, the Internet is so much bigger than
it used to be.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
There's so many different ways to get into things now,
and there's so many more you know attack services. There's
so many different ways to Genuinely, if you were looking
at cybersecurity, your weakest length is always going to be
your employees. Genuinely, so much stuff you can get into
(38:50):
just if you find the right person who doesn't second
guess when you call and say you're from you know,
the phone company or whatever, and they're just like, yeah, sure,
I'll get you right in, Like that's going to be
the easiest way in every time.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That's why it's not fun. But that's why all these
companies are making you do cybersecurity training. It's because you
are one hundred percent the weakest link. Yeah, and not
to get on a soapbox about that, but I genuinely
wish people cared about it more because it's not even
your company's data. I'm worried about people's personal data.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Well, and I guess the companies that too.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
They have personal data about people you know, and their
their their task was storing that responsible responsibly. But like,
all it takes is one person being like, sure, I'll
let you in.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, uh, you know who line as tech tips is, yeah, uh,
someone like that's people that know computers, and one of
the people that work there, got the whole company hacked
and got their Facebook stole or their their YouTube channel
stolen for like forty eight hours.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah no, like I said, only it only takes one person.
I mean it could be the intern and once someone
in there, I mean, it's all lateral movements.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
It's a lot easier to get to other places.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, that's the thing that's crazy to me is like
this is a tech guy that got like that, that
accidentally brought down a tech company because.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Something should say that. That makes even more sense because
a lot of people who are in tech they get
cocky about it, honestly, like genuinely trust nothing.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Oh yeah, not to get two x files, but trust
no one.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Well that's apparently what had happened is they had thought
they had gotten some kind of PDF from a client
and they tried to open it and it didn't open,
when really it was.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Like running stuff in the background.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, what's that trojan?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Malware? Trojan? It depends on what specifically was in there.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
And then they were just like okay, I guess that
didn't work and went on with their day and.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Oh no no no no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
If you ever opened anything and you're like, that was weird.
Just reported to it, let them check it out. It's
better that than you know, all of your files getting
ransom weird. Also speak of ransomware, make sure you have
backups of your files so that way, if somebody does
get all your files, you're like, oh, well that sucks,
I've got copies of them.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, it's like it's wild. Yeah, they completely shut down
their Facebook and then or the keep saying their Facebook
shut down their their YouTube channel, which you know how
big a YouTube channel that is. And then it was
full of like a ai Elon Musk shilling, shilling cryptocurrencies. Yeah,
(41:38):
it was like whoa.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Well, that's the thing is like, it don't happen literally anyone.
I mean, there's there's all these hackers now you know,
they're making fake profiles of people. You know, they'll just
clone their account, you know, any way, in any way
to build any level of like credibility so that way
you will click on.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Their links and do what they want you to do.
That is their whole goal.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And there's so many people out there that who are like, well,
my data isn't worth anything. No, your data is worth
a lot, Like it may not be important to you,
but that data is very like because everything, somebody will
buy your data. And also it may feel like that
it's not that important, but like it has so much
about you in that Like, we one need better privacy
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laws because the amount of data that can be collected
about you from online is ridiculous, like you can track everything.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
But not only that, we need privacy laws enforced on
corporations as part of you.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I can only imagine how few corporations actually are safely storing.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
PII.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, well you know something something on subject is I'm
actually looking to switch over to Linux. At some point
soon after Microsoft started talking about they were going to
have and their AI spy on you. I'm sure you
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Oh yeah, that's that's gonna get rolled back.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, they walked that back already, they.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Walk that back.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So for people who aren't in the no, Microsoft basically
unveiled a new thing where the AI was going to
be constantly taking screenshots to better help you, not realizing
that that's incredibly, incredibly creepy and no one wants that. Yeah,
on so many levels, I mean, like, does no one
(43:41):
remember the acropolips, Like when all of the crops, it
didn't actually crop out all the extra data on the sides,
and so all of this like information that had people's
information in it was now visible because it didn't actually
crop properly and kept that metadata of what was past the.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Crop on pictures because I remember that, like you can.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Cybersecurity is such like a big, big thing and it
is very important. You may want to pretend it's not important,
but it is very very very very important.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Like genuinely, the only way that it can.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Be not important in your life is if you stay
off the grid. And if you're listening to this show, sorry,
you're already not off the grid.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
It really is a thing. Because I'm definitely I'm I'm
building my friend a steam machine using an old laptop
because steam os is Linux based, and I want to
learn Linux so that I don't have to rely on
these companies, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, I mean you might as well.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
I genuinely miss how much open source software used to
be out there. It feels like it's getting a lot
like few and far between.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, honestly, yeah, Like Linux is really like learning how
open source that is is what it's like. I'm probably
my brain. I'm like I should probably switch over to that.
You know, it's like that way I know what's going
on my computer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I mean subject Well, all right, bringing this background, did
you know that when Art Bell first announced that he
was retiring from Coast to Coast, they actually considered replacing
him with Kevin Mitnick?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Really?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yep, he was.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
He was on a bunch of episodes actually were not
a bunch, but like more than some guests. He did
a bunch of episodes at Coast to Coast Sam, which
I think is really cool. I don't know, cybersecurity is
cool and interesting, and if we don't learn to adapt
to the new way that things are, we're screwed and
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we have to make reliable privacy laws.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Is he he's still alive, isn't he?
Speaker 6 (45:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
He died last year. That's why I was reading his autobiography.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Oh Kevin Mitnick?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah, he on the show.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
But I guess that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I mean, we can attempt to contact him. Yeah, I
don't know that he would appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
But uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
No, genuinely like I think he would have been an
amazing guest. He uh, part of you know, his white
hack pen testing stuff. Later on is he started doing
cybersecurity training for a no before, which a lot of
companies do for their security training. So it's genuinely been
weird since he passed that, not seeing his face once
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a year, you know, talking about like here's how you
social engineer and people do this to get into your
company's files. Like it's kind of weird because that's been
what I've seen every year for multiple, multiple years now.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Anyway, speaking of.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Tech, this is from Popular Science. This article is by
Andrew Paul and it is titled There's a real Wayne
Enterprises and it's selling a three million dollar Batmobile. And
just like Batman's own ride, the life sized Tumbler isn't
technically street legal. I always wondered how the batmobile could
(47:17):
be street legal, Like that seems like a bad well yeah, true,
all right, Batman.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
The one real superpower in the world.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, but uh yeah, I can't believe they actually managed
to get Wayne Enterprises licensed. But apparently the company is
dedicated to billionaire appropriate luxury accessories, and it is has
pre orders open on the Tumbler, aka the Dark Knight's
military grade Batmobile. It's made from kevlar carbon fiber and
(47:52):
sheet metal fiberglass. The roughly eleven pound vehicle includes a
five hundred twenty five horsepower six point two Leader L
S three V eight engine, advanced software upgrades, and a
two seat interior for you and the robin in your life.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Whether that whoever your boy wonder?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I like that better.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
I was going to say, you know, whether it's Dick
Grayson or whichever of the robins. There's been so many,
and you're Damien, and all I can think.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Of is the Omen.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
That or I think of some version of sailor moon
tuxedo masks like.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Non.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It might be I can't remember, if it's all versions.
It might be Damien.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I know I know two Damiens. It's a Batman's son
and the Omen kid who I feel like there's a
there's a reason he was there.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
I think it's just in the English.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
The English, well, there you go, tuxed on mask.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
I'm trying to confirm whether it is, because obviously in
the Japanese his name is Memory, Memory, I don't remember
how to pronounce that. Give me an English name. I'm
pretty sure it is Damien. I'm pretty sure this is
just some weird, weird knowledge that I have stored.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I just have this image in my head now, Sailor
Moon being like I did it all for you. Damien.
Uh you know, uh, while you're looking that up, I
just want.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
To say it's Darien, But I'm pretty sure there was
one version that was Damien instead. Oh God, shouldn't be
surprised that they're selling the batmobile for millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Well, you know, I was going to say, look a
look at this thing. You know, I you and I
are both fairly anti billionaire. I think that's fair.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
And it's one of those things of like, there's a
lot about this that I hate as much as I
do like Batman. He's one of the good ones as
far as billionaires go, him and Scrooge McDuck.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
But I don't know. Poison Ivy was still right.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Poison Ivy was on percent right, was still.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Right, and he didn't let her do anything about it.
So points deducted for that one. Get your get your
stuff together there, Batman.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
But the thing that gets me is like, as much
as I hate this, i'd still rather see these than
a bunch of cyber trucks.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know, This is way cooler to
look at than a cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Way cooler.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Cyber truck looks like Lego's gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Cyber truck looks like something that legitimately would be in
a PS one game.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
It looks like Yeah, Lorecroft tomb Raider PS one levels of.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Graphics, levels of unnecessary polygon.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, all right, we are running out of times. Are
gonna speed under these last two articles. These are both
from Unexplained Mysteries dot com. This first one is by
tk Randall and it says scientists bring vampire back from
the dead in a manner of speaking, No, they did
not bring a vampire back to life. What they did
(51:16):
was they got the face of a woman thought to
be a vampire who was buried four hundred years ago,
has been reconstructed by experts, so not brought back to life.
They made a three D model of what they think
this supposed vampire looks like.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
And they do look as joyful as you'd expect someone
to look from the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
To be fair, yes, four centuries ago the people of Pieno,
North Poland were so terrified that the body of a
woman would rise again from her grave that they went
to great links to ensure that when they buried her
on the ground, she was definitely going to stay there.
When her remains were unearthed by scientists from Nicholas Copernicus
University in Poland back in twenty twenty two, they discovered
(51:55):
that she had been entombed with a shackle around her
foot in an ironsickle place to cross her neck. Basically
after examining they would have, they realized she would have
been only twenty years old when she died, and that
she had suffered from a condition brought about She had
suffered from a condition that had brought about various symtoms,
including mental health problems, which may have contributed to the belief.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
That she was a vampire.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
So yeah, through forensic techniques, they've basically made it so
they can look at what she looks like now, since
kind of hard to tell from just a skeleton.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yes, maybe potential future sneak peak of an episode, But
watched a video recently on vampire burials and they are
very fascinating, so maybe we can revisit this article here
soon ish.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
There's a really good quote at the end of this
from archaeologist Oscar Nilssen, and it says it's really ironic
in a way. These people burying her. They did everything
they could in order to prevent her from coming back
from the dead. We have done everything we can in
order to bring her back to life. They have named
her Zeussia Zosia.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Zeisia.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
So I thought that was interesting and.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Speaking of interesting, since we were doing our speed run.
Ghost may die after a lifespan of one hundred years,
researchers claim.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
This one's also from tk Rando at on explained Mysteries
dot com.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yes, and if my laptop will work correctly so. Brian
sterling Vede maintains that intelligent paranormal entities may actually have
a limited lifespan.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Does this ghost name why we don't see dinosaur ghos?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Maybe you know it would make sense? Uh? Do ghost
live forever? While it seems strange to suggest that something
thought of as a disembodied spirit of a dead person
can itself die after a certain amount of time, such
a possibility has been gaining traction in recent years among
some paranormal researchers. One of these is Brian star Vede,
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a veteran enthusiast of all things supernatural who has spent
a considerable amount of time analyzing data collection from various
paranormal investigations.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Sounds like we wanted to talk to Brian.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
And we do. According to his findings, sightings a famous
ghostly location of the world occurring less and less frequently,
especially those that have been around for one hundred years
or more. When with all, when all the data has considered,
it was quite a shock to think that many of
once famous ghosts could literally be dying. He said, you know,
just all over again, you know, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Man, you know, how much would it suck to die
and then die as a ghost.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
And also be like, what's killing them? Is it like
that they do it?
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Or is it just like they're so sick of watching
us do this stupid stuff that they're just like, you
know what, forget my unfinished business.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
I would assume some kind of energy dispersion, if anything.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Yeah, I mean, I guess energy can't.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Well, it's you know, all I can really think of is.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
The physics, which is, uh, you.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Know, who wants to live forever when love can.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Diem Okay, yeah, I'm thinking physics here because there's the
whole you know, an object emotion wants to stay in motion,
an object of rest wants to stay at rest, and
energy can neither be created nor destroyed, so your energy
can only be converted to a different type of energy.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
So well, you know those lyrics, they're from this theme
song for the movie Highlander. And you know, for those
mister Crabs fans out there, Clancy Brown he was in
Highlander and he had some very insightful stuff to say
(55:53):
about this subject. Would you like to hear it?
Speaker 7 (55:57):
Sure, it's better to burn out the the fade away.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
I also just realized that in the article it actually
says in here in simple terms, the second law of
thermodynamics tells us that energy tends to disperse into grade
over time. I would argue that our finding show ghosts
do conform to the second law of thermodynamics as they
appear to run out of energy.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Ah, so there goes your idea for a ghost powered
perpetual emotion machine.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Darn I cross that one offul list. Yeah, we should
reach out to Brian because I want to hear his
theories on this.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, because dye second time sounds awful, Dying the first
time sounds not that great.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
I mean, it's inevitable.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Or you know, maybe it's peaceful though.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Well, so it's the last the thing like, I'm not
really afraid of death so much as I am afraid
of it being painful.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, you know, it might just be like an energy dispersal.
You know, you can tell your flames growing dim and
you know, then you go into Yeah, you've had time
to make your peace and remember energy cannot be destroyed,
just changed.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
And uh, speaking of going into the light and dispersing
your energy into the universe, it is that time of
night where we need to sign off.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
So from strange shock here, good night and good luck.
Speaker 6 (57:47):
Don't take quit me at night wrong. I'm great, don't
think me wild.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
I'm may and mild weakness is my feature. Please have
a little city and listen to my disease. I'm not
the great delied to whole heal heals in Dia city.
(58:23):
I'm the golst of a troop that is famed in heory.
I'm the ghost of a bunt that we're only out
for glory, glory, glory, hellier money never caught immiy novelty.
(58:47):
I'm the ghost that never was. On salary day, to
pray that I'd make my appearing, but railroad payers and
empty cares they called any interpeering. No, they are not all.
Speaker 6 (59:13):
Honey, and don't think me too.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
Funny when I tell you that I couldn't even paid
them with dates money. I'm the gold of a truth
that defended him Kaory. I'm the ghost of a bond
(59:41):
that were only out for glory, glory, glory hallalal money
never taught him me novelty. I'm the goost that never was.
I'm the goal but true that deframed e b R.
(01:00:04):
I'm the coast of a bun that we're only out
for glory, glory, glory, hall relluial money. Never call immy noblety.
I'm the coast that never walked.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
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