Sunday Night w/ Allen Ray: The Looming Population Implosion!

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You just said the last wanderer. Now on KLARN Radio,
it's me Sunday Night with Alan Ray. Welcome to Sunday
Night with Elan Ray. I am your humble host. I
think my name's Alan Ray. Still, yes, yes, it is HI.
You know I've breached. I briefly discussed this subject tonight
in a show about a year ago. Might have you

(04:06):
ever been more? I don't know. I'm old, I lose track.
But tonight we're going to talk about something that I
kind of fell down this rabbit hole. And it started
a couple of weeks ago. Actually I'm not gonna lie
to you, it started a while ago. I still haven't
let it go from the last time I talked about it,
but I just happened to bring it up again. Scrolling
through the book of faces and my Facebook is mostly

(04:31):
family and people I played music with. That's the bulk
of it. A couple of people I've graduated with, a
couple of people went to school with a few people
I met along the way, but mostly musicians and mostly
family members. I just like to make sure that people
I know are still alive. And I don't visit there often,
but I was scrolling through places and my wife and

(04:51):
I we went into my hometown last night and have
all things. It was a Jimmy Buffett tribute at the
Croswell Opera House and it was really good. It was
really good. The people that put it on were absolutely outstanding.
But I was trying to kind of look to see
who was playing where, you know, all my musician friends,

(05:12):
and looked at all the venues. I wasn't really looking
at my friends. I was looking at the venues and
I started noticing something that in this area, and I
can't speak for every area, but in this area, all
the musicians are like fifty years old on up, fifty
and older, and it was bothering me. It bothered me

(05:37):
when I was twenty one. When I was twenty one
years old, I was playing every weekend shoot. I started
playing when I was fifteen, but when I was twenty one,
all bets were off, all bets were off. We lived
for Friday night, Saturday night, you don't see that anymore.
You don't see young people playing in bands when you

(05:58):
walk into a place, at least in this whole area now.
And it's not just my hometown area. I'm talking. I've
been Toledo, up in Detroit, Grand Rapids. I go into
places and the musicians just look old and tired, and
they're gonna die soon. I'm staring down sixty Okay. Now,
I'm planning on doing some shows this summer. I don't

(06:20):
scream into a microphone anymore, Folks, don't. I don't have
long hair. I don't have hair. It's thinning out really badly.
I'm afraid to grow it out because just gravity might
pull a thrust of the way out of my brain,
you know, and then I've got nothing. But all of
the musicians are looking old and tired, and not just
my friends, but the people I don't even know. Last
night at that tribute band, Okay, the guitar player was

(06:42):
probably about thirty, The percussionist was probably about thirty thirty five. Okay,
those guys were the youngest. Pee Well, I'm not gonna
say that the youngest people on stage. The two backing
musicians were probably in their forties, young ladies. One was
from Detroit, one was from Adrian Gray, great vocalist, just
beautiful vocalists. But the rest of the band, the rest

(07:04):
of the band up on stage doing this tribute to
Jimmy Buffett, was all in their fifties, late fifties and
sixties and sometimes seventies. There's a ten piece band. It
was crazy politics, junkie. It finished it off. Being a
lifelong bar band person who has touched fame a couple

(07:27):
of times, but for the most part, has played bars
his whole life. I watched the bar scene tank A
when they really started cracking down on drunk driving, and
B when the Smoking Band became just prominent throughout the country.
It killed the bar scene. Now that COVID hit, yes,
it is pretty much gone. It just drove a stake

(07:47):
right through what it was ever left of the steaming,
lifeless hulk that was barely gasping. But anyways, I just
it just bothered me to the point where I started
working on this and I kind of in the back
of my mind I wanted to do a two parter tonight,
but I'm not. I'm going to talk about something that's
it should concern you some people will scare you. I

(08:12):
personally have mixed feelings about it. There's part of me
that are like, okay, whatever, and there's another part of
me that that is thinking that I don't think we
understand what's about to happen to us as a planet,
as a world. Not to mention our country, I'm talking,
of course, about something you don't hear on the news,

(08:32):
and I've talked to a couple of people about it
today and they looked at me like I was growing horns,
like what are you talking about? Talking about the population implosion?
Our population, folks, is on the verge of a stagnating.
A lot of places in the world it's collapsing, and

(08:55):
some places are still gaining a little bit, but globally,
globally and compared to the time frame of mankind itself,
the population is stagnating, and in possibly in our lifetime
we'll discuss this later, we will actually see a decrease
in population, a self imposed decrease in population that may

(09:20):
even rival percentage wise the Black Plague. And we're doing
it to ourselves, and I don't think we understand what
we're about to do. It's crazy, I know, but here
we are so hey, man, cheers, here's the human population.

(09:44):
God bless it. Let's get into this, Okay. I talked
about Paul Erlick's a Stanford University biologist, one of the experts,

(10:11):
and I did talk about him. I've discussed him right
here on Sunday Night with Alan Ray. He's best known
for his nineteen sixty eight book The Population Bomb. It
was co authored by his wife Ann Erlik, where he
made a series of dire predictions about overpopulation and its consequences.
And first of all, let's uh, hey, welcome everybody in chat.
I got Rex and I got already in there. I've

(10:32):
got a raptor in there. I've got politics junkie in there. Everybody,
anybody I missed, Thanks for hanging out with me, guys,
and hey, get your friends in here. You know this
is gonna be an important discussion. And you hear every
once in a while, you don't hear much about it.
But but what really brought it to light is Elon
Musk has mentioned it a few times. And uh, ope,

(10:53):
EM's in the chat. Aggie's in the chat. All right,
it's a complete it's a full house. Here we go. Oh,
I thought you were in there earlier, Aggie, I already
said hello to you and chat. Maybe I was just
having hallucinations from the last show. But anyways, Paul early,

(11:14):
over the years, he's made all kinds of predictions, dire predictions,
you know, the kind of predictions that I love the most, Yes,
doom predictions. And over the years he's also made additional
forecasts in various publications, interviews, and speeches. And I've got

(11:34):
a list of some of his most notable predictions, focusing
primarily on those from The Population Bomb, his book best
seller book. So let's let's just go right through it,
and we're just gonna who's just gonna ease into it.
I mean, it's Sunday night, okay. We got a big,
nasty work week ahead of us tomorrow, so we'll discuss
this like growing adults. I hope you have some kind

(11:56):
of a beverage or something a nightcap, even if it's
a cup of tea. That's it's fine. Let's talk about
something intellectual. You just heard in The Lost Wanderer, which
is about the most intellectual thing you're gonna hear. I mean,
my god, Jeff just goes so deep on all this stuff.
But I'm just kind of like the I'm kind of

(12:17):
like the castle fool, you know, bugs Bunny with his
little fool's had on going. Only a fool would attack
the dragon, you know. So here we are predictions. Now,
this is from actually the book The Population Bomb. Shame
on me. I've not read this book because I just
roll my eyes at crap like this. This is from

(12:39):
nineteen sixty eight. Okay, just put this from perspective. I
was three years old when this thing came out. And
here's his predictions. He said by the seventies there would
be mass starvation. Irlik predicted that in nineteen seventies, hundreds
of millions of people are going to starve to death
in spite of any crash programs embarked up on. Now.

(13:00):
He suggested that the battle of feed humanity was already
lost and no emergency measures could prevent a substantial increase
in the global death rate. This is he predicted us
for the nineteen seventies, folks, the nineteen seventies doom. It's
twenty twenty five. Another popular prediction he had. He said

(13:23):
by nineteen eighties, sixty five million Americans would be starving.
He forecasted that sixty five million Americans would die of
starvation between nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty nine due to
food shortages caused by overpopulation. I don't remember that I
was alive that whole time. I will admit this does

(13:45):
go back to the whole you know, music scene that
most of the eighties is an absolute haze because I
was on stage most of the eighties. I was either
working my butt off on stage, and at the end
of the eighties, I got married and that came to
a close few years after that. But that's fine. I
was good with that. I still toured, I still did
all that stuff up to like two thousand and three.
But that's fine. Anyways. Eighty to eighty nine, he said,

(14:09):
we would all die. Sixty five million Americans to die
of starvation between nineteen eighty and eighty nine. Then, he said,
Earlick projected that the US population would drop to twenty
two point six million by nineteen ninety nine as a
result of famine and societal collapse. Nineteen ninety nine, tonight,

(14:31):
we are going to party. US population would declined to
twenty two point six million. I'm seeing a trend here, sir,
mister Earlick. I'm seeing a trend. Paul, I don't remember
any of this really actually happening. The fourth prediction he
made was England's disappearance by the year two thousand. Two
thousand was such a great date to predict things back

(14:53):
in the seventies and sixties, right, because most people are
going to be dead by two thousand. In a nineteen
sixty nine statement to Britain's Institute of Biology, he said,
if I were a gambler, I would take even money
that England will not exist by the year two thousand,
implying environmental and population pressure would render it uninhabitable. Well,

(15:14):
he was off by twenty five years, because England is disappearing,
but it's not because of starvation. It is a societal thing.
But we'll get into that someday, not today. Number five,
in a nineteen sixty seven New Scientist article reprinted in

(15:36):
The Washington Post in nineteen sixty eight. That is nineteen
sixty eight, folks early predicted that somewhere between seventy and
nineteen eighty five the world will undergo vast famines with
hundreds of millions dying, regardless of any internsons. Oh my gosh,

(15:59):
just yes, going to hit that putting so many tasers.
Can you feel it? I can feel it. He was wrong.
Number six India's inevitable collapse. He wrote the population bomb.
I don't see how India could possibly feed two hundred
million more people by nineteen eighty, suggesting India was doomed

(16:22):
to catastrophic famine collapse. Instead, they became the cyber scam
capital of the planet. Look at them, go good job,
India runs Number seven. End of civilization in fifteen years. Oh,
I love this. This is my This is my favorite.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Right here Byron Brimstone, coming down from the sky, rivers
and seas boiling, forty.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
Years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes a day, rising.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
From the green, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, massistaria,
and of civilization in fifteen years. In nineteen seventy he
warned it some time in the next fifteen years, the
and will come meeting an utter breakdown of the capacity
of the planet to support humanity. And instead, in nineteen

(17:10):
eighty five, we had hair bands, baby, We grew our
hair out. We were spraying hairspray into the ozone layer.
We even cut a big hole in the ozone to
let all that beautiful space in He was wrong again.
Oh I love these predictions, these predictions. Uh Space nineteen

(17:31):
ninety nine, No nowmmm my brother, my brother in Christ.
Space nineteen ninety nine was epic. I loved Space nineteen
ninety nine, especially Mayra. You know, as you could change
into anything. Think about being married to a woman that
could change into anything, anything, kinky. Anyways, back to the show.

(17:52):
Number eight, marine life extinction by nineteen eighty. During an
Earth Day speech in nineteen seventy, earliklaimed, in ten years,
all important animal life in the sea will be extinct,
all going to die. Large areas of coastline will have
to be evacuated because of the stretch of dead fish. Well,
little did he know that it would take till what

(18:14):
twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three, when we built all
those giant fans all along the coast and they were
killing all the whales. That's what did it. She turned
into a wood chopper wrecks. Oh my god. Okay. Number
nine small disasters killing two hundred thousand people in nineteen

(18:36):
seventy three. In nineteen seventy he predicted that air pollution
would cause a small master in New York and Los
Angeles in nineteen seventy three, killing two hundred thousand Americans.
Now that can either be proven or not proven. Yeah, Raptor,
I believe that Actresses's wife can change into anything on
a die. You can't really, I mean, this could be

(18:59):
all most proven. Okay, the smog in Los Angeles and
New York. It probably helped quite a few people die.
People who are already coughing up blood and everything. Smog
can't be good for you. Okay, that one will give
him a could really have come true. Maybe it did
come true. It's hard to tell anyways. Number ten reduced

(19:20):
a life expectancy due to DDT. In May nineteen seventy
issue of autubon erliqu Warren that DDT and other chlorinated
hydrocarbons may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people
born since nineteen forty five, estimating that Americans born is
since nineteen forty six had life expectancy of only forty
nine years, dropping to forty two by the nineteen eighty

(19:42):
if the trend continues. He's wrong again. Oh this is
my favorite. I love I remember I remember studying this
in school. This was big news. Oil depletion by the
year two thousand. In nineteen seventy four, Erlic and his
wife predicted that within the next quarter of a century,
man kind will be looking elsewhere than in oil wells

(20:03):
for its main source of energy, suggesting oil reserves would
be depleted by around two thousand, sparking a frantic search
for alternatives. And then twelve, this is a great one,
water rationing in the US by nineteen seventy four. He
predicted that the US would implement water rationing by nineteen
seventy four due to resources scarcity driven by population growth.

(20:25):
And now none of these none, zero zelch he's batting zero.
I remember being in school and some of these things
coming out as well. Experts predict that you'll be coughing
up blood by the year nineteen eighty. You know, then
little kids are screaming, yelling, wanting their mommies. You know,
it's chaos. It was horrible. Eighty came and went, eighty five,

(20:45):
came and went, ninety, came and went two thousand, came
in at twenty twenty, came and went it's twenty twenty five.
He's batting zero. Who's listening to this guy anymore? A
lot of people are he's got recent predictions. In nineteen
seventy five, Earli forecasted that since more than nine tenths

(21:08):
of the original tropical rainforce will be removed in most
areas for the next thirty years or so, it is
expected that half of the organism or organisms in these
areas will vanish with it. They're still harping on the rainforest.
Guess what, guys, They've cut a lot of it down,
and guess what it did. Just like in the Upper
Peninsula in Michigan, it grew back. Civilization said in twenty

(21:32):
eight Oh, here we go. In a twenty eighteen Guardian interview, Now,
this guy's still rambling on. He's still going about. In
a twenty eighteen Guardian interview, he stated that a shattering
collapse of civilization is a near certainty in the next
few decades due to overpopulation, over consumption, and environmental destruction. Okay,
he's still going on. He's been wrong. This guy has
been absolutely wrong since nineteen sixty eight. Nineteen sixty eight,

(21:58):
he was wrong twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, seven years ago.
He's still out there saying, Oh, it's coming, it's coming,
and this is recent twenty twenty three. In a twenty
twenty three sixty minute appearance alongside colleague Anthony Barnovski, Erlok
supported the idea that if current extinction rates of the
threatened species continued, a sixth mass extinction could occur within

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three to twenty two centuries. Three to twenty two centuries.
How do you predict twenty two centuries with three quarters
of what you think ought to be there disappearing? Those
are his words. Erlk's predictions were rooted in a neo
Malthusian view that population growth would outstrip resources, leading to

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catastrophic consequences. Many of these forecasts, of course, did not
materialize as predicted. The Green Revolution increased agricultural productivity, averting
the widespread famincy foresaw. Global population grew from three point
five billion in nineteen six sixty eight to over eight
billion today, Yet starvation deaths have not reached the scales
he anticipated. Although you know, regional famines have always have,

(23:10):
and always will and are occurring right now. England and
India persist. The US population is over three hundred and
thirty million. Me Marine life, while under pressure, has not
vanished as he claimed, innovations and resource extractions, energy efficiency
and pollution control contradicted his resource depletion environmental collapse scenarios.
Man figured it out all of these predictions were live.

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People are still listening to this over educated bonehead. But
let's just say theoretically, theoretically, my friends, that there are
too many people on the planet. Now, I'm going to

(23:57):
be upfront with you on this whole thinking on all
of this logic. Okay, I feel there are too many
people on the planet, not because the planet's going to
you know, run out of resources and there's gonna be masters,
and I just don't care for that many people. It
seems like everywhere you go there's just people stinking up

(24:17):
the joint. Everything has become a people factory. When you
go to any kind of event, when you go to
any kind of sight seeing, any kind of of a
someplace that you know, a tourist thing, you go, you
know somewhere that that's a touristy thing, it's like a
people factory. Okay, kitchen kitsching, Okay, you're next, your next,

(24:38):
your next, your next, move along, move al on, move along.
There's no taking your time and enjoying things like the
Grand Canyon, or or you know, the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville,
or the Daytona Beach in Florida. It's just all a
people factory. Now, would I be totally devastator to fat
I don't know, five billion of the billion disappeared. Maybe

(25:01):
a little bit. No, I really would be. I'm not
gonna kid you. But here's the thing. Global population continues
to grow, though the rate of the growth has been
slowing in recent decades. The world's population is not currently
in decline. Now some people would say it is, but

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there are places that it is. According to estimates from
organizations like the UN, world population surpassed eight billion in
November twenty twenty two and is projected to keep increasing potential,
reaching or potentially reaching around eight point five billion by
twenty thirty nine point seven billion by twenty fifty, before
possibly stabilizing or declining in later centuries. The UN a

(25:44):
lot of the quote experts unquote are now five billion
joff with a B, not MB. That'd be a little
more tricky, but five million, Yeah, we can get rid
of some of those, like right now, nobody'd miss them. Anyways.
They're saying that the stabilization. The stagnation, let's call it

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the stagnation of population, occurs around twenty seventy. I pose
to you, my friends, that that is a very optimistic number.
I pose to you that by twenty fifty we are
already going to be in the collapse. I pose to
you that by twenty thirty twenty thirty five, we could

(26:27):
very well be seeing the collapse of global population, at
least the stagnation. Of course, I'm no expert. I could
be wrong, but we're crap shooting right now, folks. We
are crap shooting with the population of mankind, and if
we are not careful, we could see a population reduction

(26:51):
that could rival the Black Plague of Europe per you know,
percentage wise. Now right now, as it stands, right now,
we are still increasing in population. The growth isn't uniform though.
There are regions like parts of Europe and East Asia
that are seeing population declines due to low birth rates

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and combined with aging populations, while others like Sub Saharan
Africa are still experienced significant increases. Of course, al Gore
and he doesn't like to talk about this. Al Gore
would like to flood a sub Saharan Africa with you know,
abortion clinics and take care of that little problem. Because
he is a population decline cheerleader. He wants population decline.

(27:36):
I we're going to talk about that too. This is
the show might take over now, I don't really care.
I'm just going to go till I'm done. Factors like
fertility rates, health care improvements, and economic conditions also play
a role. So while the overall trend is still upward globally,
the picture buries a lot depending on where you are now,
several countries are experiencing population declines, with some of the

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most notable examples including Ukraine, Japan, Italy, Bulgaria facing challenges
like war, aging populations, and political instability. Now here's a deep,
more detailed look. Okay, let's look at some of these factors.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
East.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Let's look at Eastern Europe. Number one, Eastern Europe Bulgaria.
Bulgaria's projected to see a significant decline in population between
twenty twenty and twenty fifty, and the Ukraine, of course,
everybody's dying, experiencing a large population decline due to war.
Letiuuania projected to see a significant decline in population between
twenty twenty and twenty fifty. Latvia projected to see the

(28:31):
same significant decline between twenty twenty and twenty fifty. Serbia
joins that list. Between twenty twenty and twenty fifty, Bosnia
and Herzegovina projected to see a significant decline. Same so Croatia, Moldova, Romania, Albania, Estonia, Hungary, Poland.

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All of these Eastern European nations are heading for a
decline as we speak between twenty twenty and twenty fifty,
heading for a population decline. In other words, whether it
be war, whether it be just an aging population, whether
it be people aren't giving birth, whatever, they are already

(29:16):
in decline. They are there, they are there right now.
They already have the problem. Let's look at Asia. Japan
has been facing a declining population doing an aging population
and low birth rates. China, while still a large population,
China's growth has slowed and is projected to experience a

(29:39):
decline in the coming decades. Now with China, it's really
crazy because here's the problem. By law, you are only
able to have one baby, one baby. That's it. Well,
in China, it's an honor to have a baby's son
so they were killing all of the baby girls in
the womb. They're boarding them, killing them as they were born. Whatever.

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So now in China, and they don't like to talk
about this, but it's happening. They got all of these
young Chinese boys and no girls. China has a massive problem.
China right now is going the other way. They're paying
people to start families. But the problem is is young
Chinese people don't want to get married, they don't want

(30:24):
to start families, they don't want to bother with it
because they've been told by the same government to having
babies is destroying China. China is going to be a
victim of their own stupidity. Now the Korea is North Korea,

(30:45):
South Korea. They've got problems too, exactly. China did change
the law rafter, but it didn't work because they've already
drilled into these kids' heads the babies are bad. Babies
are bad, and Clay don't know babies. You're killing the
world in glue. And we'll get to that here in
the USA in a bit. In Europe, Italy experienced is

(31:07):
experiencing a population decline. Greece is projected to see a
significant decline in population by twenty twenty and twenty fifty. Now,
you remember in Greece. In Greece, the mayor suggestion used
to be the retirement age in Greece was sixty two.
A few years back, they said, we can't do this anymore.
We're raising the population to sixty four. Do you remember
what happened? Riots in the street, people lost their collective

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do doo? Okay, just for the two year popular Now
up here, you know, in the United States, that's sixty five,
and they're already pushing to have sixty seven, sixty eight.
Some people are pushing to seventy because they can see
the riding on the wall already. Now we're gonna get
further into that in just a little bit. Other nations.

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Venezuela is facing a population decline due to political instability.
Georgia projected to see a significant decline twenty twenty and
twenty fifty, Portugal same between twenty and twenty fifty as
a decline, Slavic Republic, same, North Macedonia same. All these
people places I'm mentioning right now are gonna see significant

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declines in population between twenty twenty and twenty fifty. North
Macedonia Cuba, jump down to Saint Martin Island experience in
declining population. Already, Cook Island experiencing declining population, Marshall Islands,
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All right, wow, we really dove into things night. My gosh,
this is way too deep for Sunday Night, but you
know what it needs to be said. It needs to
be said we have been talking about and welcome back
to Sunday Night with Allan Ray. I am your host, Hellanray.
I'm gonna try something new tonight. I'm actually gonna try
to share my screen. This may go good, may collapse

(35:54):
the whole show. We might just just dive into nothing
this here, but we're gonna try it. Okay, folks, privacy here,
what's a privacy year? Get out of here with that crap?
Uh turn on prediction. Get out of here. I'm gonna
try to share something with you folks in a bit. Anyways,
let's talk about the United States. We've been talking about

(36:17):
all over the planet planetary population reduction, and we really
haven't talked about why it may not go as well
as people think it will. What about the US? While
the US population is currently growing, projections suggest that it
will peak in the twenty seventies and then decline, the
experts say. The experts say that we will peak in

(36:44):
the twenty seventies and then start decline. I have a
will think about it, with factors like declining birth rates
and potential change in immigration playing a key role. Here's
a more detail breakdown the current growth. Right now, the
population has been growing, with the most recent data showing
a one percent increase its or twenty twenty three, reaching

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three hundred and forty point one million. Now, projections from
the US CINSUS Bureau indicate that the population will likely
peak in twenty seventy at around three hundred and seventy million,
before declining in the following decades. Now, some of the
things that are pushing this, and they're not going to
give you all of the details I am going to

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I'm going to Declining birth rates are one of the
influential factors. The total fertility rate, births per woman and
birth per woman is a very big thing in in China. Actually,
what is it. I think it's in it's my art
or North Korea, one of them. It's down to like
zero point nine, so point nine per woman. That is

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a population implosion right there, already starting to happen. The
total fertility rate is projected to remain below the population
replacement level of two point one. This is what that
means in order to sustain three hundred and forty million
people that we have right now. Every woman of birthing age,

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every woman, one man of birthing age average has two
point one babies. Now they're not gonna have a point
one baby. You know, that's ridiculous. It's just that means, like,
you know, nine women have two babies, one has three.
So we're already under the replacement level, meaning each generation

(38:38):
will not fully replace itself. Combine this with an aging population. Now,
the baby boomer generation is aging and the share of
the population over sixty five is increasing, leading to a
shift in the age structure. And we'll talk about this
in the workplace in just a minute. Immigration plays a
crucial role in the population growth, and changes in immigration

(38:59):
policies are patterns could impact the projected decline. Oh wait
a minute, what what was that again? Immigration plays a
crucial role in population growth, and changes in immigration policies
or patterns could impact the projected decline. Put that at
the back of your mind. Put that in the back
of your head. Okay, I know Japan's had that, Raptor,

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Japan's had that point nine, but South Korea is the
other one. I think South Korea is even lower. It's
zero point eight or something. It's insane. They are in
free fall right now. Thanks for bringing that up, jeff
our raptor.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
So.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Anyways, a population collapse is where birth rates plummet and
a population strengths dramatically, and it can have some serious
ripple effects. First off, you'd see an aging population with
fewer young people to support them. Think fewer workers paying
into a system like social security or health care or whatever.

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Economics could stall out as a labor shortage hits industries hard,
from manufacturing to tech. Japan is already wrestling with this,
as a Raptor just pointed out in chat. Rex said, Hey,
he added to the population over when he was over there,
so it's not his fault. Rex, You're a hero. You
did your part. Japan's already wrestling with this, so we're

(40:22):
seeing their workforce is shrinking and they're leaning on automation
and immigration tweaks to cope. But it's a slow grind.
It's a very slow pattern. Now there's some people that
say this is not all doom. Fewer people could use
pressure on resources like water, food, and energy, and maybe
even given the environment a bit of a breather. But

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the transition to a lower population, I guarantee you is
going to be brutal. We are not ready for it, folks,
We're not ready for it. Rural areas could turn into
ghost towns as people migrate to cities or other countries,
leaving behind crumbling infrastructure and cultural heritage. Psychologically, it could

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mess with a society's sense of purpose or identity. Fewer
kids mean less optimism about the future. Now, some economists
like Charles Goodheart, have pointed out that declining populations can
also tank consumer demands, dragging down innovations and investments. As
far as economic and social pressures declining population could be

(41:30):
the labor shortages, strains on social security and healthcare systems,
and potential economic challenges. Again, put that in the back
of your mind. We're going to talk about that here
in just a second. The need for adaptation. Businesses and policies,
policymakers need to adapt to a changing demographic landscape. We
are seeing this right now. Washington, d C. Washington, d C.

(41:54):
The swamp does not like to change. They are a
money machine. They're a money machine, and they don't like
having their claws slapped back out of the wealth, our wealth,
our paychecks. They're freaking out as we speak right now
at this moment. They've got all the little minions out

(42:16):
there in a panicked effort to make the whole United
States try to believe that, oh my gosh, Washington is
not young. But the government's under attack, which means America's underttack.
We're doomed. No, the bureaucracy's under attack. And the funny
thing about it is, I don't see a lot of
people believing it. I don't see the grassroots outrage. You know,

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there was some grassroots outrage in twenty twenty, the summer
of twenty twenty. Okay, they convinced some morons to get
out there and actually protest. I'm not seeing at this time.
I'm seeing the grassroots people go. Now, wait a minute,
they're doing the whole Dave Chappelle thing. Dave Chappelle talks
about Donald Trump coming out and saying I know the
system is rigged because I use this, and he goes, dog, yeah,

(43:01):
what do you said? And all those same people are
looking at, you know, say the government. It's not corrupt.
It's not corrupt and not wasteful, and all the people
that usually would you know, just stand up start protesting, go, yeah,
you know, it really is wasteful and corrupt. We've been
protesting about that for decades. What are you talking about?

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So how do we counteract to this decline? Policies are
going to have to be made to support family and
encourage higher birth rates. Hm, well, think about that for
just a moment. Increased immigration. Uh oh uh oh. Some
argue that increased immigration can help offset the effects of
declining population, but this is a complex issue with various perspectives.

(43:50):
Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, are you getting
this picture? Are you getting this picture? What the white
wide world of fortunes going on here. So you're saying
that experts, to offset this, we are going to have
to bring a whole bunch of immigrants, illegal immigrants into

(44:11):
this country under the radar and make them low wage
slaves to feed our leviathan. But Donald Trump's kicking them out.
Oh no, all right, I say all this, Yeah, can't.

(44:35):
We could import millions of people every year. We did
it for the last four years. You're exactly right, politics junkie,
You're exactly right. We've been doing We did it starting
with Obama's second term. Obama's first term, he was nicknamed
the deporter in chief. Something changed. I know what changed.
Agenda twenty thirty changed, The World Economic Forum changed, and

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they all put pressure on the United State to America.
And this is documented to bring over two million illegal
well two million immigrants. They just called it open border.
Two million immigrants per year for the next twenty years.
That's what changed, and Obama did a flip Pop said yeah,
let's bring them in. Bank a man, yep, brk a man,

(45:19):
My communist all the lord said to do it. We
gotta do it. The US workforce is aging. We got
a growing number of people fifty five and older remaining
in the labor workforce, presenting both opportunities and challenges for
the employers and workers alike. It's presenting more challenges. The

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workforce is getting older. I think the last the last
great thing, the last great projection they had was like
forty two point five or something. We're an old workforce.
It's looking more like a square than it is. A
pyramid used to be a pyramid. And Jep just said, yeah,

(46:04):
I can share stuff on here, So I want to share.
I want to see if I can bring this up.
I might be able to. I don't know. It gave
me all kinds of crap here for a second. Be original.
Come on, baby, yeah, no, I want the graph. I

(46:27):
want the graph. Bring me the graph advanced proceed to
BLS dot com. I don't care if it's unsafe. They
probably are going to come on, baby, here we go. Now,
let's see if we can share this screen because this
is this is kind of interesting. It's just not gonna

(46:51):
let me do it. It's just not gonna let me
do it, you little jerks. Oh well, I try. No,
it's it's it's going to uh give me crap. Anyways,
we have an issue the labor market is really strange.

(47:16):
When you look at what's going on in the labor force,
it's it's very bizarre. Let's see labor force participation participation rate.
Let's see, like I can bring that up. You're gonna

(47:41):
do it. You're gonna do it. You're gonna do it.
Maybe they're gonna do it. I don't know. But anyways,
this is a Bureau of Labor Statistics. Had this nifty
little graft and I was wanting to show you. I
had it on out of the computer. This computer decided, yeah,
you gathering going home? Is it gonna do it? Oh
my gosh, we got the Nope, that's not the graph.
I want all of it, folks, I want all of it.

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This is not going to do it for me. These
people just suck it all just sucks. Anyways, remember back,
if you're a little older like me, you had a
summer job when you were sixteen, you had a little job.
You worked at a restaurant. My brothers and sisters, you know,
they worked at McDonald's. I was class here. I worked
at Big Boy sixteen until I graduated and went off

(48:28):
to college, where I worked few jobs under the table, cash,
under the table. I worked a few rock and roll
gigs with my hair band, did things like that, and
it's kind of I don't know, everybody had the job.

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I mean, it was very, very odd that you didn't
have a job when you were, you know, at least eighteen.
I'm looking at some of the grafts here and it's

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really odd that they just go down. You know. The
only thing that went up was people fifty five and older.
There was a hump that went from two thousand and
seven all the way to twenty twenty three. Of course
COVID everything dropped a little bit, but right at twenty
twenty all the way through now, I guess it changed

(49:38):
this whole time. And this isn't just COVID, but since
two thousand and seven, the eighteen through twenty five year
old demographic has slowly been declining, not a lot, but significantly.
Twenty five year olds are less and less in labor

(50:00):
force now than what they used to be, and it's worrisome.
Your forty to fifty five year old is your demographic
right now, with the largest with the highest employment rate.
I find that disturbing. Today's workers are older, but they're

(50:30):
better educated and more likely to have a four year
college degree than in the past. A significant portion of
older workers are employed full time. This trend is increasing.
So where is our young labor force? Where is our
young labor force? Their jobs open everywhere, everywhere, And since COVID,
I know, the job market has been a mess, but

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this started all the way back in two thousand and seven.
Trying to hire anyone to do a job, especially a
job that's just a minimum wage job, something just to
drive parts around, clean bus tables, do something for a
little bit of money. It's almost impossible to hire anybody
into these positions. I know, I am a hirer of people.

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It's slowly leading to some type of idiocracy. We can't
find people to do the jobs. And when you understand,
you understand that a sixteen to twenty four year old demographic,
which basically, let's face it, folks, from sixteen to twenty
four years old, you're working a McJob. Okay, you're working

(51:40):
on McJob. Sixteen to twenty four is when you first
start your job. In sixteen and twenty four, you're still
in college, you're getting ready to graduate college with your
bachelor's degree or whatever, or you're just you know, kind
of floundering about partying, doing whatever you're doing, until you
start waking up to the fact that hey, I'm twenty four,
I'm starting to become an adult. McJobs, there's no one

(52:02):
to flip Burger's. Kids aren't taking summer jobs anymore, they're
not taking part time jobs anymore. Is this why that
Biden and Obama administrations are trying to push two million
illegal aliens in here a year? Is this why the
World Economic Forum in the United Nations are ignoring the
sovereignty of our nation and are trying to nation build

(52:23):
with like a caste system off cheap laborers on the
very bottom and everybody else surviving on the backs of
those workers, exploiting these workers to no, yeah, you're here,
We're going to exploit you. Though. The biggest issue, the
population implosion will cause that I can see. And this

(52:47):
is why you're going to all of a sudden your
life thinking your lifetime, folks, you're going to see this
become huge, huge, And you're right, Aggie McDonald's has kiosks
for ordering things now because he can't get people to work,
so they replaced them with machines. And you are seeing
farms replaced kids with machines. I used to go do

(53:08):
quaranty tasseling. My brothers and sister did the same thing.
Used to be you'd go work at some funky job
that was just miserable, but you know, you had a
lot of people to complain with, and you haught a
good time working at a golf course mowing lawns. Whatever
the world economic for in the UN Nation and the

(53:29):
United Nations are are ignored. Are trying to ignore the
sovereignty of our nation and push two million illegals over
the border a year to nation build. They're building a
caste system. Let's face it, folks, what the the people
who oppose having border control are really advocating a slave labor.

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You can dress it up, you could call it whatever
you want, but what they want and what they need,
is slave labor. These are stupid people, okay to them.
The biggest issue with a population implosion is going to
be the decline of revenue for big Daddy government. Don't

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think for a second that the tax monitors in DC
aren't fretting and stewing about this, this eventual issue. They
see it on the horizon. Look how they're acting right
now with just one administration cleaning house and shutting unnecessary ways.
They are freaking out. They are setting themselves on fire
and cutting themselves, sending their minions, they're paid minions, out

(54:36):
into the street to act like it's some kind of
grassroot protest. I can't wait to see the science that says,
save our giant leviathans, save our giants. These people are
fighting tooth and nail to protect giant wasteful, unsustainable government.
And if we have the population reduction that is not

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possibly but probably coming, and I think it's probably coming
way before twenty seventy, think about it for a second, folks.
All it takes is a real pandemic, not a modified
Chinese woo hand lab cold. But I'm talking a real pandemic. Okay,
We've already got things like measles and all kinds of

(55:20):
weird diseases coming over the border. With these undocumented illegal
aliens who are not being tested as they come through
to make sure that they're healthy, we're having things that
we haven't seen before. All it takes is something to
catch wildfire to kill off a bunch of the younger generation.

(55:43):
I don't know, maybe a fentanyl problem, a drug problem,
and you will see this population decline, triple, quadruple. It'll
happen quickly. What we have already, ladies and gentlemen, what
we have already. You think about this. Everything that's being

(56:05):
pushed in the mainstream society and by mainstream society right now.
I'm talking the mainstream media, the Democrat Party, the leftist leftism,
right now, everything they're preaching, transgenderism, abortion, Oh my god,
don't mess with their abortion. We have to have the
right to kill our babies. Everything they're pushing right now

(56:28):
leads to sterilization, leads to population decline, leads to what
I believe we could be seeing by twenty thirty five,
the stagnation of our population and then the sudden decrease.
All it takes is one war where we're sending people

(56:51):
off to die. All it takes is one real pandemic,
a meteorite hit, a mass power outage. Think about it.
I preach this on this show all the time. I
preach this on this show all the time. And an
EMP a chromo mass ejection electromagnetic pulse knocks out the
power grid. I guarantee you, in the first thirty days,

(57:14):
the United States of America will lose fifty million people.
Almost everybody on both coasts will be eating each other
and dying in droves. They don't have a way to
sustain themselves without dependence on a razor thin infrastructure. They
just don't and it will be horrific. All it's gonna

(57:36):
take is a glitch in the system, and that population
decline is going to be massive. And when it is,
it's gonna get brutal, it's gonna get ugly. Now, it
will eventually pan out in the long run. We are
and I'm going to go the way of what I
was beginning this show off of with Paul Rlick. All

(58:00):
of his predictions were wrong. All of his doom has
not come true because we've adapted. We've adapted, we've overcome,
and eventually, if the population is to suddenly tank, will adapt,
will overcome. But what I'm saying is the transition period

(58:24):
between adapting and overcoming is going to be brutal. It's
going to be hard, and a lot of people will
die just because of that. We are a soft generation.
We've reduced ourselves down to a soft people. We don't
know how I'm talking about myself, I'm talking about the

(58:45):
population general. We don't know how to raise food in
our backyards. We don't know how to hunt food. And
when you get into these younger generations, they have no
idea which end of a hooked up, a worm out,
even a fish. You're right, Amish will take over the world.
We will have to rely on the Amish. We will
have an Amish king in America someday and we will

(59:08):
have to follow his every command if we want to live.
All of our women will be wearing pleasant Amish dresses.
We will all take baths once a week, whether we
need them or not, and we will milk all the cows.
I can't wait. To me, this sounds like paradise, except
the bath thing. That's kind of gross. What will the

(59:30):
future elected elitist snobs do when the population starts declining
here and their seemingly infinite source of revenue dries up.
Where will they get their money to feed the big, bloated,
unsustainable lebiathan. It will definitely be Maybe not for us

(59:54):
who have taken the yes ordnance says he shall be
your king. Maybe not for us we who have decided
that we are making paths, and there are kids out there,
trust me, they're living in this area. They see this
coming too. Maybe they don't know what they're seeing coming,
but they feel something's coming. Anybody with any kind of

(01:00:16):
sensitivity to their world today can see something coming down
the pike. They know there's going to be a mass change.
We can't go the way we're going. And screw you
all for making me defend Donald Trump. But he's doing
the right thing, and these people that are fighting him,
they just look stupid and silly. We need to go

(01:00:39):
through the bureaucracies and we need to jettison every single
thing that we don't need. It's going to become a
necessity before too long. If the population and stagnate and
then start phining, we'll thank ourselves. By God, I got

(01:00:59):
all of the US in by ten oh two. Folks,
as much as the mainstream media, as much as your
propaganda pushers and NPR an AP push for the overpopulation thing.

(01:01:23):
We are teaching our children not to procreate. We are
teaching our children that the institution of marriage is futile.
We're teaching our children that when they have children, it's
screwing up the world. These poor kids have no idea
what's going to happen to them. In their very own lifetimes.
And even if it is twenty seventy before this all happens,

(01:01:48):
I'll be one hundred. I'll still be pretty young. But
they will still be at the point where they'll want
to retire, and they won't be able to because they
will be stuck working until they die if we don't
change things right now, and the change happens when we
do thin out the bureaucracies, thin out the elected stupidities,

(01:02:14):
keep more of our paychecks, learn to plant our own food,
learn to grow our own food, get the government out
of our way of having chickens in our backyard and
being able to do things that are actually sustainable for us,
even if it means that the government don't get to
milk our paychecks, the poor, poor, abused government don't get

(01:02:34):
to take more of our money. Oh my gosh, who's
gonna feed the transgender Ethiopians. They're gonna have to learn
to survive on their own. I'm Alan Ray. Sunday Night
with Alan Ray. Next week, Lord Willing in the creek,
don't rise, and I may reach out for Jeff. We
have a problem coming up that's even more doomy. No,

(01:02:56):
it might be, might not be and that is the
poller shift. I'm gonna take a look at it next week.
God bless you guys. Thanks for joining me in chat
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Each and every one of you are just awesome. God
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