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November 20, 2025 68 mins
This week on Strange Talk, Alyx sits down with Chris Harmon, MUFON-certified field investigator, member of the Case Assistance Group, and part of the Experiencer Resource Team. Chris shares the extraordinary story of his lifelong encounters with non-human intelligences, the ET family he’s known since childhood, and how those experiences shaped his work as a healer and certified hypnotist.
Rachel joined the interview partway through, stepping in to corroborate many of Chris’s experiences with her own firsthand accounts. As a practiced remote viewer herself, she offered thoughtful insight into the techniques, sensations, and surprising accuracy of the process. Her perspective added another layer of validation to Chris’s story, turning the conversation into a fascinating, multi-voiced exploration of non-ordinary perception, shared encounters, and the sometimes-overlapping paths of experiencers.
Together, Alyx and Chris dig into what it means to be an experiencer, how remote viewing fits into his toolkit, and the patterns he’s seen in decades of paranormal and extraterrestrial cases. It’s a thoughtful, human, and deeply strange conversation that pushes past the usual UFO talking points and into lived reality.Music for this episode includes the Strange Talk Intro by Star Silk, GNOSIS by RELIC, and backing tracks by LoFiGeek.

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
In in.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Good evening and welcome to the hour dedicated to talking
about all things strange, weird and paranormal. You listen to
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entire planet Earth. The intro track to this episode of
Mist of our episodes is the Strangehock Intro by Star Silk.
I'm your host, Alex and we have a very special

(01:49):
guest tonight. If you would like to introduce yourself, Yes, Chris,
if you still there, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Chris Harmon. I'm with the mutualfone Network. I'm also with
Something Wicked Paranormal Investigations. I'm also a licensed certified ATMO therapist,
I certified psychic remote viewing viewer and psyche medium. I
work in multiple different areas including all across social media
as well as my scenior on Amazon Prime. Occasionally it's

(02:21):
the Travel Channel and various things such as Discovery Plus.
I have a very many years of eat experiences. I'm
a contact e, a lifelong contact ee since the time
of the child, and that's my introduction as well as
also being a professional photographer and like I said, it
certified license and growth therapist.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah yeah, And we met you at Scarefest and I'm
really glad because yeah, you were saying you're a lifelong
contact tee and you're a photographer, and my background's also
in photography and videography, and I was like, this is great.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Right, and so what do you want to begin?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, you said you're a lifelong contact tea. So when
when did you start having these experiences? How young were you?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I was probably just just no more than an infant.
I was born eight weeks early. I know a lot
of contact teams who are eating experiencers seemed to be
born a little earlier, like premature at the time I
was born from like basically from that from the day
I was born. I remember the day I was born.
I remember that particular day being hooked up with all
these tubes and life support just to be able to

(03:28):
hang on to brief. I was born so early. I
can't we gret by myself. From that point on. Even
then I knew that that like I didn't like one
hundred percent didn't quite fit in. But sort of. And
as I began to grow, I started having visions and
dreams of seeing people, places and things that I didn't

(03:50):
I didn't recognize. Yeah, but yet I felt very comfortable
and all of that as well. And one of the
things I remember the most I did this quite often.
I was flying and there'd be somebody guiding me and
we'd fly. We wouldn't go into space, we stayed more
or less on Earth, but we would fly. And there
were times even when at the age of like two

(04:10):
or three, I remember flying over just staring at my house,
my school and thinking, Wow, this is so cool because
you see the clouds and just be hanging there looking
at everything. It was amazing. And of course as a child,
I was of course focused on video games and cartoons
and things, but I knew that those were dreams. I
knew that those were real.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, groof of it was it was it like astral
projection or were you like really there flying?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It could have been both, because I mean it seemed
very very real. Yeah. And I remember as a kid,
even going outside at night just staring at the stars
and the skies, like feeling like like I got a
place up there, which I did. I didn't have all
the clues together at the time, because most kinds tachies

(05:01):
when they have contact at a young age, when they
were brought back, they don't remember everything necessarily because the
the ets were a lot of times they were they
were block parts of that out of your memory because
they don't want that to affect your day to day
life growing up. So you have a purpose on Earth,
otherwise you wouldn't be here, And if you had all
that knowledge while you were here on Earth, you would

(05:23):
be side attacked from your purpose on Earth. And I
was that way, but I would know bits and pieces
of things, so I knew that contact rare. As a kid,
I would stare at the sky and just looking for
my home up there, which I knew, knew that there
was home up there somewhere.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, I've always had this.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
When I look at the moon, it just it feels familiar,
you know, right, So, oh.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Go ahead. So as I began to get older, and
I came more like seven years old, eight years old,
some of the experiences and all that seemed to die
down a little bit. But then once I became a
teenage they began to again pick up. And one of
the earliest memories. One of the best memories I have
was in nineteen ninety six. It is between in February

(06:10):
and April, and we just moved into my grandparents' house.
At the time, we had lived in a smaller house
and my grandfather passed away, so we kind of swopped
houses with the grandmother. So we had this big country
house that we lived in, and we still have the house.
And one night I was in there sleeping or went

(06:31):
to bed, and all of a suddenly I found myself
standing in the in the dining area of our previous house,
and down from down the stairs, which is right next
to the dining room table at the old house, came
this beautiful, beautiful white angel. I'm thinking, I've never met

(06:53):
anybody literally that beautiful. And I said to myself, if
I could meet somebody that beautiful, this world would be
so perfect.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And he sat down on a chair, dining chair, and
I sat down and we just embraced. I had the
feeling like she was either a mother or a future
or my future wife per se, but I didn't know
which one. I just know she was so beautiful and loving.
When we hugged each other, there was a feeling like
I knew her from somewhere, So that's when I began

(07:22):
to think she must be my mother. And as I
got older, I began to realize that was my mother.
I'm up there. She came down in human form.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
That's that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
It is and one of those memories I never forget. Yeah.
Also around that same time, I didn't even experience this.
Even even a prior to that psychic abilities. I had
the ability to do things like people would be talking.
I would know that's not gonna work, or that is
gonna happen, or he is going to come and trying
to convince people of that. A lot of times, Oh

(07:58):
you don't know what you're talking about. Just be quiet.
And most of the time I would keep it to
myself because it wasn't an everyday affair. That's because I
didn't know how to turn it on and off. Now
I can just look at somebody and just by looking
at them, I could get details automatically. You could give
me a book of one hundred people, no no names,
no names extra, but I could look at everyone, look people.

(08:19):
I could tell you if they were good, bad, happy, said,
and possibly even who they are like I get a
download of information. Yeah something. From that point forward, I uh,
of course went to high school, junior high, high school,
and I used to watch this show on television and
called it was called more Public his talk show. Oh yeah,

(08:40):
And they had a woman on there periodically called Sylvia
Brown a psychic, and she'd be giving psyche dreaming because
I think I think I could do things like that.
I have the ability to op and I'm pretty sure
I do. And I'd watch her and I'd wat man,
I think I think I am having the same affection
abilities that she has named out as the longest she has.

(09:01):
She's doing a pretty good job. She's going to like
this and going yeah, nothing. So I tried to focus
on that more. I started studying things about, studying things
online about how to be sockey, how to tune in
and get your abilities going, and not a whole lot happened.
But then, of course I then graduated high school, and

(09:22):
around that time the experiences began to ramp up. They
became more prominent, I guess I should say more more noticeable,
per se, a lot more noticeable. And there were times
I would be visited almost on a lightly basis. They
would come in, and at this time, I still when

(09:45):
they would come in, I say still, I began to
even because I began to feel their presence more as
a child, I wouldn't feel their presence coming. They would
just take me, go find around and having having fun.
And now here I am out of high school now
and they're coming in and I'm seeing them their presence,

(10:06):
but they looked more like a somewhat of a shadow figure.
But I would hide from them because I was when
I knew they were coming, I didn't know pardon me,
pardon me, I understood it where I pardon me with
sore skirits. I would hide under the covers, and I
did it for a long time. But the problem was
when the problem. But the thing was once I would
get with them and that I was, I would go

(10:27):
up there with him. My memories were were unleashed, so
I would know where I'm at, who I'm with, Everything
was crystal clear. When i'd come back here later on,
my memories be erased, I would know I was somewhere,
and I would have visions, bits and pieces of information
and fake pictures, and I would think, now where was I?

(10:48):
Who was that?

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
By pardon by pardon me. Inside my heart said, well,
you know who they are, because it was wonderful. You
had a great time, and I did every night. Every
night they would come and I think, oh, here they come.
I'd hide, and then I'd go come, then I'd go.
When I come back, I was like, that was great.
I don't remember what all happened, but it felt wonderful.
And a lot of times during the day i'd be

(11:11):
I'd be going about my daily routines and jobs and stuff.
I would started getting I would have visions of like,
when did I do that? It must have been last night.
But when I do that, that must have been last
night too. And around that same time, I started watching
I show on television called ghost Hunters used to come

(11:32):
on the Sci Fi Channel and then they switched. But
I started getting into that, and I was talked at
first because I thought I thought ghost Hunting was just
like a movie with Bill Murray and Dan Eboard and
all that. To do this for real. Well, first I
was kind of bored at it because these guys were
just staring waiting for something to happen. I thought, this
is kind of boring. But I started watching it more

(11:52):
in morning got addicted to it, and I began researching
how to become a paranormal investigator. And around the same time,
I was also having And this is something that I
had the gift of as even as a kid, at
the gift of being able to heal and help other people.
I can literally take somebody does doesn't feel good, and

(12:13):
just by speaking to them and maybe saying a prayer
or something, I could heal their problems literally, Like let's
say they have a flu or a cold or almost
I could literally just by helping them and being there
and speaking to him, I could heal them. And I
noticed a pattern. I was always in the right place
at the right time to help somebody. I can literally

(12:34):
walk into a store and somebody's gonna choke, fall, buy
a car or something. I'd always be right there at
the right time. Now, I mean I don't mean once
in a while, I mean like every day, daily basis.
They could happen five times in one day. And the
problem was, at this point in my life, I was
going through this kind of an aggravated, uh, depressed and

(12:58):
mad at myself stage. I was mad because because I
began to realize I can't have a relationship I've tried.
Everything fails. I cannot get a high paying job. Everything fails.
The only thing I can do is have is hope
people and have experience. I love the experiences. But the
fact that I can't do a high paid job or
have a relationship, why is that every time I would

(13:20):
attempt to something would go wrong literally, And there was
a pattern that kept happening. And one day it said
something that was probably stupid to say, but I said,
there is more to life than me sitting around and
helping people and doing the same shi t every day.
It's ridiculous. And when I said that, I meant it

(13:42):
at the time. Later on, at this point, I'm in
my mid twenties, maybe twenty three, twenty four, maybe even
twenty five around there. One day I began to realize,
maybe the reason why I can I'm having all these
experiences at night and having all these gifts of being
able to help people because that is the best job
in the world. So one day I looked up to

(14:04):
the sky. I didn't know who I was talking to,
but a part of me knew who I was talking to,
and I said, I'll make a deal with you. I said,
you let me have a relationship and high paying job.
I problem is I'll always help other people. I put
that job first above everything else. Well, a matter of days,
I got a call from the Travel Channel and want
me to do a paranormal show with him.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
And then later on, then just a few weeks after that,
I met a team of investigators, paranormal investigators that were local,
and they hired me more or less right down the spot.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And then of course, but then just two weeks later
we started, we started doing our show, We signed contracts.
Just two weeks later start doing our paranormal shows on
Amazon Prime. So more everything everything was just booming, just
like that, Yeah and yeah. And then about that same time,

(14:56):
that pandemic hit and then everything went.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
But I didn't let that stop me. During that time,
I began to research, Okay, what can I do with
my time? I had to do something. So I realized
one passion I had was becoming a professional photographer to
online schooling and became a certified professional photographer and I
have my own business now called The World Photography. And
around the same time, I let's see, that would have

(15:24):
been around twenty twenty, So around that same time, one
night I had the idea, I'm going to face my
fears of the ets that come at night because I
love my experiences with him, I'm always fighting on them
when they come. So one night I decided to when
they come, I'm gonna look directly at it. There's nothing

(15:46):
to be a yeah, I know that. So I did,
and there's this gentleman with the said kind of turn.
He's smiling at me like kaye's time, I'm here for you,
let's go or whatever. You had the biggest smile on
his face, and I thought, wow, and I wanted to
prove that he was really there. And at a white

(16:08):
Himalaya the Blue Eyes, which is also in ety or
was he was et as well? Found that out. I
looked back to see because he always slept right behind me,
I wanted to look he could see this too, to
verify that this is real. And my cash was looking
at him like, yeah, it's just him, Okay. So I
faced my fears, and from that point forward, I began

(16:30):
to From that point forward, I began to have more memories,
like I would go back and remember everything or not everything,
but more.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
And around that same time, the experiences UH stopped briefly
they stopped, but they were happening more like every once
every few weeks, and and my abilities to heal and
help heal and help other people began to increase. I
had people that were that I'm the little would be

(17:00):
right behind let's say it, standley right in front of
you and next thing you know, you pass out in
my arms. Or or I'd walk out to your parking lot, Bam,
you're somebody's going to hit by a car. I'd grab
them real quick. Yeah, I mean just it was constantly
get getting more and more and more, and had people
literally praising me, think, well, I don't know what to
do if you weren't here. And that's when I began
to realize, Okay, I'm doing the right thing in life.

(17:22):
And once the pandemic ended. At this point, I had
my own photography career going on, and then I met
the person who I'm with now. She is my best
friend forever. Her name is Rachel, and I don't know
what I do without her because she because we give
each other strength and courage, so like one looks the
other rep constantly. And during that time, this was during

(17:44):
the pandemic, the strangest thing happened so if the pandemic
maybe hadn't happened, I wouldn't have heard this word. And
if I had, and if we'd have been out investigating
doing our shows, I may not have heard this word.
But one of the one of the guys in our team,
said come over and hang out for a day. So
I did, and he put out of this car. Was
sitting on talking and he pulls out this little card.

(18:05):
He said, y'all doing move on? So what's the move on?
He says, investigate UFOs. When he said that word, I mean,
it was like the whole room of let up. Yeah, immediately, Okay,
that's my next step. So of course getting into move
on's an easy test. You got to study this book
about you think. We also got to have a background

(18:27):
in US and that's trod at me in various things
where I took that book and I memorized that son
of a dun word to point where I could literally
recite recited my fleet. If you're on spaceship, you don't
have time to recite UFO books, but if you're up
there you don't have to. Anyways, but I memorized I
took my examination, I failed, So I took the book

(18:52):
and memorized the word for word again and film. So
I took the book the third time. I rememorized every
single word in that book to where I can literally
say every little word, and I asked my examination by
maybe just missing one question. Then of course I had
to go into their uh they have a they have
their online courses that you take along astronomy and various topics.

(19:12):
So I went through and went through all that, aced
everything and became air I feel investigated with moufon UFOs.
And it was there I began to realize other people
I've had similar experiences as me, and then other people
have even seen some of the they some of the
same entities I have. And then one night, uh, everything changed.

(19:36):
I got very very very ill, ill sick with a cold,
very sick, and I was lying in bed. I began
to question my life and everything. I began questioning things
because normally and I forgot this part of the story.
But ever since I was a kid, I've always been
I want to stay very very healthy. There there were

(19:59):
times I would think I would started to come down
with something and then within a matter of moments or hours,
I would be healed instantly, and I knew it was
my family from up there in space, that we're healing
my et family. I knew. I didn't approve of it,
and they never said that we're healing you, but I
knew it was them. And there was one that I
add one hundred and seven degree temperature, and within the

(20:20):
hour it was gone. Wow, I prove it was one
and seven, but I know it was very very high,
and with it was gone. And so here I am
with my in bed, very very sick, and not feeling
worth a hoot. And I started questioning my life, and
I said, if you can hear me, I said, please,

(20:40):
as a healing, give me a sign that everything I'm
doing is preped They never came. The whole night. They
never came. I couldn't understand why they didn't come this time?
Why why am I going through this? Mate? Then and
then I began to think, well, maybe I can't feel
the fact that they are here. I know they're not here,
otherwise I would know it. Next morning I woke up
and everything was I was here. So I went to

(21:04):
work during my shift. At work, during my shift, this
woman comes through, comes through the story dressed all in black,
and I had the strangest feeling. I know her from
somewhere and she's gonna say something to me. And the
more and the closer she got, the more I began
to feel like, Okay, I know her from somewhere. And

(21:25):
then then I thought, who in the world is this?
And then she walks up to me. She goes, just
wanted to let you know you're doing a good job,
and and she started to walk away. She's top. She
started to walk away. She stopped, and she turns around
and she says to me, and I quote, she goes,
just let you know you will get rewarded for all
this work.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And she said that a light bull but everything came
flighting back. She was one of my one of my
either family members or for another person on the ship
that I know came flighting back to me. And then
after she made those last few words, uh, you will
get rewarded for all this she she hated away. I

(22:07):
said that the person next to you, I said, I
said to the person next to you, and I said,
that was weird what I said, that woman in black
what never mind he didn't hear, but fear at all. Wow,
do you have any questions for me? Before I go
any further.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, so, uh, when you found mouf On, was that
the first time that you found other people who had
had these same experiences as you.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Ah, Yes, other than maybe a few paranormal experiences, that
was the first time I never had anybody knew anybody
that had each experience.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah. I feel like people even now don't talk about
that part of it as much as they're willing to
talk about seeing ghosts.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, before I heard, before I learned about mouf On,
I did see in a UFO movie or show, not
that I recall.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's only I feel like it's only
resently it's starting to really take off. And you said,
these experiences that you've had, they were all really positive,
but you are still kind of afraid of them, like
because you didn't know when they were coming.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, I mean all the experiences were very, very positive,
but knowing that okay, here in the hour, I feel
somebody's here m hm, that was scary because because the me,
the me in the present, didn't have the four memories
like Okay, that's Sydney, or that's John, that's that's so
and so. Yeah, once once, once, I would go up
there with them my memories were unglued. I knew everything. Yeah,

(23:28):
in fact, here here shortly I would be tell you
what the ship looks like.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And the psychic powers that you had, you said they
got stronger the more you had these visits. Was it
sort of like that was almost coming from them.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
The psychic powers that I had, they were given to me.
But the strangest thing is now that I'm older, I
have the ability to turn on and off. Like I
could look at you and I could read everything about you,
but I can also look at you and know nothing too,
because there's a switch, not a switch that I can

(24:03):
just there really no way that's fribe other than you
just know how to do what you do.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, it's just taking time to learn how to control
it fully.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Right Yeah all right, okay, so let's see where to
leave off at. Oh yeah, So after she left left
that day, she gave me that message. I literally had
down and cried. That message was so beautiful and it
was really assuring. Okay, there are with me at all times.
So then one day I was in a I was

(24:34):
in a meeting UFO type meeting, and everybody was contacting
their spirit guides. Everybody was that was on the zoom everybody,
Mine's here, Mine's here, Mine's here, Mine's here, and I said,
I'm my nager yet And about that time I had
this shot right here. Okay, yeah, you are here. Okay, okay.

(24:56):
I never doubted them since then. Ye, so here we
are at this part of the story. This would have
been on our twenty twenty three. I had met my
best friend ever, Rachel, and she was became one of
the best persons I've ever met, and so I also

(25:20):
at this point during my time with Mouffont, somebody was
discussing remote viewing and I wanted to look research what
is remote viewing? No, kid, it's about being able to
get information and figure things out just with a piece

(25:40):
of paper and a pencil. After this and interesting, but
I already know a lot of things, just like being psyched,
and so I decided I want to become a remote viewer.
So what I did was I went online and I
found a place, the Remote Viewing Institution. I believe it's
called I have to look it up, but I took

(26:02):
an online course and got certified as a remote viewer.
And shortly after that I began because I already had
a psychiness to me and what I found, what I
found work best for me because when I was doing
remote viewing the way that they were teaching it, that
didn't work for me. But I could do remote viewing

(26:24):
my way, and I could ace everything. I could ace
every target, I could do everything better doing it my
way than trying to do it their way. And then
I realized something. Every person, even you can be, can
do remote viewing. But every person has their own wavelength
of how they perceive information. So you could follow a

(26:47):
a do this, this, this and this, and you may
fail every time. But if I was to use my
psychic abilities figure out, Okay, here's how you want to
learn this, here's how you need to learn this. I
could teach you in a half hour. You can remote
for you perfectly. Because I teach you how to tap
into your own abilities that you don't even know you have.
I can see where they're at, I can use I

(27:08):
can I can use specific language to teach you how
to do all of this, because if I teach you
in the words that you understand or words that you
like that you relate to, because everybody has certain words
they like or certain words that they use. A lot.
If I teach you how to do all of this
with your own type of language, you can do a
perfect job. And I've taught and I started teaching remote viewing,

(27:29):
and when I met Rachel, she began she's started assisting
me in all this. And between the two of us
we have we have taught her with three hundred people,
way over five hundred classes or thereabouts, and never had
one person that could not walk away as a remote
viewer except that that that that can literally one lady

(27:51):
that We have a lady that comes in our class
case she's already certified, but she comes into our class occasionally.
Her name is I won't say her name, but she's
a lawyer by the way. And her first day in class,
she aised her first homework assignment having never done this
before because of the way tea she was picking up

(28:11):
art instantly because I'm able to tap in, God, I
know how she needs to learn this, so using what
can you using what I know to make it work
for her, and she used her first first assignment.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Now, so anybody out there is listening, if you want
to take my online remote viewing course, contact me. I'm
sure you can probably put the email up or something
to chat and just contact me through the email and
you can take our online remote being courses. They're they're
very cheap because I don't work for money. I work
to help people and I work out with glove up there.

(28:44):
They don't work for money, they work for love, and
I work for I work. I love to help people. Yeah,
and I think Rachel will maybe here if you want
to bring her in.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, Rachel, you want to join us?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Okay, Hello, Hello, how are you good? Good?

Speaker 6 (29:02):
I'm just I've just been here listening.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah. Yeah, did you want to talk about your experiences
with remote viewing?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Sure, so I guess, like Chris said, like, uh, you know,
we we became friends a few years ago, but before that,
I hadn't really done like any remote viewing, and like,
to be honest, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Even think, you know, I didn't even think I could
do that.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
I had some sort of like experience like doing other things,
like other sort of psychic phenomenon, but I didn't really
I didn't really understand remote viewing. But I you know,
I took the class, and you know, after that, like
I started I started being able to like actually do it,

(29:51):
and then I got really excited about it, and then yeah,
I just and then Chris asked if I, you know,
if I could help with the class, so then I
started doing that, and yeah, it's been it's been a
good experience so far.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
What makes her so unique is the fact that before
she joined My My, Meet Me as an assistant that
meet Me with teaching, I was given out homework assignments
basically on landscapes and lakes and rivers and animals and
different things, basically the same thing every week or not
every week, but every year out of teaching, and it
was getting kind of boring to give out the same

(30:29):
things all the time. But the but the students, of course,
they never saw that target before that homework before she
came along, and she was adding more things to the
to the homework. She was giving up very unique homework assignments,
like picking things that I wouldn't even think of, And
the students were getting very excited because they love the
things that she picked. They love her her fun targets,

(30:53):
her stuft animals, her unique things that she she I
would ever think of, and so they really got it,
really got a kick out out of They love her homework.
Assignments and so getting back to my pathway. There was
also a kind of a dark side all this as well,
and that was the fact that I was having a
lot of a missing time experiences. I know where the

(31:16):
missing time was. I was with my et family. I'll
never forget one night.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Say something about that really quickly. Yeah, So Chris and I,
so we were like we were chatting back and forth
one night, and like all of a sudden, he just
like he just disappears, like you know, like you know,
I'm messaging him and he's just like not responding. So
I'm like, okay, whatever, like he fell asleep or something.

(31:45):
The next day he's like, I have no idea what
happened last night, Like he had like this missing time
and that's and yeah, it just was. It was just
really really crazy to me, honestly.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah. So getting back what she's discussing, So we were
on the phone talking to each other, and I said
something very weird because because okay, so I so, so
when I went to school from like pre pre k
or or whatever, go up to high school, everything I
did was on paper and pencil, and so now they

(32:20):
got these technique, these devices called the cell phones, my
trapping skills on the cellophone is about as high class
as a beavers behind. So I'm always missed typing things.
And so I missed something to her. Well, she was
laughing about it, and listen and now here's here's the
key to this. Okay, she was laughing, just laughing, and

(32:42):
I said, go ahead and get it out of your system.
Laugh all you want. And when I started getting I
said get it out of your system. I said, well, am,
I spoke, get out of bed now. It's nine thirty
in the morning, just like that, like instantaneously, and I
and I stopped, and I thought, wait a minute, one

(33:02):
of the world's going on. So I looked at my
wristwatch that had on the table, which is I have
it on right now for those who want to see
the same watch, and I had something didn't seem right,
so I had to retrace my steps. Okay, I'm on
the phone with the Rachel. She's laughing, and that's all

(33:26):
I remember. So I went ahead and got up, did
my morning routine and went to get dressed. I closed
were scattered across the room, not one normally keep usually
keep them stack like this. On top of this, they
were scattered, and then I thought, Okay, this is another
one of those experiences. But this seemed a little bit odd.

(33:47):
This didn't seem like a normal experience normally, when when
I when I get taken normal, I'm normally already in
a chair, relaxing or in bed and then I come back.
This was a little bit different. And I spent better
part of the whole day because she was resting up
for work late that night, but I was up walking

(34:08):
around that day trying to piece everything together. At some
point in the afternoon, I started getting visions being surrounded
by eight ETS. Now I know somebody very very well
who has had a very similar experience on this particular
vision that I had, I'm surrounded by a ETS, and

(34:29):
I didn't know at the time, well I didn't think
about it at the time, but what they were doing
was they were preparing me for my next level, my
next mission, my higher up level. And it was until
I heard this other person I won't say her name,
they had the comment about that when she had the
same experience, and when she said next level, that's when

(34:53):
I just started to getting Okay, Now, I'm starting to
remember at the time when I had that vision, of
being shout beatings. I had a feel like it was
my next mission. I didn't quite have it all piece together,
but I was pretty sure. And then after that nothing
happened for over a year, which that brings us now
to twenty and twenty five. There was an earlier this year,

(35:21):
or was it it was earlier this year? There was
one incident where I had it was either earlier this
year or November December of last year. I can't recall
right off hand. But this is not a joke. I
mean this is I remember this very well. I was
sitting in the same chair i'm in now. I had
been eating potato chips and watching it is a show

(35:44):
that me and the Rage were watching a lot called
The Wi Files, and I think that's what we were watching.
But anyways, I fell asleep, which is not un common
for me to fall asleep, around two or three in
the morning. I fell asleep, and when I woke up,
honest thing I said to myself, and I was gone
for two weeks. I said that out loud to myself.

(36:06):
I was gone for two weeks. I didn't even know
why I said that. I just blurted it out to
myself and that's remembering. Okay, I remember being a board craft. Wow,
was I gone for two weeks? Because because when I
woke up, I didn't have no idea what day of
the week it was or nothing. My mind was like
like an complete fog. Yeah, and I mean literally the fog.

(36:28):
And listen, And for those listening, if you've never had
missing time, and this is honest to God truth, and
I would, I mean, this was all honesty. When you
have missing time, and this is the honest truth, it
is the most confusing, freaking thing you ever had. If
you don't know what's going on, it's very confusing. And
there in fact, before I even met Rachel, there were

(36:49):
there were times that I have missing time and I
would literally stare at the wall all night long find
a piece together. And there was always a part of
me that knew, okay, it's okay, it's all peaceful. There's
also that that that thinking part of me, that left
side of my brain because the right side of your
brain has all the knowledge that your left side doesn't
have the left side of the brain before you walk, talk,
and sleep. Your right side is the psychic side. And

(37:11):
so I was thinking, so when you have missing time,
the right side may store all the memories that your
left side doesn't have access to. That does happen, And
so I was so by missing times even as a kid,
I would sit there and just stare at the wall,
trying to figure it all out. And who do you
tell all you're just dreaming, all you're just you're just
having sleep problems whatever. Yeah, but no, no, no, no,

(37:35):
So which brings us I've seen down to twenty twenty
five and the experience, and of course I had Oh,
I did have past life regression done at hypnotherapy done.
This is before I got certified. This is uh last
year or the year before. Rachel remember the date better

(37:56):
than me. I think it was last year. Had Yeah,
I had hypnotherapy done, And during that time I was
able to go back and recall everything about the spaceship
on my live purpose, which I knew my live purpose
is to heal and help other people. So while I
was having hypnotherapy done, and I began to recall the spaceship,

(38:17):
which the spaceship is a black ship, and this ship
does not fly stage ground, and that is like the
base or the home base. There are little ships that
come out of that that we fly around in and
inside this big ship. We have rooms. One of them
is the healing room. That that's where we take individuals
like yourself. That if I cannot heal you, heal you

(38:40):
just by speaking to you and doing remote viewing, because
I can do remote viewing healing. And that's what I mean, Rachel.
Do we heal people through remote viewing? If I cannot
healing you, or one of us can heal you, we
take my family, my dad and I or a family
take you on this spaceship and we have a healing room,
and this room we can healing. What happened says. There's

(39:00):
a grid on the floor. It's like a grid. The
best way I can describe this grid is almost like
you know what the greats on a grill look like. Yeah,
it's like that, but these are blue. And we lay
your body on there and my family or my father
will take his hands on the wall and he programs

(39:22):
it by doing this, programs it to your specific needs,
and this blue light will come up over the grid me.
It doesn't make any sound though, and it heals you.
And then we take you back. And people have asked
me to do I ever walk around the ship and
see everything. No, my job pretty much is a state

(39:43):
in that healing room with my father. My father is
mainly the one I'm in the room with the most.
Right next door to that is my room. My room
is gray, It has nothing in it. I almost think
I can probably manifest or think what I want and
it'll appear. I don't know, I don't have any. My
memories mainly are on the healing room. But I remember,

(40:05):
remember the earlier part of the story of I told
you about the woman in white, the white angel. Yes, okay,
that is my mother. She works in the nursery on
the ship, nurse the kids. And I've seen that room
a couple of times a hip probably now mind, I
probably have seen more the more of the ship than

(40:25):
what I can recall. Yeah, but she's in the in
that healing room and she and she watches little kids
and there and these are just they could be just
I don't know if they're et kids or actual like
people like us, so a combination of the two. I
don't know. But she sits in a chair and plays
with the little kids and keeps keeps an eye on them. Yeah,

(40:47):
that's I remember that. And I also remember, like I
seen in my room and then the healing room.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
And so during twenty twenty five I began to research. Well,
actually I got notified by somebody and move on. A
friend of mine who said that a move on. Our
organization like likes to have hypnotherapists in every state. That way,
if somebody will, as somebody in Florida needs a hypnotherapists

(41:16):
to do past life regression or just to just for
help in general, he doesn't want to go clear to
let's say Texas for a hypnotherapist. He wants he wants
somebody local, and so move on. We're looking for hypmotherapists
have one for each state, and so I agreed to
do that Illinois. And so I went through an online

(41:39):
course and got certified with the National Goal H Hypnosis.
So now I am a certified hypno therapist. And this
was back in June or July July actually when I
started taking the course in May. We got done around July,
got my certification. So now I can do and have
my own business. Now it's Other world hypnosis and you

(42:01):
can go on Facebook and find that in book a
session with me anybody. Again, it's Other Worlds. You'll see
my face. Yeah, we can do anything from stress, anxiety,
of smoking, habits, drug addiction, anything you want, including past
life regression and past life regression is great because I'm
taking a course on that right now. I can already

(42:22):
do the past life regression. I'm taking a course to
get my certification in that as well. And so et
experiences are still going on, although they had had an
experience here recently, which I will get to before I
get to that, Is there any questions for me or
Rachel or any of us.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Well for Rachel, have you have you had any contact
experiences as well?

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Yes, mine haven't been as like in depth as Chris.
As Chris, I mean, unless they wiped my memory. But
I I've seen craft in the sky like a couple
of times and then like the so the first time
I had the experience where I saw them outside like

(43:14):
so I was, I was like in my dorm room
at the time, and I heard this like I don't
know what it was, but it was like something was
telling me to go, like look out the window, and
so I go, and I look up the window and
I see this like it's it's like a pretty big
craft and then it like so I'm watching it go

(43:34):
in a line, and then all of a sudden, it
like zips off and it's just.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Like poof gone.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
And I was just okay, that was now that was weird,
Like Okay, I don't know what to make of that.
And I felt like they kind of stuck around for
like a couple of days because like I could like
I don't know, I don't know why, but like I
could feel them sort of like their presence. I don't
know what they were. And then after that, I saw

(44:03):
another one actually recently. It was like maybe six months ago.
What's crazy is when I saw it, it was already
like starting to wipe my memory. So I think I
told you about Chris, or I was telling somebody about this,
like walking from Walgreens and I see this like thing

(44:24):
in the sky. It's really bright and then it disappears,
and I was like, oh wow, I gotta tell somebody that,
And I think I told either you Chris, or I
told somebody else. Anyway, I tell somebody about that, and
later on I actually forgot that happened because somebody like
goes to me and they're like they're like, hey, like
you know, tell me more about that thing. You saw

(44:46):
that UFO and I was like, I don't know what
you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
What I don't know?

Speaker 6 (44:54):
Oh? And then and then I sat with it and
I was like, oh, yeah, like remember that. That was
basically wiping it was being wiped from my memory because
like I couldn't even remember it until got job.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
I think I remember that. You started to lay down
that night and you said, wait a minute, did I
see a UFO or something?

Speaker 6 (45:18):
Oh? No, it well, it was like it was like
someone had to like tell me about it before it
like jogged my memory. But if someone hadn't like reminded me,
I would have just completely forgotten about, Like I would
not have remembered.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
That at all.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
That's that's kind of like the extent of it. But
unless other things have happened and like you just don't remember,
I mean that's very possible.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah, have you tried doing any of the past life
regression hypnosis or anything like that to try to see
if there's anything you're not remembering?

Speaker 6 (45:53):
No, I have not done that. Probably should do that,
I'm might I might do that at some point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
No, that's that's entirely fair of just not being ready
to do it yet.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
Well, no, no, I'm I'm ready. I just I have
this weird fear that like I'm not going to be
able to be like hypnotized. Like I'm like, I'm willing
to go through with it, but like I'm not afraid
or anything of whatever it is. They'll fine. I'm just
I'm mostly just afraid that I'm not going to be
able to be hypnotized.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
But we'll see.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
I'll definitely try it though.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
What I'll do now is I'll discuss some of the
love that I've gotten from the ETS, but then I'll
tell you about incidentive that happened recently, like very recently.
So one thing I've learned from my ET experiences is
that it's all about love. And I know that because
a couple of years ago, I had a dream, not

(46:59):
a dream, it was real. But I was with my
father aboard the spacecraft. And and this is the honest,
honest to God truth. I've been feeling a little down
and upset even then, and I went aboard craft and
my father was on the other side of the of
an empty room, and all of a suddenly, and this

(47:21):
is the truth, the whole room was in the gulf,
and what I can only describe as and people have
often said this before about their experiences, the most mhm
full full in gulf in all this love, like the
confused with the humongous amount of love. And we embraced

(47:42):
each other and and and the message that I got
from him was it's okay, you are love.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
There is love.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
And then I also heard him say that love is
all you need and all there is. And but the
room was just infused with love. And when I will
when I came back to I still have felt all
that love. And I remember every second of that incident
without at that moment, and having been a board craft

(48:12):
as many times as I have, I don't know how
many times I've been a board craft. I've never counted.
I don't even know if I could, but it's always
there's always so much love on the on the craft.
But this particular time that I described was the biggest amount,
the amount of love I've ever went through. And so
an incident that happened recently, and I'll go ahead and

(48:33):
save this. This is very unique. And I've never been
taken in broad daylight ever, I've never never, never, never
been gone in daylight. It's always been at night and
you know what's funny is and anybody out there listening,
let me put in the chat room or something. If
you ever had this. Every time I've been taken, it's
always been around night nine.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
I think he's gonna say.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Yeah, I wanted to telephones.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, that's that's really interesting because that's very consistent. The
last lifelong contact tee that I had on the show
was Nancy Timms. I don't know if you know her
at all, but she had very similar experiences where she
had that same feeling of just being surrounded by love,
and they were kind of telling her that they don't
make more contact with humanity because we're not really loving
enough as a species for them to be safe with that.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Yet.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
No, they want to come down and give us all
the togetherness and love, they don't because we're not all
on the same way, like not ready for me.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yep, that's that's exactly what she was saying too. So
I think that's really interesting that both of your experiences
are very similar in that.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
I I just I just heard something in in my
of here that said messenger. So I don't know what
that meant, but I just got the word messenger that
came to me, so maybe other thing. You're a messenger, Chris,
I don't know. But getting back to this incident happened recently.
I've never been taking a broad daylight, but this one particularly,

(50:10):
this was just within like four to six weeks ago,
maybe seven. I was at my day job. It was
three thirty in the afternoon, okay, And where I work,
we have to take turns going out to grab the
grocery cars. Well, I do a little bit of everything
at this job. I'm not just one. I do everything

(50:31):
from cleaning to bagging. I'm well rounded. Of course, I've
been there twenty seven years. I don't plan to be
there a whole lot longer. But we'll see, hopefully not
fingers crossed. But anyway, three third in the afternoon, three thirty.
I went out to grab the grocery carts at three thirty, okay,

(50:52):
at three fifty I came back in. But while I
was out there, I heard it like a light buzzing sound.
And so at three fifty I came back in and
I'm bagging uh groceries, and I made and the customer
was talking. I made the comment, I said, well, it's
about ten to four, three fifty and she says, no,

(51:14):
it's five o'clock. I said, it's not five o'clock. So
I looked at my wristwatch. The wristwatch says three fifteen.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
I looked at my phone. My phone says five. The
computers at the store say five o'clock. And then wanted
to cash. One of the ladies of the service came
and she says, it's time for your break. Looking for
you for an hour, we couldn't find you.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Literally, she said, we look for you for an hour,
we could't find you. Where were you? I and I
I was outside and that and I tried to think
back what happened. I didn't have any recollection of doing
anything outside other than I remember going outside, hearing the
hearing the light buzzing sound in my ear. That's all
I remember. Everything else is come plete link. Yeah. Yeah,

(52:02):
it was gone for over now, but it only seemed
like it only it seemed like it was instantaneous to me.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, it's one of the few daytime experiences you've had then, and.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
This particular experience, I don't have any visions or memories
of it at all. I mean nothing, I mean, it's
just a complete like like a like a blink.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
Yeah, Chrissa, I noticed that you keep talking about your
et family, but you haven't really like described them or
like mention what they look like, you know, mentioned I
don't know if you wanted to say, like what they are,
what they look like? You know, I don't.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah, for my et family. For the longest time, as
a child, they came to meet in human form. It wasn't.
It wasn't until that day when I finally had the
courage to pull the coverage down and look at who
was there. That's when I saw them in their in
their true form, which is they're praying mantis. Now, mind you,
before I started Moufan, I didn't talk to them. I
did I. Before I joined Mufan, I didn't. I didn't

(53:02):
refer to them as the praying mantis. I always thought
the at times I would see them in their natural form,
there was to me, it looked more like a large grasshopper.
I was told the praying mantis. But when they come
sometimes in three different ways. I mean, nowadays they come
in their true form. As a kid, growing up, they
always came in human form. And but this is the thing. See,

(53:25):
we were all made by one source. We're all made
by the same Some of us call it God, other
people call it. The ets call it source. They call
it source. They don't call it God, they say source
or higher power as they prefer to it. Ass we're
all made by the same thing, and so so we're
all human in a lot of ways. All of us are.

(53:46):
Even animals are are considered like a human man because
we're all made by the same thing. And around twenty
twenty let's see, this is twenty five, So around twenty
twenty three was when I lost my at the time,
or one of my best friends, my cat. Me and
me and my cat were like this, and no matter

(54:10):
what would happen, it didn't matter if I was to
having experiences or not. Every night when I would go
to bed, my cat would come down and delay on
the floor and he would protect me from anything negative
for like twenty minutes or so. Once I fell asleep
or or would leave or whatever whatever would happen, he
would go back to his bed. You'd always lay there

(54:31):
for like twenty minutes and wait, wait, make sure I
was safe. And he was very smart. I mean, he
knew everything before you'd even say it, Like he knew
if I had to go to work. If I didn't,
you knew it. Every night, every night, for like twenty minutes,
we would put our heads together like this, and put
our heads together. We would sit there for twenty minutes
like this, and we would like communicate with each other.

(54:52):
Just by doing this, we knew what each other was
staying and thinking. And when he died, that was a
huge heartbreak. And I mean, and I held him in
my arms the night that he passed away. I picked
him up and he looked at me, and you saw
it was me, and then you got real calm, and
then he just passed. Yeah, And people ask him how

(55:13):
many how come you haven't got a new cat or
a new new animal. I said, you can't replace the
best friend.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
And so here we are. Now it's two thousand. It
is October twenty twenty five. Almost hard to say August,
but it's October now.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
I think it's it's November now.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
November now.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, it's snuck up on us.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Missing time again. No, just kidding. Yeah, here it is
October two thousand, November twenty twenty five. I'm doing hypnotherapy.
I'm doing courset, doing all the UFO work I worked
in two areas and move on. I'll go ahead and
say this. The first area I work in is fuel investigating.
That's where we investigate UFO sidings that people report, and

(56:00):
that we get quite a few sightings a month, sometimes
more than others. And our our reports basically, we contact witnesses,
we interview them, they fill out paperwork, and we never
say on our paperwork, we never say they had a
UFO encounter. You always say they have a sighting. Yes,
But the sighting could be anything. It could be a

(56:21):
lamp post that they misstoke as the UFO, It could
be a it could be a corvet or just simply
headlights reflecting. Anything could be what people think they saw.
They refer they think they had a UFO siding. Once
we investigated, oh that was simply this or a planet
or there's various things that we go through. We have

(56:41):
a list that we check off, Okay, was it this.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
No weather, balloons, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
A lot of airplanes and stuff too as well. That's
and then of course we contact the witness in the
end and let them know, Okay, Low, we're contacting you.
Let you know we finished our report and what we
found out was at the tame time you had your sighting,
there were two aircraft cartonal air jets flying over your area,
and that's probably what you saw. And then okay, matches

(57:08):
up because because if if an airplane is flying over
at ten forty five at the same time you had
your UFO side, Okay, that's probably what you saw. Yeah,
And that's the first area I work and the second
area I work in is the It is a group
where we work with people who are having PTSD or suffering,

(57:29):
not to say suffering, but being contacted by ETS. Now,
some people recall or say that they've been abducted, and
that is not true. There's you're not abduct abductors. When
you're kidnapped by somebody who's taking a child, taking you
or kidnapping you. When you have an at in counter,

(57:51):
you voluntarily go. You don't realize you do, but you
do voluntarily go in a way you do, you do
allow it. And so you're not being abducted, You're being you.
You're being helped, being healed, or being guided in your
life path. And so many people that I've worked with
in this group, because I work at people sometimes sometimes
every week I'll contact somebody, how are you doing today,

(58:12):
anything else, I unhelp you with how you're feeling. Every person,
every person I've worked with, they always say most of
them say that it's all that that they've been healed.
It was a wonderful contact. Some people I work with
what I call the contact that they have fear at first,
a lot of fear. But then once I speak to
them and and and help them, then they begin to realize, Okay,

(58:35):
it wasn't as fearful as I thought it was. It
wasn't as bad as I thought it was, because at first,
when you have contact, you know, you don't you don't remember,
and relatively scary. Yeah, and then once you begin begin
to understand everything, Wait a minute, Okay, it wasn't as
scary as I thought it was. It was much more

(58:56):
peaceful than I thought it was. I just I just
misunderstood the signals because when they when when they come
back a lot of times they don't realize that at first.
But wait a minute, I don't have that problem anymore.
My lake feels better, or my opinion it's gone.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah, they're just kind of so freaked out they don't
necessarily realize that they were also healed. In the process
right now.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Not not Every person that I've worked with has had
positive experiences. There's been some that's been negative. I will
say there's been some, but a lot of times one
wants to understand it more. They realize it's not as
bad as they thought it was. But sometimes it can be.
I've had people who have had some negative There's been
some that have Like I'm still working I'm working with

(59:39):
the person right now who I've been working with her
for a couple of years now, and she still has
ongoing situations that we're still trying to figure out. Well,
not everything's positive, but a lot of it is. I
guess it depends on uh, because there are different races
that ets. There are there. There are something that we
call the Nordics, the councilor eight Council of seven. Various

(01:00:02):
pass and some are more positive than others. But then
some humans are more positive than others too. Yeah. But
are there questions, yeah, for us or anything you want
to ask.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
So with move On, what is the best way for
people to report if they've had a sighting?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
The best way to report a siding is to go
to move on dot com. You can report as hiding
two different ways. You can report having physical contact by
filling out a question there, or you can report having
a siding report like I saw a UFO in the sky.
Either way you want to report it awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
You are listening to strange talkcom radio or the fact
on at sixteen and sixty am in north Side M
ninety one point seven FMHD to w the XU instance.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
And happy and then I know sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
You know, recently there's been more of a debate of
people wanting to call them UAPs versus UFOs, and I
just want to see what your opinion was on that,
whether they're interchangeable or whether we should stick with UFOs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Or a lot of us in the UFO network or
UFO community we still use the term UFOs an unidentified
flying object. Some people do use the term UAP or
identified aerial phenomenon because either way or rather you stay
it's unidentified phenomenon or unidentified object. It's all basically means

(01:01:22):
the same thing. And the only thing we ever do
is we never say that they had a UFO encounter
because we never say that literally because of the fact
that there are so many other factors that could have
been involved. But once we rule everything out, Like, we
went through all of our checklists and we can't find
anything to just say to say that, okay, what you
saw was this or that, we have no proof many

(01:01:44):
State's unknown object or something that affair. Even if in
our hearts we believe it was UFO, we still say
unknown object.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Yeah, you say, well, we definitely can't explain that. Awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
We're almost at the end of our hour. Here. I
have some center cards here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Do you want to try to take a crack at
one of them?

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Sure? Before we do that, do want to make one
more one plug and that is everybody's the YouTube channel
and check out s w P I P can Something
Wicked Paranormal Investigations. I am a paranormal investigator with Something Wicked.
We are a great group of investigators. We've got new
episode is coming out really soon. We've been on by before,

(01:02:25):
We've done different locations. And if you go to YouTube,
go to our webs go there and you can watch
all of our episodes. We've got a great new episode
coming out. It's fantastic and I think there will be
pleased to see that. And yeah, I do see their cards. Yeah, sure, yeah,
we'll take it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
We'll take a crack at one. And also I will
have to have you back on to talk about that
as well, because and I was just not enough time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
To come back on. I'm bringing the whole group.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
We can do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
That would be great. So have you have you done
the Zenter cards before?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I'm guessing I, me and Rachel have kind of dabbled
at it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Yeah. The funny thing is I hadn't looked at this
one yet, and I've been thinking about it while we've
been talking, and I was able to guess which one
it was.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
So yep, I'm ready whenever you are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Okay, I'm going let me see if you haven't tapped
in here triangle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Oh sorry I said it before you you got a
chance to hold on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Let me grab another one, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Wavey lie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with waveyar myself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, square on that one, But sometimes it takes some
time to warm up too, So we'll do one more.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
I almost like a circle of octagon type shape.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Rachel star star.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
We get the cross on that one, but like I said,
usually it takes some time to warm up. That's whether
or not they're not my favorite thing. I'm sure they
may not be your favorite favorite tool either.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Okay, you always want to know before we exit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I think that's that's everything right now, but I'm sure
I will probably email you like twenty more questions after this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Please everybody sign up for our remote Viewing course if
you want, just contact me through my email. And hypnotherapy done,
it's Other World Hypnotherapy. And then of course our SWPI
Paranormal group. And don't forget to check out move on
dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yes, move on dot com, especially if you've had any
sightings of things that you can't explain. Well, thank you
both so much for coming on.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
Did you mention that you do healing as well, like
a healing course?

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Oh yes, I'm sorry, Yeah, you didn't mention the healing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Course also do remote healing as well. So once you
once you take our vote Viewing course, there are other courses.
There is remote healing, learn how to heal and help
other people. It's also revote influencing, which is similar to
kind of like the government mind control, but we do
it all for positive.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
There's there's our advanced courses and our remote time travel
course where you learn how to time travel through time
and I have proven that does work.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah, which again an hour is not enough because we
talk about all that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Be a part one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yeah, I think I think this should be a part one.
But again, thank you both so much for coming on
this is this has been so much fun getting to
talk about this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Thank you so much because we have to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Yeah, thank you. Well, on that, we'll go ahead and
sign up for night. So good night and good luck.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
So fine name, losing face, praise you, shame with your mind.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
I'll be careful for like you, like mind at a question,

(01:06:25):
same my rides.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Sis go.

Speaker 7 (01:06:47):
Every day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
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