YouTube Podcasting Updates | Gen Z TikTok Falls in Love with Osama Bin Laden | Panel (Ep26) - StreamLeader Report with Ross Brand

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Hey, gang, Welcome to thestream Leader Report Live Panel. It's episode
twenty six. I'm Ross Brand.My show is The stream Leader Report.
I'm joined by Rebecca Gunter of Businessin the Raw and Hall of Fame podcaster
Rob Greenley. Podcast Tips with RobGreenley is his show. You can catch
it tonight in fact, and Rebeccadid a show earlier today. And the

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great Claudia Santiago can't be with ustoday, but hopefully she will be back
with us next week. And we'vegot a ton of things to talk about
Amazon getting into healthcare that shouldn't scareyou at all. Elon wants to plant
the chip right in your brain andthinks that it's a way to make us

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safe for may I I shouldn't raiseany eyebrows. And of course, over
on TikTok, apparently gen Z hasbecome quite the fans of been Loaden's analysis
of America. So we'll we'll talkabout that that's not frightening at all.
But we'll start with some good news, and that is podcasts are coming via

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RSS. Traditional audio podcasts are comingto YouTube music. Rob, Yeah,
I think that there is a littlebit of kind of misunderstanding about what was
going on here with the YouTube youknow kind of connection to podcasts and RSS
feeds. My understanding is, isit well, in this tool that you're

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seeing here is just a way tolook up all the podcasts that are out
there in the ecosystem and to gettheir RSS feeds. So you could,
you know, submit that RSS feedin the YouTube tools to YouTube music.
But there's kind of like two sidesof this now that it's becoming a little

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bit clearer. Is that if yousubmit your audio RSS feed to YouTube,
to YouTube music specifically, that itwill ingest into YouTube music as a pass
through audio file into just YouTube music. But if you want to publish a

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video episode, you have to gothrough the traditional kind of channels through your
YouTube studio and publish a video andthen you flag that as a video podcast
that will optionally be available as aseparate kind of piece of series of episodes

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in YouTube music. So so YouTubemusic is going to be surfacing a version
of your show that will be audioonly, and that will be a pass
through. But still YouTube music doesn'tnecessarily want programmatic advertising passing through that.

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But currently how it works today isthat if you submit a RSS feed to
YouTube, they're not going to blockit, so they're not going to say
sorry, you have advertising in yourshow. But my understanding is that it
still will violate their terms of conditions, And I don't know what the implications

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of that is if they're going toat some point take your content down.
But for now, if you submityour podcast RSS feed, your audio only
RSS feed directly to YouTube Music,it's going to pass through and be available
on YouTube Music. So I thinkin a lot of ways this is good

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news that there is this kind ofseparation between the video side and the audio
side when it comes to YouTube,and so that audio file that's being ingested
into YouTube Music is not My understandingis it's not being converted into a video
file, which is what we hadall originally thought was happening. So you

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still have the normal pathway through theYouTube studio to get video into the platform.
So you can kind of see howthere's kind of two pathways, one
for video and one for audio.That's that's functioning a little bit differently.
Now. They still do not supporta video feed with via RSS, which
is an interesting kind of kind ofdecision that they made, and I guess

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I somewhat understand that to some degree. But it's so that tool that we
just showed you there is the pathwayto get RSS feeds that then can be
used to submit to YouTube music.So that's kind of, you know,
kind of a confusing pathway here,but that's that's my understanding and I think

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it's good news. So so whenyou say pass through, just to clarify
for people might not know what thatmeans, it means that your host,
your file stays with your host,correct, and they're not making YouTube's not
YouTube Music isn't making a copy ofyour audio file that they store on their

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their server, Which means you canget stats if your host provides it,
if you have a plan that providesit, you can get stats on listens
on YouTube music. As far asviews go, that would be on the
YouTube side if you have a video. So my first question would be if
you're doing a podcast that you dovideo and you distribute audio through RSS,

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you already have your video in apodcast playlist like we do for this show,
does it make sense to add theaudio RSS to YouTube music as well?
Or do we stick with the ideathat it's already being brought over there,
And why duplicate your efforts. Well, I think that it's really an

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additive type of situation, I think, and I'm somewhat changing my tune here
to some degree. But the videopart of this is completely separate, right,
It's separated from the audio part,which is but they're also combined,
so it's separate from a publishing perspective. But there's certainly nothing wrong with having

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having the video version of your showin YouTube music as well as the audio
version of your show. They're notgoing to necessarily conflict with each other,
and you may get some benefit toyour video side for being in YouTube music,
so so, and then people thatwant to listen to the program just

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via audio that will be potentially havingall of the sponsors and advertisers that you
normally here in the audio side wouldbe available my understanding into YouTube music platform.
So in some ways, just goingdoing both pathways actually starts to make

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more sense. Now. I justwish that the YouTube team had done a
better job of explaining this to thecommunity, because if I didn't know what
they were doing at this level,they didn't do a very good job of
letting everybody know how this really works. Question, ross, do you consider
this show a video show, ordo you consider it a podcast the video

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component to it. I understand thatthe definition is around RSS feed, right,
and the peers have a thing,But like I really struggle with do
I have a video show? Imean, I don't have an RSS feed,
so I guess I don't have apodcast. But if I you know,
if I followed and then extracted theaudio and then fed it to YouTube,

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bodily, how do you know,I don't even know where I'm swimming.
Well, that's yeah, that's that'sreally the crux of the question is
is it really it depends on whatthe production is, how you're producing it.
You know, there's increasing opportunities tosee them as the same. Just
you know, one's a visual experienceand one's an audio experience, and you

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just put them out in the appropriateplatforms that can give your your listeners access
to both. Right. So sothat's a choice. I mean, certain
listeners or viewers prefer viewing, someprefer the audio. So having that choice

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I think gives you the potential ofreaching a potentially larger audience. But it
gets back to what's missing in theaudio that maybe is in the video.
Is the question you have to askyourself. Well, I think if this
were three years ago, two yearsago, maybe even, but certainly back
when you were both sometime between twentyseventeen twenty nineteen, you were both guests

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at different times on my live streamdeals show, I would have said,
come on my live stream Deal's mylive stream show, right, we're going
to it's a live stream show onThursday night and at seven pm Eastern or
whatever. And then it also isdistributed as a podcast. So I looked
at the podcast as the audio versionand the video show as a live stream

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and live stream replay. And atthat time I wasn't particularly going to YouTube,
so there also weren't those distinctions rightnow. If I had a any
kind of client who was going tostart a video show talks show like we're

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doing, they would say to me, I want to do a podcast and
put it on YouTube. Okay,they would call this a podcast. I
watch your podcast on Thursday. That'swhere society is at right now. That's
where the consumer is. That's wherecelebrities are. Every celebrity that's a newsperson

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or a sportsperson, or when theystart a video show on YouTube, that's
some type of talk show. Eitherin a studio or remote like we're doing.
They're calling it a podcast. Now. They may well be distributing it
afterwards as an audio podcast, butclearly their video show on YouTube is where

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they're either doing it live or they'rereleasing it to a large size audience.
So I think the word podcast nowcovers any type of talk show that can
easily be simulcast through repurpose in audioformat. Right, I agree with that.
So if you did a if youdid a video Rebecca like I'm gonna

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give you five tips to break downhow to do a branding statement, and
you did one, two, three, four, five, and you had
b roll coming in a lot oftexts across the screen and you're doing it
was a very visual example. Now, perhaps you could take the audio from
then and make a podcast out ofit, an audio podcast, but one

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would more likely call that okay,on my latest YouTube video, I did,
I did such and such. Right, if Rob's showing you how his
Tesla is able to drive without hishands on the wheel, that's more of
a video. But if Rob issitting here talking to me about how the
tesla works, most people don't knowthe difference between whether that's a podcast,

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a YouTube video show, a livestream, it's them it's all a podcast,
or it's all a talk show ofsome sort. I don't even think
they use the talk show the talkshow language is that. I don't know
if that makes sense or not,but it's kind of where I see things
going. Podcast is what everybody's callingit these days. Some people have been

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calling it this stuff podcast for along time, but now it's totally in
the vernacular of most Americans at leastprobably Canadians as well. Y yeah,
I think there's another layer to thistoo, which is there is such a
thing and Anne Ross, I'm screensharingkind of an example of this. Bring

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that up is is it you candistribute a video version of your of your
show via RSS And this is anexample. This is a show that I've
been doing for like the last twelveyears, and it's as you see at
the top of this image, itsays video edition, right, So instead

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of in the RSS feed having anMP three file, there's an MP four
file. So and then here allall screen share. So in the same
Apple platform there is a a versionof the show that doesn't say video on
it. It's audio only. Sothis is kind of like what I'm saying,

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and I did do a new mediashow yesterday talking about podcasting two point
zero and how we're evolving the RSSstandard to have what's called multiple enclosures in
RSS, which means that you couldhave an audio version and a video version
in the same RSS feed. It'sjust one of the problems is not that

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many of the consumption platforms and thelistening platforms support kind of like an alternative
media type, right, So there'sthere's an there's the potential that a couple
of years from now we could startseeing this integration, like kind of to
some degree what we're beginning to seein YouTube, where an audio version and

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a video version could be surfaced inthe same user experience, right, So
the viewer or the listener has thatchoice right in front of them in that
instance of that show in a particularplatform. And so so that's kind of
a glimpse at what the future is. And in some ways this is really

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a throwback to the past because inthe early days and on, what you're
seeing here is something that's been aroundfor like twelve years, is the ability
to publish a video version of theshow in RSS as long as you know,
along with the audio, So soyou know, on bringing these things
together makes makes a lot of sense. And so I think, you know,

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in what we're seeing in YouTube,at some point, YouTube will do
a better job of bringing these thingstogether too, because it's in their best
interest. They're a video platform andnow they have support for audio. Why
wouldn't they want to bring those twoand give their their users the option to
pick video, but also give themthe option to pick audio. So,

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ross, would you have considered Businessin the Raw a podcast or a show?
I mean I consider a podcast toshow, right, So, but
Business in the Raw it to meis I mean, I think it's a
podcast too because it's a talk show, right, I mean, you could

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do Business in the raw and justrip the audio and it and I could
follow along pretty darn well. Right, yeah, I would say, so
means were just to keep the longform from getting boring. It's it's definitely
more sort of TV style than whatwe're doing here, which fits more easily
into podcasts because essentially this is likea radio show simulcast on TV, where

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yours is like an entertainment slash youknow, documentary show sort of fit into
the podcast online video format, ifthat makes sense. So this stuff is
so overlapping, I don't. Iknow, it's a hot tager sandwich,
I mean right right, if youwant to call it a pot like like

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I say, if people can listento your business and the raw as an
audio podcast, then there's not longgaps between with nothing happening, or there's
not you know, something that youjust lose ninety percent of it. If
it's not an audio, then youknow, then you really do have a
podcast that you can distribute as audio. If you want to call it a

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podcast, you can call it.I mean I would call it more of
a video series I think, youknow, or a show. I mean
that's really it's really a YouTube show, but semantic semanth I mean it's a
podcast too if you can rip theaudio and make it podcast. But since
I haven't, but since I haven'tbeen doing that, would it work if
you did do that? Boy,I don't. I'm too close to the

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project. I would hope. Sobecause it is dialogue based, you know,
an interview or not. But thereare I don't know, it's a
good question. I mean there are. When I went to the podcast meet
up in New York City, withthe New York City Podcasters Group. There

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was a car, a Mercedes therewith Dolby at Most repped from Dolby Kane,
and we all had a chance tosit down in the car and listen.
And the sound was like nothing you'veever heard of out of a podcast.
Right. It sounded like you weresitting in the most high tech movie
theater and sounds coming on different dimensionsfrom different places at you. You could

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use sound it like, I'm notsaying that this is a project for any
of us right now or whatever,but you could theoretically make a audio designed
project that could be very dramatic andusing music and sound and where the different

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voices are coming from to take aTV style show and give it certain pops
of audio that give it dramatic effectwhere you might be using b roll for
that effect on video. As I'mthinking out loud about that experience, it's

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amazing. Now I don't have theslightest idea of how to edit on a
vertical axis, or I honestly didn'tknow there was such a thing. Okay,
forward and back right. The ideaof getting sounds coming in different spatial
locations and stuff is just beyond mycapability, but it's out there and it's

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quite the experience if you listen toit. I'm putting a little note in
the comments. There's an old there'san old podcast called The Heart, which
does that beautifully, had all femaleproducers and does a lot of that layering
and dramatic effect with audio. Soif people are curious what you're talking about,
they can go check out The Heart. All right, very cool.

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Let's move on to our next story, because this is not one that I
had on my bingo card or whateverfor this this year, this week,
and that is bin Laden is trendingon TikTok. And not only is he
trending, but his letter to Americaseems to be extremely popular with at least

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a vocal group of people on TikTok. And yeah, is this headline from
Rolling Stone says Asama bin Laden's letterto America goes viral twenty one years later
on TikTok. The incendiary text wasremoved from the website of The Guardian after
becoming a top trending link. Soif you're not familiar with this, basically,

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Osama bin Laden explains why he's youknow, invites invites America to Islam
and then basically explains what's wrong withAmerica in ways that conservatives might have some
sympathy with, explains what's wrong withAmerica in ways that people on the left
might have some sympathy with, andthen says, the Jews are all behind

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it, and you know, weinvite you to figure out what's going on
and why we're mad at you knowkind of thing. It's it's it's an
interesting piece of propaganda. And what'salso interesting is there's very little relation to
what he wrote to Americans to appealin our in our kind of issues that

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we think about, has very littlerelation to what he said in Arabic to
his own followers to inspire them.There's a book called the Al Qaeda Reader
than in the Egyptian American you know, fluent in Arabic translated all his Arabic
speeches, and they're all like diedin the world religious. It's all religious

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Qoranic and Hadith and and the prophetssayings and so on and so forth.
It's really not about the day today grievances of of what's going on in
America. It's it's more, youknow, fight the infidels, and that's
who who we are, and we'rethe we're sort of the head of the

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snake of the you know, theInfidel West or what have you. So
it's very interesting. But apparently itwon over a lot of people on TikTok,
which is quite scary. And youhave to notice that Iran and China
and Russia are all becoming closer andcloser together. Iran's under a lot of

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pressure right now. China is playingthe double game, making nice with with
Biden, but then also seeing awonderful opportunity to sew division in America.
And I'm wondering if this isn't partof that plan, because it certainly benefits

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China and Iran and Russia too tofurther divide and turn Americans against each other.
Yeah. I shared a screenshot ofthe original article that appeared in The
Guardian because it's available off of thethe Internet archive. There we go,

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so so, and it it doestalk about this. I mean, if
you if you back up and youlook at it from the perspective over rober,
I think you froze up unless it'son my end end. Okay,
Yeah, I know. I'm alwayslike, is it me? Yeah,

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exactly, well, let me usethis quick break in the action to say
hi to some of our friends.Of course, our co host Claudia Santiago
is in the chat the Great BeautyBubble. It's with us, Ramsey Unleashed,
Good to see you, Thanks everybodyfor joining us. Tim Bryan is
here. Great to see Tim,recent guest on brand On Broadcasting. Thanks

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so much for joining us. Let'sget back to Ben Laden's letter as it
had appeared in The Guardian. Yeah, so there's mentions in this article about
Palestine, right, and and howwe've as America or the West, has
you know, gone to war inthat part of the world to pilfer and

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and take resources. And you know, I'm seeing all these comments about military
occupation, all this kind of stuff. So that's what he was talking about.
If you think about it in thecontext of a lot of the protests
that are going on in America rightnow kind of against the US in favor
of you know, Palestine, youcan kind of see where this, you

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know, this grievance that that heposted here kind kind of aligns with that,
right and but it is an antianti American kind of perspective, and
you know, you do have towonder if a America in its covert military

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operations has been a little bit takingadvantage of and abusing people that you know,
it wants to control too. SoI mean, I'm not taking taking
the sides of the terrorists here,but I'm I'm just reading what I'm seeing
here in this article, and Ican see this connection between protests kind of

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against the US here around our youknow, our tendencies to be a little
bit kind of you know, likeimperial or colonizing around the world and wanting
to control the world with our power, and and this is this is kind
of a you know, this isa justification for their actions against us.

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Is kind of what's going on here. And I'm not saying that's I'm I'm
saying it's it's wrong that this ishappening at all, but it's it's you
know it. If you read thisthing, it does raise some concerns if
if we are in fact doing thatto other countries, and we're you know,

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we're inflicting harm on others, youknow, as Americans and as a
country, we need to look atthat. Why why are we doing that?
So yeah, I agree with Robfor sure. Thank you for bringing
this original letter up, and Ican see I've been and now y'all looking
at me as the resident TikTok cheerleader. No, I've been on TikTok for

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a full week, so I amout of the loop here. Yeah,
I haven't seen the TikTok stuff.Yeah, but I can see what I
can project where these conversations are goingalong the lines of like, yeah,
we've really been kind of shoved Americathe Great down our throats, and we
do have a long history of imperialismand colonialism, and people have suffered at

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our political chess games. So thankyou for bringing the original to the to
the table. Yeah. Well,I mean people have also suffered based on
how other ideologies have spread across theworld. Yeah. Wow, just just
all all this garbage needs to stop. I mean, it just needs to

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stop. I mean, you know, peace is what we should all be
trying to achieve here. But maybethat's not you know, possible piece isn't
profitable, rob oh, I realizedthat totally get that right, And and
our world is set up for peopleto have power and control and influence and
all this kind of stuff, andthat's kind of human nature. It's just

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unfortunate when it happens in a waythat causes people to lose their lives and
right, and it's unfair to peoplethat are just victims in this pursuit.
And I think you know that happenson both sides. It's not you know,
on one side versus another thing.You know, our governments are kind

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of not look at you know,I don't know, do you guys think
that our governments are looking out forour best interest? It's a bigger question,
right with the vaccine and oh no, I'm just anything specific here,
but it's it's uh, of coursenot is that Howard now Les they say

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in Canada? Right, So,so I think a lot of this blowback
is coming from the fact that there'sa lot of people that want to be
pro America and this is not apro pro America topic. And I would
say that TikTok allows for for differingpoints of view, whereas previous So you

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know, at the top of theshow when Ross kind of set the story
up as being like oh, genZ on the side of bin laden like
gen Z and through TikTok, sorryabout that. Mike. Are the first
real generation I think who are notjust just like Spoon fed pro America propaganda
through traditional news channels, so theycan have these kind of conversations in a

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way that you know, millennials,gen X, boomers, et cetera could
not really have. Yeah, Imean, I don't think I was spoon
fed pro America propaganda in schools.I was. Maybe early on I was,
but not certainly not by the timeI got to high school college,
not not in the news sources thatyou know I read. The difference is

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the average person didn't have a voice, which is really good, and it's
all so bad because the average person, you know should have Like like,
being a New York Times columnist doesn'tmean that you know any more about anything
going on in the world than youI or person watched does. It just

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means you've gotten this exalted status andnow people hang on your word. But
you can be like some of themwrong for forty fifty years about everything and
continue to get a huge paycheck incorporate speaking gig. So nothing wrong with
the average person who may well knowmore than more than the quote unquote expert

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or the person with a big platform. The problem is there's so much lack
of knowledge about complicated issues on there, and the question really is for Americans,
is this being pushed? Are certainviewpoints being pushed very heavily by China

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to so discord in the United States, to turn Americans more against against their
own country. And there's a differencebetween us having a discussion here and pointing
out because I'm very critical of ourgovernment on a whole bunch of different topics

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that we've covered, it's different whenthose voices are being given an extra boost,
or those fissures in American society arebeing pushed by those who don't have
our interests. Yeah, it's notlike you're you're anti America. You're just

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you know, we live supposedly ina free country that has free speech and
and and yeah, governments do thingsthey shouldn't do, and they should be
held accountable for that. And Ithink that's that's the bigger message for both
sides, is that the people arethe ones that usually pay the pay the

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ultimate price for these these power struggles. And you know, I don't want
to be seen as anti American becauseI'm an American. Why why would I
want that? But I also wantour government to do the right thing.
Now, I mean, now,what is the right thing? Right?
Is it is it to to youknow, have influence and power around the

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world that is good for the us, or you know, or are we
taking advantage of people and and killingpeople that don't necessarily there's justification for that
type of action. Well, Ithink one of the things you also have
to consider is you have to takesome of the critiques with a grain of

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salt too, because none of thesepeople who are praising this letter would would
find themselves very happy living in aworld that that was following bin Laden's on
the world on the other side,right right, with slaves and you know,

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women covered from head to toe andnine year olds getting married and a
whole bunch of gaze thrown off ofbuildings. So it's one thing that he's
able to write this sort of westernizedcritique of the West that sounds like it's
coming from an American conservative or Americanliberal. It's another thing when you look

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at civilizationally what he would want toimpose on whatever lands he conquered and what
we have here and say, isit a critique that while it may have
some validity, I mean, hetalks about our promiscuousness and pornography or what

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this guy was found with cases ofporn in his little his little stash over
there in his compound in Pakistan.I mean, classic double standard, right.
This guy's so concerned about the poor, but he was from one of
the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia,never sent a penny to Palestine. So

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there's a lot of hippophy right right. And this is really because when when
Kuwait was invaded and Saudi Arabia wasthreatened, he told the Saudi government that
he and his gangs of al Qaedafolks or who would become al Qaeda from
had just defeated the Soviets in Afghanistanand they should be the ones to protect

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Saudi Arabian the Holy sites from SaddamHussein. And he was hurt because the
Americans were invited in. And alsothere's an Islamic argument that then we were
sort of occupying the land of theHoly sites. But there's a whole lot
more to it than the sort ofcritique of you know, liberal and conservative

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America that isn't covered in that letter. And to look at it as the
it's a it's an honest criticism ofAmerica from somebody who has no problem killing
millions, Uh, would have noproblem killing millions of civilians for his aims

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if he had the capability to doit. I would be remiss if I
didn't add that we are also ourown worst enemy in some of those areas
as well. Ross like the stirredup hate bucket that happens in any kind
of election, the hate crimes thathappened here. The anti trans movement is

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bananas. Like we supported we supportedin Afghanistan, people who think like Osama
bin Laden, maybe even Osama binLaden, uh, you know the big
big new Brazinski's and people like that, were like, hey, Islamic fundamentalism

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is a bulwark against communism, Sowe we funded, supported armed there there
were war against the Soviets in Afghanistan, when you know, maybe we shouldn't
have gotten involved, But then youknow you're weighing, okay, but then

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there's you know, Soviet expansionism,and where does that Like there's often no
good choices in these in these things, but it doesn't. But but we
we had a role in probably buildingthis guy up and and and helping him,
and certainly we had chances to takehim out along the way and never
did. So, Yeah, it'sa complicated subject here the question about that,

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and you back up, you lookat what's happening in the world today
with the open southern border and andhow there's a lot of people coming from
all over the world into this countryand we're becoming even even more of a
melting pot people from around the world, and that's inevitably going to create strife

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and conflict because of issues like this. Right, So, you know,
if we have thousands of people protestingagainst America on American streets, you know,
we're in a situation where, youknow, change is on the horizon,
if you know what I mean.So it's it's you know, and
change may not be good for theexisting infrastructure, the existing government, or

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the existing way of life that wehave here too. If if we have
you know, people that really opposeus at this level coming to this country
and being a part of our cultureand if they want to hurt us or
whatever because of what has been perpetratedonto them, there's a risk of that.

(37:53):
And I think again, if yougo back to the idea that that
TikTok is an influence operation on theUnited States and the hearts and minds of
Americans, what are we not talkingabout We're not talking about fentanyl coming from
China and killing one hundred thousand peoplewho think that they're taking a pill or

(38:15):
a safe recreational drug or something andthey're one dose and they're killed. We're
not talking about China's influence on Taiwanand their ambitions towards Taiwan. We're not
talking about the open southern border asyou mentioned, We're not talking about the

(38:37):
you know, a whole variety ofissues. Right. What we're telling is
we're debating a you know, amedieval terrorist critique, very sophisticated critique by
the way of American. I saysophisticated because he really understands the arguments we

(39:00):
have here from both sides of theaisle and how to uh to get us
fighting with each other. Yeah,so yeah, that's exactly that may be
the goal. Yeah, the onething we could do is not fight amongst
ourselves. Yeah, three of ushere and Claudia in the comments at the

(39:21):
Streamliner report. Yeah, it's sohard to know what's what the truth is
or what the direction I mean,because if we're all being misinformed about what's
happening in the world, we couldbe taking sides that are incorrect, right,
and we wouldn't even know it.Yeah, And we're also sort of
we still don't know a lot ofsort of where the red lines are on

(39:45):
a platform like YouTube. So we'redelicate with discussing some issues and we use
euphemisms and things like that at timesbecause we don't know when you say somebody
say self deleted, and you reallymean some they did something that there's a

(40:06):
more common term for. But youdon't want your show to get flagged,
even though you're not saying it inany kind of negative way. Anyway,
Let's move on to a couple othergreat stories that we've got and what could
go wrong here? Amazon taking anothershot at healthcare. This one a virtual
care service that costs nine dollars permonth or ninety nine dollars per year,

(40:32):
and you can get a telemedicine appointmentwith a doctor through Amazon. Rebecca,
sounds like a wonderful idea. Ican't think of anything that could go wrong
with Amazon having a larger role inour healthcare and following along with that trend.
This service is called Prime one Medicaland it comes after a little bit

(40:59):
of year after investing three point ninemillion dollars to take over one medical it's
not just telemedicine appointments. Just tobe fair, they do have twenty locations
across the US, but those thoseyou have to pay for exactly one is

(41:20):
free ish because you're still playing thisdescription the other through insurance or through insurance.
Correct. In August, they addedTelemento over fifty states across the US.
And I think the record scratch hereor the kind of head scratchers that
this is after just after Amazon completelytanking another initiative which they invested a lot

(41:47):
of time and effort into, andthat was kind of building some momentum,
so they they tanked that effort andthen now have put all of their ducks
in the one bucket and now youcan order I don't know so os pads,

(42:07):
mout on flake salt bourbon infused vanilla, and your doctor's appointments. I
don't know how they're vetted. Idon't know what happens when you need a
referral. I don't know what happenswith a specialist. Your doctor gets delivered
by drone your front door. Amazingbetween seven and nine, and they ordered

(42:29):
that. They ordered that doctor fromRob Greenley's AI Personal Services robot factory and
then they send you a screen shot. They send you a photo of the
doctors standing outside, so you knowit's been delivered. That's amazing, that's
amazing. Rocks all right, robwhat this craziness? Yeah, I want

(42:52):
to see the Optimist, the TeslaOptimist robot doctor show up at my door
for my appointment. That's exactly whatI want to see, exactly the tongue
depressor, Like, is he gonnalet out right? That's right. And
he's got all of the abilities totake blood tests and to do all the
exams X rays built into the robot, so he can just do it all

(43:15):
when he's here, and then hecan leave and I don't have to drive
to some clinic somewhere an hour awaylike I normally have to do. Will
be safeguarded, I'm sure. Ohyeah, no, no doubt. Nothing
nefarious happening. Thereat Smith Klein.Nothing could go go wrong. I mean,

(43:35):
I mean, these these robots couldpotentially fly too, right, They
could be like drones. They couldspout, you know, like spinning blades,
and they could fly back home andthen come to my house. Or
you could just type your symptoms intochat chept and well, that's essentially what
this is doing is it's it's justyou know, it's like having a doctor

(44:00):
on speed dial, right, youcan just call them and ask them a
question, but they can't really doanything for you. Well, then ten
years from now, after they've accumulatedall this data, you can go to
the Jeff Bezos School of Medical Degrees. And because of that, I can
tell you what I would like tohave here from this type of technology is
more of a of a functional medicinetype of doctor that would be available like

(44:25):
this, that you could ask questionsabout different kinds of foods, different kinds
of lifestyles, how you need toyou know, make your body stronger and
better. And instead of you know, this total kind of like just extension

(44:45):
of the medical sick care system thatwe have right now to actually use this
technology to help prevent illnesses and diseaseand keep I don't know how well that's
going to do for the future shareholdersof the CVS acquisition. I mean,

(45:08):
what did you say last week?The money is in the rock line?
Yeah, yeah, money is inthe medicine, and that is the opportunity
for me is around functional medicine,which is more like preventive care, right,
and I would assume you're not goingto get a lot of creativity with

(45:32):
this. I mean you have rightnow. So many practices now are under
the umbrellas of these large healthcare industrialcompanies, and they have their protocol and
and doctors seem to follow it toa t without using sort of creativity and
knowledge of the patient and repurposed drugsand things like that. I don't think

(45:57):
you're going to get any of thatthrough something it's under h that's under Amazon.
It'll be whatever whatever they need todo to you know, make sure
the insurance companies are happy and they'vecovered all the bases and whatever. So
let's not forget your pinky's hurting.You're gonna get a sent for an MRI

(46:19):
or something. You know, Well, we have to check. And it's
expensive, so why not. Let'snot forget how many hospitals are being bought
now by private equity firms. It'slike a big industry shift. So and
housing as well. And wing whyhousing it's so expensive while people's incomes and

(46:42):
savings is going down due to inflation, It's because the housing isn't being bought
uh by individual or small landlords.Is being bought by huge private equity companies,
and construction companies are now building alwaysintent for rental. So there are
single family homes that were intended forprivate mortgage one at a time, or

(47:06):
or those resources are not going intobuilding huge neighborhoods of rentals, so that
you can basically either rentals or likeyou sell the apartment, but you sell
an apartment for what you would wouldhave bought a single standalone family house for
in that neighborhood. Correct, don'tforget company towns are coming back to Oh

(47:30):
that sounds like fun. Much betterthan to live and work with the same
people and never be too far fora text message and come right back in
on the weekends exactly. You know, all your goods and services and renting
calls and everything right there is providedby the company. You just have to
work to pay it back like everyother you know, intentsured servant in history.

(47:55):
All right, So we got thatgot dark? Yeah, So one
more story, and that's has todo with our friend Elon Musk. He's
always up to something, and thistime that's something has to do with putting
that chip in our brain that we'vebeen talking about. Either one of you

(48:16):
guys understand this enough to take it? Or should I pretend that I know?
Oh my god, this is sucha rob greatly question. I'm for
chips and dips. That's what I'mfor. Chips and dips. I think
that's a different experience here. Yeah, yeah, So I mean I can

(48:37):
I can sort off. I mean, this whole neuralink thing has been bubbling
for a while, and he's he'sto a point where he's looking for humans
to test on to be his hisguinea pigs of sorts, to see how
this might work. But he's makingsome big, bold statements around how this

(48:59):
human AI interface right will have somesort of a of a restraint on the
wild and craziness of AI, whichI don't know that that's really true.
But it's also maybe it helps usbetter communicate with AI, I guess is

(49:20):
what he's hoping for here. Buthe's also kind of jumping ahead a little
bit because I thought this whole neuralinkthing was around trying to help people overcome
disabilities, right, right, Buthe seems to be jumping ahead a little
bit here, isn't he. Wellthey do talk about that in some of
the articles about it, and theytalk about it pretty much upfront, But

(49:44):
I don't know that that has todo with the risks of AI across the
population. And somehow it seems likea rather severe intervention, like they could
be more less intrusive in engines forrolling back AI besides putting the chip in
your head and connecting you to thecomputer so that the computer can can communicate

(50:07):
with you without you having to typeor move or do anything. I mean,
I don't know, it seems likethis is scary or not eases the
fear of AI. But what doI know. Yeah, he's always said
that the one of the gate gatemechanisms of the human AI interface right now

(50:30):
is our mobile phones. Right,how fast can we type into our mobile
phones? You know? How fastare our thumbs and inputting and communicating with
the AI right to get get results? But you know, he thinks that
this brain interface will will enable usto more rapidly communicate with the AI because

(50:52):
supposedly, our our our synapsis inour brain is very much like the neural
networks that he's building even for Teslaand these robots. So there's a convergence
happening around how this works. Andhe's thinking that our ability to input information
in the AI will integrate with ourbrains and be you know, a lot

(51:16):
faster than how we do it today. So I think that that's it.
I guess what everybody's concerned about iswhat's the level of control the AI is
going to have on our brains.I think that's the that's the worry,
right. There's also this kind ofthought process that you'll be able to download

(51:37):
skills into the robot, right,like how to fly a plane or something
like that. You could go intolike an app store and say I want
to learn how to fly a plane, and you go in for five ninety
nine a month. You get alittle app that downloads to your brain and
it teaches your brain how you flyan airplane. So it gives you the

(52:01):
answers to the test or like ifyou're in an interview, it gives me
the answers. When you think ofthat, it's kind of a replacement for
speed reading, I think, iswhat it is. So now Claudia says,
crazy thing. Elon is rolling thisout fairly quickly. Costs will be
pretty affordable too. I thought Isaw something where it's like it starts at

(52:25):
ten thousand five hundred for the procedure. I don't know if that's covered in
that Amazon plan or not. Iwould think surgery is probably going to be
done by a robot, right,So, so it's a robot far along
enough to know how to use itfor devious purposes. What tot of the

(52:49):
brain is it going to connect to? Is my question? So China's TikTok
cyber war against us will then beable to program let's right away tree?
Right? Well, yeah, anddo we have like a like like a
firewall of sorts in certain areas inour brain against what the AI would propose

(53:15):
or information it would put into ourbrain too? So I mean I think
there's a lot of questions about this. How how two way is this?
And how are we going to keepthat two way connection with our brains?
So? Yeah, you guys,ever heard of before we wrap up?

(53:36):
Ever heard of something called Touch PulseTP. It's a touch portal. Rather,
it's like a let me see ifI can. Yeah, I wanted
to share. Also, it's likea what do you call it? Like
a stream deck like the Elgado streamdeck, but it's on your phone and

(54:00):
you can I guess you code itto run like Macro's or to like you
hit something on your phone and it'sconnected to your computer, or like say
if there was there there's a lotof different apps with it, and so
you could get it to like you'reediting a video and you use that to

(54:22):
zoom ahead or whatever it is.I and the same way you might use
the stream deck. I'm not doinga great job describing it, but I
had never heard of it until yesterday. And I was reading through predictions as

(54:44):
I was editing them and putting theminto the book, and there was a
mention of doctor Stewart Buchan actually wasthe one who mentioned it, and he
mentioned people using it even in tandemwith stream deck, and so I I
looked it up, and uh,it's kind of interesting. I might try

(55:04):
it. I don't know what exactlythere there there. I always think of
downsides of using my phone for anything. Let me let me bring this up
as a screenshat. Now I've gotthe Now I've got the the page.
Does anybody know what I'm talking about? Does anybody know like how you use

(55:25):
like a stream deck or any ofthese times here it's just like a shortcut
pad, right, Okay, that'swhat I'm I'm trying to say, I
think, okay, here it is. Okay, it's a touch portal.
So basically this allows you it's it'sit's an inexpensive option, and it also

(55:49):
may have some additional uh uses orintegrations, maybe that stream deck. It
doesn't have to replace a stream deck, but it could be used in a
single wordows. So yeah, letme scroll scroll down. You scroll down

(56:12):
Touch portal to macro action remote control, control your desktop software machine with your
mobile device, multi action, macrobuttons, all these integrated services that you
can see, from Twitch to Windowsfunctions, stream labs, Desktop, Photoshop,
Logic, HTTP, you can controlYouTube and TikTok, events and open

(56:38):
Ai, GPT and kickstreaming, discord, ecam, iTunes, all these different
areas. You can control games throughplug ins, use services available through plugins,
and control thousands of applications and gamesas well. You can install on

(57:01):
the desktop, install mobile, andthat's it. So you install it on
your computer and mobile, and Iguess that's how it communicates. They've got
it set up for some popular appslike Photoshop and obs and Discord. They've
got icon packs that you can useand popular plug ins, and then there's

(57:24):
some upgrades that are you know,relatively affordable compared to the price of buying
a stream deck. And I havenever used it, in no way endorsing
this over a stream deck, butit's another option for either people who can't
you know, don't want to payfor a stream deck, or want to

(57:44):
learn how this works first, ormaybe it has some plug ins or features
that complement your stream deck. ButI'd never heard of it, and I
think it's interesting that it's out there. All right, So I've wow everybody
with Wow your speeches you've all gottenspeechless? Uh. Before we wrap up,

(58:07):
Rob, what do you got tonighton the show Podcast Tips with Rob
Greenley, I've got Roberto Blake isgonna going to join me on the show
tonight. He's a kind of aYouTube expert, kind of personal branding expert.
So we're going to talk about theconvergence between audio and video that's increasingly

(58:29):
happening and and you know, takequestions from viewers and things like that about
that topic and and see if wecan help people kind of navigate these confusing
waters, kind of like what wedid earlier in the show here where that
convergence is all going down. Sohe's a he's a great person to have.
Yeah, I did share a screenshotof a new capability that's now available

(58:52):
in chat GPT, and it's tocreate a a what's called a GPT,
which is your own personal chatbot.I'm so curious about this topic. I'm
so glad you're talking about it.Yeah, And I created one for stream
Yard earlier today that this this chatbot you can direct to its own custom

(59:19):
uh website r L and and shareit. And people can go to this
r L and just do a searchon making a podcast on stream Yard and
it will give you all of thesuggestions and tips and resources that are available
to to to actually start a showon on stream Yard and how to use

(59:42):
it. And it's got all thesequestions down here at the bottom, kind
of like default questions. This ishow do I start a podcast with stream
Yard? And you just click thisbutton here and it creates a prompt that
this is what. I don't know, what's what's the u r L?
Or where do I send people towho want to? Yeah? I haven't

(01:00:02):
actually, I mean it's it's publicright now. I can get you a
r L here, but do youwant me to share it now? Or
share it next week or yeah,I'm still in the process of getting it.
Kind of run through the stream yardfolks, because this is just something
that I created myself. Well,let's talk about it on the show next

(01:00:23):
week. This is this phenomenal Rebecca, what do you have coming up?
Business in the wraw, Thank youso much. On Tuesday, we're on
part two of our live sessions withTaylor Campia, who's revealing the wonderful photography
she did with Janine and myself towardsbuilding a personal brand. So if you

(01:00:45):
she's so talented, oh my god, why do you see the picture?
So last week we did you knowkind of how to set yourself up for
success working with a professional photographer foryou know, branded assets, and now
we're going to see the results andthey are kiss what about you? RB?
All right, So I got LarryRoberts on a special one on one

(01:01:07):
interview on the stream Leader Report tomorrownoon Eastern right here on YouTube and on
Twitter, and we're going to talkabout Larry made a special launch podcast launch
GPT, and we're going to talkto him. He's been speaking all over
the country about how to use chatGPT for content creation podcasting and of course

(01:01:32):
our good friend Claudia Santiago. We'llhopefully be back to co host with us
next week. You can find hereon Twitter at Claudia Santiago and elsewhere at
Claudia Santiago Official. For Rebecca Gunterand Rob Greenley. I'm Ross Brand.
This has been the stream Leader reportour live panel edition. Join us again

(01:01:52):
next week Thursday, one thirty pAm. Have a great day. Everybody
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