November 6, 2025 • 59 mins
This week on Strange Talk, Alyx, Vayne, and Ginelle are back with a science fiction, double feature of open lines and weird news. And things get wonderfully strange from the start, we’re joined by our friend Michael Midnight, who calls in to give us the scoop on his show’s brand new time slot (catch him at 9pm like us but on Tuesdays). From there, we tumble headfirst into the weird and the wacky: what could Stephen King and Mambo No. 5 possibly have in common? Why does one man believe Stephen King was John Lennon's true killer?
Then it’s off to the stars as we explore the latest cosmic curiosities, including reports of space tornadoes, eerie faces appearing in solar imagery, the Atlas comet, and a lively debate over our favorite moons of Jupiter.
Between listener calls, news from the edges of science, and the usual Strange Talk chaos, it’s an episode that swings from the supernatural to the celestial and back again. Grab your headphones, settle in, and get ready for another night of open lines, wild theories, and out-of-this-world conversation.
Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Into by Star Silk, Night of the Creeps by Karl Casey, and backing tracks by LoFiGeek.
Then it’s off to the stars as we explore the latest cosmic curiosities, including reports of space tornadoes, eerie faces appearing in solar imagery, the Atlas comet, and a lively debate over our favorite moons of Jupiter.
Between listener calls, news from the edges of science, and the usual Strange Talk chaos, it’s an episode that swings from the supernatural to the celestial and back again. Grab your headphones, settle in, and get ready for another night of open lines, wild theories, and out-of-this-world conversation.
Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Into by Star Silk, Night of the Creeps by Karl Casey, and backing tracks by LoFiGeek.
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Speaker 1 (01:27):
Good evening, and welcome to the hour dedicated to talking
about things strange, weird and paranormal. You're listening to Strange
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The intro track to this episode in most of our
episodes is the Strange Talk intro by Star Silk. I'm
(01:47):
your host, Alex, and hopefully we have Vain and Janelle
with us again.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Now I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You're here, Janelle? Are you with us?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Silence?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Silence, Oh Janelle, we don't hear you. That is strange. Well, Janelle,
while you're working on that, we'll go ahead and take
our first caller because we're doing open lines tonight. We
fared we kick off season five with a little open
lines because it's been a little while.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Good. Good evening, now, how.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Are you good evening? I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm goodness with Michael Midnight from AI f vidy eight
point three f M.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yes, a little little radio on radio.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Here, just wanted to call to see hi. We don't
have to do a story. Uh, just doing a relaunch
since last time I talked to you, I finally have
a better hour now I'm nine to ten pm on
Tuesday nights. Uh yeah, really not the witching hour nine pm.
By considering I was getting up going to work for
(03:03):
last nine ten months with two hours of sleep, It's
better than just leading the show. Yeah, and I have
to give it up, so I get open lines this
week to kind of reintroduce people because my first six
seven months were two am to four am Wednesday night
going into Thursday morning, which not you know, they're gonna
(03:23):
have a huge ton of listeners at those hours. And
he got a little bit better with Thursday morning into
Friday night from twelve to two and now Tuesday to
nine pm. I'm just hoping to get a better audience.
So I'm just kind of redoing, I said, doing a relaunch.
I mean, I got it. Now. I have a co
host with me now, so I've ever had two hours
than one. But like I said, it is better than nothing,
(03:46):
so God, I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah. And I mean obviously we like nine pm. That's
our time slot too, so.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, yeah, So I'm just hoping to uh just hoping
to the you know, slowly was surely get a larger
base of listeners out there as the post of the
hours I had when I first got the show. Next
month i'll be on a full year, so it's real quick.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah. Wow, that's great though. I'm glad you got to
more conducive to sleep time slot for you.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Honestly, being at nine TM, I'm hoping more people listening
as well. I didn't see you, but I was at
the ext scripted block party Huggington.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, I missed you. There was it was
a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah it was. I really liked it. Uh yeah, it
was more people and I thought, so that's cool that,
you know, there's more stuff around the Cincinnati area like
this up the street in Loveland where I met you
at the Frog Day festival, and now this over at Covington.
So hopefully that's trend to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun. Well, I'm glad
you called in and Happy Halloween.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Happy with you, And if you want to call, I
will have open lines next Tuesday at nine TM, so
if you act some time, you can call in. We'll
be there nine to ten next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Awesome. I definitely will I'll talk to you next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I have a good night.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Thanks you too. Thanks awesome. Well that was our first
call in of the night. Ah, Janelle should be reconnecting
in a minute. Always technical difficulty is it has chosen
Janelle instead of you this week? Vain. Yeah, that's just
(05:32):
the way it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Goes, connecting, disconnecting, connecting.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Honestly though, I mean who needs to connect? Yeah, but
while we were waiting for Janelle to be able to reconnect,
I open the wrong thing. We can talk about a
little bit of weird news.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I'm still stuck on the space tornado.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The space tornado. Yeah, actually, do you want to talk
about the space tornado?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I haven't got into really hot. I like that I've
been scrolling up on this on these lovely news articles
that I uh, you know, I'm always drawn away by
space things and then tornadoes. You know, that's just too
many of my interests combined in the one. Yeah. I
mean this is all the way back in the beginning
of October. Yeah, it's weird and slightly old news.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let me see, I just saw that they found a
like a spooky jack of Lantern face in the sun
just in time. For Halloween.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I mean that just means the Sun's, you know, dressing
up the parent.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's going.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
We better give it candy too, or else it might
decide to destroy us.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
How do we give it candy? Do we just shoot
it into space?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah? Yeah, like a little missile launcher, like a little
uh yeah, like I don't know, uh yeah, like a
space ship, but just full of candy. I hear that
the Sun is really into tootsy rolls, so maybe just
give it a few tootsy rolls.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's what we have to do with all of them.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's a bunch of tootsi rolls. Let me see here. Okay,
So the space tornadoes are just like part of the
storms that already happen obviously, I mean that makes sense.
(07:43):
But they can they can still mess with the Earth.
So that's something.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
What do they do? They do they create tornadoes on Earth? No,
that was.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Like, what do you mean? Yes, the space tornadoes they
actually prompt us to get tornadoes.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's that's exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Now. It says that they can harm our electrical grids
in our digital systems, depending on like how strong they are,
so like just basically a solar storm. But cooler, you know,
because it's a tornado.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah. Hello, hello, Oh we have Janelle, yeah vain talking
about the season of a technical difficulty talking about the
tornadoes summon Janelle.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I I'm here.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well we were talking about space tornadoes Janelle and launching
Tipsy Rolls into the Sun.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah. Yeah, because the Sun is dressed up for Halloween,
so we got to give it a treat for dressing up.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh my gosh, I love it. M hm.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Also I like about that anything Mambo number five is
in here, Alex, because that's one of my favorite Lord
did this favorite thing?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh oh oh. That was one that actually we weren't
recording during so even like when we're not recording, I
send like all of our weird news articles to one
discord chap. Sorry you all for the notifications on that.
My bad. But yeah, so we haven't gotten to talk
about that, So let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Oh my gosh, listen, maybe maybe we should go back
to it because I just talked about space tornadoes and
it should be someone else's turn, but it is Stephen King,
and I feel like that's kind of my that's that's
kind of my territory.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I can't let me pull it. Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Oh my gosh, I feel like it would be unfair
for me to go from space tornadoes, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I and hard curve ball. I'm in this article, the
one that I pulled up. I don't know that it's
that one. This this art was actually from September six,
twenty twenty three, but it cracked me up so much
I had to talk about. It's from Variety and the
title of it is Stephen King played Mambo number five
so much his wife written to divorce him one more
(10:02):
time and I'm going to effing leave you. And this
was written by.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That when he was which book was he writing?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Holly?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, yeah, it's said Holly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yes, it was Holly Holly's newest one. No, yes, he
was promoting it. Yeah, okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Gosh, which book was it?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It wasn't The Shank Redemption hold On, because it was
it was post Stephen King doing cocaine. And I'm pretty
sure he number five specifically, because it gave the same
effect of the main the.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Cocaine like I was kind of the second.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I will say that.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
As somebody that writes that it does work, not the
cocaine parts, the momb on number five part.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Oh he was writing eleven twenty two sixty three, his
twenty eleven novel about a time traveler. That's what it was.
So you know what really makes me think of Mambo
number five the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Oh gosh, I'm just imagining at John F. Kennedy's funeral,
the guy who made Mama number five was thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Lou Bega was there? Actually was he?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
No, I'm totally making that.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I have no idea how old that guy is.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He's I believe lou Bega is a German singer. Maybe yeah,
he's a German singer.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
That is not I mean, it is, it is, but
it isn't what I expected. I'm like, he was not
allowed assassination.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Okay, but's book is about time traveling, so obviously lou
Bega time travel to go to JFK's funeral.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Duh.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Have you ever seen him in at lou Bega and
John F. Kennedy in the same room.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Actually, one of my favorite conspiracy theories we've ever talked
about on Here was this guy in Florida who is
convinced that, oh gosh, what's his name? The guy who
killed John Lennon they're convinced it's Stephen King just because
they vaguely look alike. So this guy has this whole
campaign against Stephen King because he's like, he looks just
(12:29):
like the guy who shot John Lennon. And I'm like,
what I mean, have you ever.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Seen John Lennon Stephen King in the same room?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I sure haven't. Where's JFK?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And all this? I want to know, I'm misimagining Stephen
King reading Catcher in the Rye and then immediately reverting
to the desire to kill John Lennon.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That'd be crazy. Maybe not maybe not crazy as we think,
but that would be crazy. Oh my goods.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I mean, there's lots of weird news here, but I
was still focused on the tornado that I like. I
don't really look.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
At any of the other thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Did you say you had more?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It was just explaining how they form. But it's a
lot of science stuff, and I'm no scientist. I just like,
I just like the concept, well of a space tornado.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Get on it and become a scientist.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I want listen, if I was moren like two hundred
years later, I'd be out there storm chasing.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But in space future that is, that's what the next
thing state that there.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Won't be storm chasers.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
No, no, no, the next Twister sequel needs to be
Twister in space.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Let's not started. Let's not start a Sharknado thing with
space tornadoes.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Please, But like, what if they handle it really well
to get the science in there.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, if they can get the science in there, I'm
on board that I might have a line if it's
just like you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Know, I mean, that's what I really respected because like,
the Twisters was fine, it wasn't anything amazing. But what
I really respected about it was they corrected in the
first Twister movie when they hit under the underpass, that's
actually one of the worst things you can do. So
they made that. Like the whole like beginning part of
Twisters was to be like, hey, don't do that, You'll die.
(14:31):
And I was like, great, I love that you all
like really fixed that because you know, that was the problem.
I don't know if anybody died taking that advice, but
I'm sure it did not work out great for people
who unfortunately took that advice.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And a lot of people still do it. Yep, a
lot of people still do it, and.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You shouldn't because if you go into an underpass during
a towny though. It basically acts like you know how Chicago,
it's all windy because it's all being squeezed through those passages.
It basically acts like a suction and it will just
you write out from under the pass. Yeah. So yeah,
if you did not watch Twisters, here you go. Don't
do it. I just saved you watching the whole.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
If you want to talk about some more weird news, though,
I got one here that says most Americans say they
have experienced at least one paranormal event. Apparently. I mean,
there was a poll on you gov asking Americans about
(15:35):
their paranormal experiences, and most people said they've had at
least one paranormal experience, and many believe that they personally
have paranormal ability. So it says about sixty percent of
Americans say they've had at least one of thirteen paranormal experiences,
slightly down from sixty seven percent in October of twenty
twenty two. So we're getting a little less paranormal or
(15:56):
people are a little less willing to admit it.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, I've got some more here if you want it.
Among the thirteen different experiences asked, about one of them
was a feeling feeling a presence or unknown energy that's
thirty five percent, Smelling an unexplained odor that's thirty two percent,
Hearing an unexplained sound or music thirty one percent, hearing
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the voice of someone who wasn't there twenty six percent,
feeling an unexplained change in temperature twenty six percent. Not
too many people said they've seen a demon. That was
only seven percent, seeing unexplained smoke nine percent, or seen
an angel ten percent.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Why does it have to be a demon? Why can't
it just be a thing?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
They just wanted some specifics, I guess, But how do
you know it's a demon? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They considered that.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Maybe the reason that number so low is because they
they're saying demon instead of.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Discussing, oh well, because like if someone's going to see
something like that, they're not going to know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, I just think that
the demon parts a little strange. You know, we've all
I guess, Yeah, I guess I'm theory if they're able
to distinguish an angel, I mean I guess they could, right, right,
that's kind of like, yeah, I think I think we
got some moorry lines.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
People walking down the street every day. Does that make
them angels or are they ahements?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It depends on how you feeling that day.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, some of them have like nine billion eyes. But
you know they do tell me, be not afraid, and.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So I'm not. You're like you like, you know, yeah,
I would not.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm something's wrong with me. I'd be like, I'm I'm afraid.
You said be not afraid, and that makes me afraid. Actually,
mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
The eyes are comforting, and especially when they're on the
spinning wheels, you know, really.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The fire spinning wheels specifically. Yes, that's actually thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh man, what weird news do you have?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know, let me see it?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So me, I've been following that comment thirty one, the
one that's also called atlast a lot a lot. Yeah,
I'm following it a lot. Just I was like, you know,
it just pumped into my head every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So you are in space, who is you know, hunting tornadoes.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And to supposedly and that may be causing the tornadoes.
I don't know, yeah, so supposedly. There was like first
they kept calling it like almost like an interstellar body
of some kind was going to be like entering our
Solar system. It apparently like entered yesterday, like the closest
(19:03):
that ever came to earths well yesterday, and everyone was
freaking out about it because some people were like, well,
what if it's an alien space shift because it moves
a little differently than what you would kind of like
naturally expect from a commet. But I think what's fascinating
to me is you do have you know, people from
(19:26):
NASA and other people that are clearly more skilled in
space and maybe space tornadoes who were like, no, I'm
pretty confident it's a comet, but I think we need
to be ready in case it's not. And I'm like,
that's not reassuring. What do you mean And they're like,
you know, You're like, I think humanity needs to be
(19:47):
ready in case there's that low probability that it's aliens.
And I'm like, wow, you all just really threw just
threw that in there, because I just don't think anyone
truly knows too too much.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's very exciting from a standpoint because apparently this thing
is older than of course like the Earth itself, and
and things like that. But it's it's uh, it's just
an interesting following that logic because then everyone's like, as
it gets closer, everyone's like, well, it's moving weird. It's
moving differently, like it's changing course in a way that
like a natural kind of like celestial body wouldn't. And
(20:26):
you have that little hint in the back of your
mind of like it could be aliens. It could I
think that's I think that's kind of cool if it
is a little bit of a weird way for them
to finally show up, I think, But.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But why wouldn't they, like, you know, yeah, make an entrance.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah. Yeah. So that's just what I've been following for
the most part. That's just in my weird news it is.
It's on those things where you know, you click on
one thing and then you start you like fifteen others
other things about it popping up. There is apparently some
people thought it had lights on it or like Japan's
got video footage of it. It was a cruise ship
(21:11):
at night. It was a fake video that you know,
blew up the internet. But we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I saw let me pull it up before I say something.
I don't mean.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, worries.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
That.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Actually, so your comment might be the same video that
I saw, because I saw a bunch of videos from
Russia that they were like, oh my gosh, this looks
like a UFO. But I think it may have just
been your comment. It might have been I'm just curious.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, I'll say, I don't know how visible it is
for us, because most of the stuff like I have
been seeing has been from like a telescope from Chile
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. So so it could be the same thing, or
we could have multiple visitors.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Mm hmm. We could be having multiple visitors. Yeah. So
that's that's just what I've been falling along for the
most part right now. I do you like the concept
of it in a space tornado though? That'd be pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Space tornado is pretty it's a lot. I would a
tornado be better or worse in space?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I mean, so, is it just like happening in space,
like like say, you know the space between us and
like the spide or something. Is it just like there?
Is it just like out there? Or some solar storms?
Oh okay, yeah, all our storms are just out there,
(23:02):
and those cause the space tornadoes.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, I think they're they're based around the Sun though too,
like it's it's all based off of the sun doing sun.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Okay, outside of.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
That, because there's other things that are basically the sun.
You know, the Sun's just one son. But right, I mean,
I don't know what the categories of space tornadoes are.
I don't know if there's an ef space tornado.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
That'd be wild.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I wanted. That's what we have to figure out, honestly,
is the space tornado scale for the future. I'm changing course,
I am now going to try to find that, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But I have been reading and listening to a lot
about hurricanes and tornadoes this week, and they were talking
about how the rating system actually can cause more damage
because then people don't take it as seriously as they should.
So maybe we shouldn't make a rating system for space.
(24:03):
Maybe we should just be very descriptive of what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But counter Alex, if we don't put a rating system
on there, how are we gonna get the weird dudes
hanging out with no shirt on right outside of the sun,
knowing this thing can't stop me, and then they throw
a bottle into.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That is exactly what I was thinking, Oh my.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Goodness, system, the brain people's defenses down, we won't get
good memes.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We gotta we gotta at least come up with like
a really wild waiting wait, wow, waiting waiting system. We're
making these space tornados. Wait, a rating system for space tornados.
It has to be something really wild.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
God, the idea. Honestly, they'll be waiting system. And we're like,
that is at least the three elephants worth of a tornado.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, sorry, hold on, you're gonna have to wait. We
got like a really like there's a big one coming
through right now, and just there's not enough space for
the both of yea.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yea space Did you think you're alone the size of
a space tornado?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I was calling the other tornado the size of a tornado.
I don't know, Okay, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Kind of felt like you were calling someone the size
of a space tornado, and I was calling the.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Other tornado the size of a tornado. So I think
it's fine. I'm sorry to all space tornadoes I've offended.
I don't I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh, I do have a space based war text. Oh
that's fun.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Space based vortex. That's a fun one to say quickly yes, uh,
I have some more weird news for us here. There
has been some drama in Machakos in Kenya as four
people are caught practicing witchcraft near a pall politicians home
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at midnight.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Is you know what they do?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
More?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What part of that is really the problem? Is it
the witchcraft? Is it that midnight? Is it the politician
pal well?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
This article was published by a local news station there
called Tucco on October twenty seventh, and it says four individuals,
including two women and two men, were caught allegedly practicing
witchcraft near politicians home. The group was found at night
with bizarre items commonly associated with witchcraft. Villagers quickly apprehended
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the suspects and questioned them about what they were up
to before the police arrived at the scene and rescued them.
Doesn't clarify whether rescued them meant the people practicing witchcraft
or the other people who were trying to stop the witchcraft.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Sorry, I just okay, but.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh okay, so as we go down, it does clarify more.
Apparently their idea of stopping them was like they straight
up just like formed a mob, so the police had
to come and rescue the people doing witchcraft because the
other people went mob about it.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, I mean politicians were in this hole, just the one.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It was just one. But I guess once they caught
them doing witchcraft, it wasn't the politician that formed the mob.
It was other random people.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I think that Kenya is still a primarily superstitious area.
I agree, especially when I come to that, So it's
not that surprising. I mean, we can make light of it,
but I'm pretty sure that they've done some pretty gruesome stuff.
The people that they believe are witches. I mean, like
it's no different than what you did, but like you know,
(27:58):
like there's there they're doing it. I mean, give us
a few years, we might start doing it again too.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of looking through some of the
comments people had getting.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, there's a whole video that I'm not going to
watch because you can see that they're beaten up, and
I don't like that that is publicly available. But there's
like so many people on the internet who are saying
that they did it to like help get votes for
like that politician, like sympathy votes and I'm like, I
don't think so, mm hmmm. But they do have a
(28:33):
bunch of quotes from people, and one of them that
the top quote that they have in here, says, I
wonder why witches are so poor despite being able to
bewitch money into their lives. I'm like, wow, that's a
good question.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Where's my money?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Uh? Somebody else pointed out that there's no long Kenya
that addresses witchcraft. They might be charged with trespassing. Interesting
it was the governor's residence, by the way, So yeah,
I just thought that was interesting because you don't hear
about that a whole lot these days. It sounds like
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the police question them about what they were doing, but
they didn't really give a lot of clear answers. So
were they even practicing witchcraft or were they just like
hanging out in a bad place.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Right right, chilling by somebody's house, you know, And then
then they're just like, hey, you're chilling by somebody's house,
but you've got a fire in between you or something,
you know, Like.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, right right. Uh. Actually, I if we want to
go very dystopian here, I've got some dystopian articles as well.
I have this one. It's from tech Spot. A high
school student was surrounded by police and handcuffed after AI
(30:02):
mistakes his bag of Dorito's for a gun. Oh you
know what?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I did see that? Yes? I mean, can I say
I'm surprised?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
No, I'm not surprised at all. This article is by
Rob Thubroun. The teenager in question, Taki Allen, is a
sixteen year old high school student at Kentwood High School
in Baltimore County, Maryland. He was sat outside with his
friends after football practice while waiting to be picked up
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last week. About twenty minutes after he finished the bag
of Dorito's he had been eating, around eight police cars
showed up. Officers climbed out of cars and with their
weapons pointing at Alan, told him to put his hands
on his head and walk towards them. The student said
he was then told to get on his knees and
was placed in handcuffs, and the police later confirmed that
he was handcuffed but not arrested. But yeah, the AI
(30:53):
it was his crumpled bag that it mistook as a
firearm and then immediately called the police the sixteen So
the AI, yeah, fantastic, so uh, one officer said, I
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guess just the way you were eating chips, doritos whatever,
it picked it up as a gun. And then another
cop added that AI is not the best, which you think.
What's worse is these school superintendent doctor Miriam Rogers told
reporters that the system worked how it was meant to.
Her quote is, the program is based on human verification,
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and in this case, the program did it was did
what it was supposed to, which was to signal an
alert and for humans to take a look to find
out if there was cause for concern in that moment.
Understandable to have humans check it, but maybe don't have
the cops check it. Maybe have someone go yeah, before
it dials the cops.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That's what I with something I feel like most schools
have so many, at least nowadays, like some form of
like security staff in general. Yeah, why weren't some like
why wouldn't one of them confirm it first, even address
the situation first before the police are called. Yeah, Like
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I mean, like, and I understand if you think there
is a weapon, that is a problem, but again, if
you're basing it only on AI technology, you're gonna get
a lot of false alerts and at some point, the
cops are gonna end up start charging that school for
every time they come out for a false alarm. So
maybe have somebody double checked that before it immediately auto
dials them. Even if you have YES security constantly.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Watching it, right, right, human verification, then a human should
verify before sending in forces. They should look at the
camera feed.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Absolutely, well, because I also wondered too, like if somebody
like were to say, just filed a false report like this,
I get in trouble for it. Absolutely, But because it
is because this is an AI system.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
There's no accountability. There's not a person to blame, like,
no accountability for it.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, exactly, Like there's something that they can do to
be like, hey, watch closer, like I don't know, like
it's I don't know, it's that's so weird.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's why I was saying this is very dystopian.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
They do have another quote from this kid, Alan said,
he you know, it's inside after football practice, as he
does not think it is safe enough to go outside,
especially eating a bag of chips or drinking something. So
that's why I wanted to say this is very dystopian.
It's really messed up with the schools, Like, yeah, the
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process functions it was intended to to prietize safety and
awareness through rapid human verification. That is not the correct
form of human verification. You have scarred this child.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, he was told to get on the ground and
handcuffed and he probably didn't even fully know why in
the moment. I doubt they were explaining it to him. No,
And then he's like, I was just eating a snack, yeah,
which he's probably done hundreds.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Of times before I've met that. Poor Kid's never going
to eat Dorito's ever again.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Probably not. I gives him like a lifetime It's like,
I don't want to say subscription, but you know.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, they should sponsor him, you.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Know what, they should sponsor him for football.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah. Ugh, yeah, So my goodness. Uh, I've got some more.
We can keep going down the dystopian rabbit hole if
you want, because as much as I work in it,
I've got a lot of stuff on why uh, you know,
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everything being smart is not smart. So recently there was
a massive outage of Amazon's web services, and this article
from heart that it took down about a third of
the Internet because a lot of people use it for hosting.
This is one of the the most fascinating things that
I think that it took down. Fascinating. There are more
(35:05):
terrible things that it took down. This is just one
of the most interesting. So this is from Ours Technica.
AWS outage reminds us why two four forty nine dollars
Internet dependent beds are a bad idea? From Sharon Harding.
(35:26):
What is the name of this bed? I just lost
it asleep. Yeah, it's a bed. It's a bed that
connects the internet so you can control the way that
you sleep and the temperature and all that. It's made
by eight Sleep and because it connected to Amazon Web Services,
basically it resulted in people being awoken by beds locked
into inclined positions in sweltering temperatures. And because a TOBS
(35:50):
was down, they couldn't fix it, so they were just
stuck in their you know, tilted up beds, sweating.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Okay, So, like I was really curious about this. I
remember you were telling about this, and I looked it
up a little further because I was like, look of
these things come with remote, right, this one is not crazy? Well,
it does say most pods have onto my buttons, So
listen to this. It still needs the internet.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You use the button, yes, And they did say, hey,
they did say that they're going to fix it with this.
They're gonna make it so you can connect to Bluetooth
to fix it if AWS ever goes down again. But
that should have been a consideration in the first part.
Internet connections are not always going to be reliable.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, sometimes someone has a power outage.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Exactly, and just like, hey, sorry, you're stuck in your bed.
Your bed is now standing up. Good luck. You want
to sleep too bad? No internet?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I could my god, which by the way, I've been
getting that cough from your grandma. That's like, hey, listen,
I don't know what's going on, but my bed is
like I'm inclined on my bed and it is so hot.
I don't know what to do to help you, and
you have no ideas because of the internet.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
They were trying to help their poor grandma and then
she's like, Jimmy, my BET's broken?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
What broken? What what do you mean, grandma.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
What?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And they just think grandma's having an episode, which is
unfortunate the right right.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
They buy grandma this bed thinking it's gonna help, and then.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You know, oh, by the way. Uh. The AWS outage
was a DNS issue, which is domain name SIMP domain
name system. Almost anytime there's an issue with the Internet,
you won't think it's DNS, but it's almost always DNS.
So there's your there's your it tip of the day.
(37:55):
DNS is always the problem. Let's see what other what
other dystopian stuff do I got here? We can get
all the slightly depressing stuff out of the way where
I'm like, oh yikes, Oh, here we go. I got
one from Science Alert. They have a well Science Alert doesn't.
(38:18):
But somebody has a radical plan to beam sunlight on
demand at night, and it has sparked a lot of concern.
This is coming from Michael J. Brown and Matthew Kenworthy
and yeah, it is a proposed constellation of satellites and
it has astronomers worried. Unlike satellites that reflect sunlight and
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produce light and produce light pollution as an unfortunate byproduct,
the ones by a US startup reflect Orbital would produce
light pollution by design. The company promises to produce sunlight
on demand with mirrors that beam sunlight down to Earth
so solar farms can operate after sunset, which.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Billionaire sun Which billionaire person wants to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Uh, there's not a specific name on it, but I'm
sure we could find out.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I know, I know a plot to make people work
longer hours when I see.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, it's interesting all that is. Yeah, because it is
interesting that this is now out here. And I also
saw something similar to this, but it was talking about
using finding a way to use moon light for like
an alternate form. So then that's how you would get
your twenty four hours. It would be like, hey, let's
(39:38):
still do solar, but then alternatively, let's also have these
light moonlight forms, uh, moon light farms. Yeah, so also
get the reflection of the sun off of the moon
and do it that way. I was like, oh, that's
kind of cool. But then you got these guys.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, and of these guys are like, let me beam
sunlight directly into your eyes.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Uh no, that's all intentional. That would be catastrophic.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, that'd be horrible. When also it goes wrong once
and you're frying people like ants under a magnifying glass.
That's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Oh my god, you go that's just a spot.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Oh sorry, we can't actually fix the satellite's positioning because
AWS went down again. Sorry, sorry that your house is
on fire.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Sorry you've had twenty four hours and even though you're
not in Alaska where that can be like a thing.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Oh you want to sleep. Sorry, you've had seventy two
straight hours of sunlight. That's a bummer, but nothing we
can do about it. I did look up who owned it,
by the way, and it's owned by its founders and investors,
so it is a privately owned company with investors.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
It's the biggest investors.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It looks like lux Capital and Sequoia Capital and Starship Ventures,
which Starship Ventures. That sounds it may not be bezos,
but it sounds bezos.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I think it is. Looking it up now, I will
say you are correct, because I'm like, I'm looking at
their little website and they're like, oh, it can use
for agriculture, it can be used for industry. And it's
literally showing like factories lit up and things like that,
and I'm like, oh, that's interesting. Uh huh. They're like
(41:27):
getting back to interesting. Yeah, it's like, this is not
a solar.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Farm, it is a farm of time capital.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Anytime I see stuffing that's anti environment like that, it's
inevitably because they want to make workers do more work,
like that's what.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
They Also they also have this sense on here, wait
a minute, what's this meme defense? But is it a
space ling of this?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Oh? Oh not space lasers. So the other funny part
of this is like, I feel like this conversation has
been had so many times, and every time people have
been like, hey, that's a terrible idea, because I genuinely
remember listening to an old Coast to Coast episode in
the early two thousands about them doing exactly this, and
then everybody being like, hey, that's a terrible idea. M hmm, yeah,
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do you want some more, more, more dystopian stuff. Just
get it all out of the out of our systems.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Uh, this one is a I don't know if it's
slightly less dystopian. It's it's got less of an impact
I guess than you know, beaming sunlight directly at people.
This one's also from tech Spot, but it's written by
Sky Jacobs. China is testing restroom machines that make you
watch ads in exchange for toilet paper, which you think.
(43:02):
China is testing out machines that make you watch ads
in exchange for toilet paper. Officials say the system curbs waste.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So basically they are going to make you watch ads
to see how badly you really need that toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay, I mean what.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Parts of China, because I mean, well, here's the thing,
all right, some parts of China do provide toilet paper.
And I'm not proad by the way. That's not leaning
into pro ad at all. And a lot of parts
of China you're actually encouraged to bring your own toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I think that's what this is encouraging. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Yeah, so usually like if you need toilet paper, it's
like a paid system. Yeah, like if you don't have
toilet paper when you show up at a bathroom, like
not everywhere. There are parts of China where like you
can get it for free, but like you're generally encouraged
to bring your own.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
So I think this is just like a oh you
want toilet paper, you're gonna have to work for it
if you didn't bring your own for it.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, I'm not, by the way, I think that's ridiculous,
but I'm just saying I'm not surprised. And also, it's
not like here where you know, you just can grab
toilet paper, and if you're out, you can just attack
the worker and make them give you more.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I'm not sure if this is better or worse, by
the way, but to watch the ads you scan a
QR code and watch them on your own phone. In
some ways that's better because if they had like a
if they had a touch screen like on the wall,
can you imagine how nasty that thing would be?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Well also, I mean okay, so once again this is
going back to different Chinese norms to America.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
But not all of their.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Toilets are standard American toilets. It depends on what part
you know, it depends on what part of China.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
You're in, and how like how rule it is. But like,
there's parts where.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
The bathrooms are pretty much just like flowing streams mm hm.
So if you have to scan a QR code to
get toilet paper, it might fall into the flowing stream.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I was also curious, is is China big on the
bidets as well, like public because I know Japan in
some areas, like some of the more urban ones, like
the public rushrooms will also have the days, so it's
like it's filet paper is not as much of a
necessity in a sense, it's not it's not really.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
I mean, like, okay, so like the bidet thing's actually
more common like Southeast Asia, like that's more of like
a like Japan's on it obviously now, but like China,
I mean, I'm sure some parts of China have sort
of like adapted to using it, like, but I don't
think it's commonplace. Like even the standard toilets are different,
(45:57):
like Japan has adopted more. I don't want to say
American style toilets because.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That's like a Western style. I think it's the call
it or something similar like Europeans.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Yeah, yeah, like a lot of their like public toilets
are still like.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
The bend down toilets, but there are.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
More public places that are leaning into the Western style.
But China especially isn't really leaning into that yet at
least not that I know of. Things could be changing, obviously,
but uh yeah, I don't think that they're really huge
on the days.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Okay, I wasn't sure because I was just curious. I
don't know if that could also have been part of it,
where it's like trying to almost transition a little bit
more towards like that in a sense, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
There is, and it does say they're not huge jump
of days, they're not complete.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
There is more information that apparently these are like an
evolution of earlier systems. So, uh, Beijing's temple for toilet paper, well, well,
Beijing's Temple of Heaven Park in twenty seventeen had a
had facial recognition machines that basically face scan to identify
individuals and impose a time restriction, so it only all
(47:17):
allowed them a small amount of paper every nine minutes.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Okay, that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, that's why I just wanted to give some background
there of apparently this is an improvement.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Okay, I didn't realize there was like a lower level
of toilet paper and a.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Lot of courts China, you're really encouraged to bring your.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Own toilet paper.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
It makes sense, and there is kind of like a
common like it's not like it's more of like an
unwritten thing where like when you're in public, you usually
don't go number two, like.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, but sometimes like sometimes things just happen.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah, I mean, like sometimes you just gotta go. You know,
there's not much of a choice, but a lot of
the public restrooms aren't really I mean some of like
the more you know, like the bigger areas, like the
big cities, they're going to have more accessible things. But yeah,
like it's just developed a little bit differently, which I
think probably causes some of the confusion that we're getting
(48:25):
here with the toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But yeah, Vain, I need you to become an expert
on toilet paper in China so we can know what's
going on here.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Could you become our toilet paper expert? Disc in General
of the World slash Space Tornadoes.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I will say, thinking back to like when we were kids,
I remember like every Halloween party there would be the
game to like mummify people with toilet paper. And now
I'm like thinking about that of like, oh my gosh,
that stuff is so expensive. Why would you use that
buy some streamers?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I mean, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I think, uh, maybe I got one more that is
a little less dystopian. It's a little still a little cyberpunk,
but less dystopian.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Here.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
This is from POPSI Popular Science from Mark de Gurin
World's smallest bioprinter is the size of a pill. The
ingestible device could help patients heal from the inside. So yeah,
researchers at E p f L. I will not try
(49:38):
to pronounce that because it is in French ep f
L Switzerland. It's switzerlandique, but it looks French. Yes, I polytechnique.
I was like, oh, I can say that one, but
the rest of it, I went, I will butcher this
if I try to say it.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Van.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
If you're feeling brave and want to take a crack
at it, you are welcome.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
To what am I looking at?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Here? Hold on?
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Where is this that that you put it in the discord?
It is?
Speaker 2 (50:11):
It's calest bioprinter. It's the side of a pill and
it has like a like a little how far up?
A little where are.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
You at somewhere in there? I've been jumping around so sorry.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
That I like a little look like a little pink
thing with like a little blue thing. It's right below planet.
Why I feel like I'm a weird space map right now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Oh, hold on, I'm on a different weird news one
second thing here.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
There's too much weird news happening right now.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
I don't I'll see it. How far up?
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Do I got a scroll?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
It's from today.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I wonder if it doesn't have does it. Have the
pre you, because not all of them show the preview.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, just have a preview for me, this.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Thing I see, just as most Americans say they've experienced
one paranormal thing.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
That's my last thing.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'll just send you a link.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
My god killing me.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Okay, alright, I sent you a link. You don't have
to scroll.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Thank you, my goodness. Yeah, I was not saying that
at all.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
I don't know where this is.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I didn't want to interrupt. You seemed focused, and I
didn't want to interrupt.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
The cool polytechnique Federal.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Yeah, it's the Federal School of Polytechnicians of Los Hans.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
It sounds great to me anyway. Researchers there are working
on there were you are what they're calling the world's
first pill size ingestable bioprinter. Using magnets and an infrared laser,
the researchers demonstrate they could remotely guide a capsule roughly
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the size of a chunky prescription pill towards ulcers in
the gas gastro intestinal tract. Say that five times fast.
Once in place, the printer releases a living bio ink
to promote healthy cell repair. Earlier testing suggests the tiny
bioprinter could help heal gastro intestinal tissue damage and potentially
(52:30):
seal hemorrhages, all without the need for invasive surgery. I
think that's really cool if there could be less surgery.
So at the same time, what happens to it once
it's done doing what it needs to? I guess it's
just you know, dissolved, passed the past. But so I guess, yeah,
(52:54):
that might be okay. As long as it's made of
like biodegradable stuff, it's.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Not going to like, okay, okay. So it does say
what happens to it a little further down, and now
I'm not as on board.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Oh no, oh no, it.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Says the researchers say a surgeon can use the magnetic
guidance system to retrieve the capital via the same oral route.
Why it goes in for your mouth and then it
comes back out?
Speaker 1 (53:26):
No, no, Why wouldn't you just like let it go
like they're not you're not going to reuse that.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
I hope, I hope not, because that's my worry. Now
I'm like, is this after being expelled from the I'm
not even more clarity on that because this is this
is weird.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Now. Well, while you're looking for clarity on that, I
was curious. The bio ink is derived from seaweed, which,
when deployed, serves as a scaffold for healthy cells to
grow over. So that's cool. But the way it releases,
apparently it is like a mechanism like clicking a pen
to draw out at zinc. It goes like hold on, Actually,
(54:08):
oh I just clicked a pen into the mic. I
don't know if you all could hear that and just ink, yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
It is.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
They did say that they have done testing to check
out hemorrhaging. I think that's cool.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
That's cool. I mean, I guess it's still less invasive
than surgery.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
But true, I think it's a really neat thing. I'm
just not sure how I feel about it going out
the same way it goes in. I guess I just
assumed it would like, yeah, continue on and then that's it.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Like I don't, Yeah, I have questions, but maybe they're
still working on that part. It's in early trials. Yeah, yeah,
so I was like that one's that one's kind of dystopian.
It's a little bit more cheerful than the rest.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
You're right, it's very kind of cyberpunk, but like it
isn't a cool way, I'll say that that is really neat.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah yeah, Well, on that note, we've amazingly made it
to the end of the hour, getting very distracted by
space tornadoes and technical difficulties and toilet paper, a lot
of toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, don't hoard your TP, but like have it on hand.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, way important always m yeah for sure. Well, on
that note, I think we will go ahead and sign
off for the night. Oh actually I haven't taught you
all this part yet. Normally our sign off since our
last episode was the Halloween Specially, ended a little bit differently.
So normally it's good night and good luck. So normally
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I say good night and the other person says good luck.
Do you all want to fight over it? Good luck?
Who wants it?
Speaker 4 (55:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (55:57):
You can say good luck. It's fine, know you want
to with that? Sure?
Speaker 4 (56:05):
All right?
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Well then good night, alright, every good Luck
Good evening, and welcome to the hour dedicated to talking
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The intro track to this episode in most of our
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your host, Alex, and hopefully we have Vain and Janelle
with us again.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Now I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You're here, Janelle? Are you with us?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Silence?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Silence, Oh Janelle, we don't hear you. That is strange. Well, Janelle,
while you're working on that, we'll go ahead and take
our first caller because we're doing open lines tonight. We
fared we kick off season five with a little open
lines because it's been a little while.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Good. Good evening, now, how.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Are you good evening? I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm goodness with Michael Midnight from AI f vidy eight
point three f M.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yes, a little little radio on radio.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Here, just wanted to call to see hi. We don't
have to do a story. Uh, just doing a relaunch
since last time I talked to you, I finally have
a better hour now I'm nine to ten pm on
Tuesday nights. Uh yeah, really not the witching hour nine pm.
By considering I was getting up going to work for
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last nine ten months with two hours of sleep, It's
better than just leading the show. Yeah, and I have
to give it up, so I get open lines this
week to kind of reintroduce people because my first six
seven months were two am to four am Wednesday night
going into Thursday morning, which not you know, they're gonna
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have a huge ton of listeners at those hours. And
he got a little bit better with Thursday morning into
Friday night from twelve to two and now Tuesday to
nine pm. I'm just hoping to get a better audience.
So I'm just kind of redoing, I said, doing a relaunch.
I mean, I got it. Now. I have a co
host with me now, so I've ever had two hours
than one. But like I said, it is better than nothing,
(03:46):
so God, I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah. And I mean obviously we like nine pm. That's
our time slot too, so.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, yeah, So I'm just hoping to uh just hoping
to the you know, slowly was surely get a larger
base of listeners out there as the post of the
hours I had when I first got the show. Next
month i'll be on a full year, so it's real quick.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah. Wow, that's great though. I'm glad you got to
more conducive to sleep time slot for you.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Honestly, being at nine TM, I'm hoping more people listening
as well. I didn't see you, but I was at
the ext scripted block party Huggington.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, I missed you. There was it was
a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah it was. I really liked it. Uh yeah, it
was more people and I thought, so that's cool that,
you know, there's more stuff around the Cincinnati area like
this up the street in Loveland where I met you
at the Frog Day festival, and now this over at Covington.
So hopefully that's trend to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun. Well, I'm glad
you called in and Happy Halloween.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Happy with you, And if you want to call, I
will have open lines next Tuesday at nine TM, so
if you act some time, you can call in. We'll
be there nine to ten next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Awesome. I definitely will I'll talk to you next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I have a good night.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Thanks you too. Thanks awesome. Well that was our first
call in of the night. Ah, Janelle should be reconnecting
in a minute. Always technical difficulty is it has chosen
Janelle instead of you this week? Vain. Yeah, that's just
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the way it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Goes, connecting, disconnecting, connecting.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Honestly though, I mean who needs to connect? Yeah, but
while we were waiting for Janelle to be able to reconnect,
I open the wrong thing. We can talk about a
little bit of weird news.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I'm still stuck on the space tornado.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The space tornado. Yeah, actually, do you want to talk
about the space tornado?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I haven't got into really hot. I like that I've
been scrolling up on this on these lovely news articles
that I uh, you know, I'm always drawn away by
space things and then tornadoes. You know, that's just too
many of my interests combined in the one. Yeah. I
mean this is all the way back in the beginning
of October. Yeah, it's weird and slightly old news.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let me see, I just saw that they found a
like a spooky jack of Lantern face in the sun
just in time. For Halloween.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I mean that just means the Sun's, you know, dressing
up the parent.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's going.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
We better give it candy too, or else it might
decide to destroy us.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
How do we give it candy? Do we just shoot
it into space?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah? Yeah, like a little missile launcher, like a little
uh yeah, like I don't know, uh yeah, like a
space ship, but just full of candy. I hear that
the Sun is really into tootsy rolls, so maybe just
give it a few tootsy rolls.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's what we have to do with all of them.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's a bunch of tootsi rolls. Let me see here. Okay,
So the space tornadoes are just like part of the
storms that already happen obviously, I mean that makes sense.
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But they can they can still mess with the Earth.
So that's something.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
What do they do? They do they create tornadoes on Earth? No,
that was.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Like, what do you mean? Yes, the space tornadoes they
actually prompt us to get tornadoes.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's that's exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Now. It says that they can harm our electrical grids
in our digital systems, depending on like how strong they are,
so like just basically a solar storm. But cooler, you know,
because it's a tornado.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah. Hello, hello, Oh we have Janelle, yeah vain talking
about the season of a technical difficulty talking about the
tornadoes summon Janelle.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I I'm here.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well we were talking about space tornadoes Janelle and launching
Tipsy Rolls into the Sun.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah. Yeah, because the Sun is dressed up for Halloween,
so we got to give it a treat for dressing up.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh my gosh, I love it. M hm.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Also I like about that anything Mambo number five is
in here, Alex, because that's one of my favorite Lord
did this favorite thing?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh oh oh. That was one that actually we weren't
recording during so even like when we're not recording, I
send like all of our weird news articles to one
discord chap. Sorry you all for the notifications on that.
My bad. But yeah, so we haven't gotten to talk
about that, So let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Oh my gosh, listen, maybe maybe we should go back
to it because I just talked about space tornadoes and
it should be someone else's turn, but it is Stephen King,
and I feel like that's kind of my that's that's
kind of my territory.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I can't let me pull it. Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Oh my gosh, I feel like it would be unfair
for me to go from space tornadoes, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I and hard curve ball. I'm in this article, the
one that I pulled up. I don't know that it's
that one. This this art was actually from September six,
twenty twenty three, but it cracked me up so much
I had to talk about. It's from Variety and the
title of it is Stephen King played Mambo number five
so much his wife written to divorce him one more
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time and I'm going to effing leave you. And this
was written by.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That when he was which book was he writing?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Holly?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, yeah, it's said Holly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yes, it was Holly Holly's newest one. No, yes, he
was promoting it. Yeah, okay, oh.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Gosh, which book was it?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It wasn't The Shank Redemption hold On, because it was
it was post Stephen King doing cocaine. And I'm pretty
sure he number five specifically, because it gave the same
effect of the main the.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Cocaine like I was kind of the second.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I will say that.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
As somebody that writes that it does work, not the
cocaine parts, the momb on number five part.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Oh he was writing eleven twenty two sixty three, his
twenty eleven novel about a time traveler. That's what it was.
So you know what really makes me think of Mambo
number five the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Oh gosh, I'm just imagining at John F. Kennedy's funeral,
the guy who made Mama number five was thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Lou Bega was there? Actually was he?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
No, I'm totally making that.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I have no idea how old that guy is.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He's I believe lou Bega is a German singer. Maybe yeah,
he's a German singer.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
That is not I mean, it is, it is, but
it isn't what I expected. I'm like, he was not
allowed assassination.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Okay, but's book is about time traveling, so obviously lou
Bega time travel to go to JFK's funeral.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Duh.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Have you ever seen him in at lou Bega and
John F. Kennedy in the same room.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Actually, one of my favorite conspiracy theories we've ever talked
about on Here was this guy in Florida who is
convinced that, oh gosh, what's his name? The guy who
killed John Lennon they're convinced it's Stephen King just because
they vaguely look alike. So this guy has this whole
campaign against Stephen King because he's like, he looks just
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like the guy who shot John Lennon. And I'm like,
what I mean, have you ever.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Seen John Lennon Stephen King in the same room?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I sure haven't. Where's JFK?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And all this? I want to know, I'm misimagining Stephen
King reading Catcher in the Rye and then immediately reverting
to the desire to kill John Lennon.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That'd be crazy. Maybe not maybe not crazy as we think,
but that would be crazy. Oh my goods.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I mean, there's lots of weird news here, but I
was still focused on the tornado that I like. I
don't really look.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
At any of the other thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Did you say you had more?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It was just explaining how they form. But it's a
lot of science stuff, and I'm no scientist. I just like,
I just like the concept, well of a space tornado.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Get on it and become a scientist.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I want listen, if I was moren like two hundred
years later, I'd be out there storm chasing.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But in space future that is, that's what the next
thing state that there.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Won't be storm chasers.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
No, no, no, the next Twister sequel needs to be
Twister in space.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Let's not started. Let's not start a Sharknado thing with
space tornadoes.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Please, But like, what if they handle it really well
to get the science in there.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, if they can get the science in there, I'm
on board that I might have a line if it's
just like you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Know, I mean, that's what I really respected because like,
the Twisters was fine, it wasn't anything amazing. But what
I really respected about it was they corrected in the
first Twister movie when they hit under the underpass, that's
actually one of the worst things you can do. So
they made that. Like the whole like beginning part of
Twisters was to be like, hey, don't do that, You'll die.
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And I was like, great, I love that you all
like really fixed that because you know, that was the problem.
I don't know if anybody died taking that advice, but
I'm sure it did not work out great for people
who unfortunately took that advice.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And a lot of people still do it. Yep, a
lot of people still do it, and.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You shouldn't because if you go into an underpass during
a towny though. It basically acts like you know how Chicago,
it's all windy because it's all being squeezed through those passages.
It basically acts like a suction and it will just
you write out from under the pass. Yeah. So yeah,
if you did not watch Twisters, here you go. Don't
do it. I just saved you watching the whole.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
If you want to talk about some more weird news, though,
I got one here that says most Americans say they
have experienced at least one paranormal event. Apparently. I mean,
there was a poll on you gov asking Americans about
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their paranormal experiences, and most people said they've had at
least one paranormal experience, and many believe that they personally
have paranormal ability. So it says about sixty percent of
Americans say they've had at least one of thirteen paranormal experiences,
slightly down from sixty seven percent in October of twenty
twenty two. So we're getting a little less paranormal or
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people are a little less willing to admit it.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, I've got some more here if you want it.
Among the thirteen different experiences asked, about one of them
was a feeling feeling a presence or unknown energy that's
thirty five percent, Smelling an unexplained odor that's thirty two percent,
Hearing an unexplained sound or music thirty one percent, hearing
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the voice of someone who wasn't there twenty six percent,
feeling an unexplained change in temperature twenty six percent. Not
too many people said they've seen a demon. That was
only seven percent, seeing unexplained smoke nine percent, or seen
an angel ten percent.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Why does it have to be a demon? Why can't
it just be a thing?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
They just wanted some specifics, I guess, But how do
you know it's a demon? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They considered that.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Maybe the reason that number so low is because they
they're saying demon instead of.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Discussing, oh well, because like if someone's going to see
something like that, they're not going to know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, I just think that
the demon parts a little strange. You know, we've all
I guess, Yeah, I guess I'm theory if they're able
to distinguish an angel, I mean I guess they could, right, right,
that's kind of like, yeah, I think I think we
got some moorry lines.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
People walking down the street every day. Does that make
them angels or are they ahements?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It depends on how you feeling that day.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, some of them have like nine billion eyes. But
you know they do tell me, be not afraid, and.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So I'm not. You're like you like, you know, yeah,
I would not.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm something's wrong with me. I'd be like, I'm I'm afraid.
You said be not afraid, and that makes me afraid. Actually,
mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
The eyes are comforting, and especially when they're on the
spinning wheels, you know, really.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The fire spinning wheels specifically. Yes, that's actually thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh man, what weird news do you have?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know, let me see it?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So me, I've been following that comment thirty one, the
one that's also called atlast a lot a lot. Yeah,
I'm following it a lot. Just I was like, you know,
it just pumped into my head every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So you are in space, who is you know, hunting tornadoes.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And to supposedly and that may be causing the tornadoes.
I don't know, yeah, so supposedly. There was like first
they kept calling it like almost like an interstellar body
of some kind was going to be like entering our
Solar system. It apparently like entered yesterday, like the closest
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that ever came to earths well yesterday, and everyone was
freaking out about it because some people were like, well,
what if it's an alien space shift because it moves
a little differently than what you would kind of like
naturally expect from a commet. But I think what's fascinating
to me is you do have you know, people from
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NASA and other people that are clearly more skilled in
space and maybe space tornadoes who were like, no, I'm
pretty confident it's a comet, but I think we need
to be ready in case it's not. And I'm like,
that's not reassuring. What do you mean And they're like,
you know, You're like, I think humanity needs to be
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ready in case there's that low probability that it's aliens.
And I'm like, wow, you all just really threw just
threw that in there, because I just don't think anyone
truly knows too too much.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's very exciting from a standpoint because apparently this thing
is older than of course like the Earth itself, and
and things like that. But it's it's uh, it's just
an interesting following that logic because then everyone's like, as
it gets closer, everyone's like, well, it's moving weird. It's
moving differently, like it's changing course in a way that
like a natural kind of like celestial body wouldn't. And
(20:26):
you have that little hint in the back of your
mind of like it could be aliens. It could I
think that's I think that's kind of cool if it
is a little bit of a weird way for them
to finally show up, I think, But.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But why wouldn't they, like, you know, yeah, make an entrance.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah. Yeah. So that's just what I've been following for
the most part. That's just in my weird news it is.
It's on those things where you know, you click on
one thing and then you start you like fifteen others
other things about it popping up. There is apparently some
people thought it had lights on it or like Japan's
got video footage of it. It was a cruise ship
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at night. It was a fake video that you know,
blew up the internet. But we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I saw let me pull it up before I say something.
I don't mean.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, worries.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
That.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Actually, so your comment might be the same video that
I saw, because I saw a bunch of videos from
Russia that they were like, oh my gosh, this looks
like a UFO. But I think it may have just
been your comment. It might have been I'm just curious.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, I'll say, I don't know how visible it is
for us, because most of the stuff like I have
been seeing has been from like a telescope from Chile
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. So so it could be the same thing, or
we could have multiple visitors.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Mm hmm. We could be having multiple visitors. Yeah. So
that's that's just what I've been falling along for the
most part right now. I do you like the concept
of it in a space tornado though? That'd be pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Space tornado is pretty it's a lot. I would a
tornado be better or worse in space?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I mean, so, is it just like happening in space,
like like say, you know the space between us and
like the spide or something. Is it just like there?
Is it just like out there? Or some solar storms?
Oh okay, yeah, all our storms are just out there,
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and those cause the space tornadoes.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, I think they're they're based around the Sun though too,
like it's it's all based off of the sun doing sun.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Okay, outside of.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
That, because there's other things that are basically the sun.
You know, the Sun's just one son. But right, I mean,
I don't know what the categories of space tornadoes are.
I don't know if there's an ef space tornado.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
That'd be wild.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I wanted. That's what we have to figure out, honestly,
is the space tornado scale for the future. I'm changing course,
I am now going to try to find that, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But I have been reading and listening to a lot
about hurricanes and tornadoes this week, and they were talking
about how the rating system actually can cause more damage
because then people don't take it as seriously as they should.
So maybe we shouldn't make a rating system for space.
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Maybe we should just be very descriptive of what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But counter Alex, if we don't put a rating system
on there, how are we gonna get the weird dudes
hanging out with no shirt on right outside of the sun,
knowing this thing can't stop me, and then they throw
a bottle into.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That is exactly what I was thinking, Oh my.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Goodness, system, the brain people's defenses down, we won't get
good memes.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We gotta we gotta at least come up with like
a really wild waiting wait, wow, waiting waiting system. We're
making these space tornados. Wait, a rating system for space tornados.
It has to be something really wild.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
God, the idea. Honestly, they'll be waiting system. And we're like,
that is at least the three elephants worth of a tornado.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, sorry, hold on, you're gonna have to wait. We
got like a really like there's a big one coming
through right now, and just there's not enough space for
the both of yea.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yea space Did you think you're alone the size of
a space tornado?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I was calling the other tornado the size of a tornado.
I don't know, Okay, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Kind of felt like you were calling someone the size
of a space tornado, and I was calling the.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Other tornado the size of a tornado. So I think
it's fine. I'm sorry to all space tornadoes I've offended.
I don't I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh, I do have a space based war text. Oh
that's fun.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Space based vortex. That's a fun one to say quickly yes, uh,
I have some more weird news for us here. There
has been some drama in Machakos in Kenya as four
people are caught practicing witchcraft near a pall politicians home
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at midnight.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Is you know what they do?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
More?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What part of that is really the problem? Is it
the witchcraft? Is it that midnight? Is it the politician
pal well?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
This article was published by a local news station there
called Tucco on October twenty seventh, and it says four individuals,
including two women and two men, were caught allegedly practicing
witchcraft near politicians home. The group was found at night
with bizarre items commonly associated with witchcraft. Villagers quickly apprehended
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the suspects and questioned them about what they were up
to before the police arrived at the scene and rescued them.
Doesn't clarify whether rescued them meant the people practicing witchcraft
or the other people who were trying to stop the witchcraft.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Sorry, I just okay, but.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh okay, so as we go down, it does clarify more.
Apparently their idea of stopping them was like they straight
up just like formed a mob, so the police had
to come and rescue the people doing witchcraft because the
other people went mob about it.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, I mean politicians were in this hole, just the one.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It was just one. But I guess once they caught
them doing witchcraft, it wasn't the politician that formed the mob.
It was other random people.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I think that Kenya is still a primarily superstitious area.
I agree, especially when I come to that, So it's
not that surprising. I mean, we can make light of it,
but I'm pretty sure that they've done some pretty gruesome stuff.
The people that they believe are witches. I mean, like
it's no different than what you did, but like you know,
(27:58):
like there's there they're doing it. I mean, give us
a few years, we might start doing it again too.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of looking through some of the
comments people had getting.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, there's a whole video that I'm not going to
watch because you can see that they're beaten up, and
I don't like that that is publicly available. But there's
like so many people on the internet who are saying
that they did it to like help get votes for
like that politician, like sympathy votes and I'm like, I
don't think so, mm hmmm. But they do have a
(28:33):
bunch of quotes from people, and one of them that
the top quote that they have in here, says, I
wonder why witches are so poor despite being able to
bewitch money into their lives. I'm like, wow, that's a
good question.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Where's my money?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Uh? Somebody else pointed out that there's no long Kenya
that addresses witchcraft. They might be charged with trespassing. Interesting
it was the governor's residence, by the way, So yeah,
I just thought that was interesting because you don't hear
about that a whole lot these days. It sounds like
(29:13):
the police question them about what they were doing, but
they didn't really give a lot of clear answers. So
were they even practicing witchcraft or were they just like
hanging out in a bad place.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Right right, chilling by somebody's house, you know, And then
then they're just like, hey, you're chilling by somebody's house,
but you've got a fire in between you or something,
you know, Like.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, right right. Uh. Actually, I if we want to
go very dystopian here, I've got some dystopian articles as well.
I have this one. It's from tech Spot. A high
school student was surrounded by police and handcuffed after AI
(30:02):
mistakes his bag of Dorito's for a gun. Oh you
know what?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I did see that? Yes? I mean, can I say
I'm surprised?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
No, I'm not surprised at all. This article is by
Rob Thubroun. The teenager in question, Taki Allen, is a
sixteen year old high school student at Kentwood High School
in Baltimore County, Maryland. He was sat outside with his
friends after football practice while waiting to be picked up
(30:32):
last week. About twenty minutes after he finished the bag
of Dorito's he had been eating, around eight police cars
showed up. Officers climbed out of cars and with their
weapons pointing at Alan, told him to put his hands
on his head and walk towards them. The student said
he was then told to get on his knees and
was placed in handcuffs, and the police later confirmed that
he was handcuffed but not arrested. But yeah, the AI
(30:53):
it was his crumpled bag that it mistook as a
firearm and then immediately called the police the sixteen So
the AI, yeah, fantastic, so uh, one officer said, I
(31:16):
guess just the way you were eating chips, doritos whatever,
it picked it up as a gun. And then another
cop added that AI is not the best, which you think.
What's worse is these school superintendent doctor Miriam Rogers told
reporters that the system worked how it was meant to.
Her quote is, the program is based on human verification,
(31:39):
and in this case, the program did it was did
what it was supposed to, which was to signal an
alert and for humans to take a look to find
out if there was cause for concern in that moment.
Understandable to have humans check it, but maybe don't have
the cops check it. Maybe have someone go yeah, before
it dials the cops.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That's what I with something I feel like most schools
have so many, at least nowadays, like some form of
like security staff in general. Yeah, why weren't some like
why wouldn't one of them confirm it first, even address
the situation first before the police are called. Yeah, Like
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I mean, like, and I understand if you think there
is a weapon, that is a problem, but again, if
you're basing it only on AI technology, you're gonna get
a lot of false alerts and at some point, the
cops are gonna end up start charging that school for
every time they come out for a false alarm. So
maybe have somebody double checked that before it immediately auto
dials them. Even if you have YES security constantly.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Watching it, right, right, human verification, then a human should
verify before sending in forces. They should look at the
camera feed.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Absolutely, well, because I also wondered too, like if somebody
like were to say, just filed a false report like this,
I get in trouble for it. Absolutely, But because it
is because this is an AI system.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
There's no accountability. There's not a person to blame, like,
no accountability for it.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, exactly, Like there's something that they can do to
be like, hey, watch closer, like I don't know, like
it's I don't know, it's that's so weird.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's why I was saying this is very dystopian.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
They do have another quote from this kid, Alan said,
he you know, it's inside after football practice, as he
does not think it is safe enough to go outside,
especially eating a bag of chips or drinking something. So
that's why I wanted to say this is very dystopian.
It's really messed up with the schools, Like, yeah, the
(33:39):
process functions it was intended to to prietize safety and
awareness through rapid human verification. That is not the correct
form of human verification. You have scarred this child.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, he was told to get on the ground and
handcuffed and he probably didn't even fully know why in
the moment. I doubt they were explaining it to him. No,
And then he's like, I was just eating a snack, yeah,
which he's probably done hundreds.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Of times before I've met that. Poor Kid's never going
to eat Dorito's ever again.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Probably not. I gives him like a lifetime It's like,
I don't want to say subscription, but you know.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, they should sponsor him, you.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Know what, they should sponsor him for football.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah. Ugh, yeah, So my goodness. Uh, I've got some more.
We can keep going down the dystopian rabbit hole if
you want, because as much as I work in it,
I've got a lot of stuff on why uh, you know,
(34:41):
everything being smart is not smart. So recently there was
a massive outage of Amazon's web services, and this article
from heart that it took down about a third of
the Internet because a lot of people use it for hosting.
This is one of the the most fascinating things that
I think that it took down. Fascinating. There are more
(35:05):
terrible things that it took down. This is just one
of the most interesting. So this is from Ours Technica.
AWS outage reminds us why two four forty nine dollars
Internet dependent beds are a bad idea? From Sharon Harding.
(35:26):
What is the name of this bed? I just lost
it asleep. Yeah, it's a bed. It's a bed that
connects the internet so you can control the way that
you sleep and the temperature and all that. It's made
by eight Sleep and because it connected to Amazon Web Services,
basically it resulted in people being awoken by beds locked
into inclined positions in sweltering temperatures. And because a TOBS
(35:50):
was down, they couldn't fix it, so they were just
stuck in their you know, tilted up beds, sweating.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Okay, So, like I was really curious about this. I
remember you were telling about this, and I looked it
up a little further because I was like, look of
these things come with remote, right, this one is not crazy? Well,
it does say most pods have onto my buttons, So
listen to this. It still needs the internet.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You use the button, yes, And they did say, hey,
they did say that they're going to fix it with this.
They're gonna make it so you can connect to Bluetooth
to fix it if AWS ever goes down again. But
that should have been a consideration in the first part.
Internet connections are not always going to be reliable.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, sometimes someone has a power outage.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Exactly, and just like, hey, sorry, you're stuck in your bed.
Your bed is now standing up. Good luck. You want
to sleep too bad? No internet?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I could my god, which by the way, I've been
getting that cough from your grandma. That's like, hey, listen,
I don't know what's going on, but my bed is
like I'm inclined on my bed and it is so hot.
I don't know what to do to help you, and
you have no ideas because of the internet.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
They were trying to help their poor grandma and then
she's like, Jimmy, my BET's broken?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
What broken? What what do you mean, grandma.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
What?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And they just think grandma's having an episode, which is
unfortunate the right right.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
They buy grandma this bed thinking it's gonna help, and then.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You know, oh, by the way. Uh. The AWS outage
was a DNS issue, which is domain name SIMP domain
name system. Almost anytime there's an issue with the Internet,
you won't think it's DNS, but it's almost always DNS.
So there's your there's your it tip of the day.
(37:55):
DNS is always the problem. Let's see what other what
other dystopian stuff do I got here? We can get
all the slightly depressing stuff out of the way where
I'm like, oh yikes, Oh, here we go. I got
one from Science Alert. They have a well Science Alert doesn't.
(38:18):
But somebody has a radical plan to beam sunlight on
demand at night, and it has sparked a lot of concern.
This is coming from Michael J. Brown and Matthew Kenworthy
and yeah, it is a proposed constellation of satellites and
it has astronomers worried. Unlike satellites that reflect sunlight and
(38:41):
produce light and produce light pollution as an unfortunate byproduct,
the ones by a US startup reflect Orbital would produce
light pollution by design. The company promises to produce sunlight
on demand with mirrors that beam sunlight down to Earth
so solar farms can operate after sunset, which.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Billionaire sun Which billionaire person wants to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Uh, there's not a specific name on it, but I'm
sure we could find out.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I know, I know a plot to make people work
longer hours when I see.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, it's interesting all that is. Yeah, because it is
interesting that this is now out here. And I also
saw something similar to this, but it was talking about
using finding a way to use moon light for like
an alternate form. So then that's how you would get
your twenty four hours. It would be like, hey, let's
(39:38):
still do solar, but then alternatively, let's also have these
light moonlight forms, uh, moon light farms. Yeah, so also
get the reflection of the sun off of the moon
and do it that way. I was like, oh, that's
kind of cool. But then you got these guys.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, and of these guys are like, let me beam
sunlight directly into your eyes.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Uh no, that's all intentional. That would be catastrophic.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, that'd be horrible. When also it goes wrong once
and you're frying people like ants under a magnifying glass.
That's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Oh my god, you go that's just a spot.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Oh sorry, we can't actually fix the satellite's positioning because
AWS went down again. Sorry, sorry that your house is
on fire.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Sorry you've had twenty four hours and even though you're
not in Alaska where that can be like a thing.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Oh you want to sleep. Sorry, you've had seventy two
straight hours of sunlight. That's a bummer, but nothing we
can do about it. I did look up who owned it,
by the way, and it's owned by its founders and investors,
so it is a privately owned company with investors.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
It's the biggest investors.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It looks like lux Capital and Sequoia Capital and Starship Ventures,
which Starship Ventures. That sounds it may not be bezos,
but it sounds bezos.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I think it is. Looking it up now, I will
say you are correct, because I'm like, I'm looking at
their little website and they're like, oh, it can use
for agriculture, it can be used for industry. And it's
literally showing like factories lit up and things like that,
and I'm like, oh, that's interesting. Uh huh. They're like
(41:27):
getting back to interesting. Yeah, it's like, this is not
a solar.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Farm, it is a farm of time capital.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Anytime I see stuffing that's anti environment like that, it's
inevitably because they want to make workers do more work,
like that's what.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
They Also they also have this sense on here, wait
a minute, what's this meme defense? But is it a
space ling of this?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Oh? Oh not space lasers. So the other funny part
of this is like, I feel like this conversation has
been had so many times, and every time people have
been like, hey, that's a terrible idea, because I genuinely
remember listening to an old Coast to Coast episode in
the early two thousands about them doing exactly this, and
then everybody being like, hey, that's a terrible idea. M hmm, yeah,
(42:28):
do you want some more, more, more dystopian stuff. Just
get it all out of the out of our systems.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Uh, this one is a I don't know if it's
slightly less dystopian. It's it's got less of an impact
I guess than you know, beaming sunlight directly at people.
This one's also from tech Spot, but it's written by
Sky Jacobs. China is testing restroom machines that make you
watch ads in exchange for toilet paper, which you think.
(43:02):
China is testing out machines that make you watch ads
in exchange for toilet paper. Officials say the system curbs waste.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So basically they are going to make you watch ads
to see how badly you really need that toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay, I mean what.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Parts of China, because I mean, well, here's the thing,
all right, some parts of China do provide toilet paper.
And I'm not proad by the way. That's not leaning
into pro ad at all. And a lot of parts
of China you're actually encouraged to bring your own toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I think that's what this is encouraging. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Yeah, so usually like if you need toilet paper, it's
like a paid system. Yeah, like if you don't have
toilet paper when you show up at a bathroom, like
not everywhere. There are parts of China where like you
can get it for free, but like you're generally encouraged
to bring your own.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
So I think this is just like a oh you
want toilet paper, you're gonna have to work for it
if you didn't bring your own for it.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, I'm not, by the way, I think that's ridiculous,
but I'm just saying I'm not surprised. And also, it's
not like here where you know, you just can grab
toilet paper, and if you're out, you can just attack
the worker and make them give you more.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I'm not sure if this is better or worse, by
the way, but to watch the ads you scan a
QR code and watch them on your own phone. In
some ways that's better because if they had like a
if they had a touch screen like on the wall,
can you imagine how nasty that thing would be?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Well also, I mean okay, so once again this is
going back to different Chinese norms to America.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
But not all of their.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Toilets are standard American toilets. It depends on what part
you know, it depends on what part of China.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
You're in, and how like how rule it is. But like,
there's parts where.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
The bathrooms are pretty much just like flowing streams mm hm.
So if you have to scan a QR code to
get toilet paper, it might fall into the flowing stream.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I was also curious, is is China big on the
bidets as well, like public because I know Japan in
some areas, like some of the more urban ones, like
the public rushrooms will also have the days, so it's
like it's filet paper is not as much of a
necessity in a sense, it's not it's not really.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
I mean, like, okay, so like the bidet thing's actually
more common like Southeast Asia, like that's more of like
a like Japan's on it obviously now, but like China,
I mean, I'm sure some parts of China have sort
of like adapted to using it, like, but I don't
think it's commonplace. Like even the standard toilets are different,
(45:57):
like Japan has adopted more. I don't want to say
American style toilets because.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That's like a Western style. I think it's the call
it or something similar like Europeans.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Yeah, yeah, like a lot of their like public toilets
are still like.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
The bend down toilets, but there are.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
More public places that are leaning into the Western style.
But China especially isn't really leaning into that yet at
least not that I know of. Things could be changing, obviously,
but uh yeah, I don't think that they're really huge
on the days.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Okay, I wasn't sure because I was just curious. I
don't know if that could also have been part of it,
where it's like trying to almost transition a little bit
more towards like that in a sense, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
There is, and it does say they're not huge jump
of days, they're not complete.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
There is more information that apparently these are like an
evolution of earlier systems. So, uh, Beijing's temple for toilet paper, well, well,
Beijing's Temple of Heaven Park in twenty seventeen had a
had facial recognition machines that basically face scan to identify
individuals and impose a time restriction, so it only all
(47:17):
allowed them a small amount of paper every nine minutes.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Okay, that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, that's why I just wanted to give some background
there of apparently this is an improvement.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Okay, I didn't realize there was like a lower level
of toilet paper and a.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Lot of courts China, you're really encouraged to bring your.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Own toilet paper.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
It makes sense, and there is kind of like a
common like it's not like it's more of like an
unwritten thing where like when you're in public, you usually
don't go number two, like.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, but sometimes like sometimes things just happen.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah, I mean, like sometimes you just gotta go. You know,
there's not much of a choice, but a lot of
the public restrooms aren't really I mean some of like
the more you know, like the bigger areas, like the
big cities, they're going to have more accessible things. But yeah,
like it's just developed a little bit differently, which I
think probably causes some of the confusion that we're getting
(48:25):
here with the toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But yeah, Vain, I need you to become an expert
on toilet paper in China so we can know what's
going on here.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Could you become our toilet paper expert? Disc in General
of the World slash Space Tornadoes.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I will say, thinking back to like when we were kids,
I remember like every Halloween party there would be the
game to like mummify people with toilet paper. And now
I'm like thinking about that of like, oh my gosh,
that stuff is so expensive. Why would you use that
buy some streamers?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I mean, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I think, uh, maybe I got one more that is
a little less dystopian. It's a little still a little cyberpunk,
but less dystopian.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Here.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
This is from POPSI Popular Science from Mark de Gurin
World's smallest bioprinter is the size of a pill. The
ingestible device could help patients heal from the inside. So yeah,
researchers at E p f L. I will not try
(49:38):
to pronounce that because it is in French ep f
L Switzerland. It's switzerlandique, but it looks French. Yes, I polytechnique.
I was like, oh, I can say that one, but
the rest of it, I went, I will butcher this
if I try to say it.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Van.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
If you're feeling brave and want to take a crack
at it, you are welcome.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
To what am I looking at?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Here? Hold on?
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Where is this that that you put it in the discord?
It is?
Speaker 2 (50:11):
It's calest bioprinter. It's the side of a pill and
it has like a like a little how far up?
A little where are.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
You at somewhere in there? I've been jumping around so sorry.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
That I like a little look like a little pink
thing with like a little blue thing. It's right below planet.
Why I feel like I'm a weird space map right now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Oh, hold on, I'm on a different weird news one
second thing here.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
There's too much weird news happening right now.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
I don't I'll see it. How far up?
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Do I got a scroll?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
It's from today.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I wonder if it doesn't have does it. Have the
pre you, because not all of them show the preview.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, just have a preview for me, this.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Thing I see, just as most Americans say they've experienced
one paranormal thing.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
That's my last thing.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'll just send you a link.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
My god killing me.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Okay, alright, I sent you a link. You don't have
to scroll.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Thank you, my goodness. Yeah, I was not saying that
at all.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
I don't know where this is.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I didn't want to interrupt. You seemed focused, and I
didn't want to interrupt.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
The cool polytechnique Federal.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Yeah, it's the Federal School of Polytechnicians of Los Hans.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
It sounds great to me anyway. Researchers there are working
on there were you are what they're calling the world's
first pill size ingestable bioprinter. Using magnets and an infrared laser,
the researchers demonstrate they could remotely guide a capsule roughly
(52:10):
the size of a chunky prescription pill towards ulcers in
the gas gastro intestinal tract. Say that five times fast.
Once in place, the printer releases a living bio ink
to promote healthy cell repair. Earlier testing suggests the tiny
bioprinter could help heal gastro intestinal tissue damage and potentially
(52:30):
seal hemorrhages, all without the need for invasive surgery. I
think that's really cool if there could be less surgery.
So at the same time, what happens to it once
it's done doing what it needs to? I guess it's
just you know, dissolved, passed the past. But so I guess, yeah,
(52:54):
that might be okay. As long as it's made of
like biodegradable stuff, it's.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Not going to like, okay, okay. So it does say
what happens to it a little further down, and now
I'm not as on board.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Oh no, oh no, it.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Says the researchers say a surgeon can use the magnetic
guidance system to retrieve the capital via the same oral route.
Why it goes in for your mouth and then it
comes back out?
Speaker 1 (53:26):
No, no, Why wouldn't you just like let it go
like they're not you're not going to reuse that.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
I hope, I hope not, because that's my worry. Now
I'm like, is this after being expelled from the I'm
not even more clarity on that because this is this
is weird.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Now. Well, while you're looking for clarity on that, I
was curious. The bio ink is derived from seaweed, which,
when deployed, serves as a scaffold for healthy cells to
grow over. So that's cool. But the way it releases,
apparently it is like a mechanism like clicking a pen
to draw out at zinc. It goes like hold on, Actually,
(54:08):
oh I just clicked a pen into the mic. I
don't know if you all could hear that and just ink, yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
It is.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
They did say that they have done testing to check
out hemorrhaging. I think that's cool.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
That's cool. I mean, I guess it's still less invasive
than surgery.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
But true, I think it's a really neat thing. I'm
just not sure how I feel about it going out
the same way it goes in. I guess I just
assumed it would like, yeah, continue on and then that's it.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Like I don't, Yeah, I have questions, but maybe they're
still working on that part. It's in early trials. Yeah, yeah,
so I was like that one's that one's kind of dystopian.
It's a little bit more cheerful than the rest.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
You're right, it's very kind of cyberpunk, but like it
isn't a cool way, I'll say that that is really neat.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah yeah, Well, on that note, we've amazingly made it
to the end of the hour, getting very distracted by
space tornadoes and technical difficulties and toilet paper, a lot
of toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, don't hoard your TP, but like have it on hand.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, way important always m yeah for sure. Well, on
that note, I think we will go ahead and sign
off for the night. Oh actually I haven't taught you
all this part yet. Normally our sign off since our
last episode was the Halloween Specially, ended a little bit differently.
So normally it's good night and good luck. So normally
(55:49):
I say good night and the other person says good luck.
Do you all want to fight over it? Good luck?
Who wants it?
Speaker 4 (55:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (55:57):
You can say good luck. It's fine, know you want
to with that? Sure?
Speaker 4 (56:05):
All right?
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Well then good night, alright, every good Luck
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