Sunday Night with Allen Ray: Why does it all feel like Psyops

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Welcome, It's Sunday Night with Allan Ray. I am your
humble host, Alan Ray. Welcome to my show. Man. I'll
tell you why if you didn't catch Charles Vincent or
Vinson Charles Project screwed up. Man, it was hysterical. My
stomach still hurts from laughing at all that. That was
like one of the the most epic off the cuff
shows I've ever heard. Oh, this is why you need

(04:07):
to just lock it on KLARN Radio on ex just
keep it here. I mean, we have like the best
of everything. Last week I hit I touched on this
story about a couple of suspects got into a shootout
in Vermont with a Border Patrol agent. One of the
suspects died, a Border Patrol agent died, and then a

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few days later, of all people, well I shouldn't say
all people because they're usually on top of things. Bumpstock,
Barbie Laura, who you hear right here on Kylaarn Radio
on Saturday nights she did. Of course, this is her forte,
this is her thing. She come across the story that
uh that was actually part of a cult that was uncovered.

(04:56):
And of course we all know Andy Nigo. I guess
his name is? He posted on exit. Liberal media has
been uninterested in investigating the couple involved in shooting a
dead shooting dead a US Border Patrol agent in Coventry, Vermont,
near the Canadian border on Inauguration Day. Why both in
the duo are leftist trans militants? One of the deceased

(05:20):
arms armed militants is we say, where did he go?
So there's two transgender individuals involved, both of whom we
known federal or who were known to federal authorities. God
him losing my train of thought here, it's derailing. According
to NGO, federal law enforcement have been surveiling German Man

(05:42):
Felix Ophelia Ballholt in Seattle uh AT and student Teresa
Milo Young Bolt after staff that's what she goes by,
is Teresa Milo Youngbolt. So it's actually Felix. After staff
at Lennonville, Vermont motel reported seeing them with a black
tactical clothing, weapons and protecting militia style equipment. When the

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duo was pulled over on January twentieth, young But allegedly
shot dead Officer David Mound in a surprise attack, and
the returning fire Bachholt, who was also armed, was killed.
Young Blow was injured and survived. When Felix aka Ophelia
social media was leaked, it turns out that the duo
was linked to a violent and militant transgender cult who

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follows someone who refers to themselves as zizz Ziz. How
left wing can you get from that name? And you're right,
Jeff Vibe. Jeff said last week there's more of the story,
and he was right. If that's not wild enough, this
cult is linked to three other murders throughout the US.

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The gun that the duo used is tied to a
double murder of an elderly couple in January twenty twenty
two in Pennsylvania, but the murder of an eighty two
year old in Vallejo, California was a stabbing by a
person link to Young What. A person by the name
of Maximilian Snyder, who had applied for a marriage license
to Teresa Milo Youngbook was arrested for the stabbing murder

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of the Vallejo victim and was also associated with this
cult the California Victims. Survived an initial attack in twenty
twenty two where he was stabbed with a sword and
one of his eyes was removed as revenge when he
evicted alleged members of the Ziz cult. He was stabbed
in the neck and killed in the street on January seventeenth,
twenty twenty five. So they got him eventually. These attacks

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come on the heels of some prominent mass shootings carried
out by transgender individuals and highlight a scary trend of
increasing violence by the transgender identified people who typically used
to be more like or more likely to be the
victims of violence rather than the perpetrators. Curtis Lend barely
survived the first attack and was said to be the
key murder and attempted murder trial witness against the alleged

(07:55):
members of the ZIZ trans terror group before he was
stabbed in the neck and killed this month. According to
Andy to Go, so oh there was more of that story, Yes,
lots more of that story. And I don't know what.
Why isn't the media focused this on this at all? Well,

(08:17):
you know, we're gonna kind of touch on that tonight.
In fact, that was probably the one and only story
unless I run out of time, which I doubt because
you know me, I can carry on like a bunch
of gossipy old women in a hair salon when I
need to. We're gonna get into something very different tonight,
something that's been weighing on my mind, something that you know,

(08:40):
I hardly ever get on Facebook. The Book of Faces,
and just to acknowledge, we got already in the chat.
We got Rex in the chat. We got Jeff in
the chat. If you're not in the chat, get in
the chat. What's probably in get in, got got out.
But anyways, we're going to get into something. It's funny
because the Vincent Charles Project kind of mentioned it tonight.

(09:01):
Almost blew what I was gonna do. You're right, what
would William Defoe do? Charles isn't the jat Oh, don't
feed the Costners. Don't feed the Costs. I asked Groc
during a show to make me a picture of a
bunch of Kevin Costners in a swimming in a tank underwater,

(09:26):
and almost broke Groc. It was like what it was amazing. Anyways,
stay on focus at fow gus, stay on target. What's
been bothering me lately is and I guess since I
went down this rabbit hole, I noticed it more and
more and it's getting more and more disturbing, more and
more open, and nobody and no side, particular side is

(09:50):
immune to it. And I'm talking about college which you
want sy ops. There's the picture right there. It was beautiful.
It was beautiful. Not even gonna deny it. I'm talking
about propaganda. I'm talking about psyops. I'm talking about whatever

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you want to call it, public relations. You're swimming in it,
You're drowning in it. It goes deep. It's been around
for a very very long time, and to tell you

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the truth, it's being perfected. And in twenty twenty five,
when you are sitting online, when you are on Twitter, Facebook,
any of the social media platforms, even on just online,
we could go into the dead Internet theory, but just
online at all, you're subjecting yourself to propaganda, to the psyops,

(11:00):
subjecting yourself to public relations. You can't listen to the radio,
watch TV, walk down the street. It's almost like we
are in a living episode of They Live. And you're right, Bencent,
you're soaking in it right now. Just call me the

(11:23):
Madge of psyops. Don't go anywhere. Let's jump into this.

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I just went right to the Army website and right there,
in front of God and everybody, they had one hundred
year years of subterfuge, the history of Army psychological operations,
and if you just tool around on the internet really
seriously in the United States of America, and we're just
talking about here for the most part, but we are

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going to talk about other countries too, because it's just
just everywhere you can pinpoint syops all the way to
the Revolutionary War. The Revolutionary War where they would take
printing presses and painstakingly ride out pamphlets that made people
feel that they were a part of a group. The
actual revolutionaries in the Revolutionary War, there wasn't that many

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of them. It's kind of the eighty twenty rule. Twenty
percent of the people were doing eighty percent of the
work in the revolution. But there was syops going there,
not thing like they are now. But let's jump into
that and this I'm going to attribute this to the
Army dot Mill, the United States Army Fort Bragg, North Carolina,
On January twenty third, twenty eighteen, US Army reached the

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historic milestone those is back in twenty eighteen. This is
written one hundred years of dedicated psychological operations support to
military and national security objectives. Of course, the practice of
using psychological tactics to influence foreign populations predated nineteen eighteen. However,
it was not until World War One that the US
waged the first orchestrated military propaganda campaign in its history,

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establishing two agencies specifically for that purpose. The first agency
was Psychologic Subsection under MI two, Military Intelligence Branch, Executive Division,
War Department, General Staff. The second was the Propaganda Section
under G two, General Headquarters, American Expeditionary Forces in France.

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Taken together, these two agencies introduced an American military propaganda capability.
Entering World War One in April nineteen seventeen, the US
War Department had no capacity to conduct what is commonly
known as psychological operations or syops, or what is doctrinally
referred to today as military information support operation or MISO

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miso miso, I don't know what they call it. On
January twenty third, nineteen eighteen, Major Charles H. Mason head
of MI two in the War Department Military Intelligence Branch,
direct Commission Captain Hebrew Blankenhorn straight from civilian life to
establish and lead the Psychologic Subsection for the purpose of
organizing the implementation and combat of the psychologic factor and

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the strategic situation. Quite a nebulous charter for the new officer, now,
I'm quoting right off of this article. President Woodrow Wilson
vehemently opposed the idea of military run propaganda, so Blankenhorne's
low key activities were initially limited to research and planning.
He spent ensuing weeks walking the and knocking on doors
throughout the War Department trying to get support for his

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idea of waging leaflet warfare overseas in support of General
John J. Pershing's American Expeditionary forces in France. Having received
little support for this concept, Blankenhorn bypassed several layers in
his chain of command at secured a meeting with the
Secretary of War Newton D. Baker on June twenty first,

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nineteen eighteen eighteen, and at the meeting, Baker was surprisingly
open to military propaganda. I think we should do this,
he said, I give my approval to it right now,
subject to one condition. The President has had some misapprehensions
about this, but I will take this matter up with him.
If I say nothing further, it's approved, so approval by silence.

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Blake and Art interpreted Baker's words as a green light,
and obtained approval from Brigadier General Marlborough Churchill, head of
the Military Intelligence Division, to recruit and deploy with a
small team, with popular social commentator and new public editor
Walter Lippman as his deputy. Blankenhorn and his team deployed
in July nineteen eighteen and reported to the G two

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GHQ AEF. The team, never numbering more than thirty is
signed and attached officers and soldiers, went operational in August
nineteen eighteen. So officially that is the start of the
actual SAP in the army. So you can pinpoint it

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all the way back to there, and you can bring
it all the way up through to today. We still
use sy ops today. It's a In fact, I dare
to say it's as big or a bigger part of
the Armed Forces today than it ever has been. Now

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we will not get into there is an actual YouTube
channel or influencer. Actually, I think she's on TikTok and
Reddit called military girl or syops girl, who is actually
running a syops deal. Right now, that's the conspiracy theory

(17:10):
of trying to lure because you know as well as
I do, especially if you've been in the military. I
have not, but I've been around military my entire life.
She's trying to lure young men and women into the
syops division of the military, into the military itself. Recruiting
numbers have tainked. Recruiting numbers are way way down, and

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we won't get into why that is. Maybe someday we
will get into why that is. A lot of it
has to do with gen Z and absolute untrust of
the government. But already Clinton downsizing got my brother too,
Clinton downsizing. He got a forty thousand dollars bio. They

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told him to hit the road, and after what he
went through with a little and getting a divorce, he said, yeah,
forty grand sea. So yes, Bill Clinton destroyed the military,
not even kidding. But there's just a lot behind the
military and psychological operations. We all know World War two

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was full of syops. Vietnam was crazy with SIPs of fact.
They created bombs and these bombs weren't the explosive kinds.
These bombs would actually disintegrate a couple of thousand feet
in the air and allow all of these pamphlets to
float gently down into the jungles or into populated cities

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and try to convince and demoralize North Vietnamese troops into
just going home, deserting, giving up, so they didn't die.
Very limited success, but it did have some success. It was, not, however,

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limited to the military. It's very much part of our
existence and it has been. And the funny thing about it,
we all know it's there. It's not limited to one
side or the other. It's not limited to left wing

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or right wing psyops. I guess if you wanted to
really call it something in regular civilian terms would be
called propaganda. We've made it much more palatable here in
twenty twenty five, actually several years ago, we started it
calling it public relations. Now it's not all bad. It's

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not all bad. Some of it is, some of it
can be used very nefariously. We just went through just
a few years ago a major syop, a major propaganda
campaig and the farther we get on the other side

(20:04):
of this syop. But the other side of this major campaign,
the more facts, actual facts roll out, we realized just
how big and how ugly the pyops was. And I'm
talking of course COVID, And it wasn't on one side,
it was on both sides. But the bad part about
it of it is that it was coming from government bureaucracies.

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For the most part, it had everyone. We'll get into
what makes AO a syop? What makes propaganda propaganda? The
worst part of it is it was coming straight from
our government, straight from the bureaucracies. A lot of times
it was pushed as fact. And once I started getting

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into what makes propaganda or what makes a psyop a syop,
You'll go, oh man, you could go right down and
just check all of the marks off. Then it's not
the first time. So I guess let's start out, and

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I want to talk quite a bit on the civilian
side of this. There are a lot of things, and
you don't, you know, very eutistical. I'm egotistically, you're egotistical
in a certain you know, all different levels. We would
like to think that we are intelligent enough that we

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don't fall for a psychological operation, We don't fall for propaganda.
We don't We're not influenced by things like that.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
But dear listener, yes you are. Yes, you are, starting
with your breakfast, going all the way through your day.
You are influenced by propaganda. You almost cannot help it. Now.
This is a lot of psychology going on here. So
I'm automatically riveted to it because well I've said it

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before on my show, and at at the point of
sounding redundant, I'm big into psychology and my degree he
had leans heavily on psychology and especially leadership in psychology.
And this is everything, This is everything about it. You
cannot get into modern day propaganda, modern day psyops without

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acknowledging a man named Edward Burnez. Edward Burnees was born
in eighteen ninety one. He lived all the way to
nineteen ninety five. He was an old boy. He was
one hundred and three when he passed away. He is

(22:45):
basically credited for uh, hubane sauce. Yeah, yeah, the same thing,
same thing.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
He's credited for some of the biggest psychological operations, propagandas
you name it, whatever you want to call it, public
relations that you can think of. He is the father
of modern day, syops. And I'm talking to syops where

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a government of bureaucracy or even a large corporation says,
I want to change the public perspective on something that
they even don't know about or may not be one
hundred percent on board with, and I need to change
their perspective on this. He is the man who started

(23:37):
out and now we're talking sauces and Chad. That's okay, guys.
There's a reason I don't have a six pack and
it has to do with gravy and sauces. I'm going
to throw that out there right now, so don't get
saucy with me. Brenez. One of the biggest things one
is is very first and huge, huge campaigns was women smoking.

(24:12):
Bernez number one and let me find this article because
I was credited with basically having you know, they went
to him and uh and it was, oh, man, I
gotta find this. Yeah, we'll just throw at this one
right here. I'm sure it's in here somewhere, getting women

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to smoke. And this is right in the middle of
the women's suffrage movement. I remember he was born a
long long time ago. Uh. He set out during a
parade to have women smoke, and it was very controversial

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at the time. Well, he changed the perspective on it,
which was absolutely phenomenal. What he did he changed a
perspective by calling them freedom torches instead of cigarettes, and
he had these women smoking these cigarettes. The bad thing

(25:23):
about it was and this is how hard, This is
how hard he went on this psyop. At the time,
Lucky Strikes were green, their packaging was green. Well, green
was frowned upon. Women just didn't like that color. It
was found out that they just didn't care much for
that color. So what does he do. Instead of changing

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the color of the package, which would have made the
cigarettes basically unrecognizable, he goes to the big wigs in
New York, all of the fashion industry moguls, and says,
this summer, I want to see her this spring, I
want to see green roll out. Green needs to be
the color that women embrace. And there was fashion shows,

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all the high you know, high and mighty stars and
all of the rich, wealthy women were green. Well, lo
and behold, green packaging and cigarettes became quite popular. I
see where it's going. And then women's suffrage movement, which
also was going on at the time, very popular very trendy.

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He's got these women and they're smoking Freedom Torches cigarettes.
Next thing you know, women are smoking and Lucky Strike
cigarettes are their brand. They are indulably connected. When you
think of women's rights, you think of them smoking. Lucky
Strike cigarettes became the brand. Huge, huge sigh up. Edward

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Brene's understood the psychology of changing people's frame of reference,
changing people's thinking on different things. Absolutely phenomenal. There was

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other things too. Ah, here's here's one of the really
good let me get the original up here etology ortalogy
dot com found a really good four PR campaigns that
made modern marketing. Come on computer. I've been even hopefully
everything is still going strong and everything's still coming through

(27:41):
loud and clear. I haven't having a heck of a
time with my internet tonight. It's just so slow. It's
giving me. Another one that he had was soap ivory soap.
There was another huge marketing thing. Burne's actually, of course,
you know who's the biggest enemy of soap? Little kids?

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You know, a little kid that likes to be clean. Well,
they are nowadays, but back then that was the enemy
of soap. So what does he do? He has soap
carving competitions. He has competitions to make soap boats. He
does all of these things to get kids with soap
in their hands, cranking up the market on all of it.

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Absolutely phenomenal, says Burne's work with Procter and Gamble and
Ivory Soap is another textbook case of marketing, psychology and
action and the Burne's lineup thinking. He aimed to broaden
the market by tackling children's and eate distaste for soap
and bathing while distinguishing the brand from competitors. Inspired by
an artist he had met who used soap instead of

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wax to carb miniature sculptures, brene created the annual National
Soap Sculpture Competition to inspire children, the enemies of soap,
to get creative with it. The competition ran annually for
twenty five years and involved millions of children's and cast
the name Ivory Soap into the public consciousness. Brenez also
started the events up that's the one that's That's exactly it,

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such as Soap Yacht Race in Central Park to prove
it floated better than competitor brands, and employed a medical
consultant survey American hospitals and their preference for white, unperfumed
soaps such as ivory rather than the colored scented soaps. Okay,
what does he do? He gets the medical industry sound
familiar as you can imagine. Brene's methods words still are
extremely contentious, especially when utilized in the public sphere and politics,

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but the introduction of psycho analytical techniques and shaping consumer
demands is the foundation by which all modern marketing is built.
Burne's was the man behind it. He was the man.
He look he like a man. Let's see if mister uh, well,
I'm telling you what, it's really difficult to do this show,

(29:59):
and my internet is acting so stupid tonight. So anyways,
Edward Brenes was the guy who you attribute to those
two things. But there's one more. Have you ever heard

(30:20):
the phrase breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Well, lo,
and behold same guy with that amount of bacon. We've

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all heard the saying breakfast is the most important meal today,
and Brenees wanted went some way to creating that. The
Beechnut Packing Company was struggling to sell one of its
largest meat products, bacon, so it employed the expertise of
the reputable Brenees. Rather than simply reduced the price, Brenees
posed a more probing question, who tells the public what
to eat? Burnet spoke to numerous physicians, and together they

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concluded that a hearty breakfast was better than a light one.
So there you go, went right to the medical industry.
Physicians jumped on board. The American breakfast of the time
was just toast, orange juiced and coffee that would be
thrown on the scrap heat. Burne's got five thousand physicians
to sign a statement that agreed a protein rich, heavy
breakfast of say, bacon and eggs, was healthier than a

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light one. The petition was published in newspapers, and the
all American breakfast was born, with huge spike in what
sales of bacon? Five thousand physicians jumped on board? Is
any of this sounding familiar to anybody in chat? Right here?
In twenty twenty five, Burne's applied more psycho analytical methodologies

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to improve well, I can't even say that Burne's applied
more psychoanalytical methodology to improving the sales of Betty Crocker
and the Cake Mix. This is a great one after
a focus group conducted on the target market, American housewives,
he concluded that they felt an unconscious guilt for using
a product that required sole little effort to make the

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answer give them a greater sense of participation by requiring
them to add an egg to the mixture. Sales sword
is the symbolic egg tickled the depth of the subconsciousness
and remove the barrier of guilt. Oh yeah, craisant with
butter and jam and coffee. That's not a bad thing
for me. It's a bagel with cream, cheese and coffee,

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darn near every morning. So there you have it. The soap,
the hearty breakfast, Torches of freedom. Was that right? Yeah?
Lucky Strike screen packaging there it is right there. Also
on that Lucky Strike thing, says the audacious campaign went
further to break the taboo of smoking in public. Brenets

(32:55):
linked Lucky Strike cigarettes of course to the Lemon's Women's
Liberation movement. So that confirms what I was saying. That's
in here too. Torch is a freedom Lucky Strike cigarettes.
So Edward Burnez is the man who actually really started
the syops and of course take products out of the

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mix and put politics in take products out of the mix.
Put oh, I don't know vaccines in. Take products out
of the mix. Put in, I don't know global climate change.

(33:40):
One right after another. It's nine thirty. We'll come back.
I'm gonna do something really bizarre. I asked artificial intelligence
how much psyops and propaganda was there in social media?
The answer will surprise you. Don't go.

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So I'd worked by names. We definitely have to give
him the credit for modern day syops, modern day propaganda,
public relations, as it were. That's a really pretty phrase
of calling things the syops. Now, is it all that bad?

Speaker 8 (36:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, the smoking thing, yeah, we'll call that bad. The
soap thing, yeah, not so much, not so much. I mean,
kids are kind of mullible and vulnerable, and he got
them to like soap and to take baths, and well,
so there's good and bad. So I did this, doing

(37:18):
what I do. I went into two different artificial intelligence databases,
GROC and the Great Googlely Machine, and I asked them
the question, how much of social media is syops? Just
general from our country, from China, Russia, China, China. I'm

(37:42):
so glad Trump's president, just because I like to hear
him say China. I asked them how much social media
is syops? And this is what GROC said. Determining the
exact proportion of social media content that constitutes psychological operations
as challenging due to the secretive nature of these activities

(38:03):
in the scale of social media itself. However, based on
available information and analysis, here are some insights. You're exactly right, Jeff,
Jeff says. Can you imagine three years ago saying I
used grac Yeah. No. General observations, there's broad consensus that
a significant portion of social media activity could be linked

(38:26):
to syops, especially in contexts aimed at influencing public opinion,
elections or creating social unrest. Posts on x suggest that
some users believe a considerable percentage up to ninety percent
of content could be manipulation or syops. Read that again,

(38:47):
up to ninety percent believed by some people of the
content could be manipulation or syops, though these are highly
anecdotal and not empirically verified. Military and intelligence involvement. According
to various reports, state actors, including but not limited to,
the US, Russia, and China, have engaged in syops via

(39:10):
social media. An example includes the US military's use of
fake accounts and personas on the platforms like Twitter and
Data Meta, leading to the review of these operations in
twenty twenty two. This indicates organized, albeit covert, efforts to
influence narratives and behavior online technological facilitations. The use of bots,

(39:34):
AI generated content and algorithms enable the dissemination of syops
at scale. Research and reports how highlight how these technologogies
are employed to spread disinformation or manipulate public sentiment. And
now let's go to commercial and political syops. Beyond state actors,
commercial entities and political campaigns also engage in forms of

(39:58):
psychological manipulation through social media, using data analytics to target
individuals with tailored messages. This extends to influencing consumers' behaviors
or political views. Detection and countermeasures. There's an ongoing work
by social media platforms, researchers, and governments to detect and
mitigate syops. However, the adaptability of these operations means they

(40:21):
continue to evolve, making it hard to quantify their presence definitively.
In summary, while there's no definitive percentage that can be
attributed to SYOPS and social media. It's clear that such
operations are significant in influencing online discourse. The actual impact
varies by platform, geography and the sophistication of the operation.

(40:42):
Given the clandestine nature of SYOPS, any specific quantification would
be speculative, but the consensus from both academic and public
discourse course is that it is a noticeable and growing phenomena.
So it's there. Now, that's GROC. Let's go to Google. Now,
we all know Google's had their problems. We all know

(41:04):
that Google has been caught red handed, red handed, pushing
certain narratives to the front of their search engines, engaging
themselves in psychological operations propaganda. So you ask Google AI
the same question, and this is their answer. Determining the

(41:26):
exact percentage of social media content that constitute SYOPS is
impossible due to its coolot nature. Okay, that's about the same,
But experts agree. Experts agree. Experts agree. Sounds like a
SYOP phrase, does it not. Experts agree that a significant
portion of online discourse, particularly on platforms with extensive user data,

(41:47):
can be influenced by targeted campaigns utilizing disinformation, propaganda at
manipulation tactics, especially when employed by governments or entities seeking
to sway public opinion, making social media of fertile ground
for potential syops activities. Okay, I agree one hundred percent
with that, Google, And this is the point of what
I'm driving at today. Social media is a snake pit,

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It is a It is a garden, a fertile garden,
just wonderfully great for syops. Now goes on to say
targeting advertising. Social media platforms allow for highly targeted ads. Okay,
we know that bot networks and fake accounts, automated accounts,

(42:32):
and fake profiles can be used to amplify certain messages
or create false perception of public opinion. How does that work?
We know how that works. You know, ten thousand bots
roll in and say, you know, orange Man bad, Orange
Man Dad, Orange man Dad, orange man bad. Nothing wrong
with the president, is nothing wrong with Joe Biden, nothing
wrong with them. He's fine, mentally fat, mentally fat. Thousands

(42:53):
and thousands of bots. Where the normal person who doesn't
realize there's such a thing as a psychological manipulation, this
says wild. Everybody seems to think that he's just fine,
and their shocks shocked, devastated when he goes on TV
and he can't even put together a sentence. Troll farms,
coordinator groups of individuals spreading inflammatory content to disrupt online

(43:16):
conversation and so discord. Okay, we know all about that
information manipulation, deliberately spreading misinformation, have truths or misleading narratives
to influence public perception. We know about that. This is
all Google AI answering me. Google AI does something different.
It says important factors to remember. Not all influencing is malicious.

(43:39):
While syops involve deliberate manipulation. Not every persuasive message online
is necessarily a syop. Of course, I'm sure they're talking
about green energy, climate change, all the left wing things
that they like to use as syops. Number two difficulty
in detection. Identifying syops campaigns could be challenging as they

(44:00):
often operate discreetly. Okay, that agrees with CROC. And three.
Public awareness is key. Understanding the pole for online manipulation
can help individuals critically evaluate information they encounter on social media.
So that is flat out asking two different AI sources

(44:21):
about how much psyops is involved in X or Reddit
or TikTok or the Book of Faces. We all see
the result of it. We all know the result of it.

(44:44):
And just this last forty eight hours, I gotta say,
scrolling through a lot of the Twitter, I don't get
on Facebook that much. Facebook to me is just I
don't know. Once Facebook went to basically all pictures and

(45:06):
people showing, you know, their how great of a life
they're living, and the food they're eating and all that,
and I know it's fake because I know most these
people are just miserable hacks. I don't get on it
that much. I check every once in a while to
make sure everybody I know and love is doing okay.
And that's it. Facebook is like is like checking in

(45:28):
on a bunch of toddlers. But even so, you can
tell just exactly when you just go in there and
scroll for a while and look, and I did that today.
You can tell just exactly who has been influenced by propaganda,
who's been influenced by the psyops known as social media.
And it's bad, folks, It's bad. It's really bad. Now

(45:56):
there's even some ethics concerns, and you know the business community,
they're all about ethics, wanting to stay somewhat ethical, trying
to skirt the line as close as possible without crossing it.
That's just business and reputation sciences. Dot com came out
with the propaganda in public relations. I thought those two

(46:17):
were synonymous. Propaganda and public relations are all the same.
And I'll tell you about that in a second, hopefully
if I remember what every PR professional needs to know now,
public relations in my world is propaganda. When you see, well,
we've just witnessed four years of probably the most heavy

(46:38):
public relations campaigns you've ever seen, trying to convince you
that our commander in chief since twenty twenty is mentally
fit to lead this country. That, folks, is just the
biggest PR push you've ever seen in your life. I
bet those PR people are I bet they were all
just they breathe a sigh of relief when he was
out of there. I had to have been a nightmare.

(47:01):
I almost feel sorry for them, except it's a viper pit.
PR game says in the fast moving field of public relations,
grasping the sub subtilties of propaganda's crucial for PR professionals
who want to create positive associations and shape public perceptions
through effective communication and storytelling. So it goes through the

(47:23):
history and all of that it tells you that there
has to be ethics, that the PR campaigns the thing
that happened. They want ethics, and without ethics and public relations,
it just becomes evil. And you get down to the
very bottom of the article, go through all the history

(47:44):
and all this crap, which we've already discussed, says Spotting
propaganda and public relations involve recognizing red flags that may
indicate misinformation or manipulation. Fake news propaganda often employs techniques
such as manipulated statistics, sounds, familiar, fake testmodials, ooh six
feet two weeks to slow the curb, gotta stand six

(48:05):
feet apart? Huh? What fifty one security experts saying that
hunter Biden's laptop was rushing disinformation huh? And the distortion
of facts to create a false sense of consensus. Key
indicators include exaggerated emotional appeals, one sided narratives without credible sources,

(48:27):
and overly simplistic messages. Let me go through that again.
Spot propaganda in PR. Key indicators include exaggerated emotional appeals
think of the children, right, two, one sided narratives without
credible sources. If you don't believe in XYZ that men

(48:50):
are women, and whatever. Then you're just a flyover state
hicck YadA, YadA YadA, and overly simplistic messages. To protect themselves,
audience should cross reference information with reputable sources, examine the
motives behind the communication, and look for the counter arguments

(49:10):
or differing perspectives. I'm going to add one more here,
follow the money. Now. This is all aimed at PR professionals,
trying to get them to actually use a little bit
of ethics. PR professionals can avoid propaganda by adhering to
ethical practices such as ensuring transparency, parency, providing accurate information,
and fostering genuine audience engagement. This sounds like a plea

(49:33):
by somebody who's finally woke up to the fact that
we have an issue going on, not just in this country,
but in this world. Look at the World Economic Forum,
the World Health Organization, the United Nations, look at all
of them. It's pretty easy to realize that we're soaking

(49:59):
in propagation. You can't go anywhere without it. Media WIJS
had a good little list here, nice little list ten
characteristics of propaganda, how to recognize propaganda, and they just
go right to the point. I mean, they do at
mess with it. Yeah, they describe it a little bit afterwards,

(50:22):
but I want to check this out here. Number one,
the message compels you to do or think something. So
the message compels you. They want you to do something
or think something, motivates you. The message targets a specific
group of people victims. Ah, yeah, we can go on

(50:46):
and on about that. Number three, there is a clear opponent. Hmmm,
like flyover State picks red state people. The message paints
a stereotypical image of the opponent. Guys in chat, you know,

(51:08):
are we getting this? I mean, it's just you can
just go right down and check the things off. The
message presents complicated matters as if they are simple. Give
all of your money to the government and we will
make the weather gooder. Yeah. The message evokes emotion. Now

(51:30):
there's a big one. We've been seeing this for the
past couple of weeks, especially fake of the children. You're
going into schools and you're ripping families apart. The message
evokes emotions. Same. The message is brief and easy to repeat.

(51:51):
Pay attention to the use of slogans. If you see
a slogan, odds are you're seeing propaganda. Odds are you're
seeing a sayab you know what, Jeff where I work
did the same thing that the left is freaking out

(52:12):
that we are actually destroy What is what is happening
is we're destroying their plan that they've been implementing since
the Obama administration to flood this country with two million
They call it just immigrants, but they want open borders,
so two million people here can flood the borders to
and I quote this is out of their own websites,

(52:33):
to fundamentally transform the way the people of the United
States vote. They gave it away anyways, I got that
right off of their websites. The message contains lies, half truths,
and quotes that have been taken out of context. Number nine,

(52:54):
the message can only be found via a limited set
of medias. In other words, if you start investigating that message,
investigating what they're trying to get at, the actual propagand
the actual boiled down root of the message can only
be found in a few places like giant corporate medium.
And Finally, ten, the message makes use of symbolism. Ooh

(53:27):
here in twenty twenty five, I mean, maybe you should
just take that list and put it on your computer
and every time you see a tweet that looks just
the least been suspicious, Go right down that list on
a compel you to think or do something targets a
specific group of people. There's a clear opponent, and message
paints the stereotypical image of the opponent. Presents complicated matters

(53:49):
that they're simple, evokes emotions, brave and easy to repeat.
You know, a slogan or something like that. Oh boy,
half truth quotes have been taken out of context, smirks
by you know kid in high school. A message can
only be found be a limiteds in a media, and
a message makes use of symbolism. Wow. Taking that list

(54:10):
of ten items and using it as a litmus test
against two thirds of the messages you hear in politics.
Messages you hear from and I quote, settled science. Messages
you hear from people who think that they just know

(54:32):
how you should act and live better than how you
think you should. Your world economic forums, your Club of Rome's,
your your United Nations agenda twenty thirties. Propaganda, folks, we

(54:54):
are drowning in propaganda. I don't see it getting any better.
I truly do not see it getting it. And in fact,
I've mentioned this in conversation, to people around me, to
my children. At times, our federal government spends an I've

(55:18):
seen amount of money backdoor via colleges, campuses and studies,
you know, big industry, medical industry, studies studying human psychology.
We have for quite some time. Call it what you will,
I mean, take it all the way back to some

(55:39):
of the seventies and sixties and fifties where they tried
to figure out how to manipulate people they're thinking with drugs.
LSD is a big one juxtaposition here on every once
in a while, on Saturday night, every other Saturday night,
usually huge thing on it. Come to find out, we

(56:08):
download the biggest psy ops tool we can possibly imagine,
right to our phones, and we stick our nose in
it every single day. Amazing. Yes, I know your show already.
I love your show. In fact, I was kind of

(56:29):
halfway involved in starting juxtaposition, surely by accident, by calling
rowdy Rick Robinson and talking to him all the way
home about the Navy disclosing that they knew that there
were things flying around they didn't know about. And it's
funny because I found a couple of different things. While
we wrap up this show I found an article, and

(56:53):
basically it was Norwich University had a bunch of pictures
of propaganda and some of the biggest ones the peerd
of capitalist system, the anti capitalist nineteen eleven, the anti
capitalist movement nineteen eighteen. Liberty Loan Drive was a propaganda drive.
Nineteen forties and fifties helped keep your school all American.

(57:15):
They were using Superman and superheroes and everything. Nineteen forty
two Women in war, We can't win without a nineteen
forty two boy, we set those women to factories to
build things. Nineteen forty three Rosy the Riveter. We can
do it, Old Rosie the Riveter. God bless them. Nineteen

(57:36):
sixty four. Daisy Girl political campaign propaganda used by Linda B.
Johnson during his run for president. Political ad featured an
innocent little girl and a nuclear bomb. The commercial was
aimed at GOP presidential nominee Barry Goldwater and his controversial
comments about atomic warfare. It worked. How many of you

(57:58):
know who Berry Goldwater? And then finally, this is right
on this, this is right on here, right on this picture.
Thing from a college two thousand and eight, big poster,
Go tell your mama I'm for Obama. Artist Ray Nolan
created a widely known poster which emphasized Barack Obama's history

(58:21):
of community organizing and support for grassroots consensus building, otherwise
known as communism. Barack Obama was a communist. He had
communists all over his campaign. In fact, when I did
that whole article for Misfit Politics on where all of

(58:42):
these huge trains of migrants coming towards America were coming from,
and I narrowed it down to a bunch of groups
in Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, mostly Chicago. Most of
the people in those groups were on Barack Obama's campaign.
It's amazing. It's amazing, it's all over, it's all around us.

(59:11):
We're bathing it. I want to leave you with this,
and this is from the zet there now is that
Donald Trump is a Russian asset. Now this is done
quite a while ago, this February twenty fourth, twenty twenty four,

(59:35):
a year ago. Number Two, conspiracy theory and full of
reform groups on the writer trying to overthrow the constitution.
Overthrow the constitution. Three, there's a conspiracy theory out there
that right wing groups will erupt in violence of Donald
Trump loses the presidential race. Four, The Hamasa on Israel

(01:00:01):
was a false flag staged by Israel. On reel, these
are not right wing conspiracy theories. Every one of these
that I'm reading right now are liberals. And I'm just
gonna end it right there. Just know, Just know, as
you scroll through whatever social media you have, Twitter, x, Reddit, TikTok,

(01:00:28):
the Book of Faces, meta, whatever you want to call it,
when you run across things that stoke in emotion, that
piss you off, make you want to kick puppies and
shake babies, or that make you want to be all
patriotic and yeah, let's go to war. Check yourself, make
sure it's not propaganda.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Noticed and this is this is straight up attacking some
of the right wing. I don't know media outlets, whatever
they are, there is a group and I don't know
if these are FEDS trying to lure people in or
if they're actually a propaganda outlet that they just haven't
uncovered yet. There is a certain criteria that I see

(01:01:16):
sometimes that I check off that if I see that,
if somebody follows me and I go onto their account
and I see it, there's a lot of times I
just nope, don't follow them back, just ignore them, put
them on ignore block. And I don't know these are
not I'm not talking facts right now. I'm just talking
what I've noticed. You get a counts sometime that follow

(01:01:40):
you hooray, maga patriot blah blah blah talking to mama
blah blah blah. And Abby is like an impossibly beautiful girl,
impossibly beautiful. Number two, they have one hundred and fifty
thousand people following them. One hundred and fifty thousand people

(01:02:01):
following them, but they only follow about one hundred and
fifty two hundred people. Number three, they don't have any
humanist thoughts. There's nothing like, Hey, guys, my car broke down.
Things are going bad today. My kid's going back to college.
I'm upset about it. I've hurt myself and I'm gonna

(01:02:24):
be off for a few days trying to recover. Or
it's all politics one hundred percent foot on the throttle,
go go go. And these are on the left too.
Jojo from Jersey is one of the big ones. Who's
that one guy that he thinks he's all that, but
we all know he's paid. We know who he is. Now, Hey, yep,

(01:02:48):
then went to usaid, you're right, Jeff, there's a lot
of these Number three. If you do follow these people,
they follow you and they follow them back, and then
they unfollow you because they want hundreds of thousands of
people follow them, but they don't want to see that
anybody else in their timeline. It's a one way street.
It's my suspicion that every one of these people are bots.

(01:03:13):
They're propaganda spreading bots, and some of them I think
actually work for the ESSA or the FBI or the CIA.
Some of them I think are hooked directly to some
Chinese bot farm, getting everything stirred up, getting everybody emotional,

(01:03:34):
getting everybody ready to kill the other side. We're already
up to ten o four. I knew I could speak
an entire hour on this. It worries me. It's worriesome.
We have quite honestly, quite literally created the perfect psyops

(01:03:58):
machine in social media. Perfect perfect. You can sit there
and scroll through it for hours on end, and you
can make a snarky comment to somebody with thirteen followers
that just has been as a ten year old to
count with thirteen followers, and they start trying to argue
with you and draw you in just to get you

(01:04:19):
stirred up. They're about they're propaganda, they're psyops. What's the
end game? Is it to keep your head in social
media and not pay attention to what's going on in
real life? Is it to get you to think a

(01:04:43):
certain way to the point where it draws you into
being a violent insurrectionist just so you can be taken down,
taken out? How many of these people actually do have
purple hair shaved all the way up to the top
of their head. Guys putting on dresses? How many of

(01:05:07):
those are actually bots? You don't really see it a
whole lot out in meat space, as already likes to
declare it, but yet you see it on social media
over and over and over and over again. It's got
me thinking. This, combined with the dead Internet theory, has

(01:05:28):
me thinking how much of this crap is real? I'm
Alan Ray. This is Sunday Night with Alan Ray. I'll
be back next week, same bat time, same bat place,
Lord willing, we'll talk again soon.

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