Subculture Radio Show Ep #115

In this episode of Subculture we chat to Big Country and Sebastian Bach of Skid Row about their upcoming Australian tour.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hello, and welcome to another episode of subculture into the
Popcorn Conspiracy. Well, tonight it's more subculture based because tonight
we have a very very special rock Icons episode. Harlly welcome.
This is a really, really exciting show. We're going to
be chatting to two rock icons tonight on the show.

(00:28):
But we're also kind of throwing the show.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
There's no way to speak about us, Dave, we don't
have an album to our names.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
But no, we do have two rock icons coming on
the show. But we've a kind of thrown open the
episode tonight to you, the listener. We asked last week
for you to nominate bands and artists that you thought
were rock icons that should make it into this episode,
and there's a very special prize for those people who

(00:55):
who have made it onto show. But Harley welcome, How
excited are you about tonight show?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
This is going to be a really cool show. I
think we're having a lot of fun putting together these lists,
except for the bit where as I predict every time,
I keep forgetting so many acts and artists that I love,
and it's only you know after we record this that

(01:24):
I'll remember half of them. But even this morning, getting ready,
it was like, you know, we'd already narrowed down our
top three each and I started putting together a little
playlist because I had their songs in my head and
I'm discovering all these other songs in my phone and
I'm like, oh crap, they probably should have gone somewhere

(01:45):
on the list. And then I thought, oh God, how
do I narrow down that top three? That is so hard.
I mean, there's so much I haven't spoken of. But
I thought, for the sake of the show, I've got
my specific top three that is hopefully broad for everyone,
and everyone will get a bit of a kick out
of it, because I wanted to do something a little

(02:05):
different as well. But the top three could easily be
top three hundred. There were so many great acts. I
don't know what it was like for you, Dave.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, it was pretty difficult for me as well. But
mine was made a little bit easier because a lot
of our listeners. We got hundreds of entries into this,
and a lot of the artists that I was thinking about,
some of the listeners suggested as well, like I really
wanted to put David Bowie or and maybe Elvis into mine.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
And then.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
We had listeners suggesting them quite emphatically, so it was like, okay,
they can go into mine. I think one of mine
might be a little bit of a surprise, but I
I just could not not include him, even though he's
an artist and he's only really only done a couple
of solo things himself, but has worked with a bunch

(02:57):
of different people. So we will have some surprise rises
there later on, but let's jump into it so our first,
and remember, everybody that's name gets read out tonight on
the show and the tracks that they selected get played,
will win a double pass to go and see Spinal
Tap two which is in Cinema's September twenty fifth, and

(03:21):
that's thanks to Sony Pictures Australia that we're giving away
those doubles. But we should also mention who we've got
coming on the show tonight. Sebastian Barker is going to
be on the show to chat all about skid Row
and about the tour that he's got coming up. We
also chatted to Scottish music legends Big Country, who are
coming to Australia as well, so they're on the show

(03:43):
tonight as well. We're going to play of course one
of their absolute classic tracks. But the first person tonight
that wins a double pass to go and see Spinal
Tap two is Jay Woods.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Jay suggested that you two absolute rock icons. I think
he's right if you look back at the U two
back catalog. This is a band that's been around since
the nineteen eighties. In fact, Nick Gardner put them into
his list of album must listen to albums from the
eighties a few weeks ago, and Jay suggested the two

(04:18):
tracks that we play to show you two at their
absolute rock best is a zoo Station, which he says
here is one of the rockiest tracks that they've ever recorded,
and that that is true. That is from the Chung
Baby album and it's an absolutely brilliant song and elevation,
which of course was used on the Lara Croft two

(04:39):
meter soundtrack as well. So let's kick off tonight with Jay.
Jay you're one of double past the Spinal Tap two,
and let's kick with his you two double play.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I stopping gas, I'm ready in.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Ready for what's next.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I'm ready to dick, I'm ready to die, I'm ready
to say, I'm glad to be alive.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I'm ready, I'm ready for the push.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'm callings say from the crack back to take it

(06:18):
to the steep.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Where the shuttle where to go the deal, where the
till they.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Go with the steering wheel, where crash stop.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
Start Spy, spy.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
Are you can true.

Speaker 7 (07:15):
Time shows the future sending the station.

Speaker 8 (07:27):
Still against for.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Six summer.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
Station time time station station stops.

Speaker 8 (08:10):
Guy, stop.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
My boy by w.

Speaker 9 (08:49):
Hill you sun, you shut me from a gun, immediate
to allow me here a corner of your the orbit.

Speaker 10 (09:01):
Of your hips eclips you know out fain ma so
I get a soa control.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
You really like alone going down extoration Ian in the
scott You'll make you see I got to fly so high.
Hell fa Si.

Speaker 10 (09:26):
Stuck stop like the sea, gut still out like packets time.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Maybe you can chate mad Man explain all these two
shows you can see. But I've got sold. But he's
got out gation, dig it.

Speaker 11 (09:51):
In a hole, dig in on my soul now going
out excavation, lion I scoff.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
You make me feel like I can find for so hardvation.

Speaker 12 (10:10):
Where listening for these blues.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Won't you tell me something? Feature I believe? Oh, dig
dig in on the sun, going excumations in the scoff.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And now it's time for another listener request on the show, Harley.
Of course we're today, we are actually going through and
we've got listeners suggesting to us different rock icons, and
we've got another one here right now. And I got
to agree, this is an absolutely great suggestion. It comes

(11:41):
from Craig White, who has picked up a double pass
to go and see spinal Tap two. Now. His suggestion
was Elton John. He said, when it comes to icons
in the rock industry, how can you go past Elton John.
He's the man, he's the myth, he's the legend, which
is very very true.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
So, oh yeah, it's absolutely true. I'm surprised that I
totally forgot about Elton John. Didn't occur to me like, yeah,
oh my god, what incredible songs. I mean, we've got
one Benny and the Jets and Rocketman coming up, such

(12:20):
great tracks like come on if that doesn't make you
rock out? Good suggestion. Absolutely well deserved win on this one, definitely.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
So here we go. Now we are going to listen
to Elton John and Benny and the Jets. Thanks to Craig.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
J hell.

Speaker 11 (12:47):
Around you gotta hell of that sound.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I can't say that, yes, so sad out Benny in
the chest, out the way of.

Speaker 11 (13:10):
The wonderful Oh man, she's a Redican, She shout like
the booge, I'm gonna have food.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
You know about it?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Out thame.

Speaker 13 (13:26):
Benny on the desk, Hey k well do the man
best name Alon.

Speaker 14 (13:46):
But then it makes a mind We shout survive.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Out to take myself along. Let me find out their
side of the streets, to find somebody who.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I haven't seen that yet, Oh so very uny and.

Speaker 15 (14:11):
The chest.

Speaker 8 (14:15):
Were the one.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
She's a Let me she's got Let me I'm about
in our.

Speaker 16 (14:26):
Say Benny on the chess.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Okay, you have seen him here? I stop, say so.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
Betty and the dress, how feeling directly? How about her
food and our.

Speaker 16 (15:37):
Betty and the Jessy.

Speaker 17 (16:26):
My bad last night reply zero while nine am, and
I'm going to be high.

Speaker 18 (16:45):
As a kid by then.

Speaker 17 (16:53):
I missed it so much. I missed my wife's lonely
loudspeak on such a time.

Speaker 19 (17:11):
You'm that wine, and I.

Speaker 11 (17:22):
Think it's gonna be a long long time to dune down.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Breaks me around and get to a fine man. Let
me guy, a man of fun.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
Out fucking mans out there, and I.

Speaker 11 (17:50):
Think it's gonna be a long long time to dunch down,
breaks me around and get.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
To fine to man, Let think guy, a man now
no rocket thou every.

Speaker 17 (18:18):
Mazing kind of please to raise your kids.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
The fact's cool as hell and there's no one there
to raise them.

Speaker 20 (18:38):
If you did.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
God science. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's just my job, my days week A rocket.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Rocking mann.

Speaker 11 (19:15):
I think it's gonna be a long long time to
shut down. Brings me round a can do, fine.

Speaker 21 (19:22):
Man and the Guya man.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Rocking out there.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
And I think it's gonna be a long long time
to run down. Brings me around to get you fine
man and the Guya man.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Don't now, Harley, we just listened to Elton John now,

(20:15):
of course a few years ago. Well actually it's probably
closer to twenty years ago. I went to a very
special concert which was Elton John and Billy Joel playing together.
And Billy Joel is actually our next suggestion that we've
got here from Billy Lucas, who said Billy Joel is
one of those artists that just keeps on keeping on.

(20:38):
He said I saw him in New York a couple
of years ago, and he was absolutely on fire, even
at his age. How can Billy Joel not be a
rock legend or a rock icon? What do you think?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
One agree? I was thinking about putting him on my list,
so thank you for making sure I didn't have to.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
So here we go. We are actually going to listen
to Billy Joel. We're going to listen to the two
tracks that Billy said. I hope it wasn't Billy Joel.
It actually suggested himself. I just realized that the guy's
name is actually Billy Lucas.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
So it's like, yeah, I just had a moment there
and I'm bake, hang on, did you see Billy Lucas
or Billy?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
But we listened to we didn't start the fire? And
also the track that Billy says is Billy Joel's heaviest
track of all time, No Man's Land, of course, which
is from his River of Dreams album, which is an
absolutely amazing album. I might actually do that one as
one of my albums that you have to own segments

(21:39):
that I do sometimes because that is it is. It's
an album that he's so different to anything else that
that Billy Joel ever did. So let's kick it off
with we didn't start the fire, and Billy, you have
got a double pass to see's final tap too.

Speaker 22 (22:06):
Harry Uman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray, Supasit, the Quota, Whichel,
Jogi Maggio, John Maccuntie, Richard Mister Student, Baker Television, Northorea, Southia, Maryland.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Borrow Rosenberg's h Bar su Garay and mun.

Speaker 23 (22:29):
John Rando, The King and Nie and the Catcher in
the Right, Eisenhower Vaccine.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
England's got a new Queen Clotiano.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
Lit satire by John Start the fires the last time
we start the time the.

Speaker 22 (22:49):
We did, and the Chiga fights Joseph Stala Alancar.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's a rever company of Rocabella.

Speaker 22 (22:57):
Cappandella Communist run can't warpern.

Speaker 23 (23:01):
Fuscanini drank and then footballs rock around the clock. Einstein,
James ten Books, get away the team, daty fucking Peter.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Bad Elvis busy this day like Bondo Budapest, Alabama.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
Bruis Chair, princess face drinking.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Rice supper and so we didn't start the tie up.
That's all the mass. The master turn. We had to
start the vine.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
So we did the line and try to finde little
rock has the mat Mickey Mantle, Caroles, fut show, a
line brand on the river, what a non shot and
go California baseball stock for the homicide children, A little mine,
the word.

Speaker 23 (23:49):
Bunny Allington's space Monkey, Muffia Hula, his cast throw and
the little nook to to Simon Ringstayoda and Kennedy took.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Each don't know then the condole start the fire. It
was all with Gone and sister Ve the time. We
didn't start the fire, but we didn't light and then
we tried to fight.

Speaker 22 (24:15):
And coming away Amonstrator in the strange landfill in Berlin,
be a bis.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
And bage lawns, the Radia, British beetle, Lady of old
Miss John Glynn, Criston Beach Pallison for all Knoco.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Next British politician says Jfking blown away. What us do
I have to say? Don't start the fire.

Speaker 18 (24:38):
It wass Alve with Gone and sister the time, and.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
We didn't start the fire, don't We did the night,
but the tried to fight, but control g then with
Chip Nixon back.

Speaker 23 (24:52):
Again, moon shot with stock, water Gate from the Rock,
Bacon Lake and Palestine.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Terror on the airline.

Speaker 23 (24:59):
I had told it send the rat rushings in Afghanistans
were the fucking Sally Ride had been dons with that
Barndt's chromas ben As crack Bernie and hypodermics on the shore.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
China Don the marshal long like a roller color wars.
I can't get abound. We didn't stop the file. It
was always bounces a long time. We didn't start the file.
But we are still and we didn't start the full.

(25:42):
We didn't stop the file. He didn't stop the filet.

(26:17):
I've seen those big machines come rolling through the quiet lines,
having new suits.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Of bankers with their baldos and their bowing signs.

Speaker 23 (26:32):
Gastice day out, tell me discount outlet merchandis raise up
a mountain flex.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
And we will make Gusa Gradfice And now we're gonna
get the basiness. Now we're gonna get the real bank.
Everybody's on a side of bounce, all remembers, bet it
all again. You can't even no mass line she fous

(27:05):
last line. Can't even no MASSI not a god.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Given, no mass, no bands. There ain't much work out here.
It all consume a powerpace.

Speaker 11 (27:37):
No major in the street, just miles and miles of
parking space.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
This morning's paid for since I named.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
In cocaine muscle small read about.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
No need I subo. Never don't get the whole stormy.
Never don't be a time time.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Everybody's on the.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Side of about. I never spend it all again.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
Can no man's lie.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Which is begun to understand. I can't even know man
mine sus hearn no man. I even know that I

(28:43):
see his children with the born and the thing instill.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
God help us all if we're to blame for their
wrong answer breath.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
You are all same on something at the night.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
This place goals on the ground thanks to the Countindoa
kings dance came now in.

Speaker 15 (29:09):
Some man's time.

Speaker 16 (29:12):
How we're going get the cro circuits.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I will go and get the time of body. She
would public, get the scars franchised. We would go and
get the major attrack shots was going all came reno,
superb was OUs.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
You renown she's gonna buns on the mountain lands.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
You renob thats mane.

Speaker 24 (29:47):
God the man given nomansm man.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
He no mercer.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Back all you would the world.

Speaker 20 (31:00):
By this time we drop the fire.

Speaker 8 (31:06):
And this side.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
We need sometime.

Speaker 18 (31:17):
Well, I go the ws way and stop going.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Uh maybe then I made man sat where you know
where were they made man? While showing how to the

(31:50):
B side go away play right from the last word.
I know the way of the way from the light
the sast flight, so away I'm away from I had

(32:13):
waked up eating by so I'm the true Well it
was so sad down the world got some trains of

(32:47):
the way of the way. I drive from the best
way by the way the way. The song is not
my song. The boy is no choice about that. Ida

(33:08):
so you fall said, do say you ask me? Sn

(33:45):
w stay some quest.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, listeners, there is a tour coming up that we
know that a lot of you are very very excited about.
Big Country are coming back to Australia for the first
time I believe in about six years, and this is
going to be the greatest Hits tour. And we thought
today find out a little bit more about this amazing tour,
we would actually get one of the members of the band,
Bruce on the phone to chat about it. So welcome

(35:07):
to the program mate.

Speaker 25 (35:09):
Hi, how are y'all?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I am going very very well now. Like I said,
a lot of our listeners are very excited about this tour.
How are you feeling about heading back to Australia one
more time.

Speaker 26 (35:21):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to We had a tour
planned a couple of years ago, but it was it was.

Speaker 25 (35:30):
Just after it was just during the end of COVID,
which meant that way we couldn't do it. I think
I might get this round.

Speaker 26 (35:38):
The wrong way, but I think as sure we were
letting visitors in but not easy on our vice versa,
which meant that we couldn't actually come down.

Speaker 25 (35:46):
There and do the tour. And so it's basically this
one's been kind of postponed from then.

Speaker 26 (35:52):
So I'm so glad that we're now getting the chance
to come down there again.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
You've got so many Australians that love your music, and
I know yeah that when that tour was canceled because
of COVID, there were so many fancy that were disappointed.
Have you have you got fond memories of playing in
Australia and do you love the Australian fans that the
band have have had and have got from over the years.

Speaker 25 (36:18):
Yeah, I mean we should have been in Australia playing.

Speaker 26 (36:22):
I think it was maybe about eighty four or eighty
four eighty five, and I think we've got as far
as Japan, but you know, some of the guys you
know shoo.

Speaker 25 (36:33):
You know exhausted the time we got down there, you know.

Speaker 26 (36:37):
So unfortunately we couldn't get to Australia back back then
just because of the sheer amounty workload that we were.

Speaker 25 (36:44):
Doing and she really need a break anyway, so we couldn't.

Speaker 26 (36:50):
Do that first tour back in eighty for eighty five.
Subsequently we went down to Australia and eighty seven I
think or eighty eight, and we went down there to
shoot a couple of videos for two songs for the album,
which is called Piece in Our Time.

Speaker 25 (37:09):
We did a video for a song called King of
Emotion in the video.

Speaker 26 (37:12):
For Thirteen Valleys, which we did in a place called Wittingon,
which was where we.

Speaker 25 (37:21):
Stayed in pre for a couple of days, and we
flew out to.

Speaker 26 (37:24):
The Hardsley Range and stuff like that. That we did
a couple of videos, and then we didn't go back
there again just for reasons that we didn't, you know,
although we always wanted to go there, and it wasn't
until later on that we've got the chance to go
down there.

Speaker 25 (37:43):
So we've been going down there every eighteen months.

Speaker 26 (37:46):
I think we've been about three very four times, and
we go down to New Zealand as well, and it's
always a pleasure to be there. It's a tough one
getting there, but it's always a pleasure once you're there
to get rested up.

Speaker 25 (37:59):
I love it down there.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I love it, and there's always been that love affair
as well. I remember, like when I was growing up
and I'm shorrying my age here, but my dad would
put your cassette on in the car and listen. And
for some reason, when I was a child, I used
to think that in a Big Country was actually written
about Australia. We had a lot of Australian bands at
that point writing songs about Australia, and for some reason,

(38:23):
I always thought that song was about Australia when I
was a little kid. It was only when I got
when I was older that I realized that you guys
were from Scotland and you probably weren't writing about Australia
at all. But I think that was like a genuine
belief that a lot of Australians had at that time
as well.

Speaker 25 (38:38):
Had. I mean, I'm glad I'm glad.

Speaker 26 (38:41):
I'm glad you think that, because you know, it's just
one of those songs that you know, it's kind of
I suppose a little bit opened in tempertation as well.
So if you think that, then if you think that,
they that's what it's about, especially that age, So keep
thinking that abouts what it's about.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, Yeah, And like I said before, you guys have
got so many great hits as well. When you're putting
together a tour like this, is it difficult to work
out what tracks to play because there were so many
of your tracks that that have been popular here over
the years. Is it difficult to put together that set list?

Speaker 25 (39:19):
Kendy, Yes, and no.

Speaker 15 (39:20):
I mean.

Speaker 26 (39:22):
The strange thing is because well, a lot of if
you call them hits, of the songs that people recognize,
a lot of those songs are from the first album,
and so you tend to end up playing most of
the first album because of that reason, and also because
there's some great album tracks and live tracks in there
as well what people want to hear. So you always

(39:44):
end up playing about three quarters of the first album
and then you kind of work out what you're going
to play around around that, you know, and there's you know,
over the twenty years has been a vast and many songs, and.

Speaker 25 (39:56):
Sometimes you can.

Speaker 26 (39:57):
Use and maybe a fortieth anniversary of an album, so
you tend to put concentrate on that album as well.
And then there's always like fans' favorites that you can't
really leave out. And then you all these like B
sides that you know that we like doing and other
people like hearing as well, so it's it's not really difficult,
but you know, you've just got to try, and they'll

(40:19):
be too repetitive. Like at the moment, we've been over
in America and we've been doing a similar sort of set,
but back home we've been doing a different kind of
set just because we've got a new album coming out
next year, so we've been putting a few songs from
that as well.

Speaker 25 (40:36):
So you tend to tailor the set for different territories,
as it were.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Can you tell us a little bit about the new album?
What can we expect to hear on the new album?

Speaker 25 (40:48):
Well, the new album is basically the new lineup with
Tommy Reese and Chris and Jamie myself and back in
the day, there was a lot of songs that Stuart
and Tony and I what we're doing, and we're like,
never really finished. They were almost like they were demos.

Speaker 26 (41:09):
Like for instance, one song called went a Sky, which
was the B side of a song called Just a Shadow.

Speaker 25 (41:17):
We were doing the Steeltown record and.

Speaker 26 (41:19):
We've done the first two singles and then the label
Phonogram were putting out Just a Shadow, and then they realized,
holding a minute, we don't have any more songs for
the B side.

Speaker 25 (41:30):
So they got in touch with Student myself and said, look,
we need a new song for the B.

Speaker 26 (41:34):
Side because we don't have any more live tracks left.
So the two years going to a studio quick and
record a song for the B side.

Speaker 25 (41:41):
We read it yesterday. So Student Guy went into a
little studio.

Speaker 26 (41:45):
Endra and there a couple of guitars who played bass.
We didn't have drums. We had a keyboard, played the
snare on the keyboard and I played the bas rub
on the keyboard and we send it out the record
company and that was the B side the Sky. Now,
that was a song that was never developed. That was
a good song. So what I've done is I've taken

(42:08):
ten songs that I felt were like that. Not everything recordings.
I've obviously re recorded them again, but were the current
lineup were real instruments. So I've taken ten songs that
maybe big country die hards know that we're ended up
on B sides or extra tracks, but were never finished
and that the general public would probably have heard of

(42:30):
them anyway. So it's almost like a new album, but
with older songs that are quite obscure, and they're being
completely re recorded, and we've kind of taken to a
sort of final conclusion, sort of finished them like how
I thought they would be finished.

Speaker 25 (42:47):
But a lot of these songs that we did back
then were never for the public to hear because they.

Speaker 26 (42:52):
Were sketches, demos, and they tend to get put in
the bank until it's time to go and work on,
but whenever really got a chance to do that. So
I'm kind of, you know, tying up a few of
these things as it were, so that this is what
this album's kind of about.

Speaker 25 (43:09):
An album is called East World and Albio next year.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Awesome. I cannot wait for that, and we would definitely
be playing the singles off that on our show as well.
But I wanted to ask as well, you mentioned before
about that a lot of your big hits came off
The Crossing as an album. When you first sat down
to work on that album way back then, did you
did you guys realize that that was going to be

(43:34):
such a special album, Like, did you realize that the
that so many of the tracks off that would become
hits or did that come as a complete surprise for
you when it came out?

Speaker 15 (43:45):
What?

Speaker 25 (43:45):
What can it happened?

Speaker 15 (43:46):
Was?

Speaker 25 (43:47):
We were before that album was recorded, We student myself,
we got together.

Speaker 15 (43:55):
And I started what.

Speaker 26 (43:59):
Just right and recording songs and a little tape recorder,
a little four track tape recorder that Shore had, and
we were we started work on these songs and we
did about eight eight songs and they were just again
just demos and a cassette anything, but over half of

(44:19):
those songs ended up as being the backbone to the album,
The Crossing, orthough we didn't know at the time. And
then as when Tony and Mark joined the band and
we were doing those songs, and then as things progressed,
we started working on other songs that became in a
big country field of fire.

Speaker 25 (44:38):
Chance they kind of came later. You never know how
it's going to go.

Speaker 27 (44:46):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 15 (44:47):
We weren't.

Speaker 26 (44:49):
We played a lot of those songs live, So the
earlier tracks were playing them live, so they were kind
of easy to record. And then the other three that
I mentioned that they were the new ones, and the
kind of worked on them in the studio and they
were never really played live beforehand. And we were fortunate
that we had a great team behind us, were a

(45:10):
great management, a great road crew, and with a great
record label and record label Phonogram. A lot of record
labels get a lot of bad dress and stuff like that,
but we had this team, this record company, every department
in that company. You know, I just worked worked on
that album, and I just looked like.

Speaker 25 (45:30):
That I ever got the credit they deserve, you know.

Speaker 26 (45:36):
So we we can only write songs and make an
album and promote it as in touring and doing interviews
and stuff. But really the touring and the playing live
in front of people, so that the main thing, I.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Think, definitely, But you don't, you don't, I mean I've.

Speaker 26 (45:56):
Got I don't think because it was a fifth record,
I mean I've never done it before obviously, student it
was scared. Tony Mark and I had done a lot
of session work where people like Pete Townsend and that.
So they were seasoned session musicians. But this, this was
our first album. You kind of just you kind of
just hope, you know, you do an album, you do

(46:19):
for your first album, what's going to happen? I remember
getting getting getting a John Peel session at the first
time was on the radio, and that, you know, well,
that's it, you know, appear on the radio. You know,
I've done something that quite guided time. But then for
your first album like The Crossing to be as successful
as it was, and I'll say it was a team effort.

Speaker 15 (46:40):
It was just a bad it was.

Speaker 26 (46:41):
It was oh, you know, the whole thing, the whole
I see people working on it as well, you know.
So it was a great It was just a great.

Speaker 25 (46:52):
A great feeling, you know, a great thing that happened
for me personally and for you personally.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Now, what's it like going out and performing now tracks
some forty years later, because so many, so many artists
and bands fall on the way side after a couple
of singles, it must feel very special.

Speaker 25 (47:10):
The same, It's exactly the same, except that said the
different people.

Speaker 26 (47:15):
I still love performing those songs that I've never ever
been bored, those songs. For me, it's a labor of
love as well. And I'm really proud of my input
and I'm proud of the you know, everybody else is
in put into these songs.

Speaker 15 (47:30):
And the songs.

Speaker 26 (47:32):
A lot of these songs are kind of timeless anyway,
and I'll never get bored playing them. I just you know,
and when I go to places like Australian places, I
don't visit that often, it might be the one and
only time that people are going to get a chance
to see us, and you know, they've spent their hard
and cash they come alongside.

Speaker 25 (47:50):
I just want to make sure that every every show
we put on with we do one hundred and ten
hundred and twenty.

Speaker 26 (47:55):
Percent and we give it at all, you know, because
that's the worldly time a person can can see us,
you know, So play every every show like it's you know,
it's got to mean something every time.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Definitely. I appreciate mentioned before that you love Australia and
I noticed that you've got a little break between the
Melbourne and the Adelaide. So are you hoping to get
out there and do something away from the stage while
you're in Australia on those days off?

Speaker 26 (48:21):
Yeah, I mean like, I'm okay the terminal tourists and
I love, you know, to go to these places.

Speaker 25 (48:30):
I never plan anything, but you know, there's a day off.

Speaker 26 (48:34):
I'm not the kind of guy that wants to sit
in a hotel room and watch football on TV or anything.
I like, I like to get out there and and
you know, just see see what arms, and I'll have
a plan anything.

Speaker 25 (48:45):
I remember the last time, I think we were in
Path and we're a day off.

Speaker 26 (48:51):
I think my son Jamie, who's in the by the
roommates though what we did today that I said.

Speaker 25 (48:59):
I don't know nothing, and he goes, right, we're going
to the zoo.

Speaker 15 (49:02):
How do you mean? Like it was a phone the zoo.

Speaker 27 (49:05):
And they're going to take us around the zoo.

Speaker 25 (49:09):
It sounds brilliant. So it's just things like that. You know,
I'm a tourist, fellow in the road.

Speaker 15 (49:14):
I like to go.

Speaker 26 (49:15):
I like to go around this like what you call
the mob shops is at the second time sort of
stores and music shops. And then I just get to
follow my nose. And I've got I've got a lot
of friends down there with my Bama grade. I've got
jobs in there, that's always good to catch up with them.

Speaker 25 (49:31):
So I don't like to set the river and vegetate.
I like to get out there.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Awesome.

Speaker 15 (49:38):
Well you might be.

Speaker 25 (49:40):
Wandering around aimlessly.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Well, we can't wait to be able to see you
in Australia very very soon. And I guess to finish
off the interview, what would you like to side of
people out there who are heading along to the shows.
Do you have a special message for them?

Speaker 26 (49:57):
Don't know what a special message, just you know, just
come on long and enjoy yourselves. And you know, I
just remember the songs are the stars, you know, so
just just come along and because at the end of
the day that that's what it's all about. It's just about,
you know, entertainment, and just come along, enjoy yourselves and

(50:18):
you know, have a good time and get up safe.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I've never a singular back.

Speaker 28 (50:28):
That's when I have these and another brother start and
do another season.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Pass guy.

Speaker 28 (50:41):
I never took the smile away from anybody's base.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
And that's a desperate way to look for someone who
was in a big country.

Speaker 28 (50:52):
Dreams stay when you like a lover by smart of mountains,
stay up, not not gonna believe dream and things are
really a bunch of stay well, I'm gonna expect them

(51:31):
to go pours in the desert, but I can live
and read and see.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Those side annoying time in a big country dreams.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
Stay with you like a lover's bars by from mountains onside.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Stay in a big country dream, Stay with you like
anber stories by from mount until the side. Stay some

(52:14):
saying that look kind of here. It doesn't feed you
because it's happened. Do you mean you've been discarded? Come
on streaming right the bays?

Speaker 25 (52:52):
How many expects you?

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I would say theser, But I can live and breathe
and see the side.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
Little big country dream, you stay with you like a
lover's eyes by the mountainside.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Stay little big country dream.

Speaker 7 (53:17):
You stay with you like a lover's eyes by the mountainside.

Speaker 21 (53:24):
Stay under.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
A big country dream. You stay with you like a lover.
Spies by mountainside, Stay.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
And welcome back to Subcultures. Very very special Rock Icons episode.
It's time for you to introduce us to your top
three icons and why they are your top three icons.

Speaker 27 (54:09):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Very difficult to pick this top three because I had
a real fight with it because there are so many
worth mentioning. I decided not to go for the heavier
ones because I feel like we would cover that elsewhere,
because you know, acts like night Wish and Taria Turnin
would you know, absolutely make the lists. So I also

(54:32):
decided not to include one or two of my absolute
favorites from Japan Fyshiki and a Cheer, because just for
the general audience is probably going to be familiar with
bigger Western band. So I'm going to narrow it down
to the Westerns, and I'm gonna do a couple of

(54:53):
honorable mentions like Fleetwood, mac Toto, Blur, who I I
really wanted to mention, but I went elsewhere, and also
Sly and the Family Stone. I think they're very important
figures in rock and roll. You know, it's worth mentioning,
like so many other things as well. My top three

(55:19):
are I'm going to start with the the Vinyls from Australia.
I had to have an Aussie representative in there. Of course.
It's just an absolute legendary kind of act and sound.
I love, you know, Chrissy as the lead vocalist on

(55:42):
this crew. It's so good. There's something unique about their
sound that's always worked for me. Next, I'm going to
mention Mike and Tina Turner. I grew up hearing Tina
Turner all the time and to me, she's got that
rock vibe and then discovering her origins with Ike Turner,

(56:05):
even though it was a bit of a troubling story,
their iconic sound is legendary to rock and roll. So
that is why I'm putting in icon Tina Turner, and
I think everybody will know the important kind of tracks
in there. And I'm putting in maybe one of my
favorites as well. And lastly of my top three, I'm

(56:27):
going to mention The Searchers, which is a bit of
an out there choice. In English group, they're kind of
considered a Mosey beat I think the kind of genre
was called. But they did iconic sounds from the sixties,
that kind of Beatles era. They covered the same song

(56:49):
that the Beatles covered in fact, Twist and Shout, something
they're known for. But that's not the track I'm going
to play for you. One last honorable mention, because we're
talking about iconic rock and roll, here is sister Rosetta Tharp.
Her influence on rock and roll. She's basically considered like

(57:10):
the godmother of rock and roll, so I just wanted
to give her an honorable mention in this But my
top three the Vinyls, the Searches, and Icon Tina Turner.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
They are great picks. Well, let's get back to the
music HALLI let's jump into some of the music from
those artists that you just mentioned.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
No, no, I may go have it.

Speaker 7 (58:04):
You dang your Johnny Best, I may have it. You
dog your mommy desk, I make you have it. You
do your daddy taking man? You do you feel.

Speaker 25 (58:35):
You you don't.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Give you dump.

Speaker 15 (58:42):
Let me know my.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Guts.

Speaker 19 (58:48):
You mommy john Johnny.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Foot foot, I may go have it.

Speaker 8 (58:56):
You nag your johny des I have it.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
You know your mama said, I may go happy you
not your don He take a b I may go happy, Donna.

(01:00:01):
I'm so ham. Turn your mama days. I'm so ham
turn your Donny downa bear.

Speaker 8 (01:00:11):
A helmy.

Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
You don your Dona hermijn No, your mama, don cat me,
your Hammad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Your Donny dot your bed. I want doing, oh boys, and.

Speaker 19 (01:00:52):
Now I want a man around, don't you at the e.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I'm just a repers to her. Watch all the boys.

Speaker 19 (01:01:02):
In town with this person talk to you gave me
a bird.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I'm a man despreend.

Speaker 19 (01:01:13):
I'm a been pretty love.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I'm a Ben Desprey. I'm a new been pretty love.
I was always driving home.

Speaker 29 (01:01:25):
Oh the boys in town, but they never telephone gave
me earthbad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
I think the pretty bony y're not like pcast you
hurt a matrimony. They have all my protest.

Speaker 29 (01:01:46):
I'm a new bend Beware, I'm a new man pretty love.
I'm a new Ben despread I'm been pretty love.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
And tiget food.

Speaker 30 (01:02:15):
I'm him at antil.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I'm like two bucks too, some box till.

Speaker 8 (01:02:55):
Some bos to.

Speaker 15 (01:02:58):
Some bostock.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Don't see out part you know.

Speaker 19 (01:03:27):
Every now and then I think you might like to
hear something from us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Nice and easy.

Speaker 31 (01:03:34):
There's just one thing, you see, we never ever do
nothing nice and easy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
We always do it nice rough.

Speaker 19 (01:03:47):
We're gonna take the beginning of this song and do
it easy, and then we're gonna do the finish.

Speaker 12 (01:03:55):
We do proud, rolling.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Rolling. Listen to the story.

Speaker 32 (01:04:06):
Now leapt up the job of the sea, working for
made every nine day, and I never lost one billing asleep,
and I was worrying by the way the things bad again.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
He will keep on turn for the prowl Erithy Ball.

Speaker 19 (01:04:36):
We're rolling, rolling again, rolling on the river, clean, a
lot of plates and.

Speaker 33 (01:04:48):
Memphis, and I popped a lot of things down in
New Wallan, but I never saw the good side of
the city.

Speaker 19 (01:05:01):
It's the ride on the river boat Queen will keep.

Speaker 18 (01:05:07):
Boone turning, Oh the bride.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
American farmer.

Speaker 34 (01:05:13):
And we're rolling, rolling, rolling on the river, rolling, rolling,
rou rolling on the rig.

Speaker 19 (01:05:33):
No, my laughing good job in the city, working on
men every.

Speaker 32 (01:05:53):
Night that day, and I never lost one minute of
sleepless warming out the way thing.

Speaker 31 (01:05:59):
Might happen be will before turn and turnings five people, food, riders.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
Falling, rawlings, crawling on the river, rolling, boozing, rolling can
crawling on.

Speaker 19 (01:06:14):
The river, riding clean, A lot of plans in min shop.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
My body tamed out in New Orleans.

Speaker 31 (01:06:37):
But I never saw foot side of the city until like,
it's the riding over the river Boatlin then why hotwn
and turnings, prime ye burners, rolling.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Rolling, skin and crawling on the river, rolling.

Speaker 8 (01:06:54):
Rolling, rowling on the river.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
River to stop.

Speaker 35 (01:07:05):
Yeah, if you come down to the river and I can't,
you're gonna find some people you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Have to worry him.

Speaker 19 (01:07:20):
You got the money and the brief along the river.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I has to do do then, Well in Monti.

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
And Sturning, I'm having to over burners, rollings, say, rolling
skin rolling off the river, rolling, rolling, rolling off the river.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Well I just stood stood.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
All right, I'll roll and rolling on the river when
I'm I'm going.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Going, going up. Don't give your love to sex Bed.
She's the sister of the little side.

Speaker 8 (01:08:26):
Don't try your love.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Sex right as well. Child.

Speaker 36 (01:08:34):
She's got this longe my hair and it's hanging all
down with that long pretty days and she works just like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
You're not enough.

Speaker 31 (01:08:46):
I'm stepped up love sid She's not all about your love.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Won't you that?

Speaker 8 (01:08:52):
Don't you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Don't give your love to sexy Oda.

Speaker 19 (01:08:57):
She's a sister of the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Don't try your love sexy.

Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
You ride as well, dry flats.

Speaker 36 (01:09:11):
Saved with sat cheese a look and you never though
the way would lost your wis. But I'll tell you
to don't give your love sexy Adam, Jesus not of
flat little finch.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Don't try your love Sexia. You right as well, dry fine.

Speaker 36 (01:09:55):
You gotta be a well sexy Adams. Try to make
some sweet cakes. Her books can be the sin.

Speaker 18 (01:10:02):
Because I love speaking.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
We love six had seen the sister of a fine.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
A long time. I'm trying your love six right as well.
Try spot. I took my troubles down too mad and room.
You know that gypsy with the gold.

Speaker 37 (01:10:33):
Capsule, she's got a pad down a very bought by
set little bottles up love potion over night.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I told her that I was a fun with Gypsy.
I've been this ra.

Speaker 19 (01:10:51):
Since nineteen fifty six.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
She loved at the ball and she made on that
other side. She said, what you need is love potion
nomo night. She been down ten or riving. Gave me
a wink, said I want to.

Speaker 37 (01:11:09):
Make it up right here in the scene. This smell
I turping China looked like in there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
All right, old man knows, I close my eyes. I
too good drinking. I didn't know if we Thursday.

Speaker 37 (01:11:22):
All night I started kissing everything inside. But when I
guess the cow down a very good right, he wrote
my little bottle luck.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Love potion nomo night. Alright, old man knows, I close
my eyes. I too good.

Speaker 37 (01:11:55):
I didn't know if Bedther's day. All night I started
getting everything in silence. But when I guess the car
down of thirty more five.

Speaker 38 (01:12:06):
Peoplet my little bottle of love potion number night, Love
potion number nine, Love potion number nine, Love Potion number nine.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I saw it you do. I sold your face? What's
my salar? And I I had to go away? If
you get down on my nsa that been going still.

Speaker 7 (01:12:53):
Again loves dreams.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Because I'm o mypi.

Speaker 15 (01:13:04):
The teaser go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
There. No, that was small. I'm home. Didn't re at
to doing she's fasting her burdy let her look go ahead,
take his mother instead. Come on their shoes.

Speaker 8 (01:13:23):
Yes, I s.

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
I can get down on their days. That's how I red.
She'd be love me, don't day. Why can't I stop?

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
I'm telling myself I'm wrong, I'm roll so low. Why
can't I stand up?

Speaker 15 (01:13:50):
Me?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Tell myself I'm strong.

Speaker 8 (01:13:53):
Because I saw it too day. I saw herm brace.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
It wasn't brace silent?

Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
Run away.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Away, Well, listeners, there is a tour coming up that

(01:14:45):
we know that you are very very excited about. Sebastian
Bark is coming to Melbourne and Australia and the rest
of Australia as well. I should say for this very
very exciting tour which we'll see him perform in full
the iconic skid Row album. He's also got something very
very special for Melbourne as well that we'll talk about
a little bit later. So without any other further adury,

(01:15:06):
let's welcome him to the show. Welcome to the show, Sebastian.

Speaker 18 (01:15:10):
Hello, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
I am going really really well, mate. I am so
excited to be able to chat to you today because
I've got to say, I am one of those people
that is so excited about this tour and I've got
to say, let's start there. Tell us a little bit
about this tour. Where did this idea come from to
go back and record such an icon and to perform
such an iconic album.

Speaker 27 (01:15:34):
Well, the album skid Row came out in nineteen eighty nine,
so the thirtieth anniversary was twenty nineteen, and we did
a full US tour doing the first album in its entirety,
and we had an Australian tour booked to do it

(01:15:54):
in twenty twenty, but then twenty twenty happened and we
couldn't leave the house, so the tour got canceled until now.
I haven't been to Australia since then, so it's been
a long time, and this is the only place we're
doing the first album is Australia because we were supposed

(01:16:18):
to do it in twenty twenty and the promoter said, please,
can you do it six years later? So he said, okay,
no problem, we'll do it because we promised we were
going to back in twenty twenty.

Speaker 15 (01:16:35):
But since twenty twenty, I have.

Speaker 27 (01:16:36):
A brand new album called Child Within the Man, which
has been extremely well received, and along with the first album,
we'll be doing some songs from Child within the Man
as well.

Speaker 15 (01:16:51):
So it's going to be a rock and night in
Australia for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Yeah. Well, I was going to mention your new album
in a little bit, but you've mentioned it now I'll
talk about it. It is an amazing album. Tell us
a little bit about this album and what kind of
things you were talking about and thinking about when you
first sat down to work on this album.

Speaker 19 (01:17:12):
Well, I come from.

Speaker 15 (01:17:15):
This ac DC school of I just want to.

Speaker 27 (01:17:20):
Put more music into my catalog that fits with the
other albums I've made. And you know, for a guy
like me, there's no difference really in what I did
on the first record, skid Row or the last record.

Speaker 15 (01:17:39):
Like I.

Speaker 27 (01:17:41):
Find songs that I love, be it eighteen in Life
or what do I got to lose? And if I
love a song, I can sing it in a way
that I can't hide my excitement. That's just so my
that's the way I am. That's my personality. So I'm

(01:18:05):
very emotional, not just in music, but as a human being.
I wear my heart and my sleeve and you can
feel it in the music. When I record. I'm not
capable of recording a song that I don't feel in

(01:18:26):
my heart. So all the songs that I record, it's
almost like I have to record them. I say, oh man,
here's another one like this on the new album hold
On to the Dream is one of my favorite recordings
I've ever made, or going back to the first skin
Row album, I.

Speaker 15 (01:18:44):
Remember You is an iconic.

Speaker 27 (01:18:48):
Song that has lasted to test of time a million
times over.

Speaker 15 (01:18:53):
People love I Remember You and You've Gone Wild and.

Speaker 27 (01:19:01):
Eighteen in Life, and uh so I'm happy to do
those thirty six years.

Speaker 15 (01:19:06):
Later, combined with brand new music that I just put out. Definitely,
so you're gonna get.

Speaker 27 (01:19:14):
You're gonna get thirty six years of rock in one
in one show.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
I always think that music is such an interesting thing
because obviously you've got that gift to be able to
write music, and you've got an amazing voice, so there's
a gift there, but it's a gift that also helps
other people. Tracks like Hold Onto the Dream are such
an inspirational track for people out there, and also that
the memories that your music has provided over the years

(01:19:43):
as well as a gift to many people. Do you
often do you often reflect on that that this is
a gift that helps other people as well.

Speaker 27 (01:19:52):
It's just music has a life of its own. Like
music is such a visceral art form, Like I could
watch an old movie right like I can watch Jaws
or Close Encounters or Star Wars and I will get
a feeling from that that's pretty heavy. But it's nothing

(01:20:14):
compared to when I listened to rock and roll out Law,
I Rose Tattoo, or or we Can't Be Beaten or
shouted out Loud, I kissed, like what music. I don't
know about you, but when I hear a song that
I've been listening to for my whole life, I still

(01:20:36):
feel the same feelings as when I first heard it.
When I hear it, it's the weirdest, most powerful thing.
Music is still powerful, and when you read all the
drama between band members, including my own.

Speaker 39 (01:20:53):
Band, it's indicative of how powerful the music is that
we all feel so attached to it that we argue
about it.

Speaker 15 (01:21:08):
We're like, no, it's got to be like this.

Speaker 27 (01:21:10):
No, it's like it's like because we all love it
so much, so we want it to be the best
it can be. But that requires compromise, but nobody wants
to compromise, so it's a weird It's I think the
whole drama of bands breaking up and not getting along,

(01:21:34):
I think that is directly relative to how much the
musicians love the music itself, like they'll fight for it,
you know, to the point of breaking up the band,
which makes no sense at all.

Speaker 40 (01:21:52):
That's it.

Speaker 27 (01:21:53):
But you know, when you're that passionate about something, sometimes
a clouds your.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Vision definitely, And you talk about memories there. My memory
of that original skid Row album is I was at
primary school at the time, and I had a dad
who listened to a lot of rock music, and I
can remember him bringing the vinyl home and us listening
to it, and within a week I was wearing a
skid Row t shirt to school, which was a weird

(01:22:20):
thing because most of the kids at our school were
into pop music and stuff like that, so it was very,
very different. But that wakes that memory inside of me.
What kind of memories does it wake inside of you
going back and performing such an iconic album as well?

Speaker 15 (01:22:36):
Well, it's very innocent.

Speaker 27 (01:22:37):
The feeling of the first record, skid Row, is the
feeling of innocence because when we recorded it, I was
still a teenager or maybe twenty.

Speaker 15 (01:22:47):
I was nineteen or twenty, and so I was just
out of my teens.

Speaker 27 (01:22:53):
When I'm saying eighteen in life, I was almost eighteen.
So it's like it's a feeling of innocence. And as
a vocalist, you know, sometimes we do Slave to the
Grind in its entirety, which we're going to do in
the second night in Melbourne, Sorry Melbourne, not Melbourne, Melvin.

(01:23:18):
I see, I've been there before. But what I did
to the album, slave to the Grind, it feels. What
I learned about the two records is that the first
record is more about singing and the second record is
more about screaming. Because a song like can't Stand the

(01:23:43):
Heartache on the first record is very poppy, like when
you say, the kids in your school in elementary we're
listening to pop music. In nineteen eighty nine, skid wrote
was pop music. It wasn't like it was on a
hair metal chart or anything. It was on the main chart, like.

Speaker 15 (01:24:06):
With Janet Jackson and mister Mister.

Speaker 27 (01:24:11):
And uh you know Milly Vanilly, Like we were on
the chart. It wasn't a metal chart. It was it
was the pop music chart, which we were on. So
it was all pop music then.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:24:27):
But you know what, what feelings does it bring up?
Just just a feeling of innocence and and and and and.
At the time when we made that album, we were
best friends.

Speaker 27 (01:24:41):
Like if you go on the internet, you'll read, oh,
we never got along, we were never friends. What a
bunch of garbage that is. That's just rewriting history. We
were best buddies recording this record, and I can hear
I can hear it in the grooves of the music.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Sebastian, you mentioned that the difference between skid Row and
Slave to the Grind as albums. Can you tell us
a little bit about that difference. What happened there back
in those days for that difference to happen. Was there
something there that made that difference.

Speaker 27 (01:25:17):
Well, what happened was is that these were the days
of MTV or in Australia Countdown.

Speaker 15 (01:25:25):
I remember that sit.

Speaker 27 (01:25:28):
Where they played the videos all the time and the
songs eighteen in Life, and I remember you were such
big video hits on TV that we really got labeled
as a ballad band.

Speaker 15 (01:25:43):
And we were in our early twenties and we were all.

Speaker 27 (01:25:47):
Full of pisson vinegar and we didn't want to be
thought of as a ballad band. We wanted to be
a rock band or a metal band. So when we
had a chance to do the next record, we said,
fuck this ballad shit, We're gonna fucking rock as hard
as we can and we did.

Speaker 15 (01:26:09):
So that's the story there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
So for you now, as a performer, do you have
to be in a different frame of mind to go
out and perform Slave to the Grind than what you
do on the nights when you're performing the skid Row
album in full?

Speaker 27 (01:26:24):
Yeah, Slave of the Grind is dirtier. The first record,
skid Row is cleaner. Like I talk about that song
can't Stand the Heartache. If you listen to that song,
it is absolutely pure clean vocals.

Speaker 15 (01:26:41):
There's no rasp.

Speaker 27 (01:26:43):
It's all just pure clean singing, and there's not.

Speaker 15 (01:26:48):
A lot of that on Slave to.

Speaker 27 (01:26:49):
The Grind, although I would say in a darkened Room
is kind of like the first record, the feeling of that.

Speaker 15 (01:26:59):
But you know, well, I mean at my age, I'm
fifty seven.

Speaker 27 (01:27:03):
When I'm singing these songs, I go on stage trying
to sing it as cleanly as possible because if I
go to dirty, I notice it the next day, the
next night, and I'm playing every night yep. So so
my technique is to not push it too hard where

(01:27:25):
I blow my shit out. And it is a fine line.
It's a fine line between screaming a song like living
on a chain gang and go into the football game
and screaming for your favorite team and having no voice
the next day.

Speaker 15 (01:27:41):
I can't. I can't have no voice the next day, Yeah,
because I have to think this. So that's the challenge.
That's that's the challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Definitely. It's funny that it's funny that you mentioned football
stadiums there, because that kind of touches on my next question.
I wanted to ask back when these albums first came out,
were you aware of the popular already of the band
in Australia, because of course there were your music was
played at football stadiums here in breaks and stuff like that.

(01:28:09):
Were you aware of just how successful skid Row was
in Australia at that time?

Speaker 27 (01:28:14):
Well, I was definitely aware of it when we did
the in store at the Record Store in Sydney and
like the whole city came down and the police had
to put us in the basement because the fans were
bursting in the doors, in the front.

Speaker 15 (01:28:30):
Door and the back door.

Speaker 27 (01:28:32):
People were getting injured, getting trampled trying to get.

Speaker 15 (01:28:36):
Into the store. The cops had to get.

Speaker 27 (01:28:40):
Us out of there early. It was all on the
news in Australia. You can even see it on our
home video. Say can you scream if you had a
VHS player still? Ye, because it did never never came
out on DVD because we're really good businessman anyways. So

(01:29:01):
that day, for sure, I knew how popular we are.
I also knew how popular skinned Row was when we
played Eastern Creek and Calder Park with guns and roses
and rose tattoo and one hundred thousand people came out
every night and they were there as much for us
as anybody else, and those were iconic legendary shows in Austria.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Colder Park, that concert that was actually my first concert
that I ever went to. My cousin snuck me in
and I was massively underaged, but I got snuck into it,
and that I don't know if you realize that concert
has become iconic in Australian music folklore because of the
heat of that day with those kinds of things like

(01:29:49):
the police coming to the in store. Was that kind
of thing happening for you in America at that time
as well, or was that just something that was kind
of unique to Australia.

Speaker 15 (01:30:00):
It was more.

Speaker 27 (01:30:00):
Frenzied in Australia because our album came out in eighty
nine January of.

Speaker 15 (01:30:07):
Eighty nine, so it had been and we didn't.

Speaker 27 (01:30:10):
Get to Australia until nineteen ninety, so that gave it
like two years to like.

Speaker 15 (01:30:17):
Percolate, and.

Speaker 27 (01:30:21):
I mean, we had craziness all over. But it reminded
me like when Kiss came to Australia in nineteen eighty
for Unmasked, and it was like the Kiss Mania of Australia.

Speaker 15 (01:30:36):
It was like skid Row Mania when we first got there.

Speaker 27 (01:30:40):
Because we had already had all our videos playing on
the TV, and you can't you can't discount the effect
that being on TV all day every day, like that's
that's really a heavy exposure.

Speaker 15 (01:31:00):
Sure.

Speaker 27 (01:31:01):
So, so Australia had been watching You've Gone Wild video,
eighteen in Life video, Piece of Me video. I remember
you video all four of those by the time we
played there. So I think that's why it was so crazy.
Like in America when we started out, there was no videos.
You know, we were playing every city in America and

(01:31:23):
then it it you know, it was more of a
slower thing, but Australia was like a waterfall or an
avalanche of you.

Speaker 8 (01:31:31):
Know, boom.

Speaker 15 (01:31:32):
Here they are.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
I know with the shows as well, you're going to
be talking a little bit about your your life as well.
And I know that there was another resurgence for you
here in Australia as well when you took up your
role in Gilmore Girls, which kind of opened up you
and your music to a completely different audience. That was
the number one show here in Australia for years and
years and years. And it did did you find that

(01:31:57):
yourself that had opened up your music to it a
whole range of people that had maybe only heard your
music in Passing before.

Speaker 27 (01:32:06):
Yes, because I remember the last time I was in Australia,
which is maybe seven or eight years ago. I got
to my hotel room in Perth and I put the
TV on in my hotel room and the first.

Speaker 15 (01:32:19):
Thing that I saw was me on The Gilmore.

Speaker 21 (01:32:21):
Girls in Perth.

Speaker 25 (01:32:22):
But I was like, Holy moly, Like.

Speaker 15 (01:32:27):
I couldn't believe how far away I was.

Speaker 27 (01:32:30):
From home and people are watching me on TV in Perth,
not even Sydney, but just like way out.

Speaker 15 (01:32:37):
So that was crazy. But I got another thing to say.

Speaker 18 (01:32:42):
I hear just as much.

Speaker 27 (01:32:46):
About another show I did called The Trailer Park Boys,
which is huge in Australia.

Speaker 15 (01:32:55):
And in Canada and in America all over the world.

Speaker 18 (01:32:59):
So you know that appeals to.

Speaker 27 (01:33:01):
A different crowd, But people like The Trailer Park Boys
just as much.

Speaker 15 (01:33:11):
I find.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Is that something that you have enjoyed over the years
as well on being able to do television outside of music.

Speaker 15 (01:33:19):
I like making things. I like making stuff.

Speaker 27 (01:33:22):
I like making records, I like making T shirts, I
like making videos, I like making TV shows. I enjoy
making things and a show like Gilmore Girls. It was
an hour long show, which is rare these days, and
it had so much dialogue.

Speaker 15 (01:33:45):
That I had to.

Speaker 27 (01:33:45):
Memorize that it was really a show. But they don't
have a lot of shows like that anymore, you know,
with tons of dialogue and a theme song at the beginning.

Speaker 15 (01:33:58):
And so I feel very lucky yep, to be a
part of a team.

Speaker 25 (01:34:06):
Making things.

Speaker 15 (01:34:09):
Like that TV show.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Definitely, and Sebastin. Something I didn't know when I started
to do my research for this interview was that you
were actually responsible for the artwork on the Slave to
the Grind album as well. Tell us a little bit
about that. You said you love making things, but your
artwork is brilliant as well.

Speaker 15 (01:34:28):
When did you I didn't.

Speaker 27 (01:34:30):
I didn't.

Speaker 25 (01:34:30):
I didn't paint that.

Speaker 15 (01:34:31):
My dad painted that play fathered.

Speaker 25 (01:34:34):
Yeah not me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Awesome, But yeah, you said about making things, tell us
a little bit about that creativity, Like, is that something
that you just find in your life that you can't
turn off?

Speaker 21 (01:34:46):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (01:34:47):
Absolutely. I was made to rock. I don't know how
to I was built to do this. You know.

Speaker 27 (01:34:57):
I've been going through really difficult family times lately, but
that has nothing, no effect on my music. It's almost
like my career is unstoppable. It's very but you know,
I think it's just the nature of rock and roll,
and you're like a survivor.

Speaker 15 (01:35:16):
Like when I look at Angus Young and.

Speaker 27 (01:35:19):
Brian Johnson still rock and I mean compared to those guys,
I'm just getting started.

Speaker 15 (01:35:26):
Like, get used to me, man.

Speaker 27 (01:35:27):
Because I ain't gone nowhere except for Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
That's the best I know. We are running out of
time very very quickly. But I had a couple of
questions I wanted to ask before I go. First of all,
you mentioned before about putting thirty six years worth of
music into these shows. The other part where you're going
to be playing some of your own music from over
the years, aside from skid Row, how are you going

(01:35:55):
to pick what you play? Because you have got such
an amazing back catalog of music that you can he's from.

Speaker 27 (01:36:02):
Well, you know, if the set is an hour and
a half, then I pick an hour and a half
where of the songs and the first album is about
forty five minutes, So if we do every song from
the first record, that's half of a show. So I
gotta do other songs. So you can probably bet that

(01:36:23):
monkey Business will be one of them.

Speaker 24 (01:36:27):
You know.

Speaker 27 (01:36:27):
I like to give the people what they want. At
the same time, I have to be excited about it myself.

Speaker 15 (01:36:35):
There's a song on.

Speaker 27 (01:36:36):
A new record called what Do I Got to Lose?
That is the closest thing that I've had to a
hit song since thirty six years ago, So you can
you can bet you're going to be.

Speaker 15 (01:36:49):
Hearing that one.

Speaker 27 (01:36:50):
I wrote that song with Miles Kennedy and it did
very well on the radio here in the USA, and
I think Miles Kennedy's songwriting had a lot to do
with that.

Speaker 15 (01:37:05):
But you know, it's just a great rock shows.

Speaker 27 (01:37:09):
It's no computers, no backing vocals on the tape, no
click track.

Speaker 15 (01:37:15):
Well there is a click track, and the click track
is you Australia. You are the click track. We walk
out there and we feel the.

Speaker 27 (01:37:25):
Vibe of the realm and we don't rely on any
technology for that. We just actually walk out there and
feel it. I know we're crazy, but that's all we know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Well, mate, I guess to finish off, what would you
like to say to all of your Australian fans out
here before they go out and grab tickets to these
amazing shows. I know the first show in Melbourne has
already sold out. But what would you like to say
to people? What would you like to say to the
people out there who have bought tickets or are about
to buy tickets.

Speaker 27 (01:38:00):
I would say to those people, thank you very much
for thirty six years of rock and roll. And I
would say, and if you like the first record, skid Roll,
check out the new record, Child within the Man. I
can guarantee you you will like it if you like
the first record. And if you don't, I'll eat a bug.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Kaen Yeah mad that new bad, no good.

Speaker 18 (01:39:00):
He had no man, not the strings of social man.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
The world like your child? May you crowd Dad, Fay say,
like your child.

Speaker 7 (01:39:26):
Cry Damn, says Hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
And they so Jasoline, you chose his phone.

Speaker 41 (01:39:51):
Gas clean, they said, They shove the riches a wild world,
the very.

Speaker 7 (01:40:00):
Consule, thank sod above the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Body, Jim, think of nine when.

Speaker 8 (01:40:11):
The hour job ain't the.

Speaker 21 (01:40:26):
Job, and night accid will happen.

Speaker 18 (01:40:46):
By an ancient sat whims.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
Like your chadding.

Speaker 7 (01:41:18):
Your crop, Thank day after it's like your dad.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Your crop.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
And welcome back to subculture. Yes, it's our special rock
Icons episode. And now I'm going to nominate my three
rock icons. And I've realized I've kind of gone back
in time for most of these, which is weird because
I also love a lot of modern day music as well.
But for me, an icon is someone that's had longevity. Now,

(01:42:29):
I'm going to start off with my favorite band from
when I was a kid. I think I've told the
story before my first day of prep. I went after
school with my Kiss lunchbox and my Kiss t shirt on,
and we had Kiss icy poles in the fridge from
when I got home. Yes, my first is Kiss.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Now, I feel like this is about to be a
story of why you were teased about being Kissy feast boy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
But I think it's really hard to go past Kiss
as rock icons. I mean a lot of people laugh
and say, oh, they're music so simple to play, and well,
I know guitarists and say the same about the Beatles.
But with Kiss, I think they became a global band.
Like every country of the world kind of worshiped at

(01:43:15):
the feet of Kiss, like whether it was South America,
even Japan. Like a lot of my Kiss vinyl comes
from Japan because Kiss released albums there that didn't get
released anywhere else because they had this huge following in Japan.
So Kiss are my first my first rock icons. I'm

(01:43:35):
also going to put the Rolling Stones in there as well.
I know a lot of people say the Rolling Stones
and the Beatles who were the better bands. Well, I'm
actually going to go with the Rolling Stones because I
think the Rolling Stones are one of those bands that
not only are still around and making music. And I
know that's not the Beatles' fault that they're not making
music anymore, but the Rolling Stones are still making music,

(01:44:00):
but one of those bands, like we talked about before,
where their sound has changed over the years. Like if
you go back to tracks like Gimme Shelter, it was
a very bluesy kind of gospel feel to it, and
then you go and listen to tracks like Painted Black
and you've got that pure rock sound of the nineteen

(01:44:21):
seventies coming through on that track. And of course they're
a band that have done a lot of collaborations over
the years as well. I did a live cinema experience
a few years ago, and we're teaming up with artists
like Jack White and people like that. They're a band
that's remained relevant and they kind of put us rock

(01:44:41):
up on a pedestal at a time where everybody was
worshiping at the feet of brit Rock. So I'm going
to put the Rolling Stones in there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
My last I absolutely agree think and think for you
for that, because they were trying to fight for a
place on my list, and then when I saw your list,
it's like, great, I've executed three and have to look.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
At my last artist I'm going to put on there
is Slash. Yes, I'm putting Slash on as an individual
artist rather than Guns and Roses because when you look
at Slash's career, yes, he of course has started his
career with Guns and Roses. Well, he actually didn't. He
was in a couple of bands before that, but Guns
and Roses was where he rose to popularity. But then

(01:45:22):
over the years he's also done Velvet Revolver, He's done
Slash's Snake Pit, which was a super group he put together.
He's done Miles Kennedy and the Conspirators where he's the
main guitarist. But he's also worked with a bunch of
other artists as well, and I think this is what
makes him so special. He was a session guitarist on

(01:45:43):
Michael Jackson's Dangerous album. He's also played with Michael Jackson
live a number of times over the years, including the
infamous ninety five MTV Music Awards appearance. He's also worked
with people like Bob Dylan, Lenny Kravitz, Paul Rodgers, Carol King,

(01:46:06):
Alice Cooper. He's even worked with people like Flamenco artists
Marta Sanchez. There are just so many different artists that
he's worked with. But also he's come on board for
working on soundtracks as well. He worked with Old Dirty
Bastard the Rapper on a soundtrack. He's also done work

(01:46:26):
for Quentin Tarantino. He worked with Insane Clown Posse on
a soundtrack a few years ago. It's like there's there
seems to be so much that he's done in his
life that I had to put him down as a
rock icon.

Speaker 15 (01:46:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
He was one of the first people I thought of
as well. So as soon as I saw that you
were gonna mention him, it was like, okay, cool, I
can dig up a couple more people because I wanted
to go a bit deeper as well and make myself
remember a few names. But absolutely slash epitomizers, rock icon
yeah every.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Way, and breaking news as well. He's got a new
live album. It's about to come out as well, which
I can't wait to hear. But let's jump in now
into my rock icons that I've nominated. Here's some music
from my list.

Speaker 8 (01:47:38):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
I want to give it.

Speaker 8 (01:47:42):
All to you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
In the so Much Job, I want to say it
at your be This girl I was made with, girl
you were bade for me almost mad you love not.

Speaker 7 (01:48:22):
Me, Guys, I want to see your ride, feel the magan.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
There's something mad.

Speaker 15 (01:48:35):
Drive you wise.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
And die.

Speaker 8 (01:48:41):
We're gonna make it.

Speaker 20 (01:48:42):
All come true.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
This girl you were made for me and the girl
I was made for you, Alma.

Speaker 15 (01:49:01):
The not.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
Enough made do the ba almost.

Speaker 8 (01:49:12):
To the loo, not.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Us to me? Okay, An, I was mad about the.

Speaker 15 (01:50:37):
Er.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Don't you enough? Not enough al was made about.

Speaker 15 (01:51:11):
You.

Speaker 20 (01:51:11):
Show us everything you've got.

Speaker 42 (01:51:14):
You keep on that, but now the room gets hot.

Speaker 6 (01:51:17):
You drive us wild, will trip your crazy sack.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
You say your wallet gonna w spen. The body's just begun.

Speaker 6 (01:51:28):
With that you and you try us wild, will drop
the crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
You keep us shout and do keep le shoulders. Why
a rock cal now about heaven? Why a rock handle?

Speaker 7 (01:51:53):
I'm now about heaven?

Speaker 15 (01:51:56):
It?

Speaker 7 (01:51:58):
Whay a lock handle? Nobody ever?

Speaker 8 (01:52:05):
Why the rock hand.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
Nobody ever, and people saying.

Speaker 6 (01:52:14):
You'll be monk for a while and looking fancy out.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
I lack your style.

Speaker 6 (01:52:20):
You travels wild will drive you crazy.

Speaker 36 (01:52:27):
You show us everything a time weave a baby that's
quite I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:52:33):
And you travels wow will drop you crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:52:40):
You people shouted you, people shouted.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Why a rock andle nobody ever? Reda why a rock?
An nobody ever day? I want to run an nobody
ever reday?

Speaker 8 (01:53:08):
Want to rockadro.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Nobody everyday.

Speaker 7 (01:53:13):
I want to run an row. Nobody have a reday?
Wanna rule? Nobody have a reday? Wanna nobody have a Reday.

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
Let's she winters.

Speaker 7 (01:53:47):
I wanted into blood, no colors an able.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
I want them to turn blood.

Speaker 43 (01:53:57):
I see the fine resting, and that son of j
turned my head until mad darkness goes.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
I see a line of cause of the art into
blood with flowers and my love for never to come there.

Speaker 43 (01:54:21):
I've seen anyone turn their heads just quickly A look
a way, you moon baby.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
It just happens every day. I want inside myself.

Speaker 14 (01:54:35):
And see my heart's blad.

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
I see my red door. I was padding into the blood.

Speaker 8 (01:54:45):
Leaning again.

Speaker 18 (01:54:46):
Faith waves that kind of favo facts.

Speaker 21 (01:54:51):
Be in the face I wave.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
Your whole world is black.

Speaker 15 (01:54:57):
More?

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
Will my green seagull turn a deeper blue?

Speaker 16 (01:55:03):
I could not foresee this thing happened.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Nick to you if a party not missing the said
the son lat me before the party comes.

Speaker 7 (01:55:22):
I see a red dorn and I wanted tasted the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Don't colors in your ball.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
I want them to turn the lead.

Speaker 19 (01:55:34):
See doctor for bres in their song a dot to
turn the head and steal my darkness goes.

Speaker 8 (01:56:08):
I want to see your pa.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Night.

Speaker 18 (01:56:14):
I want to see you pay pay pay pay.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Yeah, mist mist miss.

Speaker 44 (01:59:02):
Sh sisters.

Speaker 41 (02:01:45):
Was never not going to scream them, okay, that's not

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debate of your church.

Speaker 4 (02:02:57):
Gave the mother something to leave about you rect do
not know, they say, And it wasn't look in the

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you know it, don't look at him.

Speaker 3 (02:03:20):
Wouldn't do the game you read it? Not about friends.

Speaker 15 (02:03:25):
Now.

Speaker 41 (02:03:25):
My mom was doing the tame tame Down's the pads
where the brass street.

Speaker 3 (02:03:31):
And the girl operator want your face.

Speaker 8 (02:03:34):
Gave me all.

Speaker 41 (02:03:37):
The same down to the paradise and where the brass
screen and the girl's operator.

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
All react in the rock and see I'm guns thirty mile.
Why they're like acquire remember the green and I haven't
the game. Take me down, paradase wre the brasses bring

(02:04:12):
of the girls, don't.

Speaker 41 (02:04:13):
Ridden pall, yeah, take.

Speaker 3 (02:04:19):
Me down para. You were the brassest brain of the girls.
Ut ridder blading man.

Speaker 21 (02:04:48):
So upon the.

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
Sou the.

Speaker 45 (02:05:08):
Brass doesn't want to boot. They don't ring the backs,
not sang me down to the paradas.

Speaker 7 (02:05:23):
You want the brassy spring of the parpay.

Speaker 8 (02:05:29):
Yeah yeah, dang me down.

Speaker 41 (02:05:31):
The paracide the brasses sprain of the parlor. All those
manang past the brassling spring and the girl oh yeah,
ray now it was a brass breed of.

Speaker 8 (02:05:52):
The all.

Speaker 46 (02:08:15):
She got me sixit with ah does long because all
she does is throws it back to me. I spent
the night time p for someone.

Speaker 3 (02:08:32):
Don't try to unstead me suthing you thing size said,
taking a feeling.

Speaker 8 (02:08:44):
Get a man about me, silent whit's my sign, Get
a man about me, Try to me my mind, give.

Speaker 3 (02:08:58):
It to me, give me slay.

Speaker 47 (02:09:05):
You always wol just look me cry. And then I
asked you shook it seems to get me your kids your.

Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
Don't try to escape cause you's just done. That is be.

Speaker 8 (02:09:34):
Wuss my design.

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
Get at.

Speaker 8 (02:09:40):
The get me Hia.

Speaker 3 (02:09:42):
That is about.

Speaker 21 (02:09:45):
I don't wanna get.

Speaker 3 (02:09:46):
You, get asleep, get us, sneak.

Speaker 8 (02:09:54):
Do many friends for loving?

Speaker 15 (02:09:59):
What is it?

Speaker 18 (02:10:00):
Oh okay, oh okay, you won't be laughing.

Speaker 7 (02:10:07):
I'm not from I'll be fuckcay.

Speaker 44 (02:10:14):
I not fine.

Speaker 8 (02:10:16):
That's the biss of five.

Speaker 3 (02:10:38):
Trying to tell me controls just done. God is a biginess.

Speaker 8 (02:10:49):
It's my sign. Give me when I want you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:54):
Give me. I. I don't want. Mother doesn't been.

Speaker 8 (02:11:02):
Gains gain, its.

Speaker 3 (02:11:09):
Been.

Speaker 8 (02:11:11):
I don't want to get past my side.

Speaker 3 (02:11:16):
A man I love that is a great sat gets gains.

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I don't know.

Speaker 8 (02:11:51):
I don't want.

Speaker 3 (02:11:55):
The body's not decide.

Speaker 8 (02:12:06):
Jock get in some.

Speaker 3 (02:12:15):
Fine, get in, swing, get up some get insom get in, scream,
gets me, get in SMA.

Speaker 8 (02:12:36):
Let us.

Speaker 3 (02:12:39):
Decided about five?

Speaker 8 (02:12:42):
Jock up mine.

Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
That's my deciding.

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
Donna and now Harley on the show. It is time

(02:13:35):
to take a look at another rock icon, and I
agree with this one. In fact, this one almost made
my list as well. This was an artist that I
was really thinking about putting in there. Alan Rock has
suggested David Bowie is someone that should be on that list.
Do you agree? David? Bowie is a rock icon.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
David Bowie. Absolutely, how can you not mention David Bowie.
He's just one of those kind of personalities where I remember,
like as a kid, I didn't necessarily know who he were,
or like I didn't know to match like him to

(02:14:17):
his songs when I was really young, but it was
a name that was always out there, so I always
wanted to know, who's David Bowie, what's his music? What's
his music? And then when I realized what songs were his,
it was like, oh my god, I love this guy.
And you know, acting as well. He's been out there
doing all sorts of stuff. So he's a legend in

(02:14:39):
his own right, regardless of the theme of tonight show.

Speaker 1 (02:14:43):
Yeah, and he's one of the only artists, like I
mentioned a few weeks ago, artists that I actually cried
when they passed away. He was one of them.

Speaker 27 (02:14:52):
Where.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
Yeah, and we're lucky that we're still getting new music
for him because he recorded so much while he was
still a wife, because of course he knew that his
death was coming. So but Allen has suggested that we
play Life on Mars and Heroes, which he said are
two of David Bowie's best tracks. So let's take away
and mate, you have picked up a double pass the

(02:15:14):
sea spinal tap too, so congratulations for that. You're off
going to go Ellen, Yeah, you're off to have some
fun because of us sony pictures, So thank you so
much for that. Here is David Bowie, so god.

Speaker 3 (02:15:29):
Awful small air.

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
To the girl with them mouse, but her mummy is
yelling no.

Speaker 19 (02:15:41):
And to Daddy has told her to go, but her
friend is nowhere to be seen.

Speaker 3 (02:15:49):
Now she walked through her son and dream to the
seats with the clearest view.

Speaker 25 (02:15:57):
And she's up to the cell the screen.

Speaker 3 (02:16:01):
But the film is a siding ball. But she spent
it ten times so long she could spend in the
eyes of moons if they asked her to for some
same fighting in the dam's wall.

Speaker 7 (02:16:21):
Oh man, those game, man go, it's a week shallows.
Take her now, not the wrong guy.

Speaker 14 (02:16:37):
Oh man, wonder if you'll never know you said the
best of the HILLO. There's the light on mocks.

Speaker 3 (02:17:12):
It's on the merry cast orchard brow that mickey mouse
has grown off the cow.

Speaker 20 (02:17:21):
Now the workers have struck.

Speaker 24 (02:17:23):
The fame.

Speaker 3 (02:17:25):
Because Lemon's on sail again. See the mice in their
million hearts from my beat to the North. But gods,
who pretend you a resounds of pounds to my mother
and my dog and pounds.

Speaker 48 (02:17:46):
But the film is a sadic bomb because I wrote
it ten times on more. It's about to be rid again.

Speaker 3 (02:17:58):
And I ask you to as it's like ever cans
holl o man.

Speaker 37 (02:18:07):
The dose game then goes, it's not drinking a sallows.

Speaker 16 (02:18:15):
They gonna look at the man King of the dumb
guys man.

Speaker 3 (02:18:22):
When they re happen nose this on the best selling
show this a live mon seer. I I wish you

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could swim like dolphins, like dolphins and swim.

Speaker 20 (02:19:37):
Do nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:19:40):
Nothing. Lookie us we got up.

Speaker 18 (02:19:46):
You canna beat them.

Speaker 3 (02:19:49):
For help right now. But oh we gonna be heroes.

Speaker 36 (02:19:58):
Just for one day.

Speaker 7 (02:20:23):
Okay, you just just as.

Speaker 15 (02:20:58):
Just a.

Speaker 3 (02:21:11):
Steppings a wicked.

Speaker 25 (02:21:31):
Mister.

Speaker 3 (02:21:40):
What's the side?

Speaker 1 (02:21:57):
Just okay? So hally, Now we've got another listener request

(02:22:24):
suggesting a rock icon, and this time around it is
Tracy Brunswick. No, I haven't said that wrong. It's not
Tracy from Brunswick. It is Tracy Brunswick. Picked up tickets
to go and see Spinal Tap two and she suggested
bon Jovi, And again I can't fold her on this

(02:22:44):
one because I went and saw bon Jovi play on
their last tour and that was the greatest hits tour,
and I realized just how many hits bon Jovi have
had over the years.

Speaker 2 (02:22:56):
Yeah, it's true, isn't it? Because I I remember him
being around when I was younger, like when he first
started up, and I think even like my brother was
listening to some of his music back when he was
first out and that sort of thing. So I always
heard him, even if I wasn't intentionally listening to him.

(02:23:17):
And then later on I kind of started to appreciate
what he did because he had that longevity. He was
still around, and you know when someone has that staying power,
you start to pay more attention if you didn't pay
attention in the first place. So I was like, oh, okay,
the sky's sticking around. This is interesting, and that's a
good sign of you know, like a rock legend.

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
Yeah, and some good new Jersey rock as well, of
course for them, And he brought out a really great
solo album during COVID times as well, of like a
really kind of soulful and meaningful I guess when I
was looking at rock icons, that was one of the
things that I was looking for. Artists that have not
only had longevity, but artists that have also kind of
reinvented themselves perhaps as well, Like bon Jovi went from

(02:24:01):
being kind of that hard rock almost glam metal band
with bon Jovi and then later in life he's kind
of doing almost like country folk asque kind of music
as well.

Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
Yeah, it's true, especially when someone can kind of work
with different styles and stuff. I found that kind of
puzzling as well as appealing when I was trying to
make my list, because there are so many acts I
liked and like, well, they are rock, but then they

(02:24:35):
do all these other sounds as well, so you know,
is it right for me? I even like looked up
a few just to think, like, do people consider these
as a rock group? And you know, as long as
it kind of said, you know, look up this band,
and you know it said the genre included rock, it
was like, yeah, people think of them as rock. Okay,

(02:24:58):
I'm not mad, It's good, alright. I really I second
guess myself sometimes, but yeah, I think we should just
shut up and get onto bon Jovi.

Speaker 1 (02:25:09):
Yeah, So Tracy has suggested that we play It's My
Life and Bad Medicine, So here we go. It's time
for a little bit of bon Jovi and Tracy. Enjoy
spinal tap too.

Speaker 3 (02:25:27):
You've seen a song for the brooking hide sad.

Speaker 27 (02:25:35):
We're full by but.

Speaker 3 (02:25:42):
Sat listen with bad.

Speaker 6 (02:25:46):
I'm gonna hear my voice and a shouting.

Speaker 20 (02:25:52):
It's mad.

Speaker 3 (02:25:54):
Sound.

Speaker 7 (02:26:02):
I saw you, my honest not off things like thinking
set up there in my life.

Speaker 3 (02:26:18):
I saw you. It's like.

Speaker 24 (02:26:33):
This is foul wrong, is Stu big around, Tommy and
Jean milk back down?

Speaker 7 (02:26:48):
Its smiled and my manormous start looking.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
Even looking at and make your own bad. It's my now, it's.

Speaker 15 (02:27:08):
I.

Speaker 25 (02:27:20):
I guess that.

Speaker 40 (02:27:24):
I'm so, He says, they'll stay to going out, don't

(02:27:51):
be no break.

Speaker 3 (02:27:52):
Will don't back man, it's nice sound, its bag I
have so honest, like like a sad day, I'm so dad.

(02:28:38):
So I was like my magat sad my.

Speaker 8 (02:28:54):
I so.

Speaker 3 (02:28:59):
Dancing my life. I know that stock my don.

Speaker 7 (02:29:44):
Didn't you say back the destoy thing? Mother, don't say
starts get bothered.

Speaker 3 (02:29:58):
All the samples down a boutill free but please your
no mom.

Speaker 7 (02:30:15):
Thegether's the jook s you know need given the lasts

(02:30:48):
all ups addiction that dozen chick do all for your
pictures a back and.

Speaker 3 (02:31:01):
Said that's not attacked. The don't that the.

Speaker 7 (02:31:21):
Side signs that worry it'll.

Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
Come out on that out of ripe.

Speaker 7 (02:32:13):
But you don't got the stock internal trails wa final
madal he'll take on to got tu tab nothing metal
fable man haven't bunny.

Speaker 15 (02:32:43):
That so.

Speaker 3 (02:32:54):
Do mones s.

Speaker 8 (02:33:03):
Mom what man?

Speaker 49 (02:33:18):
I now go there, Wait a minute, wait a minute, whoa,
I'm not done one more time with you feel.

Speaker 7 (02:33:37):
Help now, Young sid.

Speaker 8 (02:33:46):
Said, you're not the same ye.

Speaker 3 (02:34:00):
Dogg the cropping all the time. You ain't cook the
house dog crossing all the time where you hand out
a quarter rabbit.

Speaker 20 (02:34:12):
And you ain't no fredom.

Speaker 50 (02:34:15):
Well, I said juice high clams where that pushes the line, Yeah,
I sent juice high class where ahead buds told, Yeah,
you can't have a quarter rabbit.

Speaker 3 (02:34:28):
And you ain't no free no mother. You ain't locked
a bottle house dog crapping all the time. You ain't
knocked the bottle hill dog.

Speaker 50 (02:34:39):
Crossing all the time where you hand out a quarter ribbit.

Speaker 3 (02:34:44):
Then you ain't no friend of mother.

Speaker 50 (02:35:03):
What I said Juice had trans well last and I said,
Jesus high trist where Bristol?

Speaker 3 (02:35:14):
Where are you? Man? Have a quarter heaven? And you
ain't no friend? Am well, I said, Juice hid, where

(02:35:38):
is that crystal? You know that juice high tranced? Where
that pst to last?

Speaker 21 (02:35:46):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:35:46):
You may have a quarter rabbit. You're hanging off predom.
You ain't nothing. Parson on dog crawling all the time.
You interrupted master dog crawl water. Well, you ain't not
a corner rabbit. You ain't a fred.

Speaker 20 (02:36:05):
Homa live he Lisa loveing.

Speaker 3 (02:36:29):
Season bigger.

Speaker 42 (02:36:31):
Right a still love them losing bi check your robber
down my side, stop the reason stride.

Speaker 3 (02:36:47):
Or rather start down by the time app to HeLa
way hell.

Speaker 30 (02:37:08):
Away way, No, no shout ships steed live, No.

Speaker 3 (02:37:24):
Is gonna stow it down, last out.

Speaker 8 (02:37:27):
We gonna stir out no good, it's gonna fast it round.

Speaker 19 (02:37:35):
Here's shy out, there's.

Speaker 40 (02:37:37):
My juice, They're a rocket shout, here's money love that way.

Speaker 3 (02:37:49):
To the crown. Wow, I'm gon way.

Speaker 7 (02:37:57):
Way no strong lash.

Speaker 1 (02:39:09):
And that's it for this episode of Subculture meets the
Popcorn Conspiracy. Now, we did have a couple of extra
tracks in there, Harley as well. You might have heard
hound Dog by Elvis Presley and Highway to Hell by
ac DC. Now that is because they were two more
of our of our listener's suggestions for the show. So yeah,

(02:39:35):
so suggesting Elvis Presley, and there was a few people
that did, but we drew this one out to make
sure that only one winner goes through. We've got Laws
and West who actually suggested that Elvis Presley is his
rock icon and his actual words were, how can you
go past the King when you're looking for a rock icon?
And that is very very true.

Speaker 2 (02:39:56):
Now for Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (02:40:00):
Now for ac DC, we've got here Andrew Meredith who
said that ac DC have to not only be one
of the biggest rock icons in the world, but the
biggest rock export we've ever had from Australia. And again,
this is a band that's multi generational because they started
in the nineteen seventies and they'll be in Melbourne in

(02:40:22):
just a couple of weeks time with their tour. So
this is a ban now that's pretty much been going
for almost fifty years.

Speaker 2 (02:40:31):
Wow, that's quite a legend. It's hard to actually fathom that,
you know, and I didn't grow up in the seventies,
but they were always around when I was a kid,
so to think that it's been that long and now
I start to feel old and insecure, and let's not
count the years anymore. Let's just see they've been around

(02:40:52):
a while exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:40:54):
So congratulations, guys, you have both won double passes to
go and see Spinal Tap two thanks to Only Pictures
and Spinal Tats. Who is in cinemas right now, so
make sure you go along and check that out now, Harley.
While we're talking about listeners as people, let listen to
this show. No, I do a couple of shows in Thailand,

(02:41:16):
and one of those shows is a kind of nineties
and two thousand's party show that airs on a Friday night.
A couple of weeks ago, on the show, we played
a little game called country of Origin, and a few
of our listeners who listen to this show and listen
to that show really really liked country of Origin, so

(02:41:38):
they want me to play it with you next week
on the show. Are you okay to play country of
Origin on the show next week?

Speaker 2 (02:41:47):
Well, as long as it doesn't require my nipples to
be tied to electrodes, because they're still recovering from the
last game we played.

Speaker 1 (02:41:57):
No, No, No, This one is it's a pretty easy game.
You basically just have to pick which countries representatives produce
the best music. So what I'll basically do to you
next week is I think it'll be four countries, but
it would be four countries that had very very strong
nineties and two thousand hits. I will play you a

(02:42:19):
couple of representatives from that from those countries, and you
will pick which country had the best hits from that time.

Speaker 2 (02:42:27):
Oh that sounds good. Okay, this is a fun game. Yeah,
I wouldn't do this. I do love music from around
the world, so yeah, this will be fun, awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:42:36):
Okay, so we will play that next week on the show.
But everybody, thanks for reaching out and making this such
a special episode, and keep those suggestions coming as well.
We like to do fun things like Country.

Speaker 2 (02:42:47):
Of our Yeah, you guys taking part makes this so
much more worth it for us, like knowing you guys
are responding and you know what it is that gives
you a kick, Like this is really fun. So tell
us more if you've got more of these ideas, like
what do you want us to go through? What's you know,

(02:43:08):
is it a top list like this? You know, what's
our top three, top five? Whatever? Just yeah, keep sending
him in.

Speaker 1 (02:43:17):
This is a lot of fun, definitely, but we better
get out of here now. But Holly, before we go,
if people do want to reach out to us, what
socials can people reach out to us on?

Speaker 2 (02:43:28):
Yep, you've got to look for a subculture entertainment on Facebook, Twitter,
also known as X of course, TikTok, discord you were
as Blue Skies, look for a subculture Dave on Instagram
and threads. If you're lost at any point, we don't

(02:43:48):
blame you because we're all over the place, just like
I am in this show sometimes. But you can also
check out subculture Entertainment dot com. You'll find links to
a lot of our stuff there, and plenty, plenty more
content that never makes it onto these shows. There's just
way too much.

Speaker 1 (02:44:08):
Yes, definitely, So we'll get out of here now. So
that's it for this episode of Subculture. It's the Popcorn Conspiracy.
But we will be back next week.

Speaker 2 (02:44:16):
So for now, I've been Dave g and I've been Harley.
See you next time.