August 8, 2025 • 17 mins
Spoiler alert: Ashley thought she'd be a stay-at-home-mom. Hear how her path changed, and how she's shifted to owning where life is right now. She shares important career bulilding blocks she's gained from personal experience to help you navigate and build your own professional confidence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Sunnyside. It's Ashley first episode. We really
dove into where I am now professionally personally. This episode,
we're really going to get into job and career stuff
and a lot of it comes down to that confidence
that I talked about that I kind of just had
that pivoting moment.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
When I feel like I found mine.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I was like, wait a minute, I can do this job,
and I am the approached for this for a reason,
and a lot of us find ourselves in that position
or maybe you're somewhere right now where you feel a
little bit stagnant, bored, wanting your next challenge, and the
boundaries and the restrictions that a lot of times we
put on ourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We are so bad, especially as women.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'll talk about this leadership group I was in and
it was a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm not joking.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It was probably over ten years ago, and I was
grateful to just even have this opportunity. It was my
former company and it was specifically a leadership group for
women in programming in radio, And looking back now, I
can see how that opportunity, how other opportunities really help
me gain my confidence. So I always like to pass
this along because believe it or not, Yes, I even
(01:07):
find myself among other men and women who are points
at points in their careers where they don't have that confidence.
And if I can pass off any information to try
and help change the mindset or to help build someone
else's confidence, I am all about it because I feel
lucky that I have found mine, because I can feel, like,
(01:27):
what a difference to go into my job every day
and have the confidence that I'm gonna do everything I
possibly can to make sure I'm killing it. Like, if
you don't have that mentality because you want to go
to work and you want to kill it, then you're
probably not in the right line of work. First of all,
if you're not passionate about what you're doing, that makes
go into your.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Job even harder.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And I know it's super cliche because I feel like
growing up, or like at least getting out of college
and graduating, you know, they always say.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh, if you find a job you love, you'll never
work a day in your life.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, easier said than done, right, But going back to that,
I mean, I kind of fell into radio. I did
a college internship and then another one thing led to another.
I had no idea what I wanted to do, So
finding something you enjoy doing. I feel like nowadays there
is so much more freedoms than twenty years ago when
(02:15):
people were working. I remember having a conversation with my
mom just a few weeks ago, and I was telling
her how thankful I was that, you know, I've got
some flexibility in my job that my boss is understanding
that when my dad was sick, I was able to
be there and at the hospital and help my mom
and help my dad, and he knew I was still
(02:36):
going to get my work done.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, yeah, twenty years ago, my Mom's like, are you kidding?
They'd be waiting at.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
My desk waiting for me to sit down. You know,
maybe this was twenty five thirty years ago, but wait
making sure I'm on time. So the difference in the
day and age has totally changed all of that to say,
I'm going to go back to the leadership and mentorship programs.
Anything you can insert yourself in. You do have to
own and make some ownership of your career. Here is
(03:02):
the one thing that drives me nuts. People who want
to be doing more, think they should be doing more,
but they're not putting in the work to get there.
I can't tell you how many organizations, meetings, networking events
I've tried to insert myself in to make sure I'm
around people that are helping Migro making connections.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And I'm not gonna lie. Yes, some of this stuff
has cost.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Money, and no I'm not rich. I'm not what you
would describe as rich. I don't have a ton of money,
just leisurely hanging around. We like to be very smart
with our money, my husband and I I thank him
for that. But if you can insert yourself in rooms
and start asking questions, even with your own colleagues.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
For example, I am in programming in radio.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But I have basically tried to pick the brain of
our vice president of sales, our sales team.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
This se how they do business.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Because we work hand in hand with my product, my
brand at work and how they sell it and all
the different products our company offers across the board. I
like to learn more about that. So I'm like, hey,
can I sit in on this meeting? I just want
to be on the fly, a fly on the wall.
So that is one piece of advice as far as career,
in search yourself in rooms, network, don't be afraid to ask,
(04:24):
like be persistent. This is another thing that I was
telling a lot of the young women at the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
She is football summit.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I remember when I was just part time in Orlando
and I was on air and it was a part
time shift, and I really wanted full time, like part
time hours.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
The pay is terrible, and you know everybody wants to
be full time.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So I would send the program director, then the boss.
Then I would send them emails that week of my
digital performance. And this is when like blog posts and
website views were a big thing, and I'd be like,
these are all the blogs I created. These were all
the views I created this week. This blog had the
(05:05):
most views this week on the radio station page.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's the one I created. Like, you have to be
your own cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And there's a difference between ego, you know, with grace
and not cockiness, and that is a big thing. Like
you have got to own and be your own cheerleader.
Sell yourself. No one's going to do it for you.
Back when I was on a morning show ten plus
years ago, I went this route where I had to
(05:31):
get an agent because I got myself in the situation
where I was going to leave for a job in Chicago,
and I got terrified because my previous company was like, no,
you're not going anywhere. You're under contract and this is
the deal. Well, I was so naive and I had
no idea. So I got an agent, had to pay
the agent, And one of the things the agent told
me is like, no one else is going to go
(05:53):
in a room for you and fight for you more
than you are going to fight for you. So that's
another piece of advice always stuck with me. When it
comes to negotiations or what you want.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's the other thing too.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like in the first episode, I briefly touched on relationships
and how oh we get married and we always think
our significant other knows our wants and needs at that point. Well,
the same thing goes for your job and your career
and your boss and hopefully whatever job that is that
you do have some type of level of communication with
(06:26):
a boss to kind of have that open conversation. I
know it's not the same in every industry. I should
have prefaced this saying, I know the radio and media
industry can be a little bit more lax than some industry,
so I understand that, but if you can still have
a level of communication with a boss or manager. That's
a healthy level where you can have open conversations and
(06:49):
if something's not going well at work, or you're wanting
to do more, or you're platesful, that you can have
that conversation because that's so important. And if it's a
good boss, they're going to hear you out, you know,
So don't be afraid to have those conversations at work either.
But the persistency is key if there's anything for you
(07:09):
know this day and age, think about all the resources
people have to find people for a job, whether it's LinkedIn,
whether it's word of mouth, networking, whether they're hiring internally, Like,
you've got to do all you possibly can to stick
out for that position. So networking, I mean, get out there.
(07:30):
You got to be persistent, put yourself out there, send
the emails, shoot send the Instagram message. Again, I know
my industry is a little bit lax, but I'm not
even kidding. That is part of how I got this
job here in Tampa. Was a colleague of mine that
was much higher up, been in the industry for years
and years and years, someone who I looked up to
(07:51):
still look up to as an incredible career career reach
out to me on Instagram, very coyly and was kind
of like, hey, so you know, how are things going,
and you know, what do you think in career wise?
It It was kind of a general statement like that,
and that's how that whole conversation started. With this job
that I'm in now, and I was like, wait, why
(08:13):
there is there an opportunity coming up you think I
might be interested in?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And that's all it took. It's those little things.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But guess what if I hadn't networked and I hadn't
kind of raised my hand in rooms and spoke in
my mind and opinions that were, you know, we're validated.
I think that's the other thing too this day and age.
You know, I think maybe the younger generations now have
gotten a little bit better about their confidence in owning it.
(08:42):
And it's almost this probably thirty five to forty five
year old range that women are still trying to find
it because I feel like this generation now has been
taught to own it, like.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You go after it, go after your dreams. You know.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I come from the world where my mom was a
stay at home mom for most of our childhood. She
did go back to work a few times here and there,
but she was at home. And I'm gonna switch gears
here over to career, from career.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
To home life, family life, kids.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Do I want them where I thought i'd be, because
you could probably relate to this the generation back of.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Us growing up or me, I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I thought I was going to be twenty four married
with multiple kids by the time I was twenty four
years old. Yeah, uh didn't happen, you know. And my
husband knows this too, Like I always wanted kids. I
thought I was probably going to be a stay at
home mom too, you know, real shocker. Could my life
have gone completely more opposite than that. So I am
(09:51):
being open and honest about all of this because I
do feel like sometimes maybe you listening right now have
been following me for some time, and maybe it seems like, oh,
things have just fallen in.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Place for her, Like, No, I didn't want to be
a career woman. I mean, don't get me wrong. I
am grateful and I have worked hard.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I have, you know, done ten years of an alarm
clock as early as three thirty in the morning every
single day for a morning show to four thirty in
the morning and working all day, working weekends, working nights
on top of it. So I will own that and saying, hey,
I've put the work in, but I didn't think I
was gonna be a career woman by any means that
(10:30):
for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm like, I'm gonna have a family. I'm gonna have
a cute little house. Let me a stay at home ma.
I say it in that voice, come like, oh, how cute?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
How cute? Did I think I was? That That's how
my life was gonna be. And if that's your life,
I have.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
A little bit of jealousy. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And you may look at my life and think all
the cool things I get to do with work or
my travels is a dream life. And that is where
I always feel like I tell people like, and I'll
have some friends that will say something about like, oh,
you're in such good shape or whatever, and I'm like,
and I remind them, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Like, you've had two children, Like, give yourself a break.
You just had a baby.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Not that long ago. You gave birth to a human.
My body's not been there yet. Like I'm trying to
always remind my friends or just anyone in general, like
have a little grace with yourself when it comes to
that stuff. We're in two totally different boats. And again
grass is always greener. And as far as kids go,
(11:26):
we are trying. I've always wanted kids, always, always, always,
I've always wanted kids. Been so close with my nieces
and nephews over the years, they have been like my world,
the closest thing I've ever been to a parent, you know,
all those years, until of course, becoming a bonus mom
this year. But that is a totally different dynamic and
that will be another episode for sure. But as far
(11:47):
as having career and kids and can can you have
it all? I mean I have friends that do it.
It's not easy, but.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
They do it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And speaking of one of those women and leadership programs
I remember and this stuck with me. It was a
take on that whole work life balance phrase and like,
throw that phrase out the window, because balance makes you think, oh,
it's got to be fifty to fifty. And it was
positioned to work life integration, and I thought that was great.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I was like, that's a really good way to look
at it. It's how you make it work for yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's how you integrate your work your life, everything you're
needing to do to get life done, whether you are
a mom, a dad, a parent, maybe you're a dink,
maybe your dual income, no kids, you and your hobby,
you and your significant other, or maybe you're single. I
get a lot of messages still about now that I've
(12:41):
married my husband, saying, man, I'm still holding out. I'm
still waiting it'll come in the right time. And that's
how I feel about us trying too, And I'm like,
you know, it's in God's hands when it's meant to happen, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Going to happen for us. I'm manifesting it. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
My husband wanted more kids too, so we are trying
without stressing, trying not to stress about it, but going
back to work life balance with that, you know, I
can only imagine it's not easy. I And nowadays it's
so common to have working moms, like it's more rare
to have a stay at home mom because things are
(13:19):
so expensive and a lot of times our generation did
come out of school and had jobs or internships things
that they've grown into and you had a career. You know,
there went my whole dream of being a stay at
home mom.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh, my husband's gonna kill me. He knows I joke
about this, but I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
There is a little bit of bitterness to that, you know,
where I'm like, for sure thought i'd be, you know,
staying at home on the pta by now, but hey,
God had other plans for me, and that that's for sure.
And that's kind of why I try and totally take
ownership of this, even the podcast, because I feel like
I do have this connection and this ability to connect
(14:02):
with people and to feel I'm the biggest feeler when
it comes to emotions, when it comes to intuition, reading people,
being in touch with my emotions sharing them. So that's
one of those things where I'm like, you know what, Okay,
Well that isn't how my life went. It did go
(14:23):
a really interesting direction I never saw comin. But I'm
going to now own this until it is time for
me to also be a mom. Those are just a
couple of things with the career stuff I wanted to
share because that's been the biggest thing with finding the confidence.
And one last thing I want to leave you with
and I put this on social media this week because
(14:44):
this also is a huge eye opener for me and
the president of my former company who's since retired.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
She was incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She is incredible, was my biggest cheerleader too, even coming
to this next company, which she then also eventually worked for,
but she is now retired. I remember her talking to
us in a leadership meeting that we were in and
how there was actual research done that men would look
at job applications and the requirements like you know when
(15:14):
you're looking at something and it shows different bullet points
of the requirements of the job what they would like
you to know how to do or have experience doing,
and it'll say, oh, wanted experience five to seven years
in this or three to five years experience with this. Well, typically,
this research showed that men would typically read those and say, eh, okay,
(15:39):
there's two or three bullet points in there. I don't
really know. I don't have that experience, but you know what,
I'll figure it out. On the other hand, women would
do that and as soon as they came across like
the first bullet point of something that they did not
have their requirements for, they'd count themselves out like, oh,
I don't know how to do that, I don't have
the experience in that forget it no chance. And that's
(16:03):
the difference between having the confidence and knowing you can
do it and if not, that you're going to figure
it out. That's what I have figured it out, and
I do. I don't necessarily love the expression fake it
till you make it, because I don't think you should
like lie and be deceitful. However, if you are fully
(16:24):
capable of that job and you know how to do
most of the things, you're never going to know everything.
I still don't know everything. We all don't know everything
about our jobs. I mean, yes, we're the experts and
probably what we do, but there's always something to learn
and be better at, and things changing. Industry is changing,
and then you're having to adapt to So as long
as you have the mindset and the mentality that you
(16:46):
are going to kill it and you're going to do
all you can to keep up with your job, to
put out the best work to stay competitive, then you
have to go for it. But you got to have
that confidence first and be like, you know what, Okay,
that bullet point might not be something I have experience with,
but could I is that something I can pick up?
(17:06):
I should apply anyways and see how the interview goes.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Just do it. Just go for it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Don't let that one or even two or three bullet
point stop you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
If you've got the mentality that you're gonna put in
all the effort it takes to succeed, then you can't fail.
And don't let you be the reason that's holding you back.
We do it to ourselves probably daily in some way,
shape or form, professionally in our personal lives.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
We got to stop that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Have the confidence you got this It's Sunnyside with Ashley
Welcome back to Sunnyside. It's Ashley first episode. We really
dove into where I am now professionally personally. This episode,
we're really going to get into job and career stuff
and a lot of it comes down to that confidence
that I talked about that I kind of just had
that pivoting moment.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
When I feel like I found mine.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I was like, wait a minute, I can do this job,
and I am the approached for this for a reason,
and a lot of us find ourselves in that position
or maybe you're somewhere right now where you feel a
little bit stagnant, bored, wanting your next challenge, and the
boundaries and the restrictions that a lot of times we
put on ourselves.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We are so bad, especially as women.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'll talk about this leadership group I was in and
it was a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm not joking.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It was probably over ten years ago, and I was
grateful to just even have this opportunity. It was my
former company and it was specifically a leadership group for
women in programming in radio, And looking back now, I
can see how that opportunity, how other opportunities really help
me gain my confidence. So I always like to pass
this along because believe it or not, Yes, I even
(01:07):
find myself among other men and women who are points
at points in their careers where they don't have that confidence.
And if I can pass off any information to try
and help change the mindset or to help build someone
else's confidence, I am all about it because I feel
lucky that I have found mine, because I can feel, like,
(01:27):
what a difference to go into my job every day
and have the confidence that I'm gonna do everything I
possibly can to make sure I'm killing it. Like, if
you don't have that mentality because you want to go
to work and you want to kill it, then you're
probably not in the right line of work. First of all,
if you're not passionate about what you're doing, that makes
go into your.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Job even harder.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And I know it's super cliche because I feel like
growing up, or like at least getting out of college
and graduating, you know, they always say.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh, if you find a job you love, you'll never
work a day in your life.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, easier said than done, right, But going back to that,
I mean, I kind of fell into radio. I did
a college internship and then another one thing led to another.
I had no idea what I wanted to do, So
finding something you enjoy doing. I feel like nowadays there
is so much more freedoms than twenty years ago when
(02:15):
people were working. I remember having a conversation with my
mom just a few weeks ago, and I was telling
her how thankful I was that, you know, I've got
some flexibility in my job that my boss is understanding
that when my dad was sick, I was able to
be there and at the hospital and help my mom
and help my dad, and he knew I was still
(02:36):
going to get my work done.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, yeah, twenty years ago, my Mom's like, are you kidding?
They'd be waiting at.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
My desk waiting for me to sit down. You know,
maybe this was twenty five thirty years ago, but wait
making sure I'm on time. So the difference in the
day and age has totally changed all of that to say,
I'm going to go back to the leadership and mentorship programs.
Anything you can insert yourself in. You do have to
own and make some ownership of your career. Here is
(03:02):
the one thing that drives me nuts. People who want
to be doing more, think they should be doing more,
but they're not putting in the work to get there.
I can't tell you how many organizations, meetings, networking events
I've tried to insert myself in to make sure I'm
around people that are helping Migro making connections.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And I'm not gonna lie. Yes, some of this stuff
has cost.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Money, and no I'm not rich. I'm not what you
would describe as rich. I don't have a ton of money,
just leisurely hanging around. We like to be very smart
with our money, my husband and I I thank him
for that. But if you can insert yourself in rooms
and start asking questions, even with your own colleagues.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
For example, I am in programming in radio.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But I have basically tried to pick the brain of
our vice president of sales, our sales team.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
This se how they do business.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Because we work hand in hand with my product, my
brand at work and how they sell it and all
the different products our company offers across the board. I
like to learn more about that. So I'm like, hey,
can I sit in on this meeting? I just want
to be on the fly, a fly on the wall.
So that is one piece of advice as far as career,
in search yourself in rooms, network, don't be afraid to ask,
(04:24):
like be persistent. This is another thing that I was
telling a lot of the young women at the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
She is football summit.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I remember when I was just part time in Orlando
and I was on air and it was a part
time shift, and I really wanted full time, like part
time hours.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
The pay is terrible, and you know everybody wants to
be full time.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So I would send the program director, then the boss.
Then I would send them emails that week of my
digital performance. And this is when like blog posts and
website views were a big thing, and I'd be like,
these are all the blogs I created. These were all
the views I created this week. This blog had the
(05:05):
most views this week on the radio station page.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's the one I created. Like, you have to be
your own cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And there's a difference between ego, you know, with grace
and not cockiness, and that is a big thing. Like
you have got to own and be your own cheerleader.
Sell yourself. No one's going to do it for you.
Back when I was on a morning show ten plus
years ago, I went this route where I had to
(05:31):
get an agent because I got myself in the situation
where I was going to leave for a job in Chicago,
and I got terrified because my previous company was like, no,
you're not going anywhere. You're under contract and this is
the deal. Well, I was so naive and I had
no idea. So I got an agent, had to pay
the agent, And one of the things the agent told
me is like, no one else is going to go
(05:53):
in a room for you and fight for you more
than you are going to fight for you. So that's
another piece of advice always stuck with me. When it
comes to negotiations or what you want.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's the other thing too.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like in the first episode, I briefly touched on relationships
and how oh we get married and we always think
our significant other knows our wants and needs at that point. Well,
the same thing goes for your job and your career
and your boss and hopefully whatever job that is that
you do have some type of level of communication with
(06:26):
a boss to kind of have that open conversation. I
know it's not the same in every industry. I should
have prefaced this saying, I know the radio and media
industry can be a little bit more lax than some industry,
so I understand that, but if you can still have
a level of communication with a boss or manager. That's
a healthy level where you can have open conversations and
(06:49):
if something's not going well at work, or you're wanting
to do more, or you're platesful, that you can have
that conversation because that's so important. And if it's a
good boss, they're going to hear you out, you know,
So don't be afraid to have those conversations at work either.
But the persistency is key if there's anything for you
(07:09):
know this day and age, think about all the resources
people have to find people for a job, whether it's LinkedIn,
whether it's word of mouth, networking, whether they're hiring internally, Like,
you've got to do all you possibly can to stick
out for that position. So networking, I mean, get out there.
(07:30):
You got to be persistent, put yourself out there, send
the emails, shoot send the Instagram message. Again, I know
my industry is a little bit lax, but I'm not
even kidding. That is part of how I got this
job here in Tampa. Was a colleague of mine that
was much higher up, been in the industry for years
and years and years, someone who I looked up to
(07:51):
still look up to as an incredible career career reach
out to me on Instagram, very coyly and was kind
of like, hey, so you know, how are things going,
and you know, what do you think in career wise?
It It was kind of a general statement like that,
and that's how that whole conversation started. With this job
that I'm in now, and I was like, wait, why
(08:13):
there is there an opportunity coming up you think I
might be interested in?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And that's all it took. It's those little things.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But guess what if I hadn't networked and I hadn't
kind of raised my hand in rooms and spoke in
my mind and opinions that were, you know, we're validated.
I think that's the other thing too this day and age.
You know, I think maybe the younger generations now have
gotten a little bit better about their confidence in owning it.
(08:42):
And it's almost this probably thirty five to forty five
year old range that women are still trying to find
it because I feel like this generation now has been
taught to own it, like.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You go after it, go after your dreams. You know.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I come from the world where my mom was a
stay at home mom for most of our childhood. She
did go back to work a few times here and there,
but she was at home. And I'm gonna switch gears
here over to career, from career.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
To home life, family life, kids.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Do I want them where I thought i'd be, because
you could probably relate to this the generation back of.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Us growing up or me, I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I thought I was going to be twenty four married
with multiple kids by the time I was twenty four
years old. Yeah, uh didn't happen, you know. And my
husband knows this too, Like I always wanted kids. I
thought I was probably going to be a stay at
home mom too, you know, real shocker. Could my life
have gone completely more opposite than that. So I am
(09:51):
being open and honest about all of this because I
do feel like sometimes maybe you listening right now have
been following me for some time, and maybe it seems like, oh,
things have just fallen in.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Place for her, Like, No, I didn't want to be
a career woman. I mean, don't get me wrong. I
am grateful and I have worked hard.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I have, you know, done ten years of an alarm
clock as early as three thirty in the morning every
single day for a morning show to four thirty in
the morning and working all day, working weekends, working nights
on top of it. So I will own that and saying, hey,
I've put the work in, but I didn't think I
was gonna be a career woman by any means that
(10:30):
for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm like, I'm gonna have a family. I'm gonna have
a cute little house. Let me a stay at home ma.
I say it in that voice, come like, oh, how cute?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
How cute? Did I think I was? That That's how
my life was gonna be. And if that's your life,
I have.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
A little bit of jealousy. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And you may look at my life and think all
the cool things I get to do with work or
my travels is a dream life. And that is where
I always feel like I tell people like, and I'll
have some friends that will say something about like, oh,
you're in such good shape or whatever, and I'm like,
and I remind them, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Like, you've had two children, Like, give yourself a break.
You just had a baby.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Not that long ago. You gave birth to a human.
My body's not been there yet. Like I'm trying to
always remind my friends or just anyone in general, like
have a little grace with yourself when it comes to
that stuff. We're in two totally different boats. And again
grass is always greener. And as far as kids go,
(11:26):
we are trying. I've always wanted kids, always, always, always,
I've always wanted kids. Been so close with my nieces
and nephews over the years, they have been like my world,
the closest thing I've ever been to a parent, you know,
all those years, until of course, becoming a bonus mom
this year. But that is a totally different dynamic and
that will be another episode for sure. But as far
(11:47):
as having career and kids and can can you have
it all? I mean I have friends that do it.
It's not easy, but.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
They do it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And speaking of one of those women and leadership programs
I remember and this stuck with me. It was a
take on that whole work life balance phrase and like,
throw that phrase out the window, because balance makes you think, oh,
it's got to be fifty to fifty. And it was
positioned to work life integration, and I thought that was great.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I was like, that's a really good way to look
at it. It's how you make it work for yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's how you integrate your work your life, everything you're
needing to do to get life done, whether you are
a mom, a dad, a parent, maybe you're a dink,
maybe your dual income, no kids, you and your hobby,
you and your significant other, or maybe you're single. I
get a lot of messages still about now that I've
(12:41):
married my husband, saying, man, I'm still holding out. I'm
still waiting it'll come in the right time. And that's
how I feel about us trying too, And I'm like,
you know, it's in God's hands when it's meant to happen, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Going to happen for us. I'm manifesting it. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
My husband wanted more kids too, so we are trying
without stressing, trying not to stress about it, but going
back to work life balance with that, you know, I
can only imagine it's not easy. I And nowadays it's
so common to have working moms, like it's more rare
to have a stay at home mom because things are
(13:19):
so expensive and a lot of times our generation did
come out of school and had jobs or internships things
that they've grown into and you had a career. You know,
there went my whole dream of being a stay at
home mom.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh, my husband's gonna kill me. He knows I joke
about this, but I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
There is a little bit of bitterness to that, you know,
where I'm like, for sure thought i'd be, you know,
staying at home on the pta by now, but hey,
God had other plans for me, and that that's for sure.
And that's kind of why I try and totally take
ownership of this, even the podcast, because I feel like
I do have this connection and this ability to connect
(14:02):
with people and to feel I'm the biggest feeler when
it comes to emotions, when it comes to intuition, reading people,
being in touch with my emotions sharing them. So that's
one of those things where I'm like, you know what, Okay,
Well that isn't how my life went. It did go
(14:23):
a really interesting direction I never saw comin. But I'm
going to now own this until it is time for
me to also be a mom. Those are just a
couple of things with the career stuff I wanted to
share because that's been the biggest thing with finding the confidence.
And one last thing I want to leave you with
and I put this on social media this week because
(14:44):
this also is a huge eye opener for me and
the president of my former company who's since retired.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
She was incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She is incredible, was my biggest cheerleader too, even coming
to this next company, which she then also eventually worked for,
but she is now retired. I remember her talking to
us in a leadership meeting that we were in and
how there was actual research done that men would look
at job applications and the requirements like you know when
(15:14):
you're looking at something and it shows different bullet points
of the requirements of the job what they would like
you to know how to do or have experience doing,
and it'll say, oh, wanted experience five to seven years
in this or three to five years experience with this. Well, typically,
this research showed that men would typically read those and say, eh, okay,
(15:39):
there's two or three bullet points in there. I don't
really know. I don't have that experience, but you know what,
I'll figure it out. On the other hand, women would
do that and as soon as they came across like
the first bullet point of something that they did not
have their requirements for, they'd count themselves out like, oh,
I don't know how to do that, I don't have
the experience in that forget it no chance. And that's
(16:03):
the difference between having the confidence and knowing you can
do it and if not, that you're going to figure
it out. That's what I have figured it out, and
I do. I don't necessarily love the expression fake it
till you make it, because I don't think you should
like lie and be deceitful. However, if you are fully
(16:24):
capable of that job and you know how to do
most of the things, you're never going to know everything.
I still don't know everything. We all don't know everything
about our jobs. I mean, yes, we're the experts and
probably what we do, but there's always something to learn
and be better at, and things changing. Industry is changing,
and then you're having to adapt to So as long
as you have the mindset and the mentality that you
(16:46):
are going to kill it and you're going to do
all you can to keep up with your job, to
put out the best work to stay competitive, then you
have to go for it. But you got to have
that confidence first and be like, you know what, Okay,
that bullet point might not be something I have experience with,
but could I is that something I can pick up?
(17:06):
I should apply anyways and see how the interview goes.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Just do it. Just go for it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Don't let that one or even two or three bullet
point stop you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
If you've got the mentality that you're gonna put in
all the effort it takes to succeed, then you can't fail.
And don't let you be the reason that's holding you back.
We do it to ourselves probably daily in some way,
shape or form, professionally in our personal lives.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
We got to stop that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Have the confidence you got this It's Sunnyside with Ashley
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