August 15, 2025 • 62 mins
In 1965, a group of twelve US astronauts set foot on a distant planet in the Zeta Reticule Star System. Four years before Apollo 11 landed on the moon. All the details of Project Serpo were classified Top Secret but detail have leaked out. Here is what I could find.
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Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Chris James. Do
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room that is actually to the left of the counter.
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That's life. Things are called by the wrong name all
the time, for example public servant, which amounts to treat
somebody like royalty and make them rich. There are only
so many days in our lives, and drinking bad coffee
makes them badd If you're not in Laredo and still
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want the best coffee, go to Organicman Coffee Trike Dot shop.
One of my listeners asked if I had ever done
a show about Project Sirple. I said, no, but I
was going to I can't remember who asked, so if
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it was, you, let me know. I should have written
it down, But I forgot to write it down, and
so therefore I forgot who asked. A lot of my
research for shows involves way too many websites that mostly
say the exact same thing, the old cut and paste.
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You would think the folks putting out websites on any
subject would do a little work to make the information
of their own. I've seen the same mistakes and spelling
and grammar reprinted over and over as the creators of
these pages act as if they have discovered something new,
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when all they're actually doing is taking information from somebody else.
I'm a little paranoid about using my art bell coffee cup.
I'm afraid either me or one of the cats is
gonna break it. I might have to go back to
using my steel cup. If I drop it, nothing happens,
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It just makes a weird noise. While looking into Circle,
I found a whole new problem websites with completely different
information that you would think involved different subjects. The number
of bodies, the way the beings looked, by the way
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they interacted with humans, on and on it was almost
as if there were several different stories, all going by
the same name. I've said this before, and I will
say it again. I have no contacts feeding me secret
information or documents. I am not any good at hacking.
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I know how to turn my computer on and who
to run to when things go south. There's no reason
for the FBI, NSACIA, or any other alphabet agency to
pay me a visit. Everything I'm telling you is found
on the websites or in my massive book collection. I
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do theorize from time to time based on how some
information sounds or who's putting it out. I usually say
it's just my ideas, but sometimes I forget that too.
Back in two thousand and five, an anonymous source sent
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a bunch of emails to a UFO discussion group headed
by a former US government official, Victor Martinez. The messages
involved a top secret sp base program where United States
astronauts were taken to a planet called Sirpole in the
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Zeta Reticuli star system. A Zeta Reticuli are two stars
located in the southern constellation of the Reticulum A. Try
not to think about a particular part of your anatomy.
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It refers to a network or any reticulated system or structure.
The star system is composed of two sun like stars,
Zeta one and Zeta two, reticuli, located at a distance
of about thirty nine light years from Earth. Aliens called
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ebons from this planet lived here on Earth. The project
was named for the planet in orbit around both of
these stars. The person sending out these emails called themselves anonymous.
He or she said they were a retired government worker
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who had direct involvement with this project. When the crash
at Roswell took place, it involved two and sometimes three spacecraft,
depending on who you're reading. In the years after the
UFO crash, just outside of Cape Girardo, Missouri, in the
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spring of nineteen forty one, the government was ready in
waiting for the next one. A military unit had been
established and plans made in case there was a second crash.
In nineteen forty seven, the unit had its chance to
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spring into action and see to it no outside civilian
involvement occurred at Cape Girardo. Too many civilians were on hand,
and this would not do at all. That all that
alien technology was to be secreted away at Roswell, orders
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were sent to establish a perimeter, keep the area secure,
collecting and all debris, and convince any witnesses to keep
their mouths shut or else. At the crash site, a
bunch of alien bodies were found. There was also one
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living being found and it was taken into custody. I've
seen that joke video showing a gray being questioned by
unseen military officials and suddenly the being begins to choke
or something. The medic rush in and begin working on it,
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always being sure to keep the creature in the middle
of the screen and in focus. The medics are working
over this creature's shoulders as if that's how you do things. Yeah,
that's not how it's done. Shame on the mess. Yes,
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I watch bonehead truckers. Real truck drivers don't wear flip flops.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's another
channel that shows all the bad things that some truck
drivers have been doing, like wearing flip flops. Stories are
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out there on what exactly took place in nineteen forty seven.
Way too many folks trying to sell their books while
coming up with bizarre stories of Jap companies, prisoners of war,
or maybe they were parachute dummies anything to try to
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explain away the crash and at the same time sell
their books. I said, I had theories about things like this.
How do you make a story disappear? Once it's out there,
it's nearly impossible to erase. To make it go away,
you flood the place with stories that muddy the water
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until the real story becomes lost in a tremendous pile
of lies. The problem with the murder of JFK isn't
the lack of evidence. There is way too much pointing
in every direction except towards the truth. To make Roswell
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go away, the government created hundreds of alternative stories. Plus
they made fun of anybody trying to tell the truth
until anybody with a real account was afraid of the
ridicule to say anything. Now, let's get back to the crash.
One alien survived and was transferred to Los Alamos National Laboratory.
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Los Alamos had been established in nineteen forty three as
Project hy, a top secret site for designing nuclear weapons
under the Manhattan Project during World War II. After the war,
it continued as a secure location. The other three to
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six deceased aliens, once again, depending on which story you
read were placed in a freezer at the same lab.
Others say the bodies as well as the survivor were
taken to write Patterson in Ohio. The survivor was either
a gray or it looked almost human, depending This being
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spoke English and had a translator, or it had a
translator which allowed the military to question it about the sources,
about the saucer and the equipment found scattered about both
the sites. One item of interest was the communication device that,
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when used, allowed the humans to communicate with the alien,
as well as contacting the being's home planet called Sirple.
I have read those annoying articles questioning why any creature
from another distant star system would speak English. UFOs have
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been reported for as far back as recorded time. Anyone
visiting our planet for thousands of years would learn the
language from all over, so they would be able to
watch TV and listen to podcasts, or no, they would
know what the heck is going on down here on
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the planet, not just English, but every language. After establishing
contact with the scientists and the military personnel, the survivor
gave them the location of his home planet, and he
continued to cooperate until its death in nineteen fifty two.
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There's no report on what became of the body that
probably wound up on a dissecting table and got chopped
up into hundreds of little, tiny pieces. The beings on
Cirpo must not have wanted its return, or the IgA
just never came up. Not since Aurora has there been
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a report of an alien funeral. The whole idea on
what to do with dead is very convoluted, depending on
your culture. Bodies can be cremated, buried, preserved, mummified, cut
up and cup down ice, or left out in the
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open for the vultures to come get it, or may
be kept in the back room until the right time.
Our concept of how to deal with the dead might
not be a thing on some other planet. The boys
in the white lab coats continued communicating with the Ebons.
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I'll bet it wasn't all scientific ideas being passed a
back and forth. The mind boggles trying to think about it,
because when dealing with an alien life form, what would
you say, how is the weather on Surpo? Yeah? Knowing
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some scientists, I'll bet there were a few inappropriate discussions.
Some of those folks are a little weird with time
somebody wanted to meet face to face with more of
these ebons, and nothing bad had come from having the
survivor living alongside the folks exposed to it. I'll bet
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one of y'all just said, yeah, but what about the
Extraterrestrial Exposure Law that came out in nineteen sixty nine.
NASA was granted sole responsibility and authority to guard the
Earth against any harmful contamination resulting from personnel, spacecraft, or
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other property returning to the Earth after landing on, or
coming within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body. If
there were already people in close contact with aliens, why bother?
It's the old left hand and not knowing what the
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right is doing. If NASAs said there was no need
to quarantine the astronauts, people would ask, well, how do
you know, which would lead to some other questions. The
folks in charge didn't want to have to avoid it.
Once you start telling a lie, it will grow until
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either it becomes so big it takes over your life
or you're found out. I'm not sure who decided it
was time, but somebody said, let's meet up. Six years
after the survivor was no longer surviving. April nineteen sixty four,
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an alien spacecraft landed near Alamagordo, New Mexico. The beings
stepped out from it were either grays or human looking,
once again, depending on who wrote the article, The report
says the aliens retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades.
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I wonder if this was just added to pretend that
we don't have aliens on ice somewhere. If the government
had bodies, if somebody's gonna say, hey, let's see them,
somebody in power, like those folks in Congress. Oh, come
to think of it, I think they've already asked that,
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And of course they were told to pound sand. In
nineteen seventy four, Richard Nixon was playing golf with his
close friend Jackie Gleeson when he said, you want to
see something really scary? No, that was from the Twilight
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Zone movie nineteen eighty three. Nixon asked if Gleeson wanted to, say,
see some alien bodies. Jackie Gleeson was fascinated by UFOs
and he said yes. Nixon drove him out the Homestead
Air Force Base where there were aliens on ice. This
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must have been bodies from some other race, some of
the crash site or the story of the bodies being
handed back to the Ebans was just that a story.
It makes me wonder how many crash sites there have been,
and how many alien bodies have been recovered and then
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hidden away in a lab somewhere all over the planet.
I did a little search just to see how many
I could find, and I lost crack sometime in the
nineteen eighties. Let's just say those UFOs must have some
really high premiums with Geico. Once more, some people ask,
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how come all those UFOs keep crashing after being able
to travel millions of miles through space? Have you ever
seen an aircraft carrier crash? I've been to a few
plane crashes. Small planes seem to crash all the time.
Big fancy jets with all kinds of high tech make
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dirt landings all the time. Some make huge messes, while
others manage to stay relatively intact. The more flying saucers
we have in the sky, the more likely one or
two are going to get planted. Back at Alamogordo, the
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aliens exchange some technology with us, and we must have
given them something of value. Maybe we gave them a
few recipes on how to prepare mutilated cow meat. The
article about this exchange said the Aliens were using some
form of a translator. It didn't say whether this was
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one of their crew or some kind of a machine
like I said. If they had been coming to the
planet for thousands of years, they should have learned the language.
That is, unless they couldn't speak like humans. There's those
folks that say they communicate telepith telepathically. There I go,
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trying to make up words again. Need more coffee. The
exchange was successful because we didn't all die from any
kind of an alien disease. The aliens must not have
died either. It was decided to exchange some people. In
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nineteen sixty five. A group of volunteers from the US,
probably all military, went back to Sirpo, and a bunch
of aliens stayed here on Earth. Some say there was
only one Ebon that stayed here, and others say there
were several. One account says twelve of people went on
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a ten year mission four years before Neil Armstrong stead
one small step from man. Twelve of people were walking
around on some distant planet, ten men and two women
with all kinds of skills in a variety of subjects
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went to study aliens and see what might benefit all
of us. All of us being the military and the
elites that think they owned the planet, and folks with
lots of money. So far, I don't think anybody else
on the Earth has benefited from any of this information
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they gathered. The journey to Cirpo, which is thirty seven
light years from Earth, took nine months aboard the alien ship.
Sirpo was similar to our planet, but a bit smaller.
It orbited a double star system and had an atmosphere
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similar to that of Earth. According to the report, Cirpo
was very much like Earth. It was inhabited by beings
similar enough to us to be able to walk around
without attracting attention. Having two suns meant that the radiation
levels were higher and the humans had to resort to
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protection of some type SPF five thousand and an umbrella
or two. Two of the men died from complications they
went to a party that said the wrong thing to
the wrong alien, or maybe they decided to sunbathe and
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they were burnt to a crisp. They tried drinking some
local fire water. I couldn't find any details on how
they died. Or what became of their bodies. The heat
was extreme and it took the remaining humans several years
to adopt. I just had this thought pop into my head.
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Maybe the Ebans took those two humans and chopped them
up into little pieces, and now they keep them on ice,
kind of like we do with them. Don't know. It
wasn't in any of the reports I read. The crew
took enough food the last two and a half years,
but in the end they had to resort to Ebans
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local cuisine. Maybe that's what killed those two guys. I've
eaten some exotic things in my time. I managed to
eat army chow without dying. MREs did give me some issues,
but everything came out in the end. I hope those
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guys took enough coffee to last the entire trip, or
maybe the Ebans have their own kind of coffee. At
some point, the humans had to indulge in a gastro
intestinal game of Russian roulette. Will this kill me or
will it make me explode on the commode. Food poisoning
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is no laughing matter unless you're not the one experiencing it.
The humans did manage to eat the local food and
not die. Days on cirple were forty three hours long.
There was no report on how the locals worked this out.
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In the late eighteenth century, companies started to maximize the
output of their factories, running them twenty four to seven.
To make things more efficient, people had to work more hours.
The average work day was ten to sixteen hours long.
That was considered normal. Well, that was considered normal by
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the folks in charge. The workers began to suffer from exhaustion,
and this led to a lot of accidents. Seeing as
the day was twenty four hours long, it was decided
to divide it into three parts, work, relaxation, and sleep.
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A forty three hour day divided three equal parts would
still be way too many hours for a human. There's
no report of whether the evans ran an eight hour
day or whether they worked a third of the day.
It never came up having two suns. It never got
totally dark at night. The smaller sun was still visible
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in the sky, kind of like the northern territories in Canada,
only lacking that really long dark winter. They tell us
the humans were allowed total freedom to explore circle. Whether
they had lots of cameras or how much film they
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took is never mentioned in any of the articles I read.
How many pictures can you take in ten years? Did
they have developing equipment along? Film can last up to
forty years if it's kept cool, which on Sirpo that
might have been a real problem. Edwin Land the inventor
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of the Model ninety five Land camera. This was the
first commercial instant camera, which came out in nineteen forty eight.
The film packs had to be kept cool and dry,
and they would have been a lot more bulky than
rolled film. Let's just say they had cameras and they
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took some photos. The geology of the alien world was
a bit different. There were few mountains and no oceans.
There were a few species of plants, but mostly near
the polar regions where it was a bit cooler. There
were animal species, and some of these were larger than
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you would expect, but the ebans didn't eat them. Instead,
they used them as a transportation and sometimes to help
do work. Think of Fred Flintstone sitting on the back
of that brontosaurus just before he yells yabadabadoo. The way
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the planet sounds to me. Most of the living would
have been done underground, where the radiation would have been
less and the temperature would have been more acceptable. There
have been a lot of alien researchers saying that most
alien civilizations have their buildings underground. Even Valiant Thor said
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the Venetians lived underground. The people of Sirpo lived in
small communities located inside larger cities. They had no central government,
but they seemed to get along just fine without one.
I think we would all get along fine without what
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I see a good idea here, Just think no politicians.
This is probably why the whole project was kept secret.
The people of Sirpo lived in already said that the
Evans had a form of leadership, but they also had
an army, but the Earth team said that they didn't
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have any weapons. Violence was almost unheard of. They had
no concept of money or trade. Each ebon was given
items according to their needs. Reading this, I see a
slant towards socialism, as if the person writing the article
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was trying to push an agenda. I might be wrong
about this, but how many times in the past did
contact these say the Earth needed to stop making nuclear
weapons or the Aliens were going to intercede. We didn't,
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and neither did they. Reading this and thinking about it,
maybe the Aliens knew our nuclear weapons were powerful enough
to stop their plans of world domination, so instead they
just paid off a bunch of politicians and they wound
up taking over anyway. As for the socialism aspect, living
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among the Ebans for thirteen years, maybe the military folks
were brainwashed or enticed into seeing things different from our
way of doing things, or perhaps the person who leaked
the information just made a few strategic changes. The planet
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had a population of about six hundred and fifty thousand.
The human crew noted that the Ebans were disciplined in
all aspects of their lives, working on a schedule based
on the movement of their sons. There were no other
civilizations on Cirpo other than the Ebans. Their method of
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reproduction was similar to ours, but had a much lower
success rate. They don't say how they know. Oh this
I hate to think. No pictures were allowed of children,
although there were lots of kids around. Oh not lots,
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but there were kids around. The Ebons just wouldn't let
the humans take any pictures of them. This makes me
wonder why it might have been found had they taken
any photos, or could this have been some kind of
a cultural thing. Some people consider photography a way to
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steal the souls or their essence. Purity of essence, as
General Jack Ripper used to say from the movie Doctor Strangelove,
Peace on Earth, purity of essence poe. That was the
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secret code word. Upon returning to Earth, the remaining eight
members of the expedition were quarantined for a year. Oh
somehow I forgot to mention that two of the people,
one man and one woman, had decided to stay on Sirple.
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They didn't want to come back to Earth for whatever reason.
Maybe maybe they discovered they really liked the food. Maybe
they liked that heat, that never ending sunlight. That doesn't
say just that. Of the original crew of twelve, only
eight of them returned during this period. After the return
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they were interrogated and the full report amounted to three
thousand pages. Having lived on a smaller planet, their bodies
would have become used to a lower gravity as well.
This would lead to some health problems. And don't forget
about all that alien food. Their digestive tracks had to
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readjust to human food once more. The returning astronauts were
placed in some super secret location, either Area fifty one
or Wright Patterson maybe one of the deep underground military
facilities for quarantine, observation, questioning, and to readjust to Earth.
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They spent about a year under the supervision of doctors
and scientists undergoing the examination in compiling travel reports. You know,
somebody collected all of their number twos so they could
study all alien food work through the human digestion. That's
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a job I'd really not want. A year later, they
received new identities documents, they got paid a pile of money,
and they were given new new lives wherever they wanted
to live. None of them lived very long. By two
thousand and two, all participants in the trip to Serpo
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were dead. The cause of death could have been all
that radiation received during the flight as well as while
living on the planet. It could have been some unknown
microbe that had gotten in them through food, water, or
just being there. It could have been their bodies got
so adjusted to being on a smaller planet with less
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gravity that the return to Earth was just too hard
on them. The descriptions of the aliens said they looked
just like us, and they spoke English. This was also
mentioned by Betty and Barney Hill after their close encounter
of the worst kind back in nineteen sixty one. The
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inhabitants of a Zeta reticulized system are humanoids, if not human.
Betty actually had a conversation with who she thought was
the leader of the aliens. He showed her a map
of their star system that until recently was just a
bunch of dots. Now we know it was actually accurate.
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Barney said, these beings and the spacecraft looked human. The
aliens spoke English to the Hills, but amongst themselves they
had a different language that neither of them could understand.
Bob Lazaar said that during his work in Area fifty one,
he managed to see aliens from the planet Circle and
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their air spacecraft several times. Travis Walton awoke to found
he was surrounded by gray creatures who he decided he
was going to fight. Travis is a big guy. I
met him and he's substantial. He was a I don't
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want to say lumberjack. He cut down trees for living,
so you don't get that in small folks. To calm
him down, a human looking alien came to the rescue.
Travis thought this guy was from Earth there to save him,
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not knowing that he was just one of the Aliens.
Valiant Thor was an extraterrestrial being who resided and provided
council at the Pentagon for a period of three years
back in the fifties. He held meetings with President Eisenhower
and Vice President Richard Nixon, during which he conveyed warning messages.
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Photographs of him show what looks like any human you
might see in or around town that he was from
Venus and not Sirpole. According to one of the anonymous sources,
the official space program of Earthlings two Surpo was just
a cover based on alien technology. A fleet of eight
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motherships and forty three smaller defense ships was being created.
The Colony on Mars was also founded by Americans together
with the Soviet Union in nineteen sixty four. The source
claims that Earthlings have already visited all the planets of
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our solar system, with the exception of Mercury. This would
make the entire Cold War a non happening except for
the billions of dollars and thousands of lives lost. The
elites might have used the Cold War to steal the money.
As for the war, just remember how in nineteen eighty
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four they always had a war going on with somebody
the report say the Ebans haven't contacted US humans since
nineteen eighty four, talk about a coincidence. We have only
the reports said to have been snuck out of top
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secret files. To believe or disbelieve any of this, how
much of it was true, and how much of it
was made up by somebody wanting to sell a book.
Everything involving the project was and still is considered top secret.
Once something is classified, it takes an act of God.
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Since Congress never does anything good to unclassify it. Any
Foyer requests are ignored by saying this never happened and
we were never there. Nineteen eighty three, a man named
Richard Dody, who identified himself as a United States Air
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Force sergeant, claimed that he had been providing records of
this exchange program to journalist Linda Moulten for her HBO
documentary The Et Factor. Richard Dodey is one of the
more controversial figures in the history of UFO studies. Dody
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had a twenty year career with the Air Force, including
years as a special agent for the Air Force Office
of Special Investigations. During that time, he was assigned to
conduct surveillance on a scientist Paul Benowitz, who had inadvertently
acquired information about a classified Air Force program. Dody admitted
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he fed dis information to Benowitz and to other UFO researchers.
He forged documents, and he muddied the waters. Benowitz wound
up killing himself as a result of all of this shenanigans.
Adoti has never said that he felt bad about this,
because he was just doing his job. The Air Force
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Office of Special Investigations spread disinformation amongst UFO cases and
sent operatives to UFO conferences and conventions to gather intel.
In essence, they were spying on US citizens who had
never been accused of any crimes other than thinking that
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UFOs might be real. Doty was involved in a raid
on Bob Lazar's home and office while serving as a
member of the New Mexican State Police. In two thousand
and five, a series of emails were sent to Victor Martinez,
who ran a UFO discussion group. In the emails, it
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said Project Surpo was real. The project is one of
twenty top secret projects that were being supervised by the
Majestic twelve. I have some difficulty, as in a lot,
when believing anything that Dodie says, because he worked for
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the government, telling lies and spreading disinformation, why should we
believe anything he says. Now, maybe I'm wrong, but that
is how I feel about the guy. Plus, if his
information is true, it would still be classified. Those in
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power would take steps to silence him. I'm in a
bit of a muddle. I'm fairly certain that sirple is
a real thing. Yet I doubt one of the main witnesses,
Jerry McKinnon, was accused of the biggest military hack of
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all times by US prosecutors. He was facing sixty years
in an American prison after Home Secretary John Reid agreed
to have McKinnon extradited. I don't see how this could
possibly be legal. McKinnon committed his crimes while in London.
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He never entered the United States, so any crimes committed
here while there are not constitutionally valid. It's like all
those scam calls from India and Nigeria. The FBI doesn't
go after them because the crime is being committed in
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a foreign country. Still, when it comes to keeping a
lid on the whole aliens Ufo story, the government will
go to any lengths. Yes, that is my cat. I
think she's been getting into the cat nip again. McKinnon
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was accused of repeatedly hacking into dozens of computers used
by the Pentagon, NASA, the US Army, the Navy, the
Air Force between February two thousand and one and March
of two thousand and two. The funny thing is he
was using a cheap computer with a dial up modem,
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with which he allegedly caused five hundred thousand dollars worth
of damage. They say he took down an entire military
facility in Washington, which I certainly hope isn't possible. Was
our military and NASA that cheaply put together. Come to
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think of it, the lowest bidder got every contract. All
that extra government waste was of money handed out as
gifts to grease the wheels and to make politicians wealthy.
McKinnon admitted to breaking into the American computer system, but
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denies doing any damage. His actions were motivated simply out
of curiosity, he says, and none of the computers he
hacked into or password protected or encrypted. The security was
so low he said that he could give you a
a four sheet to tell you exactly how to do it.
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An A four sheet is simply a standard eight by
eleven piece of paper. Yikes, Yes, she's definitely beginning into
the catnip. McKinnon said that as he was perusing the
computers at NASA and the Pentagon, he noticed that other
people were also in the system. Looking around, he thought
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that maybe they were from China or Turkey, Holland, maybe
even Germany. Apparently our computers were all put together by
the lowest of the lowest bidders. In two thousand, he
started hacking the US government and military because he believed
they had evidence of the existence of UFOs. He's accused
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he accessed computers by running what's called a port scanner.
A television has channels, a computer has ports. The web
is Port eighty, your email is Port one hundred and
ten for collecting, and Port twenty five for sending, the
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port for logging onto windows. Mischie machines as one thirty nine.
Doing a scan where you're looking for one port is
really fast. He said he could scan sixty five thousand
machines in under nine minutes. This is all what McKinnon said.
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Once he was accessing a computer, it became harder as
he wormed his way from one port of the network
to another, eventually gaining control of the whole network and
then being able to search for files. He kept track
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of his findings, the sort of things that would be
considered proof for those of us that believe in UFOs,
but would fail to persuade any skeptics. Everything fails to
persuade skeptics, they worship at the altar of science, and
woe to anyone one who displeases their God. They'll send
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in the fact checkers. McKinnon found a spreadsheet headed non
terrestrial officers with lists of transfers of vehicles not registered
to the US military. Also something he says was called
the Disclosure Project, which included four hundred testimonials of UFO
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sightings and photos which he speculated had been airbrushed to
remove evidence of alien spacecraft. During one of his visits,
he got the time zone wrong and he hacked onto
a computer while somebody was still in the office. McKennon
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was manipulating the cursor on somebody's desktop when he was discovered.
Security specialists were called in and the trail led back
to England. McKinnon was taken to Holloway Police station, where
he was interviewed, and he admitted having accessed U S
military computers. He was not charged, but in November two
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thousand and two, he was indicted by the U. S. Government.
Since then, all charges have been dropped. In twenty twenty,
the Pentagon released three videos of high speed, incredibly maneuverable
UFOs recorded by U. S Navy pilots from twenty fifteen
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to twenty sixteen. Former Pentagon employee David Grush testified before
Congress that the US government possessed unidentified, crashed extraterrestrial craft
and non human bodies that had been retrieved at UFO's
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sites for decades. After Garash, Grushed and two others testified
under oath before Congress there were UFOs and alien bodies
at US facilities. The Air Force came out and said, Nah,
we don't have anything like that. What I'm wondering is
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what have they taken videos of since two thoy and sixteen.
I'm sure there's got to be at least one or
two more UFO videos out there. But like I said,
once the government classifies something, it's impossible to get it unclassified.
It was only through actually kind of a mistake on
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somebody's part. That those videos were released from twenty fifteen
and sixteen. Back when all of this was getting started,
a lot of folks said there were no alien life forms,
and they sure the heck weren't here. They all back
on the old it's too far to get here from there,
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the closest inhabitable star system, and so therefore there are
no aliens on Earth. They would show cartoons of UFOs
zipping back and forth like commuters going to work. The
boys in the white lab coats all swore that aliens
didn't exist because they had never met one. A couple
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of Harvard scientists have come out with a paper in
which they say aliens just might already be here living
amongst us. The research was authored by two academicans. Is
that even a word? Academicans? Academ Yeah, those guys boys
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in white lab coats at the Harvard University's Human Flourishing Project,
a guy named Tkim Lomus and Brendan Case. The paper
focused on four main theories about aliens living amongst humans
and now for the really really hard to pronounce scientific names.
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These include human crypto terrestrials, a theropod or HumanID, hominid
hominid crypto terrestrials, extra tem pestrials, former extraterrestrial crypto terrestrials,
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and magical crypto terrestrials. Did they have to come up
with such unpronounceable names. The human crypto terrestrial theory suggests
that highly advanced ancient human civilization may have continued to
exist even after some catastrophic events like floods. The theropod
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theory proposes that there is a possibility of non human
society evolving from terrestrial creatures like intelligent dinosaurs or ape
like humanoids, no hominids, and now living beneath the surface
of the Earth. The extra tempastoral theory is based on
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the belief that aliens might have traveled from the Moon
or other places to visit the Earth and then hidden
themselves away and are still here today. The fourth theory
deals with folklore creatures like fairies and elves, suggesting a
magical connection to humans. However, this is the oddest theory
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of the four and is often opposed by those who
don't believe in UFOs, and they think that these explanations
are hokey. Boys in the white lab coats are now
divided between accepting their brethren's theories, or standing fast alongside
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the old fogies who still hold some control over the
truth and how far it will go. When I was
a young there was no greater authority on space other
than Captain James T. Kirk. Captain Kirk himself is setting
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out to find the answers to the burning question of
whether there are aliens here among us in his new
TV show called Aliens among Us. Of course, this is
a streaming network which I'll probably never subscribe to. I'll
wait for it to be released on YouTube for free.
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I'm not cheap. I'm from William Shatner says, I'm not
going to try to impersonate the Captain. Yes I am,
he said. I spent decades pretending to explore space, and
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then I got a chance to go there. William Shatner
said as he was previewing his new show, I want
to know is anybody out there? We asked pilots, space psychologists,
and government officials the big question, are there aliens among us?
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Shatner's new show challenges skepticism about UFOs, incorporates bombshell testimony,
and looks at interesting studies that all make the case
for the existence of something set beyond the world that
we know. We don't say, Look here a piece of
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a spaceship, he said during a special appearance on Fox
and Friends. Okay, enough of me not impersonating Shatner. It
might not be how he speaks, but it's how I
hear him speak. There are rumors that the American government
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has reverse engineered crashed saucers they've found to breathe that
they believe know that they know came from distant planets.
For the folks asking why a UFO never lands on
the White House lawn, what would that accomplish? Mess up
the grass and give the Secret Service a heart attack?
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You know they've all seen Independence Day. I believe the
aliens have already made contact with the in power, and
the White House isn't where it's at. Recently, airline pilots
reported UFOs dancing in the sky during a flight from Jetta,
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Saudi Arabia to Abuja, Nigeria, and they captured footage of
three shining dots in the sky. Van Pengmanon, who was
responsible for capturing the footage, said that he saw as
many as four dots, each aligned in a way reminiscent
of the Phoenix Lights of phenomenon that happened back in
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Arizona twenty seven years ago. UFO mysteries have even captured
Americans at the federal level, prompting lawmakers to launch historic
congressional hearings on sightings, which there haven't been any in
a while. I wonder why it seems no matter what
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the folks Washington asked, the military just says they have
no UFOs, aliens, alien technology, or bodies. The deep state military,
the ones who believe they are allowed to control all
the information about anything they want, will never admit they've
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been lying, because the ramifications will be biblical. As soon
as one of these longtime military officers says, oh yeah, Roswell,
Cape Girardo, that UFO that crashed south of Laredo, Yeah,
that's all true. Well, people are going to start suing
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for the technology, seeing as we the people supposedly own it,
you know, us taxpayers. All that alien tech being secreted
away in underground bases and used for their personal advancement
would have to be available to us. Flying cars here
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we come. Area fifty one would become a theme park.
Plus the oil and gas industry would be Kaputski in
a matter of weeks. No need for an internal combustion car.
If all you need is some unobtainium and a tinfoil ship.
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The peoples whose empires are built on oil would have
to find work, maybe in the food industry. Some people
picture aliens coming to Earth so that everybody can gather
around and sing Kumbayah and live happily ever after. I
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don't think so. Why do aliens choose to kidnap people
in the middle of the night and do weird things
that make parts of their bodies hurt? Why do they
scare the heck out of folks doing bizarre things that
they shouldn't be allowed to do. Here in the United States,
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we have laws against doing the things these aliens are doing,
but they just keep doing them anyway. If the aliens
are our space brothers, they sure have a weird way
of showing it. I get the impression that aliens are
more in league with the elites who want to rule
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our world and are willing to sign on with any
invaders as long as they are higher on the food
chain than the rest of us. The ones with the
knowledge are the ones with the power, whether we elected
them or not. Mark Twain once said if voting made
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a difference, they would never let us do it. Really,
it's for our own good. We can't handle the truth.
Were just too fragile to be shown alien technology without
becoming hysterical. The folks in charge like to roll out
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the old War of the World's radio broadcast and say, see,
people will go nuts. We must protect them from their
own nightmares. October thirtieth, nineteen thirty eight, Orson Wells and
the Columbia Broadcast Theater performed an adoption of the book.
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Before the show, it was announced it was just theater.
It sounded like a real newscast. Only the people who
missed the first part thought it was real. Of those,
only a few actually went nuts. No rioting in the streets,
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no people shooting each other. That was all Hollywood, probably
with the blessings of the government, to make us citizens
look like a bunch of simpletons. The people who will
freak out are the ones eating tide pods and living
in their parents' basements. Maybe a few religious fanatics might
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take a step out of their own minds. That won't
be much of a change, so we might not even notice.
Most people are a lot tougher than the elites are
willing to admit. Now, how long would an alien being
have to live here on Earth before no longer being
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an alien? If a spaceship landed on the floor of
the ocean thousands of years ago, and the inhabitants they
made little aliens, how many years would need to pass
before the beings are considered to be earthlings? I'm asking
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for a friend. Oh, and will Ice have to go
around and arrest space aliens if they run into any
of them? That would be cool to watch. Hope you
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aliens drink coffee? They must? If Organic Man Coffee trink
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drink coffee, it would only be the best on the
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the best coffee, swing by Organic Man Coffee Trike four
or five is zero one McPherson. The coffee beans, which
are actually cherries, are roasted right there in the back
room that is actually to the left of the counter.
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That's life. Things are called by the wrong name all
the time, for example public servant, which amounts to treat
somebody like royalty and make them rich. There are only
so many days in our lives, and drinking bad coffee
makes them badd If you're not in Laredo and still
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want the best coffee, go to Organicman Coffee Trike Dot shop.
One of my listeners asked if I had ever done
a show about Project Sirple. I said, no, but I
was going to I can't remember who asked, so if
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it was, you, let me know. I should have written
it down, But I forgot to write it down, and
so therefore I forgot who asked. A lot of my
research for shows involves way too many websites that mostly
say the exact same thing, the old cut and paste.
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You would think the folks putting out websites on any
subject would do a little work to make the information
of their own. I've seen the same mistakes and spelling
and grammar reprinted over and over as the creators of
these pages act as if they have discovered something new,
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when all they're actually doing is taking information from somebody else.
I'm a little paranoid about using my art bell coffee cup.
I'm afraid either me or one of the cats is
gonna break it. I might have to go back to
using my steel cup. If I drop it, nothing happens,
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It just makes a weird noise. While looking into Circle,
I found a whole new problem websites with completely different
information that you would think involved different subjects. The number
of bodies, the way the beings looked, by the way
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they interacted with humans, on and on it was almost
as if there were several different stories, all going by
the same name. I've said this before, and I will
say it again. I have no contacts feeding me secret
information or documents. I am not any good at hacking.
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I know how to turn my computer on and who
to run to when things go south. There's no reason
for the FBI, NSACIA, or any other alphabet agency to
pay me a visit. Everything I'm telling you is found
on the websites or in my massive book collection. I
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do theorize from time to time based on how some
information sounds or who's putting it out. I usually say
it's just my ideas, but sometimes I forget that too.
Back in two thousand and five, an anonymous source sent
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a bunch of emails to a UFO discussion group headed
by a former US government official, Victor Martinez. The messages
involved a top secret sp base program where United States
astronauts were taken to a planet called Sirpole in the
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Zeta Reticuli star system. A Zeta Reticuli are two stars
located in the southern constellation of the Reticulum A. Try
not to think about a particular part of your anatomy.
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It refers to a network or any reticulated system or structure.
The star system is composed of two sun like stars,
Zeta one and Zeta two, reticuli, located at a distance
of about thirty nine light years from Earth. Aliens called
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ebons from this planet lived here on Earth. The project
was named for the planet in orbit around both of
these stars. The person sending out these emails called themselves anonymous.
He or she said they were a retired government worker
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who had direct involvement with this project. When the crash
at Roswell took place, it involved two and sometimes three spacecraft,
depending on who you're reading. In the years after the
UFO crash, just outside of Cape Girardo, Missouri, in the
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spring of nineteen forty one, the government was ready in
waiting for the next one. A military unit had been
established and plans made in case there was a second crash.
In nineteen forty seven, the unit had its chance to
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spring into action and see to it no outside civilian
involvement occurred at Cape Girardo. Too many civilians were on hand,
and this would not do at all. That all that
alien technology was to be secreted away at Roswell, orders
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were sent to establish a perimeter, keep the area secure,
collecting and all debris, and convince any witnesses to keep
their mouths shut or else. At the crash site, a
bunch of alien bodies were found. There was also one
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living being found and it was taken into custody. I've
seen that joke video showing a gray being questioned by
unseen military officials and suddenly the being begins to choke
or something. The medic rush in and begin working on it,
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always being sure to keep the creature in the middle
of the screen and in focus. The medics are working
over this creature's shoulders as if that's how you do things. Yeah,
that's not how it's done. Shame on the mess. Yes,
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I watch bonehead truckers. Real truck drivers don't wear flip flops.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's another
channel that shows all the bad things that some truck
drivers have been doing, like wearing flip flops. Stories are
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out there on what exactly took place in nineteen forty seven.
Way too many folks trying to sell their books while
coming up with bizarre stories of Jap companies, prisoners of war,
or maybe they were parachute dummies anything to try to
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explain away the crash and at the same time sell
their books. I said, I had theories about things like this.
How do you make a story disappear? Once it's out there,
it's nearly impossible to erase. To make it go away,
you flood the place with stories that muddy the water
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until the real story becomes lost in a tremendous pile
of lies. The problem with the murder of JFK isn't
the lack of evidence. There is way too much pointing
in every direction except towards the truth. To make Roswell
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go away, the government created hundreds of alternative stories. Plus
they made fun of anybody trying to tell the truth
until anybody with a real account was afraid of the
ridicule to say anything. Now, let's get back to the crash.
One alien survived and was transferred to Los Alamos National Laboratory.
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Los Alamos had been established in nineteen forty three as
Project hy, a top secret site for designing nuclear weapons
under the Manhattan Project during World War II. After the war,
it continued as a secure location. The other three to
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six deceased aliens, once again, depending on which story you
read were placed in a freezer at the same lab.
Others say the bodies as well as the survivor were
taken to write Patterson in Ohio. The survivor was either
a gray or it looked almost human, depending This being
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spoke English and had a translator, or it had a
translator which allowed the military to question it about the sources,
about the saucer and the equipment found scattered about both
the sites. One item of interest was the communication device that,
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when used, allowed the humans to communicate with the alien,
as well as contacting the being's home planet called Sirple.
I have read those annoying articles questioning why any creature
from another distant star system would speak English. UFOs have
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been reported for as far back as recorded time. Anyone
visiting our planet for thousands of years would learn the
language from all over, so they would be able to
watch TV and listen to podcasts, or no, they would
know what the heck is going on down here on
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the planet, not just English, but every language. After establishing
contact with the scientists and the military personnel, the survivor
gave them the location of his home planet, and he
continued to cooperate until its death in nineteen fifty two.
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There's no report on what became of the body that
probably wound up on a dissecting table and got chopped
up into hundreds of little, tiny pieces. The beings on
Cirpo must not have wanted its return, or the IgA
just never came up. Not since Aurora has there been
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a report of an alien funeral. The whole idea on
what to do with dead is very convoluted, depending on
your culture. Bodies can be cremated, buried, preserved, mummified, cut
up and cup down ice, or left out in the
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open for the vultures to come get it, or may
be kept in the back room until the right time.
Our concept of how to deal with the dead might
not be a thing on some other planet. The boys
in the white lab coats continued communicating with the Ebons.
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I'll bet it wasn't all scientific ideas being passed a
back and forth. The mind boggles trying to think about it,
because when dealing with an alien life form, what would
you say, how is the weather on Surpo? Yeah? Knowing
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some scientists, I'll bet there were a few inappropriate discussions.
Some of those folks are a little weird with time
somebody wanted to meet face to face with more of
these ebons, and nothing bad had come from having the
survivor living alongside the folks exposed to it. I'll bet
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one of y'all just said, yeah, but what about the
Extraterrestrial Exposure Law that came out in nineteen sixty nine.
NASA was granted sole responsibility and authority to guard the
Earth against any harmful contamination resulting from personnel, spacecraft, or
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other property returning to the Earth after landing on, or
coming within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body. If
there were already people in close contact with aliens, why bother?
It's the old left hand and not knowing what the
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right is doing. If NASAs said there was no need
to quarantine the astronauts, people would ask, well, how do
you know, which would lead to some other questions. The
folks in charge didn't want to have to avoid it.
Once you start telling a lie, it will grow until
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either it becomes so big it takes over your life
or you're found out. I'm not sure who decided it
was time, but somebody said, let's meet up. Six years
after the survivor was no longer surviving. April nineteen sixty four,
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an alien spacecraft landed near Alamagordo, New Mexico. The beings
stepped out from it were either grays or human looking,
once again, depending on who wrote the article, The report
says the aliens retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades.
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I wonder if this was just added to pretend that
we don't have aliens on ice somewhere. If the government
had bodies, if somebody's gonna say, hey, let's see them,
somebody in power, like those folks in Congress. Oh, come
to think of it, I think they've already asked that,
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And of course they were told to pound sand. In
nineteen seventy four, Richard Nixon was playing golf with his
close friend Jackie Gleeson when he said, you want to
see something really scary? No, that was from the Twilight
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Zone movie nineteen eighty three. Nixon asked if Gleeson wanted to, say,
see some alien bodies. Jackie Gleeson was fascinated by UFOs
and he said yes. Nixon drove him out the Homestead
Air Force Base where there were aliens on ice. This
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must have been bodies from some other race, some of
the crash site or the story of the bodies being
handed back to the Ebans was just that a story.
It makes me wonder how many crash sites there have been,
and how many alien bodies have been recovered and then
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hidden away in a lab somewhere all over the planet.
I did a little search just to see how many
I could find, and I lost crack sometime in the
nineteen eighties. Let's just say those UFOs must have some
really high premiums with Geico. Once more, some people ask,
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how come all those UFOs keep crashing after being able
to travel millions of miles through space? Have you ever
seen an aircraft carrier crash? I've been to a few
plane crashes. Small planes seem to crash all the time.
Big fancy jets with all kinds of high tech make
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dirt landings all the time. Some make huge messes, while
others manage to stay relatively intact. The more flying saucers
we have in the sky, the more likely one or
two are going to get planted. Back at Alamogordo, the
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aliens exchange some technology with us, and we must have
given them something of value. Maybe we gave them a
few recipes on how to prepare mutilated cow meat. The
article about this exchange said the Aliens were using some
form of a translator. It didn't say whether this was
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one of their crew or some kind of a machine
like I said. If they had been coming to the
planet for thousands of years, they should have learned the language.
That is, unless they couldn't speak like humans. There's those
folks that say they communicate telepith telepathically. There I go,
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trying to make up words again. Need more coffee. The
exchange was successful because we didn't all die from any
kind of an alien disease. The aliens must not have
died either. It was decided to exchange some people. In
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nineteen sixty five. A group of volunteers from the US,
probably all military, went back to Sirpo, and a bunch
of aliens stayed here on Earth. Some say there was
only one Ebon that stayed here, and others say there
were several. One account says twelve of people went on
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a ten year mission four years before Neil Armstrong stead
one small step from man. Twelve of people were walking
around on some distant planet, ten men and two women
with all kinds of skills in a variety of subjects
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went to study aliens and see what might benefit all
of us. All of us being the military and the
elites that think they owned the planet, and folks with
lots of money. So far, I don't think anybody else
on the Earth has benefited from any of this information
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they gathered. The journey to Cirpo, which is thirty seven
light years from Earth, took nine months aboard the alien ship.
Sirpo was similar to our planet, but a bit smaller.
It orbited a double star system and had an atmosphere
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similar to that of Earth. According to the report, Cirpo
was very much like Earth. It was inhabited by beings
similar enough to us to be able to walk around
without attracting attention. Having two suns meant that the radiation
levels were higher and the humans had to resort to
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protection of some type SPF five thousand and an umbrella
or two. Two of the men died from complications they
went to a party that said the wrong thing to
the wrong alien, or maybe they decided to sunbathe and
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they were burnt to a crisp. They tried drinking some
local fire water. I couldn't find any details on how
they died. Or what became of their bodies. The heat
was extreme and it took the remaining humans several years
to adopt. I just had this thought pop into my head.
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Maybe the Ebans took those two humans and chopped them
up into little pieces, and now they keep them on ice,
kind of like we do with them. Don't know. It
wasn't in any of the reports I read. The crew
took enough food the last two and a half years,
but in the end they had to resort to Ebans
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local cuisine. Maybe that's what killed those two guys. I've
eaten some exotic things in my time. I managed to
eat army chow without dying. MREs did give me some issues,
but everything came out in the end. I hope those
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guys took enough coffee to last the entire trip, or
maybe the Ebans have their own kind of coffee. At
some point, the humans had to indulge in a gastro
intestinal game of Russian roulette. Will this kill me or
will it make me explode on the commode. Food poisoning
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is no laughing matter unless you're not the one experiencing it.
The humans did manage to eat the local food and
not die. Days on cirple were forty three hours long.
There was no report on how the locals worked this out.
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In the late eighteenth century, companies started to maximize the
output of their factories, running them twenty four to seven.
To make things more efficient, people had to work more hours.
The average work day was ten to sixteen hours long.
That was considered normal. Well, that was considered normal by
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the folks in charge. The workers began to suffer from exhaustion,
and this led to a lot of accidents. Seeing as
the day was twenty four hours long, it was decided
to divide it into three parts, work, relaxation, and sleep.
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A forty three hour day divided three equal parts would
still be way too many hours for a human. There's
no report of whether the evans ran an eight hour
day or whether they worked a third of the day.
It never came up having two suns. It never got
totally dark at night. The smaller sun was still visible
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in the sky, kind of like the northern territories in Canada,
only lacking that really long dark winter. They tell us
the humans were allowed total freedom to explore circle. Whether
they had lots of cameras or how much film they
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took is never mentioned in any of the articles I read.
How many pictures can you take in ten years? Did
they have developing equipment along? Film can last up to
forty years if it's kept cool, which on Sirpo that
might have been a real problem. Edwin Land the inventor
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of the Model ninety five Land camera. This was the
first commercial instant camera, which came out in nineteen forty eight.
The film packs had to be kept cool and dry,
and they would have been a lot more bulky than
rolled film. Let's just say they had cameras and they
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took some photos. The geology of the alien world was
a bit different. There were few mountains and no oceans.
There were a few species of plants, but mostly near
the polar regions where it was a bit cooler. There
were animal species, and some of these were larger than
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you would expect, but the ebans didn't eat them. Instead,
they used them as a transportation and sometimes to help
do work. Think of Fred Flintstone sitting on the back
of that brontosaurus just before he yells yabadabadoo. The way
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the planet sounds to me. Most of the living would
have been done underground, where the radiation would have been
less and the temperature would have been more acceptable. There
have been a lot of alien researchers saying that most
alien civilizations have their buildings underground. Even Valiant Thor said
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the Venetians lived underground. The people of Sirpo lived in
small communities located inside larger cities. They had no central government,
but they seemed to get along just fine without one.
I think we would all get along fine without what
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I see a good idea here, Just think no politicians.
This is probably why the whole project was kept secret.
The people of Sirpo lived in already said that the
Evans had a form of leadership, but they also had
an army, but the Earth team said that they didn't
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have any weapons. Violence was almost unheard of. They had
no concept of money or trade. Each ebon was given
items according to their needs. Reading this, I see a
slant towards socialism, as if the person writing the article
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was trying to push an agenda. I might be wrong
about this, but how many times in the past did
contact these say the Earth needed to stop making nuclear
weapons or the Aliens were going to intercede. We didn't,
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and neither did they. Reading this and thinking about it,
maybe the Aliens knew our nuclear weapons were powerful enough
to stop their plans of world domination, so instead they
just paid off a bunch of politicians and they wound
up taking over anyway. As for the socialism aspect, living
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among the Ebans for thirteen years, maybe the military folks
were brainwashed or enticed into seeing things different from our
way of doing things, or perhaps the person who leaked
the information just made a few strategic changes. The planet
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had a population of about six hundred and fifty thousand.
The human crew noted that the Ebans were disciplined in
all aspects of their lives, working on a schedule based
on the movement of their sons. There were no other
civilizations on Cirpo other than the Ebans. Their method of
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reproduction was similar to ours, but had a much lower
success rate. They don't say how they know. Oh this
I hate to think. No pictures were allowed of children,
although there were lots of kids around. Oh not lots,
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but there were kids around. The Ebons just wouldn't let
the humans take any pictures of them. This makes me
wonder why it might have been found had they taken
any photos, or could this have been some kind of
a cultural thing. Some people consider photography a way to
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steal the souls or their essence. Purity of essence, as
General Jack Ripper used to say from the movie Doctor Strangelove,
Peace on Earth, purity of essence poe. That was the
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secret code word. Upon returning to Earth, the remaining eight
members of the expedition were quarantined for a year. Oh
somehow I forgot to mention that two of the people,
one man and one woman, had decided to stay on Sirple.
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They didn't want to come back to Earth for whatever reason.
Maybe maybe they discovered they really liked the food. Maybe
they liked that heat, that never ending sunlight. That doesn't
say just that. Of the original crew of twelve, only
eight of them returned during this period. After the return
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they were interrogated and the full report amounted to three
thousand pages. Having lived on a smaller planet, their bodies
would have become used to a lower gravity as well.
This would lead to some health problems. And don't forget
about all that alien food. Their digestive tracks had to
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readjust to human food once more. The returning astronauts were
placed in some super secret location, either Area fifty one
or Wright Patterson maybe one of the deep underground military
facilities for quarantine, observation, questioning, and to readjust to Earth.
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They spent about a year under the supervision of doctors
and scientists undergoing the examination in compiling travel reports. You know,
somebody collected all of their number twos so they could
study all alien food work through the human digestion. That's
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a job I'd really not want. A year later, they
received new identities documents, they got paid a pile of money,
and they were given new new lives wherever they wanted
to live. None of them lived very long. By two
thousand and two, all participants in the trip to Serpo
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were dead. The cause of death could have been all
that radiation received during the flight as well as while
living on the planet. It could have been some unknown
microbe that had gotten in them through food, water, or
just being there. It could have been their bodies got
so adjusted to being on a smaller planet with less
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gravity that the return to Earth was just too hard
on them. The descriptions of the aliens said they looked
just like us, and they spoke English. This was also
mentioned by Betty and Barney Hill after their close encounter
of the worst kind back in nineteen sixty one. The
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inhabitants of a Zeta reticulized system are humanoids, if not human.
Betty actually had a conversation with who she thought was
the leader of the aliens. He showed her a map
of their star system that until recently was just a
bunch of dots. Now we know it was actually accurate.
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Barney said, these beings and the spacecraft looked human. The
aliens spoke English to the Hills, but amongst themselves they
had a different language that neither of them could understand.
Bob Lazaar said that during his work in Area fifty one,
he managed to see aliens from the planet Circle and
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their air spacecraft several times. Travis Walton awoke to found
he was surrounded by gray creatures who he decided he
was going to fight. Travis is a big guy. I
met him and he's substantial. He was a I don't
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want to say lumberjack. He cut down trees for living,
so you don't get that in small folks. To calm
him down, a human looking alien came to the rescue.
Travis thought this guy was from Earth there to save him,
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not knowing that he was just one of the Aliens.
Valiant Thor was an extraterrestrial being who resided and provided
council at the Pentagon for a period of three years
back in the fifties. He held meetings with President Eisenhower
and Vice President Richard Nixon, during which he conveyed warning messages.
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Photographs of him show what looks like any human you
might see in or around town that he was from
Venus and not Sirpole. According to one of the anonymous sources,
the official space program of Earthlings two Surpo was just
a cover based on alien technology. A fleet of eight
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motherships and forty three smaller defense ships was being created.
The Colony on Mars was also founded by Americans together
with the Soviet Union in nineteen sixty four. The source
claims that Earthlings have already visited all the planets of
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our solar system, with the exception of Mercury. This would
make the entire Cold War a non happening except for
the billions of dollars and thousands of lives lost. The
elites might have used the Cold War to steal the money.
As for the war, just remember how in nineteen eighty
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four they always had a war going on with somebody
the report say the Ebans haven't contacted US humans since
nineteen eighty four, talk about a coincidence. We have only
the reports said to have been snuck out of top
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secret files. To believe or disbelieve any of this, how
much of it was true, and how much of it
was made up by somebody wanting to sell a book.
Everything involving the project was and still is considered top secret.
Once something is classified, it takes an act of God.
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Since Congress never does anything good to unclassify it. Any
Foyer requests are ignored by saying this never happened and
we were never there. Nineteen eighty three, a man named
Richard Dody, who identified himself as a United States Air
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Force sergeant, claimed that he had been providing records of
this exchange program to journalist Linda Moulten for her HBO
documentary The Et Factor. Richard Dodey is one of the
more controversial figures in the history of UFO studies. Dody
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had a twenty year career with the Air Force, including
years as a special agent for the Air Force Office
of Special Investigations. During that time, he was assigned to
conduct surveillance on a scientist Paul Benowitz, who had inadvertently
acquired information about a classified Air Force program. Dody admitted
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he fed dis information to Benowitz and to other UFO researchers.
He forged documents, and he muddied the waters. Benowitz wound
up killing himself as a result of all of this shenanigans.
Adoti has never said that he felt bad about this,
because he was just doing his job. The Air Force
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Office of Special Investigations spread disinformation amongst UFO cases and
sent operatives to UFO conferences and conventions to gather intel.
In essence, they were spying on US citizens who had
never been accused of any crimes other than thinking that
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UFOs might be real. Doty was involved in a raid
on Bob Lazar's home and office while serving as a
member of the New Mexican State Police. In two thousand
and five, a series of emails were sent to Victor Martinez,
who ran a UFO discussion group. In the emails, it
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said Project Surpo was real. The project is one of
twenty top secret projects that were being supervised by the
Majestic twelve. I have some difficulty, as in a lot,
when believing anything that Dodie says, because he worked for
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the government, telling lies and spreading disinformation, why should we
believe anything he says. Now, maybe I'm wrong, but that
is how I feel about the guy. Plus, if his
information is true, it would still be classified. Those in
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power would take steps to silence him. I'm in a
bit of a muddle. I'm fairly certain that sirple is
a real thing. Yet I doubt one of the main witnesses,
Jerry McKinnon, was accused of the biggest military hack of
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all times by US prosecutors. He was facing sixty years
in an American prison after Home Secretary John Reid agreed
to have McKinnon extradited. I don't see how this could
possibly be legal. McKinnon committed his crimes while in London.
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He never entered the United States, so any crimes committed
here while there are not constitutionally valid. It's like all
those scam calls from India and Nigeria. The FBI doesn't
go after them because the crime is being committed in
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a foreign country. Still, when it comes to keeping a
lid on the whole aliens Ufo story, the government will
go to any lengths. Yes, that is my cat. I
think she's been getting into the cat nip again. McKinnon
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was accused of repeatedly hacking into dozens of computers used
by the Pentagon, NASA, the US Army, the Navy, the
Air Force between February two thousand and one and March
of two thousand and two. The funny thing is he
was using a cheap computer with a dial up modem,
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with which he allegedly caused five hundred thousand dollars worth
of damage. They say he took down an entire military
facility in Washington, which I certainly hope isn't possible. Was
our military and NASA that cheaply put together. Come to
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think of it, the lowest bidder got every contract. All
that extra government waste was of money handed out as
gifts to grease the wheels and to make politicians wealthy.
McKinnon admitted to breaking into the American computer system, but
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denies doing any damage. His actions were motivated simply out
of curiosity, he says, and none of the computers he
hacked into or password protected or encrypted. The security was
so low he said that he could give you a
a four sheet to tell you exactly how to do it.
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An A four sheet is simply a standard eight by
eleven piece of paper. Yikes, Yes, she's definitely beginning into
the catnip. McKinnon said that as he was perusing the
computers at NASA and the Pentagon, he noticed that other
people were also in the system. Looking around, he thought
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that maybe they were from China or Turkey, Holland, maybe
even Germany. Apparently our computers were all put together by
the lowest of the lowest bidders. In two thousand, he
started hacking the US government and military because he believed
they had evidence of the existence of UFOs. He's accused
(44:35):
he accessed computers by running what's called a port scanner.
A television has channels, a computer has ports. The web
is Port eighty, your email is Port one hundred and
ten for collecting, and Port twenty five for sending, the
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port for logging onto windows. Mischie machines as one thirty nine.
Doing a scan where you're looking for one port is
really fast. He said he could scan sixty five thousand
machines in under nine minutes. This is all what McKinnon said.
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Once he was accessing a computer, it became harder as
he wormed his way from one port of the network
to another, eventually gaining control of the whole network and
then being able to search for files. He kept track
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of his findings, the sort of things that would be
considered proof for those of us that believe in UFOs,
but would fail to persuade any skeptics. Everything fails to
persuade skeptics, they worship at the altar of science, and
woe to anyone one who displeases their God. They'll send
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in the fact checkers. McKinnon found a spreadsheet headed non
terrestrial officers with lists of transfers of vehicles not registered
to the US military. Also something he says was called
the Disclosure Project, which included four hundred testimonials of UFO
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sightings and photos which he speculated had been airbrushed to
remove evidence of alien spacecraft. During one of his visits,
he got the time zone wrong and he hacked onto
a computer while somebody was still in the office. McKennon
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was manipulating the cursor on somebody's desktop when he was discovered.
Security specialists were called in and the trail led back
to England. McKinnon was taken to Holloway Police station, where
he was interviewed, and he admitted having accessed U S
military computers. He was not charged, but in November two
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thousand and two, he was indicted by the U. S. Government.
Since then, all charges have been dropped. In twenty twenty,
the Pentagon released three videos of high speed, incredibly maneuverable
UFOs recorded by U. S Navy pilots from twenty fifteen
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to twenty sixteen. Former Pentagon employee David Grush testified before
Congress that the US government possessed unidentified, crashed extraterrestrial craft
and non human bodies that had been retrieved at UFO's
(47:56):
sites for decades. After Garash, Grushed and two others testified
under oath before Congress there were UFOs and alien bodies
at US facilities. The Air Force came out and said, Nah,
we don't have anything like that. What I'm wondering is
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what have they taken videos of since two thoy and sixteen.
I'm sure there's got to be at least one or
two more UFO videos out there. But like I said,
once the government classifies something, it's impossible to get it unclassified.
It was only through actually kind of a mistake on
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somebody's part. That those videos were released from twenty fifteen
and sixteen. Back when all of this was getting started,
a lot of folks said there were no alien life forms,
and they sure the heck weren't here. They all back
on the old it's too far to get here from there,
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the closest inhabitable star system, and so therefore there are
no aliens on Earth. They would show cartoons of UFOs
zipping back and forth like commuters going to work. The
boys in the white lab coats all swore that aliens
didn't exist because they had never met one. A couple
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of Harvard scientists have come out with a paper in
which they say aliens just might already be here living
amongst us. The research was authored by two academicans. Is
that even a word? Academicans? Academ Yeah, those guys boys
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in white lab coats at the Harvard University's Human Flourishing Project,
a guy named Tkim Lomus and Brendan Case. The paper
focused on four main theories about aliens living amongst humans
and now for the really really hard to pronounce scientific names.
(50:17):
These include human crypto terrestrials, a theropod or HumanID, hominid
hominid crypto terrestrials, extra tem pestrials, former extraterrestrial crypto terrestrials,
(50:37):
and magical crypto terrestrials. Did they have to come up
with such unpronounceable names. The human crypto terrestrial theory suggests
that highly advanced ancient human civilization may have continued to
exist even after some catastrophic events like floods. The theropod
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theory proposes that there is a possibility of non human
society evolving from terrestrial creatures like intelligent dinosaurs or ape
like humanoids, no hominids, and now living beneath the surface
of the Earth. The extra tempastoral theory is based on
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the belief that aliens might have traveled from the Moon
or other places to visit the Earth and then hidden
themselves away and are still here today. The fourth theory
deals with folklore creatures like fairies and elves, suggesting a
magical connection to humans. However, this is the oddest theory
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of the four and is often opposed by those who
don't believe in UFOs, and they think that these explanations
are hokey. Boys in the white lab coats are now
divided between accepting their brethren's theories, or standing fast alongside
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the old fogies who still hold some control over the
truth and how far it will go. When I was
a young there was no greater authority on space other
than Captain James T. Kirk. Captain Kirk himself is setting
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out to find the answers to the burning question of
whether there are aliens here among us in his new
TV show called Aliens among Us. Of course, this is
a streaming network which I'll probably never subscribe to. I'll
wait for it to be released on YouTube for free.
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I'm not cheap. I'm from William Shatner says, I'm not
going to try to impersonate the Captain. Yes I am,
he said. I spent decades pretending to explore space, and
(53:20):
then I got a chance to go there. William Shatner
said as he was previewing his new show, I want
to know is anybody out there? We asked pilots, space psychologists,
and government officials the big question, are there aliens among us?
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Shatner's new show challenges skepticism about UFOs, incorporates bombshell testimony,
and looks at interesting studies that all make the case
for the existence of something set beyond the world that
we know. We don't say, Look here a piece of
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a spaceship, he said during a special appearance on Fox
and Friends. Okay, enough of me not impersonating Shatner. It
might not be how he speaks, but it's how I
hear him speak. There are rumors that the American government
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has reverse engineered crashed saucers they've found to breathe that
they believe know that they know came from distant planets.
For the folks asking why a UFO never lands on
the White House lawn, what would that accomplish? Mess up
the grass and give the Secret Service a heart attack?
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You know they've all seen Independence Day. I believe the
aliens have already made contact with the in power, and
the White House isn't where it's at. Recently, airline pilots
reported UFOs dancing in the sky during a flight from Jetta,
(55:13):
Saudi Arabia to Abuja, Nigeria, and they captured footage of
three shining dots in the sky. Van Pengmanon, who was
responsible for capturing the footage, said that he saw as
many as four dots, each aligned in a way reminiscent
of the Phoenix Lights of phenomenon that happened back in
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Arizona twenty seven years ago. UFO mysteries have even captured
Americans at the federal level, prompting lawmakers to launch historic
congressional hearings on sightings, which there haven't been any in
a while. I wonder why it seems no matter what
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the folks Washington asked, the military just says they have
no UFOs, aliens, alien technology, or bodies. The deep state military,
the ones who believe they are allowed to control all
the information about anything they want, will never admit they've
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been lying, because the ramifications will be biblical. As soon
as one of these longtime military officers says, oh yeah, Roswell,
Cape Girardo, that UFO that crashed south of Laredo, Yeah,
that's all true. Well, people are going to start suing
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for the technology, seeing as we the people supposedly own it,
you know, us taxpayers. All that alien tech being secreted
away in underground bases and used for their personal advancement
would have to be available to us. Flying cars here
(57:06):
we come. Area fifty one would become a theme park.
Plus the oil and gas industry would be Kaputski in
a matter of weeks. No need for an internal combustion car.
If all you need is some unobtainium and a tinfoil ship.
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The peoples whose empires are built on oil would have
to find work, maybe in the food industry. Some people
picture aliens coming to Earth so that everybody can gather
around and sing Kumbayah and live happily ever after. I
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don't think so. Why do aliens choose to kidnap people
in the middle of the night and do weird things
that make parts of their bodies hurt? Why do they
scare the heck out of folks doing bizarre things that
they shouldn't be allowed to do. Here in the United States,
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we have laws against doing the things these aliens are doing,
but they just keep doing them anyway. If the aliens
are our space brothers, they sure have a weird way
of showing it. I get the impression that aliens are
more in league with the elites who want to rule
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our world and are willing to sign on with any
invaders as long as they are higher on the food
chain than the rest of us. The ones with the
knowledge are the ones with the power, whether we elected
them or not. Mark Twain once said if voting made
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a difference, they would never let us do it. Really,
it's for our own good. We can't handle the truth.
Were just too fragile to be shown alien technology without
becoming hysterical. The folks in charge like to roll out
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the old War of the World's radio broadcast and say, see,
people will go nuts. We must protect them from their
own nightmares. October thirtieth, nineteen thirty eight, Orson Wells and
the Columbia Broadcast Theater performed an adoption of the book.
(59:35):
Before the show, it was announced it was just theater.
It sounded like a real newscast. Only the people who
missed the first part thought it was real. Of those,
only a few actually went nuts. No rioting in the streets,
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no people shooting each other. That was all Hollywood, probably
with the blessings of the government, to make us citizens
look like a bunch of simpletons. The people who will
freak out are the ones eating tide pods and living
in their parents' basements. Maybe a few religious fanatics might
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take a step out of their own minds. That won't
be much of a change, so we might not even notice.
Most people are a lot tougher than the elites are
willing to admit. Now, how long would an alien being
have to live here on Earth before no longer being
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an alien? If a spaceship landed on the floor of
the ocean thousands of years ago, and the inhabitants they
made little aliens, how many years would need to pass
before the beings are considered to be earthlings? I'm asking
(01:01:03):
for a friend. Oh, and will Ice have to go
around and arrest space aliens if they run into any
of them? That would be cool to watch. Hope you
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