September 12, 2025 • 26 mins
Ashley and TJ were set up by best friends after they each experienced divorces: Ashley, was 35, without children, and TJ, was just about to be 40, with a son. Now almost two years later at 37 and 41 - Ashley and TJ chat about their marriage milestones, the tough conversations revolving dating after divorce, divorce involving children, while feeling like they're able to offer other couples hope and light for the future - and proving that true love after all - is still possible. As Ashley and TJ share in this episode - it takes putting in the work, and being completely open, honest, and communicative with each other - no matter how uncomfortable the topic of conversation may be. It's what has strengthened their relationship and what Ashley believes is one of the most important, if not the most important, building block in a successful relationship: successful communication.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of Sunnyside. I'm so excited for
this one because I think there's going to be a
lot of relatability here for people that have either been
divorced in the dating scene. In my case, my scenario
was dating somebody for the first time that had children
when I did not. So yay, we get to talk
to my husband and getting a little deep dive into
our marriage here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So I already mentioned that it's not normal to have
a microphone in your face and you're not in media radio.
This is not natural. So the fact that we've said before,
we've been sitting on the couch in the past and
you're like this should be a podcast, and you've had
that idea. You're like, we should talk about that on
your podcast. So here we are.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think if we're talking about it,
other people were talking about it, right, So yeah, you know,
it's kind of like when you're in school and you
have a question but you're afraid to ask that question
because you don't want to sound silly, but then you
ask someone else be like I had the exact same question.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, But what I think people will learn about you
is that you are not like the social media everyone knows.
That's the highlight reel. We also talk about like the
hard stuff and the things that have gotten us like
this far in our relationship and like conversations we've had
to have because that's been something I've been public about.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, basically, my social media is whatever you share with me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And you just reshare it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I just reshare it. Well, I watched today that that
one that you put. I was like, I don't know
if I should reshare this because kind of sounds like
I'm being conceited.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
No, it was sweet because yeah, when I wasn't feeling well,
TJ clean the entire house and you always cooked dinner,
always cook. That is something I wanted to talk about
on this podcast. But before we even get to all
that fun stuff, this is also fun, but how we met,
like that initial conversation, because you and I have told
the story a million times to friends and family that
(01:50):
have been.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Like, how did your stories?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
How did this even happen? Because everyone was just like
so happy for us finding each other after both of
us going through divorces. So I just kind of want
to wrap that up in a bow and for everyone
to know that we grew up in the same town,
never knew each other, and we're introduced by my best
friend and also her husband who works with you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right, we were both going through life changing events at
the same time. Your best friend's husband was my friend
kind of knew that, you know, I was struggling with it.
He knew that you were struggling with it. They had
been working on I think they had had this hatched
well before we ever got divorced. I mean, I don't
know if they just had like their spidy senses were
tingling that this is going to end in divorce, but yeah,
(02:35):
it was. You know, I came to the station, which
is not something that I don't regularly do. I visited
the firehouses all the time because that's really like my
that's my safe space, really is the firehouse. That's where
I feel the most comfortable. It was him and my
friend Derek, and I was just kind of going through
(02:55):
like the logistics of getting divorce and how it was,
especially with having your child and having to balance the
fact that you're not gonna see them every day, which
is heartbreaking in and of itself. Even now, it's hard
not to have him every single day, you know, he
just well, what do you think about her? And he
showed me your Instagram page and I was like, yeah, man,
(03:15):
let's yeah, I'm ready to go on a d.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He's a menu of options. What do you think about
this one?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? What do you think about b He's like, well,
there's a catch. She's she's not divorced yet. And I
was like, well, Steve, this doesn't help me out. And
that was probably in that was in August. That was
in August because I saw your it was your home Assassin.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Picture, which I was definitely like pretty much separated by then,
Like there was never a legal separation. It was just
like divorce, but pretty much when I had moved over
here for that job, I pretty much had moved over
by myself at that point.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But anyway, kind of to wrap that up and how
you and I met, like the two people that knew
us both pretty well as far as like my best
friends from fourth grade, the guy you work with for
the past ten years, you your story, They're like perfect,
you guys would be great for each other. And you're
both getting divorced in here, and I'm like, can my
(04:08):
papers drive?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And you were a few months behind me, like ahead
of me, I should say.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I was officially divorced in September.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A lot of people were like, oh man, I think
they look at us and like, what a what a
great love story. But I didn't get out of my
divorce thinking the first guy that I met, or even
when a dater's going to take serious would be like
my forever. I thought like, oh my gosh, this is
going to be so hard, Like getting out of a
divorce and having a date again, like that does not
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sound appealing to anyone.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean going on dates post divorce. You know
your question.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You didn't go on any right, it was just me.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Just you did. But I mean there's a I would
say for the most part, and I really I hate
to say this, but you know your usually your first
dates are they're like the sacrificial lambs of you trying
to meet your person. You know, because for the most part,
when you go on your first date post divorce, you're
(05:08):
probably not ready. But it's important to do that. I
would suggest don't tell people this is your first date,
but you know, I think it's it's important to talk
about because if you wait till you're completely ready, you'll
never be ready.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, you need to just rip the band aid off
and go on the d Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And it's uncomfortable for me that, you know, going on
a date. That was the first time in fifteen years,
you know, And I'm like, it was like Ricky Bobby
in taality and nice and like I don't know what
to do with my hands.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You and I there was some level of comfort already
having been set up by friends.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, that was that was definitely comforting. But we'd also
been texting.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I was out of training with Steve and you know,
I guess he was sneaking pictures of me and sending
him to you and Brittany. I was like, listen, man,
like this is great. I appreciate what you're doing, but
why don't you just give me your number and I'll
just take it from here.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It was very playful. It was fun. It was fun
and flirty in the way relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was kind and it wasn't at a left field.
I think you probably had an idea that I would
be texting at some point. Yeah, I shot my shot.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You did, I see, But that's what guys should do,
because you know, I'm so traditional in that thinking. You did,
and we went out and we didn't tell them. We
didn't tell them about our first date.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I still wish I could have been a fly on
the wall in their living room because when we did,
my phone started blowing up yours and we refused to
answer it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so they were like trying to set us up
this entire time, and they're like, when don't you guys
going to go out? Have you guys set a date yet?
And I was like, ah, we're just so busy. And
then our first date, we went to a little place
on the beach and I was like, we should send
them a selfie and just not say anything.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, yeah, we actually talked about that before we went
on our date. We're like, hey, I have an idea
and I was like, oh, I love that idea because
Steve would be like, have you been, you know, talking
with Ash or you know, and I was like maybe
here and there and he was like that's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So then fast forward we meet. First date goes so
well and almost like you're like, whoa, that went really
well so much we were trying to plan the next one.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It was Friday. It was a Friday.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You have a good memory, it was it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Was Friday October twenty seventh. I was like, what then
Sunday we went for that walk on the beach. Yeah,
and that's when I fell in love with you.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
They I love when you say that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I know you do. That's why I'm saying it. I
get so clingy you.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
We'll talk about that too. I'm a stage five clinger,
but only with you, like I never I would hope
so no, but I feel like I was never like
that before. Like you love me the way I want
to be loved, and I think vice versa, like we're
so good for each other's love languages and what we
need out of relationships that you even if you do
get annoyed with it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't show it. I won't know.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
But there were a lot of into how we met
and everything like that, like the fact that we went
to the same high school. We don't need to go
into all those details, but we were not at the
same time at the same high school. I mean, it's
just it was such a small world of all these
different things that came together in these stories of we
were at a gender reveal party, we were at kid's
birthday party, we were at Steven's birthday party. When we
(08:15):
were both in previous relationships, never even remembered each other
knew each other. So now here we are friends introduced us.
We've almost two years been together, which seems crazy because
we got married in May. And then going back to
that Sunday walk on the beach, I feel like this
is a really good segue to you having a son,
(08:36):
because I did put out that episode about being a
bonus parent, and everybody had really good feedback on that,
just like with you know, different things that a lot
of people don't talk about publicly. When you and I
first started dating, we really had to like be very
strategic about, hey, when can we see each other next,
like when there is a child involved. But I feel
like you were so understanding and like you made the
(08:58):
world move to be a to see me and to
be able to make time for me and to make
dates happen with me, which so anyone, I just say
this because I feel like if anyone's listening second.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Date where you know this is an honest podcast, or
I told you about my vasectomy, yeah you know, because
I was like, you know, I feel like I need
to say this now, especially after that walk, because I
was like, I don't want to be like three months
down the road and then I say this, and then
you end it. To be fair, I was like, I
(09:29):
was going to give you all the information that you
needed to make a decision that was best for you
about this relationship, even though it was brand new. I
was like, in my head, I'm like, I'd rather she
just like end it now than end it like after.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I've Yeah, but I think we need to clarify because
when you say that, you make it seem like I
needed to know, as if you didn't want kids or something.
But that was not the case at all, like that
you wanted kids, yeah, but you always wanted more.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I always wanted more, no matter what I told you,
Like listen, I was like, I have a secon me,
I will do anything and everything if you want children
to reverse it, because I wanted kids. That was the plan.
If you would ask me when I was coming out
of college and when I was what my life would
would have looked like. It would have looked like with
me with like three kids.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know, yeah, well it's fine. I mean I told
everyone I thought it'd be a stay at home mom
and three kids. Babe.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now look at you, you're a boss, bitch.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That I don't want to be all the time.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We don't have to be.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But to the fact I say that about you moving mountains,
because that's not a negative thing, Like you moving mountains,
children being involved in a relationship, when you're dating somebody
like there does have to be sacrifices and there has
to be a lot of effort because I know how
much you love being a dad, and that's like one
of the things I love so much about you, because
(10:48):
you are such a family man You've always wanted to be,
you know, like the family unit which we are now
and hopefully we'll have kids of our own together soon.
I think that you having to also make time, Well, let's.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Talk about why we had to make the time. It
was relatively new divorce.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You didn't really need to make time for anyone else
before I came.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Never had to make time for anything. What I needed
to do was to make sure that I protected my
son's emotions. Just for anyone who may be going through
it or thinking about getting divorce and you have kids,
it's not as easy as you go down there and
sign paperwork. You have to take parenting courses, you have
to have a parenting plan, and it's all good things,
(11:31):
and it's really all revolves around what is best for
the child. And one of the things that I actually
took away from it was like an eight hour course
and saw online was that you should really wait about
a full year after the divorce to really introduce them
to someone else, because you need to give them time
to process it. And so we met in October, and
(11:53):
I don't think it was a slow role too, Like
we introduced you to our boy at at a softball game.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, and that was like an easy introduction because again
our friends kids were there to them, I'm aunt ash,
So I was like this fun, friendly face that I
could kind of incorporate myself with, which I get is
in everyone's situation, perfect scenario either, it's like, but that
was easy for me. And we waited. It was it
was like six months.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It was April, and my ex wife had moved out
in May, and so like, really it was when the
divorce is, not when the court approves that the divorce happened,
when his parents separated, And so I did wait basically
a full year of him knowing of him knowing that
mom and dad are separated, they are not getting back together.
(12:43):
Most kids think that they're just going to work it
out and that they're gonna you know, especially in our
situation where it wasn't like a toxic household. There wasn't fighting,
it wasn't a toxic household, It was just a relationship
that had run its course. If I didn't take this
opportunity to talk to your life listeners about who may
be going through something like that, I just want you
guys to know, if you're going through divorce and you
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have kids, they're gonna be fine. They really are. They
are gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
As long as you're civil with each other.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, And but even even that, I think most kids
they are built to endure. They're gonna be fine. They
do need a lot of reassurance and they need a
lot of understanding. But as long as both parents communicate
that this has nothing to do with you. You know,
mommy and daddy, My son was pretty young, he was eight,
(13:31):
you know, So mommy and daddy still love you. Nothing,
nothing's gonna change for you other than you know, mommy
and Daddy aren't gonna be together, but we are. We're
still a team to raise you. And I think that's important.
And I kind of feel like my ex wife and
I have have done a pretty decent job at that.
You know, she communicates well with you, I communicate well
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with with her husband. You know, it takes a village.
It may not be the way that you want it,
but it is the reality. And you as adult need
to be able to be as adaptable as the kids well.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And I think our scenario is honestly probably on one
of the better scenarios the co parenting, you being being
able to be cordial. And I think it depends on
the kid's age, Like I think if he would have
been like thirteen or fourteen, I've heard some stories about
like their teen years.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
They do say that if you're going to get divorced,
do it when they're young. Ever, staying in a relationship
for the kids, I do not advise that because now
I think he's able to see his mom and his
dad be in relationships that best suit them and maybe
and they are better versions of themself for it, and
so they're going to emulate that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
And we know he's in two very loving households and
really like at the end of the day, that's all
that matters. And now he's got tons of family and
cousins on both sides, four sides that love him. But
I think all of this and are the communication that
we've had to have together and the really hard things
that I've had to bring up and talking about me
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navigating being a bonus MA with you, like the conversations
I had to have with you upfront of situations that
were brand new to me that I had never been in.
I'd never dated anybody with a child before. So it's
like a lot of this stuff at work that I
got to go do and you couldn't go. That was
like disappointing for me, which I shared in one of
my first episodes about this is something dating somebody with
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a child. It's not about you. And like I think
I harped for a while in the beginning, like in
my own head that I was never going to be
number one, and that was like really hard for me
to swallow until I think I got past that and
now it's like, Okay, now it's fine, that's not the
scenario at all. That's not the case. It's not that
you're not ever going to be that person's number one.
(15:40):
It's just a different type of it's.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Completely a different type of love.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, yeah, one hundred percent but in the beginning that
can take some getting used to if you've never been
in that scenario and you're wanting to do things with
your person and having But you can get past it if.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You're in the situation that Ashley was in. It's not
that you're not number one. Is that the child can't
take care of themselves, right, so they have to be
number one. Obviouslyeing a therapist also, and she was like,
it's hard because you want to put in this time
to develop this new relationship, but there's guardrails and it
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kind of has to be that way because the kid
has to come number one obviously because they can't take
care of themselves. And that's like the point of parenting.
But it doesn't mean that you aren't number one.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It just but it was a thing. It was a
thing I had to get over. But I talked to
you about it. You did because I was I can't
judge you for it was.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I wasn't like running you down, like, don't make me
feel this way.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not at all. That's what I also want to talk about, though,
is the fact that you and maybe it's because we
both this is both of our second marriage. Can we
call ourselves a marriage experts. Now, yeah, we've been through one.
But the fact that I could come to you where
you were also navigating this all for the very first time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, every day was a new day being divorced.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, but it was a new day dating somebody new.
It was a new day bringing somebody into your child's life.
And like for me to come to you with an
uncomfortable feeling and say, hey, this isn't a make or break,
this isn't changing things, but I do have to tell you,
like it's taking me some time to get used to this.
And you could have easily that probably could have scared
(17:22):
a lot of people off, like WHOA, she don't like
into kids or something, even though you knew and I've
expressed that numerous times, but you were very receptive to
every time I've ever come to you about something that
I'm like trying to process. I say that because I
just hope anyone else it might be going through the
situation or will go in through this situation in the future.
This is part of the communication I talk about with
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you and I and how successful it is because you
heard me out and how I was feeling in those
scenarios and it wasn't like a complaint. It was like, Hey,
this is how I'm feeling. I want you to know
I'm feeling this way. Yeah, so you understand why it
might be in this mood or that mood, or how
can we navigate.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I definitely remember one with the UH when you had
that Sandals trip and you wanted me to go, and
I mean we'd only been dating for a few months
and but it require me going out of the country. Yeah,
and like at that time, I was just not comfortable
leaving the country, you know what I mean, Like I
was just like, I don't know, I just feel like,
(18:23):
what if something happens, you know, I'm not here, and
you know, you get over that, right, Like you're a heightened,
you know, hyper vigilant parent after divorce. I think because
you're overthinking everything. You're thinking, oh, if I do this,
if I don't, if I don't call them, if I
don't do this, you know, I'm gonna cause a lifelong
issue between us. And then at some point you just
(18:47):
just go with it and it all works out. It
really does. It all levels out at some point.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, and that, but I also think like that's not
also to say when I talked about that bonus parent episode,
like your feelings being valid to because that's what somebody
told me, Like, Okay, you're disappointed, and that's normal. That's
normal feeling for you to be disappointed because the person
you love can't go on this trip with you, and
that's okay. But you're gonna have to navigate that scenario.
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So that's just why one of the examples I want
to talk about our communication is we bring it up.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
There's a good chance that if you're dating someone your
age and your late thirties and they're divorced, there's a
good chance that they have kids.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, And my friend Brittany did say that to me,
But I also like, well, she was just setting me
up to date you. She's like, you know a lot
of guys at this age probably gonna have kids. Are
you okay with that? Yeah, it's because she knew she
was gonna set me up with you next. No. But
I mean that goes back to me always wanting kids
and being fine with kids and thinking like that's My
(19:52):
first reaction to that question was always oh yeah, that's
a no big deal, Like I love kids and always
wanted kids. It is I'm not even gonna lie that. Sure,
you can say that all you want, but until you
experience shit. Yeah, Like, sure you can love kids all
you want, that doesn't mean that your emotions aren't going
to bring up feelings that you were not expecting in
the relationship with the person you love, because that's just
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a whole different ball game.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Even I've told you, I think even if you're a
woman who has natural instincts, you have natural instincts of mothering,
there is an adjustment period.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, because it's a different dynamic, right, It's a totally
different dynamic.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I have a stepmother, and you know, I've never really
lived with her or my dad. You know, I always
live with my parents, with with my mom. And by
the time that my mom passed away, and you know,
I was still young enough where I had still lived
with my parents, you know, I was only with them
for a very short amount of time before I went
off to college. It was kind of difficult because I
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was eighteen and I don't want to say set in
my ways, but it was just definitely I was like,
I've never been here before, and it was it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Was awkward, right, Yeah, And it's a different feeling and
dynamic for every role like you as the son, your
dad's son, and the stepmother.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And then yeah, so all three of us are trying
to stepmom exactly. And you know, I just lost my mom,
so like I'm still in the grieving process of that.
So it's like, take that you lose your house, you know,
you lose the place that you've been living for twenty,
you know, eighteen years, and now you're thrust into a
different household. It was not set up for success. Now
(21:28):
I say that I never once had an argument with
my stepmother. I love my stepmother. We never it was
never an issue. There wasn't like I don't feel at
home here, it was it was just different, It really was.
It was different.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, going back to all of this kind of wrapping
it up, because I think this was a good intro
people getting to know us in our journey this far.
Every time I'm like, my husband and I have such
great communication. Know that it's not been like all blue
sky's rainbows and butterflies communication, Like it's been hard conversations too.
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To have that I think has made us like have
such a really strong and trust in bond with each other.
And again, like both of our second marriages, no neither
one of us, or anyone for that matter, goes into
a marriage thinking it's going to fail. So no, like,
you know, but you and I both are like, we
are so meant for each other now. And I think
(22:23):
it's because it's also age. I mean, you're so understanding
with all the things I've come to saying, hey, this
makes me uncomfortable, like I don't know where I am
in this scenario or where I fit in and then
life situations with you, but you being receptive to it
is huge, So like, thanks for thanks for that, because
that could have made our relationship fail if you were like, oh,
(22:44):
god man, she's really having all tough time with this.
I don't know if this is going to work out.
But you were like willing to work on it all
with me.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, I mean it's one you do those things for
the people that you love. Maybe it's because I had
a step parent. You know, I have a step mom.
I know that it she had to do the same things,
and the way that she handled it and ingratiated herself
into my life and was very supportive of me. I'm
sure that there were grown pains in that relationship for
(23:12):
that reason too. And I think she did a really
good job, and I'm you know, I knew eventually it
would all work out. We just stay the course if
it's easy. If it's too easy, I would be weary,
like and that was some of the things is that
you know, we're sitting here having a great conversation, but
like we've had arguments, we've had some we've had fights,
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and that's okay. They don't ever get to like raising
her voices at each other. But I mean there are
things that have been been said that like I don't
agree with that. I don't agree with that, Yeah, and
you just work.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Through it so which I think is funny because.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's okay to fight every now and again.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But to your point that we don't raise our voice
and this is something like even my dad asked me
a matter of weeks ago and he'd be like, have
you I haven't even fought yet. And I don't know
if it sounds crazy to him. Also because different day
and age right where they didn't talk about a lot
their feelings, like therapy was not talked about, stuff like that.
So when my dad's asking like, well, do you guys
even fight, like you know, as if like he's expecting
(24:15):
me to be like, yeah, we had this. I'm always
like yeah, I'm like, before it ever gets to that point,
we're having conversations, Like there has been build up to
heavy conversations that we've had, but there's never been like
a huge blowout where there's gone days that we don't
talk to each other or anything. Because I feel like
we're gonna end it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We're either going to come to an understanding and you
know what, you don't always have at the end. You
don't always have to agree, but you have to understand
I think where the other person is coming from. And
then I guess you've got to make that personal choice.
This is something that I can live with, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm seriously you've decided yes.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, I've decided yes forever. Yeah, and so you I mean,
I know, but my.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Stage five cleanliness is no joke, like before you like,
I was not like this with anybody, but you're so
receptive of it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Usually I know that when you're getting super clingy that
you need it. That's what you need.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I need to be told you love me, and you need.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
To be held all the things. Huh, absolutely, you know,
And that's a very very small task to be asked
as your husband to just humor your cleaniness. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, I love you, I love you more, love you most.
Thanks for being on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Is that the cue for me to go start cooking?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Oh gosh, well, that's gonna have to be another podcast
about how he's an amazing cook and like cooks dinner
every night.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I'm not an amazing cook. I don't know. I listen.
I'm not opening a restaurant or anything. I just know
how to follow a recipe and it's as easy as
what am I going to eat tonight?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And it a google But you actually enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I do enjoy it. Yeah, No, I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
That's the difference between you and I.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, well, I'm sorry. I had a career where I
was cooking for six to ten overly critical men, so
I could take a beat and.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, thanks for cooking.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You're welcome on. I love you, Love you,
Welcome to another episode of Sunnyside. I'm so excited for
this one because I think there's going to be a
lot of relatability here for people that have either been
divorced in the dating scene. In my case, my scenario
was dating somebody for the first time that had children
when I did not. So yay, we get to talk
to my husband and getting a little deep dive into
our marriage here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So I already mentioned that it's not normal to have
a microphone in your face and you're not in media radio.
This is not natural. So the fact that we've said before,
we've been sitting on the couch in the past and
you're like this should be a podcast, and you've had
that idea. You're like, we should talk about that on
your podcast. So here we are.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think if we're talking about it,
other people were talking about it, right, So yeah, you know,
it's kind of like when you're in school and you
have a question but you're afraid to ask that question
because you don't want to sound silly, but then you
ask someone else be like I had the exact same question.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, But what I think people will learn about you
is that you are not like the social media everyone knows.
That's the highlight reel. We also talk about like the
hard stuff and the things that have gotten us like
this far in our relationship and like conversations we've had
to have because that's been something I've been public about.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, basically, my social media is whatever you share with me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And you just reshare it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I just reshare it. Well, I watched today that that
one that you put. I was like, I don't know
if I should reshare this because kind of sounds like
I'm being conceited.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
No, it was sweet because yeah, when I wasn't feeling well,
TJ clean the entire house and you always cooked dinner,
always cook. That is something I wanted to talk about
on this podcast. But before we even get to all
that fun stuff, this is also fun, but how we met,
like that initial conversation, because you and I have told
the story a million times to friends and family that
(01:50):
have been.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Like, how did your stories?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
How did this even happen? Because everyone was just like
so happy for us finding each other after both of
us going through divorces. So I just kind of want
to wrap that up in a bow and for everyone
to know that we grew up in the same town,
never knew each other, and we're introduced by my best
friend and also her husband who works with you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right, we were both going through life changing events at
the same time. Your best friend's husband was my friend
kind of knew that, you know, I was struggling with it.
He knew that you were struggling with it. They had
been working on I think they had had this hatched
well before we ever got divorced. I mean, I don't
know if they just had like their spidy senses were
tingling that this is going to end in divorce, but yeah,
(02:35):
it was. You know, I came to the station, which
is not something that I don't regularly do. I visited
the firehouses all the time because that's really like my
that's my safe space, really is the firehouse. That's where
I feel the most comfortable. It was him and my
friend Derek, and I was just kind of going through
(02:55):
like the logistics of getting divorce and how it was,
especially with having your child and having to balance the
fact that you're not gonna see them every day, which
is heartbreaking in and of itself. Even now, it's hard
not to have him every single day, you know, he
just well, what do you think about her? And he
showed me your Instagram page and I was like, yeah, man,
(03:15):
let's yeah, I'm ready to go on a d.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He's a menu of options. What do you think about
this one?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? What do you think about b He's like, well,
there's a catch. She's she's not divorced yet. And I
was like, well, Steve, this doesn't help me out. And
that was probably in that was in August. That was
in August because I saw your it was your home Assassin.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Picture, which I was definitely like pretty much separated by then,
Like there was never a legal separation. It was just
like divorce, but pretty much when I had moved over
here for that job, I pretty much had moved over
by myself at that point.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But anyway, kind of to wrap that up and how
you and I met, like the two people that knew
us both pretty well as far as like my best
friends from fourth grade, the guy you work with for
the past ten years, you your story, They're like perfect,
you guys would be great for each other. And you're
both getting divorced in here, and I'm like, can my
(04:08):
papers drive?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And you were a few months behind me, like ahead
of me, I should say.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I was officially divorced in September.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A lot of people were like, oh man, I think
they look at us and like, what a what a
great love story. But I didn't get out of my
divorce thinking the first guy that I met, or even
when a dater's going to take serious would be like
my forever. I thought like, oh my gosh, this is
going to be so hard, Like getting out of a
divorce and having a date again, like that does not
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sound appealing to anyone.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean going on dates post divorce. You know
your question.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You didn't go on any right, it was just me.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Just you did. But I mean there's a I would
say for the most part, and I really I hate
to say this, but you know your usually your first
dates are they're like the sacrificial lambs of you trying
to meet your person. You know, because for the most part,
when you go on your first date post divorce, you're
(05:08):
probably not ready. But it's important to do that. I
would suggest don't tell people this is your first date,
but you know, I think it's it's important to talk
about because if you wait till you're completely ready, you'll
never be ready.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, you need to just rip the band aid off
and go on the d Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And it's uncomfortable for me that, you know, going on
a date. That was the first time in fifteen years,
you know, And I'm like, it was like Ricky Bobby
in taality and nice and like I don't know what
to do with my hands.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You and I there was some level of comfort already
having been set up by friends.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, that was that was definitely comforting. But we'd also
been texting.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I was out of training with Steve and you know,
I guess he was sneaking pictures of me and sending
him to you and Brittany. I was like, listen, man,
like this is great. I appreciate what you're doing, but
why don't you just give me your number and I'll
just take it from here.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It was very playful. It was fun. It was fun
and flirty in the way relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was kind and it wasn't at a left field.
I think you probably had an idea that I would
be texting at some point. Yeah, I shot my shot.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You did, I see, But that's what guys should do,
because you know, I'm so traditional in that thinking. You did,
and we went out and we didn't tell them. We
didn't tell them about our first date.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I still wish I could have been a fly on
the wall in their living room because when we did,
my phone started blowing up yours and we refused to
answer it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so they were like trying to set us up
this entire time, and they're like, when don't you guys
going to go out? Have you guys set a date yet?
And I was like, ah, we're just so busy. And
then our first date, we went to a little place
on the beach and I was like, we should send
them a selfie and just not say anything.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, yeah, we actually talked about that before we went
on our date. We're like, hey, I have an idea
and I was like, oh, I love that idea because
Steve would be like, have you been, you know, talking
with Ash or you know, and I was like maybe
here and there and he was like that's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So then fast forward we meet. First date goes so
well and almost like you're like, whoa, that went really
well so much we were trying to plan the next one.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It was Friday. It was a Friday.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You have a good memory, it was it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Was Friday October twenty seventh. I was like, what then
Sunday we went for that walk on the beach. Yeah,
and that's when I fell in love with you.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
They I love when you say that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I know you do. That's why I'm saying it. I
get so clingy you.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
We'll talk about that too. I'm a stage five clinger,
but only with you, like I never I would hope
so no, but I feel like I was never like
that before. Like you love me the way I want
to be loved, and I think vice versa, like we're
so good for each other's love languages and what we
need out of relationships that you even if you do
get annoyed with it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't show it. I won't know.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
But there were a lot of into how we met
and everything like that, like the fact that we went
to the same high school. We don't need to go
into all those details, but we were not at the
same time at the same high school. I mean, it's
just it was such a small world of all these
different things that came together in these stories of we
were at a gender reveal party, we were at kid's
birthday party, we were at Steven's birthday party. When we
(08:15):
were both in previous relationships, never even remembered each other
knew each other. So now here we are friends introduced us.
We've almost two years been together, which seems crazy because
we got married in May. And then going back to
that Sunday walk on the beach, I feel like this
is a really good segue to you having a son,
(08:36):
because I did put out that episode about being a
bonus parent, and everybody had really good feedback on that,
just like with you know, different things that a lot
of people don't talk about publicly. When you and I
first started dating, we really had to like be very
strategic about, hey, when can we see each other next,
like when there is a child involved. But I feel
like you were so understanding and like you made the
(08:58):
world move to be a to see me and to
be able to make time for me and to make
dates happen with me, which so anyone, I just say
this because I feel like if anyone's listening second.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Date where you know this is an honest podcast, or
I told you about my vasectomy, yeah you know, because
I was like, you know, I feel like I need
to say this now, especially after that walk, because I
was like, I don't want to be like three months
down the road and then I say this, and then
you end it. To be fair, I was like, I
(09:29):
was going to give you all the information that you
needed to make a decision that was best for you
about this relationship, even though it was brand new. I
was like, in my head, I'm like, I'd rather she
just like end it now than end it like after.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I've Yeah, but I think we need to clarify because
when you say that, you make it seem like I
needed to know, as if you didn't want kids or something.
But that was not the case at all, like that
you wanted kids, yeah, but you always wanted more.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I always wanted more, no matter what I told you,
Like listen, I was like, I have a secon me,
I will do anything and everything if you want children
to reverse it, because I wanted kids. That was the plan.
If you would ask me when I was coming out
of college and when I was what my life would
would have looked like. It would have looked like with
me with like three kids.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know, yeah, well it's fine. I mean I told
everyone I thought it'd be a stay at home mom
and three kids. Babe.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now look at you, you're a boss, bitch.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That I don't want to be all the time.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We don't have to be.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But to the fact I say that about you moving mountains,
because that's not a negative thing, Like you moving mountains,
children being involved in a relationship, when you're dating somebody
like there does have to be sacrifices and there has
to be a lot of effort because I know how
much you love being a dad, and that's like one
of the things I love so much about you, because
(10:48):
you are such a family man You've always wanted to be,
you know, like the family unit which we are now
and hopefully we'll have kids of our own together soon.
I think that you having to also make time, Well, let's.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Talk about why we had to make the time. It
was relatively new divorce.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You didn't really need to make time for anyone else
before I came.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Never had to make time for anything. What I needed
to do was to make sure that I protected my
son's emotions. Just for anyone who may be going through
it or thinking about getting divorce and you have kids,
it's not as easy as you go down there and
sign paperwork. You have to take parenting courses, you have
to have a parenting plan, and it's all good things,
(11:31):
and it's really all revolves around what is best for
the child. And one of the things that I actually
took away from it was like an eight hour course
and saw online was that you should really wait about
a full year after the divorce to really introduce them
to someone else, because you need to give them time
to process it. And so we met in October, and
(11:53):
I don't think it was a slow role too, Like
we introduced you to our boy at at a softball game.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, and that was like an easy introduction because again
our friends kids were there to them, I'm aunt ash,
So I was like this fun, friendly face that I
could kind of incorporate myself with, which I get is
in everyone's situation, perfect scenario either, it's like, but that
was easy for me. And we waited. It was it
was like six months.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It was April, and my ex wife had moved out
in May, and so like, really it was when the
divorce is, not when the court approves that the divorce happened,
when his parents separated, And so I did wait basically
a full year of him knowing of him knowing that
mom and dad are separated, they are not getting back together.
(12:43):
Most kids think that they're just going to work it
out and that they're gonna you know, especially in our
situation where it wasn't like a toxic household. There wasn't fighting,
it wasn't a toxic household, It was just a relationship
that had run its course. If I didn't take this
opportunity to talk to your life listeners about who may
be going through something like that, I just want you
guys to know, if you're going through divorce and you
(13:04):
have kids, they're gonna be fine. They really are. They
are gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
As long as you're civil with each other.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, And but even even that, I think most kids
they are built to endure. They're gonna be fine. They
do need a lot of reassurance and they need a
lot of understanding. But as long as both parents communicate
that this has nothing to do with you. You know,
mommy and daddy, My son was pretty young, he was eight,
(13:31):
you know, So mommy and daddy still love you. Nothing,
nothing's gonna change for you other than you know, mommy
and Daddy aren't gonna be together, but we are. We're
still a team to raise you. And I think that's important.
And I kind of feel like my ex wife and
I have have done a pretty decent job at that.
You know, she communicates well with you, I communicate well
(13:53):
with with her husband. You know, it takes a village.
It may not be the way that you want it,
but it is the reality. And you as adult need
to be able to be as adaptable as the kids well.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And I think our scenario is honestly probably on one
of the better scenarios the co parenting, you being being
able to be cordial. And I think it depends on
the kid's age, Like I think if he would have
been like thirteen or fourteen, I've heard some stories about
like their teen years.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
They do say that if you're going to get divorced,
do it when they're young. Ever, staying in a relationship
for the kids, I do not advise that because now
I think he's able to see his mom and his
dad be in relationships that best suit them and maybe
and they are better versions of themself for it, and
so they're going to emulate that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
And we know he's in two very loving households and
really like at the end of the day, that's all
that matters. And now he's got tons of family and
cousins on both sides, four sides that love him. But
I think all of this and are the communication that
we've had to have together and the really hard things
that I've had to bring up and talking about me
(14:58):
navigating being a bonus MA with you, like the conversations
I had to have with you upfront of situations that
were brand new to me that I had never been in.
I'd never dated anybody with a child before. So it's
like a lot of this stuff at work that I
got to go do and you couldn't go. That was
like disappointing for me, which I shared in one of
my first episodes about this is something dating somebody with
(15:19):
a child. It's not about you. And like I think
I harped for a while in the beginning, like in
my own head that I was never going to be
number one, and that was like really hard for me
to swallow until I think I got past that and
now it's like, Okay, now it's fine, that's not the
scenario at all. That's not the case. It's not that
you're not ever going to be that person's number one.
(15:40):
It's just a different type of it's.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Completely a different type of love.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, yeah, one hundred percent but in the beginning that
can take some getting used to if you've never been
in that scenario and you're wanting to do things with
your person and having But you can get past it if.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You're in the situation that Ashley was in. It's not
that you're not number one. Is that the child can't
take care of themselves, right, so they have to be
number one. Obviouslyeing a therapist also, and she was like,
it's hard because you want to put in this time
to develop this new relationship, but there's guardrails and it
(16:17):
kind of has to be that way because the kid
has to come number one obviously because they can't take
care of themselves. And that's like the point of parenting.
But it doesn't mean that you aren't number one.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It just but it was a thing. It was a
thing I had to get over. But I talked to
you about it. You did because I was I can't
judge you for it was.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I wasn't like running you down, like, don't make me
feel this way.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not at all. That's what I also want to talk about, though,
is the fact that you and maybe it's because we
both this is both of our second marriage. Can we
call ourselves a marriage experts. Now, yeah, we've been through one.
But the fact that I could come to you where
you were also navigating this all for the very first time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, every day was a new day being divorced.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, but it was a new day dating somebody new.
It was a new day bringing somebody into your child's life.
And like for me to come to you with an
uncomfortable feeling and say, hey, this isn't a make or break,
this isn't changing things, but I do have to tell you,
like it's taking me some time to get used to this.
And you could have easily that probably could have scared
(17:22):
a lot of people off, like WHOA, she don't like
into kids or something, even though you knew and I've
expressed that numerous times, but you were very receptive to
every time I've ever come to you about something that
I'm like trying to process. I say that because I
just hope anyone else it might be going through the
situation or will go in through this situation in the future.
This is part of the communication I talk about with
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you and I and how successful it is because you
heard me out and how I was feeling in those
scenarios and it wasn't like a complaint. It was like, Hey,
this is how I'm feeling. I want you to know
I'm feeling this way. Yeah, so you understand why it
might be in this mood or that mood, or how
can we navigate.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I definitely remember one with the UH when you had
that Sandals trip and you wanted me to go, and
I mean we'd only been dating for a few months
and but it require me going out of the country. Yeah,
and like at that time, I was just not comfortable
leaving the country, you know what I mean, Like I
was just like, I don't know, I just feel like,
(18:23):
what if something happens, you know, I'm not here, and
you know, you get over that, right, Like you're a heightened,
you know, hyper vigilant parent after divorce. I think because
you're overthinking everything. You're thinking, oh, if I do this,
if I don't, if I don't call them, if I
don't do this, you know, I'm gonna cause a lifelong
issue between us. And then at some point you just
(18:47):
just go with it and it all works out. It
really does. It all levels out at some point.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, and that, but I also think like that's not
also to say when I talked about that bonus parent episode,
like your feelings being valid to because that's what somebody
told me, Like, Okay, you're disappointed, and that's normal. That's
normal feeling for you to be disappointed because the person
you love can't go on this trip with you, and
that's okay. But you're gonna have to navigate that scenario.
(19:15):
So that's just why one of the examples I want
to talk about our communication is we bring it up.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
There's a good chance that if you're dating someone your
age and your late thirties and they're divorced, there's a
good chance that they have kids.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, And my friend Brittany did say that to me,
But I also like, well, she was just setting me
up to date you. She's like, you know a lot
of guys at this age probably gonna have kids. Are
you okay with that? Yeah, it's because she knew she
was gonna set me up with you next. No. But
I mean that goes back to me always wanting kids
and being fine with kids and thinking like that's My
(19:52):
first reaction to that question was always oh yeah, that's
a no big deal, Like I love kids and always
wanted kids. It is I'm not even gonna lie that. Sure,
you can say that all you want, but until you
experience shit. Yeah, Like, sure you can love kids all
you want, that doesn't mean that your emotions aren't going
to bring up feelings that you were not expecting in
the relationship with the person you love, because that's just
(20:15):
a whole different ball game.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Even I've told you, I think even if you're a
woman who has natural instincts, you have natural instincts of mothering,
there is an adjustment period.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, because it's a different dynamic, right, It's a totally
different dynamic.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I have a stepmother, and you know, I've never really
lived with her or my dad. You know, I always
live with my parents, with with my mom. And by
the time that my mom passed away, and you know,
I was still young enough where I had still lived
with my parents, you know, I was only with them
for a very short amount of time before I went
off to college. It was kind of difficult because I
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was eighteen and I don't want to say set in
my ways, but it was just definitely I was like,
I've never been here before, and it was it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Was awkward, right, Yeah, And it's a different feeling and
dynamic for every role like you as the son, your
dad's son, and the stepmother.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And then yeah, so all three of us are trying
to stepmom exactly. And you know, I just lost my mom,
so like I'm still in the grieving process of that.
So it's like, take that you lose your house, you know,
you lose the place that you've been living for twenty,
you know, eighteen years, and now you're thrust into a
different household. It was not set up for success. Now
(21:28):
I say that I never once had an argument with
my stepmother. I love my stepmother. We never it was
never an issue. There wasn't like I don't feel at
home here, it was it was just different, It really was.
It was different.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, going back to all of this kind of wrapping
it up, because I think this was a good intro
people getting to know us in our journey this far.
Every time I'm like, my husband and I have such
great communication. Know that it's not been like all blue
sky's rainbows and butterflies communication, Like it's been hard conversations too.
(22:01):
To have that I think has made us like have
such a really strong and trust in bond with each other.
And again, like both of our second marriages, no neither
one of us, or anyone for that matter, goes into
a marriage thinking it's going to fail. So no, like,
you know, but you and I both are like, we
are so meant for each other now. And I think
(22:23):
it's because it's also age. I mean, you're so understanding
with all the things I've come to saying, hey, this
makes me uncomfortable, like I don't know where I am
in this scenario or where I fit in and then
life situations with you, but you being receptive to it
is huge, So like, thanks for thanks for that, because
that could have made our relationship fail if you were like, oh,
(22:44):
god man, she's really having all tough time with this.
I don't know if this is going to work out.
But you were like willing to work on it all
with me.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, I mean it's one you do those things for
the people that you love. Maybe it's because I had
a step parent. You know, I have a step mom.
I know that it she had to do the same things,
and the way that she handled it and ingratiated herself
into my life and was very supportive of me. I'm
sure that there were grown pains in that relationship for
(23:12):
that reason too. And I think she did a really
good job, and I'm you know, I knew eventually it
would all work out. We just stay the course if
it's easy. If it's too easy, I would be weary,
like and that was some of the things is that
you know, we're sitting here having a great conversation, but
like we've had arguments, we've had some we've had fights,
(23:36):
and that's okay. They don't ever get to like raising
her voices at each other. But I mean there are
things that have been been said that like I don't
agree with that. I don't agree with that, Yeah, and
you just work.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Through it so which I think is funny because.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's okay to fight every now and again.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But to your point that we don't raise our voice
and this is something like even my dad asked me
a matter of weeks ago and he'd be like, have
you I haven't even fought yet. And I don't know
if it sounds crazy to him. Also because different day
and age right where they didn't talk about a lot
their feelings, like therapy was not talked about, stuff like that.
So when my dad's asking like, well, do you guys
even fight, like you know, as if like he's expecting
(24:15):
me to be like, yeah, we had this. I'm always
like yeah, I'm like, before it ever gets to that point,
we're having conversations, Like there has been build up to
heavy conversations that we've had, but there's never been like
a huge blowout where there's gone days that we don't
talk to each other or anything. Because I feel like
we're gonna end it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We're either going to come to an understanding and you
know what, you don't always have at the end. You
don't always have to agree, but you have to understand
I think where the other person is coming from. And
then I guess you've got to make that personal choice.
This is something that I can live with, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm seriously you've decided yes.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, I've decided yes forever. Yeah, and so you I mean,
I know, but my.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Stage five cleanliness is no joke, like before you like,
I was not like this with anybody, but you're so
receptive of it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Usually I know that when you're getting super clingy that
you need it. That's what you need.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I need to be told you love me, and you need.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
To be held all the things. Huh, absolutely, you know,
And that's a very very small task to be asked
as your husband to just humor your cleaniness. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, I love you, I love you more, love you most.
Thanks for being on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Is that the cue for me to go start cooking?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Oh gosh, well, that's gonna have to be another podcast
about how he's an amazing cook and like cooks dinner
every night.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I'm not an amazing cook. I don't know. I listen.
I'm not opening a restaurant or anything. I just know
how to follow a recipe and it's as easy as
what am I going to eat tonight?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And it a google But you actually enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I do enjoy it. Yeah, No, I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
That's the difference between you and I.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, well, I'm sorry. I had a career where I
was cooking for six to ten overly critical men, so
I could take a beat and.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, thanks for cooking.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You're welcome on. I love you, Love you,
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