Subculture Radio Show Ep #106

David Griffiths, Harley Woods, Kyle McGrath and Lee Griffiths are back with a new episode of the Subculture Radio Show.

This time around they look at their favourite movies, directors and the best live action remakes of animated films.

They also review 28 Years Later, F1: The Movie and Jurassic World: Rebirth.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Carlie.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Guess what, I'm mad and you're not.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
There is a Jewel in Town?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Ah, you mean Carlijewel.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I do.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Carli Jewel is back with a brand new, absolutely amazing album.
This album, of course, is called There's a Jewel in
Town and well, this is one of those albums that
you simply must have because Carlie is one of the
best and most promising artists out there on the Australian
rock scene right now. And if you want to grab

(00:30):
a copy of this amazing, brand new album, well you've
only got to go to Carlie's very own Bigcartel dot
com website, which is actually exmusic label dot Bigcartel dot
com and you can search for Carlie Jewel or guess what,
our very very good friends at Rumorg Records are stocking

(00:51):
Carli's brand new album. So you can head to either
of those places and support a great Australian artist by
grabbing her brand new There's a Jewel in Town coming
June twentieth, Well it's out now, that means, so grab
a copy of There's a Duel in Town right now
by Carli Jewel. Fantastic Hello and welcome to another episode

(01:33):
of subculture meets the Popcorn Conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm Dave g and joining me right now is Harley.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Welcome it, Thanks Dave, Hello, everyone, welcome back to the show.
What's on today's episode, Dave, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Today is a big film show because while I was sick,
we had a lot of music interviews sitting on the shelf,
so it was easy just to put those into the show.
But in doing so, we missed out on a lot
of the big movies that were opening at the time.
So we thought to it we would do a big
movie show, but also we thought we would play you guys,
because we've had some questions revolving around this.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
We thought we would.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Also play two segments that we did for Patreon. I
think we did it late last year for Patreon, but
it was looking at all of our favorite films and
our favorite directors, so we try we actually play them
today on the show as well, so you pick guys
out there can get a feel for what kind of
movies and what kind of directors myself, Kyle and Harley like,

(02:34):
and Lee because Lee still does some stuff for Patreon
as well, So we're going to play those today, but
we're also going to take a look at some of
the biggest film.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
And the prize to whoever can guess which one of
us is into snuff films. No, just kid, But.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
We're also going to take a look at some of
the biggest films that's out at the moment well as well.
So we're going to look at Megan two point zero,
We're going to look at Formula one with Brad Pitt,
I'm going to take a look at twenty eight years Later,
and also the brand new Jurassic World movie as well,
plus others.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
So yeah, and also all of the music.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Today, Halle, I actually want a question out on Discord
this week asking people what music from films would they
like to hear, So all throughout the show today, we're
going to be playing tracks that people have requested through
Discord as well from various movies. And also, in just
a few moments we're actually done, we're actually going to

(03:32):
take a look at the little discussion point that you
set up a couple of weeks ago on the show
where you ask people about live action remakes of animated movies.
So we're going to take a look at the results
from that in just a moment as well. But let's
just jump straight into today's show. Let's jump in and

(03:54):
take a listen to a couple of tracks from movie soundtracks.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Said, look at what you see.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Look never out of your.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Dreams, Baby, listen, that's gone, go.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Release the start.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Live fantasy.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
Dream a dream.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
But what you say will be by Bessy best doll
behind doll.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Mo my.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
Yes, st.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Stop show.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
What she may pay away the butter the new because
bessyman behind the fall rain is the answer to one.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
Stool snow.

Speaker 9 (06:58):
Another shows calls all.

Speaker 10 (07:16):
Men, sister man has romantic what's breached?

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Likening breeze seeze. We reached light laim, We reas s greeeze.
We reased like lamp. We greased breeze. We reached lightlim
We reased like man. I got cheese them both flon
cannot blue Blobo bo bo.

Speaker 9 (07:43):
You're suppliant.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
It's a leper.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Then say, baby, tell you.

Speaker 8 (07:59):
That's say.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
That's pre lighting.

Speaker 11 (08:34):
It lift it's a four.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
BT all.

Speaker 12 (08:39):
Talking.

Speaker 13 (08:40):
You wouldn't judge and cut off and crawls a talking.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
They were posted on the floor, never waiting on the door.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
You rack were put away slide.

Speaker 14 (08:56):
Slide in the broom of the photo of masl and.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
You got a blood job.

Speaker 15 (09:07):
You wants a free it's a creepy there's.

Speaker 16 (09:10):
Like we'll get some purple Breds tale like pretty instal.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
Is talking James.

Speaker 8 (09:25):
When the musters gets.

Speaker 17 (09:26):
Chanting and dancing, got a Bragg's real wants a wagon's light.

Speaker 11 (09:45):
And love.

Speaker 18 (09:57):
Bl pa.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
A mad girl crazy?

Speaker 7 (10:08):
Excuse me? So the days drift away.

Speaker 8 (10:14):
Some of the nights?

Speaker 18 (10:18):
Tell me?

Speaker 8 (10:19):
Tell me did.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
She spent mom?

Speaker 12 (10:31):
She got a praying here and find must sit down?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Save the light?

Speaker 7 (10:41):
He shut up?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Slash a.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
Storm song?

Speaker 19 (10:46):
So what the song of the night?

Speaker 11 (10:56):
Tell me?

Speaker 8 (10:57):
Tell me it's too good.

Speaker 11 (11:05):
Let's where it is?

Speaker 20 (11:08):
So I told her needs still befferend.

Speaker 11 (11:15):
A true Lol, Wonder what.

Speaker 12 (11:22):
She is doing.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Some dream.

Speaker 12 (11:31):
Grip see.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
B those.

Speaker 18 (11:46):
No.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now I want to talk about a very very special
film that's in cinemas right now, in the form of
twenty eight years later, now twenty five years ago, a
very special cinematic relationship was forged. Director Danny Boyle chose
to bring a novel by a young writer named Alex
Garland to the screen, and that film was The Beach.
From there, the duo then teamed up again when Garlan

(12:21):
wrote the screenplay to Boyle's zombie film twenty eight days later,
and then again for Boyle's epic sci fi Sunshine. It
began to look like the perfect screenwriter director relationship, even
to the point where at one point it was being
rumored that Danny Boyle was going to direct Alex Garland's
dread film when things started to go wrong on that film.

(12:45):
But from there it felt like the pair went in
separate directions. Garlan went on to make masterpieces like Ex
Mackina Warfare and Civil War. Will Boyle went on to
make a plethora of movies, including the Oscar winning slum
Dog Millionaire. Meanwhile, the twenty eight franchise that began with
twenty eight days Later kind of moved on without them

(13:08):
with the not so well received twenty eight weeks later.
But Garland and Boyle kept on saying on podcasts and
interviews that one day they would return to that story
that they'd begun in twenty eight days later. They even
teased fans at one point by saying that they were
working on twenty eight months later. Now, the two have

(13:30):
said that such a long time pass that calling this
movie twenty eight months later was kind of redundant, so
they decided to go with twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Eight years later.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Now story wise, for twenty eight years later, nearly three
decades have passed. The rage virus has now pretty much
been eradicated in Europe, but it still runs rampant across
the UK. In fact, the UK is now considered a
quarantine zone. Nobody leaves and nobody is supposed to enter.
One lucky colony, though, have found solace. They live on

(14:04):
an island separated by a causeway, and life there is
generally happy, so all sing alongs in pubs and things
like that. But it also means for youngsters like Spike
played by newcomer Alfie Williams, they've never had to come
face to face with the infected. It also means that
they have to live like they are in the eighteen hundreds,

(14:24):
with no electricity or internet, etc. Now the normally happy
life of Spike Current is suddenly interrupted though by the
fact that his mother Eyler played by Jody Comer, is sick.
While he is worried about her, his father, Jamie played
by Aaron Taylor Francis, decides it's time for him to
come on the scavenging trips to the mainland. This leads

(14:48):
to Jamie coming face to face with the new more
intelligent and deadly infected like Sampson played by g Lewis Parry,
and learning about doctor Kelson played by Ralph the latter,
someone Spike feels might be able to help his mother,
which then sparks, of course, another big journey. Now, if

(15:09):
you're expecting twenty eight years Later to be like a
modern day blockbuster designed for a pop culture audience, think again.
Boil Garland and their regular cinematographer Anthony DoD Mantle takes
this film in a whole new direction. This goes to
the extremes of artistic cinema, with flashy, fast paced edits

(15:30):
and a soundscape that hits the audiences in the same
way that Garland's recent Warfare did. I'm not even joking there.
There are times in this movie where the soundscape coming
out of the speakers hits you literally like a punch
to the face. Now, what brings this film to the foe, though,
is the naturalism that manages to seep its way through

(15:50):
the entire film. While the norm these days is to
deliver kind of out of the world cgi and these
post apocalyptic vine elements that you can tell that have
been created.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
In a computer.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
What we have here looks and feels very very different.
It basically looks and feels what would happen if our
world went to hell tomorrow, And in a way, I
found that that made this movie even more terrifying. That
naturalization also floods through the story as well. With Garland's screenplay,

(16:27):
they allow Spike, the hero, to be more focused on
the concerns of his mother's health rather than the zombie
apocalypse that is happening around them.

Speaker 21 (16:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I know that the themes of human emotion during a
world ending event have been pretty much thoroughly explored in
shows like The Walking Dead and Jericho, but here it
feels like Garland is using the eyes of a child
to kind of take that naturalism and that human emotion
to a whole new level. The realism of the film

(16:58):
also allows for some unacting performances. Alfie Williams is absolutely
sensational here. He puts in a performance it's well and
truly beyond his years, and he often carries this film.
There's a lot of scenes here where it's just him,
or it's just Judy Comer, or it's just him and
his father early on, as well, and and then in

(17:20):
it in itself is remarkable because he's kind of put
into the middle of some real confronting and intense scenes.

Speaker 10 (17:30):
And pulls them and pulls it off really really well.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
I've also got to mention the music here as well,
as you would know with Danny Boyle, he loves his
electronic music. Of course, you had Born Slippy in Train Spotting.
You had all of the electronic mashes that he kind
of used in the Beach, including Moby's music being used,

(17:53):
but a lot of tracks remixed and stuff for the Beach. Here,
the same thing happens. He's pulled in an underground electronic
artist and really delivered this soundtrack that at times is
sickly sweet and other times is really really jarring. Like
I said before, with the soundscape, it kind of really

(18:15):
really hits you in the face at times. Going back
to the acting for a little bit, though, Julie Kummer
is amazing in this as the seriously ill aisler, while
Ralph Fines is memorable in a role that kind of
sees him channel the performance of Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now.
And there's so many questions being left about findes his

(18:38):
character that all I can say is it's kind of
good to know that the next film in this franchise
should be in cinemas around December January, because there's a
lot of questions left about that doctor and what he's
been doing, and of course there's a there's a finale
here with this film as well, involving Alfy Williams that

(18:59):
that feels very Quentin Tarantino like in a sense, and
it's weird because it's a completely different feel to the
rest of the film and you're kind of wondering where
is this going to go from here? Like it feels
like the next movie might have a different tone, not
one hundred percent sure. Now, if you're looking for a

(19:21):
way to sum up twenty eight years Later, I want
you to go back to The Beach, the movie Danny
Boyle's movie The Beach. If you remember all those artistic
scenes at the start of the movie featuring Robert Carlyle's character,
then you can easily kind of see that Boyle has
always had in him a film like twenty eight years Later.

(19:45):
Of course Alex Garland as well, it is kind of
really known for his alternative filmmaking, So the two of
them coming together here really shows a strong artistic side.
And it's that artistic side, and it's the breathtaking cinematography
of twenty eight years later that makes this such a

(20:06):
stunning and visceral experience. It'll stay with you as an
audience for a long time afterwards. The fact that this
also kind of uses some elements of the plot that
are answered but also leave some questions unanswered for the
next film shows again why Alex Galand is one of

(20:27):
the best screenwriters I feel that this generation has. This
is an amazing film. I don't think it's going to
be a film for everybody. If you're a popcorn kind
of film lover, you might struggle with this a little bit.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
It is more of an artistic film, but it is
pretty gruesome in parts.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
But yeah, if you're a Danny Boiler and Alex Gullen fan,
you were going to be in absolute heaven with twenty
eight years Later. I'm going to give this one four
out of five stars.

Speaker 8 (21:07):
Dad died. I took no Angel bade the doorway boy.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
She was a substinct boy.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
She wasn't beauty the boy auntie boy.

Speaker 16 (21:18):
In your Space Boys and Girls boyanstys boy.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
He had cannot.

Speaker 11 (21:25):
Lots of cost to you.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
Boy.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
You just grow what you said, come on, but.

Speaker 12 (21:32):
She smot you.

Speaker 8 (21:48):
Did boy died. I took no angel bad and the
doorway boy.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
She was a substinc boy.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
She was beauty the boy auntie in your real boys.

Speaker 15 (22:08):
Boys grown, she said, up, got the.

Speaker 12 (22:32):
Rod here.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Really be.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Again, you.

Speaker 22 (22:48):
Boys again.

Speaker 15 (23:16):
You gotta.

Speaker 21 (23:19):
Go.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
Sh I read bag everything sad.

Speaker 15 (23:30):
Jail ship.

Speaker 23 (24:03):
Ship ship mega mega Why did you gon mega megaga.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Shot think of some lamp mag mag mag.

Speaker 8 (24:33):
You wan.

Speaker 24 (25:26):
The money? The mother.

Speaker 10 (26:15):
In my dreams are dying all the time.

Speaker 18 (26:25):
Then I wakes cold Scott mind. I never meant to
got to.

Speaker 20 (26:41):
I never meant to lie.

Speaker 18 (26:48):
So this is good bye, This is good.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Move on, wom on.

Speaker 18 (27:15):
Tree, move on, Ja.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Show us.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Hello and welcome. We kind of had a bit of
a talk about what we were doing with Patreon, and
we realized that perhaps people out there who are new
and just discovering us might not know that much about
each of us. So we thought, so you get a
feel for who we all are, we would do a

(29:36):
little a few little segments this month where we basically
talk about our favorite films and our favorite directors and
our favorite actors and things like that, so you get
to know each of us a little more. So we're
going to kick off this series with favorite films, and Harley,

(29:58):
why don't you introduce yourself and tell us a little
bit about your favorite films.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Well, hello, I'm Harley. Obviously I'm the resident deviantna I. Yes,
I've always loved film and television and any form of storytelling.
Really love stories. This is why I went into writing
and so on. I grew up with a lot of

(30:25):
mixed influences that I think, you know, in the eighties
we kind of had that boom of interesting cartoons and
toy lines where all of a sudden, every toy had
its own cartoon series. So yeah, you know, I got
rather hooked. I used to love series like Doctor Who
and things like that. So I was growing up with

(30:47):
all these influencers. But I don't know, I think I
always loved seeing old movies on television as well, so
I'd get really wide variety if things that I would see.
I mean, my dad always loved action movies, so I
grew up seeing lots of action movies and ninja movies

(31:08):
and kung fu movies things like that. So I always
had an interest in those, big fan of Bruce Lee.
But then as time went on, I kept looking for
more and more things. I used to love the old
sort of black and white Hollywood films that would come
on in the middle of the day on TV, old musicals,

(31:29):
so I loved. I knew who people like Marilyn Monroe
and Laurel and Hardy and Aven Costello were. I had
a real interest in that. And then I discovered SBS
television and there was all these movies from around the world,
and my eyes were open. So I got this real
urge through my teens to adulthood that I just kept

(31:51):
trying to find every foreign film that I filmed that
I could. So there were a lot of French and
Chinese and Hong Kong movies that I would see lot of. So, yeah,
quite a diverse range there. You wanting to mention my favorite?

Speaker 25 (32:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, yeah, Well I guess as I said, growing up
with cartoons and things, I loved Transformers growing up, and
in nineteen eighty six they did Transformers the movie animated
feature and I still love that to this day. I
watch it newly every year. I think it's so good.

(32:31):
It's not written down completely to children. They really pushed it,
and they did get into trouble for some of it,
but I think it's a superior piece of marketing for
what was essentially a children's toy line. I think they

(32:51):
really pushed the boundaries and it's far superior to the
movies Michael Bay has been making over the past twenty years.
So yeah, that's one of my early influences. I also, oh,
probably one of my all time favorite films is from
German director katchavan Gania and it's called Bandits, not to

(33:18):
be confused with the Hollywood movies starring Bruce Willis. It's
actually these four women in prison who have formed a
band and they get this opportunity to play at the
Commissioner's Ball or something like that. But they kind of
abused in the van on the way to the concert,

(33:41):
and one of them has a real temper issue, so
she's been seething the whole ride because this guy's been
kind of harassing them, and as soon as he unlocks
her handcuffs, she beats the crap out of him, and
they're like, what are we going to do? What are
we going to do? So they decide to take the
van and go on the run. Then they get a

(34:01):
bit prideful and they see on the news that there's
two male prison skps on the run, you know, causing havoc,
and they're all over the news, whereas these four women aren't.
So two of them are like, we should get some notice.
Let's start getting noticed, and they actually reach out to

(34:23):
a news reporter to say, hey, come and interview. So
we'll say a secret time and place, we'll tell our story.
Why do men get all the attention? So suddenly they're
all over the news and they get this notoriety. So
they start performing all around Germany while they're on the run,

(34:45):
and everyone in the public loves them because they're not
you know, they're not bad. They just they're not going
around trying to rob people, hurt people or anything. They
just become their popular music phenomenon. But the police are
getting more and more angry trying to catch them. And yeah,
it's a really interesting story and a fantastic sounds fact.

(35:08):
So that one's like right at the top of my list.
But also anything by director One car Y. I absolutely
love his films. But if I'm going to go to
the top of the list, I'm going to get with
Bandits for now awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
So moving on now, Lee, Lee, why don't you introduce
yourself and tell us a little bit about your favorite films.

Speaker 26 (35:33):
Well, yes, you've introduced me, Lee, and just I've always
been a massive fan films as well, just like you, Halle.
And yeah, I do like some of the older films
as well, and I think I can't remember a time
of not watching film. It's just been a really big

(35:55):
part of my life and my family's life too. When
I think back of all the stuff I love, yeah,
obviously there's a really big long list, but I think
back of my childhood of things like The never Ending Story,

(36:15):
Willie Wonka and the Chopper Factory, all those sorts of
things and The Wizard of Oars. I just really was
drawn into I guess the creativity of those movies, and
I guess you know, the dreams that you can have

(36:37):
in life that can come from film and the magic
that film brings. You know, it's it's outside of reality
a bit as well. And for any writer who can
dream and imagine and they share it with us through film,
I think just it's just a magical thing. So yes,

(37:01):
I really love the joy and happiness that I brought
through films as well, and yeah, i'd love musicals too.
I really love musicals. I like that theater type production
that can be brought in through film as well. And
I have many, many memories of even Doris Day films

(37:24):
and Elvis films and all those sorts of things. And yeah,
watching the midday movies and the classic movies at night
as well and sneaking on the TV to watch those films.
And then of course I like, I really like horror
as well, so that's quite different to the musical than

(37:46):
the other film that I like that they're more magical film.
But yeah, really have a love for horror films, and
going back to Psycho and the Birds and things like that,
which you know, we've been looking at lately and rewatching.
But I guess if I have to pick an old
time favorite, I think this is really hard because there

(38:10):
are so many films in the world that I love,
and I think I'm quite an eclectic film lover. I
love pretty much every genre or films that sit within
every genre. So I'm going to pick out two. Now,
one's a series, and you know, and people will probably like,
you're such a teenager, you will never grow up, But

(38:32):
I love the Harry Potter series for how magical it
is and how exciting it is and how creative it is.
And these are movies that even as an adult, I
go back and watch, if not every year, every other year,
and I will watch the whole series and I will
watch them back to back if I can. I just, yeah,

(38:57):
I think that the creatures within an amazing I think
it's just such that amazing world where you're you want
to be a part of it and you're drawn into it. Now,
the other one that I really love is Titanic, and
I think the reason I love it so much is
number one, It's obviously based on a true story, but

(39:18):
obviously there's loads of creativity within it as well. And
the lengths that James Cameron went to to film this
with his underwater machines, the rovers that go under and
film the actual Titanic ship where it has sunk, is

(39:39):
just incredible. There's just so much effort and years that
have gone into the making of the film, and the
detail of it is unbelievable. Of course, the great acting
as well. You've got great actors there, Kate Winslet and
Leonardo DiCaprio, amongst everything else. That James Cameron's done with

(40:04):
this film, it'll be something that I will always go
back and watch again. And yeah, I just I can't
recommend it highly enough. So they're probably my favorites. But
obviously there's just so many films out there that just
have special memories in my heart.

Speaker 18 (40:22):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Actually, like you brought up the fact that, yeah, you've
got a series there, Harry Potter, that was really like
me growing up. I watched Star Wars over and over
and over. If I could, if I could rent all
the films from the video library at once, I would.
I would literally go in every week whenever our family would,

(40:43):
you know, pick a movie to rent. I look straight
for the Star Wars and nine times out of ten
they were out. And you know, someone at the desk
would say, oh, I know they've been borrowed out. Sorry,
but we've got Star Trek and I would just give
them this look like what. And so if I didn't
have Star Wars, it was a WHOOPI Goldberg film? That

(41:05):
was it repeatedly every time I would, I would pie
that exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
And Kyle, do you want to intro yourself and tell
us a little bit about your favorite films.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
Oh yeah, hello everybody, Kyle. Yeah, I'm pretty much the
same as the rest of my co hosts here where Like, Yeah,
I've been just a fan of movies for such a
long time. They were a major part of of my
life growing up. Of course, just there was always kind

(41:39):
of a source of comfort, and there's something I kind
of I got from my dad with with his his
fondness for movies and TV shows and stuff like that.
Of course, my dad's taste some maybe a bit more commercial,
but yeah, yeah, that's why I eventually kind of broke

(42:02):
away from that and started started trying some different movies
in my in my teens, and yeah, just seeing how
how interesting and creative different types of filmmakers into types
of movies can be. So I've got just such a

(42:24):
wide variety of different movies that I enjoy. But I
guess my a cheating kind of favorite film would probably
be Lord of the Rings. I just considered that to
be the entire film, the entire trilogy, I guess to

(42:46):
be one film, And I know that's kind of cheating,
but that it's always one I've got to mention because
just how many times I've rewatched it and how much
I've enjoyed it. But if I was to sum up
just just one in particular film that I really have enjoyed,
it would probably be American Psycho, as as odd as

(43:07):
that probably is. I mean, it's a kind of a
controversial book by Brett eastern allis about a wealthy New
York Wall Street executive called Patrick Bateman who's also a
psychopath that in his in his private life, and it's

(43:29):
just kind of the the conflict between him being completely
twisted and insane on the inside, but all that matters
is the the beauty that he exudes on the outside,

(43:50):
and it kind of, I mean, it taps into the
same kind of thing that RoboCop tapped into as far
as Wall Street and rich people and these people I
consider themselves to be sharks and come on taking on
like I've got to kill the opposition and stuff like that,

(44:13):
but it's in the movie it's actually killing them, So
I I really it's a movie that I really enjoy
because there's no other movie that I have rewatched as
many times and been able to find something original or

(44:35):
something new to appreciate about it every single time. It's
directed by Mary Harron, who directed I shot Andy Waholl
and a few other films like that, but and written
by Grenavie Turner, who in I don't want to decrease

(44:57):
what she did, but like more or less, I think
why why the script of the movie is so good
is because it is almost a one for one recreation
of Bretty ston Ellis's novel. It was also one of
the first novels that I ever ever read as well,
and it's one that I can really I appreciate that

(45:18):
it's a movie that so many people are confused by,
or they they don't believe whether he actually has killed
all these people, or he has he was just imagining
it or what. But what I really appreciate about the

(45:40):
movie is that I think that it kept the gist
of the book that you don't know that the entire
point is that he is a psycho. He is so
insane that he himself no longer has any grip on
reality of what he is actually doing and what what
he hasn't done on he's just imagining. I mean, it's

(46:02):
it's got a great cast with like close any Reach Witherspoon,
Willem Defoe, Jared Leto a lot of the actors that
I never I'd never seen before watching American Psycho and
their actors that have become huge since then. But of

(46:23):
course Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman. I think this is
the movie that he made like five years before Batman begins,
and this is the movie that made me This is
kind of a topic for another another topic that we're
going to be talking about later, but this is the
movie that made him my personal favorite actor because just

(46:46):
how much he was able to encapsulate this character and
to make him completely despicable and completely unlikable, but still
you can't help like him at the same time. It
was really just incredible. It's a movie that I I

(47:06):
try to watch.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Like you Harley with.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
With Transformers, and yeah, it's it's a movie that I
just really watch like every year, every few months, and yeah,
almost without fail. I've always been able to pick out
something just another little quirk of the movie that I've
never never noticed before and something that I really appreciate
about the film, and it's something very different, and yeah,

(47:35):
just I think that's kind of yeah, it really is
my favorite movie.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I love how you paralleled that you know, American Psycho
remind you of RoboCop, that that was a great parallel.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
It's Wall Street.

Speaker 10 (47:52):
It's just something that like, yeah, when I guess, yeah,
RoboCop beat the I think even yeah, that even beat
the publishing of the book. And but yeah, the whole
just that whole Wall Street thing of yuppies basically killing

(48:13):
each other. Yeah, it's nothing. That's another thing that like, yeah,
I've been watching a movie for like two decades before
I even made that kind of connection. Yeah, that's that's
that's why I appreciate this movie. I appreciate all movies
that I can watch multiple times and pick up new
stuff on it every time, just something that's in the background.

(48:34):
But yeah, American Psycho is definitely my personal favorite for that.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
That's That's actually an interesting topic that we should look
at later is books that became films. In fact, I
don't think people realize how many films we watch were
actually books. Lee and I spoke of all the old
Hollywood films. I used to watch most of them, like
Psycho based on a book, which was kind of based
on true things as well. But yeah, it's and it's

(49:03):
interesting that you point out there this is so closely
follows the actual book, which is pretty rare in cinema.
They always want to change something. Just look at the
Percy Jackson series in the Flat.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
And also there's a lot of films out there that
people don't realize are based on books because of like
the difference that they are, Like Ten Things I Hate
About You is actually based on a Shakespeare play.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, yeah, so they like it's nice. Yeah, it's not
even like what Basluma did with Romeo and Juliet. They've
completely reworked it. But yeah, that's what it's based on.
So but I guess that's me up now. So I'm
Dave g And yeah, I've been reviewing movies for nearly
twenty five years now, which is kind of scary. But

(49:48):
before that even I was a huge film fan. I
grew up with parents who on a Friday and Saturday
night would just bundle me into the car and we'd
go to a cinema like the Asta or what is
Cameo now up in Belgrave or there was actually a
drive in just around the corner from where we were
from where I grew up, so and yeah, I can

(50:11):
remember seeing like a whole variety of films. Then things
like Bushfire Christmas, which is an old Australian film, the
Albi Mangles documentaries. My dad was huge into them, so
we used to go and watch them even et. My
dad used to basically used me to watch films that

(50:32):
he wanted to watch. So I remember when Tim Burton's
Batman came out, Dad kind of made the excuse that
he was taking me to the cinema to go and
see it because they actually had the Batmobile from the
film there. So yeah, So I grew up watching stuff
like that, and then I got a TV in my

(50:53):
room when I was very very young, and then my
my evolution of what kind of films I was watching
kind of change when that happened, because I would go
from watching the Ivan Hutchinson and Bill Collins presents, like
classic movies, so then watching the really late night cult
films that would be on Channel ten, like things like
Earth Girls Are Easy and stuff like that, like really

(51:16):
kind of trashy b grades to grade films.

Speaker 18 (51:19):
And then.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
At high school, my best friend was an absolute film buff,
to the point where we used to borrow his dad's
video camera and go and shoot our own films on
weekends with our friends. But him and I kind of
developed this scheme where we would go to a cinema,
buy a ticket to a kid's film, and then check
the cleaning roster to see what other films were on

(51:41):
and sneak in to like adult films. So we kind
of like got our fix of Pulvahoven movies and stuff
like that, like in the late nineties, and so yeah,
just evolved from there.

Speaker 21 (51:53):
So when I was at.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Film school, I think I started to discover even more
alternative theater and that's an alternative film, and that's probably
where my three favorites come from. So my three favorite
films of all time are Trainspotting, The Beach and Chasing Amy.

Speaker 21 (52:10):
The Beach.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I just absolutely love everything about I love the cast,
I love the screenplay, the way Danny Boyle directed it,
the location, the soundtrack. Lee and I actually traveled to
where it was filmed a few years ago and found
that it really was the paradise that they made out
it to be in the film Trainspotting. I don't know

(52:34):
what it was about that film that made me fall
in love with it, but I remember somebody turning up
one day when I was a film school and said, oh,
you've got to watch this film. And they lent me
the VHS copy of it, and I watched it and
just instantly fell in love with it, just how edgy
it is. The characters again, the soundtrack is just absolutely amazing.

(52:57):
And then the same person actually introduced me Aaing Amy
as well. I'd already seen more Rats and Clerks, and
then yeah, this person introduced me to Chasing Amy. But yeah,
it's kind of hard, but yeah, they're the three that
I go back to whenever I need inspiration for my
own screenwriting or anything like that. But yeah, I've watched

(53:21):
a ton of movies over the years because during my
high school and film school days, I also first of all,
worked in a video library and then worked in a
DVD store, so there was constantly movies on when I
was at work as well. So yeah, I guess that's
how mine has evolved over the years, from family films

(53:45):
with my parents to the more alternative kind of films.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
And I can attest to how much David liked Trained Spotting.
Ever since I've known him, he's listed that film as
his favorite and talked about it over.

Speaker 22 (54:00):
Me every day.

Speaker 11 (54:03):
Now.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Lee and I have got a really close friend who's Scottish,
so her and I like just get together and like
quote it all the time as well.

Speaker 10 (54:12):
Just big b lines over and over again, thinking.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, so I guess that's all of our favorite films.
So I hope people have got to know us a
little bit better through what we've talked about.

Speaker 21 (54:28):
At the moment. Maybe you've picked.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
One of the people now on the panel where it's
like I'm like them, that's what I kind of like.
So now you'll know to look out for their reviews
and things like that. So all right then, so we'll
say bye to you all for now when we'll be
when we'll be back soon with another segment in my dreams.

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Speaker 11 (59:09):
Well.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
A couple of weeks on the show, and a couple
of weeks ago on the show, Harley actually suggested that
our listeners out there could write in and tell us
their favorite movies that have been rebooted off animated films,
real live action remakes. Of course, people out there also

(59:30):
decided to let us know about live action remakes of
cartoon animated television series as well. So we're going to
go through some of the ones now that people suggested. Harley,
this was an absolutely great idea that you had, and
of course that was because of some of the ones
that we've had recently, like snow White, and there's just

(59:54):
been so many just recently. I think Disney are working
through their back catalog at the moment, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Everything they've done in the past is now becoming alive. Actually,
well except for one or two that have slightly racist,
store you know, not very modern connotations, which they don't
want to talk about anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I don't think we're going to be hearing Song of
the South anytime soon, but with the one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
If you're willing to do a song of the South
remake it send it into the comments.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Now, I'm just thinking of a couple of directors out
there that probably would moving along by far. The one
that most people wrote and said that they love as
a live action remake based on an animated series or
from an animated film was Detective Pikachu A.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, I didn't think of that one. That's a good call.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Another one that got quite a lot as well. And
I have to say this is one of my favorites
as well, because this was a movie that I loved
when I was a kid, the animated one, and I
also loved the book that it was based on. But
the Pete's Dragon remake that came out a few years ago,
which was an exceptional remake.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
You know, you're probably like me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
There's some of these movies that when you hear they're
coming up, you're like, oh, no, what are they going
to do to something that I loved when I was
a child. I'm sure you have. I had that about
Pete's Dragon so much because I was one of those
kids when my mum told me that I would go
into the library and hire Pete's Dragon as a book,

(01:01:34):
and then the next week we'd take it back, and
then the week after I'd go and grab it again,
like it was like a revolving door. And then when
I found out that there was an animated movie, I
just fell in love with it, and I even had
You're probably I don't know if you're old enough to
remember these, you should be, because I do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Do you remember the books on vinyl record? You'd have
like a little reader book and then you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah, well I didn't have Actually no, I did have
a couple that were on the record, but I think
I got them a bit later when they were kind
of like being thrown out. But I had all the
ones on cassette. So there were usually things that I
already had like cartoons of but I still wanted the
cassette and book cassett and storybook kind of package as well,

(01:02:24):
so that I remember, like Robotech for whoever remembers Robotech,
And I think I had like the he Man and
Shearer what was it called Secret of the Sword. It
was like the Origin of Shira, So I had he
Man and Sharer in it, and I had the storybook
version of that with a cassette, and then would have
the little tone to say ding dong, turn the page.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yeah, I had the peat Dragon of that amongst other
Disney ones, but yeah, I remember that was one that
I really loved. But yeah, they did do a really
good job of the remake of that a few years ago,
one that did get a lot, as well as one
that you mentioned the other day, Maleficent, Harley, do you
want to talk a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
About see that that was an inspired one. I think
everything that Disney has done since then is just trying
to capitalize on the success of Maleficent, which I can
understand why, but I don't think they've been as successful
or tried as hard as they did on that one.

(01:03:27):
And maybe that's thanks to like Angelina Joelie for what
she did and the input she had in there, because
that took the classic, you know, sleeping Beauty story, but
took it looked at it from a different angle. It's like,
let's look at the villain rather than a two dimensional

(01:03:48):
character this time. Let's find out why she's doing what
she's doing. Let's let's get that real reason behind it,
Let's build the character. And that was so inspired. I
think that is why everyone loves it so much. They
did so much with it, and a lot of things
now are just kind of let's retread old footsteps, let's

(01:04:11):
not change it too much, or let's just do something
that's a bit I don't know, we just think will
be good for public opinion. I don't think they have
as much inspiration as they did for that movie, and
that still deserves plenty of acclaim.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I think, yeah, because I also liked snow White and
The Huntsman. I thought that worked as a film as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
And again, yeah, but snow White is like a classic story.
It's not. We're not remaking like Disney's Snow White, except
they did recently, which whatever else.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Now we have another one here that a lot of
people said that is one of their favorites, and it's
an Australian film. I'm happy to say Charlotte's Web, of
course was remade. Oh it must be nearly twenty years
ago now it haven't makes me feel old, but yeah,
with Magnus Gavanski and a whole bunch of other Australian
actors and actresses in it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Of course, wasn't that just Babe.

Speaker 10 (01:05:16):
Milan.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Now that's a film that a lot of people here
in Australia didn't actually get a chance to watch because
it came out during COVID times. I remember the only
way I could go and see it at that time
was in the drive in theater. So if you didn't
live near a drive in theater at that time, you
didn't get a chance to see it. But basically, the
Disney animation Milan was reimagined as a massive epic Asian

(01:05:44):
full on battle sequences and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I don't know if you've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
That one, Harley, I haven't. I was kind of curious,
but then I've always had this thing with Milan about
trying to figure out where it's spooked to be set.
I feel like it mixes too many things.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Another one, Yeah, another one that we've got a lot
of people talking about as well was The Sorcerer as Apprentice,
which of course was based on the Mickey Mouse Fantasia character.
That came out again, I'm guessing about a decade ago,
uh now as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
A lot of member that one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Yeah, I think Nicholas Cage was in it, if I'm correct. Yeah,
Nicholas Cage was in it. So yeah, that did come out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I mean the way he acts is probably like a cartoon.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Some people liked the one that I think I talked
about last week on air that was an m Night
Sharmalan movie that I felt was a bit of a flop.
Some people out there seem to like it, The Last Airbender.
Some people have said that they actually, I really enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
That, so I actually did. I like that. I don't
have any hate for it. But there is, from what
I've heard, a bit of a thing out there about
not being happy with it, And I'm like, what was
the problem exactly? Because I hadn't seen all of the

(01:07:24):
Last Actually I still haven't seen all of the Last
Airbend Avatar cartoon, but I've been working my way through
it and watching that, and then you know, Netflix recently
did a TV live action series of What as well.
They follow the same thing. Like, I don't think there's

(01:07:44):
anything worthy of hate about it. I found it good.
I mean, it's harder to condense a whole chunk of
a TV series into a single movie, but I don't
think it was that bad personally. I quite liked it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I'm like that with the Ben Ten live action movie
that they made. I actually didn't mind it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I know a lot of people out there hated it,
but I didn't mind it, and The other one I
didn't mind as well was the The Power Rangers film
from a few years ago, the live action remake.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I I actually The Rangers is live action.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Yeah, But the one that they made a couple of
years back or yeah, probably be about a decade now,
was based off the animated series.

Speaker 21 (01:08:30):
But I liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Animated series.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Yeah, there was a wasn't there an animated version of
it that came out as well, Not that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I'm aware of. It's all been because what they do
is they get the Japanese series Super Sentai and they
dub it and then for the out of costume sequences,
they write new script for the American actors. So it's
all it's all very kind of cheaply made in that sense.

(01:09:04):
But there have been comic book series that they've done
which have had kind of more mature storylines than things
as well. As far as I know, there hasn't been
an animated thing, but I think it probably was looked
at at some stage.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yeah. The other one that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
A lot of people also did was Cruella, which I
guess is kind of like Malificent in a sense that
it looks.

Speaker 21 (01:09:32):
At the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yeah, they wanted to go down that angle and see
if they could lightning could strike twice.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Yeah, so I'm just having a look. I just looked
up about the movie. So apparently it was based off
an animated special. It says, I don't know about that one.
There was the live action television show which premiered in
nineteen ninety three, and while it didn't spawn an animated

(01:10:02):
spin off, during its initial run, there was an animated special,
and that's what that last film was based on.

Speaker 26 (01:10:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
See, I actually didn't mind the film. The only real
criticism I had for it was towards the end. You know,
they spent the whole time trying to learn how to
use their new powers and stuff, and suddenly they get
to use what they called the Zords, the big mecha
dinosaur things, and within five minutes they figure out how

(01:10:30):
to use it. They've gone from not being in control
to suddenly, okay, we can fight this big bad entity.
Now we're fine. That was the only kind of rush
part in the script that annoyed me, But otherwise I
thought that was good. I was looking forward to a sequel.
But yeah, Power Ranges is very kind of up in

(01:10:50):
the air at the moment. Has Bro brought the rights
to it, and they had big plans and then they realized,
we've got no money, so let's lease it back out
to who used to and the toy rights and they
can do what they want with it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
So I just found it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
It's it's actually weird that it's actually weird that they
have decided to make a movie based off it because
it's an unofficial animated series.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
So I'm looking it up right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Well, there's a lot of fan made power around stuff
out there. What it is, yea, And yeah, there's a
lot of that stuff is so popular amongst the fandom.
It's sort of like it. It has the characters grow
up a bit and you know, puts a new spin
on things. Sometimes it's quite darker.

Speaker 25 (01:11:40):
There's a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
A mini series type thing out there somewhere online. You'll
probably find it on YouTube where it's really dark and
it's so popular amongst the fan base. So yeah, there's
all sorts of stuff being made out there, and I
kind of love that approach to it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
But yes, the movie that I'm talking about came out
in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Yeah, so if you want to go and check that
one out as well. So we've got some more here
as well. I'm just bringing up the the second page.
A lot of people talked about Masters of the Universe
from nineteen eighty seven, Harley. I guess that's another one
that you would be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Really I was all over that. That was one of
the films I actually saw at the cinema. It was funny,
like you grew up with the cartoon and there's a
certain law behind it, and you as a child, you
expect the characters to be a certain way and things

(01:12:46):
to happen in a certain way. The movie kind of
turned that completely on as heed. But I still enjoyed it,
even though I did complain that, you know, certain things
weren't right, and where's this character? Where's battle? And you know,
it kind of didn't have that budget. I mean, it
was supposed to, but the film company is notorious for

(01:13:10):
all the stuff they promised but never kind of pulled
off in the end. But I don't know, I kind
of look back quite fondly at that now, like there
are problems with it, absolutely no doubt about that. Everyone
who speaks about it now kind of says, oh, we

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hate that it was set on Earth. It should be
set on Attorney with all those fantastic characters rather than
bringing them to Earth, And what are they doing with
the one that they're making now? They're making Adam grow
up on Earth before he becomes angman. It's like, oh,
you didn't learn from that last one. So I know

(01:13:53):
that's already getting a bit of kickback from that. But
thing else looks kind of promising so far, so people
are getting a little bit hyped for it. But I
don't know. I didn't mind the Dolph Lundgren nineteen eighty seven. Yeah,
I kind of look. I rewatch it now and then

(01:14:15):
just to kind of have a look, and it takes
me back. I remember the thing I thought of as
a kid was at what point is he Prince Adam?
And at what point is he man? Because he's just
he man through the whole thing. So sometimes he wears
a cape and sometimes he takes the cape off, and
in my childhood it was like, okay, when he puts
the cape on his Prince Adam, when he takes it off,

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is he man?

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
A few people actually asked about Voltron as well, and
we don't know much about that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
At the mos I'm supposed to be doing something which
they are doing one. Yeah, I mean they've done a
few sort of animated remakes and stuff, which you know,
the dream Works one from a few years ago. That
series wasn't bad. I didn't hate that at all because
they really went in depth with that. So if they

(01:15:07):
really work on the writing and not just a you know,
special effects spectacle, I think it could be really good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
A few people also mentioned the Inspector Gadget film.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I totally forgot about that. I still loved the cartoon
when I was little.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
That came out as well. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I got in serious trouble with my dad and got
banned from watching it because I decided to go out
one day and grab my mom's clothesline and yell out
Gadget Copter and let it spin around and it fell
over and I got into a lot of troubles. There's
also the Josie and the Pussy Cuts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I loved that movie that.

Speaker 18 (01:15:52):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
It's completely silly, but there was so much in that
film that is worth loving. I don't know, did you
love that one?

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Did?

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Yeah, no, I've actually I've got a poster of that somewhere,
but yeah, no, I did. I really really loved I
think the other one that kind of came out of us.
Probably a little bit earlier than that as well. That
a lot of people mentioned was the Flintstones movie of course,
with Rosie O'Donnell and John Goodman and people like that
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
So yeah, and then there was like they did another
iteration of those with.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Yeah, but who was the guy from oh what was
that full Monty? He was in it something Addie?

Speaker 18 (01:16:38):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Mark Eddie? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think he was the one
in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
That's right, Yeah, because Steven Spielberg was the producer of
that one as well, so was he. Yeah, But I think, yeah,
I think that's kind of coming to an end of
what ones. I should ask though, if you had to
tell people out there to go and watch one, what
movie would you tell them to go and watch?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Look, Maleficent absolutely still stands the test of time. Look,
I wrote down a few of like what I could
think of that was out there. I just saw How
to Train Your Dragon and I thought that was really good.
But I would only be worried, like if they want
to do sequels on that, if they're just going to

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remake the animations. Again, I don't know if there's value
in that because they're kind of just doing the same thing.
But if they do something new and different, it might
be quite exciting without you know, going against what's already
established law. But I thought that movie was really good.

(01:17:43):
That's another one. They did a Ghost in the Shell
movie with Scarlett Johansson. I eventually watched it, but I
was really against it for a while. I'm like, they
should be Japanese. Of course, there's there are the Transformers movies.

(01:18:05):
I've mostly hated them, love Transformers all my life that
those movies were an insult. And speaking of Michael Bay
killing my childhood Ninja Turtles, A.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Few people mentioned Bumblebee as well in the chats.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
That they see Bumblebee was kind of the good one.
It kind of reset things a bit and made the
Transformers look like the Transformers we know, so that a
lot of people have love for that one, but I
don't know. I kind of think they just need to
do a hard reset at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, I think for me my
two that I would definitely tell people to go and
watch with Pete Dragon if you loved the original. Yeah,
that's interesting because of course the original animation that was
for kids. Had Puffed the Magic Dragon as the as

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the theme song, but they kind of changed it to
Pete the Magic Dragon. But the funny bit is that
song's about drugs, so it's kind of weird that that's right.
But yeah, for me, also Snake Eyes, the twenty twenty
one movie, which the yeah, they were trying to reboot
G I. Joe when they did an origin story for

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Snake Eyes, and to me, I thought it was an
absolutely brilliant film.

Speaker 21 (01:19:30):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
It had a more Asian flavor to it in that
it was a kind of a martial arts film. It
had people like Henry Golding in it, Andrew Koji, Samara Weaving,
Ico Uce was in it as well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
But yeah, like I still had some problems with it,
but you know, it could have been a lot worse,
to be honest, Like, I think they've had a bit
of a mess with the G I. Joe films. It's
a funny thing with the Hasbro properties, They've got some
promising stuff, but I don't think they've pulled any of
them off quite well, like they did Gem and the

(01:20:08):
Holograms movie, which just seemed to almost completely dishonor the
original kind of cartoon based on the toy line all
but you know, speaking of Pete's dragon and stuff that
made me think of Popeye Robin Williams. Yes, that was
a good one. So but yeah, I guess that there's

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so many more things we could talk about and the
flip side of animated series and things based on live action,
but we'll be here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Forever, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Well, we better end it there, but yeah, certainly keep
your suggestions coming in on our socials as well. But
for now it's time to sit back and enjoy another
track from a movie soundtrack.

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Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
What's time now to take a look at one of
the biggest movies of this year. Director Joseph Kazinsky really
really showed the world what he was capable of with Maverick,
so a lot of people have been kind of keen
to see what he's going to do.

Speaker 25 (01:29:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
He's tackling the world of Formula one car racing, a
worldwide popular sport that actually hasn't had very many movies
made about it over the years. In fact, we don't
get a lot of car racing films full stop, so
it's very interesting to see that someone has finally tackled
one of the world's biggest sports now. In this Kazinsky's

(01:29:58):
version of events for this film, which is also co
written by Iran Krueger, it is set amongst the fictitious
team in Formula one car racing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
This team has had no success at all. It's owned
by Ruben played by Javier Bardem, and time is ticking
on this team. Is he going to win a race
at all or even finish a race? If not, it
looks like he's going to have to sell the team

(01:30:32):
at the end of the year. He's got one of
the hottest young drivers on the grid Joshua Pierce played
by dam Zen Idris, but the car is no good.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
If you're a fan of.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Formula one racing, you'll know that there's always those cars
that finish right at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
This is one of those teams.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
So to change that, Ruben decides to go after one
of his best friends who was also an ex rival
of his in Formula one car races, Sonny Hayes played
by Brad pitt Now. Sonny is a drinking, gambling, fun
loving guy who doesn't have a serious ride anywhere. In fact,
he goes from category to category looking for cheap rides

(01:31:15):
to just pay enough money so that he can drive
to the next event. So when Ruben offers him the
contract to come back to Formula one car racing some
nearly thirty years after he last drove a Formula one car,
Sonny is at first not sure, but then decides to
take up the challenge. However, that's where the next problem

(01:31:35):
was because Joshua doesn't want to listen to a driver
that he calls and never was. Meanwhile, the Formula one press,
as you will all know again if you watch Formula
one car racing, are like vultures they're circling this team
that can't win, and they're also circling Sonny, who they

(01:31:55):
kind of suggest is worse for the team than what
he could ever be anywhere else. So, Kyle, this is
an interesting film because, of course we'll talk a little
bit about the making of it later on, because they
made this film in a very very unique way. But
what's your first initial thoughts of F one.

Speaker 10 (01:32:16):
Yeah, I was excited going into this one because Joseph
Kazinsky is it's almost like gearing up to be like
the next James Cameron or something, because the last few
films that he's made have been really visual, real huge
cinematic experiences. I mean, he made Tron Legacy, which is

(01:32:40):
just that's like the best movie that I think to
see in three D. Like it's better than Avatar, It's
better than like almost any other movie that I ever
saw in three D, and just what like, it's one
that I love to go and see in Imax whenever
they happen to be playing it again. He also made Oblivion,
which was another great action sci fi Tom Cruise movie,

(01:33:03):
and then of course in made Top Gun Maverick, which,
as you say, like put the actors and put the
audience pretty much in the in the seat of a
fighter jet. So I was really excited to see what
this movie would be like, basically as somebody who doesn't
really know anything about Formula one. But yeah, I just

(01:33:26):
I really wanted to see what it would how it
would go into that whole world. And I think he's
kind of kept the same pacing as Top Gun Maverick,
where there's a really high octane, explosive action sequence which
is just like a car chase, I say car chase,
but like a race scene, then the drama, then race scene,

(01:33:48):
then drama than the race scene. So the pacing of
the movie is really good, and the story is actually
really good. It's actually a very similar story to Top
Gun Maverick in that it's another kind old dog character,
this time played by Brad Pitt, who probably should be
a lot higher up in the in the game than

(01:34:09):
he actually is, but based on his own his own issues,
he kind of is happy to be Dan where he is,
but he's still got a lot of things that he
can teach the younger next generation. And yeah, so it
was really entertaining.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
Really.

Speaker 10 (01:34:27):
Yeah, just basically, if you're a huge fan of topic
of a Maverick and a lot of people are yeah,
this is clearly the It really ticks all the same boxes,
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
So I really had a good time being someone that
does watch car racing and loves car racing. I found
the interesting thing about this was how relatable it was.
Like we've seen teams like that. It's called Apex the
team in this, but we've seen teams like euro Brun
over the years that have been just dreadful teams like

(01:34:58):
I think that. I think euro Brune only lasted two
years before they before they disbanded because it's an expensive sport,
like to I think I read somewhere recently to set
up a Formula One team you need about one hundred
and fifty hundred and sixty million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
So if you've got a.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Team out there that's smashing up cars and not finishing races,
I mean we even had there was a team a
few years ago. I'm trying to think who it was
that set it up. There was a rich Australian businessman
has set up a team and called it Team Australia
and it was a flop.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Yeah, it was a flop as well.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Like but we've also seen a lot of dodgy drivers
over the years as well, Like I remember there's one
driver and kind of before my time, but he was
so bad that Formula one banned him because he was
constantly so slow that the the cars in front would
catch up to him and lap him multiple times. So

(01:36:00):
it's very relatable. Like there's one moment in here where
they're talking about F one is a body banning Apex
because their cars are like a wrecking ball kind of thing.
And then when Sunny starts racing, he deliberately causes crashes
at times to make a point or to try and

(01:36:22):
help his teammate and stuff like that. So they're all
relatable things. But that naturalism then also transpires into how
they shot this film, because if you've gone on to
our website and read the interview with Joseph Kazinski, these
guys were if they were going to make this movie,
they said they didn't want it to be like Driven

(01:36:43):
with Sylvester Stallone, where it was all fake and they
didn't want to use CGI, so they literally bought Formula
one cars and then put them onto tracks not during races,
but during practice and qualifying and stuff like that. But

(01:37:04):
they did actually film in pitt Lane during races, So
there's times in this movie where the crew are watching
the cars go past and they are actually cars being
driven by Lewis Hamilton, uh and and people like that,
like it's it's amazing. And even one of the crashes
in this I'm pretty sure is based on a crash

(01:37:25):
from a couple of years ago as well. So for me,
that's just it's amazing. And also the fact that they
haven't made up fictitious drivers either, Like there's references in
here to Lewis Hamilton, there's references to actual teams like
the Ferrari team. There's different times in this where Ruben

(01:37:50):
has to do interviews with other team principals or team
managers and they've actually got team managers from real teams
in Formula One to be there, and it's like that
kind of it's dangerous to do that in a sense
because what happens if someone is a really bad actor
or something like that, Like it's not even I mean,

(01:38:13):
you take young drivers like Piastree and people like that,
and they're born showmen, so you kind of expect drivers
to be able to act, but you don't expect team
principles to be able to act like it's it's weird,
like it's I know, a few years ago in One
Tree Hill they had the basketball the basketball theme of
that they had a couple of NBA players and a

(01:38:36):
couple of college players try to make guest appearances and
they were really bad. So it's like it's a brave
thing to do, but also you're risking your cast. But
not only that, but I was thinking the whole time,
imagine if Brad Pitt had like accidentally driven into a
Ferrari or something like, you're talking tens of millions of
dollars worth of damage that these guys could do and

(01:38:58):
kill someone. Like one of the things that Joseph Kazinski
said during the interview was, oh no, no, no, they
weren't doing the three hundred kilometers now, they were only
doing about two sixty two seventy. It's that's still going
to kill someone like. And we saw a crash a
few years ago in Formula one where a car completely
slowed down. Another car came up behind it, it was

(01:39:19):
traveling at top speed, hit it and it almost killed
both drivers. So yeah, to have Brad Pitt and Dam's
and Idris actually out there amongst these qualified guys. It
was like, Man, I'm so surprised nothing went horribly wrong,
but I'm glad that they did it because it looks
so good on screens.

Speaker 10 (01:39:38):
Yeah, Like, I think the whole the sense of authenticity
of the movie, like it definitely comes from the film's producer,
who is Luis low Sandil again, who had a massive
role in the actual making of the movie rot Like,
not only does he show up in the movie, as
you say, like kind.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Of as a.

Speaker 10 (01:40:00):
Not not exactly an antagonist, but like somebody that they've
got to, like if they want to win, they're going
to have to beat the seven times well like play
a champion, well drivers champion, but if on top of that,
like he actually did do a lot of the stunt
driving and a lot of the stand ins and doubles,

(01:40:22):
and he did a lot of the work behind the
scenes of making this movie. And apparently he I think
the relationship between him and Joseph Kazinski goes back because
he was initially supposed to have a role in Top
Gun Maverick as a pilot, but apparently they he had

(01:40:42):
to he had to pull out because of scheduling or something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Like that.

Speaker 10 (01:40:46):
So no, it's just it was really I think having
him involved really helped really sell This is such an
authentic kind of kind of movie, just lit the whole
way that it's been put together. Like I know that
Formula one it's kind of having a bit of a

(01:41:10):
maybe not resurgence, but I mean Netflix's Formula one Reach
to Survive show that has kind of that's in like
its seventh season now or seventh or eighth season, and
a lot of people who never would have been interested
in Formula one before have kind of become really interested

(01:41:30):
in it because of that show. And I think that's
going to happen doubly so with this movie. Yeah, and
so yeah, you just can like even if the movie,
you could, you could say that it's basically a Formula
one advertisement in the same way the top Gun Maverick
was an advertisement for the US Navy. But it's a
hell of an advertisement because it just makes it it

(01:41:51):
makes everything look just so exciting and like, yeah, well
I even bought a lego Formula.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Having said that, I reckon that's the one thing that
dates this movie is that, like, yeah, Lewis Hamilton and
Max Forstappan are the drivers that they're trying to beat,
because if you're a Formula One fan for this year,
you'll know that both of those drivers are now kind
of well, the Stapen's third at the moment, but Hamilton's
about six or seventh on the driver's championship, and it's
actually Oscar Piastre, the Australian driver, and Lando Norris, who

(01:42:24):
Piastre gets a mentioned. I don't think Lando Norris even
gets a mention. They're the two top drivers at the moment.
So it's like, as they say at one time in
the movie, a lot can change in Formula One in
twelve months. And that's one of the things that's kind
of dating the movie now because it's it's like when.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
You play a video game and.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
If you play, if you play one of the car
racing games that actually uses actual drivers' names, it kind
of dates it because it's like, oh, that driver's not
driving anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Or with that team or yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
But but that's a small thing. And like the other
thing too, like actually filming on race weekends. Not only
does it add great atmosphere, but it also, I reckon
would have made this a bit cheaper to shoot, because
suddenly you're not having to use like CGI to create
like the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
You can just send a drone off.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
So but I don't know like this movie it I
think that's the thing that blows me away the most
about this is that it's just how ambitious. Like a
lot of people say these days are there's nothing new
in cinema, and I think Kazinski is actually proving that wrong.
Like first of all, he put actors into fighter jets
for Maverick, and now he's actually putting like Brad Pitt

(01:43:40):
and people like that into Formula one race cars and
filming on weekends.

Speaker 10 (01:43:45):
So the butt like they're saying, there were estimations that
the budget for this is like three hundred million, which
I think Jerry Brockrami says is completely off. But yeah,
it's also because there's so much goddamn placement in this movie.
I think they actually did get a lot of a
lot of a lot of the why I think they

(01:44:07):
could be so ambitious is because they actually did get
a lot of sponsorships. And I mean it all feels natural.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Which fits with Formula One, Like if you think of
Formula one teams, people know, oh yeah, you've got McLaren Mercedes,
and you've got Ferrari and then you've got Red Bull.
Most people wouldn't be able to tell you what kind
of car that is. All I know is it's a
Red Bull car, like and that's and yeah, that's one
of the things with Formula one car racing, Like we

(01:44:37):
all know that Lewis Hamilton has his watch sponsors and
stuff like that. It's like every inch of a race
car has got a sponsorship on it, so it doesn't
look out of place at all, and like they've been
doing that since Days of Thunder.

Speaker 10 (01:44:51):
Yeah, I think at the start of the movie, well,
when he's I believe he's is he greasing NASCAR in
the opening scene.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
No, he's racing endurance. He's racing endurance race at the start.

Speaker 10 (01:45:04):
But yeah, and because right at the start, it's like
basically from the walk from his his sunny with the
walk from his trailer to the racetrack, like he's wearing
a hat with forward on it and he gets told something.
I can't remember what what what he gets told, but
it's basically like, yeah, he's got like just this hat

(01:45:26):
that he's got to wear forward on it, just as
he's walking from his from his his like trailer to
the to the pit, and it's like, yeah, the whole
it just goes towards the whole, like legitimacy of the
of the whole movie, which yea yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Like my dad was critical of One Day Motorsport a
few years ago, and he said, basically, the drivers these
days are just walking billboards, like because they're all their sponsorship.
But even today, I was watching the NBA Draft today
and as soon as a player was picked up by
a team, a hat be handed to them to put on,
like with the sponsor of that team. It's like and

(01:46:04):
without those sponsors in Faanness, formula one wouldn't exist, Like,
like I said, it's an expensive spot.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
But what did you think of the characters as well?

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
Like, because of course we can talk about how the
film looks, but it probably doesn't work if we can't
relate to the characters as well.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Did you find the characters interesting?

Speaker 10 (01:46:24):
Yeah, Like I think besides the speaking of antagonists earlier,
besides the businessman prick character that kind of just shows
up at the end of the film, who was pretty
it was pretty obvious that he was going to turn
out to be the kind of character that he turned

(01:46:46):
out to be. Besides that, everyone I thought felt kind
of like a real person. And like, you've got you've
got the sonny the older racers still kind of has
something in the tank. And then you've got a character
that's the mother of a of a young racer who

(01:47:08):
might actually die doing the job that he that he
that he loves. You've got this girl that works as
part of the pit crew who's a little bit clumsy
and feels like embarrassed, but that it's like everybody kind
of feels like this real part of this whole thing.
And and I love the fact that Reuben ja Viberdein's

(01:47:31):
character I any other movie, just the fact that he's
the team owner, like the supposed to like billionaire or whatever.
However much money that this guy has, he would be
a bad guy because it's like, you can't have a
billionaire rich guy be a good be a positive character.
And yet he is because he like he's somebody that
has passion for his team and passion.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
For like racing.

Speaker 10 (01:47:54):
And you know, yeah, just I really did. I really
did like the characters in this How about yourself?

Speaker 20 (01:47:59):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Yeah, I was the same and I found One of
the things I really liked about this was I could
pick a couple of the characters who they're based on,
Like I really got a feeling that JP Joshua is
based on a young Lewis Hamilton, because yeah, Lewis Hamilton
was that driver.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
When he came onto the scene, it was like wow,
oils Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
But also he was expected to win, Like there was
that expectation of and it's weird because I've never seen
that at any time with a driver. It was like
because he'd been so successful at go karting and stuff
like that. Even when Michael Schumacher first started racing, I
don't think anybody had had that prediction that he was
going to become the champion that he did. With Lewis Hamilton,

(01:48:43):
it was kind of like, this kid is going to
win a Formula One championship in the next three years,
and it was like it was completely unfair to put
that pressure on him, and he was that awkward kid
like that Joshua is here where it's like I see
a lot of Joshua and this is bravar, Like he
doesn't really want to be doing these sponsorship photos and

(01:49:04):
stuff like that, but he feels that he has to
and I think that was the same with Lewis Hamilton
in those early years because of that pressure that was
on him. Blackwise, the Kate McKenna character, who's the technician
for the team, like trying to build the perfect car.
We've seen that here in Australia with Erabus racing over

(01:49:26):
the last few years, where you've kind of got someone
from Betty who's the owner of Erebus. She was someone
that came from a background out of car racing and
built this team that from a backyard team to become
the champion team. So you've got people like that that
you kind of look at these characters and go, I

(01:49:48):
believe that because there's been characters like that, even Sunny,
Like I know it's these days, it's kind of unheard
of of drivers still racing Formula One at the age,
but I started to think of drivers like Nigel Mansell
from the past and people like that that were racing
at an old age where it was kind of like, yeah,

(01:50:10):
he's not gonna win any races anymore, but he's good
for the team kind of thing. So I kind of
I liked all the characters because of that reason, and
like you said, the character of Ruben. You like him
and like you said, normally he would be the lex luthor,
Yeah kind of character. And there's one piece in this
where there is like a guy who's trying to undermine
the team. I won't say who it is, but literally

(01:50:34):
one of the things that he does in this movie
someone did this year in Formula One where one of
the teams had their car pool decide because someone made
an allegation that there was an unfair cooling system in
the car. And it's like, man, that that's showing, like
how close this is. But I even like the acting

(01:50:55):
in this as well. I mean, it's got to be
bloody hard as an actor to not only turn up
and act, but know that you're about to get put into,
as someone called them once, a rocket ship that you're
going to have to drive.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
The fact that and I don't know whether the lions
were dubbed later or whether they did deliver them when
they're in the car, but it's like the fact that
Damanidriis and Brad Pitt like deliver lines and have facial
expressions like while they're driving the car.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
It's like it's I don't know, like it's something that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
There's very few actors, Like I think of Tom Cruise
and I think of these guys about the only guys
that would ever be in that situation where it's a
life threatening moment that they're actually in and they're expected
to act at the same time.

Speaker 10 (01:51:45):
So I know, like, yeah, I think this is actually
Brad Pitt's the biggest payday of his career for this movie.
I think he got like thirty million for it, and
I think, yeah, he deserves it because it's a massive
movie and it really a lot of it hinges on him,
his portrayal of the character and to make it to
actually sell the idea that yeah, this this this guy

(01:52:07):
that was a pretty boy a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
And I dare say too, they would have had to
have gone and sat for a cam's license, which is
the license to go on a track.

Speaker 10 (01:52:15):
Like I know, Brad Pitt is like really into murder,
sport and racing and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah,
so he might he may have already had He may.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Have been like Frankie Munez must be feeling pretty ripped
off right now. It's like Frankie Munez from for people
that don't know from Malcolm in the Middle he is
actually now a champion N's car driver. It's like he
must be feeling pretty ripped off that he didn't get
off in a role in this movie.

Speaker 10 (01:52:43):
I could have played myself.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
So I guess the big question is, now, what are
you going to give this movie out of five?

Speaker 10 (01:52:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna gave this four and a half out
of five. They're saying, yeah, it's definitely one of the
It's I think it's probably the most exhilarating film experience
I've had this year. I can't really compare it to
many other massive movies. The only I mean, I guess
the only other massive movie that came out this year

(01:53:12):
that I could draw comparisons to is Mission Possible, the
last Mission Possible in the movie, and that was a
huge letdown. This is probably like the biggest movie, what
I would consider to be the biggest movie of the year.
And yeah, it's just it's one that I'm actually seeing
it again in a couple of days.

Speaker 29 (01:53:30):
I'm gonna go see it in forty X and I
can't wait. So yeaheah, I really did enjoy it. Yeah,
I'm giving it four out of five as well. I
really love this film. I think there was I think
maybe it might have been a little bit over long,
But apart from that, you saw, yeah, yeah, it's like this.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
It just I don't know, like this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
I said recently that there were so many blockbusters coming
out at the moment that just didn't have that wow factor.
This had that wow factor start to finish. Knowing how
it was shot and everything like that just added to
the experience even more. The fact that you care for
the drivers as well.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
My wife said recently, like that she was keen to
see it because she's not a Formula one fan, but
she loved Rush, like the film a few years ago,
because she loved the characters. This is the kind of
film that you can go along to and not know
anything about Formula one but fall in love with the characters.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
You don't need to do homework.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Yeah, but yeah, like it's it's just a It's just
one of those movies that I think in the future
people are going to say, how the hell did they
pull that off? And I'd love to know the insurance
on this movie as well, Like, not only are you driving,
like I said before, driving cars that are worth a
lot you're driving amongst cars that are worth even more.

(01:54:55):
So I would love to have known the insurance spill
on this film, not that they wrote any thing off
or anything, but I would love Yeah, I would love
to have known how much they were covered for. So,
I mean, my dog's insurance covers her up to one
million dollars worth of daddy. So yeah, but I'm giving
f one four out of five. Kyle is giving it

(01:55:15):
four and a half out of five. We both highly
recommend it. So it is a general release, So go
along and check it out at a cinema.

Speaker 25 (01:55:25):
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set it on.

Speaker 25 (01:56:07):
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set it u, I ring ten pa.

Speaker 12 (01:56:15):
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I have nuck tuck at a dance around.

Speaker 25 (01:56:24):
Oh missus Booth said no, they'll be head mom.

Speaker 7 (01:56:30):
Set it on.

Speaker 16 (01:56:31):
I ring tenn sucks out a dance round s I
ring ten planning frocks out a dance round. Set it on,
I ring tenator, I don't tuck at a dance around,
set it up.

Speaker 25 (01:56:49):
I ran tended pat, don't talk about a.

Speaker 12 (01:56:52):
Dance round, set it on ring ten, Nu nuck out
a dance.

Speaker 23 (01:56:58):
Around missus Busy said, no, Wilphy ahead, Les, Mom, bring Sid,
I bring santad last.

Speaker 25 (01:57:09):
Don't stock got a dad brown?

Speaker 18 (01:57:12):
Sand?

Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
I bring Santa Last?

Speaker 12 (01:57:15):
Don Stock got a dad brown?

Speaker 7 (01:58:18):
Up?

Speaker 8 (01:58:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
And hello, this is I get to know us exercise.
In the last one, we took a look at our
favorite films. Today, we're going to take a look at
our favorite directors. What directors inspire each of us or
get us excited when we see that they've got a
new film coming out?

Speaker 21 (01:58:44):
And start with Lee this time, Lee, who are your
favorite directors and why?

Speaker 26 (01:58:50):
All right, Well, if you've heard any of our recordings earlier,
any of our reviews, you would have heard us review
Psycho and the Birds. So I'm gonna start with Alfred Hitchcock.
And I love his camera techniques. I love how in
depth a look he provides for his viewers into his films.

(01:59:17):
I think that he has a very specific style and
he'll pan the camera writing and have close ups and
pan them right back as well. He'll have aerial shot views.
But he the way that he directs brings suspense and drama,

(01:59:39):
and he mixes that, of course with with the film
score music and gets his actors to have you know,
specific looks on their faces and and things like that
that he just draws out the best of his cast,
I believe, but also the set and scenery show are

(02:00:00):
really amazing and just yeah, it brings you that suspenseful
film that I think. You know, he's probably one of
the directors in the past that others have really looked
up to and have really probably tried to use some
of those techniques themselves to try and bring the quality

(02:00:23):
of film that he does. Another director that I love
I've already also mentioned just in you know, in R
reviews is James Cameron.

Speaker 5 (02:00:36):
Again.

Speaker 26 (02:00:36):
I love how much detail he puts into his filming
and the extent that he'll go to. You know, I
think he's a director that will wait many years to
make sure that everything is in place for him to
have the best technology, to have the best filming available,

(02:01:02):
whether it's through camera shots or you know, you think
of films like Avatar with you know, the actors or
being completely blue and the color that's brought to his film,
and then of course Titanic with the ship splitting intwo
and the the shots of the real sunken ship the Titanic.

(02:01:29):
He just goes to extreme lengths and sets the bar
really high. So I really just admire his Yeah, he's
directing and the last one I'm gonna I know he's
probably supposed to choose a favorite, but I just can't
do it. There's just too many directors that you just

(02:01:52):
love their work, and I don't know how you choose one.
So I am cheating and I chosen a third one,
and that is James One. And his work is very
different to the people I've mentioned already. Of course, you know,
you see a lot of his work in the horror

(02:02:14):
field as well, which I do tend to love horror films.
So the Conjuring is the Conjuring series is one of
my favorites, and you know he's been involved with that,
but you know, he's also directed things like Fast and
Furious and Saw and part of the Conjuring Series, of course,

(02:02:39):
is The Nun there's insidious, Like there's this big line
of film that I really love. I know what you
did last summer. All these things that he's been involved with,
and you know, there's different techniques in different films, but
I think if you do, you love so many films

(02:03:01):
of one director, they are filming it in such a
way that you just you love their work. You love
their film because of the way that they're filming it,
and so you know, I don't obviously know the intricacies
of every technique of this director, but what I know
is I am drawn into the film not just because

(02:03:24):
of the acting, but because of the visual shots, which
you really need to draw you into film. So they
are my top three.

Speaker 21 (02:03:34):
Awesome. So Kyle, you're up, who are your favorite directors
and why?

Speaker 10 (02:03:42):
Hey, Well, yeah, I'm like, I'm like Lily, it's really
hard to just say I've got just one favorite director.
In the same way that's very hard for me to
say I've just got one favorite movie, but in the
same way that like, some of my favorite directors have

(02:04:05):
directed some of my favorite movies, but my my favorite
directors aren't the directors are my favorite movies. It's like
Mary Aaron's a great director, but American Psycho is really
the only the only film of hers that I'm that
I'm that fond of. And Peter Jackson. It was great

(02:04:26):
to see Peter Jackson go from being like a a
little indie film maker making these kind of ultra violent
gore comedies too, pretty much one of the biggest names
in Hollywood. But yeah, I still wouldn't say that he's
he's my favorite director. I definitely have two, and I

(02:04:47):
think a large part of why I like these two
guys so much is because for almost every other filmmaker
that I can think of, that there's always when they've
they've worked up a certain amount of pictures, a certain filmography,

(02:05:08):
there's at least one movie of theirs that I don't
particularly enjoy, like, whether that's I don't think Tarantino or
Christopher Nolan or Spilberg, Woody Allen or Akirakus, any variety
of directors, there's always at least one or two that
that that I haven't enjoyed. So I've got two of

(02:05:30):
my favorites, my favorite dead director and my favorite living director.
Now my favorite director is deceased, would be Sergio Leone.
Now he's mostly known for his westerns, the Italian filmmaker
who was mostically known for for spaghetti westerns, but he

(02:05:53):
actually started out working on these huge sword and Sandal
epic films in Italy. I think the first movie that
he's ever really credited as as a director on, even
though I think he took over halfway through production or
something like that. Is one called The Colossus of Rhodes,
which is like it's a giant epic battles and it's

(02:06:17):
really like what you would consider to be like a
giant spectacular movie. Most people have never heard of it.
But that's that's what he that's what he mentionally known for,
that's what that's what he kind of cut his teeth
on those kind of things. And but what he really
finally got started on as the lead director was movies

(02:06:38):
like Fistful of Dollars. It's true that that that's a
knockoff remake of Yu Jimbo and the Samurai filmed by
but I get like, I give it a pass that
I don't give remakes nowadays a pass because just like

(02:06:58):
Magnificent seven and seven Samurai, I mean, back then, Westerners
weren't really able to see movies by Japanese filmmakers as much.
And also the movie was kind of a B movie
which was being produced as like a secondary picture by
the crew while they were making a much larger Italian film.

(02:07:21):
But nobody I can't even remember the name of the
other film that fist Phillo Dollars is one that history remembers,
and it's also like it kind of revitalized the Western genre,
and the movie I think is mainly responsible for Clint
Eastwood's interesting career. I know there's a joke in Back

(02:07:44):
to the Future three that Clint Eastwood he never never
wore anything like this, So Clint who because back then
all the Western movies were all rhymestones and sequence shirts
and that kind of stuff, And it wasn't really until
Sergio Leone and the Italian the Spaghetti western kind of

(02:08:07):
genre came along that kind of gave much more of
a gritty look at that kind of at the Western
types of film. But like, yeah, he made several of
the westerns good, the bad, and the ugly Once in
a Time in the West, all of which are very
gritty world shop movies, very different to one another, with

(02:08:30):
amazing scores by Enniomo Raconi, the way that he can
the way that Sergiolen was able to just shoot, just
shoot a close up of a character and that's all
that's all you need to do for you to get
exactly what the character is feeling. Exactly what is happening.
My favorite film of his would actually be his final movie,

(02:08:51):
Once Moon a Time in America, which was something very
different being against a film, and it's an incredibly epic production.
The full version of the movies like over four hours long,
I think, and it's it's my personal favorite gangster movie
ever made, just I think I think it tops Goodfellas

(02:09:11):
and Godfather and those kind of movies just flee the
scope of the story that it tells, so that Sergio
Leone would be my favorite director of the past. My
favorite director that is working at the moment would have
to be Were Sanderson. Now, like I said, he's the

(02:09:33):
only working director that I can think of at the
moment who I have enjoyed all of his films, and
I mean the closest that I come to not liking
one of his movies would be his recent movie Asteroid City,
and even then I still liked it. It's just a
movie that I didn't love as much as the rest
of his work. But all of his films I think

(02:09:55):
are incredibly interesting from every angle, like the set design, costume, cinematography,
the music, the acting, the stories. All of his movies
are instantly recognizable as Willas Anderson movies at the at
their best, they can be rewatched over and over again

(02:10:17):
to you appreciate just another aspect of the film. And
I love the way that he's able to blend silliness
and drama perfectly together in a way that you can
you can show something, he can show something on paper
which is horrific, like a dog being run over by
a car, and yet have it be funny because it's

(02:10:38):
just how he handles it. But then at the same
immediately after that, he can turn on a dime and
have you almost like tearing up just because of a
single line of dialogue of how one of his actors
says something. Because how much he has drawn you into
his movies, and these these crazy worlds that he's that

(02:10:59):
he's created is as ridiculous as they look, and how
he merges stop motion animation and then wacky comedy. But
just how much he's able to draw you into a film,
how he's able to have a distinct vision that's instantly recognizable,
and yeah, just how basically for just how much I've

(02:11:22):
appreciated his entire filmography and I've still and I still
appreciate it going on I'm always looking forward to the
next Wes Anderson movie. Yeah, he'd definitely be my favorite
living director.

Speaker 21 (02:11:36):
And Harley, who are your favorite directors and why?

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
Yeah, this is also difficult for me. There are so
many films that I find I latch onto the directors
because they do something. As Lee said, Alfred Hitchcock, I
can't go past his films. They are an His way

(02:12:02):
of structuring shots and scenes brings it out so much
in a story. He's been a favorite of mine since
I was very young, so definitely I mentioned for him,
and a little bit for the same reason. I guess.
I don't know if there was an influence there, but

(02:12:23):
Ridley Scott especially, you know, everyone remembers Alien, but he
also did Filmer and Louise and things like that, and
I can't say. And this is what you guys brought
up earlier, is that you don't necessarily like every film
that a director has done, but you know, the topic

(02:12:44):
might not be your cup of tea, but when you
see what they do, it's like, oh, Okay, I'm gonna
keep watching because you draw me in. I mean, you know,
I was never interested in seeing gladiat Era. I wasn't
like a Russell Crowe fan or anything, and I was

(02:13:04):
a bit put off, but it was on and I
found myself watching it, and of course that's a really
Scott movie, so I'm like, damn it, he sucks me
in it. So you get a lot of that. But
as we're spoken in elsewhere on Patreon talking about our
favorite films growing up, I started to discover foreign cinema

(02:13:29):
and a lot of what I was seeing was coming
from Hong Kong and China directors like Wan Ka Wi
Angrily and Soy Huk So One Ka Whi is probably
one of my all time favorite directors. People might know
films such as Chunking Express, Happy Together, in the Mood

(02:13:53):
for Love, Fallen Angels. A couple of his earlier films
were a little bit different. I think most directors in
Hong Kong or wherever I have to kind of break
their baby teeth on doing like a gangster or a
Kung Fu film before they're allowed to go and do
whatever they want. It's kind of like nowadays in Hollywood

(02:14:17):
you have to remake something before you can go and
do your own film. You know, we need to proof
of what you can do. And I actually think that
his early films, his first one, As Tears Go By.
I think it was one I'd been looking for for years.
I used to see it on like SBS and World Movies,

(02:14:40):
and I'd seen it a couple of times. I thought, Oh,
this film is really interesting, but I never associated it
to Wankha. Why looking and I kept trying to find
the film, and I remember describing it to a friend
once who was from Thailand, and he thought, oh, I
know that film, but it's got a title like this,
And their title was very different to the title that

(02:15:02):
we know it as, which is As Tears Go By.
So it's very interesting the way things kind of slip
through our memory and then here you go, you come
back now, and it's like, oh, there's that film I
was looking for. Oh look, it just happens to be
by my favorite director. I haven't seen a couple of
more recent things he's done, so I'm going on a

(02:15:24):
bit of a hunting spree. But I remember when I
started building my DVD library, I would look out for
his movies and he often worked with Australian Christopher Doyle,
who did a lot of the lighting and kind of
scene direction and stuff in his film so there started
to be the collaboration between them started to get this

(02:15:46):
real nice look on the films. So there was something
there that it's always drawn me in. And often he
is writing his own films, but when it comes to
the filming of them, what makes it to the final
finished film can be quite different to what he wrote

(02:16:07):
in the script. He's added things, he's changed things, he's
cut complete sections out. I mean, the film he did,
Happy Together, you know, involved a popular actress of the
time in an important sort of b story which completely
got cut from the film because it took away from
the central relationship of the movie. So all her scenes

(02:16:31):
don't exist anywhere in the final cut of the film,
which is really interesting because you see behind the scenes
stuff and she's interviewed. She doesn't appear anyway. I think
she still gets a credit in the end. But yeah,
at the same time, I was watching films by Ung Lee,
which I guess some people might know for doing the
whole movie starring Eric Danner. But yeah, before he ventured

(02:16:56):
into America, there were a lot of other films that
like White Loved, He did The Wedding Banquet, Heat drink Man, Woman,
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I think everyone probably knows that one.
He did Broke Back Mountain as well, so he's got
a real But I think both of these directors actually
have for a real way of capturing kind of human stories.

(02:17:19):
There's something in what they present to me that keeps
me hooked. I don't think I've ever disliked any of
their films or topics. I've always been dragged in one
last one, I think I'll mention again Asian director, so
he Hark. I used to love growing up in some

(02:17:39):
of the Chinese kind of action, mystic ghost kind of stories.
He created the Chinese Ghost Story Trilogy, which was a
series I loved and I watched over and over and over.
I love those movies so much, so whenever i'd sort

(02:18:00):
of see his name attached to something, I would check
it out. There's another one he did, which is, you know,
far removed from that kind of genre peaking opera Blues,
and it was actually a drama said in the days
of peaking opera. So that's when I recommend checking out.

(02:18:21):
It's a nice kind of character drama, lots of subtext
and things. Look, I'll just say the name say Haak,
you can go check it out Look for a Chinese
ghost story. Those are my kind of favorites, you know,
other other ones like that, that kind of fantastical kung
fu action stuff like what was it called Zoo Warriors

(02:18:44):
from the Mystic Mountain or Magic Mountain maybe something like that.
I used to find those films so much fun and
they would draw me in and then I'd find myself
watching all these dramas because they're from the same directors,
but I think they've been some of my most influential directors.

Speaker 3 (02:19:05):
Yeah, I know, there's like so many out there, like
I find the same thing doing mine that it's so
difficult because there's directors out there that have kind of
shaped the way that that I write.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
So like growing up.

Speaker 21 (02:19:20):
Watching James Cameron movies.

Speaker 3 (02:19:24):
Like that definitely shaped the films that I love today
because I can still remember seeing like the Terminator films
and Titanic, and I've still got a Titanic poster that
hangs in my office. So like, there's directors like that
that kind of shaped who I am. Even Steven Spielberg,

(02:19:44):
even though I wouldn't say I'm a massive Steven Spielberg fan,
his films shaped who I am today. Kind of thing
with when it comes to films. But my favorite director
is my first One's kind of weird because he's not
always known for his directing, But Taylor Sheridan. I started

(02:20:08):
off loving his screenplays. I loved Sacario, Hella high Water,
which I still think is one of the best films
of the last decade. He basically writes the kind of
films that that I almost wish that I was writing.

(02:20:29):
It's probably the best way to put it. But then
he's gone into directing over the last few years, and
he's directed a couple of films that I've really liked
as well. So of course for TV he's been doing Yellowstone,
which a lot of people will know, and that's like
basically his style.

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
But he also.

Speaker 3 (02:20:51):
Started to direct things like Those who Wish Me Dead
and win River, And even though Those who Wished Me
Dead it's not a great film, I still really enjoy
But I loved wind River. I thought that was absolutely fantastic.
But I love the directing that he's been doing on
Yellowstone in eighteen eighty three, So that's a bit of
a cheap one because he's more of a screenwriter as

(02:21:11):
a director, but he's directing now So my two favorites
that I guess like whenever I hear that they're making
a movie, I get.

Speaker 21 (02:21:21):
Really really.

Speaker 3 (02:21:23):
Excited about festival is Kelly Reichhart. She's kind of an
indie filmmaker from America who rose to prominence with her
movie Wendy and Lucy, which was basically just Michelle Williams
and a dog going on a road trip. I just
I love the way that she makes her film so

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simple that they can be shot on such a small budget.
Like Wendy and Lucy, the most expensive part of that
film was Michelle Williams's.

Speaker 1 (02:21:53):
Pay.

Speaker 3 (02:21:55):
The rest of the film was just this really, really
great road trip movie. She also did this fantastic film
as their follow up to that called meex Cutoff, which
is about the earliest settlers in America going out into
the West. And again, it was one of those movies

(02:22:15):
that was shot on a really small budget, so it
felt like you were there on the wagons with these
guys and like It's a hard hitting, harsh film, which
she kind of also recreated a couple of years ago
with their film First Cow. She doesn't make easy to
watch films. They're kind of harsh and confronting when you

(02:22:39):
watch them, but that's what you come to know and love,
and that's what I love about Kelly Raichhart's films. But
my all time favorite director. You've probably guessed from the
fact that when we talked about favorite films, I mentioned
two of his films, Danny Boyle. He just went through
this whole season in his career where every movie he

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made he loved. I loved Shallow Grave, Train Spotting, a
Lifeless Ordinary, The Beach, twenty eight Days Later, Sunshine, slum Dog,
Millionaire One, twenty seven Hours, Trance. It was just like
everything he made to me was almost like perfect films.
But I also love the fact that you never knew

(02:23:21):
what you were going to get with his movies, Like
he'll make a hard hitting drama like Train Spotting, and
then he'll go make a film noir kind of film
with a lifeless Ordinary, and then he did The Beach,
which was kind of like this surreal crime thriller, and
then he made a horror with twenty eight Days Later,

(02:23:42):
then he made a kid's film with Millions, and then
did Sunshine, which was like this epic sci fi film
that I still think is one of the most underrated
films of like the last twenty thirty years. So yeah,
Danny Boyle would have to be my favorite director, just
because only every movie he's ever made I've really enjoyed,

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and because I love the fact that you never really
know what you're going to get when you sit down
to watch one of his films. So I guess that
wraps up our look at our favorite directors. Hopefully that
will give you a little bit of an insight into
what kind of movies and that that we like. So
what we're going to cover, Yeah, there's there's a lot

(02:24:26):
out there. It's just really hard topic and which probably
should mention our kenos telling me to us as well,
because of course Say is one of my favorite Aussie directors.
So that we better finish up now, stay tuned because
we've got a lot of great content coming up.

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God, Hello, welcome back to the show. Well, now I

(02:28:01):
want to take a look at one of the big
blockbusters that is in cinemas right now. I'm talking about
Jurassic World Rebirth. Now I'm going to go on a
little bit of a rant with this film.

Speaker 1 (02:28:14):
I just know it because.

Speaker 3 (02:28:17):
This was an interesting experience for me because I went
and saw this at a very very early premiere and
I am a huge lover of Jurassic Park. The original
film had a really really big impact on me as
a film lover when I first saw it, and it
was one of the movies that helped me fall in
love with cinema. I guess I've kind of had a

(02:28:41):
love hate relationship with some of the Jurassic World movies.
Some of them I've liked. One of them, I completely despise.
The whole idea of an auction for dinosaurs in a
mansion just didn't wash over with me. I have no
problem with the storyline of people leave of you using
the dinosaurs as a commodity. In fact, I'm going to

(02:29:03):
talk about that a little bit more with Rebirth here,
but the whole idea that it was being done in
a mansion, like people actually bringing dinosaurs into a mansion
just made absolutely zero sense to me. Now, why this
is an interesting experience was that I found myself watching
this film at the premiere and really enjoying it because

(02:29:26):
I went into this film just expecting another people versus
dinosaurs action film. That's all I expected. So I was
a little surprised when on the way out some of
the other critics and journalists that were there, I could
hear how negative they were being about the film, and

(02:29:46):
I was kind of thinking, to myself, you went into
a movie that's basically humans versus dinosaurs, what did you expect?
Like you didn't expect an Oscar winning performance from the.

Speaker 1 (02:29:58):
Car, surely.

Speaker 3 (02:30:00):
But it's been weird because now some of those reviewers'
reviews have gone online and I've read them and it's like,
did we watch the same film? Like what were you
expecting with this movie? Anyway, I'll get onto that more
later on, but first of all, let's talk about the
plot of.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
Jurassic World Rebirth.

Speaker 3 (02:30:21):
Now, the film is directed by Gareth Edwards, who is
a director that I have an absolute a lot of
respect for. I loved his movie Monsters. I still think
that is one of the most underrated kind of monster
films of all time with the way that he made
that film. I also love Rogue One a Star Wars story.

(02:30:44):
To me, that is the best Star Wars aside from
the originals of cost of the modern day films. To me,
that is the best Star Wars film just because of
the fact that it kind of goes into that whole.

Speaker 1 (02:30:59):
It's a war film. To me.

Speaker 3 (02:31:00):
It's not a sci fi It is in the sense
that it's set in space and all of that, but
to me, it's a war film. So with Gareth Edwards
at the helm of Jurassic World Rebirth, I was kind
of expecting a fairly decent film. Now now, plot wise,
it is a pretty It is pretty basic when it

(02:31:22):
comes to the plot.

Speaker 1 (02:31:23):
Let's be completely honest. This is set at a.

Speaker 3 (02:31:27):
Time when people are kind of frustrated with dinosaurs. The
opening of this film is a traffic jam being caused
by a dinosaur are dying and instead of people being sad.
It's kind of like what we're like when there's roadwork.
So not again, it's happening again. I'm going to be
late for work, I'm going to be late getting the
kids to school. That there's a whole thing about that

(02:31:50):
humanity is sick of dinosaurs. That is where we first
meet Doctor Henry Loomis played by Jonathan Bailey. He's a
paleontologist and the exhibition that he's been in charge of
is closing because I think he says at one point
they've sold seven tickets in the last week to it,

(02:32:11):
which goes further to show that the world is sick
of dinosaurs now. He is then recruited by Zora Bennett
played by Scarlett Johansson, who is a covert operation expert.
From the early dialogue that we hear, she's very, very
good at her job, although she is feeling it a

(02:32:35):
little bit because on her last mission she lost a
really close friend. Now they're hired by Martin Krabs, who's
a representative of a pharmaceutical company played by Rupert Friend,
and he recruits them because they feel that some of

(02:32:55):
the rarer dinosaurs's DNA and stems els might be able
to be used to cure some of the world's leading diseases,
including cancer, and considering the world no longer cares about dinosaurs,
he feels that, yeah, it's probably all right to be
able to use animals or dinosaurs in this case in

(02:33:18):
that way. So Zora puts together her her team, which
also consists of people like Bobby played by.

Speaker 1 (02:33:30):
Ed Screen.

Speaker 3 (02:33:31):
You've also got Duncan Kincaid played by Matalia Ali, and
they head off to this zone that's now been kind
of quarantined where the most dangerous dinosaurs were left after
the original Jurassic Park. Now, there's a little bit more

(02:33:52):
to that story as well that I'll talk about in
a little bit as well about what's actually there. From there,
pretty much plays out like a video game. This team
has to hunt down each of these dinosaurs and then
find a way to extract the DNA and stem cells
from them. There's a little bit of a b story

(02:34:13):
here as well. You've got a character called Ruben played
by Manuel Garcia Ruffalo and his daughters Terresa played by
Lunar Blaze and Isabella played by Audrina Miranda, and also
Terresa's boyfriend Xavier played by David in Kono they get

(02:34:38):
shipwrecked as a result of one of the dinosaurs, so
to speak, and they're originally rescued by Zora's team, but
then something happens that means that they are separated from them,
and there's a little bit of a secret there because
we see the real side of mar And during that time,

(02:35:01):
because Martin almost kills Terrasa. So from there, the two
groups are trapped on an island with a bunch of
these dinosaurs, and that's where the fun ensues. Now, like
I said before, if you go into this movie just
expecting a fun action film, which is pretty much all

(02:35:26):
you really are going to expect from this film, you're
gonna have fun with this. Yes, there is nothing new
in this film. I will give the people that are
criticizing the film that this is a storyline that's been
done a million times before. And because I'm someone who
watches a lot of action movies, a lot of B grade,
C grade, even D grade action movies, the story has

(02:35:49):
been done a lot, I've got to say, but it's
still entertaining. And then I think that's the thing that
gets me the most with this movie is how can
people expec aft anything else but an action movie. You've
got Scarlet Johanson and their team basically chasing around dinosaurs
for the entire time. To its credit, Gareth Edwards brings

(02:36:12):
in suspense a lot in this Sure this film is
not a fraction of the first film. If you think
of that scene where the kids are hiding from the
raptors in the original Jurassic Park, the suspense here doesn't
go anywhere near that level. But there are some key

(02:36:34):
things in this film. I think that does make it
kind of special. First of all, this film touches on
humans using animals, in this case dinosaurs as a commodity.
As someone who volunteers and works with an animal welfare organization,
I can say this happens right around the world. People

(02:36:58):
in America all the time. They get among they get
a big cat, because of course their laws allow them
to be able to do that. They get bored of it.
The animal ends up suffering because perhaps they stopped feeding
it as often as they did. It starts to get
lonely because it doesn't have that human interaction because they
don't want to be around it anymore. It happens all

(02:37:20):
the time, so to see it come to the screen.
The opening scenes of this film actually really impacted me
because I know that happens to animals all around the world,
where once upon a time it was a big draw
card at a zoo. Now nobody cares about that animal anymore.
The audiences as has languished, so therefore they try and

(02:37:43):
find a way to get rid of that animal or
spend less money on it, so the animal suffers. That
came across here, same with the whole idea that somebody
like Martin Krebs can go, you know what, I can
make money off these animals for for health reasons. Now
in this the animals aren't suffering as a result of that, because,

(02:38:06):
of course Ozora and Henry have to do is just
take a DNA sample.

Speaker 1 (02:38:12):
But you know all along that if.

Speaker 3 (02:38:15):
That works and that the DNA of the various dinosaurs
and the cells do cure cancer, then down the track
you're going to have breeding farms basically of people just
breeding these dinosaurs purely so that they can purely so

(02:38:40):
that they can make money off it. And that is
a scary, scary thought, especially when you consider that some
of the other dinosaurs here are what happens when they
tried to breed different dinosaurs together to try and create
a new dinosaur, and the ugly ones or the ones
that weren't really big draw cards, they've ended up on

(02:39:02):
this island and you can see the mess that that's happened.
So you could imagine what would happen if a pharmaceutical
company started breeding dinosaurs for DNA doing experiments, and you're
gonna have an absolutely, an absolute mess. Acting wise, with
this film, Scarlett Jr. Hanson does what she has to do.

(02:39:22):
Really impressed with mahrschel Ali with this film as well.
He has really bulked up to play the action hero
here and does an absolutely amazing job in the role
as well. I also really liked the character of doctor
Henry Loomis the Jonathan Bailey character, so I hope if

(02:39:43):
they do do more of these films that they do
incorporate that character. But look, if you're going to go
into this movie, just expect a fun action movie. This
is not going to be an Oscar winner, it's not
going to be a Golden Globes winner, it's not going
to change the world. But you know what, if one
child or one teenager goes into this and learns anything

(02:40:04):
about animal welfare. I see that as a win. Look,
there's a lot more I could discuss as well. To me,
the dinosaurs here don't look as good as the dinosaurs
did in the original film. I'm not sure why, with
the way CGI has changed over the years. Maybe it's
still that wow factor that we got with the original
Jurassic Park. I'm not one hundred percent sure, but yeah, Look,

(02:40:27):
this is just a fun action movie. So Look, if
you're going to go into Jurassic World Rebirth expecting something
award winning or anything like that, you're going to be disappointed.
But if you're willing to go into the film and
just experience a fun action movie, then you're not Everything

(02:40:48):
is a stereotype in this Martin Krebs being the bad guy.

Speaker 1 (02:40:52):
Yes, he tried to kill a child, it's all stereotypical.

Speaker 3 (02:40:55):
But yeah, it's fun and you kind of wait for
that moment that he gets exposed and hopefully chopped.

Speaker 1 (02:41:00):
By a donsall.

Speaker 3 (02:41:01):
But anyway, look, I'm gonna give Jurassic World Rebirth three
and a half out of five. It was a it
was a fun movie to watch. I'm not gonna lie,
So just go in expecting a fun film.

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Speaker 3 (02:49:44):
And that is it for our big movie episode of
Subculture meets the Popcorn Conspiracy and Halley, Kyle, myself and
you get out and see a lot of movies, whether
it be on streaming platforms or whether it be at
the cinema. We don't always get an opportunit need to
review them on the show because we see so many.

Speaker 2 (02:50:02):
Yeah, we get out to streaming platforms. We leave to
bed and go to the lound room to get on
our streaming platforms.

Speaker 3 (02:50:10):
Technically, sometimes Kyle and I do because we get to
go and see the movies that are coming up on
streaming platforms that actn before.

Speaker 1 (02:50:17):
They come out. Yeah, true, we kind of do.

Speaker 3 (02:50:19):
But yeah, there are a lot of movies that us
guys see that we don't always get to put on
the show. So where's the best spot for people to
go and find those reviews?

Speaker 2 (02:50:32):
Of course you've got to go to subculture Entertainment dot com.
We've got so much up there, much more than fits
into any of these shows, and some stuff can't make
it onto the shows for one reason or another. You know,
we do these recordings. But also, Dave, you're a prolific

(02:50:52):
writer of reviews, so there are plenty of written reviews
and interviews on there as well that you should check out.
Lots of news, but if you want to see us
at the event, then you should check out our socials
as well. Subculture Entertainment on Facebook, Discord, Twitter, TikTok, and
blue Sky, or look for Subculture Dave on Instagram and

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threads and what was Kyle's instagram popcorn Kyle on Instagramcorn Kyle.
That's it. Yeah, so you know stalk is everywhere where.

Speaker 11 (02:51:28):
We're there.

Speaker 2 (02:51:29):
Just watch us, leer at us if you will.

Speaker 3 (02:51:32):
And we've also still got a lot of older reviews
getting put up as well. Like I said a while ago,
I found when I was packing up my mum and
dad's place when they moved, I actually found a whole
bunch of of reviews and stuff like that that had
been stored there because of course I don't live at home,
so it's like it all got left there. So I've

(02:51:54):
been going through that and putting a lot of that
up as well. And also a lot of my reviews
from other radio stations have now fallen out of copyright
so I can put them up as well. So a
lot of them have been going up online recently, and
we know that you guys are listening to them because
we see the stats on our website, and funnily enough,

(02:52:15):
sometimes the older movies going up get more people listening
and watching them during the day than what the newer
films do, so we know you guys out there are
loving them.

Speaker 1 (02:52:24):
So yeah, we'll keep putting them up as.

Speaker 2 (02:52:26):
Well, and let us know as well, Like if you
just want to reach out on the socials or whatever,
let us know what you want to see more of
in those because I'm going to put up a few
of the flashback films classic films soon and they'll be
on Patreon. So if there's specific stuff you want to see,

(02:52:50):
like pre two thousand kind of films, let us know.
But films of any time and even music as well,
like what is of the things you want us to
take a look at? Do you want us to have
a discussion on something like did you like today's discussion
about remakes of animated classics or you know, animated remakes
of live action classics, whatever it is you want to

(02:53:14):
come up as a topic, because you guys do give
us really good suggestions. So yeah, hit us.

Speaker 1 (02:53:19):
Up definitely, But for now we better get out of here.

Speaker 2 (02:53:22):
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we look forward to you joining us for our next
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