October 9, 2024 • 59 mins
This week on Strange Talk, we’re testing something new: a better call-in feature! Join Alyx and Creature as we open the lines to hear your most eerie experiences of déjà vu and premonitions.Have you ever felt like you’ve lived a moment before it even happened, or had a vision of something that came true against all odds? Tonight, we’re diving into the mysterious world of glimpses into the future, lost memories, and the spine-tingling sensation that time isn’t as linear as it seems. From shadowy warnings to unsettling coincidences, our listeners have stories that will send chills down your spine and make you question the very fabric of reality.Adding to the intrigue, local tarot reader Readings by Sunshine calls in for a special segment of dream interpretation. They'll unravel the hidden meanings behind your most vivid dreams and reveal how they connect to premonitions and the shadowy pathways of déjà vu. Tune in, if you dare, and maybe you’ll find yourself part of the strange—because sometimes, the future whispers before it screams.Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Intro by Star Silk, Subterranean Terror by Karl Casey, and backing tracks by LoFiGeek.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
What space in in.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Good evening and welcome to the hour dedicated to talking
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in most of our episodes, is the Strange Talk intro
(01:49):
by Star Silk and I'm your host, Alex.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And I'm your co host Creature.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And you'll notice that Creature sounds a little different because
we're trying out a new call in feature, so we're
getting that crackly, you know, phone quality that you know
and love so much. But yeah, we figured we haven't
done open lines in a while. We'll see if this
new call in future works and go from there. But
(02:21):
we thought, you know, as a good test test Q
into being able to take callin's a little more organically
that we would talk about deja vu and premonitions tonight.
So if you've ever had dejevu or a premonition, we'd
like to hear from you. So I guess you you
(02:46):
before we started said that people mix up deja vu
and premonitions all the time. What what would you say
the difference is.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I would say that the difference is that dejab who
is the stens that you've been somewhere before, which a
lot of people are like, oh, I've had a dream
about this, does a deja vu? That's saying not deja vu?
If you have if you have a dream or you
like a vision, that is a premonition, that is a
(03:15):
separate thing from deja vu.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Okay, So I.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Believe what's the premonition.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Except like, for example, say like, uh, you have a
premonition of like vaguely something happening in the future. Uh,
you may not even realize that it's a premonition until
it happens, but you'll have been like I've I've been here,
(03:45):
I have experienced this before in a dream, as opposed
to like deja vu, which is like something separate of
like oh this is this has happened before. I believe
there's some people have tried to give a scientific lean
to deja vu, but interesting, I would say those are
(04:07):
I say those are probably the key differences.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think the thing for me is I've always considered
them the same thing because I usually experienced deja vu. So,
like I think I've talked about this before on the show.
Sometimes I will have dreams where, you know, this thing
happens up to and including me realizing it's happening and
knowing that I can't stop it, and then it happens,
(04:31):
you know, either the next day or a month, a
week later or a month later, up to and including
me realizing that I'm having this happening and trying to
stop it, but then the thing happening anyway. So I
always called that deja vu because it has felt like
I've been there before, because I've seen it before and
realized it was happening and was just like, oh I,
And it's always like it's never anything catastrophic. It's always
(04:53):
something like really innane. Like one of the first early
ones I remember happening was being in the backseat of
a car the drive down to Florida and staring out
the window at the sky and us on the highway
passing a man walking and I was like, that's weird.
There should not be a man walking on the highway.
And that's like one of the earlish premonitions slash experiences
(05:16):
I've had where it's kind of both.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
For me.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
See, that's the thing for me, is I have the similar,
not similar, the exact same thing as to where you
have dreams and then you later on during the day
you're like, oh, you know, like I've I've lived, I've
experienced this before in a dream. I guess the it's
(05:42):
funny because what I was thinking one of mine is
also riding in a car, but it was like through
the woods. But I would say probably, I would say
the big difference between the two is I feel like
you can have deja vu with we you can have
DejaVu without having the dreams, just that sense of like,
(06:05):
you know, I've been here before. There's something similar about this,
yeahs as opposed to like premonitions, which are more like
a prophetic thing. So I guess I would say that,
like deja vu comes with premonitions, but uh, premonitions don't
necessarily trigger DejaVu, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, okay, so they can go together, they don't have to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, And I think a lot of people say deja
vu when they mean premonition.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah. Yeah, I've always used them interchangeably but that's because
I am experiencing kind of both at the same time,
same time.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, they're working in tandem.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, in tandem significantly weirder. The the older I get,
the more that I will realize it's happening, and then
I'll be like, well, I'm going to do this instead
because that seems like gobson, what I'm gonna do. And
then that'll be part of it too, And then usually
shortly after that is where that little weirdness ends.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
See. That's the thing is they're so inane. On my part,
they're so inane. I'm just like like I've just gotten
to a point now where like, oh, I've dreamed about this,
and I just keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
See. I always try to stop it just because I'm
like I want to I want to be able to
figure out if I can, like if I can interrupt
the process there.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's always been for me, it's always been like, oh,
you know, like I'm in the middle of something. Yeah,
it's always it's never late. That's always the thing that
it's always like I love in movies where people have
these like prophetic dreams, it's always just like deep like
thing going on. Yeah, and then I'm just like, I'm
(07:55):
just like really, I was like like listening to Black
Sabbage playing on Steam, Like, I don't really I don't
really know how this is sact anything, but okay, yeah,
but I did have a friend in high school who
I mentioned you before the show. She mentioned having a
(08:19):
similar thing to us, but she said she actively tried
to change things and that she was successful, but that
it made her look weird.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Well yeah, so yeah, because the opposite of what you
think you'd do, so normally it's something pretty weird honestly. Yeah, yeah,
I just think like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I've always been like go with the wave at that point.
I mean, you know, I guess if there's ever like
anything bad or important, I'll try and stop it. But
you know, like yeah, yeah, no, I was gonna say,
how long have you known that you've had like these interactions?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh, I mean, that's that's happened my whole life. It's
just never been like because it's always something like really mundane.
So I've never really like thought much of it. I
just assumed it was a weird thing that happens to everybody. Uh.
One of one of the weirdest ones that I ever
had was I had a dream about the layout of
a friend of mine's house, and then her birthday party
(09:34):
was that weekend and I walked in. It's like an
apartment and I walked in. I was like, okay, yeah,
in the bathroom's right here on the left, right when
you walk in. The kitchens here, it's like a half counter,
there's a rooster statue sitting on top of the fridge.
And then the living room there's like the doors that
go right out and just into the parking lot basically,
And it was weird because, yeah, I like walked in
(09:56):
her apartment and was like, oh, I I know the
entire layout of your apartment for no reason. Like at
one point while we were hanging out, she was like, oh,
the bathroom's over there, and I was like, I know. Yeah.
I was like, I don't know why, but I know.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I was gonna say that's interesting. Yeah. I feel like
if I told my dreams that it would be the
radio equivalent of forcing people to look at your slide
shows from your vacation from four years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, I have strange, like my premonition deja vou dreams,
whatever they are, are very tame, but my actual normal
dreams are just like Bizarro.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I was gonna say, I'm not capable of lucid dreaming,
though I have tried for so long and it is
not working out for me. I'm trying no hard, but
is not working out. In the slightest.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I have a friend who has always claimed to be
like always lucid dream. I feel like I've managed to
do something once or twice in the dream, but like again,
nothing of any substance. I think I was skyboarding and
(11:28):
I kept trying to do a flip, and I knew
I was dreaming, and I kept I kept repeating the
part in my head till I got the flip right. Yeah,
and I've never skyboarded ever. By the way, I'm terrified
of heights. Not sure where that came from, but I
(11:48):
did it. I did it at one point, so there
you go.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I remember waking up kind of grumpy halfway through that
and falling immediately back to sleep to keep trying. I think, uh,
but you know, I was gonna say, uh, have you
guys ever talked about like dream interpretation?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, we we. We had a dream interpreter come on
the show.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Too long ago, no.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No years back. It was when it was me and
Jordan Dan. I'm I'm blanking on her name right now.
She was so lovely because I had never met her
in person. And then that year we all went to
Mouth Manifest and I actually got to meet her there
and it was really cool. She was so nice, and
I remember something about the post office. I think she
worked at the post office, but then also interpreted Dreams.
(12:39):
You have to go back to that episode and see
her name she was. She was a friend of Jordan
Dan's and she was so so nice. I'd love to
have me huh, well, I don't. I don't know that
she did that for money. I think that was something
she did for the love of doing it. I would
love to just send her all of my like most
(13:02):
recent dreams and go, what do you make of this?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You know, she might have some interesting input on this
whole conversation as well.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, uh, I can also pull up. So we keep
a sort of friend dream journal where anytime anyone has
a weird dream, we go and send it in here
and go what is wrong with you? So? Uh okay, Yeah,
here's the weirdest one that I had. Actually, I had
(13:35):
this dream on nine to eleven. It was the last
one I posted in here, and it says I was
in an alley with like some old classmates and it
was like nobody I actually recognized, so like, I think
my brain just like auto generated some classmates, like the
Sims or something. And I remember it being fallout because
there was just leaves falling everywhere, and everyone was showing
these like old pictures from you know, I suppose they
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are a time in school. Until we got to this
one girl, I was like, I don't have any pictures,
you know, I didn't really take pictures back then. I
was like, what do you mean. I took a whole
bunch of pictures of you back then, So I pulled
them out. But then when we went to look at them,
it cut to like a stylized movie of like her
doing things when we were in middle school or high
school whenever. It was so once we got done watching
(14:19):
this weird stylized like cut scene, we were still in
the alley after that, but we were all talking and
we're just we decided that we needed to put a
skypirate crew together. And we decided we need a skypirate crew.
And I look over to my classmates in this alley
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and Jamie Lee Curtis is now one of them, and
she just nods. She doesn't say anything, she just nods
like this nod of approval, like yeah, I'll join I'm
into this. So we decide we have to go get
a ship. Then we end up recruiting Damon Alburn on
the way like from Gorillas, and we go to this
(15:03):
park and we start dissembling the playground because it is
pirate ship shaped and we're going to use that as
the basis for our pirate ship. And at some point
while we were taking that apart to build our pirate ship,
somebody said something to me. So I followed them back
to their house. And as we were walking to their house,
it was winter and they lived on this big snowy
(15:26):
hill and it was just snow. Everywhere in the street
was just ligned with cars, and I was like, wow,
it got really cold really quick. And then we walk
into the house and there was a Halloween party going on,
and Jamie Lee Curtis is there once again and she yeah,
like I said, she wasn't communicating. She was only nodding
(15:47):
or shaking her head to communicate. And I remember I
had this wig on and people kept asking me if
it was my real hair, and I looked over at
Jamie Lee Curtis and she's like was shaking her head.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
No, like m.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And then I woke up because someone pulled my wig off,
And then I woke up. Did you Joe please, if
somebody in dreams, please tell me what that means? Is
it just Jamielee Curtis trying to advertise Activia to me? Like,
what is happening here?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Why am I hurtings?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yes, that sounds like one of the most interesting nine
to elevens I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh no, I hadn't realized that I had that dream
on nine to eleven. Uh yeah, I guess technically it
was nine ten because I posted that at nine oh
five in the morning on nine to eleven. I immediately
went there and was like, I cannot forget this weird,
this weird Jamie Lee Curtis dream that I had.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Well, you know what they say, never forget.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah. Oh oh, we've got a collar in the queue.
All right, Hello, you're on with Strange Talk. Hey, Hi,
do you have a story about a premonition or deja vu?
I was just talking about a very strange dream I
(17:14):
had if you've got a very strange dream as well.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Oh yeah, well I definitely have had deja vo before
also with dreams, Yeah yeah, mine. I mean they've like
started when I was a kid, really, but I've also
have always experienced strange stuff and you know, like hat
(17:42):
Man like that type of stuff. But with deja vu,
it was just kind of centered around school and like
interactions in school interactions. Yeah, like kind of more what
I would believe to be mundane things. But I don't know, like, uh,
(18:04):
oddly enough, like one year, my school actually moved. We
moved from one location to another, so upon like reflection,
I kind of think it was maybe like about the
environment and like the physical place of moving, and they
it's like associated with that and something being picked up
(18:26):
on like energy shifting. But I had this weird dream
that was way before we even moved. It was like
probably you know, months and month prior. It was before
I knew that the school was moving, because it was
a kind of last minute thing. And I had this
(18:47):
dream where I'm walking up to this strange building and
I'm going to school, and I don't know where anything is,
but I walk in and I figure it out and
I have to like classroom sit up, and the classroom's weird,
this giant room with like shelves kind of dividing it,
and it was just really bizarre and come to you,
starting junior high school. I get out of the car.
(19:11):
We're at the new location, and as them walking down
the sidewalks, I like start remembering the stream that I
had and I'm experiencing it in real time. It's kind
of just like outer body experience. Which did you experience
that when you had Daja vu?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, it's sort of not necessarily out of body, but
sort of that feeling of things just feeling so surreal
because you kind of know what's happening and you can't
stop it for.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Me exactly, yeah, okay, yeah, because I was wondering if
it was like the same type of experience where it
was like, okay, I know that this specific thing is
going to happen.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, and it did.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
And like, granted, you know, this is me going into
junior highe and that can seem like pretty predictable, but
mind you, it was two school sharing a giant building. Yeah,
nothing was actually up to like a standard at that point.
Everyone was just figuring it out and I was handed
a map and like to get to this classroom. And
(20:13):
I get to my homeroom and it has a giant
It has exactly as I dreamed it, a giant like
array of shelves to divide a room so that one
side could be English class and the other could be science.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Wow, that is really cool.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Yeah, it's not fancy, no, no fancy tarps, just a
bunch of like huge shelves that were separating from a
giant room. And I had no idea, Like I just
was walking along and going with it, and the whole
time I'm just freaking out of like, oh my god,
I had this dream like this is what the dream
(20:53):
was was so that I wouldn't feel as nervous on
my first day in this new environment. And that was
like one of the days were like for me, like
strange phenomenon really clicked. I had other things happen, but
I didn't know that it could be like that mundane
almost like there was interest and like fascination in something
(21:15):
seemingly mundane. Yeah, like, oh I can even experience something
weird when it comes to finding my homeroom, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of hopeful too, of being
like Hey, let me show you, you know what homeroom
is going to look like.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yeah, Like, it's definitely interesting. I personally feel like Dajevo
has a lot to do with like alignment. You know,
we talk about like certain realities or being in certain
planes of existence, but I feel like deja vu is
as fine from whatever the universe planes. I don't know.
(21:54):
It could be from a sentience being whatever it may be,
showing me that you're like in that alignment of what
you're supposed to experience.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, creature, creature. Have I ever told you about how
I learned to whistle? Okay, so scratch my I said
before the weirdest deja vous or premonition or whatever you
want to call this I ever had was I learned
to whistle through a dream. I had been trying to
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learn for like a year and I just could not
figure it out. I was like, why isn't this working?
And I had a dream that someone taught me how
to whistle, and I woke up and I was like,
what are the odds? Let me try that? And it worked.
What they showed me in my dream worked, And that's
how I learned to whistle. Is I learned it through
(22:49):
a dream, which is the weirdest possible saying it's your fault.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
We're in the timeline that we're in. I do.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't know that I taught myself. Something taught me,
but it came to me in a dream, which is
the most beautifully ominous phrase.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
What were you whistling?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What was that?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
What time of day were you whistling? How did you
learn how to whistle? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
In my dream? It was it was daytime and I
was standing in uh my dad's driveway and it was
really bright and sunny out.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Oh okay, yeah, so no whistling at night, you know,
just to year me thinking of some Navajo DNA stuff
with the US.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I learned how to whistle and a dream.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, it terrifying.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
All.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yeah, there are a lot of like indigenous like anthologies
on not whistling at night.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, so I'm glad that I was not taught to
learn how whistle at night in my dream. And I
didn't try it until the morning either, So yeah, I
have no idea how, but that's how I learned to whistle.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Yeah, with a little ditty for us.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Uh let me uh, I can't think of a song
to whistle.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh my god, alignment.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Oh where did where did you get the message to
call in at I'm curious.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
So I'm actually pals with uh with one of the
hosts here.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You can take a guess which one creature. Yeah. I
messaged a bunch of people being like, hey, we set
up our call in line if you have a story
about DejaVu or premonition, just to see who might have
some fun stories. That's why I figured we'd pick a
fun topic tonight.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yeah, that's the like first memory I have about like
significant deja vu where I was like, Okay, this is
a thing that I've experienced like in little bits before,
but this was the first time where I could fully
recognize in real time that it was happening. When it
comes to like premonitions, I don't know, I feel like
(25:18):
they can be kind of interpreted a little bit different
other than like clear visions. I feel like I've definitely
experienced things where I've felt sensations which I've talked to
you about before, which I kind of feel, you know,
maybe could could be instinctive premonitions rather than a full visions. Yeah,
(25:44):
there's been a lot of crazy, crazy, crazy coincidences where
I could feel that something was going to happen before
it happened, and gotten out of some really almost tragic
situations or survived them because of it. So it's yeah,
it's wild.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That is really wild. Do you practice dream interpretation at all?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
A little bit? Yeah, just because of my natural interest, Yeah,
with like psychology and being raised by like a psychiatric
nurse and like behavioral psychologist. Yeah, it's like kind of
naturally got passed down to me. But yeah, I like
Sam Froyd, I like sm Froid.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah I was. I don't know if I told you
about the dream I recently had about Jamie Lee Curtis,
but that's what I was talking about before. Right before
you called, Uh, I'll give you the quick recap. Met
some old classmates. We decided we were going to become
sky pirates. Jamie Lee Curtis was there for some reason,
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and we were like, cool, we're gonna go to this playground.
Just ment to the playground. I don't know. She did
not talk the whole time. She would only nod or
shake her head. It was like current Jamie Lee Curtis too.
She had the glasses on and the short like silver hair.
(27:17):
The seasons kept changing during my dream, and at the
end I ended up at this this Halloween party and
someone pulled my wig off while Jamie Lee Curtis was
shaking her head. And then I woke up.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
And it is you needed more Activita.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That was exactly my reaction was. I was like, what
is this? Are they beaming Activita commercials right to my brain?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Now you did leave out which mystical day it was on.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Uh yeah, I had this this dream on nine to eleven,
and I as soon as I woke up at nine
o five in the morning, I went to we have
this running dream journal, and I immediately posted it in
there so I can go back and find all my
time stance of when I had these weird dreams. I
have another one in here. I was like on some
(28:10):
competition show. It was like an acting show, and so
I had to do this scene as an alien. So
this makeup artist was like trying to do this alien
makeup on me, and she was like smoking a cigarette
in one of those long cigarette holders, and she just
kept telling me Mav and Jade are your colors? Mav
and Jade are your colors? Well, just putting glitter all
(28:30):
over me, and I woke up and was like, I
don't know what to make of that either.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yeah, you were supposed to be a d actually, I
mean yeah, I think that like that one, that one
I would read more into.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
The right.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That one. I don't even know what to begin to
read into that one. Uh So while she was doing that,
I did get to see one of the other people
doing their like acting challenge thing was doing this like
fantasy drama scene and there was some magic amulet and
when I look closer at it, it was just straight
up like five marbles wire wrapped together. And I was
looking at it like, that's not like a real amulet.
(29:19):
And then that's when I woke up. So that was
the full dream.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I could take. I analyze the like crap out of
this dream.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Okay, do you want to do you want to take
a crack at it? Do you want to tell me what?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Sadly take a crack at plase? So as for the
makeup in your dream, when you're getting your makeup done
for this like big acting class, this performance, I think
that's about masking. I think that's about how a voice
maybe in your mind is telling you that you need
(29:53):
to be more grounded given the colors that were being
described as greens and shade. Okay about grounding yourself, but
the fact that they look like glitter, I think that's
how you mask yourself to put on the show. Be
a mirror, be reflected, be bright, maybe be a little distracting.
(30:14):
And talking about an amulet and you looking at it
and seeing only like marbles on a string. I think
that that's about one there are. There are a couple
of interpretations of that. I think you lost marble that
you have, but in a more like not fun and
(30:36):
funny sense of maybe like a loss of imagination and
like positivity.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, because I will say the girl that was acting
in this was absolutely crushing it. But then I just
looked down and was like, Oh, they gave you like
the cheapest looking amulet when you were just like killing this.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Yeah. I think it's kind of about maybe at the
time that you were having this dream about you masking
and not feeling like you were grounded and who you
were and that you had something to kind of prove,
and that's why you couldn't kind of get lost in
the immersion of the actual act itself, was because you
were focusing on the act of what you were presenting
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to yourself and to the every day rather than the
actual like grand performance. Okay, okay, that would be like
at least at least in this like for five minutes.
That's what I would take away.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah right, yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
What is the significance of the haggard old like makeup
artists would taking big drags on a cigarette. I'm curious
about that aspect.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
So I would say, well, given that it's like an
older person, I would say that that's probably maybe like
an old version of yourself that you see, or it
could be someone that you viewed as someone who was
wise or like maybe even not even maybe not even wise,
(32:12):
because in your dream you didn't interpret that as like
sage advice but rather babbling. So maybe it could be
someone that us in the opposite, because I do think
that there's interpretation there. But given that they were like
smoking a cigarette in your face and I know that
you're not fond of that, I think that it's it's
(32:32):
why where it's coming from someone that maybe you wouldn't respect,
and maybe that's an old version of yourself, or maybe
that's someone that you know who's giving you unwarranted advice
about masking and claiming to know the real you while
making you up to be someone.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That you aren't.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Uh to clarify she was. She was not old and haggard.
She was just like that, very like stereotypical, like glamorous
smoking a cigarette where it was like dolling these are
Ya collas like that kind of Yeah, it's not a
haggard but very much as well.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Then if you viewed for as glamorous, then yeah, I
would kind of say that.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
That's like.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
A version of yourself that maybe you aspired to or
maybe that was your true self at the time, because
I do think it was about masking and presenting who
you were and versus what you were, like inner conflict essentially.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
A dreams trying to tell me something about hosting a
radio show. Maybe, yeah, because I mean part of hosting
a radio I yes, absolutely, part of hosting a radio
show is you know, masking, it's having to present, it's
having to host. Yeah, maybe my dream is trying to
(33:47):
tell me that the show needs more glitter.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I approve.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
But also, why am I picturing like exclusively Kate Bush
being the one that's like like hounds of love Kate Bush.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yes, I love Kate Bush.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
See the only the only music video I have a
frame rovers for Kate Bush is the Leathering Heights.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Okay, which version? There's two versions of that music video
and that's important.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
The a serial one where she's prancing around.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The one in the red dress in the woods that
checked out. Yeah, yes, yes, that one's the best one.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Also, if you heard that noise, that was my bad.
I may have hung a Scooby Doo key chain from
the mic stand, and I don't know why I did
that because I keep hitting it.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well, all road lead to Scooby Doo.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's true, you know, Scooby Doo. Where are you?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I believe it was Plato that I asked that, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I either Plato or Socrates, I don't remember which.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I would just saying I wish I could remember my
dreams enough to like ask you to interpret them. But
the only dreams I remember are so unpleasant that I
really don't feel like it'd be a good fit for
the vibe.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Well yeah, yeah, I mean I like. My interest for
like dream interpretation came from having nightcars after some like
not fun trauma as a child, and then also with
profession and wanting to understand why I was having night
cares and what those could represent, you know, which in
(35:39):
my case was not wanting, not being mature enough to
deal with trauma one and you know that manifesting in
that way because the subconscious is funny. And that's why
I do think that there is some like actual you know,
validity as you dream interpretation, because they do think it
(36:02):
kind of dials back most of the time to just
undealt withss uh trauma and oppressed emotion.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well, you you and I have talked about this before.
It's sort of how I viewed terror reading as well.
Where kind of how you interpret it is kind of
the important part. So if you were having dreams about
you know, constantly being late to class or the classic
like your naked in class dream and you feel stressed
(36:34):
about it's it's probably you're having a less stress from class.
That makes sense.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah, Yeah, it like goes you know, you know, you
can't have one without the other. Yeah, there's about once
things there there is a like shadow and a light
to like everything I was going.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
If we can get to the psychology behind She's.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Nancy tyromancy is the proper romancy? Have you heard of tyromancy.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Tyromancy isn't that You can correct me if I'm wrong,
But isn't that something that could be considered pretty unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You're entirely spot on there, Okay, all.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Right, yeah, I was glad I weren't for it.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I was really I was like, are you about to
say something completely off the wall of like, oh, isn't
that this? And it was like something really strange? But no,
you just absolutely nailed it first either.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Oh goodness, well, isn't isn't she's mostly calcium? Like I
don't know how science works, but I assume that's true.
That's the same as reading bones, right, you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Heard it here first? Cheese is the same as reading bones.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
I mean, I feel like you can use any tool
to be spiritual and to use as a like psychological
metaphor and kind of like evaluation. I mean, actual psychologists
lead toys, and there's various like properties, puzzles, pictures, I mean,
(38:38):
like the ink Blat test, Like I think that there
is like oddly, you know, an actual like you know,
I get it in that sense, Like I read Taro
and I've used the like what do you mean game
to read Taro before it's It's just another tool, except
(39:02):
that one happens to go really well with balsamic vinaigrette.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
If you've ever done tea leaf reading, you don't have
to do that with tea. You can do it with
a can of spaghettios if you try hard enough, and
I have. I am a huge fan of using spaghettios
for witchcraft because I think it's really funny.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
I mean, I was gonna say, like, alphabet.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Soup, alphabet.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
See to me, that's opening too many doors with some
terrifying stuff.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Oh use alphabet.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, like how do you how do you close a
can of soup?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
How do you close the can of soup?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You eat it? You just eat. At that point you'd
be like, all right, by spirits, I'm going to eat
the letters.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Can Can I bring up the Patreon ideas, Alex?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Maybe maybe let's let's wait on that, since we haven't
made any of that official yet.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Oh I I was just thinking about, can I tell
one of my ideas?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
We talk about what we're what we're thinking to do,
and people can tell us if they're interested in it.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Let's do that, okay?
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I was thinking as a monthly reward, Alex uh is
well versed in various forms of uh future reading. I
feel like there's a better word, thank you. Yeah, there's not.
He'll be word for it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, future reading.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
And yeah, and I was thinking I'm not proficient in
any of that, but if people would like I can
tell their future with the magic eight ball.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yes, I do actually keep now a tiny cauldron shaped
magic eight ball in my car because sometimes you can't
make decisions while driving where you're like should I stop
at this gas station or wait for the next one?
You just shake your little car magic eight ball and
it gives you an answer. And that is how we
decided what gas stations to stop at on the way
back from mack Manfest.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Nice, Yeah, highly recommend if you are as a decisive
as I am.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I found one that looks like an eyeball, and I
thought that that was pretty sick.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
That is pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yeah, you know what would random suggestion? What there was
an st magic eight ball online?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Oh, like a like a virtual magic eight ball.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, oh that would be fun.
Speaker 8 (42:10):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'd have to think on how to make that, but
I think that is possible.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
You could come up with some real creative future reading.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, I actually want to make you remember those fortune
tellers that we used to make as a kid that
you would fold.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Oh absolutely, yeah, I don't know what the technical that
work today.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
See, I want to make us a strange talk one.
I'm not sure exactly how to go about that yet,
but I loved those so much as a kid, and
I'm like, why don't I play with those more as
an adult because that would be really fun. Oh yeah, yes,
I want to make a strange truck one at some
point and then just make it so people can put
them off and fold them. But I have to remember
(42:56):
how to make those, because I don't remember how to
fold them. I used to be so good at it
as a kid, but it's one of those skills you
lose if you're if you're not using it, it's bad.
And drawing, Yeah, luckily, that one I've kept up with,
but not so much the folding things. Any of the
(43:16):
like I don't know if it would be called patty cake,
any of those, like song things like I don't remember
any of those from back in the day. I remember
the words, but.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Not Yeah, like the like Children's Ryan mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, I remember those, but yeah, it's it's weird. The
things that you remember from childhood.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Say, why are those always the things that are the
most unsettling.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
To us because they're mostly based from like European hordes.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, and also kids are weird and creepy honestly.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Like my favorite TV show as a kid was Couraged
the Cowardly Dog, And I don't know how my parents
didn't look at that and go, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 6 (44:08):
It was the nineties, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And then I guess in the early two thousands there
was worse stuff going on so.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Here.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, that's uh what a magical time to be alive.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
Yeah, oh yeah, I mean we had we had Rocko's
Modern Life, also a.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Super weird show that was very fun and very strange.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Or like a real monster. You remember that one.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I loved that show. The one guy, the one guy
that would walk around with his eyeballs in his hands,
like not in them, like just holding them. And then
the stripey goth candy cane lady. Yeah yeah, I don't
remember any of their names.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Oh I gotta actually figures of both of those characters
right here. Nice Obina Oblina was the candy cane one.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah. There we go.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
Yeah, myame was my face was Zimbo because Tim Curry.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah yeah, really, I did not know that.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
Yeah, Zimbo had some extra flair that's wild.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I think was the other one, right, the Goblins?
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I how did any of that get
approved and past censors?
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Like?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't think they would air that stuff today?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Oh definitely no.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Then again, Animaniacs had really some raunchy jokes in there
that made it past the censors somehow.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
So yeah, goodness, Yeah, it's pretty fascinating. I was gonna say, I,
you know, you know what hits? Those good childhood memories, though,
I think maybe helped all of us become the people
we are. What is Unsolved Mysteries my favorite childhood show.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I still to this day. I will watch an episode
and get to the end and be like, what do
you mean there's not an answer? What do you mean
it's unsolved? Because I want to as.
Speaker 8 (46:27):
Well.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Some of them get updated later, but some of them don't,
and they just remain a mystery forever, and I can't
handle that.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Well, one thing I've learned is they've only gotten updated
to a certain point. Then I think that the rights
holder stopped here. Yeah, because I've seen one or two
that were like unsolved that look. Oh no, it's like
a full confession and everything, like thirty years later. So
(46:56):
I thank god for Google. I guess did they try
to remake.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
That they are, No, they're still making episodes.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
It's actually the like first season. I really enjoyed. It
was pretty good. Yeah, I mean like unsolved mysteries. I
think of like, uh, Circleville, like the Circleville writer.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
I'm not familiar with Ville.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
I don't so like, uh, growing up in the Midwest,
it was the thing. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
The uh.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Is that like a show or no.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
So in Circleville, in Circleville, Ohio, where my home states,
there were in like I think in the seventies, like
mid seventies, people just started randomly getting strange letters that
super personal detail their lives.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
The first major incident of like something like that happening.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, I know the Stephen King story based off that.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know I remember that,
you know, even being relevant when I was a kid
and hearing about it. But they did an episode on it.
I think they revisited it a few times.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, that's that's wild.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah, very interesting. Yeah, they know there was a Stephen
King story about that that I thought it was pretty good.
I believe at the end of the King story they
found out who is responsible for it. It was a
it was a little old lady. I thought it was
(49:00):
a pretty cool to do that to her neighbors. Yeah,
it's pretty good stuff. That's kind of terrifying though. Yeah,
I've always god, just imagine that it would be so like.
Speaker 8 (49:20):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
That's why I live off grid and a little cap.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
That's why some days I dream about going going out
into the woods and just becoming one with the moss.
Speaker 6 (49:36):
With becoming encrypted of your own.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I think all people that work in it feel that way.
We deal with computers so much that when we are
not working, we just want to become one with the earth,
whether that means literally or figuratively, one with the king.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
As the makeup artist, just.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Mob and Jade there your colors.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
Exactly know what you're talking about. All this time, I've been.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Like, I've genuinely been thinking about that since then, where
I'm like, why MOV and Jade, there's such like they're
oddly specific, and I do like those colors.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Well, that's why your brain launched onto them because you
like those colors.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
They're not like my favorite though.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Oh but here's the thing. Is it is it that
they uh that your brain registers them on a level
that your conscious mind does them.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
They have some significance, not any that I can think of,
But you never, maybe it's not Maybe maybe maybe I'm
just not ready for that knowledge yet. Maybe maybe maybe
it will reveal itself in time, and I'll have to
do an update on here about I figured out what
the mob and the jade means.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yeah, I don't even know what that first color is.
I'm gonna be mov.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
It's like it's a really pretty color. It's kind of
like a purpleish pink.
Speaker 6 (51:14):
Yeah, it's kind of like how would you could describe.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
I guess it's more of a pinkish purple.
Speaker 6 (51:22):
It's it's kind of like have you seen like, do
you know what Stara flowers are?
Speaker 8 (51:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Oh wow, we're way out of my wheelhouse right now.
Speaker 6 (51:34):
They're kind of like it's close I would say to
like lavender.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Almost like yeah, if you mix lavender with a light pink,
and then it just made it like it's like it's
a very like dusty color too.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
Yeah, it's a dusty lavender.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Well, it's interesting that your brain lash on like two
like I guess oddly kind of earth toneish ethereal colors,
if that makes any sense, Yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
That's like not normally my colors at all. So maybe, honestly,
maybe my brain's just trying to give me fashion advice.
Speaker 6 (52:11):
I might do that, or like the stone like jade,
if you get into crystals like spiritual meaning, Jade's supposed
to be because like jade is like a pretty like
anciently involved crystals and like various cultures and like organized
(52:31):
religions and beliefs, especially in the East, but it's supposed
to like signify like with some tranquility and opportunity and balance,
So you know, maybe it could be on that side
of things in those things.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I looked up what the color MAV is supposed to
symbolize symbolize, and it says MAV gives off fel lings
of romance, sentimentality, youth, and nostalgia, and it's often associated
with decadence.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I feel like those are both very like decadent colors.
Speaker 7 (53:13):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Mean one of the literal gemstone isn't that that's pretty decadent?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, interesting?
Speaker 3 (53:22):
What is the What is the spiritual significance of jade?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Jade is it's often associated with like the heart chakra,
so it's also sort of related to compassion and love
as well as prosperity and good luck because obviously it's
a green color and so green has to mean that.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
But yeah, what do you dream about gravel? What does
that say about you?
Speaker 6 (53:51):
That about gravel?
Speaker 7 (53:53):
Yeah, I would day probably h are you like eating
it or are you just like in your dreams in general, you're.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
Just being gravel or experiencing it in like some visceral way.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
I'm just I'm just vibing with the gravel, staring down
at it. It's staring back into me, just you know,
just living life.
Speaker 6 (54:21):
I would say that that, well, gravel is the place
that usually is like laid down, you know, for I
think of like parking lots and cars off the beaten path. Yeah,
so I see it as like a rest or rest
before adventure or rest before experiencing something. That would be
(54:44):
like interpretation.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I would also think just because gravel is so like
it's like rocky and slippery, I think it for me,
it would also be sort of like a tread carefully
in some ways.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
I would say it's like similar to almost like the hermit,
and of like gather your bearings before you continue with
whatever you're going to experience.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, I think that's a good interpretation.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Y oh versed.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
We're also already at the end of the show. When
did this happen? We did not mean to keep you
this long, But thank you for calling us and joining
us and talking to us about tarot and premonitions and
spaghettios and gravel all the important things in life.
Speaker 6 (55:36):
Oh all the major yeah points, yes.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yes, all right, Well, I guess we're gonna go ahead
and sign off from a strange talk for the night.
That was a quick one. Uh yeah, so good night.
Speaker 8 (55:51):
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Speaker 5 (58:06):
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Speaker 2 (58:30):
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Speaker 5 (58:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Good evening and welcome to the hour dedicated to talking
about all things strange, weird, and paranormal. You're listening to
Strange Talk broadcasting on sixteen sixty AM and North Side
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We're also streaming at Radio artifact dot com around the
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in most of our episodes, is the Strange Talk intro
(01:49):
by Star Silk and I'm your host, Alex.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And I'm your co host Creature.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And you'll notice that Creature sounds a little different because
we're trying out a new call in feature, so we're
getting that crackly, you know, phone quality that you know
and love so much. But yeah, we figured we haven't
done open lines in a while. We'll see if this
new call in future works and go from there. But
(02:21):
we thought, you know, as a good test test Q
into being able to take callin's a little more organically
that we would talk about deja vu and premonitions tonight.
So if you've ever had dejevu or a premonition, we'd
like to hear from you. So I guess you you
(02:46):
before we started said that people mix up deja vu
and premonitions all the time. What what would you say
the difference is.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I would say that the difference is that dejab who
is the stens that you've been somewhere before, which a
lot of people are like, oh, I've had a dream
about this, does a deja vu? That's saying not deja vu?
If you have if you have a dream or you
like a vision, that is a premonition, that is a
(03:15):
separate thing from deja vu.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Okay, So I.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Believe what's the premonition.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Except like, for example, say like, uh, you have a
premonition of like vaguely something happening in the future. Uh,
you may not even realize that it's a premonition until
it happens, but you'll have been like I've I've been here,
(03:45):
I have experienced this before in a dream, as opposed
to like deja vu, which is like something separate of
like oh this is this has happened before. I believe
there's some people have tried to give a scientific lean
to deja vu, but interesting, I would say those are
(04:07):
I say those are probably the key differences.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think the thing for me is I've always considered
them the same thing because I usually experienced deja vu. So,
like I think I've talked about this before on the show.
Sometimes I will have dreams where, you know, this thing
happens up to and including me realizing it's happening and
knowing that I can't stop it, and then it happens,
(04:31):
you know, either the next day or a month, a
week later or a month later, up to and including
me realizing that I'm having this happening and trying to
stop it, but then the thing happening anyway. So I
always called that deja vu because it has felt like
I've been there before, because I've seen it before and
realized it was happening and was just like, oh I,
And it's always like it's never anything catastrophic. It's always
(04:53):
something like really innane. Like one of the first early
ones I remember happening was being in the backseat of
a car the drive down to Florida and staring out
the window at the sky and us on the highway
passing a man walking and I was like, that's weird.
There should not be a man walking on the highway.
And that's like one of the earlish premonitions slash experiences
(05:16):
I've had where it's kind of both.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
For me.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
See, that's the thing for me, is I have the similar,
not similar, the exact same thing as to where you
have dreams and then you later on during the day
you're like, oh, you know, like I've I've lived, I've
experienced this before in a dream. I guess the it's
(05:42):
funny because what I was thinking one of mine is
also riding in a car, but it was like through
the woods. But I would say probably, I would say
the big difference between the two is I feel like
you can have deja vu with we you can have
DejaVu without having the dreams, just that sense of like,
(06:05):
you know, I've been here before. There's something similar about this,
yeahs as opposed to like premonitions, which are more like
a prophetic thing. So I guess I would say that,
like deja vu comes with premonitions, but uh, premonitions don't
necessarily trigger DejaVu, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, okay, so they can go together, they don't have to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, And I think a lot of people say deja
vu when they mean premonition.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah. Yeah, I've always used them interchangeably but that's because
I am experiencing kind of both at the same time,
same time.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, they're working in tandem.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, in tandem significantly weirder. The the older I get,
the more that I will realize it's happening, and then
I'll be like, well, I'm going to do this instead
because that seems like gobson, what I'm gonna do. And
then that'll be part of it too, And then usually
shortly after that is where that little weirdness ends.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
See. That's the thing is they're so inane. On my part,
they're so inane. I'm just like like I've just gotten
to a point now where like, oh, I've dreamed about this,
and I just keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
See. I always try to stop it just because I'm
like I want to I want to be able to
figure out if I can, like if I can interrupt
the process there.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's always been for me, it's always been like, oh,
you know, like I'm in the middle of something. Yeah,
it's always it's never late. That's always the thing that
it's always like I love in movies where people have
these like prophetic dreams, it's always just like deep like
thing going on. Yeah, and then I'm just like, I'm
(07:55):
just like really, I was like like listening to Black
Sabbage playing on Steam, Like, I don't really I don't
really know how this is sact anything, but okay, yeah,
but I did have a friend in high school who
I mentioned you before the show. She mentioned having a
(08:19):
similar thing to us, but she said she actively tried
to change things and that she was successful, but that
it made her look weird.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Well yeah, so yeah, because the opposite of what you
think you'd do, so normally it's something pretty weird honestly. Yeah, yeah,
I just think like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I've always been like go with the wave at that point.
I mean, you know, I guess if there's ever like
anything bad or important, I'll try and stop it. But
you know, like yeah, yeah, no, I was gonna say,
how long have you known that you've had like these interactions?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh, I mean, that's that's happened my whole life. It's
just never been like because it's always something like really mundane.
So I've never really like thought much of it. I
just assumed it was a weird thing that happens to everybody. Uh.
One of one of the weirdest ones that I ever
had was I had a dream about the layout of
a friend of mine's house, and then her birthday party
(09:34):
was that weekend and I walked in. It's like an
apartment and I walked in. I was like, okay, yeah,
in the bathroom's right here on the left, right when
you walk in. The kitchens here, it's like a half counter,
there's a rooster statue sitting on top of the fridge.
And then the living room there's like the doors that
go right out and just into the parking lot basically,
And it was weird because, yeah, I like walked in
(09:56):
her apartment and was like, oh, I I know the
entire layout of your apartment for no reason. Like at
one point while we were hanging out, she was like, oh,
the bathroom's over there, and I was like, I know. Yeah.
I was like, I don't know why, but I know.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I was gonna say that's interesting. Yeah. I feel like
if I told my dreams that it would be the
radio equivalent of forcing people to look at your slide
shows from your vacation from four years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, I have strange, like my premonition deja vou dreams,
whatever they are, are very tame, but my actual normal
dreams are just like Bizarro.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I was gonna say, I'm not capable of lucid dreaming,
though I have tried for so long and it is
not working out for me. I'm trying no hard, but
is not working out. In the slightest.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I have a friend who has always claimed to be
like always lucid dream. I feel like I've managed to
do something once or twice in the dream, but like again,
nothing of any substance. I think I was skyboarding and
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I kept trying to do a flip, and I knew
I was dreaming, and I kept I kept repeating the
part in my head till I got the flip right. Yeah,
and I've never skyboarded ever. By the way, I'm terrified
of heights. Not sure where that came from, but I
(11:48):
did it. I did it at one point, so there
you go.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I remember waking up kind of grumpy halfway through that
and falling immediately back to sleep to keep trying. I think, uh,
but you know, I was gonna say, uh, have you
guys ever talked about like dream interpretation?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, we we. We had a dream interpreter come on
the show.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Too long ago, no.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No years back. It was when it was me and
Jordan Dan. I'm I'm blanking on her name right now.
She was so lovely because I had never met her
in person. And then that year we all went to
Mouth Manifest and I actually got to meet her there
and it was really cool. She was so nice, and
I remember something about the post office. I think she
worked at the post office, but then also interpreted Dreams.
(12:39):
You have to go back to that episode and see
her name she was. She was a friend of Jordan
Dan's and she was so so nice. I'd love to
have me huh, well, I don't. I don't know that
she did that for money. I think that was something
she did for the love of doing it. I would
love to just send her all of my like most
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recent dreams and go, what do you make of this?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You know, she might have some interesting input on this
whole conversation as well.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, uh, I can also pull up. So we keep
a sort of friend dream journal where anytime anyone has
a weird dream, we go and send it in here
and go what is wrong with you? So? Uh okay, Yeah,
here's the weirdest one that I had. Actually, I had
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this dream on nine to eleven. It was the last
one I posted in here, and it says I was
in an alley with like some old classmates and it
was like nobody I actually recognized, so like, I think
my brain just like auto generated some classmates, like the
Sims or something. And I remember it being fallout because
there was just leaves falling everywhere, and everyone was showing
these like old pictures from you know, I suppose they
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are a time in school. Until we got to this
one girl, I was like, I don't have any pictures,
you know, I didn't really take pictures back then. I
was like, what do you mean. I took a whole
bunch of pictures of you back then, So I pulled
them out. But then when we went to look at them,
it cut to like a stylized movie of like her
doing things when we were in middle school or high
school whenever. It was so once we got done watching
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this weird stylized like cut scene, we were still in
the alley after that, but we were all talking and
we're just we decided that we needed to put a
skypirate crew together. And we decided we need a skypirate crew.
And I look over to my classmates in this alley
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and Jamie Lee Curtis is now one of them, and
she just nods. She doesn't say anything, she just nods
like this nod of approval, like yeah, I'll join I'm
into this. So we decide we have to go get
a ship. Then we end up recruiting Damon Alburn on
the way like from Gorillas, and we go to this
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park and we start dissembling the playground because it is
pirate ship shaped and we're going to use that as
the basis for our pirate ship. And at some point
while we were taking that apart to build our pirate ship,
somebody said something to me. So I followed them back
to their house. And as we were walking to their house,
it was winter and they lived on this big snowy
(15:26):
hill and it was just snow. Everywhere in the street
was just ligned with cars, and I was like, wow,
it got really cold really quick. And then we walk
into the house and there was a Halloween party going on,
and Jamie Lee Curtis is there once again and she yeah,
like I said, she wasn't communicating. She was only nodding
(15:47):
or shaking her head to communicate. And I remember I
had this wig on and people kept asking me if
it was my real hair, and I looked over at
Jamie Lee Curtis and she's like was shaking her head.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
No, like m.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And then I woke up because someone pulled my wig off,
And then I woke up. Did you Joe please, if
somebody in dreams, please tell me what that means? Is
it just Jamielee Curtis trying to advertise Activia to me? Like,
what is happening here?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Why am I hurtings?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yes, that sounds like one of the most interesting nine
to elevens I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh no, I hadn't realized that I had that dream
on nine to eleven. Uh yeah, I guess technically it
was nine ten because I posted that at nine oh
five in the morning on nine to eleven. I immediately
went there and was like, I cannot forget this weird,
this weird Jamie Lee Curtis dream that I had.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Well, you know what they say, never forget.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah. Oh oh, we've got a collar in the queue.
All right, Hello, you're on with Strange Talk. Hey, Hi,
do you have a story about a premonition or deja vu?
I was just talking about a very strange dream I
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had if you've got a very strange dream as well.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Oh yeah, well I definitely have had deja vo before
also with dreams, Yeah yeah, mine. I mean they've like
started when I was a kid, really, but I've also
have always experienced strange stuff and you know, like hat
(17:42):
Man like that type of stuff. But with deja vu,
it was just kind of centered around school and like
interactions in school interactions. Yeah, like kind of more what
I would believe to be mundane things. But I don't know, like, uh,
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oddly enough, like one year, my school actually moved. We
moved from one location to another, so upon like reflection,
I kind of think it was maybe like about the
environment and like the physical place of moving, and they
it's like associated with that and something being picked up
(18:26):
on like energy shifting. But I had this weird dream
that was way before we even moved. It was like
probably you know, months and month prior. It was before
I knew that the school was moving, because it was
a kind of last minute thing. And I had this
(18:47):
dream where I'm walking up to this strange building and
I'm going to school, and I don't know where anything is,
but I walk in and I figure it out and
I have to like classroom sit up, and the classroom's weird,
this giant room with like shelves kind of dividing it,
and it was just really bizarre and come to you,
starting junior high school. I get out of the car.
(19:11):
We're at the new location, and as them walking down
the sidewalks, I like start remembering the stream that I
had and I'm experiencing it in real time. It's kind
of just like outer body experience. Which did you experience
that when you had Daja vu?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, it's sort of not necessarily out of body, but
sort of that feeling of things just feeling so surreal
because you kind of know what's happening and you can't
stop it for.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Me exactly, yeah, okay, yeah, because I was wondering if
it was like the same type of experience where it
was like, okay, I know that this specific thing is
going to happen.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, and it did.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
And like, granted, you know, this is me going into
junior highe and that can seem like pretty predictable, but
mind you, it was two school sharing a giant building. Yeah,
nothing was actually up to like a standard at that point.
Everyone was just figuring it out and I was handed
a map and like to get to this classroom. And
(20:13):
I get to my homeroom and it has a giant
It has exactly as I dreamed it, a giant like
array of shelves to divide a room so that one
side could be English class and the other could be science.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Wow, that is really cool.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Yeah, it's not fancy, no, no fancy tarps, just a
bunch of like huge shelves that were separating from a
giant room. And I had no idea, Like I just
was walking along and going with it, and the whole
time I'm just freaking out of like, oh my god,
I had this dream like this is what the dream
(20:53):
was was so that I wouldn't feel as nervous on
my first day in this new environment. And that was
like one of the days were like for me, like
strange phenomenon really clicked. I had other things happen, but
I didn't know that it could be like that mundane
almost like there was interest and like fascination in something
(21:15):
seemingly mundane. Yeah, like, oh I can even experience something
weird when it comes to finding my homeroom, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of hopeful too, of being
like Hey, let me show you, you know what homeroom
is going to look like.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yeah, Like, it's definitely interesting. I personally feel like Dajevo
has a lot to do with like alignment. You know,
we talk about like certain realities or being in certain
planes of existence, but I feel like deja vu is
as fine from whatever the universe planes. I don't know.
(21:54):
It could be from a sentience being whatever it may be,
showing me that you're like in that alignment of what
you're supposed to experience.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, creature, creature. Have I ever told you about how
I learned to whistle? Okay, so scratch my I said
before the weirdest deja vous or premonition or whatever you
want to call this I ever had was I learned
to whistle through a dream. I had been trying to
(22:28):
learn for like a year and I just could not
figure it out. I was like, why isn't this working?
And I had a dream that someone taught me how
to whistle, and I woke up and I was like,
what are the odds? Let me try that? And it worked.
What they showed me in my dream worked, And that's
how I learned to whistle. Is I learned it through
(22:49):
a dream, which is the weirdest possible saying it's your fault.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
We're in the timeline that we're in. I do.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't know that I taught myself. Something taught me,
but it came to me in a dream, which is
the most beautifully ominous phrase.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
What were you whistling?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What was that?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
What time of day were you whistling? How did you
learn how to whistle? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
In my dream? It was it was daytime and I
was standing in uh my dad's driveway and it was
really bright and sunny out.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Oh okay, yeah, so no whistling at night, you know,
just to year me thinking of some Navajo DNA stuff
with the US.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I learned how to whistle and a dream.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, it terrifying.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
All.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yeah, there are a lot of like indigenous like anthologies
on not whistling at night.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, so I'm glad that I was not taught to
learn how whistle at night in my dream. And I
didn't try it until the morning either, So yeah, I
have no idea how, but that's how I learned to whistle.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Yeah, with a little ditty for us.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Uh let me uh, I can't think of a song
to whistle.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh my god, alignment.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Oh where did where did you get the message to
call in at I'm curious.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
So I'm actually pals with uh with one of the
hosts here.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You can take a guess which one creature. Yeah. I
messaged a bunch of people being like, hey, we set
up our call in line if you have a story
about DejaVu or premonition, just to see who might have
some fun stories. That's why I figured we'd pick a
fun topic tonight.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yeah, that's the like first memory I have about like
significant deja vu where I was like, Okay, this is
a thing that I've experienced like in little bits before,
but this was the first time where I could fully
recognize in real time that it was happening. When it
comes to like premonitions, I don't know, I feel like
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they can be kind of interpreted a little bit different
other than like clear visions. I feel like I've definitely
experienced things where I've felt sensations which I've talked to
you about before, which I kind of feel, you know,
maybe could could be instinctive premonitions rather than a full visions. Yeah,
(25:44):
there's been a lot of crazy, crazy, crazy coincidences where
I could feel that something was going to happen before
it happened, and gotten out of some really almost tragic
situations or survived them because of it. So it's yeah,
it's wild.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That is really wild. Do you practice dream interpretation at all?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
A little bit? Yeah, just because of my natural interest, Yeah,
with like psychology and being raised by like a psychiatric
nurse and like behavioral psychologist. Yeah, it's like kind of
naturally got passed down to me. But yeah, I like
Sam Froyd, I like sm Froid.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah I was. I don't know if I told you
about the dream I recently had about Jamie Lee Curtis,
but that's what I was talking about before. Right before
you called, Uh, I'll give you the quick recap. Met
some old classmates. We decided we were going to become
sky pirates. Jamie Lee Curtis was there for some reason,
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and we were like, cool, we're gonna go to this playground.
Just ment to the playground. I don't know. She did
not talk the whole time. She would only nod or
shake her head. It was like current Jamie Lee Curtis too.
She had the glasses on and the short like silver hair.
(27:17):
The seasons kept changing during my dream, and at the
end I ended up at this this Halloween party and
someone pulled my wig off while Jamie Lee Curtis was
shaking her head. And then I woke up.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
And it is you needed more Activita.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That was exactly my reaction was. I was like, what
is this? Are they beaming Activita commercials right to my brain?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Now you did leave out which mystical day it was on.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Uh yeah, I had this this dream on nine to eleven,
and I as soon as I woke up at nine
o five in the morning, I went to we have
this running dream journal, and I immediately posted it in
there so I can go back and find all my
time stance of when I had these weird dreams. I
have another one in here. I was like on some
(28:10):
competition show. It was like an acting show, and so
I had to do this scene as an alien. So
this makeup artist was like trying to do this alien
makeup on me, and she was like smoking a cigarette
in one of those long cigarette holders, and she just
kept telling me Mav and Jade are your colors? Mav
and Jade are your colors? Well, just putting glitter all
(28:30):
over me, and I woke up and was like, I
don't know what to make of that either.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yeah, you were supposed to be a d actually, I
mean yeah, I think that like that one, that one
I would read more into.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
The right.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That one. I don't even know what to begin to
read into that one. Uh So while she was doing that,
I did get to see one of the other people
doing their like acting challenge thing was doing this like
fantasy drama scene and there was some magic amulet and
when I look closer at it, it was just straight
up like five marbles wire wrapped together. And I was
looking at it like, that's not like a real amulet.
(29:19):
And then that's when I woke up. So that was
the full dream.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I could take. I analyze the like crap out of
this dream.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Okay, do you want to do you want to take
a crack at it? Do you want to tell me what?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Sadly take a crack at plase? So as for the
makeup in your dream, when you're getting your makeup done
for this like big acting class, this performance, I think
that's about masking. I think that's about how a voice
maybe in your mind is telling you that you need
(29:53):
to be more grounded given the colors that were being
described as greens and shade. Okay about grounding yourself, but
the fact that they look like glitter, I think that's
how you mask yourself to put on the show. Be
a mirror, be reflected, be bright, maybe be a little distracting.
(30:14):
And talking about an amulet and you looking at it
and seeing only like marbles on a string. I think
that that's about one there are. There are a couple
of interpretations of that. I think you lost marble that
you have, but in a more like not fun and
(30:36):
funny sense of maybe like a loss of imagination and
like positivity.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, because I will say the girl that was acting
in this was absolutely crushing it. But then I just
looked down and was like, Oh, they gave you like
the cheapest looking amulet when you were just like killing this.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Yeah. I think it's kind of about maybe at the
time that you were having this dream about you masking
and not feeling like you were grounded and who you
were and that you had something to kind of prove,
and that's why you couldn't kind of get lost in
the immersion of the actual act itself, was because you
were focusing on the act of what you were presenting
(31:19):
to yourself and to the every day rather than the
actual like grand performance. Okay, okay, that would be like
at least at least in this like for five minutes.
That's what I would take away.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah right, yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
What is the significance of the haggard old like makeup
artists would taking big drags on a cigarette. I'm curious
about that aspect.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
So I would say, well, given that it's like an
older person, I would say that that's probably maybe like
an old version of yourself that you see, or it
could be someone that you viewed as someone who was
wise or like maybe even not even maybe not even wise,
(32:12):
because in your dream you didn't interpret that as like
sage advice but rather babbling. So maybe it could be
someone that us in the opposite, because I do think
that there's interpretation there. But given that they were like
smoking a cigarette in your face and I know that
you're not fond of that, I think that it's it's
(32:32):
why where it's coming from someone that maybe you wouldn't respect,
and maybe that's an old version of yourself, or maybe
that's someone that you know who's giving you unwarranted advice
about masking and claiming to know the real you while
making you up to be someone.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That you aren't.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Uh to clarify she was. She was not old and haggard.
She was just like that, very like stereotypical, like glamorous
smoking a cigarette where it was like dolling these are
Ya collas like that kind of Yeah, it's not a
haggard but very much as well.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Then if you viewed for as glamorous, then yeah, I
would kind of say that.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
That's like.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
A version of yourself that maybe you aspired to or
maybe that was your true self at the time, because
I do think it was about masking and presenting who
you were and versus what you were, like inner conflict essentially.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
A dreams trying to tell me something about hosting a
radio show. Maybe, yeah, because I mean part of hosting
a radio I yes, absolutely, part of hosting a radio
show is you know, masking, it's having to present, it's
having to host. Yeah, maybe my dream is trying to
(33:47):
tell me that the show needs more glitter.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I approve.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
But also, why am I picturing like exclusively Kate Bush
being the one that's like like hounds of love Kate Bush.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yes, I love Kate Bush.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
See the only the only music video I have a
frame rovers for Kate Bush is the Leathering Heights.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Okay, which version? There's two versions of that music video
and that's important.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
The a serial one where she's prancing around.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The one in the red dress in the woods that
checked out. Yeah, yes, yes, that one's the best one.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Also, if you heard that noise, that was my bad.
I may have hung a Scooby Doo key chain from
the mic stand, and I don't know why I did
that because I keep hitting it.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well, all road lead to Scooby Doo.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's true, you know, Scooby Doo. Where are you?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I believe it was Plato that I asked that, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I either Plato or Socrates, I don't remember which.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I would just saying I wish I could remember my
dreams enough to like ask you to interpret them. But
the only dreams I remember are so unpleasant that I
really don't feel like it'd be a good fit for
the vibe.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Well yeah, yeah, I mean I like. My interest for
like dream interpretation came from having nightcars after some like
not fun trauma as a child, and then also with
profession and wanting to understand why I was having night
cares and what those could represent, you know, which in
(35:39):
my case was not wanting, not being mature enough to
deal with trauma one and you know that manifesting in
that way because the subconscious is funny. And that's why
I do think that there is some like actual you know,
validity as you dream interpretation, because they do think it
(36:02):
kind of dials back most of the time to just
undealt withss uh trauma and oppressed emotion.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well, you you and I have talked about this before.
It's sort of how I viewed terror reading as well.
Where kind of how you interpret it is kind of
the important part. So if you were having dreams about
you know, constantly being late to class or the classic
like your naked in class dream and you feel stressed
(36:34):
about it's it's probably you're having a less stress from class.
That makes sense.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah, Yeah, it like goes you know, you know, you
can't have one without the other. Yeah, there's about once
things there there is a like shadow and a light
to like everything I was going.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
If we can get to the psychology behind She's.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Nancy tyromancy is the proper romancy? Have you heard of tyromancy.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Tyromancy isn't that You can correct me if I'm wrong,
But isn't that something that could be considered pretty unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You're entirely spot on there, Okay, all.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Right, yeah, I was glad I weren't for it.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I was really I was like, are you about to
say something completely off the wall of like, oh, isn't
that this? And it was like something really strange? But no,
you just absolutely nailed it first either.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Oh goodness, well, isn't isn't she's mostly calcium? Like I
don't know how science works, but I assume that's true.
That's the same as reading bones, right, you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Heard it here first? Cheese is the same as reading bones.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
I mean, I feel like you can use any tool
to be spiritual and to use as a like psychological
metaphor and kind of like evaluation. I mean, actual psychologists
lead toys, and there's various like properties, puzzles, pictures, I mean,
(38:38):
like the ink Blat test, Like I think that there
is like oddly, you know, an actual like you know,
I get it in that sense, Like I read Taro
and I've used the like what do you mean game
to read Taro before it's It's just another tool, except
(39:02):
that one happens to go really well with balsamic vinaigrette.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
If you've ever done tea leaf reading, you don't have
to do that with tea. You can do it with
a can of spaghettios if you try hard enough, and
I have. I am a huge fan of using spaghettios
for witchcraft because I think it's really funny.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
I mean, I was gonna say, like, alphabet.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Soup, alphabet.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
See to me, that's opening too many doors with some
terrifying stuff.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Oh use alphabet.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, like how do you how do you close a
can of soup?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
How do you close the can of soup?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You eat it? You just eat. At that point you'd
be like, all right, by spirits, I'm going to eat
the letters.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Can Can I bring up the Patreon ideas, Alex?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Maybe maybe let's let's wait on that, since we haven't
made any of that official yet.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Oh I I was just thinking about, can I tell
one of my ideas?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
We talk about what we're what we're thinking to do,
and people can tell us if they're interested in it.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Let's do that, okay?
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I was thinking as a monthly reward, Alex uh is
well versed in various forms of uh future reading. I
feel like there's a better word, thank you. Yeah, there's not.
He'll be word for it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, future reading.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
And yeah, and I was thinking I'm not proficient in
any of that, but if people would like I can
tell their future with the magic eight ball.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yes, I do actually keep now a tiny cauldron shaped
magic eight ball in my car because sometimes you can't
make decisions while driving where you're like should I stop
at this gas station or wait for the next one?
You just shake your little car magic eight ball and
it gives you an answer. And that is how we
decided what gas stations to stop at on the way
back from mack Manfest.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Nice, Yeah, highly recommend if you are as a decisive
as I am.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I found one that looks like an eyeball, and I
thought that that was pretty sick.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
That is pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yeah, you know what would random suggestion? What there was
an st magic eight ball online?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Oh, like a like a virtual magic eight ball.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, oh that would be fun.
Speaker 8 (42:10):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'd have to think on how to make that, but
I think that is possible.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
You could come up with some real creative future reading.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, I actually want to make you remember those fortune
tellers that we used to make as a kid that
you would fold.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Oh absolutely, yeah, I don't know what the technical that
work today.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
See, I want to make us a strange talk one.
I'm not sure exactly how to go about that yet,
but I loved those so much as a kid, and
I'm like, why don't I play with those more as
an adult because that would be really fun. Oh yeah, yes,
I want to make a strange truck one at some
point and then just make it so people can put
them off and fold them. But I have to remember
(42:56):
how to make those, because I don't remember how to
fold them. I used to be so good at it
as a kid, but it's one of those skills you
lose if you're if you're not using it, it's bad.
And drawing, Yeah, luckily, that one I've kept up with,
but not so much the folding things. Any of the
(43:16):
like I don't know if it would be called patty cake,
any of those, like song things like I don't remember
any of those from back in the day. I remember
the words, but.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Not Yeah, like the like Children's Ryan mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, I remember those, but yeah, it's it's weird. The
things that you remember from childhood.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Say, why are those always the things that are the
most unsettling.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
To us because they're mostly based from like European hordes.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, and also kids are weird and creepy honestly.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Like my favorite TV show as a kid was Couraged
the Cowardly Dog, And I don't know how my parents
didn't look at that and go, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 6 (44:08):
It was the nineties, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And then I guess in the early two thousands there
was worse stuff going on so.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Here.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, that's uh what a magical time to be alive.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
Yeah, oh yeah, I mean we had we had Rocko's
Modern Life, also a.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Super weird show that was very fun and very strange.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Or like a real monster. You remember that one.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I loved that show. The one guy, the one guy
that would walk around with his eyeballs in his hands,
like not in them, like just holding them. And then
the stripey goth candy cane lady. Yeah yeah, I don't
remember any of their names.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Oh I gotta actually figures of both of those characters
right here. Nice Obina Oblina was the candy cane one.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah. There we go.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
Yeah, myame was my face was Zimbo because Tim Curry.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah yeah, really, I did not know that.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
Yeah, Zimbo had some extra flair that's wild.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I think was the other one, right, the Goblins?
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I how did any of that get
approved and past censors?
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Like?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't think they would air that stuff today?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Oh definitely no.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Then again, Animaniacs had really some raunchy jokes in there
that made it past the censors somehow.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
So yeah, goodness, Yeah, it's pretty fascinating. I was gonna say, I,
you know, you know what hits? Those good childhood memories, though,
I think maybe helped all of us become the people
we are. What is Unsolved Mysteries my favorite childhood show.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I still to this day. I will watch an episode
and get to the end and be like, what do
you mean there's not an answer? What do you mean
it's unsolved? Because I want to as.
Speaker 8 (46:27):
Well.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Some of them get updated later, but some of them don't,
and they just remain a mystery forever, and I can't
handle that.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Well, one thing I've learned is they've only gotten updated
to a certain point. Then I think that the rights
holder stopped here. Yeah, because I've seen one or two
that were like unsolved that look. Oh no, it's like
a full confession and everything, like thirty years later. So
(46:56):
I thank god for Google. I guess did they try
to remake.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
That they are, No, they're still making episodes.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
It's actually the like first season. I really enjoyed. It
was pretty good. Yeah, I mean like unsolved mysteries. I
think of like, uh, Circleville, like the Circleville writer.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
I'm not familiar with Ville.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
I don't so like, uh, growing up in the Midwest,
it was the thing. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
The uh.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Is that like a show or no.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
So in Circleville, in Circleville, Ohio, where my home states,
there were in like I think in the seventies, like
mid seventies, people just started randomly getting strange letters that
super personal detail their lives.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
The first major incident of like something like that happening.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, I know the Stephen King story based off that.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know I remember that,
you know, even being relevant when I was a kid
and hearing about it. But they did an episode on it.
I think they revisited it a few times.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, that's that's wild.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah, very interesting. Yeah, they know there was a Stephen
King story about that that I thought it was pretty good.
I believe at the end of the King story they
found out who is responsible for it. It was a
it was a little old lady. I thought it was
(49:00):
a pretty cool to do that to her neighbors. Yeah,
it's pretty good stuff. That's kind of terrifying though. Yeah,
I've always god, just imagine that it would be so like.
Speaker 8 (49:20):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
That's why I live off grid and a little cap.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
That's why some days I dream about going going out
into the woods and just becoming one with the moss.
Speaker 6 (49:36):
With becoming encrypted of your own.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I think all people that work in it feel that way.
We deal with computers so much that when we are
not working, we just want to become one with the earth,
whether that means literally or figuratively, one with the king.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
As the makeup artist, just.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Mob and Jade there your colors.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
Exactly know what you're talking about. All this time, I've been.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Like, I've genuinely been thinking about that since then, where
I'm like, why MOV and Jade, there's such like they're
oddly specific, and I do like those colors.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Well, that's why your brain launched onto them because you
like those colors.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
They're not like my favorite though.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Oh but here's the thing. Is it is it that
they uh that your brain registers them on a level
that your conscious mind does them.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
They have some significance, not any that I can think of,
But you never, maybe it's not Maybe maybe maybe I'm
just not ready for that knowledge yet. Maybe maybe maybe
it will reveal itself in time, and I'll have to
do an update on here about I figured out what
the mob and the jade means.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yeah, I don't even know what that first color is.
I'm gonna be mov.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
It's like it's a really pretty color. It's kind of
like a purpleish pink.
Speaker 6 (51:14):
Yeah, it's kind of like how would you could describe.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
I guess it's more of a pinkish purple.
Speaker 6 (51:22):
It's it's kind of like have you seen like, do
you know what Stara flowers are?
Speaker 8 (51:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Oh wow, we're way out of my wheelhouse right now.
Speaker 6 (51:34):
They're kind of like it's close I would say to
like lavender.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Almost like yeah, if you mix lavender with a light pink,
and then it just made it like it's like it's
a very like dusty color too.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
Yeah, it's a dusty lavender.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Well, it's interesting that your brain lash on like two
like I guess oddly kind of earth toneish ethereal colors,
if that makes any sense, Yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
That's like not normally my colors at all. So maybe, honestly,
maybe my brain's just trying to give me fashion advice.
Speaker 6 (52:11):
I might do that, or like the stone like jade,
if you get into crystals like spiritual meaning, Jade's supposed
to be because like jade is like a pretty like
anciently involved crystals and like various cultures and like organized
(52:31):
religions and beliefs, especially in the East, but it's supposed
to like signify like with some tranquility and opportunity and balance,
So you know, maybe it could be on that side
of things in those things.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I looked up what the color MAV is supposed to
symbolize symbolize, and it says MAV gives off fel lings
of romance, sentimentality, youth, and nostalgia, and it's often associated
with decadence.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I feel like those are both very like decadent colors.
Speaker 7 (53:13):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Mean one of the literal gemstone isn't that that's pretty decadent?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, interesting?
Speaker 3 (53:22):
What is the What is the spiritual significance of jade?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Jade is it's often associated with like the heart chakra,
so it's also sort of related to compassion and love
as well as prosperity and good luck because obviously it's
a green color and so green has to mean that.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
But yeah, what do you dream about gravel? What does
that say about you?
Speaker 6 (53:51):
That about gravel?
Speaker 7 (53:53):
Yeah, I would day probably h are you like eating
it or are you just like in your dreams in general, you're.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
Just being gravel or experiencing it in like some visceral way.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
I'm just I'm just vibing with the gravel, staring down
at it. It's staring back into me, just you know,
just living life.
Speaker 6 (54:21):
I would say that that, well, gravel is the place
that usually is like laid down, you know, for I
think of like parking lots and cars off the beaten path. Yeah,
so I see it as like a rest or rest
before adventure or rest before experiencing something. That would be
(54:44):
like interpretation.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I would also think just because gravel is so like
it's like rocky and slippery, I think it for me,
it would also be sort of like a tread carefully
in some ways.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
I would say it's like similar to almost like the hermit,
and of like gather your bearings before you continue with
whatever you're going to experience.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, I think that's a good interpretation.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Y oh versed.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
We're also already at the end of the show. When
did this happen? We did not mean to keep you
this long, But thank you for calling us and joining
us and talking to us about tarot and premonitions and
spaghettios and gravel all the important things in life.
Speaker 6 (55:36):
Oh all the major yeah points, yes.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yes, all right, Well, I guess we're gonna go ahead
and sign off from a strange talk for the night.
That was a quick one. Uh yeah, so good night.
Speaker 8 (55:51):
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Speaker 5 (58:06):
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Speaker 2 (58:30):
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