Henry Winkler "Fonzi" Hasn't Jumped the Shark | Panel (Ep25) - StreamLeader Report with Ross Brand

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All right. You may remember theactor Henry Winkler from playing Phonsie, the
probably one of the coolest characters onTV. Well, you probably didn't know
that he struggled with dyslexia and hehad some real challenges as an actor and
in the workplace. And of coursethings are getting different in the workplace.

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We're much more aware of different challengesthat people go through, were much better
able to accommodate them. Believe itor not, We've got a story that
relates to one of our past topics, which is robots. We'll also talk
about things with Chatchept moving forward andturbocharging it and also some ingredients in your

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food getting banned in California. Thisis The stream Leader Report. Let's do
a show. It's The stream LeaderReport. Live panel creators talking to creators,
craw real and unscripted, and sometimesthey see the quiet part out loud
cure. Your hosts Claudia Santiago,Rebecca Gunter, Rob Greenley, and Ross

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Brand. Hey Gang, Welcome toThe stream Leader Report. I'm Ross Brand.
My show is The stream Leader Report, and I'm joined by my co
host, Rob Greenley, host ofPodcasting Tips with Rob Greenley. Rebecca Gunter,

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the host of Business and the Raw, and Claudia Santiago from Viva Stage.
So welcome everybody. We've got somegreat topics to talk about today,
and we're gonna start off with astory that Claudia came up with. Claudia,
tell us about what you got theFunds? Hey, hey, wow,

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yeah, I remember the Funds andthe Happy Days. What a great
show that was? Hey yeah,ticking yell down to memory Lane here.
Amazing. And you know, hewas such an incredible actor that you would
never have known that he's seventy threenow, wow. Yeah, And he

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only found out that he had hehad dyslexia. The dyslexia when he was
thirty one, so for much ofhis career there he Well, from what
I was reading, he was thoughtof as lazy growing up and with kid

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chest us for that, and hecouldn't read even his lines for the shows,
most of them he's making up becausehe couldn't read. So I just
found the story incredible because number one, I didn't know he suffered from this.
But then two, we've talked aboutsome things and getting diagnosed in adult

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years, and so I thought,well, you know, with many creatives,
this might be encouraging, you know, if you've struggled in life or
you are struggling, you know,and and there may be something that could
help you, but you can't getthe help until there's some kind of diagnosis.
Now. The interesting thing too,I found was, and I don't

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know if you've got it there,Ross is he's now an author. He's
a best selling author. He's publishedlike twenty eight books or something so and
the books are based on him withdyslexia. So I like to get my
hands on some of those books.I don't know if you've got that there,
Oh yeah there. He is sotruly inspiring story. Even there's the

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picture of the books. Now,one of the things I thought was fascinating
was hearing that when he went forauditions, because he couldn't read from the
page, he wouldn't try his bestto memorize it. But of course,
the first time looking at a scriptisn't easy to memorize it, so he

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wouldn't make it up as he wentalong. And when they asked him why
he wasn't reading, he said,I'm giving you the essence of the character.
That's pretty cool, amazing, Iknow. So his book series is
called Hank Zipster, The World's GreatestUnderachiever, was based on Winkler's own experience

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with undiagnosed dyslexia. At the heightof my fame and success, I've felt
embarrassed inadequate, he writes. Soit's really quite something. And his wife
Stacy apparently also has a lot ofinput in the books and just from knowing
him personally, And it's kind offunny some of the stories I guess in
there as well. But Rob,you didn't you interview him or were part

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of some kind of interview, Yeah, I was. I was part of
an interview with Henry down in LosAngeles as part of a podcast that I
was involved in for CBS Television.So so my ex wife and I did

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a full day of interviews with alot of the leading stars from the Fall
lineup. The CBS Television kind ofkind of saying it was it's basically like
a like a big room where therewas a bunch of radio people there and
we were selected to do a podcastfrom there with all these celebrities, and

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mister Winkler came through and we didabout a fifteen minute conversation with him,
and and I met him and wasable to talk to him before and after
the conversation too. And I wouldsay the big thing, and this probably
won't be a big surprise to anyone, that really what brought mister Winkler to
the fame that that he has isthat he has a very people centric personality

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that really is outgoing, very thoughtful. You know, his his disability didn't
get in the way in my viewof his ability to connect with other people
and be a personality and and andperform. He is inherently a performer,

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but his ability to comprehend the writtenword. I was also diagnosed at a
young age as being dyslexic and hyperactiveand all that stuff myself, so I
can I can associate with that.It doesn't hold you back from success in
life, even though you feel badabout it, because the education system kind

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of punishes kids that are not,like, don't fit in the norm right
of what they expect the learning processto be or for a person, and
those people kind of get you lookeddown upon because they don't learn the same
way. But I would say,just my own personal experience with Henry Winkler's

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he's very intelligent man, and Ithink that's a common thread across ADHD as
well as dyslexic people is that they'revery intelligent people just at what's happening in
their brain, so that there wassome cause of this, and I'm not
one hundred percent sure that we knowone hundred percent what that is. I
kind of have an inkling of whatcauses this, but it's very controversial.

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As you know, Ross may understandwhat I'm saying, but it's it's it's
one of those things that you canovercome as you get older, and you
can kind of figure out new pathwaysto to learning and and I think it's
fantastic that he is taking that experienceand writing books to help younger people who

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may still be going through this forthe same reasons that you know, I
had that problem you know myself,are are continuing in the world today.
So I think we're seeing increasing amountsof young people coming down with these type
of limitations, and that's that's definitelya challenge for them. But I also

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think it's there's not a loss ofhope here. I think that those those
folks that have that disability can kindof rewire their brains as I get older
and learn the way that they canlearn, uh, And because that's the
pathway I had to take. Lookat look at the power of human beings.

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By the way, who just emergedwith another skill set. He became
an excellent listener and somebody who cankind of set exceed expectations by doing something
unexpected. And I think that's asuperpower. Yeah, because he just lit
up in front of the camera becausewe did then audio interview with him on

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on Mike, but I also setup a like a little video camcorder recording
of the conversation with him too,and when he was doing the podcast,
he'd be speaking to my camera,even though that wasn't the primary purpose that
he was there for. He wouldactually like reach out to the camera and
like talk to the people on video. So he was very natural on camera,

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but also just spoke in such apersonable way with even on the audio
side. So he was just kindof like engaging, very entertaining, very
you know, full of life.And I'm sure that completely overcame any imitations.
But he was frustrated because he wantedto fit in. Right. I'm

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just holding out my phone here becauseI'm reading something he said. I was
grounded. Ninety seven percent of myhigh school career. Yeah, he said,
I saw the man through the window, he said, but those early
hardships would motivate him to not justsucceed, but to appreciate his differences enough

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to write a book to help educateothers. And I think these are so
inspiring what he says here. Hesays, it gave me fight, It
gave me understanding that it doesn't matter. There is not one road to get
where you want to go. Thereis your road, exactly. And that's
my point is that those kids thathave those challenges have to learn a new

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way of learning, and the otherpeople around them have to get used to
that, and many of them don'tbecause they want you to conform to a
certain kind of especially our school systemwant you to informed to a certain type
of learning process. And you know, he just wasn't capable of doing that,
just like I wasn't either. Rob. When you interviewed him, was

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he already diagnosed? Did you knowabout he was? Probably this was back
in two thousand and five, ifI remember was either two thousand and five,
was diagnosed at thirty one, right, so I'm not sure. Yeah,
so he was probably after he alreadyknew, But then he was just
launching a new network television series andI think he was playing the role of

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a father and a family. Sothat's what the topic of this conversation was
was about that new fall series launch. And so, I mean, he
was just a very entertaining guy.I feel honored to actually have met him
and talked to him and had hadan understanding of you know what is behind

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that celebrity, And it's what youwould think. It's a person that is
outgoing, very gregacious, and verykind of engaging with people. And I'm
sure that the directors that he workedunder didn't mind that he was at libbing
because because it probably came across betterthan they had written. So when I

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was growing up, that show wason reruns constantly, Like you come home
from school? Happy Days? Isthat John? Yeah? Happy Days was
always on reruns. So for youngerpeople, there's an expression I think about
twenty twenty five years ago I heardit for the first time called jump the
shark that younger people may hear,and it's when a series or a show

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or a concept or you know,a relationship, when it's past, you've
run out of ideas, it's notworking anymore. It's it's losing its credibility,
and that came from an episode.And the episode was, of course,
when FANSI jumped the shark, andthat's the legendary episode where that expression

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comes from. He's on his waterskis or whatever with his leather jacket jumping
over a shark, and that wasthe moment people said, you know,
I think Happy Days is kind ofrun out of ideas. But anyway,
if you've heard the expression jump theshark, they say that about politicians who

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you know, had some mojo fora while and then nobody's interested in the
many more they've they've jumped the shark. So you'll hear that on the news
and on different different social situations fromtime to time brought up. I wanted
to ask you, Rebecca, becauseyou were diagnosed in your adult yours,

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what was that like? Oh mygod, it was the best news ever.
Oh really, such good news.Yeah, because then I understood everything
within that context, and I stoppedbeating myself up for not being neurotypical,
for not gelling in, for notfitting where you think, you know,
Rob could probably identify with the thoughtof, you know, this is something

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I have to fix or it's ait's a flaw, it's a person,
you know. I'm sure Henry L. Winkler was grounded for ninety seven percent
of his high school career. Whereyou feel like you're really broken or you
can't get your shit together, oryou know, you're just weird, and
you're spending all the time just kindof masking these symptoms. But then when
you find out that you're part ofa greater community and people are experiencing this

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stuff, things have names and youcan just say, you know, for
example, over I just really don'tlike overhead lighting, and I would kind
of go into an overhead lighting situationlike and then feel like very strange.
Well, now I recognize that alot of autists or people don't like overhead
lighting, and then that sensory overloadis hard to deal with SNA. I

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can just be comfortable saying, oh, that burns my autism. Man,
I need a light that just expressesto owning the truth of it. It's
one of the greatest things that everhappened to me. I truly believe autism
runs in family, So I trulybelieve my dad was autistic and suffered his
whole life with these just idiosyncrasies andeccentricities that alienated him from other people and

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made him a workaholic and not understandinghis own sensory issues and all that,
and he spent his whole life notknowing that's like trying. Ah, yeah,
I can imagine. It's definitely othering, it's definitely alienating. It definitely
makes you wonder like if there's somethingwrong, you know, what's wrong with

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me? And am I broken?And when you get when you get some
words to go with it in acommunity you can identify with. This is
one of the best things ever happenedto me in my adult life. Amazing.
And then when you were diagnosed,how was it for your business and
those around you, those that wereclose to you, did they get it
or were they kind of like Okay, what I mean, Claudia. I

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have the advantage of being a creativein a creat I'm a copywriter, I'm
a brand strategist. You know,I have the ability to be a little
bit more quirky or out off bookthan if I were an accountant, per
se. So I wouldn't say peoplewere tremendously surprised. I think person the
only person I remember actually saying somethingthat was like record scratch was actually you

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ross because we're talking about how Ido positioning, and I was like,
it was just an autistic pattern recognition, and you were like, what,
Like, there's probably other than that. I don't know if people were surprised
then, I think the weirdest thingthat happens is when you disclose it to

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either colleagues or to your friends orwhatever, and then they tell you you're
not You're not autistic. Okay,all right. Stuff you know impacts millions
of people, and a lot ofpeople try to hide it because they think
it's going to impact their careers orwhatever. It does. Yeah, so

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here's the Yeah, so here's aphotograph from the interview that I did with
him. I'm actually sitting right nextto the person on the right I don't
know which is my ex wife.So that's awesome. You're right, Rob,
people do suffer from feeling like they'vegot a mask or hide it.
And if I had a magic wandit would be to allow people to really

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see that it's a superpower. ADHDis a superpower. You're solving problems in
a way no one else is thinkingof. So framing it like a superpower,
framing it like an advantage man patternrecognition. Sure is convenient when you're
thinking about marketing. Sure, it'sconvenient. So yeah, I would celebrate

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it. That's my wish for theworld. Well, you know, when
I was growing up, we didn'thave at least I never heard until I
was probably in my twenties or thirtiesthe term introvert and what that meant.
And so it was always strange becauselike when I was in college, Thursday,
Friday, and Saturday, all myfriends wanted to go out, be

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social, go to parties, dothings, and I would go on Thursday,
but then I would want to stayin on Friday, and then I
would go again on Saturday maybe,And they didn't understand why I was willing
to give up a weekend night,and I just to me it was like
as an introvert, okay, ifI was out socializing on Thursday, like

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I got my pill, like Ididn't want. If I like and being
in a fraternity, we would havelike, you know, we'd all go
to the football game together and thenwe would have like happy hour where you
know, we'd open the house tolike all these you know, different groups
from campus and then they'd be likeI might hit one or two of the

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three things, but not like constantlyengaged in everything from the beginning till the
end. I would just need abreak and I would need to do something
else or some time alone or whatever. And I didn't understand what that was.
And it was sort of like myfriends were sort of like you go
into these stages where you're like youdon't want to be around anybody, or

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we think you don't like being hereor whatever. It's like, no,
I just I don't have the sametolerance for you know, that type of
busy, loud, chaotic, youknow, like I want my own time.
I need to like process what justhappened. Yeah, and did social

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anxiety hit you if you hit athreshold? Yeah yeah. If I hit
a threshold, it became uncomfortable.It's sort of like my mind's trying to
like lift itself out of there,and like, yeah, you know myself.
My challenge came where a lot oftimes if I was out performing and

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out in public and doing my jobso to speak, I would be slapped
on with a label that you're anextrovert. You're an extrovert, you know.
And then sometimes those that were introverts. I hate to say it,
but sometimes they would loathe the extrovert, you know what I mean. Now,

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The thing is, I always gotslapped with that label, but I'm
not an extrovert. I can.My extrovert comes out when I'm on stage,
when I have to do things whenI mean but then actually usually if
I'm on tour whatever, like thosethat really know me, they know I
will cave when I get back.I've had enough of people and I can

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only handle so much. And Iactually work in quiet most of my time,
so I'm want they you know.I had a mentor once say to
me, he's an amazing business owner, entrepreneur, and he said, Claudia,
you're like right brain, left brain. You have this creative thing,
but then you have this innate wayof organizing things. And so I'm kind

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of more of an ambivert and thatextrovert comes out only when it needs to.
But yeah, so, I mean, my challenge was always I was
always people were always labeling me,and I hated that after a while because
it didn't like I listened to thattoo much and it didn't let me be

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who I really am until until Ireally discovered how Claudia is wired and how
that comes out in different situations.So anyway, but now this is well
amazing topics. And I was justso intrigued by Henry Winkler and his latter
years and how he's just producing booksand like go go doah. Let's say

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a quick load of some of ourfriends in the chat. Bruce McKay is
here, Juan Santiago, uh,doctor Stewart is here, and Beauty Bubble
mentions that is episode twenty five ofThe stream Leader Report, which she says
is an achievement in itself. I'mvery proud that the stream Leader Report has
remained a consistent voice in these hecticand unusual times. And thank you to

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Beauty Bubble of course for being thereall along the way. And our next
story, we're going to go backto the robots. Rebecca tell us what's
going on with the robots. Imean it's kind of a segue actually into
talking about differences and disabilities, etcetera. Because I found this really beautiful

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story on the Tiki Taki where Ilike to spend some time, as you
know, about a Japanese inventor whohas channeled his robot building dreams. For
good and created. I wouldn't callthem an army of robots, but a
cafe in which people who are housebound, maybe they're a caretaker, and

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they can't really leave. They've gotsomeone sick in the house, or they
have physical disability or immobility issues,and they're allowed to participate. Not allowed
to That sounds so patronizing, butthey have the vehicle now to participate in
work life and some concert life.Would you like to see the media clip
where absolutely? Okay, hope,I'm right here with us today on Asians

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changing the world. We have YoshiFuji or Adi for sure, and Audi,
who kind of looks like a villainbecause he loves dress and all black,
like he's a Sith Lord, isactually the furthest thing from one you
see. Audi here started and runsa cafe that's mostly run by these robots,
But unlike the robots that we knowmostly from movies, that are run
by artificial intelligence, these robots,also known as Audieheims, are controlled remotely

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by humans, mostly of whom aredisabled. See The cafe is called DAWN,
which is an acronym for Diverse AvatarWorking Network, and there are server
avatars, Little bar top bar tenderavatar robots, and even Barista robots.
And these robots can be fully functionalwith just a movement of your eyes,
so that even if you don't havethe mobility of your arms and legs,

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you are still able to remotely controlthese avatars and work at dawn. And
spoiler alert, Odi doesn't just owndon Cafe. He's actually the inventor of
these avatar robots. You see,his company, Audi Laboratories has one mission
to eliminate loneliness from the human race, and he has been searching for ways
to create a society where people canmeet, work, and live like oneself,
even if one is bedridden or housebound. You see, Odi couldn't physically

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attend school between the ages of tento fourteen years old for medical reasons,
and instead of allowing that to becomehis origin story for his villain arc,
he instead decided to spend his timeinventing a balancing mechanism for electronic wheelchairs.
And fast forward to when Odi becomesan adult, one of his closest friends
gets a terminal disease that makes himbed ridden, at which point his friend

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tells him that the biggest pain beingbedridden is the fact that he is just
so lonely, which reminded ODI ofthe days that he was housebound when he
was safe during school. So hefounded ODI Laboratories and invented these Audieheims.
And these Audieheims are not just beingutilized inside of Don Cafe, but they're
actually starting to be used in otherindustries and in personal life throughout Japan,

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allowing people who are not only disabledbut also housebound to be able to work
remotely and take part in life outsideof their home. For instance, in
twenty nineteen, a sixty year oldgirl who was born with congenital myopathy,
which made it hard for her tobe able to move her arms and legs,
was able to remotely attend a popconcert and control the robot's arms and

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movements and reactions from her bed Yousee, only believes that in a time
where people are living longer than ever, that we will all be bed ridden
at one point, which is true. At some level. Most of us
are pre disabled, which essentially meansthat if we have the privilege of living
long enough, we will all encountersome level of disability in our lives.
Don Cafe alone employs over seventy pilotsranging for quadrit politics to caregivers who are

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homebound and unable to leave freely.So to be able to eat at don
cafe inside of the diner, youhave to make a reservation and it's a
fixed price of just under thirty USdollars, which includes a dish and a
beverage. You can also drink attheir bar without a reservation or get coffee
drinks from the barista without a reservation. And they have a pretty decent menu
ranging from sandwiches to curry to wagyou hamburg steaks, kids' menus, and

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even desserts. So if you arein Japan, make sure you go support
them. Optimism. That is awesome. I want to turn around story for
humanity right a mission to end worldloneliness or or however that was worded.

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That's a that's beautiful. It reallyis. It really is. I hope
for our Tinder Ross. I'm stillon it. I'm still on it.
So I stay home and just sendthe robot out wherever. Look. You
go out on Thursday night, therobot goes out Friday night, you come

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back out Saturday night, so youcan, you know, get your own
lone time with the extroverts, Allright, sounds like fun. So California
just banned four ingredients used in thousandsof candies cereals, and so does Rob

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Do you want to take that one? Yeah, It's an interesting kind of
story around a couple of different areas. But I think that the big takeaway
is is that government is getting involvedin, you know, making a decision
and making kind of legislation to limitthe use by the food manufacturers of certain

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type of ingredients. Right, Soyou think about you know, I think
increasingly we're hearing stories about these foodcompanies using ingredients that maybe aren't healthy for
us, and as we you know, continue to trust the food manufacturers,
maybe that trust is u is alittle unfounded. So I mean, I

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think it is a positive kind ofmove here, is to that the government
does need to kind of look outfor us because these these food manufacturers out
there are really in business to makemoney, right, and they're in business
to use ingredients that will keep usbuying their product, right, with maybe

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a little less regard for our humanhealth. So I think that's really you
know, what you could take awayfrom this My only observation because they did
in this particular legislation is that thathas been it's called a California Food Safety
Act into law. Is that itwould ban titanium dioxide, red dye number

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three, potassium bromate, and propilo parabins, which is a kind of
a mouthful to say, which I'mnot exactly sure what that is, and
then bromated vegetable oil, which iskind of interesting because all vegetable oil is
actually unhealthy for humans. But that'sa whole nother conversation. But it's interesting

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that this bill has been proposed,and I think that the government and the
FDA really needs to be involved inthis, which is a little bit surprising
that it would take separate legislation bythe state of California to start looking at
this. I would think this isin the realm of the Food and Drug
Administration right to look over food ingredientsand say, you know, look at

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the studies and the research to say, maybe these ingredients are unhealthy for humans.
Now they may be more profitable touse for the food companies, but
somehow we need to look out forhuman health here too, because a lot
of people will just blindly trust thatwhat they're eating is harmless and not even

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read the ingredient label. So that'skind of my take from this. I
hope we see kind of more ofthis, but I'm hoping that it will
come from the FDA and not necessarilyfrom individual states. Well Tony says,
California never had a thought. Theydidn't codify, codify, or legislate,

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which is absolutely true, and there'sa lot of naughty stuff going on in
California. However, in this case, I think they got it right.
I mean, our food standards inwhat we tolerate in the US are foods
that are banned in Europe and sometimesin Asia and Africa and Latin America and

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across the world, and we haveextremely lax standards on some of the ingredients
we allow. And I would thinkif California bans it, then the rest
of the country will benefit. Beingthe California is such a large percentage of
the population, it probably isn't worthit to manufacture, you know, differently

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for California than the rest of thecountry, I would think, although they
managed to manufacture differently for the USversus the rest of the world, or
at least versus Europe, which tendsto have very very stringent standards. So
This is a good, good stepin the right direction. There's no reason

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that companies should be able to putin food. There are enough natural ingredients
that are harmful, let alone toxicchemicals that you know clearly are dangerous.
And if they're in there, it'sonly because it makes the food look more
attractive, it makes it cheaper tomake, or it makes it there's something

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addictive about that substance that makes youwant to come back and back and back.
There's a reason that it's there,but it's not for the benefit of
the consumer. I also, mylittle conspiracy theorist goes hogwild thinking about how
the money's in the medicine baby,So if your food makes us sick,

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it throws us into the healthcare systemand brings all that financial extrapolation into play.
So I don't know that the foodand drug part are two are two
separate entities. In this situation,I smell nefarious nefariousness aflats more than just
cheaper to produce. Well, thatcould be, there's no question about that,

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I mean, but it also wasshocking to me, and I think
one of the justifications that they usedfor this legislation is that these particular chemicals
that they've identified are linked to cancercausing. But what I've learned is that
there's a lot of other ingredients thatare cancer causing that weren't on this list,

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And the biggest one is sugar.It's not necessarily always the cause,
but it cancer cells have been inthe studies have shown this are are fueled
by glucose, So those that havehigh levels of glucose in their blood are

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more likely to have fast growing cancercells. So, uh, it's it's
just one of those things that youknow, I didn't see anything mentioned in
here about really probably the number onemost dangerous chemical in our foods, and
that's granulated sugar. So agreed,sugar go ahead, Rebecca, Sorry,

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is is is just as egregious asthe street drug dealer on the corner.
Baby. Yeah. And it's whenyou talk about something that makes food addicting,
makes you want to eat more,gives you sensation because we're biologically pre

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determined or whatever that you know,something sweet. Ah, there's food,
you know, like it's sort ofthe reward center goes off for a second.
And so a lot of times whenyou eat out, you get to
restaurants whatever, such a heavy handwith the sugar because they want you to
get that little sugar rush and go, what a great time I had,

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What great food, you know,And a lot of times it's sugar and
salt that fat they're doing it,and you know, unhealthy fats like vegetable
oils and things like that. Andyou know, while there's the danger of
over over regulating and over legislating,it's almost at the point where this is

(35:45):
a national emergency or a national crisismore so than you know a lot of
the other things that you know,government tackles with health and healthcare and whatever
that you know, maybe we needto regulate what restaurants use, and you
know, from things like seed oilsto sugar, to amounts of sugar,

(36:08):
to amounts of salt to you know, because only if we have a level
playing field where everybody has to abideby. And I don't know how you
enforce it and all that, butI'm I'm just thinking out loud here that
you know, once a restaurant doesn'thave an advantage by you know, adding

(36:29):
too much something that's addictive or that'shigh inducing, then then maybe with a
level playing field, everybody has moreof an incentive. Plus the law behind
it to to do the right thing. Yeah, to kind of kind of
read a couple of aspects of theof the article here is it. It's

(36:53):
it's reported that around twelve thousand candies, cereals, and sodas would would be
and starting in twenty twenty seven.So it's not like this law is going
to go into effect very quickly here. It's still like four years away,
so we're not exactly on the cuspof having big changes happen rapidly here.

(37:15):
I think what they're trying to dois give the manufacturers an opportunity to modify
their recipes before that date, becauseif they are included after that date,
they will be by banned. Right, So I was just going to add
to the pan as we're surfry orsurf fry here is. You know,

(37:40):
we're in an age right now wherewe're human, but what's going to happen
when we are genetically modified? Andthese things have even been discussing, like
the cameras in our tongue, youknow, these kinds of things, and
how I'm going somewhere with us.So you know, the government has a

(38:02):
say in what goes into foods.You know, how is that going to
change. How is all that?Yeah, I mean it's going to be
a whole different world because it's coming. It's not like it's just like high
in the sky. They're already workingon that stuff. So you got to
feed the machine as well as thehuman, right, right, And and

(38:28):
you know it's like, okay,here's your diet for those all of those
that have these implants in and here'sthe diet for those that remained human.
We'll need kind of like clean energyhere for our robots, right, is
that what you're trying to imply here? So we can't burn fossil fuels to

(38:49):
create electricity for our robots because that'stoxic. We'll be it'll be interesting interesting
what controls what goes in foods?And right and and really too. Then
later on, you know, ifyou're genetically modified or you you become you
know, Superman or whatever, youknow, like who controls all that?

(39:13):
Who controls how much you do youryourself? Well, it's funny. Once
they see the corrosive effect that theseingredients have on the internal computer that they've
embedded in our forearm or wherever,then they will be much more interested in
banning it because it's bad. Forcommerce. Where it's bad for our health,

(39:36):
it's questionable whether it's bad for commerce, but uh where it's bad for
good for the healthcare industry ross exactly, exactly. Hey, we've got new
developments with chat GPT. Anybody wantto jump in on this one. Five
key updates in GPT dash for Turboopen open a newest model. Yes,

(40:02):
it's exciting. It also points tokind of what we've been talking about about
the evolution of AI and how rapidthose improvements and capabilities are going to come
at us. You know, Ithink we're seeing kind of like you know,
x also announced their new AI platformthat's coming as well. But I

(40:23):
do think that the chat GPT platformfrom Open Ai is kind of leading the
charge on what's happening here and thecapabilities of this tool, and I use
this tool. The Chat GPT fourwith the new capability of analyzing images and
documents and being able to tap intothe web and the Internet to create better

(40:49):
results is a major step. So, you know, the new knowledge cutoff
for the base platform, which usedto be September of twenty twenty one,
has now been updated through April oftwenty twenty three, So we're getting close,
So that was spring of this year. So as you can see,

(41:09):
we're rapidly catching up to real time. But some queries will search the web
to pull information like what bing hasbeen doing for many months now, and
combining AI generator results with deeper contextscoming out of the current information that would

(41:30):
be on the web and the Internet. So there was also the ability of
longer prompts which means that you caninput more textual information into your query of
sorts up to one hundred and twentyeight thousand tokens of texts of context which
is basically characters, which is quitequite a bit. And the capability of

(41:54):
the output is much more expanded too, so it's called the g turbo capability.
And then also being able to analyzeimages that are taking taking either real
time or photographs or graphics whatever.And also it has the ability through the

(42:17):
Dolly three platform to generate graphics andillustrations also same you know, in the
same kind of queries, so youcan ask for text output. You can
also layer on text on top ofthe illustrations that it creates. Now it's
not going to take like an existingphotograph of like one of us and generate

(42:43):
any any derivative of that image.So it isn't like you can upload a
picture of yourself and it will,you know, deage you twenty years or
something like that. It's not goingto do that kind of stuff, but
it will take that information and itwill create a unique version of that.
They really are cautioned around that areabecause they don't want to get involved in

(43:06):
copyrighted stuff. So anything that isgenerated in this new platform is going to
be unique. It's going to bedifferent, it's going to be less personalized,
but it will be customizable. Soyou'd be able to tell it that
it put these text characters on theimage, and then give it some instructions

(43:27):
around what kind of context visually thatyou want based on the query. So
tell it that you want mountains ora river or trees, or give it
some idea of what you want incontext, or just upload a bunch of
text to it from something and itwill analyze all that text and come up
with a visual representation of what itreads in the text. And then also

(43:52):
it gives capabilities ultimately for what wesee in the next in the coming months
of each one of us being ableto generate our own personal AI through this
platform too. It's going to becalled GPTs is what they're going to be
calling it. So it'll be likeeach one of us could go in and

(44:12):
create a customized version of Chat andGPT that will learn about our life and
learn what goals that we have,and it will assist us in achieving those
goals. And so that's kind oflike the next big evolution I believe is
that the AI is going to beused for personal AIS, So it'd be

(44:34):
almost like a personal agent for eachone of us in how we live our
lives. Now, granted, that'llthat requires us to open up our personal
data to the AI right and givea view into our personal lives, but
that also has a positive opportunity too. It has the positive opportunity of being

(44:57):
able to assist us in the compflex tasks of life. But yet there's
a trade off for that. SoI would say that those are the big
areas of improvement that we're seeing here, and we're rapidly approaching what has been
commonly called the freaky zone of this. So you can today take your phone

(45:20):
and you can take photographs of theworld around you right into this AI platform
and it will analyze everything around youand make recommendations or interpretations of what you
see. So let's say you goto an airport and you come up to
a sign that gives you instructions inanother language, or it has graphical representations

(45:43):
of let's say a bathroom or agarbage can or something like that. You
can have the AI analyze that imageand interpret what that means. So there
may be ways that we can usethis. Or let's say a plant in
your house is sick or something likethat. You can take a picture of
it and the AI will analyze itand will give you recommendations on how to

(46:05):
improve that plant. Maybe you cando that. Now that's now, yeah,
exactly through specialized apps. But whatwe're saying, what we're seeing happen
is is a lot of these spinup companies that we've seen AI companies are
basically just individual features that will cometo these bigger language learning model platforms like

(46:29):
chat, GPT and bart and andand was it was it growed I think
is the term that Twitter is goingto have that are going to aggregate all
these capabilities into one big platform.And so what we're going to see is
a lot of these smaller AI startupcompanies start to lose market share as these

(46:50):
bigger platforms incorporate all that capability intoone tool that you pay one subscription to.
So so, and it's happening somewhatto podcasting too. So you know,
there's a lot of startups that startedto offer certain specialized capabilities with AI
that are now capable within just yourmembership subscription to Open AI and Chat GPT

(47:15):
four with this upgrade, with thisturbo upgrade, you can do all the
same things that you would pay anextra twenty dollars a month to go to
some smaller startup company to provide you. Have you heard of Magi m Ai
No, I haven't. That's probablythat's probably an example of what I'm talking
about, right. Yeah. Itsays the world's most powerful AI tools at

(47:38):
your fingertips. Let me let meshare, Let me share the screen real
quick and you can take a lookat what this is. But I think
this is kind of what you weretalking about. Here we go, okay,

(47:59):
So this brings together a whole bunchof different tools. It says the
world's most powerful AI tools at yourfingertips, and as you scroll down,
you can see the best AI chatbotsplus powerful tools, multiple AI models,
read any web page, get YouTubetranscripts, so on and so forth.

(48:23):
Do more than just chat with AI, create chat folders, paste the link
magic, I knows what's there.Easily access your most powerful prompts. If
Chat gipt goes down, your historyis still accessible. Has AI personas,
say prompts, AI assistant folders,chat history, and so it not only

(48:45):
has chat GPT, but it includesClaude two, Palm two, Liama two.
It's got like I Midge, It'sgot Dolly two probably now it's got
Dolly three or soon mid journey.And you pay a price and you get

(49:08):
access to all those those different things, Right, what's the price? That's
a tough question because I think there'sa monthly price, but some of the
things are still add ons. ButI closed out the window before I could
tell I got it here. Personalis nine dollars a month. Then you

(49:30):
go to professional twenty nine a month, Professional plus forty nine a month,
Agency seventy nine a month, Agencyplus ninety nine a month, Enterprise forty
nine, So it goes up toforty nine quite a bit there. Yeah,
Kim Reynolds had recommended it when Ihad her on a show she's specializing

(49:51):
right now in AI and marketing,so amazing. It's an example of I
think where things are are probably going. Based on what Rob was saying,
Rob, do you think this isthat this is the end of the road
for life coaches, I don't know. I think that those soft skills still
have value. I'm not sure thatthe AI models have the ability to really

(50:15):
represent human emotion and human trust inhuman connection at the level that humans can
still provide, and I have ahard time thinking that AI will ever be
able to achieve that entirely. Ithink humans trust humans more than humans trust

(50:37):
machines. But I do think thatthose lines are getting closer together as these
AI platforms become more human. SoI think that's the that's kind of the
the line here, you know.I think that the concept of artificial general
intelligence is actually I think the properway of looking at that is that is,

(51:01):
I think, closer to human intelligence. But I don't think that we're
quite there yet. I think it'sit's getting there, but I don't know
that we're quite there yet. It'sgoing to be interesting to see what,
like maybe in three or four orfive years, what a AGI robot looks
like. And I do think thatcompanies like Tesla and are going to build

(51:25):
that in because if you look atthe Tesla cars today, the twelve point
zero version of full self driving isbasically an AI artificial general intelligence platform that's
based on vision and sensors, right, So that's the input that it uses
to make determinations about the world.And if you think about how humans do

(51:45):
that, we do the same thing. We have vision and senses that help
us navigate the world and make decisionsabout the world. That's what this new
model that the cars are going tohave. And I've been hearing more talk
about the Tesla vehicles having integrated AIinto the car itself for the driver,
so the driver will be monitored byvisual cameras as well to determine, you

(52:12):
know, are you awake, areyou paying attention, are you focused?
Or are you falling asleep? Andand the car may be able to take
over driving if you doze off orsomething like that. Are you texting,
are you smoking joint? Or rightthe police behind you? You know,
right, at some point that carwill will just start driving for you.

(52:37):
And and you can start watching YouTubevideos in the car while you're driving,
So it's you know, I thinkthat that's kind of the evolution of this
going to bee dropping binge watching twentyfour episodes of the stream Leader Report,
how about that, that's exactly what'sgoing to happen. Go right to the
playlist and right, you know,I mean, you got that big screen

(53:01):
in the car, so there's noreason why you can't just pop up,
you know, a YouTube video andwatch us talk talk nonsense. So right.
Regarding life coaches, Beauty Bubble saysthe humane AI pen wearable may be
allowing for a life coach to beaccessed more easily for their clients, and

(53:22):
she also says a joint in acheezburger, my girl. Well, with
that, we're just about out oftime, Rob, what do you have
coming up on your stream Yard showtonight? Podcasting Tips with Rob Green will
this same topic. I'm I'm goingto have Larry Roberts on with the red
hat media folks. He's going tocome on. He's he's built a reputation

(53:44):
for having a strong kind of perspectiveon what's happening with AI too, and
so that's gonna be the topic ofthe show, and we're going to take
questions suf It's a seven pm Easternon the stream Yard channels, so it'll
be live. So if you wantto join us and interact, ask questions,
and we're going to have a completeconversation about all this and how people

(54:05):
can take advantage of it or theycan get freaked out by it. So
are you going to raffle off anyducks? That's well, of course we
are. We're going to raffle offducks, maybe even a mug, you
know. Oh my god, bingeYouTube, not sugar. What's going on
in the stone Fruit world? Ah, thank you so much. We're wrapping

(54:25):
up a six series mini series episodeon stone Fruit roll Up in which business
coast Jill Monks is rewilding our entirebusiness. And we started live streaming our
recording sessions for season two of Businessin the Raw on Tuesdays at ten o'clock
at the stone Fruit YouTube channel.You can get a fly on the wall

(54:46):
perspective as we capture all that beautifulbusiness building to turn it into season two
ten am Eastern on Tuesdays, right, yes, sir Claudia stage. Yes.
So now Claudia Santiago is developing somenew tribute shows and I'm excited about
that. But I've also been inthe broadcast studio filming for Expert TV and

(55:14):
where I am sharing nuggets speaking butalso bringing in some music and you know,
we we'll pin it up, butalso bringing us some practical things.
So I'm excited for that, allright. So for Claudia Santiago, Rebecca
Gunter and Rob Greenley, I'm RossBrand. Thanks everybody for joining us for

(55:36):
the stream Leader Report. Catch usagain next week Thursday, one thirty pm
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