Time to Build a Bunker? | Panel (Ep37) - StreamLeader Report with Ross Brand

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Hey, hey, the rich andfamous are doing it, even at ordinary

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Americans are doing it? Should webe? Should we be building a bunker?
We're gonna talk about it next onthe Stream Leader Report. Let's do
a show. It's The stream LeaderReport. Live panel creators talking to creators,
craw real and unscripted, and sometimesthey see the quiet part out loud.

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Here are your hosts, Claudia Santiago, Rebecca Gunter, Rob Greenley,
and Ross Brand. Hey gang,welcome to the stream Leader Report. I'm
Ross Brand. The show is thestream Leader Report. And joining me from
Claudia Santiago dot com is international recordingartists Claudia Santiago. Hopefully Rob Greenley will

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be joining us soon and Rebecca Gunterwon't be here today as Rob makes his
way in shortly, Rebecca is celebratingsweet sixteen for her daughter. So we
wish Rebecca and her daughter a wonderfulsweet time today and this weekend. And
meanwhile, we have the Great Hallof Fame Podcaster Podcasting Tips with Rob Greenley.

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Mister Rob Greenley, welcome, Rob, thank you, Sorry I got
here. No worries, No worries. We're rolling right into a hot topic
today and Claudia, you're the onewho suggested this topic, and I've taken
a look at some things about it, and I've got to say that the

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topic of bunkers definitely taps into someof the worst fears of what life on
this could be like in thinking ofwhy people might want a bunker. What
did you find out when you werelooking into the topic of the rich and
famous, in particular, building thesebig bunkers on their property. Right,

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So, first of all, Ikind of came across it, not because
I was particularly looking for that.I was just getting opened up my phone
to look at the news feed,and I read something about Zuckerberg purchasing property
on Hawaii, and he's got thisbig team working and they're under some kind

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of a kind of clause in theircontract that they can't post on social they
can't talk about it, and it'sall about his bonker. Now, as
you know, and maybe some ofyou that are just joining stream Lader report
now, actually I am a survivorof a civil war and going way back.

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So even though this whole bunker thingseems condon here, actually going way
back and in war times, uh, you know, this is actually not
something too new I mean even lookat how the Egyptian's built. Hello,
Uh, they had all kinds ofunderground stuff going on. But I guess,

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I guess for our topic today isis I was intrigued h and my
little curious minds want to know.A little brain was thinking, hmm now
with new technology, with a Iwith brain implants with hmm, how are
these bunkers gonna look? How arethey functioning differently? Anyways? So that's

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kind of one of my little angles. I left you speechless. Yes,
there's so many directions. There's somany directions to go with this. I
don't even know where to begin.But let me let me throw this out

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and then I'm kidd Is the primaryreason to survive a you know, nuclear
apocalypse or you know, a muchmore dangerous pandemic. Is it because they're
planning something and they know what's coming. Or is it they're afraid of our
traditional global enemies or extraterrestrials or thefailure of technology, all of the above,

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none of the above. What whatis motivating these folks to buy all
the material and spend all the moneynecessary for something which they may or may
not ever spend time in. Right, you know, I just want to
maybe bring a personal story to this. Actually, we lived in the States

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for for a few years and boy, you know, you're in the States
when all of a sudden you acrossthe border and the Mexican food's just like
amazing out of the park, rightand the barbecue and how they put up
flags, you know, all overthe streets on in the tennis day.

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Oh anyways, and they all carryguns. It's like, you're not in
Canada anymore. But our neighbor,okay, our neighbor okay. This was
really wild because I had never hada neighbor in Canada oh my life that
literally they you know, they wereamazing people and they they you know,

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we're having a chit chat with thembecause we saw that they had their truck
and they had this big trailer thatthey would load up every weekend. And
it was like, wow, youguys going camping, Like what are you
guys doing? And they said,actually, we purchased a property way out
in the mountains and they had allkinds of of things that were being they

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would order and they would be deliveredto their house and they'd fill up their
trailer and they would go out tothis property, and we're going, oh,
okay, like what do you whatdo you? What do you?
What are you doing out there?What turns out they're building a bunker and
it's way out there, and theywere taking they would do shopping trips at

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Costco. They'd stock up, theywould go and they'd start like preparing this
shelter. And and honestly, atfirst, as a Canadian, I'm going
like, what the what? Anduh. He would tell us certain things
that were happening in the States orworldwide, and it was almost like he

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had this intelligence that just would blowyour mind. And at first, to
be honest, I'm just gonna bereal honest, I thought he's whacked,
Like what like conspiracy, see thereis you know whatever. But you know
what, Now, all the thingshe was talking about back then, this
was years ago, it's like allsurfacing. It's like this guy was not

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far off well. Joey Garrety bringsit an interesting point just personally, if
the world is coming to an end, no bunker for me. I wouldn't
want to be here when people comeout of their bunkers. Lol, just
saying I've heard the expression that theliving will envy the dead. If it

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comes to a situation where you wouldneed to be in a bunker and such
unless you have a really good bunkerand security and I don't know, I
mean, how how do you keepI don't know, how do you keep
safe air in there? How doyou keep right power in there? And

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I mean you have to not beconnected to the grid whatsoever, because we're
talking about probably a situation in whicheither there's a cyber attack on the grid
or an EMP low level like nuclearsituation that basically takes out our grid and

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we don't know how to live.I mean, we just have no capability
of producing food, of seeing ofthe stone age right within minutes. And
that's where you know, having abunker to hide out for a little bit
might be good or it might justbe delaying the inevitable. I don't know.

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Rob you want to be in abunker when that happens. You want
to be hit by the missile andnot have to know anything about it,
or you want to be out therefighting your neighbor for the last squirrel or
whatever. I think this whole concepthas been around for a long time.
I mean, if you think abouteven going going back to basic things like
tornado bunkers in the Midwest and andthings like that that people run down in

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to avoid getting swept up by atornado. So this concept has been around
for a long time. But Ithink what's different now is this concept of,
you know, building a bunker thatyou can live in for months possibly,
And that's that's what we're seeing herewith these with these billionaires, is

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it's not just for a random eventkind of kind of protection. This is
for for a very disruptive type oftype of event. And and increasingly if
the billionaires are are doing this now, though I think a lot of them
have been doing it for a longtime. So I'm not really sure this
is entirely as new of a thingas it's being portrayed. But I do

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think it's a sign of a lotof worry that exists in our society and
our cold Sure. I don't knowif you saw that Netflix movie, but
that was co produced by Barack Obamaabout the end of the world. As
far as a you know, it'sbasically like you said, Ross a e
MP type of an explosion, whichis an electromagnetic weapon, right, which

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is most likely what would happen,right, would be that type of thing,
because our enemies are not going towant to destroy the infrastructure of this
country. What they want is totake it down, so it's easy to
conquer potentially if that's what the goalis. So but you won't. You
really don't want to blow everything up. That's kind of a you know,

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and have our radiation everywhere. Sothese bunkers are really really to protect against
that type of an attack I think, or a biological weapon or something like
that, and to be able towrite it out for some period of time,
though there may not be much Likewas said earlier, there may not

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be much to I'm up above groundafter something like this happens. Come of
Crusaders mentioned the movie that you mentionedthat Obama produced, and that's taking a
look at one of the horrible scenarios. And I think you mentioned in the
chat that it's maybe ten to fifteenyears off that threat. I'm not so

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sure. I just think it couldhappen. I think we're very lucky in
a lot of ways that the wrongpeople haven't gotten in their hands on it.
But given the level of global competitionand animosity right now, the powers
that do not like the United Statesright now and would think that we're an

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upstacle to what they want to do. Have that capability well in space weapons
is increasingly becoming if you've heard inthe news today, But there's some threat
warnings going out from the White Houseabout some sort of space threat. Uh.
They're pointing at Russia, but itcould be really any any Uh.

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It could be a bunch of differentcountries that have space weapons now that could
be could be deployed. So Idon't know if it's hard to tell if
this is just fear mongering, orif it's just trying to get support for
an aid package or Yeah, Imean, there can be a lot of
agendas behind this kind of worry anddiscussion. But all I know is it's

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really a blatant disregard for for youknow, regular people, right, because
if they're going to throw out thingsthat are that are going to instill fear,
you have to wonder what the realmotivation of doing that is. But
granted, I mean, are wegoing to be prepared for whatever this is

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based on what they've told us?I mean, sure, you know,
let's go out and get our backupsupply of food and our backup supply of
water and have a generator and thingslike that. But you know, how
do you power the generator. Well, you're gonna have to power it with
like propane or you're gonna have topower it with some sort of fuel,
right that you'll have to right,And I guess if you're like Zuckerberg or

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somebody of that level of well,a huge tank, huge storage. But
how where we're living, you know, in normal size houses and apartments and
stuff. Where do people around Yeah, where do people keep all that stuff?
They don't. I mean there's notenough room to keep the propane to

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power your generator for what more thana day or two or hours? Well,
I mean you can get large propanetanks. I've done it for some
properties that I've had in the past, where you can you know, have
these like these two hundred gallon propanetanks or something like that that can be
located on your property. Actually leasethem and they just come out and fill

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it up with It's kind of likehaving an oil tank. Somebody will steal
that in two seconds if we're ina lawless spunk. A little hard to
move those, Uh, they're prettyheavy and big, you know. I
I found it interesting when I waskind of digging into this a little bit
more, was that it seems likea lot of the tech giants are really

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investing in islands and in properties andthe bunker thing, which is really interesting
to me because years back that probablywouldn't have been the thing. It was
just kind of the people with themoney and fear mungering. But there's so
much power in tech, in thesetech giants that they need to It's a

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lot of money and a lot ofpower, a lot of influence, I
mean, influencing elections everything, right, So I found that quite interesting for
WHI. And there was obviously Buggerstwo that had like they just looked like
a freaking resort. They had golfcourses and pools and all that kind of
thing. But I find it interestingalso that someone like Elon who has been

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investing in space and so you know, we're going under the Earth and we're
going above the hemispheres. And Idon't think it's as much for your mongering,
to be honest, I think thatdo you think it's a legitimate.

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Well, when we think about it, think about you own a business.
Okay, you own a business,and that business has grown and has a
lot of staff, revenue, hasa lot of investment. Okay, well,
are you going to protect that?Is there a legitimate reason to protect

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from cyber attacks from any kind ofwhat is it they use a term what
was it? Bruce was talking tome about last night. Black? Is
it blackout events? Black or somekind of thing or like event A certain
type of event like COVID was kindof one of those, but it was
you know, when the stock marketblack swan event, that's it, the

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black Swan events. So in historywe see that there have been black swan
events. So I don't think it'sas much conspiracy as I mean, obviously
when you look at some of thesebunkers out like totally overblown. But when
I look at this, I go, hmmm, you know there might be
some some intelligence there is it?Is it? Ah? Is it as

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bad as maybe they make it outto be to put this amount of money
into stuff? I don't know.What do you think, Rob, You've
got the you've got the level headedA. Rod's our anchor I always go
to. I don't know. Ido think that we're kind of coming into

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a time when this convergence of technologyand political instability, UH in context with
the US in relation to what we'reseeing happen in Ukraine and the power change
that maybe is happening around China,And so you're seeing a lot of geopolitical
tension that's happening around the world rightnow, what's happening in the Middle East

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and things like that. So weare kind of a little bit on a
powder keg moment, right And itdoes make you wonder why that's all happening
now. So we may not haveprivy to the real kind of reasons for
a lot of this going on,as just as I think we all recognize

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that, you know, these covertagencies around the world actually drive a lot
of the world events that happen rightit depends there's a lot of kind of
geopolitical, kind of economic and physicalwarfare that's going on amongst all these countries,
and there is a desire to change, make dramatic changes that involve AI

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technology, robotics, autonomy, andit's putting a lot of stress, I
think on the civilian population. AndI think that's really what we have to
be conscious of, is that whatwe're seeing with these billionaires maybe a reaction
to inside information that they have thatthere is some sort of an event coming
of some sort no idea what timeframe or what that event actually would be,

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but they want to be prepared,right and they have the money to
be prepared right where most of usmay be. You know, you can
spend five thousand dollars and have agenera generator put up attached to your property
and get a propane tank that'll fuelthat for maybe a month. Maybe you
know, I've actually had had anr V that was attached to a large

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propane tank for and it lasted abouta month or so. So you could
basically power your home for a monthprobably on one of these generacs if if
you were to have a power odge. But if they do an e MP
event, it's gonna it's gonna basicallykill off anything that you have that actually
would use electricity, so that thatgenerator may not be very useful to you

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in that context. We got welet me just mention, we've got a
great chat going on. Tomc.Crusaders is all over it, Barb Tomlin
is here, Carlos Phoenix, somany people, Joey Garerty's here, and
why Girl New York Girl is here. If I miss you, I'm sorry,

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but I am so glad you're joiningus as the comments have been coming
in a lot of insight on onthis topic. All right, let's bottom
line this first of all, interms of the fear, do Russia,
China, North Korea and or Iranhave the capability of putting the power grid

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in parts of North America out forlong enough that people face starving, people
face violence, people face a horrificstone age experience that doesn't end quickly.
Yeah, it's it's certainly very it'stechnologically possible. I think it just depends,

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and you know, I think wehave to just be trust trusting that
our government has been good at ferretingout these these you know, these kind
of bugs that can get in infrastructure, computing systems that have on off switches
that are controlled by our enemies.So it's it's technically possible, and it's

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probably in some cases likely that thatinfiltration has occurred in a variety of different
ways. I mean, malware andviruses and things like that are common things
in the world, and so youknow, it's certainly a possibility, And
why it hasn't happened is also aquestion that I have. I think it

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has happened, but I think oftentimesthe media will suppress that information and say
it's something else. Right, It'salmost like there's an effort to basically not
alarm the citizenry of basically a cyberattack. I know, I hear rumors
all the time that there certain groupsare under attack and your information has been

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compromised on this platform or that platform. Those are equivalent to the same type
of type of attack. So nowI guess with with Russia and China,
are they too dependent still on foodand other things from the US where doing

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an emp attack on us would dodamage of such measure to themselves even if
we didn't know it was them,even if we didn't respond that they'd be
you know, starving part of theirpopulation or depriving their population of energy and
needed resources. So no, Iwould that could be this incentive would you

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call it? Or? For thosewe have gone through the last couple of
decades of building interdependencies amongst countries foreconomic reasons, right, so if one
country goes down, like the UnitedStates, we're like, you know,
we run the monetary system. Thoughthat's kind of declining to some degree as

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the bricks nations have gotten together andused the yuan to buy oil and things
like that. So the US dollarsbeing used less and less as the reserve
currency, and that is basically pullingback the power that the United States has
in the world economy. So asthat retracts, then there's maybe more of

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an incentive for our enemies to tryand take us down because they've got infrastructure
established in their inter relationships. Solike in Russia, Russia is getting a
lot of their economic support system comingfrom other parts of the world now because
we did those sanctions on Russia formany years and that cut them off right.

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So what Russia has had to dois respond by creating a new infrastructure
around their country and that's independent ofthe US. So if we keep pulling
back from the global economy, there'sless dependency in these inter relationships. And
that's why it may cause, youknow, a multi year delay in any

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kind of an attack on us tofinally take us out, is those interconnections
and those inter relationships start to erodeto the level that they don't need us
anymore. Well, I guess myfear more right now, I guess would
be either North Korea, because theydon't really seem to care whether their population

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starves or not or Iran because theymay see it as a religious you know,
they'll be rewarded in the next worldif it suffering comes back to to
to to them. So I mean, but I don't know if they have

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the cap I don't know if Iranhas the capability yet or not. And
I don't you know, I'm notsure that those in power, which is
a very slim number of people inNorth Korea, maybe one man in sister
or whatever, but I'm not surethey want to die. So, you
know, I don't know if thisstuff is traceable. They might be okay

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if all their population starves, butthey might not be okay if if they
are found out to be the oneswho did it. So I guess there
are things that are deterring this,but it's not real comforting to think that
the scenario is out there and wehave no idea whether our government military intelligence

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services are have safe what kind ofsafeguards they have to prevent this from happening,
because certainly, once it happens,I don't think we have the response
capable. I mean, what wouldit take to feed millions and millions of
people, and you know, wejust don't have that capacity. Yeah,

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and I think that the big thingtoo is the development of AI technology,
because if you think about this fromthe context of all these countries need is
a handful of very very talented hackersthat can infiltrate systems because they're very knowledgeable
about breaking into systems. Right,Well, I use a handful of people

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to do that, and I'm surethe US has more than a couple of
handfuls of people that are experts atthat as well. So there's probably countermeasures
that exists in our security infrastructure,right and all these countries have that,
So there's always countermeasures that are goingon. But I also wonder about the
influence of AI technology that we're notaware of, right, AI technology that

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have been weaponized to do this hackingand to do these kinds of things to
get into systems. Based on thecapability of AI as a as a weapon
too, you know that doesn't gettalked about a lot, how AI could
be turned into a weapon. Yeah, it is changing the game. In

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fact, Elon is always talking aboutthat, which is very interesting because I
thought he'd be the other way.So I just want to interject here for
a minute if I can. I'mreading the chat here and bopping between YouTube
and Facebook and it's amazing. Likeyou guys, all of you in the
chat are just bringing forward some likeamazing insights and I wish we could delve

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into each and every one of them, but you know, I just want
to point out one, by theway, I just want to say,
how to Joy Guarantee, who isWomen's Superstar Women Entrepreneurial Network. I was
on her broadcast yesterday and interview andI got to catch that replay. I
didn't see it live, but you'llhave to. I'll post it later in

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the comments or something. But anyways, the reason I bring up Joey is
because she is building up women withtheir own businesses and helping them move forward.
And this is something to just bringoff of what Carlos Phoenix is saying.
Yes, there's a lot, alot, a lot and the Black
Swan thing that's coming with what anopportunity for us to build as creatives,

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to build our own businesses, tobuild something outside of what maybe could be
more controlled by governments or by thesystem. You know. So yeah,
so my hat goes off to youguys. A lot of incredible insights here,
but I do want to bring itover to a personal story again going

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back to Chili where there was aoverthrow. Okay, and I recently found
out there's all kinds of bunkers allover it Chile, and a lot of
that came from the Germans, camefrom that war when they all escaped Germany
and they were continuing to do theirworld there. But when the war happened

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there, the borders got closed off, the electricity was regulated, the water
was regulated, the sirens would gooff. Everybody have to scramble and run
into some kind of shelter outside ofthe roads, otherwise you'd be killed.
Okay. So I guess what I'msaying is here in North America, you

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know, and with all honor,I don't mean to demean you guys,
but here in North America, wereally have no clue as to what can
happen. And so I don't thinkthat this is conspiracy. I think that
there's some real reality to some ofthis. Also in Argentina, toured a
lot throughout Argentina, and I alsolived in Argentina after our family was taking

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out of Chile for safety. Weactually lived in Argentina for a while,
but then as a recording artist,I went back there and I performed at
various cities throughout Argentina. What Ifound out there is they had suff for
three national bankruptcies. You guys,okay, if you can think about this,
You've got your money in the bank, you got your life savings in
the bank. Now you have tounderstand in Latin America, they don't earn

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top dollars like we do here inNorth America. You know, they really
most people are holding two three jobsat a time and they have all their
money in the bank. Well,when those national bankruptcies happened, you guys,
all the bank accounts got shut down. No one had access to their
own money. They were starving,they were hungry. And you know what

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happened through all that, exactly whatCarlos is saying. They got entrepreneurial.
They started building side businesses, theystarted doing things that made themselves self sufficient.
So I hope that didn't sound likea rent. It's just that,
I honestly, these black Swan events, I don't think we're going to I

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don't think it's conspiracy. I don'tthink that. I think there's a real
reality in it. There's a reasonRussia and China have all of been investing
in space. Does not surprise methere's a space attack anyways, that's just
me, Like Rebecca says, Isay the quiet things out loud. Well,
you know, I mean, comparativelyto much of the world, Chile

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did a pretty impressive job of comingout of a turmoil and dictatorship and so
forth and having a fairly successful economyand basically moving into being a first world
country. And that's not a transitionthat most countries make, especially after what

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you know, what you described,and you mentioned that there's the issue of
you know, we've been kind ofspoiled here in North America. The wars
have been generally overseas and we haven'thad to live in bunkers since. But
that just makes it even scarier becausewe're not conditioned to you know, at

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least Stone Age man and woman hadto live in the Stone Age, right,
We have our food delivered, wehave our we've lived how you know.
I'm just thinking back to like afterHurricane Sandy. I was over a
week without electricity here in New Jerseyand it was November. Wasn't the worst

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the winter, but no electricity,no clean running water. And what was
really weird is the way it worked. With some neighborhoods. You could be
like without water, so you're like, you're wearing seventeen sweatshirts, you're you
haven't showered all week, and thendown the block the power didn't go out

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and they're walking around like it's aholiday. I know. You know what
Right now as we speak, ifyou look in the chat, bart Tonelin
is without power. She is watchingus on her phone, and you're right,
Barb, the power grid is nothingto ignore, it really isn't.
I have to be really patient tobe honest. Again, I'm just it's

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not around. I'm just telling youmy truth as an immigrant, as one
of io has gone through a civilwar. It's really hard sometimes to be
in a country like Canada where everybodystarts going, oh my gosh, you
know what Trudeau is doing is like, so communists, we're under communists.
I go, honey, you haveno idea what communism is. You know,

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when you cannot eat well, youdon't have light, when when tanks
are going down the streets and runninginto houses, are we woman, that's
freaking communism. You know, peopledon't get it. And I try to
be really patient, but this isthe thing is with people building bunkers going

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back to all this, and alot of them are the high tech company
owners. There's reasons, and that'sone of the reasons I brought it up
because I think just like we allsat around thinking, Okay, there's all
this new tech coming and all ofa sudden, boom, AI is here
and we're all going the heck justhappened. In some ways, I think

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we can't in this tech age.We can't turn a blind eye. And
I love that in this panel webring up topics and you know, you
ross and we're back Hut and robtopics that sometimes are a little hash hush,
because I think we do need totalk about them. And that's also

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one thing I learned through the waris the power of community. And one
of the reasons that Chile did arisefrom all that they went through is through
it and even Argentina is they learnthe power of community and being able to
talk to one another. In countrieslike that, we weren't allowed to talk

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to one another. You get shot, your family would get killed if you
were talking about what was going on. But we have that freedom right now.
We might not in the future.Yeah, I think that's an important
point, Claudia. I think thatthere are a lot of people that are
worried about the trend line that we'reseeing around the government using technology increasingly to

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inflict what would be its full deployment, potentially a communist or technocracy type of
kind of organization of society, right, And that is the mode in terms
to describe it as a technocracy,not a democracy, not a republic,

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but an organization and management of apopulation utilizing technology, not unlike what we
see in China today. I mean, that's the example that I think that
many people are looking to to thinkthat that's how we're going to be able
to fully enforce all of the lawsthat we have. But giving government that

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level of granularity of control, it'snot something that they've had up till now
because the technology wasn't good enough tobe able to get that granular and to
have that level of control. Andif we're shifting more and more over to
doing everything with electricity, that basicallyleaves us vulnerable, I guess, to

(36:52):
those type of takedowns, right,if we're fully dependent on electricity for everything,
and I've been moving that direction myselfwith electric car and solar panels,
on my roof and those kind ofthings. I do recognize that it is
a vulnerability versus me having an oiltank that's full of oil. But what

(37:14):
a lot of people don't realize isthat oftentimes it takes electricity to even utilize
an oil tank. So's it's notalways because I mean, you think about
a furnace. A furnace has afan, right, that fan utilizes electricity.
So just because you're utilizing propane,or just because you're utilizing fuel oil

(37:36):
to heat your home doesn't doesn't takeaway your vulnerability from a power outage.
Well, I'm happy to hear BarbTomlin just got her stream on her computer
back. Electricity is working. That'sgood. You know, she can feel
like a full, first class memberof the community now. It really is,

(37:58):
though, I mean, like forget, I just remember, like forgetting
to take my phone to work,my mobile phone to work one day,
and that that was like ten hoursof hell. Because even though in the
beginning of my working life, wedidn't have mobile phones, and you would
just leave your house in the morningand you know, you'd get home and

(38:20):
you'd listen to your messages or whatever. But once you're used to having a
phone to be able to connect atany time and check and check in and
you know, check Twitter during abreak and whatever. You know, it's
it's it's really really difficult to bedisconnected in any way, even if it's

(38:42):
you know, disconnected from your computerand you just have your phone. You
know, you got those files onyour computer. You've got that, you
know, So it's there's a lifegoing there's so much going on there.
But I agree with Rob and thetrend lines part of it. Yes,
it's probably overblown. It's definitely overblownto say Trudeau's a communist, but it's

(39:07):
not overblown to be concerned that heshut down the access to banking for people
who protested often on behalf of otherpeople who they felt that there was medical
overreach. And so that's a levelthat we weren't able to necessarily do very

(39:30):
efficiently years ago, where they willwent to local banks or kept money under
the mattresses or whatever. You cantravel coming back into Canada if you didn't
ClearLight these specific requirements. And nowwe're finding out that that whole system was
flowed and all his money went intoit and it was just a big rigmarole.

(39:53):
Yeah, I mean, nobody was. You're shutting down people's accesses to
their basic needs and their rights beforethey're before they're convicted of anything, because
you don't like what they had tosay, or the way they protested,
or what have you. And evenif they were convicted, if that was

(40:14):
money in their accounts that they obtainedlegally, other than being fined as a
part of the penalty. This isa type of overreach in which, you
know technocracy, where the you know, the tech and government leaders can really
pick the winners and losers in society. Exactly. I mean, look at
Argentina. Those people weren't doing anythingwrong. It was just a black swan

(40:39):
there three times like your your countrycan't figure out how to run its finances,
so they go bankrupt, I mean, while the people suffer. Look
at the US thirty four trillion indebt right right exactly. Hey, I'm
looking at comments here, very amazing. You guys really got it going on.

(41:00):
You love this topic. Yeah,and just the the interest payment on
that debt is the largest line itemin the US budget. Now, it's
righting to think if we're ever goingto get out of this or not.
I'm going to put this question outto you guys and to the audience,

(41:22):
So, how many of us awould build a bunker if we had the
dollars? Think about it for aminute, how many of us would well?
And why I don't. We shouldprobably talk about what what a bunker
is and what the scope of atypical bunker. I was reading an article

(41:45):
about it earlier. And you canhave a bunker if you want on your
property for as low as twenty onethousand dollars if you want so, But
is that just like a hole inthe ground with you know, a bed
and I don't know, I don'tknow, right, And how long are

(42:07):
you really going to be able tolive in that type of a bunker?
Right? And some people just youknow, there's no way to know,
right. You know, it couldbe I hate to be cruel about this,
but it could turn out to bebe digging your own grave. Who
knows. If it's underground, it'sunderground, right, And if something happens

(42:32):
above surface and you can't get outof that bunker, you know, that
could be what it turns into.So, you know, and there's the
other, the other end of thespectrum, like we've seen with these big
billionaires building like mansions underground, right, that have huge resources air ventilation and
filtration and and backup power, andhuge fuel tanks and helicopter launchpads right right

(43:01):
for that private jet, you know. But really, I think if you
want to have a really useful bunker, I think you're going to have to
spend a couple hundred thousand dollars tohave all the infrastructure that you need to
actually be able to live down thereand supply it with supplies, you know,
and water and fuel and all thethings that you need to be able

(43:22):
to live down there for let's saya couple of months. I'm reading some
comments here. Wow, there's someBarb says she knows how to build stock
and survive in a bunker because she'sin New Mexico during the sixties when having
a bunker was a big deal.Really, you know, Comic Crusaders and
n Y Girl'll both say NYC Ir L. Sorry I was reading it.

(43:46):
I put a g in there withmy poor eyesight. It's NYC I
r L in real life. Ithink. Uh. Anyway, agrees,
no bunker for me, right,Barb said, there properties here in Albuquerque
that have had bunkers, that havehad bunkers in them today. Yeah,

(44:07):
I mean, but it's not onlythe expense of building the bunker. Then
there's are you're gonna have security,Will that security remain loyal to you?
Are they're gonna be happy being Yeah, we're in anarchy. We're in a
world where there's no more gut statepower. And you down there in your

(44:30):
bunker, mister Zuckerberger, whoever itis, right, you've got your your
billions hidden away, and you've gotyou've got all the luxuries of the world.
There's security staff for for twenty dollarsan hour is gonna be thrilled to
sit there holding guns just in case, or they want to partake in the

(44:50):
in the good life that you've setup for yourself and your family under underground.
So there's all these like the worstof human nation would come out in
the situation when all the rules goaway and you know, survival is in
doubt. I'm just not sure thatthere's a safe and affordable way most people

(45:14):
could do this. I mean,maybe maybe if you only had your family
and relied on extended family and stufflike that. Even families may turn against
each other stuck in a bunker witheach other for how long with you know,
limited resources, And I don't know. I'd like to paint a pleasant

(45:35):
scenario of this, but I don'tknow that. I think being the first
one to be hit by the missileis probably you know, let it go
close to me, knock me out. I'm gone, and other people could
or maybe I'll join common Crusaders andjust stay above ground and find it out.

(46:00):
Go yeah, or you know,now with with all the space stuff
going on and the space station andthe trips up there, you go,
Okay, if the bunkers are notgoing to be enough for some people,
they might have a bunker in space. I like christ cast, Is this

(46:22):
a bunker cast? That it kindof is. We should be live from
a bunker. We should like doanother show on this live from a bunker.
Somebody with a bunker to give usa tour. Maybe when we're all
together for some events. Well,that's that's another thing. You're going to

(46:43):
be the bunker his WiFi, right, and Congress, come on in my
bunker. Hey, everybody at aparty, you come to my bunker and
we'll we'll also the night away.Right. Oh my wow? So what

(47:04):
would you take Let's say, let'ssay this was all feasible, right,
you had your small bunker, itwas it was all set up so you
could survive for months, but youhave limited room. What would you take,
like, what would you make surewas in your bunker? Well?
Basic basic survival, right, Imean, I mean that's you know,

(47:30):
food, water, medical supplies,all the things that a lot of podcasts
out there are are promoting that I'mtrying to sell right now. I don't
know if you've seen that. I'msure you have us that a lot of
the big podcasters are talking about,you know, getting survival food and getting

(47:52):
medical supplies and building a generator onyour property and stuff like that as a
as a countermeasure to an attack.So it's a common thing out there now.
People are talking about even costcos.I've seen online that certain costcos around
the country are actually selling these typeof packets right that that you can walk

(48:16):
out, you know, with likea bucket with the you know, two
weeks of food in there. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
like how Alex thinks, he's likehe's going to take a zoom P four
recorder audio interface, He's going tokeep podcasting from the bunkers. I'll tell
you what three will keep working.That'll that'll survive a nuclear attack. I

(48:38):
think so well built. I'll takethat with me anyway, maybe in our
maybe electric voice already fifty that Ican fight the fight off the intruder.
You might have posted this already,but in I just caught my eye on
YouTube and y C I. RAl says toilet Zone had an episode where

(49:00):
the neighbors attacked one guy in theneighborhood who had a bunker. Okay,
that brings up a whole other thing. If you have a bunker, some
of your neighbors might not like you, some of your family might not like
you, some of your friends mightnot like you. If you don't have
a bunker, then you're in theclub or you're you're in the club,

(49:21):
or you're out the club. Well, if your bunker is stock full of
food, and the neighbors didn't startthe crow, and sure that's right,
guess where they're going. They're goingto your bunker too and going to break
down your door, get your well, you know what was funny. And
one of the articles that Claudie hadposted into our chat, I'm reading the

(49:43):
comments and some I say he's beenbuilding a bunker or whatever, and all
the neighbors keep telling looking at himand saying that he's crazy and like,
you know what kind of looney extremistsare you? And whatever? And then
at the same time they ask,if anything happens, you'll you'll take us
in your bunker, right right?He goes, no, No, I'm

(50:07):
going to lock the door for meand my family. You don't get to
make fun of me. It's aloon for for thirty years and as But
anyway, since you built it,yeah, I had the forethought of doing
this. I shouldn't have to,you know, help everybody with us,
right, yeah? Right, okay, So then I'm gonna throw this monkey

(50:29):
ranch in. Okay. So whyis Zuckerberg then building these brain chip implant
things and he's totally anti AI?And why is he doing that? Now?
Zuckerberg? Elon? Did I say? Who did I? Elon?
Elon? Why is Elon doing thatwith those those things are anti AI?

(50:53):
I think he's scared of uncontrolled AI. That's right, you know, you
got it right. So why wouldhe be building this other technology to which
he's already started. He's got likeprivate surgery rooms where that he's already started
this process oh, putting the brainin plants. Yeah, so are these

(51:13):
going to work better in bunkers orin space? Well, if you think
about him him building the the starlinksystem, right, that will basically canvass
the entire globe of five G signal. Right, and and increasingly we'll be

(51:35):
able to pick up or have cellphone coverage that would be equivalent to a
satellite phone. Right, is theidea behind this. You know that kind
of capability also works well with hisrobots too, because his robots are going
to be Wi Fi connected as well, or some sort of a data connection

(51:55):
of some sort. It could bethe same kind of data connection that like
our mobile phone carriers use, right, which isn't really Wi Fi, but
it is adio, a high energyradio frequency that delivers data two way data
connections, right. Yeah, Well, and this is it, Like my

(52:16):
thinking is okay, it's implanted.That means we can control our cell phones
with it, our laptops with it, we can go on the Internet with
it, we can center our carsto do whatever with it. In the
event that there's a black spawn eventand we're in our bunkers and we have
no access to anything, right fromour brains right from our brain, that

(52:40):
device and our brains, and ofcourse there's no negative way that anybody could
use that device to gets that's toreprogram us well. And you wonder about
that. You wonder like, okay, if that thing's in there, is
there some kind of chip also inthere where all of a sudden, if
there was a one world government,that they could all send commands to us.

(53:07):
Yeah, I mean, this isvery interesting comment by ny C I
r L. I feel that Elonis not afraid of AI. I think
he's just pulling up the ladder behindhim. I hadn't thought of it that
way, but that's interesting common crusaders. As I respect Elon for his fight
for free speech for US and Irelandand everywhere exes. But this new tech

(53:32):
is insane. The new world daughteris here, Yeah, I mean that's
there were bunkers through the wars andall that. We just know that they
would go in there and they'd gohiding from bombs. They just go hiding
and hiding. But now with thenew tech, and this is where I
was circling back around as I wasdigging into this a little bit, is

(53:54):
how is all our new tech nowgoing to be affecting these bunkers and and
yeah, well I think the argumentis that there isn't any tech around at
that point, right, But that'shard to think as well. I mean,

(54:14):
if you think about kind of thisinfrastructure going up into space, right,
that also makes it possible for communicationsto continue here on the ground if
there's devices that are protected from beingable to be attacked. You know,
let's say with an EMM type ofan attack, that we could still connect

(54:38):
with our mobile phones because the satellitesare up in orbit, not on the
ground. So if there's any kindof a EMP attack that impacts ground based
things, that there may be away of maintaining some infrastructure around that.
I think there's just so many,I guess, complicating issues around this whole

(54:58):
topic that involve new tech. Wherewe're going advanced technology. You know,
there's a lot of rumors that there'stechnology out there that exists with these big
military contractors that will make us allenergy independent, you know, or you
know, how these these rumors aboutthe propulsion technology that these UFOs or UAPs

(55:23):
have may actually be technology that arepart of our military industrial complex that we
picked up or back learned from capturedspacecraft or whatever. There's a lot of
talk about that that I hear onlinewhether or not it's true. I have
no evidence of it that they actuallyhave that. I know that Tesla the

(55:46):
the not Tesla the company, butthe original Tesla created a bunch of technology,
like back in the thirties and fortiesand things like that that that have
been shown to generate electricity out ofour environment. Right is able to extract
and generate electricity out of our environmentand our energy fields that exist in our

(56:09):
world today. That is technology thatisn't profitable for certain people that want to
sell us energy. So you know, so you have to wonder about these
kind of things too. There's justa lot of I guess, a lot
of speculation right now, a lotof conjecture, a lot of people with

(56:30):
wishful thinking, a lot of peopleplaying with technology now as we kind of
move into a new technological era,it's almost like another industrial revolution that's happening
right now, and a lot ofpeople don't know where it's going to wind
up. Yeah, it's I mean, it's interesting times, Oh, definitely,

(56:54):
it's the most interesting times you know, we could possibly live in.
But it's also sometimes boring. Timesmight be you know, boring, yeah,
and just normal, you know,but you know what, but it's
also human history. It's war,and it's disasters, and it's it's changed.

(57:15):
And I'm sure whenever we would beliving, I mean people who lived
through the Cold War, people wholived through World War one, World War
two, the Great Depression, allthese things. You know, we're sometimes
the issues we're facing with technology andso forth. At least yet haven't haven't

(57:38):
been as bad. I think something'sinteresting that Barb said. You know,
she said, living through you know, bomb shelters. I think she said,
oh, if you live through theatom bomb scare here in New Mexico,
you will learn that neighborhoods were taughtabout bunkers and the importance of community
and relationship to having bunkers in theirYeah. That kind of brings me back

(58:01):
to kindergarten because for I must havebeen the last class in America that had
to do this. But I rememberfirst grade, I think I remember right.
Yeah, in case the nuclear weaponwas coming in, we had two
things to do in an air raiddrill. One was get under the desk

(58:22):
and the other was like go againstthe wall and put your hands on your
head or something, which I thinkis what's still considered in the military the
perfect defense for any kind of nuclearOh right, right, Rob was the
kid in the class that just lookedat the teacher and went, you know,

(58:44):
it's so weird to have had thatone year and then they stopped doing
it, Like I didn't do thatall through school one year. Well,
you know, as they as theycome up with new tax at first it
seems like what are they thinking,you know what? But now as we

(59:07):
kind of delve into this topic alittle more, you start to kind of
see like they're looking at a biggerpicture here, they're looking underground, they're
looking up above us, and soyou know, the news tech it actually
isn't that far off with some ofsome of the things that are being developed.

(59:27):
Yeah, comic Crusader says, wow, I never did that in NYC
schools. Heck did you sort oflike fend for yourselves school? Yeah?
Probably nuclear attack was the last thingyou are afraid. So if you think
back to the earlier years, alot of the subway systems, let's say

(59:52):
in London or in New York,we were considered to be bomb shelters.
Yes, so if you have undergroundtransportation. Those could be used as underground
bunkers, right exactly. I havea friend who's an architect, and he's
told me that he increasingly has peopleclients that want him to design homes with

(01:00:19):
the solar panels. Now, mydad too is a builder and architect,
and he puts solar panels on ourown I have them, yeah yeah,
yeah, way back, way back. And but also they're asking for these
underground Barton curves, yeah, intheir own homes. So they're not going
out and buying an island or propertysomewhere else. They're just It kind of

(01:00:43):
kind of reminds me probably like inKansas where you know the Wizard of Oz,
you know, and the storm characterand they go down to the to
the bunker. Yeah, well youjust jackhammer a floor in your your basement
and dig it out, right,Yeah. So anyways to bring it back
like this could be this could belike a lot of doom and gloom,

(01:01:06):
and I don't want to leave peoplelike that, Like, how can we
how can we prepare? How canwe you know, there's various ways you
can go to Costco, get thatbig pack, you know, the survival
kit whatever, But how do weprepare as as creatives, as entrepreneurs.
How do we create prepare our businesses? How do we uh keep building with

(01:01:27):
a forward looking uh you know kindof kind of goals. Well, my
business is a taxia host. Thisover no electricity, no rady, no
no live streaming. I'm gonna haveto find something else to do. Well,

(01:01:49):
I'm going to pull this up.And the reason I'm pulling it up
is because there is pages and pagesand pages of amazing people, creatives,
entrepreneurs. This is community, Thisis people building businesses that are out of
the box. And also, youknow, my hat goes off to Ross
for building community and including people.So, you know, kind of going

(01:02:15):
back to this, like, soit's not all doom and gloom. I
mean the whole talk about bunkers andspace attacks and all that that can be
overwhelming. Yeah yeah, I meanI've for the most part tried none to
think about it up. Yeah,getting ready for the show is like,
wow, this is a little morestressful than talking about, uh the latest

(01:02:37):
with the video podcasts and rsss.That's a little lighter. Yeah. Yeah.
You know what's interesting is neither ofus are I would consider to be
experts on this kind of topic.So it's a lot of what we're talking
about me may reflect the spectrum ofhow normal people think about this stuff too,

(01:03:01):
and and how we all kind ofprocess this information, which which is
challenging for all of us. It'snot a this is not an easy topic
for us purely from the danger ofthat. It just creates a lot of
stress inside of us, and that'salso damaging to our the psychology of our

(01:03:24):
lives and how we live our livesevery day. To be worried about these
kind of things is not exactly constructiveto our society. I mean, if
we're all living in a certain kindof base level of fear of uncertainty about
what the future looks like, itkind of gets in the way of productivity.

(01:03:45):
It gets in the way of buildingbonds with other people and causes people
to think more about themselves instead ofthinking about others. And I think that's
the danger of what we're seeing happenin the world right now. Patricia Summer
says, expect change and be flexible. Nice. Well, yeah, expect

(01:04:10):
change kind of like when you builda business plan. You can't build a
business plan without putting your obstacles andchallenges so things don't always work out the
way you would hoped, you know, and and have a plan B so
you know, if there's some changecoming, how you get aren't on a
dime. Sometimes it's going to bevery quick. And it's increasingly becoming challenging

(01:04:32):
to be able to predict outcomes tojust about everything in our lives. And
that's that's very stressful. It's nothow it used to be. I mean,
I grew up in an era thatdidn't have the Internet and didn't have
a lot of technology, and certainlylife wasn't like that. There were other
challenges that were involved at that time, but certainly not at the level that

(01:04:58):
we are psychologically forced to endure today. This instant communications, global global communications
just is very stressful and a lotof people, I think are starting to
pull back and disconnect increasingly with thisbarrage of uncertainty and fear and people just

(01:05:19):
can't handle it anymore. And that'salso dangerous too, because then you start
to create a civilization that's uninformed aboutwhat's happening in the world exactly. And
Carlos Phoenix says, so why arewe talking about you? Okay, Carlos,
I'm just going to say this toyou is what Patricia said. By

(01:05:41):
the way, great question, Carlos. Expect change can be flexible. Like
we said, even in a businessbuild, develop hand business plan. What
are you going to be your obstaclesand challenges. So that's not doom,
that's that's more. Let's be awareof what's happening. You know, if
we weren't a where what you knowElon was doing with Tesla, Rob would

(01:06:01):
not have a Tesla vehicle that heloves so much that drives him around everywhere
and talks to him and it startsham, wine and cheese and right,
oh, I dug all that now. I think it's just even brushes my
teeth too, Claudia so brushes.It's a robot, you know. I
mean, it's okay, It drivesitself, it doesn't turn off, it's

(01:06:27):
always on. It's always there forme. Was it your Valentine's date yesterday?
Yes? It was out for avery romantic drive together, all your
favorite romantic songs on the road.Oh, wonderful, hilarious. So Tessie
is what I call her? Right? Yeah? Thanks. Part of this

(01:06:51):
show is just bringing bringing to lightsome things that are being developed in tech.
And some things that maybe are happeningin recent news, because it's good
to be informed. I like whatCommon Crusaders is here. I'm definitely happy
not to not have had this techin my youth. My life would have

(01:07:15):
been very different. I agree withthat. I think I can't imagine not
being able to like disconnect from schooland have like whatever conversations, drama,
nonsense, obligations, competitions just goingon. Like you left school, you

(01:07:36):
could just hang out with your friends. You could do what you wanted to
do, you know, sort offree from from all the other influences and
connections and whatever. And I mean, we're not used to being connected to
people twenty four to seven around theworld. I mean even like I think

(01:07:58):
parents are too connected to kids.Kids are too connected to their Like they
don't have the time where they likego wander off with other kids in the
neighborhood and figure out how to playsome game or do something or cause some
trouble or something like that, andthen you know, figure it out and
come back home and you know,to the safety of home. Instead,

(01:08:18):
it's the sort of you're always halfin the world, right, and too
much of that half in the worldis through your phone, right, and
this is where that health piece comesin, you know, and peeling away
and saying with this whole bunker talk, I mean, it's good for us
to be aware of stuff. Ithink we're going to be seeing more and

(01:08:39):
more of this in the news inthe coming years, especially even with the
space stuff. But it is soimportant again to get back to our humanity
and what's healthy for us and peelingaway and limiting certain amounts wants to do

(01:09:00):
with some things that might instill fear. Yeah, I mean, can you
imagine being like fourteen years old orsomething and you're worrying about like did I
didn't get any likes on an Instagrampost or something like that? Like could
anything be less important in the realworld? And yet you know, it
may be important to some degree,you know, when you're doing it for

(01:09:23):
your business or whatever, but forkids, just you know, like shouldn't
they be like exploring who they areas people and like how to socialize and
all that stuff, And instead it'slike, how do I do better than
my friends on my Instagram? Orhow do I show everybody how cool I
am on my Instagram? Which isyou know, basically teaching kids to put

(01:09:45):
on an act do then and thenvaluate their self worth based on a popularity
contest online. I mean, it'sjust it's insane. And then we've got
the whole other challenge where you know, some females have been attacked with people
creating AI images of them inappropriate onesand as even as a youngster, like

(01:10:10):
how do you deal with that?And then they're circulated, so you know
that kind of thing, the bullyingand all that. So that's not so
important to bring it back home,to bring it back to humanity because this
younger generation. I mean, I'mnot a parent, but I have a
lot of young people in my lifeand the things they go through, and
you know, it can get veryvery discouraging, devastating because the reality is

(01:10:39):
most parents didn't know all this wasgoing to be happening so quick. They
didn't have the manual, Their parentsdidn't teach them how to deal with cyber
bullying and stuff like that. SoBrigetti, lives in South Africa, says,
we've been living in uncertainty for yearsnow, first the water crisis,
now an energy crisis. We havethree two hour outages on the daily and

(01:11:01):
sometimes four hour outages. It doesadd a layer of stress because planning is
challenging. But on the positive side, we have no threat that makes us
want to even consider bunkers. Yes, no threat that they're maybe aware of.
Right, it's hard to say,right, you know. I mean

(01:11:26):
that's how all this has affected me, right, is that we're always thinking
that it's possible, Right, Imean, I went through what happened with
I wasn't there, but I wentthrough nine to eleven, and we've all
gone through COVID, and we've allexperienced those kind of global crisises of sorts.

(01:11:49):
You know, there's nothing to thinkthat that isn't going to happen again
at some point. Why wouldn't it. It's always happened some some war,
some global war, some attack onus or something like that. Now that's
never happened here in the US wherewe've been attacked necessarily, like on a

(01:12:12):
nation level, I mean short ofnine to eleven, right, probably to
have have hackers attack or infrastructure ona global basis, or not global,
but a nationwide basis all at once. That has never happened. Before we're
put out a list of sites thatthe that shouldn't be attacked. There don't

(01:12:33):
attack this. Don't attack that.These sixteen sites are off limits, right
right, don'tays you want to knowhow to hurt us, it would be
to it. We're not allowing that. We're asking you nicely. Otherwise they're
going to send the strongly worded lettersto you. You can just ask your
car like where's the next attacks?And just move me somewhere else, right

(01:12:57):
right. I think it's a greatquestion for chain GPT, for I think,
so cha right, can we dothat? Can we ask chat gpt
about bunkers? And yeah, asksI have great conversations with chat cheapt.
Can we pull it up? Actually, we could ask the audience if they

(01:13:19):
have a question for chat GPT,though I've seen a lot of I query
a lot with chat GPT, tryingto challenge it sometimes in its assumptions and
what it will do. If youchallenge it enough, it will change its

(01:13:43):
answers. So it's its instincts rightat the beginning, is to tell you
something different than it would if yousay, well, that's not really correct.
Well, I just asked chat GPT, do I need to build a
bunker? Oh? You did?Okay? The answer, the first paragraph
answer is the need to build abunker depends on various factors, including your
personal concerns, the specific threats youaim to protect against, and your geographical

(01:14:09):
location. Here are some considerations personalconcerns. People build bunkers for a variety
of reasons, such as fear ofnatural disasters, war, civil unrest,
or desire for a secure place incase of emergencies. Assessing your concerns can
help determine if a bunker is areasonable solution, and then it goes down
specific threats, geographical locations, localregulations and costs, alternative safety measures,

(01:14:34):
community resources. Alternative safety measures soundsinteresting? What are other options besides building
a bunker? In many cases,there are alternatives or additional safety measures that
can be taken without building a bunker. These might include emergency preparedness plans,
building safe rooms within your home,or simply having a well thought out evacuation

(01:14:58):
plan. Community resources. Sometimes communityor public shelters can offer protection during emergencies,
reducing the need for individual bunkers.If you're seriously considered considering building a
bunker, it's advisable to consult withprofessionals and disaster preparedness and construction as well
as local authorities to ensure that anyaction you take is informed, legal and

(01:15:19):
as safe as possible. That's whatthat share. Yeah, I did a
query to check. Okay, youcan see too, and it's uh,
it's coming back with a bunch ofinforts. You want me to share this?
Sure if you want to, Okay, create a to me course on

(01:15:42):
bunker, she says, this isjust the time to create a you to
meet course on bunker survival in theNew century, go burb Yeah, okay,
Yeah, So I asked it,I said, uh, does one
need to build a home bunker?And how big should it be to survive
for a month for three people?And so its answer came back just on

(01:16:05):
the size and space requirements. Aminimum of ten square feet are so per
person. A space of at leastthree hundred to five hundred square feet in
total might be considered a starting point, with adjustments based on specific needs and

(01:16:27):
desired comfort levels. And then ittalks about ventilation. Proper ventilation is critical
in a bunker to ensure a supplyof fresh air to prevent a build up
of carbon dioxide or harmful gases.Three hundred to five hundred square feet you're
talking one point five million in newYork City, right, yeah, right,

(01:16:50):
and says for a water supply onegallon of water per day per person,
so that means that you would needto have at least ninety gallon water
tank two which is a that's agood sized water tank, and more if
you want. And then food storiesnon perishable food that would require minimal preparation

(01:17:15):
at best for bunker storage. Itsays here it doesn't really give a quantity
of food, but which is surprising, it gave a quantity of everything else.
And then waste management often overlooked aspectsof bunker design is how to manage
waste right, sewage system, compostingtoilets, chemical toilets are options to consider.

(01:17:43):
And then the next one is powerand heating. So depending on your
location of the season, heating mightbe necessary, plus additional lighting, cooking,
possibility of powering communication devices, anda ventilation system like was mentioned before.
Renewable energy sources like solar panels,battery storage generators should be considered or

(01:18:04):
it can be considered, and afuel storage so and emergency medical supplies you
know, a well stocked first aidkit right from you know. A bunch
of different advertisers on podcasts these days, and then communications, having a way
to communicate to the outside world iscrucial to know what's happening above ground,

(01:18:30):
I guess. And security, Abunker needs to have a reasonable amount of
security to protect against unauthorized entry.You don't that was your point wrong.
There's a lot of work to bedone. That sounds the question is I
guess, depending on how much moneyand time you have left, how much
of it do you want to spendon this versus making the most out of

(01:18:54):
every day that you have and youknow what your money can do positively to
enhance your life rather than spending itall. Like if you have Zuckerberg money,
then I guess it makes like ElonMusk whatever. Then explore another planet,
dig a hole, you know,twenty thousand feet under the ground.
Whatever you know. I guess youhave so much that like it doesn't impact

(01:19:17):
you and other people to do todo it. But I can't imagine wasting
the rest of my life like keepingthe upkeep and the time and everything.
But Carlos says he's going to behaving a bunker master clause and how to
market it with SEO and social mediastrategies. When you are in a bunker
with AI. Well, you're notgonna you're not gonna have live streaming in

(01:19:41):
the course, You're gonna rely onjust print and dext. There you go
go, Carlos, I see there, we got the entrepreneurial juices going create
an ideal bunker. Oh my okay, so and don't say archie, there
you go right there you go.Yeah, holy moldly, look at those

(01:20:03):
tanks at the bottom one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven, eight, nine, ten, compartments right, five floors?
Five floors? Are those solar panelsat the top? Yeah, looks like
how did you get the image?How did you get it? To give
you an image? I asked chetGPT to create an image of an ideal

(01:20:30):
bunker, and this is this isthis is what it came back with.
Wow, I saw a bunker whenI was doing all these research for today.
I saw this bunker where on theceiling they had led screens with sky
images, so it looked like youhad like, yeah, like a sky

(01:20:53):
you're outside. Yeah, it's quitesomething. That is quite a quite a
master bedroom there you see that offright in the middle. There is that
a swimming pool right there? Orwhat is that on the left and then
all those other other bedrooms. There'sone up above jacuzzie or something that's like

(01:21:14):
a looks like a three four bedroommaybe bunker looks like maybe he having then
a bunch of tanks and the belowpart and then it looks like a kind
of like an area, a communalarea of sorts, and maybe a kitchen.

(01:21:35):
Yeah, it's approach ones by agroup who is They told me they
were buying property like out East Coast, and I was like okay, And
then I said they were building allthese shelters and there was only certain people
invited to be part of this wholething. And I was like, what,

(01:22:01):
that's community at a whole other level, baby, I mean what they're
going to build your bunkers and haveeverybody living together down there. Yikes,
like a city. Wow, soit's going to create another bunker option here
in a second that we can see, so you can see what only for

(01:22:24):
Becca we're here, Yeah, Imean, girlfriend would have something to say
about this. I'm sure. Okay, this one is similar. Oh wow,
look at that looks more integrated likethe other one looked like I had
barriers between the rooms or something.Yeah, does that one have like a
circular elevator or something is out thator no, what is that? Or

(01:22:48):
is that part of the ventilation.It's probably it's probably part of the ventilation
type in a bunker. That's anice sofa there on the first like first
floor, left bunker for ross Brand. What would ross Brand want in his
bunker? Yeah, and tell it, tell it it needs tech. Actually,

(01:23:12):
I think I like this one betterthan the other one. You do.
It's more open, it's more open. It doesn't have the compartments like
the other one did. Yeah,if if I had my pick of bunkers,
I would go with this one overthere, guys need the introvert escape
room though, the introvert The wholething is an introvert escape project, right,
totally, totally the timeout room,right, the get away from me,

(01:23:40):
the hand you extroverts get away fromme. But mind you too,
you know we we could have likea special room for for tinders. Uh
ross Brand A I in there.Wow, you you can invite you know,

(01:24:00):
some guests to you with you toyour bunker. Oh. If I
had a bunker like this, I'dbe very popular, like come on again
or whatever. Yeah, I askedit to create a smaller version could be
the one bunker only the people whogot their predictions in one hundred and thirteen

(01:24:24):
people. Everybody else should have gottenthem. Min. Okay, here's a
smaller version. But that that doesn'tlook like a good life I compared to
that. Wow, that not thatsmall though. It's just not it doesn't
look fancy like the nice hardwood floor. Oh, it's it's definitely much smaller

(01:24:47):
because if you look at the sizeof the bedrooms, they're barely just enough
room to have a bed, right, I'm just saying, like even that's
big though, and it's like it'sthree floor Like I don't know, it's
crazy, is here? N ysee I or else says me, my,
I should get a bunker. That'sright, we're selling bunkers today.

(01:25:15):
Tell me about you guys. ButI want a like a fire station poll
that I can you can slide rightdown to the first floor, right,
you get that refrigerator before anybody else, right, just to beat them so
I don't have to go down thosethose little stair things. Those later be
living out his Batman dreams. Onething that is missing here is is being

(01:25:42):
able to get around to each ofthose compartments. I don't see a way
of doing that. You either everybody'sin there on the little shell and that's
it, right, and once youget in there, you can't get out.
You're basically trapped. So anyway,I think we've Wow. Basically,
Chris Rose says Chris rosetties is whenI was a kid during the Cuban missile

(01:26:04):
crisis, the neighbors turned the septictank into a front yard bunker. Wow,
nice speak. That's pretty girls.You do what you gotta do to
survive. I guess the tank.Yeah, okay, Well you're looking for

(01:26:26):
a luxurious uh luxurious but small huge, huge, huge those are something.
There was a picture of U Zuckerberg'sproposed Yeah, let's have a look at
that. So I don't know whowas all working on that thing, but

(01:26:48):
don't find out what it's like notto get notifications either. Well, I
think what's being created here is ais a Mark Zuckerberg or even uh what
was it? What's his name?From Amazon Visus? Yeah, I knew
Edith bunker. Oh here we go, there we go, there we go,

(01:27:09):
there we go. Oh wow,wow, it even has a runway
on the surface. And see that. It's like that's when the rock comes
to visit. Make it easier forthe military to get away after they bombed
your Oh is that a swimming poolat the very top up there? Looks

(01:27:30):
like it? Wow? That ishuge. I guess it gave me what
I was looking for. Wow.Can you zoom in on it at all?
Yeah? I could probably get ina little closer. Let's see,
no ping pong table, no basketballcourt. I mean, you got a
lot of space there. Let's makethis thing fun. I've probably got that

(01:27:55):
one. Become bunker designers, Iknow it. Everybody she'd be like,
how do we turn this into abusiness? Get a citation? I don't
know what that is. I can'tseem to get rid of that. So
what if you write click it andopen it up in another tab, Christmas,
and then you click it again andyou blow it up? It might

(01:28:15):
not I don't know, you'll probablyit'll probably do the same thing. It
doesn't really seem like it. Ihope we better start working harder on our
relationships. You never know who youmake the care a bunker would right,
Hey, you give you audio,you can feed it audio and it will

(01:28:40):
transcribe it. Now. Christmas alreadysaid on you and Edith bunker. I
wanted to hear Edith Bunker sing.You know, you know how she sings
on the show. Okay, there'sa there's a person down here. There's
a person in this that Zucker sohere. Oh yeah yeah, lots of

(01:29:04):
lots of really long couches in heretoo. Okay, is that he's sitting
there, he's sitting there in bunker. I know exactly what he's thinking.
If they put a link to YouTube, I'm gonna stifle combining Archie Bunker.
I'm gonna have his hair reach becausethey put a link to YouTube in there.

(01:29:30):
This one even has looks like alibrary. Do you see that with
all the books behind? Nice tokeep us all sane. Yeah, we
won't be able to do much onour phones. At least we'll have books
to read. So what is thisa nursery or something? Well, no,
it's here. Well you got thatmany rooms. Somebody's having lots and

(01:29:51):
lots of chairs. Okay, listen, listen for a second. That's a
serious swimming pool and bunker. Allright, all right, all right,

(01:30:27):
sorry, I just I got that. I just had to brace you with
that song. Now would Wi Fiwork in a bunker? Yeah? Well
you kind of wonder, right,That's why I was saying, you know,
Elon is creating all this other tack. You wonder what why? So

(01:30:48):
okay, so you could set upyour own WiFi, Like, how would
how would wi fi work if likethe grid was out or it wouldn't Well,
it would have to probably reach thesatellites and stuff. Yeah, I'd
have to go up to the satellite. That wouldn't be an easy belt.
Right, that's where your brain person, just buy yourself, can I How

(01:31:11):
hard? Would that be? Prettyhard? Right? So I just did
a mm hmm, show me abunker buster. There it is. Oh
man, you crack me up.Okay, all right, we're getting a
little loopy here. Totally. Yep, that's it. There's your bunker buster.

(01:31:38):
There's your bunker buster. So Ithink the context here, I think
that's the wrong context. Flying awayfrom the bunker. It's exploding, but
it's flying away from the bunker.That that doesn't make any sense. It's
exploring on the wrong side. It'snot actually blowing up the bunker. You're
right. There must be like withthese big tech giants building their bunkers a

(01:32:00):
way to get out, right,I guess there's an emergency. That's flash
right out on the right, rightright, totally right of here. We're
going to the moon. Now we'regoing to our other bunker in the station.
Troy blowing. We got on bunker. He's nerding out on us with

(01:32:29):
the with the bunker GPT right o, man, Oh, can't can't assist
with that. I guess that's tooviolent. Thank you, thank you chat
GPT. Yeah, thank you somuch for sharing so much with us.

(01:32:53):
Yeah, can you can you ask? Can you ask? You can ask
any can you ask Ross Brands?But Valentine's date was it only goes back
til April twenty twenty three years.I don't see its ability to to put

(01:33:15):
audio in here right now. Ithink I thought they had that ability in
here. That he's the sleep number, bed bed numbers default, the six
feet under in a bunker. Barbesaid, this is getting so blab esque.
Yeah, only bring back something blablike right. Well, we needed

(01:33:36):
to laugh, Barb. I meanI was getting pretty heavy there, and
so this is part of our thisis part of our arm mental break cut
have a laugh with us. Maybewe want so you don't have doom and
gloom all day. Besides, Iwant to learn a thing like Edith bok

(01:34:00):
Car so exactly. Guys, weare like way over time here just saying
all right, I'm just getting warmedup. We're just getting warmed up.
Well, thank you everybody for hangingout and laughing along with us. And

(01:34:25):
I mean it started out as aserious discussion and a little depressing at times,
but it was also fun. Andwe're talking about, like Claudia said
earlier, we're talking about the thingsthat are quiet, things that people don't
really say out loud. That's oneof the parts of the show I think
is is interesting because we can't ignoreeverything. We can't ignore people are in

(01:34:53):
the hope of being very polite andnot stepping on any toes. There's too
much that's not being discussed. Andbunkers is something that's happening we like it
or not. Well, I thinkwe just came up with some really good
ideas for what kind of bunker wemight want to all build. Right yeah,

(01:35:13):
hellod are one of those from thatthat picture of the fancy bunker I
want to move in, right than. I would love to have that just
as my my regular house, youknow, just out there that can be
a hermit. Well, Thank youComic Crusaders, thank you NYC, I,

(01:35:39):
R. L. Brigetti, BarbTomlin, Joey Garerty was here earlier,
Chris Stone, Chris Rosetti, everybodywho's been a part of this,
we appreciate it, and we willbe back next week one thirty pm Eastern
on Thursday with another episode of theExtreme Leader Report Panel, and with that

(01:36:01):
we'll say see you next week.Take care of everybody, okay,

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