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July 30, 2025 35 mins
In this powerful episode of "Stuff God Never Said," hosts Audrey Cauthen and Christin Hart (aka “Cancer Warrior Kristen” on social media) dive deep into a story that is far more common—and more misunderstood—than we realize: the journey through cancer.

Christin Hart opens up about her shocking diagnosis with papillary thyroid cancer, a life-altering moment that came after years of survival mode, burnout, and striving to protect her family through every curveball life threw her way. From her family’s courageous move from San Diego to Nashville at the start of the pandemic, to the emotional exhaustion of supporting her husband through health crises, Christin shares candidly about navigating seasons of uncertainty, fear, and hope.

This episode is a beacon for anyone facing the darkness of a health battle or struggling to surrender their own plans for God’s unknown, and often unexpected, path. Christin’s story is rich with honesty—she breaks through misconceptions about what God “never said” about suffering, healing, health, and faith, and offers hard-earned encouragement for those facing their own trials.

Here’s what you’ll find in this episode:


  • The silent epidemic: startling cancer statistics and why Christin refuses to keep her journey silent any longer.
  • Christin’s personal battle: from mysterious symptoms and gut feelings to a diagnosis that rocked her world, and why her journey is about more than just survival.
  • The power (and pain) of letting go of our own plans—and how Christin learned to surrender hers for God’s greater purpose.
  • Hard questions: Dealing with fear, discouragement, and “guardian mechanisms” that keep us functioning but disconnected from ourselves and God’s healing work.
  • A deeper exploration of holistic healing, trauma, and the importance of emotional health in physical recovery.
  • Raw moments of faith, doubt, and miraculous prayers—and a new understanding of what it means to get your “voice” back in the midst of adversity.
  • Real talk about the broken health care system, limited options, and what it means to fight for hope when you’re told there’s none.
  • What Christin wishes every person battling cancer, chronic illness, or disappointment in God would know.

Whether you’re walking through a health crisis, supporting a loved one, or simply longing to understand where God is in life’s hardest detours, Christin’s candid testimony will inspire you to look for hope, healing, and the gentle leading of God—even in the most unexpected places.

Don't miss this honest, hope-filled conversation. Share this episode with anyone who needs encouragement in the fight for faith, health, or purpose!

Stay Connected & Learn More:

Find Christin Hart online: https://linktr.ee/therealchristinhart

Christin's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cancer.warrior.christin

Contact Audrey and the team: sup@stuffgodneversaid.com

Visit our website: www.stuffgodneversaid.com

Mentioned on the Show:
Dr. Antonio Jimenez’s book, Hope for Cancer: https://a.co/d/aepib5F

Information about MTHFR gene mutation: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/3d537948-b239-4aa1-afe4-a11e1c33ef4e#0

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TIMESTAMP:
00:00 "Wife, Mom, Nashville Move Story"
06:33 Embracing Change with Faith
10:00 Chronic Pain and Marital Struggles
13:15 Chiropractic Surprises in Pain Relief
16:58 Intuition Before Diagnosis
19:53 Emotional Detachment as Survival Mechanism
22:33 Fear of Surgery Over Cancer
24:09 Healing Through Neurofeedback Therapy
30:11 "Successful Surgery and Recovery"
31:10 Cancer Prognosis and Treatment Plan
34:44 Choosing Hope Over Depression

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He was just really low and depressed, and am I
gonna get somebody that walks on my doorstep and tells
me my husband's gone and I'm gonna have to raise
three little kids by myself. It was probably one of
the hardest seasons of my life. I just was in
constant survival state, I think for my whole life, if
I'm being really honest, And that moment is when I

(00:21):
got really scared because it was not the way it
was supposed to go. You're having thoughts like how many
years to have left. All my brain heard at that
point is We're just gonna poison you.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Welcome back to stuff God never said. Today, I have
my precious, incredible friend, Kristin Hart. She's on the Instagram's,
the social media's as Cancer Warrior Kristin. She has an
incredible story of hope and redemption and encouragement through a
cancer diagnosis, and I am just so excited and honored

(00:58):
that she's here with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
So thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thanks for having me. I feel very honored and special
to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
You are special. You are special.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
You have a really special and unique take on I
think a story that is way more common than we
want to be in which is cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, one in three people now one it will be
diagnosed cancer in twenty thirty one and two one in
two people will be diagnosed with cancer.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, it's the silent epidemic. Yeah, it's not silent anymore, right,
We're not making it silent. No, No, it's definitely a
shift happening in holy Moly, around health across the world.
So it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, that's wild. I didn't know it was that high. Yeah,
I know, I feel that in my tummy.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's like a bit. That's way way more than I
thought it was.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yes, So you know, it's like when I'm telling my family, like,
you know, we're just going to eat organic from now
on because pesticides are especially glyphysate is a proven carcinogen.
That's actually how they figure out how to treat cancer.
They inject rats and mice with glyphisate and it forms
a tumor in them, and then they take them in

(02:17):
the lab and they figure out how to get rid
of it.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm sorry, pesticides are glyphysate.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, I think glyphysate is one type of pesticide. M hm.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
You have so much knowledge and so much insight and wisdom.
Is so you're probably I'm probably gonna slow you down
because I'm not I'm not there, Yeah, but I want
to learn everything that you know and everything you have
to say.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So let's start from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Tell us about who you are, your family and all
those good things, and then what led you to to
a diagnosis.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, so I am a wife and a mom of
three amazing teenagers and wanted actually two teenagers and one
adult now, which is crazy. My oldest daughter just turned
eighteen this year, which feels very surreal, and lots of
emotions around that.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
We moved to the Nashville area about five years ago
now this month, in twenty twenty on a crazy whim
of a dream. We actually prayed about it for two
years before we moved here, and I was mostly the
ones slowing it down because I just wanted to be

(03:33):
extra extra sure this is what God wanted for our
family and we weren't just doing it for selfish, selfish reasons.
And so around at the fall of twenty nineteen, God
was like, sell your house, and nobody put an offer
in our house for like five months, and I was like,
are you sure this is what you said to do?

(03:55):
And it sold. January third of twenty twenty, we moved
in with my sister law because we're going to transition
to move out here, and then COVID happened, I lost
my job, everything shut down. We're like, we're just going
to go now, and we haven't really looked back. And
so my husband is in the music business, in the
Christian music business, and just watching his journey has been

(04:20):
amazing to see what God can do when you step
out in faith with you know, when he says to
do something and you really don't have a plan or
know how it's all gonna work out in the end,
but it does. And he's done really well for himself.
He actually had a song released today by a well

(04:41):
known artist, Big Daddy Weave is releasing one of his
songs today, and so that's super exciting. And there's just
so many little God moments in that journey. And so
I'm really grateful that our kids have gotten to witness
him following the Lord in the mess. And I think,
you know, that's always been my deepest prayers that no

(05:04):
matter what happens in our lives, that our children would
never walk away from Jesus, that they would see his tangibility,
that they would know him and experience him, and that
that would just like be ingrained into their souls for
their own lives.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
So yeah, yeah, I love how from the very beginning
of that, you're like, I wanted to make super sure
all the plans went just right, and then you're like
the next sentence is and then COVID hit Yeah. It's
like m hmm, yeah, that's I feel like that's such
an important point too, because who doesn't have a plan

(05:43):
for their life? I mean, who doesn't honestly think like, oh,
this is how it's gonna go, and then we'll do this.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm just gonna plan.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Out every little of detail or at least like you know,
I just when I when I was sharing my testimony,
I was like, oh, this was my plan and it
was like super cute, cute idea.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's not God's plan. Yeah how.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
And I think even how we let go of our
plans and surrender to God's plan is such a good
example for our kids. Yes, in teaching them to like
really be able to see God instead of like fighting
him and like, no, this is not the plan. This
is this is not what we are doing because it's
not the plan, but instead being like, Okay, I guess

(06:27):
we're gonna go this way because you're opening that door
to move to Tennessee right now. Yeah, so here we go.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Lots of pivots, but definitely in that season it was like,
I thank God was just being kind to me because
I'm such a planner and I'm such like I think
that comes now, like in hindsight, just learning a lot
about how much fear I lived in and how I
just wanted to make sure I was safe and secure

(06:55):
in like every aspect of my life. And just uprooting
your whole family from San Diego and moving to Nashville
was not in the Christian music business, was not a
secure plan for me, And so it was just God's
grace of like preparing my heart for that in that season.

(07:15):
And I think that's around the time when I got sick. Ironically,
so when you were moving, I think in twenty twenty, Yeah,
I have suspicions, but there's no way to know for sure.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah. So you get to Tennessee and you're working.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And yeah, so this is fun. So we had no
money when we moved here. And like no money. And
we had one client booked for my husband's business, like
we're literally and he was coming the next week. After
we moved into our house, which was sight unseen because
we couldn't fly out here to see it and during

(07:54):
COVID and there's just so many restrictions and we didn't
want to like get stranded or stuck anywhere. You know,
every body was panicking and just nobody knew what was
going to happen. And so we had our first client
the the week after.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
We moved here.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
So were literally just piecing together the studio like as
fast as we could. And yeah, God just provided like
just what we needed every week. And so to help
supplement income and I didn't know where the heck anything was,
I decided to drive Instacart during that time because nobody

(08:28):
was buying their groceries and I was like, oh, this
will be fun. Like I feel so homesick, Like when
I don't feel like I know where things are, it
makes me feel sad and homesick. And so I was like,
I'll drive Instacart and make some side cash and yeah,
so that's what I did for like six to eight months.
It was drive Instacarta.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
And then you learned where everything is. Yeah, it was great,
so funny. My husband's that way too, even when we're
on vacation.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
The first esis, I don't know where stuff is the map.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny, but yeah, that's really smart. So
you drove instacart had a client, yeah, or was it
like a production client. Yeah, there are all production clients.
He's solely only done production since we've got here, which
is just a miracle in of itself. And he's very
talented and he is very much about the mission of music.

(09:21):
And you know, Sam was a worship pastor for fifteen
years and I think that is just he's talented and
he has all the abilities. But that's like he doesn't
do it for like he would do it for free, do.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know what I mean? Yeah, he's doing it for
the missional aspect of it, which is just speaks volumes
about him. So yeah, Oh he's a good guy and
he's super talented.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah that helps.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
He is. He won't admit to it, but you can
admit it for it.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's fine. Tell everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
So then when did you get sick or when did
you start thinking something's not right or.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, I mean I had always had some weird health
issues over the years. Looking back, when we were living
in Fresno, California at one time, and I woke up
one day and I had this like horrendous pain in
my feet, like in the balls of my feet. It
was so weird. And during that time was a really

(10:22):
stressful season where my husband was going through a major
burnout and just like not well, and you know, it
was a really rough season on our marriage, and he
was contemplating, like he just wasn't right in his heart,
in his mind. He was like contemplating divorce at that time,

(10:43):
and I just knew something wasn't okay. So we went
to take him to different doctors, and our church was
like super supportive, like go to a therapist, go see
this doctor, go see a geneticist. And if we thought,
like a geneticist, that's so random, because that wasn't really
like a thing people did back then. This was probably
like twenty to fifteen years ago. And he found out

(11:07):
he had a gene mutation, which a lot of us do.
I think like seventy percent of the population have this
thing called MTHFR.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I just found out I have that, Yeah, with apparently
seventy percent.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, a lot of people do. And so he had
two strains of it, and so his body was just
like not detoxing, not doing well at all. And that
was a lot of the what was going on with him.
And during that time, he was just really low and depressed,
and I just didn't know, Like honestly, there were days

(11:45):
where I'm like, am I gonna get somebody that walks
on my doorstep and tells me my husband's gone and
I'm gonna have to raise three little kids by myself.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It was probably one of the hardest.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Seasons of my life. And so I think my body
was just like I'm done, like it tapped out. And
now knowing it was, my nervous system, you know, just
started kind of going haywire, and so I got this
pain in my feet. I could hardly walk across the
floor without and being in tears, like that's how bad

(12:19):
it was. And I remember trying not to cry. I
just I know it's good for you.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's good for you. You taught me that it is right.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
But yeah, just being my god, I can't be in
this much pain, like raising three little kids like I have.
There have to get up and take care of them
and and so it was.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I was in that condition for probably about a year,
and then I was just getting really real and raw
with the Lord and I'm like, just show me what
to do, Like I just this is what you want
for the rest of my life? Fine, but like I
really just don't. I was just wrestling him, like I'm
really fed up. And so then he was like, go
see this chiropractor. And then I was like what And

(13:08):
so I went to a chiropractor and he adjusted me
and he was like, oh yeah, it's this, this and
this is off in your body and like then eighty
five percent of my pain was gone. But he's like,
you have severe nerve damage, so that's going to take
like three to five years for your feet to completely heal.
And he was absolutely right. And so like hindsight, I

(13:32):
was I would I'm not wouldn't consider myself a person
that was like open to more integrative medicine or these
different modalities that we have. And so that was kind
of a big like huh, okay, it's interesting. I didn't
think a chiropractor would help me with that, you know,
And so yeah, I went on and that was kind

(13:55):
of like the first big thing. And then then when
we moved here, I just noticed like little things like
my metabolism started really slowing down. It was like I
couldn't keep off weight. Not that I was overweight, but
it wasn't like normal for how my body like would
operate on a day to day basis. And I started

(14:15):
getting like more mormonal acne again. And I also had
this condition that I had like suffered with for twelve
years up until last year, where I had salivary stones.
And you know, the doctors were always like it's fine,
like some of them will pass and it'll be good.

(14:38):
You like just kind of ignore it and go on
with your life.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Salivary stones. Salivary stones.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, So your glands, like any gland in your body,
it can produce like it's an over calcification, like your
body's not regulating calcium. And so I was getting these
chronic stones gland and it was pretty painful and it
would flare up, and like anyway, I learned later on,

(15:06):
like that's you know, chronic inflammation, and when you have
inflammation in your body for a really long time, it
can lead toward contribute toward disease. So there was all
these like little things. But the biggest thing is, you know,
the emotional aspect was not I just I don't know.

(15:29):
It was in constant survival state. I think for like
my whole life, if I'm being really honest, you know,
like not feeling safe and secure. Yeah and so, and
I think that stemmed from a really young age. You know,
some traumatic things that happened.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I want to dig into those, but first tell
me what led to your why you went to the doctor,
and how you ended up with a cancer diagnosis.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, so it was the sound a very stone issue
was going on again. I started getting this a new
sort of pain, like jaw pain. Now. I went in
to see my dentist and he did a scan or
X ray and he's like, yeah, you have these stones
and I'm like, these dang stylets. They're always like bothering me.
And then the next week I was flying out to
my mom's and so I was doing like these massage

(16:21):
techniques to try to like relieve the pressure because it
would just get blocked. And then I felt a lump
on the front of my throat and it was like
a hard little pebble. And my mom had had thyroid
cancer when she was she was diagnosed in her late forties,

(16:43):
and so I went over to her. I'm like, what
is this? You know? She's like swallow and I swallowed
and it moved up and down. She's like, that's on
your thyroid. You need to go get it checked out.
And in that moment, I knew it was cancer. I
just knew it. It was weird. I don't know how
to explain that, but so I went home and I

(17:05):
met with my primary care doctor and I went in
for an ultrasound and as the ultrasound lady's doing the
stuff on my neck, she's like when she's done, she's like,
can I put your necklace back on for you? And
like being really kind and sweet. Like it's like, oh,
this is not good. And so then I went in

(17:26):
for a biopsy and same thing. The nurse was like
very optimistic, and then she got really quiet and stopped
talking about stuff. And yeah, like a couple of weeks later,
I got the call and the way I'm from the
gym and my doctor's like, well, I got your labs back,
and do you have a place where you can like

(17:48):
pull over and chat? And I was like just tell me,
like I already know, you know, She's like, yeah, unfortunately,
it is cancer. It's papillari third cancer, and it's been
confirmed it's also in one of your lymph nodes, so
it's already spread and you're going to need to go

(18:08):
see an oncologist and they're probably going to put you
in through surgery and radiation, which is very typical. And
I was like, okay, cool, and it was kind of
like a surreal moment. But because my mom had gone
through it, I was like, well, I'm going to be fine.
Like I'm going to go in, I'm going to get
the surgery, I'm going to get the radioactive eydine treatment.

(18:29):
This is the best cancer you can get if you
get one, because it's ninety eight percent treatable. And I'm
going to be fine. But I walked in the door
and then I was like thinking about the how is
it's going to affect my family? You know, because when

(18:51):
it happens to you, it's not just happening cancer diagnosis
just going to happen to you. It happens to the
people you love. And I feel like I understand that
a little bit, like watching what my husband went through
years before, like being the caretaker and the person walking
with somebody on their difficult journey.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
And so.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Sam was in complete shock. He like thought, for sure,
like you're too young and too healthy, like you work out,
you eat so good and all this stuff, and how
can this be happening? And I told my kids, like, yeah,
it's cancer, but it's the best type, and I'm gonna
be fine and we're gonna go on with life and
things will be back to normal in like six months.

(19:34):
You know. That's what I really believed, and that's not
how the story went. So yeah, that was how I
found out. So even though you were like from the
get go you were sure it was cancer, did that
soften the blow at all when the doctor said, sorry,
it's cancer. Well, I think I have this like guardian

(19:57):
mechanism in my brain, like I've and through so much
hardship in my life that I'm very detached from my emotions,
or I have been very detached from my emotions, and
it's been a good protective mechanism for me that's helped
me survive up until this point. And so I think

(20:18):
that's kind of what was happening in that moment. And
then once my family was gone and I didn't have
to be protective or on for them or you know,
soften the blow. I did go up to my room
and I just kind of sat there, and I was like,
I wasn't really afraid that I had been diagnosed with cancer.

(20:39):
I was more really upset and disappointed in myself that
I didn't do anything I wanted to do in life,
or I didn't get to live my dreams or be
myself and yeah, so anyway, it was like I didn't

(21:01):
know what the future looked like. But it was also
this reality like, oh, you're not as young, you don't
have as much time as you thought you might have,
you know. I mean I didn't think I was gonna
die at that point, but it just kind of makes
you step back and really evaluate all the decisions you've

(21:24):
made in your life, what you've done. And I don't
regret like being a mom or a wife and being
with my family, like I would never change that. But
I got married very young at twenty, Like I went
straight from living at home to being married, and I
had a kid like pretty much a year later. So
I didn't really know myself, you know. And I think

(21:45):
growing up in a Christian community, focusing on self or
the things God puts in your heart, or I just
kind of shove that aside, like that's selfish and I'm
supposed to be supporting my family and doing everything for them.
But you know, I was silencing my own voice over

(22:06):
the years, and I didn't really realize it. I was
just kind of going through the motions, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
So, yeah, which is clearly such a cool part of
God's healing and redemption in you.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
But let's go to the next season.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
So you start the you had the surgery, you went
and did the radioactive I have done?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
And how did that turn out? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
So my surgery got delayed like ten months, seven months
something around there for insurance purposes, which is a whole
nother fun, silent thing that people don't really talk about
when you're going through cancer. And finally found a surgeon
I was comfortable with because you know me, I'm going

(22:55):
to research everything and make sure this guy has done
it like at least five billion times before he cuts open.
I was really afraid of the surgery, I think more
than the cancer, because you have a lot going on
in this small space. Your voice is there, your facial nerves,
like you got some main arteries going on that, like

(23:18):
you know, could take you out in a second. Like
the surgery actually when you look at it statistically, is
more life threatening than the cancer itself statistically. So I
think I was very afraid in overanalyzing that a little
bit and wanted to control that situation. So finally found
a surgeon. He was like, why the heck haven't you

(23:38):
done this yet? And we did another CT scan before
I went in, and I was just praying that God
would not let me lose my voice during the surgery.
I was just like, because that's how I met Sam,
and you know what I mean. Like I'm not a
musician or anything, but I was like, I just don't

(24:01):
want to lose my voice. I just want that one
thing if you can keep it there, I.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Feel like we need to just put a pin in
that brainer.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, because I didn't know what I was talking about
in that moment, do you know what I mean? Like
on a deep level. But I'm going to tell you
a story really quick. Before I went into surgery, I
was in I was doing a neurofeedback therapy to help
my trauma brain and help calm down my nervous system.

(24:31):
And you know cancer is a traumatic experience in of itself,
but I really wanted to start like healing like the
whole person and just not wasting my life anymore and
trying to figure out like who am I and what
do I care about? And so anyway, I was seeing

(24:53):
this guy and he was a neurofeedback therapist and a oh,
what's it called heart sync therapist, which is like a
version of IFS and recall healing, which are different types
of emotional therapy. And anyway, we're doing a session and

(25:14):
I think I felt really defeated because I was trying
to do some holistic stuff before. Then I had a
good friend who came alongside me and started kind of
teaching me these things like you can help support your body.
And I was like, okay, you know, like if I
don't have to have surgery, like awesome, like because I
was praying, like God, just heal me, heal me, heal me,

(25:35):
and and he never did, and I was kind of
like disappointed in that, and so I came to this
moment like, oh I have to get surgery now like
I failed or I didn't do something right or didn't
do enough, and so I was pretty like just no
filter at that point, and I was just angry and

(25:57):
mad and like pretty discouraged, like I'm just not gonna
get better, Like I'm not going to heal and this
is just like in a really bad headspace. And so
he was like, can I just pray for you before
you go into this surgery next week? And I was

(26:18):
like sure, so many people have prayed for me, now,
like what's one more prayer going to do? You know,
it's pretty fed up. So he's praying, and as he's praying,
I feel this warmth in my throat, like a physical,
tangible warming feeling, and I was like, what the heck

(26:40):
is happening? Nothing like this has happened to me before
in my life. And during that session, we're doing some
like visualization and he would always ask like where is
Jesus in the room, because he's always with us, He's
always present and he never leaves you, and so where

(27:00):
do you see him? And it's like, well, he's he's
like a light. You know. This was the session before
he started praying for me, and Jesus was reaching into
my throat and pulling out something black in my throat,
and then he was pulling out all my organs and
they were all black. And he's like, well, if God

(27:24):
takes something from you, he always puts replaces it with
something good, because he doesn't leave you or abandon you.
And so what's he replacing it with? And then I
saw he was putting all my organs back in me,
but they were gold and like bright light. And then he,

(27:48):
you know, put it back in my throat. And and
so when he was praying after this, like and feeling
that warmth immediately when he's done, I like checked my neck,
you know, I was like, no, but still there. I
can still feel it. I'm not healed, you know. I
knew it wasn't gonna work. So just totally like the

(28:11):
realist in me, you know, like this inner battle of like, yeah, God,
I think you can heal me. I'm pretty sure you can.
I mean, I've seen you do it for a bunch
of other people. But yeah, that would be a little
too much for myself.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
And so anyway, I told him what happened. He's like,
that's only happened one other time. I've prayed for somebody
and she had cancer and then she went in and
all her scans were clear, and I was like, that's
not what's happening. Like it didn't like I knew I
was still going to get the surgery and I still
had cancer. And so but I went home and I

(28:50):
talked to Sam about it, and he was like, Kristen,
I think God is healing your voice. He's giving you
your voice back. And I had moments like with my acupuncturist,
who is a Jewish rabbi, which is really funny, and
like first moment I met him, he was like, yeah,

(29:12):
are disease is Like there's actual scientific evidence for this,
where like when we don't deal with emotions or you know,
we have trauma or repressed emotions, they actually take hold
in different parts of our body. And that's mine was

(29:35):
in the thiraide, which is you know, sits right on
top of your vocal cords. So the symbolism of that
is pretty not a coincident. No, none of it is.
None of it's a coincidence. I don't believe in coincidences anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And so.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I was like that resonated with me when Sam said that,
in my spirit, I was like, yes, God is giving
me back my voice. I don't really know what that means,
but that makes sense to me. Yeah, So so yeah,
I went in and had surgery and I came out fine.
I had zero pain, I could speak clearly, like no

(30:14):
raspiness at all, which is very uncommon for that type
of surgery, and I was like great. So then I
went in and I was like, time to do the
radioactividine and be done with all this, ready to get
back to life. And so I did, and then I
went back you know, you have to isolate for a

(30:35):
week because you're radioactive, and went back in for my
scans to see like if it was uptaking in my body.
And then I got a call from my doctor a
few days later and she's like, man, you are so unlucky.
You just like she's like, I don't know what to say,

(30:55):
but this the radioactividine didn't work. Your body's not absorbed it.
And so she's like, I'm no longer going to be
your doctor. I'm transferring you to oncology and they're going
to help you with the next steps. And in that
moment is when I got really scared, imagine, because it

(31:21):
was not the way it was supposed to go. And
so then you're having thoughts like how many years do
I have left in your researching and reading all the
stats and they're just not good. Sorry. So I went

(31:42):
in and met with my oncologist and I was like, Okay,
what's the plan. And he said, well, we can put
you on a TKI drug, which is a type of
chemo drug that blocks all the blood flow to the tumors.
Because to back up, after my surgery, they found out

(32:05):
that they didn't get all the cancer out, and after
the radioactividine, I still had two tumors in my chest,
so I had progressed into my chest.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
And so he said, you can.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Go on this drug. It'll block the blood flow to
the tumors, but you'll probably have to be on it
the rest of your life. You're probably gonna lose your
hair or you could get really sick. So it acts
like a normal chemo drug and then or like until
the cancer gets smart enough, like you're gonna have to

(32:39):
switch to another one and hopefully that one will work
for you, and you know, then we can decide something
later on down the road. Or you can do surgery
and we can go in and do traditional radiation where
they actually burn the body or burn the cells. And

(33:01):
he's like, well, I don't really like that option for
you because you're so young, and that does put you
at high risk for a secondary cancer like leukemia or
lymphoma down the road. Or we could just watch and
wait and see what happens. And so all my brain
heard at that point, because you know, through this whole journey,

(33:22):
I've been reading books and researching, We're just going to
poison you. Yeah, and we don't really have a cure.
We're just kind of making it up as we go
along and hoping for the best.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, and very like this is our protocol yeah, for cancer,
not our solutions for Kristen.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah. And so.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know, I left and my mom calls me and
she's like, so what are you going to do? And
I'm like, I just I don't know. I don't know
what I'm going to do. And I was like, I
don't like any of these options, and it just didn't
feel right to me. And the thing that I walked
away with was just like, there's no hope. There's no

(34:07):
hope for me, Like this is the rest of my
life was dealing with this, and so you know, my
own colleges basically was like, there's not really any He
didn't say that, but that's like how it felt like
there was just no hope for a cure or and I,
you know, surgery and radioactive eyed Dine was not like, Yeah,

(34:28):
we're gonna get this done and I'm gonna be good.
And it was just a really that was a dark
week going home and just all the things running through
your mind.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And then you know, like you.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Can be sad and depressed for only so long before
it starts driving you insane. And I was like, you
know what, I don't choose this. I'm like, there's gotta
be another way. There's got to be something, you know.
And I had been reading doctor Antonio Jimenez's book Hope

(35:10):
for Cancer for a long time, just researching stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's what you needed. You need to hope, right, great.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And so I was like I want to go there,
but it's fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Thank you guys so much for being here and joining
us for this conversation with Kristinhart. I pray that you
are encouraged and inspired.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
By her testimony.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
If you have any questions, as always, please email us
at SUP That's Sup Sup at Stuff Good Never Said
dot com, or you can find us online at www
dot stuff goodnever said dot com We'll see you next time.
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