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July 16, 2025 • 59 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
I jes.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Are you ready? No, I said, oh you hey? What
is up? Everyone?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
One? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
This is welcome to the latest episode to plead the Sith.
I am your host, elijahs you know, the Sith Lord himself,
the doctor of Style. That's what Rudy calls me. I
don't really think I could dress that well, but you know,
it is what it is. We take our nicknames as
they're given. If y'all want to give you another one,
drop them in the chat. Our chat sponsor. It's powered
by our sponsor, MCS Journal Contracting. Shout out my boy

(01:27):
Chris leiha Us Away's great. I hope y'all already. You
have a very controversial guest on the show today. You
know that's my boy from another network, the other half
of the Area two one to zero podcast. Y'all know
him as Skip. Here's the the myth, the legend, the mouth.
It's one mouth, motherfucker, and I'm glad to have him

(01:47):
on my side. Come on to the stage, Mikey menace.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
What's going on? My man? Glad to be on Brother
and I show. This is your show. I'm just here
to be a passer and whatever you want to ask,
go ahead. And ask. You know, he meant as after dark,
let's make this happen.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
So yeah, brother, to get it going, we have shout
out everyone in the room right now, currently it looks
like we have hefe in the mix. Chris Leha, y'all
want to ask Mike anything, y'all go ahead and drop
the comments in there and we'll we'll, we'll, we'll get
to them. So, Mike, are you ready?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let's do this baby.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
As you know, we had, we had the other half
of Area two and zero podcasts in the mix. Joe
got to see you kind of got him into a
little bit of trouble. Mike. I know you might not
see it that way. I want to get your take
on the whole censorship situation. I was like, my is
my father, Mike, you know my dad, because you sunned
me just like you did Sohan and Kelvin and you

(02:50):
know all the mother motherfuckers. Bro. Give me give me
your view on or your insight on that whole situation.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay. I didn't think it was censorship at all. Okay,
because I think that that's being framed in a different
way because people can have their own platforms to do
whatever they want to do. This is your show, so
you guide this particular show the way that you want
it to be. And the show that Joe and I
have is our show. It's not any more his than mine.
It's not any more mind than his. But the fact

(03:19):
of the matter is is that I was talking to
people about the show. And it's funny because you know,
we have people who are on this stream right now,
which is powered by mcschannel contracting, and they listen to
the show that Joe and I do, And you would
think that they're the only people who listen, right because
you see the same fifteen to twenty thirty names on

(03:42):
the chat. But there's a silent majority of those who
don't do that because they're at work, or they are
in the car, or they're at home working, or whatever
the case may be. And those people have been reaching
out to me whenever I see them, or they DM
me or they whatever, and they come up to me
and they say, hey, man, I stopped listening to the
show because it got a little too racy for us.

(04:03):
I didn't like this, I didn't like that. So basically
I wasn't trying to censor. I was trying to bring
back listeners who had fallen off and to prove that
this is actually working. Elias. Nine of the last fifteen
or nine of the fifteen most watched shows that Joe
and I've ever done last six weeks. Think about that,

(04:24):
We've done four hundred shows. Almost nine of the fifteen
most viewed shows were in the last six weeks. So
there's proof in the fact that you know, you have
to make it a marriage between your own personality and
also what the people want as well, and I'm trying
to kind of walk that fine line between the two.
And I wasn't trying to sun you man, And I

(04:47):
apologize to you and to Chris if it came off
that way. That's not what I was trying to do
as a man. What I should have done is brought
you off to the side and talked with you one
on one. But I did it, and I did very
flip it, and that is my bad. Okay. I apologize
for how I went about doing it. I don't apologize

(05:07):
for the sentiment behind it. I don't apologize.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, I get you. I'll get you, and it's all
respect on my end. Mike, you and I, we know
we talked after that. You were like, hey, you know
same thing you're sharing to the public, right, And I
get you. You're trying to build up the build up
a show even more than what it is. You know,
it's one of my favorite shows on YouTube. I you
and I met through there, of course, you know, I
tuned in since episode, since the acquired taste. Actually, but

(05:33):
it's it's good. But a lot of people, you know,
the motherfucker's in the chat in the morning, Mike aren't
gonna let it go. So once they went with the
whole oh you're being a Karen movement, they just kept
pushing and pushing and pushing. And me, you know, I'm
I'm easy to persuade. I guess I got pretty heated
on my end and I was like, nah, Mike, you're
not gonna do that too, not to my boy Chris,

(05:54):
I mean, because you ended up giving me a couple
of compliments. So you know, that kind of went to
my head too. I'm a conceited motherfucker. Everyone on here
knows what's up. But uh but yeah, bro, it's all
lotter under the bridge, over the bridge or what's up.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh, I'm just you know, just looking at it. You know,
there's an evolution to a podcast right. The evolution is
you start off and you get the first thirty forty
fifty views, right, and that's a pretty cool thing. And
then you get to one hundred views and you're like, man,
I got a hundred people who watched the show. And
then it gets to two hundred. Then it gets to
three hundred, that gets the four it gets to the
five hundred. The problem that Joe and I had was

(06:27):
that we were getting it to a certain level and
then it was receding. And there was a point in time,
about two or three months ago where Joe and I
had a conversation about do we want to stop doing
the show daily? Do we want to do it maybe
two days a week or three days a week. Our
numbers were looking really bleak there for a while, and
I don't know why it just happened. I thought the

(06:47):
shows were still good, but it just happened. And as
time went on, we started building a better a larger base,
maybe not a better base, a larger base. So that
now our baseline of minimum number of listeners or viewers
per day is what we used to be considered good.
You know, what was a good day back in the
day is now a bad day. Today, and this is

(07:09):
happening in July, which is the slowest month in sports
by far. Wait until UTSA Football starts and NFL Cowboys
and Texans, wait till the Spurs regular season starts. Our
numbers should double, if not triple at that point. And
I'm just trying to set the foundation for that, and
I Joe is too, but I should have gone a
better way about doing it. But I'm not saying to

(07:32):
not cuss forever. I mean, I've let out two or
three course towards the past week or so. It just
can't be every other sentence because what that what that
does is it limits your listenership and viewership by probably
fifty percent, fifty percent because there are some people gonna
be like, keep it a real, keeping it poodle right,
but not everybody is real, not everybody's pool, And it's

(07:52):
all about the numbers when it's all said and done.
So you got what confined line between the two, No.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
For sure, bro Like, I totally understand where you're coming
from when it comes to, you know, building up the show,
building up the audience, and you know, shut up, congratulations
with the new sponsorship. P F Chang's my broke ass
has been there twice, Mike, So you know you're gonna
have to pass me some gift cards or some ship bron, We're.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Going to get them. Now. We have a little bit
of an echo.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out. I'm not not
really Mike Scabby, I mean savvy, you know, I'm not.
I'm not my boy Joe. Oh echo cancelation, that's all me.
It could be in how's it sounded better?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh? Better better? Actually undred times better?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
All right, yeah that was my en. Yes, sorry, all right, Hey,
anyone talking ship in the chat? Fuck y'all, it's my
show anyway. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
So uh.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
So, Mike, yeah, bro, So it seems like a lot
of people really they're trying to stir the bucket here
in the chat already.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You know, they're trying to you know what, They're trying
to get whatever they want to ask, whatever they want
to cook away.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Whatever y'all want to ask. Yeah, okay, let's go. So
a lot of my boy, Matt Gamz he has you know,
he runs the SAFC fancast. I don't know anything about
the football club, but I'm always supporting my boy. He
wasn't a big fan of the comments you made calling football,
especially in San Antonio broke sport. So leiha wants me
to ask you, why don't you support more local teams,

(09:26):
the Missions, the SAFC, you know, they're a part of
it beyond just the Spurs. So what why is your
coverage mainly just about the Spurs.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, I don't want it to be mainly about the Spurs.
I mean, I want to go back to the days
where we're doing a lot of pop culture references as well.
It's one of those things where, to be honest with you,
people care about the Missions when they're at the game.
You know, when you go to the Wolf and you
go to the game, and they care about it then
and there. If you ask one hundred Spurs fans right

(09:58):
now or hundred sports fans, hey, what's the Mission's record
right now? They don't care. They don't know. It's a
minor league baseball team that I know. We get some
certain good players that go through there and go to
the Padres eventually, but for all intents and purposes, people
go to the Missions game something to get away for
that night. There are no Missions diehards. They don't exist.

(10:21):
There is an Emissions tailgate. There is an a Missions
fan club, and if there is, there's got six members. Okay.
I enjoy going to the Missions games. I have rented
out the party house in there. I have rented out
the upper deck box for my clients before I give
money to the Missions when it comes to that, that
type of support. I love going to the games. But

(10:43):
am I gonna talk about it? Not really? Not really,
Santurini if sees a different sport, man, I think san
ANTOONIFC really deserves its own channel, I wouldn't do it
any justice if I did, Okay, because I don't know
enough about soccer to be intelligent and about soccer, and
maybe that's one of the reasons why I avoid it

(11:03):
so much. Do I see the popularity Games.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
For Starters said for starters, you gotta call it football,
because I almost got canceled for calling it soccer. Bro.
They said, soccer is what the kids play. Football is
what the men are playing. So that's just a little
correction I had to make.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm never gonna I'm never gonna that, dude, not gonna
do that.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's soccer, dude, It's football too ethnic.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's it's not too ethnic, it's soccer.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
What they had.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Are they playing football or they playing soccer in Michigan.
So I mean, and I've gone. I've gone to literally
two s AFC games. I've literally gone to too, and
I've been my time in there. One time, I was

(12:01):
in the in the bunker. One time. I wasn't enjoyed
myself out there. It's a great venue, it's a great atmosphere.
The tailgate was pretty decent. I was actually pretty impressed
by it all. But I bring nothing to the table
and bring it up talking Santoni FC because I don't
know enough about it all. I know that I'm a
T shirt fan when it comes to soccer or AKA football, right,

(12:24):
I'm a T shirt fan. I'm gonna give you an example.
My girlfriend's daughter lives in Miami. She goes to college
over there, so we go and visit her every three
or four months or so because she gets homesick. She
wants to see her mom. I'm trying to get it
so that you know Miami FC is playing that day
because I want to see MESSI not because I'm a
messy fan, although he does wear jersey this color. Not

(12:45):
because I'm a messy fan. Just to say that I
did see him play that. I checked that off as
a sports fan that I saw a legend play. So
I want to go do that. I want to experience that.
And I've told her that all my bucket list is
actually go to like a a menu game or whatever,
not because I'm the biggest football fan or the biggest
soccer fan, because I want to say that I had

(13:06):
that experience. But I do know justice, and I can
talk baseball like crazy. I can talk because I know
a lot about baseball, but if I'm going to talk
about Santo FC, it's just going to be painting around
the edges man, because I don't know enough about the
the the rules or the strategies behind it all. I

(13:26):
know that I know what off sides is, I know
what a header is, I know what a bicycle kick is.
I know what it means to do a corner kick
and what it means to do a penalty kick. And
I don't have a handball this. I know enough to
be dangerous, but I don't want to sound stupid. It's
kind of like me speaking Spanish. I understand Spanish a lot,
but when I speak it, I speak it like a

(13:47):
like a third grader and It's one of those things
where I don't want to be like, I'm a huge
I don't want to be a soccer kid. That's basically it.
Does that make any sense?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, I feel that. I feel that. No, it makes
plenty of sense. I told my boy Harry, and you know,
Matt actually heading to one of the tailgates at the
end of the end of July. The nescios and susios
are linking up, and I'm like, bro, I'm just there
to eat some food and get fucked up because I
have no, absolutely nothing about soccer beyond beyond beyond what

(14:22):
I saw at Air Bud you know, when he transitioned
from the court to to the soccer field. You know,
that's that's as far as my knowledge in the sport goes.
I mean, if you want to start reporting on it, Mike,
you could do what a bunch of these Twitter people do,
follow legitimate coote companies and just bite off their articles
right to to read rewrite their ship right. I could

(14:45):
start seeing the dusty Mike.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Have you seen a chance the wrapper on Saturday Night
Live when he was hosting a couple of years ago.
If you haven't check it out, there's a scene in
there where he's the normal Knicks and he's being told
to go report on the Islanders because one of the
reporters got sick, and he goes.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I don't know if you about hockey, and he goes, man,
they're skating. They're skating kind of fast. You know, they're
doing that hockey thing. You know, Because he had no
idea what the hell is going on. I don't want
to be that guy.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's a great skit, I'll send it to you, but
it's so funny because he had no idea what they
were talking about, even though he's a diehard sports fan
working for a sports network. I don't want to be
that guy. Man. I understand the popularity is there. And
when I said soccer is a poor sport, that's actually
actual and factual. It is a poor sport worldwide. That
doesn't mean that doesn't have the most number of viewers.

(15:39):
It just means that it's it's enjoyed worldwide because you
really don't need much to play it. And I enjoyed.
What I enjoy about soccer fan football fan is how
into it they are. I enjoy the passion that they
have for their teams, that they they sport the year.
What I like about football as well, You know what

(16:00):
time the game's over. The match is over at a
certain time. You go to Spurs game, the game could
be over at nine thirty, could be over at eleven fifteen.
You don't know. You go to a soccer bat, you
got to get there on time. It starts at seven,
we're out the door at eight point fifty. Book, it
add a few minutes of extra playing time and you're
you're at your car by nine. You know how it works, right,

(16:20):
So there's certain things that I love about it. But
you know, it's one of those things also that the
best US athletes don't play football. They play American football,
They play basketball, they play baseball, they play other sports.
It's kind of hard for me to kind of get
into that, but you know, is that almost is that
Joe Mike sense.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
If you can't about.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Show, make more money, make more money, fantastic, fantastic, what's up, Joe?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
That's that's probably it's probably it's probably my new favorite
quote from y'all. You know, anytime anyone tries to bring
up an argument, and it's like, you know, what, bro
if you broke to say that, go make more money.
I'm gonna need that, Mikey ministert on here. People are saying,
I'm taking it easy on you.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I'll take you.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Come at me.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean I'm not gonna be like, uh, you know,
say by the bell, come at me, Bro, But I
mean come out. I don't care. You know, Chica is
not home right now. The kids is playing roadblocks in
the other room. I got nothing going on. Bring it.
This will be Acquire Taste after dark if you want to.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Fuck yeah, I mean you know that you have something there, Bro,
Acquire Tace after dark. If let's show the people what
you're capable of. Are you pootle to? Are you willing
to open up on here? Because they say that you
do hold yourself back out on Alamo City, Bro. But
I've heard a lot of from from the out, from
the outside looking in right, they say that you tend
to actually babysit Joe a lot. You tend to cut

(17:51):
them off and whatnot. People reached out and they said,
ask him how he really feels about his uh coworkers
a respect or your co host? Do you feel like
you're more important to the show than he is at times?
Or no, give me, give me from the outside looking
in at times talk over him and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
And that's something that I okay, so that's actually a
three layer topic there, Okay, so I'll kind of address
all of them. That was my issue at Santoio Sports
Star as well. I would do that to Pledgure, I
would do that to uh Joe ran Egel, and I
had a problem with wanting to speak my turn and

(18:32):
and and not having patience. So that is an ongoing
problem that I've had for a long time. It's not
a disrespect thing. It is me just being stupid. Uh.
There was a time in today's show because I what's
that again?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
No, I said, Oh, it's a mic thing. I said,
I feel it. I do the same shit talk over people.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, so I we did today, Right, We did the
show today, and I listened to maybe thirty minut of
it earlier today right just I was doing dishes, I
turned it on. I wanted to hear how it sounded
and whatnot. The most proud moment I had of the show,
which I thought we had a good show today, The
most proud moment I had of the show was about

(19:13):
a two and a half minute time when I shut
the f up and let Joe cook, and I had
to recognize that Joe's cooking, right. And I think that
if there's something that happens between me and Joe that
that we are both guilty of, is that when one
of us is cooking, the other one has to like
let the other one, let the other one shine, right.

(19:33):
I fail at that all the time, and I need
to get better at that. So if it comes out
at me being that like it's more my show than
his show, I really don't feel that way anymore. I
think he and I had a really good talk about
the show months ago when we were breaking it, when
we were breaking it down as to what we wanted
the show to go. And there's still an evolution of

(19:54):
it all. But there's no show without Joe because I
can't do what you're doing right now, the electronics aspect
of it, running the chat, all that stuff. Have no
desire to do it. Joe is very good at what
he does, and he's a very good producer. When we
first started doing it, it was MJ Acquired Taste. It was
a segue from my old radio show into a podcast format,

(20:17):
and as it has evolved, it has become more of
a two person show, which is what it should be,
because one person show suck. So I'm glad that Joe
and I are now having that rapport. But one thing
that they'll say about sports talk radio, and we had
this at Santaga Sports Star, is that for every show,
there's a driver, there's a passenger, right and back in

(20:39):
the day, I was the driver. Rob Thompson was the driver,
Jason Minnox was the driver, and the passengers were typically Joe, Ryan, Nikel, Rudy,
j and Pledger. And what that basically means is that
there's a person who presents the conversation and basically does
that the headline, the presentation, sets the table, and then
it becomes fifty fifty. So in actuality, if you want

(21:03):
a fifty to fifty show, it's it's really gonna be
sixty forty because it's somebody's job to segue and put
and set the table. But that's my personality and I
have a hard time with that because drivers, the drivers
of shows like to talk. And if it comes off
where I'm being disrespectful towards Joe, I'm not trying to be.

(21:23):
I really am not trying to be and I'm and
I've become more aware of that he did. No one
here hadn't told me that, And he doesn't have to
tell me that because I already know I need to
shut the fuck out sometimes I do know that. And
the proudest moment I had today was at two and
a half minute when he was cooking talking about the
Spurs and I had a backtrack, so so and that

(21:45):
was my proudest moment. I was counting how long it
was when I shut up, and I was I was
proud of that today.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know, you became self aware, bro, and that's step
one of you know, getting getting better. I tend to
talk over everyone, and I know Jeff keeps inviting me
back to lows, but I have a hard time, you know,
finding the gaps from when he's talking to when I'm
supposed to talk, and it's kind of just h I'll
tell Jeff. I was like, Bro, it's alsome, my adhd,
it's running. I always want to be the lead man.

(22:15):
You know, sometimes you just have to take it back
to let your homeboy cook. And that's a good thing.
That was a good dynamic between Brandon and I. We
had two explosive personalities and met you know, it was
just like boom boom boomle to finish each other's sentences,
you know, he we just we just jelled well together.
So yeah, I get what you're saying. You actually got
some love from your co host. He said, Real Talk,

(22:37):
the Area two and oh podcast does not exist without
Mike and much respect to my brother, you know, much love, Joe.
Glad you're in here listening. But uh, you know, I
want to get into this comment. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh, I was gonna say. You know, you have a
co host at some point, you build rapport with them
and you get to like see where they're going. It's
like you it's like it's like a like a relationship
that you have with a girlfriend or a spouse or
what not. Were you know what they're thinking and you
know where they're going and you get to fill in
the blanks. I'm glad that you had that with Brandon.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Sorry, Yeah, thank you, bro. Yeah you guys kind of No,
You're fine, bro, Mike, we shut the fuck up for
two minutes. I'm just kidding, But no, man, I want
to get to Marriokbasis's comment. He says, essay, sports star
is all white. We joke about you know, the whole
ethnic ethnicity stuff. When it comes to you. You know,
we don't call you Miguel Jimenez. You're your Mike, You're

(23:31):
your Coconut, right, do you think I? You know, I
remember when you got released. You know, sorry about that
fuck Mike what's his name, Jim Rome or whoever? The fuck?
No one listens to that dinosaur. I'll say it for
you so you don't get in trouble. Do you feel
like your your race had something to do with with
you getting dropped? Do you think it played a little
part in that mic?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
No? I I I feel it played no role. Although
when I brought it up, I I when I when
I brought it up, it was kind of like an
oh shit moment for them because they didn't want to
be seen that way. I remember I brought it up
afterwards because it wasn't only me, because immediately after I left,
Rudy J left as well, and Sports Star became all white.

(24:14):
And I would have conversations with some people there at
the station, some of them on air, and I would
talk about the importance of representation within a city. And
we had conversations not only about TV, about radio, but
TV news as well. That you know, you want to
have somebody there that is local and someone there that
is representative of the people. San Antonio is what sixty

(24:39):
percent Hispanic, if not more. And because of that sixty
maybe seventy p sixty five percent right around there, and
I mean the south side, of the west side, half
of the northwest side. I mean the numbers go up there.
And I think it's important for radio stations and TV
stations to know that. I mean, look at like the

(25:00):
local TV station here in town, Ken's five had easys
for Metal Right went from ksat to Ken's five. It's
a great higher because people understand that name from metal Right.
It's important to have that. I don't believe race played
a factor in my in my release. I think what
played a factor in my release was the fact that
I was a contest winner and I was always seen

(25:23):
as such. And for many books, books are are ratings periods.
They hid the ratings from me. I would always ask,
I'd ask the powers that'd be over there, what are
my ratings? What do they look like? And they would
always say they look good, they look good, they look good,
and that's all I would get, not a tangible number.

(25:44):
Right when I found out what my numbers were. They
were I was number one for sports talk radio like
city wide. Now doesn't mean that I had the most
number of listeners because I had a higher percent of
people listening, But fewer people are listening at noon that
are listening at four o'clock in the afternoon or eight

(26:05):
in the morning, so they had more listeners than I did.
But I had more listeners in proportion to my time slot.
And they started dicking or me around a little bit. Man.
They started dicking me around with my with my salary
which was agreed upon for the full year, and they

(26:26):
were trying to come at me to try to lower
my salary and whatnot. So it wasn't like one of
those things where I was like, oh, well you got canned, man,
you got shit canned, and therefore, you know, you were
told not to come back or whatnot. I had the
highest ratings of my time slot by far, and I
had a high What was interesting about my ratings was
that my ratings were high among twenties, thirties, forties, fifties,

(26:48):
and sixty year olds. And I had a higher percentage
of women listening too, like an odd percentage of women
listening so I it was a blessing in disguise because
I got to go back and focus more on my business.
And my business has done well and I have the
ten nine ninees to prove it. But sorry, I've got

(27:10):
to be a dick somehow. Man. No, but I love
everybody over there, man. I love Pleasure, I love Joe Ryanagel,
I love Jason Minnix, my old partner, Rudy Jay. You know,
I have mended fences with Tim Spence and all that stuff,
and they're very complimentary towards me as time has gone on.

(27:32):
Minnis brought me up on the show the other day.
They were making fun of me on the show and
I haven't been there for two years and they were
making fun of me. Love those guys. It was a
bad situation. They need to have more Latino representation there.
It's a shame that they don't. It's a shame that
they didn't hire somebody for that. And it hasn't been

(27:53):
the same man. And there's a reason why the ratings
they are a little bit shaky compared to what it
had been in the past. Because I'll be honest with you,
I thought i'd heard time. Okay, I was gonna say
at the time, I thought we had a really good
I thought we had a really good synergy going because
the morning show fed into me and I would bake

(28:13):
it and then I would say something stupid, and then
Joe and Jason would jump on top of it, and
then if fed around to the next day. And it
was almost like a lot of the silly comments I
was making, whether I believe them or not, more often
than a lot I did. I was kind of driving
things and I missed those days. Man, I miss my guys.
I miss Plasure. I hope to see him this weekend.

(28:35):
But I don't think race had anything to do with it.
I think fight economics had something to do with it.
I think the respect factor has something to do with it,
because I was just some contest winner. I wasn't this
lifer in the radio game, Like how dare he meant
as do well in radio? You know?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
April April, at the end of at the at the
end of it. Fuck it, bro, whether you came upon
drew a contest or not, Look how far you've come.
You've done well for yourself. You know, I'm not trying
to kiss your ass on you. I don't need people
call me Mike Junior all over again. Took me a
while to shut off that name, and you know, still
not forgiving you guys Swiss you know face photoshop you

(29:14):
and I on a broke Back Mountain photo that wind
that went Semi virol a couple of times. So those
are fun, but I love you.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I've enjoyed a lot of those photoshops and when some
of them were good, the one most recently me in
the Rockets jersey with my arms out, you know, without
an undershirt. That was That was so good, man, that
was so good. And I showed them to my girlfriends
every once in a while and she'll start laughing at it.
I only got mad at one of them, and the
one I got mad at was they did it where

(29:45):
it looked like it was a news story on Case
at twelve of me being quote unquote wanted for child
pornography or that was the only one that went above
the line for me.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Okay, I joy I think I remember the I think
I remembered. I think someone had dropped one kind of
mentioned that you were fucking animals or something.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
And a case at logo. It looked legit, It looked legit.
It wasn't like, oh, well, it's a fake, funny photoshop
or whatever. That one looked very legit. And at the time,
I was in the middle of a very very big
uh case transaction at my work that was gonna be
that was gonna set my year off in a good way.

(30:33):
And can you imagine if that photoshop had jeopardized my
business because.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's all funny games that they started costing you money? Dog,
I feel you.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, it is and and it's one of those things
where I have clients who listen to my podcasts, you know,
I I have clients who came from the podcast. But
I have But if you're someone who's vetting somebody, if
someone's going to give you money to invest, and they're
gonna give you half a million, a million dollars too
many dollars to invest, g that's what they do. They
go onto Google and they they search you, right, they
want to look at what you who you are, whatnot.

(31:06):
And I've had a lot of times people have come
up to me who I've I've had as as new
clients come up and go, dude, I was searching you online.
I see that you do a podcast. I was listening
to it another reason why I'm toning down the cursing
as well. By the way, but had they stumbled upon
that and said, well, what's this, even if I came
at them and said, dude, it's just a funny photoshop,

(31:28):
that they it was a it was a photoshop. They're
you know, they're part of a podcast, or it's part
of my podcast, or it's a listener or somebody that
follows me on Twitter, and then it sets the whole
rabbit hole about it all. That was a big case.
That was one of the biggest cases of my career
going down at the time, and that thing got released.
That's why I got met and it also got bad

(31:49):
because even if if that big case was not happening,
just if you want to call me a Rockets fan, great,
but as someone who's a father, don't call me a
pedophile to you, you know, especially one who has.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Daughters or a dog or a dogfucker Bro that I'm
not trying to laugh because I know your cousins, Bro,
But oh man, that that was brutal. But uh, Mike,
you do tend to catch a lot of ship on
social media.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Midtown says the apologies right, and he did, and I
said that apology, and it's and and and I don't
Everything that he's done since then has been amazing. I
have no problem.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, no, bro, I mean it takes it takes a man,
a man up and you know, reach out, take the
apology and not go on and stand on business, you know,
try to cook you again. But uh, Mike, I've seen
and I've I've talked to a couple of the fellows
that some people don't know the difference between roasting and attacking, right.
I know. I was one of the first ones who

(32:51):
jokingly brought up your divorce, you know, sorry about that. Oh,
congrats on finalizing on the second one. But I've seen
some people come mad, you call it, calling you everything
from fucking you know, from this dumb ass, this fat
ass to that's why saying comments like that's why his
wife left up and all the shit. Oh, I don't
have the skin for that. I get. You know, you're

(33:12):
you're very good at holding your own you. You know,
you forgive and forget or you just ignore them. I
can't do that personally, Mike. How do you do it
to not go back at those people? Because you know,
the second y'all mentioned my wife my kid, I'm gonna
crash the fuck out, and I'm just giving everyone heads up.
So you're more of a man in that case than I.
I'm Mike.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
This is the conversation I've had with people in the media,
from people in the radio podcasters Carolina Tigue is one
that I've spoken to about this, is that they're gonna
be haters out there anyway. You know, doing a podcast
or a show is about eighty stick or ninety ten,

(33:54):
and it's more real than not right. And I think
that there's a very good book called How to Deal
with Difficult People, and I read it a long time ago,
and it basically talks about like how to talk to
people who are displaying anger at you but trying to

(34:16):
hide it in comedy. And the way that you do
that is either A you ignore it or B you
expose it. You know, if I thought somebody went out
went overboard, I will I will do that, right. I
give an example, the whole ten night nine thing. Do
you know how that one came up? Do you know
how that one came up? The whole ten night nine

(34:36):
came up? It wasn't me being arrogant, it was me
having a bad day. Dude, I lost my radio show,
my wife didn't want to be married anymore, my dog died,
my kids were kind of in flux with with with
the whole situation. My business partner had backed out. I

(35:00):
was in a bad headspace and somebody was coming at
me that day right was going through therapy. This is
around the time where where Joe and I had done
the podcast for a little while. Then we took some
time off because my head was not in it, and
some some punk was going off on me, calling me

(35:21):
every name in the book, loser, this, that and the other.
And I said, hey, man, I'm not a loser. You know.
I'm so glad that you lost your job. I hope
you know you lost your radio show, lost your job.
I hope you suffer because of it. Odd stuff. And
I said, dude, that was a hobby of mine. Like
Minnix and Ryan Egel and Pledger and Rob Thompson and

(35:42):
the other dude that does the morning show. That is
their career. What do you jay? That was their career.
That's not my career. Never was like, that was my hobby.
It was a good paid hobby, but it was a hobby. Nonetheless,
made more with my business, and I was. I told him,
I said, hey, sorry to piss you off a little
bit or a disappoint you, but I that's not my

(36:03):
source of income. Man. You know, that was a hobby.
I got paid for it, but that was my hobby.
And the guy kept going off about by divorce who
doesn't even know anything about anything, and all this stuff,
and started calling me a loser, hoping I go broke
and all that stuff. And I just basically said, I
probably I'm a loser, id I'd probably make more money

(36:24):
than you do. And he goes, well, I'm twenty three
years old. You know, of course you make more money
than me. You're middle aged. And I said, okay, what
do you do for a living. And he told me
what he did for a living, which wasn't much. I said, well,
when I was twenty three years old, I was a
TV news reporter at KBB in San Antonio. I was
a college graduate. I had this actlete I had worked

(36:47):
at a TV station in Corpus Christy. I was doing
postgame interviews at Spurs games and all that stuff. And
I made this much money back in the year two thousand,
when I was twenty three years old, and I said,
are you doing that? And then he goes, well, no,
but I got blah blah blah, and I said, and
I said, maybe I'm a jackass, but who's a loser now?

(37:09):
And it was me just bully and the bully, you know,
and I kind of said something of the effect of
I got the ten ninety nine to show it to
you or prove it to you, or something to that effect.
And I might that might have been one combination conversation,
or I might be might be because it's been a
couple of years, it might be a combination of four
or five, you know, like you have a character in

(37:30):
a movie that's really a factual character, but it's really
a compilation of three or four people. That might have
been three or four conversations that I'm putting together as one.
But he's after that. That was the evolution of it all.
And and it was you know, I now joke with it.
Although I do do well for myself, man, I enjoyed

(37:51):
doing what I do. I don't work very hard anymore.
I work a full time job once. I don't work
as hard anymore as that. In my business, you know,
it's hard to get a name for yourself out there right,
it's hard to get a name for yourself. I struggled
for ten years in this industry. I worked multiple jobs,
multiple full time jobs at one time, eighty hours a week,

(38:14):
ninety hours a week away from my kids. So I'm
reaping the benefits the rewards of what I did back
in two thousand and eight, twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty.
And now I'm in a comfortable space where my clients are.
I have the clients that I need and want.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, man, Bro's it's great seeing someone like your a
not someone your age. I didn't mean to call you old,
but someone has been through what you've been through, especially
in just these four years a loon, Bro, I've seen
the rollercoaster in your life, whether it be you know,
losing the job, the marriages and all that, and then
this is your comeback story, and it's pretty dope to

(38:53):
see you out there visiting these foreign countries and whatnot.
I just tweeted at you. I was like, when you're
in Jamaica, if you come back with dreads, I will
not be your friend anymore. I said, I will cancel
you myself. I said, I'm not going to have you
culturally appropriating.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well, no, I mean Jamaica's cool. I mean Jamaica's cool.
They have dispensaries all over the place, and I'm not
one who's opposed to that. Go check out dispensary or two.
You know, my girlfriend is pretty interesting because, you know,
she likes to travel and she does pretty well for herself.
And we've we've done a good job of paying down

(39:31):
all of our stuff and we live within our means
and all that stuff, you know, and we save up
and we we go on these trips. It's actually not
as expensive as people think. But still it's excessive for
a lot of people, but I get that. But it's
not as bad as what people might think it is.
But we go out there for three or four days
and just enjoy life and drink a lot, you know,

(39:56):
do the excursions and all that stuff. It's funny because
I was down in the dumps a couple of years ago,
and now I have a girlfriend who is a lot
more attractive than my ex. Hate to say it that way,
but it just is what it is. My ex was
not unattractive, but I outkicked my coverage big time this
time around. She does well for res all she's successful.

(40:18):
She's super clean. My house, I swear, you know, military grade.
Get the white glove and just go across the table.
They have one speck of dust in this place. It
like everything is in place, in order, and it's it's
a blessing to have this life. And you know what,
she's a Spurs fan. That helps out too.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Bah, that's that's perfect. Bro. You know, I'm gonna give
everyone some inside baseball. When I told Mike on here,
I said, Mike, you get cooked enough. You get cooked
enough on social media. You know, if anyone's gonna cook
you during the show, it's going to be the chat.
But looks it looks to seem like you're turning them over. Bro.
You're actually getting compliments saying how you how you cook

(41:01):
that young motherfucker. And then your comeback story, you know,
it's it's been great and you're doing good for yourself.
Well great for yourself. I mean, I'd switch my my
role with yours, at least financially if that was possible.
But you know, I'll get there eventually. But bro, this
is like the perfect comeback story. The San Antonio Sports

(41:23):
star letting you go was actually a blessing in disguise,
and you know, as long as you keep that mindset
and know that the work you put in doesn't go
unnoticed and all this all is going to be well
for you.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Bro Well, I mean I would. I would tell people
just simply be good at something, man, you know, and
and and work it. I'm good in finance. I do
a really good job as the financial guy. I know
I do. I joke around that I don't work as
hard as I used to because I have a big
client base or a good sized client base, But man,

(41:57):
I take care of my clients and I really do.
And and they see my podcast as being funny. Uh.
I get the occasional client from the podcast Jumping on
Jumping on the boat, But more often than not, I
find a client or I'm refer to somebody and then
they start listening to the show, and I find that
to be interesting. Uh. But the redemption story is, you know,

(42:17):
for anybody who's going through crap right now and you're
down in the dumps, man, just find a friend to
who's gonna uplift you. Find a friend who's going to
roll with people who are going to be uh appreciative
and and and happy for your success. Than those who
not man do there's something that's a bad thing about

(42:39):
the Latino culture. Some would say, I have friends comedians
who have said this before. African American culture too, where
it's like when you do well, you get made fun of,
or you or they bring you, they try to bring
you down, right, like misery likes misery loves company type
of thing. And if you can find yeah, if you
can find someone to latch on to, is that wants

(43:01):
your best interest in mine? Dude, it's it's it's a
great thing, man. You know, Jeff Garcia was really good,
you know, when I was down on the dumps. James
Pledger was really good. My friend Brian Reese was good
for me. Alex Noriega, Sean Kintaro, they did a fantastic
job kind of uplifting my spirits when I was at
my lowest point. And now that I feel like I'm

(43:26):
back on top of my game, dude, my work has
never been more successful. I think Joe and I are
doing the best podcast we've ever done in the last
two or three weeks. And it's not because of the
lack of cussing. I think it's just one of the
things where that's a part of it. But I think
part of it is is that I'm becoming more disciplined
and allowing Joe to cook better. Uh. And also I

(43:46):
think Joe is starting to understand We're not having conversations
being Joe about like what we need, you know, like
like like when's the appropriate time to do the super chat.
You know, it's kind of like, you know, there needs
to be So it's like a Rubik's cube. But he's
getting better at w when I need fixing. I'm getting
better when he needs fixed. And and I'm not trying

(44:07):
to come off as a dick, because I never try
to be that way with him. Joe is the heartbeat
of that show. I mean, he is the heartbeat of
that show. There's no show without Joe, and I know that.
And he is so good what he did, I was
I was asked by two radio stations, so looking to
doing something over there, I was asked by two or

(44:28):
three other podcast networks to go with him. I chose Joe,
you know, and and I've it was the right choice
from the get go. And now, how many podcasts have
three hundred and ninety episodes? How many podcasts have twenty
four hundred and sixty subscribers.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
How many podcasts? O y'all? Are y'all are cooking over
there at Alamo City?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, we're, we're, we're And I'm looking forward to when
the Spurs season starts and Cowboys season starts and all
that stuff. I'm looking forward see what the numbers are.
Then there's a thing in economics and investments where it's
called the floor in the ceiling, right, And what the
market goes like this? Right? It goes up and down
within a certain level where there's a floor, there's a ceiling, right,

(45:13):
and at some point, if it breaks through the ceiling,
the old ceiling becomes the floor. And we've done that
with our podcast. We used to be like, man, it'd
be great to have three hundred listeners today, right, behead,
the three hundred listeners be great. And now three hundred
listeners is a bad day. And now we're excited about
getting five hundred and seven hundred. And I know that

(45:35):
come September, October, November, we're gonna be looking at a
thousand listeners being a bad day. We know that that's coming.
And what I like about the podcast community in San Antonio,
especially for those in sports, is that We are all
kind and nice to each other. One of our first
guests on our show was Mike Taylor for crying out loud,

(45:55):
you know we're we're even the Samsay. The sports are
are still good to us. We have Rudy compos Jr. Yourself,
Carolina Tigue. All of us are really supporters of each other,
and we understand that we're in our own lanes. There's
a new guy named Darien Starling who I was going
back and forth with today on Twitter. He does a

(46:16):
fantastic job doing utsa podcast and I'm impressed with what
he does. And part of me is thinking, how do
Joe and I get this podcast to a higher level?
How do we co brand it with something? Do we
co brand with a radio station? Do you cop branded
with the TV station? What do we How can we
do that? And what I'm doing is looking at like

(46:42):
some of our shows. Today's show that we did Joe
and I cooked for like seventeen minutes straight. It was
a great seventeen minute stretch. He's gonna hate that I
say this, but the sid Goo guy ruined that beat
for a few seconds. It's almost like I could I

(47:06):
like then you can tell you could yeah, I like.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
This to you. When you're talking, I hear the chit ching.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Well, okay, first of all, go ahead, go ahead. The
two gritos. I'm perfectly fine with the the the guy
air air boxing at the Sidco station. I think we
can say that one for the end of the show,
like like like like like the comedic, the comedy relief

(47:40):
at the end of the show. But the other two Grietos,
I'm fine with the Viva Mexico one and then the
the old Man at Market Square. I think it's hysterical.
It took me a while, but now I love it.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Can we agree with this comment? Can we? Do you
agree with this comment? Mike says Mike hates Joe's dropped
low key. Maybe not all the time, but I do
see you getting fed up up a bit with the
whole super chat. Bro. You could only hear here comes
the money a certain amount of time, especially when you're cooking,
and it's kind of like beep, and I kind of
almost seen you get your headphones and launch the motherfuckers

(48:11):
across the room. Come on, we'll get to Joe.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Okay, okay, okay, so and and this is this is
you know, airing out laundry. Right during laundry, the show
go ahead, Rob Thompson and s Antonio Sports start. He
used to say that I was the best segue er
at the station. He would say, you have for somebody
who never did radio, but I did TV. I was

(48:36):
a TV news reporter for seven years. He he would say,
for someone who never did radio, he goes, you are
the best at segueing from topic to topic. So whenever
I see the super chats come in in my head,
I'm thinking of a segue to get back to them.
So so so there's a formula going on in my
head where I'm talking and I'm trying to make I'm

(48:57):
trying to do my takes and trying to get go
back and forth with Joe on those takes. In my head,
I saw the super chat, I'm gonna go back to it,
and I'm gonna try to segue into it, and let's
go to the super chet because I saw one about
you know, Jones, Garcia, Carter Bryant. Yeah, I'm trying to
like weave my way through into it. And if it

(49:18):
looks like I want to throw my headphones, I apologize,
but sometimes I do. Uh, But the time the super
chants come in, dude. Uh, you know, I'm just so
grateful that the super chants come in. Joe is very
respectful of the listeners, and he's I think he's trying
to prevent me from like denying them what they're asking for.
But I'm not trying to do that. It's kind of like,

(49:40):
but there have been times though, where the super chats
stack up and and the one that needs to shut
the fuck up is me, you know because at that
point if they're stacking up and stacking up, so I
get it. So sometimes I'm in.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
The wrong with it. Yeah, bro, And it's I mean,
I love the y'all are getting money via super chats book.
Could someone tell Drew that he doesn't need a pay
to get to shit red online? He makes me look broke.
I'm trying to get you know, my cousin's read like superchats.
Super chats are just bouncing me. I was like, you
know what, you know what, Drew, go ahead and keep that,

(50:12):
but we're gonna start closing up your mic. But uh,
I wanted to give your flowers on one more thing.
You know, I see me, I'm Rocky, my my dad
gang Cap. Yeah, I met you when I when I
brought home my little one, right, I reached out to
every dad I knew and just asked him, hey, how
do you do it? Especially being a girl dad, Like,
I'm scared, I've never done this before. Well, I'll get

(50:35):
into a story maybe in a future episode of how
a girl claimed she was pregnant with my kid had
the baby five days before my birthday. Said, hey, your
birthday presents here. I've always wanted to be a father.
Shit happen, We go get DNA test, turns out I'm
not dad booh right, so uh yeah. So when my
my wife and I, when she told me she was pregnant, bro,

(50:55):
I was static, but that little PTSD kind of kicked it.
Now that my mind, my wife has ever been disloyaled
on me. It was just like I've had my heart
broken before when it came to that. But you know,
once everything came to fruition, you know, my daughter was here,
I was. I've reached out to almost every dad I believe.
I reached out to Chris, Leiha yourself, Joe and you

(51:18):
guys gave me wonderful advice, especially you being a girl dad.
I mean, I still reach out from time to time,
and you've told me in the background, you know that
you're doing a great job with your little one, and
you know it's good to see her growing, and you know,
proud of you, and a lot of people don't get
to see this this side of Mike. And that's kind
of that's kind of where I wanted to take your
episode today. Brother. I feel like you've been cooked enough.

(51:41):
And you know, the chat in the Alamo City podcasts
and Area two and oh, it's gonna be, it's gonna
be what it's gonna be. Right, they know they're attacking
the character. I just wanted everyone to get to know
the person behind the character. That's to you, Mikey Menace
the Oh.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
You know, there's a little old song by Dwight Yoakum
called Streets of Bakerfield, and in.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
That man listens to that, he'll billy shit, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Kill That's an old time nineteen eighties song. Right. I
saw him in concert. Gonna get some heat for saying this.
He opened up for George Straight and was better than
George Straight that night. Fact, and I love you George Straight.
But song streets of Bakersfield, you don't know me if
you don't like me, you know, and that and that's

(52:29):
the thing is that I've had people who've come up
old radio show podcasts, come up and see me at
a bar whatever, and then hate the fact that they
like me five minutes later. You know, they hate the
fact that they like me five minutes later because they
realized that I'm not a dick. I'm not sitting there

(52:50):
firing off hot takes at the bar. But it's it's,
you know, it's funny to meet people who listen to
the show. I think it's a trip that four hundred
and seventy five people or five hundred and thirty people
watched yesterday show. That's just on YouTube. Whoever, how many
people watch it on Facebook and Twitter is a different number.
I think it's a trip that people are there watching

(53:11):
and and like the takes. And I've told Joe this
before the numbers once you get those numbers up. I
had a guy come up to me the other day
and said, Hey, we listened to you at work, so
we as in it counts as one subscriber watching or listening,
but they had on the overhead at their work, and
it's like, yeah, we have several people listening at one time,

(53:33):
but they have just one connection listening. I find that
it's a trip that all that is going on. And
you know, I'm not that big of a jerk. I'm
not the nicest guy, but I'm not the meanest guy
of all time. But I love the community that we've
we've put together. I love our listeners and what they
bring to the table, and we love the super chats.

(53:56):
But as your show gets gets going and grows, you know,
it's you know, make sure that you set the table.
That's that's the important part of any radio show or
any podcasts is setting the table. Joe and I have
the ability because we've done this show three hundred ninety

(54:18):
one times. We have the ability to just just go
off and run, right. I told you before the show started.
I woke up at nine fifty five the other day
and started doing the podcast with Joe at ten. You know,
stinky breath and all because I just went and comb
my hair and I just went went off to the show,
grabbed the vitamin water, and just kept going. But set

(54:39):
the table. Know what you want to talk about, Set
the table. Have a good interaction with the people that
you've got going on. You have a good base of people.
I'm glad that MCS has jumped on board with you.
I enjoyed doing the show with Joe. And we're gonna
celebrate episode four hundred pretty soon. We're gonna celebrate subscriber
twenty five hundred pretty soon. And it's we're scratching the surface. Now,

(55:02):
what's going to be a bigger podcast? Uh? We thought
our podcast was dying three months ago, and now it's
stronger than it's ever been. So it's amazing. You never know. Oh,
one last thing, we can't lay. He beat me in
a foot race as of today as the answer, because

(55:25):
you have that. I got a I think about a
year ago, right before with the Barbados, if they had
a chance man fighting chance, I.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Don't think so. I saw Leiha run up to two
levels at a parking garage in Austin, Texas. He took
me to go to see wrestling. There was a fucking
crash in the lower level. He just happened to have
a vest on, right, I mean a vest in his car.
He put that whole down and he was directing traffic.
He came in drenched in sweat. I was like, bro,
you a big You're too big of a motherfucker to

(55:57):
be moving that quick. So I don't know, Mike. I
think I think, I think Leha would have had your
number regardless, and you know, perfect see.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I'm sure he can beat me in the honey yar dash.
I'm sure he could beat me in a quarter mile.
What I'm thinking is I might get him on a
one to two mile distance, maybe back in the day,
back of the day, about a year ago. I need
my need to come back. But he's actually feeling a
lot better today. It feels a lot.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
That's that's good.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Jonathan Bettis, what's theholl say, asked Mike about the night
we went to the Spurs game and he was down
in the club drinky.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I've got this motherfucker, I was, I was. I was
trying to segue into that Mike. You know, he said,
you gotta get Leha and Mike and squash it. Then
I was gonna bring this up. But you know, oh
you ready, it's all fun, bro. I remember that night
because Chris called us or he left the voice chat.
My boy was slump. How drunk did he get, Mike?

(56:52):
Give us give us your perspect.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I don't remember him, dude. Joe well, leha, I don't
remember him getting to too drunk. Really, I don't. Uh.
He might have played it off pretty well, but cause
like when I get drunk, you know it, I slore
my words, I don't stand very well. I start to
karaoke right, But no, I don't remember him being too
too bad. But I do remember a lot lots of

(57:18):
drinks being pounded that I do remember.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Yeah, I remember like leaving us, like a five minute
of voice chat saying I'm so fucked up. He's just like, uh,
no one tell my wife. No one tell my wife.
Like we didn't. We didn't even know her name at
the time. We're like, Chris, you're out there drinking. Then
I actually stayed up to give my big brother like, hey,
did you get home fine? The next day, he's like, man,
we were talking shit to while the spurs, you know,

(57:45):
the fucking drinks just kept coming. He's like, I almost
got lost when we left the arena. It sounded like
like a good night bro. I wish I wish I
would have been there for something like that. Yeah, Like
I said, he used to run cross country. You don't
want the smoke?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Well, leh means not not football.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Not football. Alright, all right, Mike, So we ran a
little bit over in time. But is there anything you
want to plug? Brother, go ahead, plug your plug, your job,
plug your show and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Hey shows on eleven thirty ten to eleven thirty. You know, uh,
almost any podcast network area two one oh podcast come
check us out. Uh you know my my number for
financial needs two one O five O weeight oh three
six nine two one oh fiveh eight oh three six nine.
Anybody has questions about retirement planning or insurance planning, whatever

(58:36):
the case may be, something like that, reach out to me. Uh,
it was a pleasure, dude. You're doing a good job.
I love the graphics and glad suit the League has
you on and uh man, I'm looking forward to it.
And thanks for letting me speak my piece and letting
me cuss a few times.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, man, no problem is it's good to give people
another perspective of Mike the mic that I know not
to sound all gay and shit. I'm not gonna go
over there and kiss and hug you, but no, I'm
just glad. I'm just I'm just glad that you were
able to you know, come on here, man, you you're
pretty much fucker. But you're not that pretty. But all right,
we're going to show with that one before you come
at my ass, and.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Thank you for not giving me a craft about Lulu Lemon. Man.
That's that. That one has coming gone.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Man. I can't talk about what I can't afford, Mike,
but this has been the show. Everyone, be on the
lookout for the next episode to plead the sith. I
believe I'm gonna have my boy Mike Mayer from Off
the Top Rope podcast out in Cali. It's gonna be
a wrestling show. Mike. I hope this isn't your your
last appearance on the on the show. You're welcome back

(59:38):
here anytime.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
That's been the show. Everyone much love,
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