7-18-25 SWEEP THE LEAGUE TV - FRIDAY NIGHT GENERATIONAL FIGHT

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Sweet Hey, this is yours I.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Radio. You know it's the best day ever. Rudy compos
Junior for Sweep the League on a special Friday night
edition of Sweep the League. If you've got your weekend started,
which a lot of you guys are at SmackDown for
WWE tonight, and I think it's XANNYTONI if I'm not mistaken,

(00:38):
but it's the weekend grab. I have my my whatever.
This is death note cup. It's got a little bit
of adult beverage in there, so I'm taking a little
It's gonna be one of those nights for us. We're
gonna start the weekend off right. It's gonna be myself,
it's gonna be creating the market's own Jacob eric Hearing tonight,

(01:00):
plus coach g o is gonna be joining us here
a little bit. What are we gonna do tonight? We're
gonna cook because all week I've been getting cooked on
Locked on Spurs YouTube for calling, you know, saying Wimby's
not generational because I say he's not generational. Now we're
gonna get to all those comments. Why, because it's one
of those nights. It's one of those FTW Knights We're

(01:23):
just gonna chill tonight. You guys have questions, ask questions.
You guys wanna drop comments, drop comments. You guys want
to cook with us, cook right alongside with us. For
all you old heads out there, there used to be
a restaurant in San Antonio called You are Cooks, and
you would grill your own steak. You would do your
own thing. It goes over there off of four to
ten and evers, or rather in that area. Man, we

(01:46):
are gonna cook tonight. I don't care what you want
to talk about. You want to insult, you want to
do whatever. Let us cook tonight. I'm assuming you met Rudy,
not Rosie. Now you're changing my name. It's bad enough,
Jeff that I get cooked un locked on for telling
the truth and being honest. Now you're misspelling my name Street.
You're saying you're still getting cooked for your womby comments

(02:08):
on lows. Apparently I know ball and people don't know ball,
but you know what, forget it. Let's bring on Jacob
Eric right now grading the markets on Jacob Eric Canziano. Man,
welcome to sweep, dude. We're waiting for that one guy
to appear who just texted me will be on at
about ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
So, hey, man, what's up Rudie. Thanks for having me on, man,
But you know, when let's go back to this thing,
you know what, I apologize to locked on Spurs or whatever.
I don't I'm not too familiar. Who's been cooking you?
What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, I I kind of want to save that for
the end, but I've I've gotten tons of comments. I've
even I'm not gonna lie when I got cooked on
Twitter because I say cooked, bro, I wasn't getting cooked.
There's no there's nobody's getting cooked. What I was getting.
What I was getting hate fan mail from people who

(03:04):
are diehard Spurs fans, which I'm I love my Spurs,
but because I don't agree, or because I don't say
Wemby's generational or I'm mister negative, I hate the Spurs.
I'm a Spurs hater. You know, I don't know jack
shit about anything. It's so crazy to hear all these
people talk. But yet at the same time, it's the

(03:26):
same people that will say, well, screw san Antonio. They
can't win a game, they can't do this, You're wasting
Wemby's generational talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, pick a fucking side, bro.
I mean, you either want to love the team, you know,
and talk, you know, straight facts about the team, or
you want to hate them and go live in you know,

(03:49):
Candyland somewhere. We're gonna get into the comments, bro. I
want to wait for GEO because he has a problem
with me saying generational is all that stuff. But I
promise you we're gonna We're gonna get into all these
comments that I promise you.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, but it's it's always something like that, you know
what I mean. And even if you ever do for
those of y'all who have done like a Locked on
Spurs episode, you know, just be prepared for the backlash.
There's gonna be a whole bunch of hey, f you,
f you, f you if they don't agree with you, you
know what I mean, You're gonna spend your day on
end Twitter whatever it is. Hey, y'all decide to freaking

(04:26):
call it these days. Just go ahead and plan your
day for the rest of the day. You're gonna be
busy doing that. Yeah, but it happens, you know, we
kind of like laugh about it and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
But yeah, yeah, I you know, Jeff. Jeff likes to
stir the pot on Twitter all the time, and you know,
something happens, he stirs it, and I like it because
it's the backlash. Now. I mean, I mention I've got
my death no cup, and there's there's some death in there.
Let's be honest. There's some good death in there tonight
or drinking tonight a little bit here. So I mean,

(04:59):
I'm not gonna drop names of people that I really
don't like to mess with on Twitter. There's only like
literally a handful, but I will say those are the
ones that if they come at me then we have problems,
then it's gonna get a little bit feisty. It's gonna
get you know, a little bit maybe for lettery stuff

(05:19):
like that. So I promise not to drop those names
in the chat. PTSTV man, you know Jacob Eric, you
know PTSD he pleaded the sith TV man. At least
is just he's blowing up. He's blowing up big times.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Man.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
He's saying, what the fuck is up?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
What?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Nope, there's no cussing on sweep the league, man, There's
no cussing on sweep the league. Rudy Evic puts up
identical numbers as last season, Well that show that he
is what he is already. I don't even Jacob, be honest, man,
do we even know what we have in Wimby right now?
I say no, I really don't.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, he hasn't even played a full season, so true,
he hasn't even played a full season, So we don't
even know what we have. So yeah, I agree with you. One,
how is you know, calling him generational stuff like that?
You know? Going back again, we've we've talked about this

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one hundred times people, What what is Wenby? Now? It
depends on whether you asked first Twitter is he's seven
four seven five seven, six seven seven. They want to
make them this mythological freaking figure or whatever this and that, Well,
you know what, you can make them fucking seven nine.
Those people don't usually last that long, so you know

(06:39):
what I mean. I'm not happy about that, you know
what I mean? So but yeah, go back, we have
that I let one fly. There's y'all y'all know, but yeah,
we don't. We don't know. We haven't seen it, you
know what I mean. We don't even what Darren Fox yet?
You know what did they get? Like what five games

(07:00):
or what was it like, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Five games more than five later six.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Games together and something like that. Yeah, but you know,
we don't know yet. But yeah, hey, pump the brakes
a little bit first. That's this doesn't mean I'm saying
I'm a hater, just saying like, hey, calm down, you
know what I mean, and let us let us go
into this next season healthy to see what wait yoah.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And that's the thing with you know, the lockdown comments
coming on and people attacking me. And by the way,
I'm gonna reiterate because I did do it on all
sweep the league recently. I'm gonna say it again. If
you don't have enough balls to come at me without
using a burner account, then just don't even come at me.
I don't respond to anybody that has a burner unless

(07:46):
you can prove to me you're not a burner account.
If you don't have the balls, if you don't have
the set of tits to come at me on your
own account so that way I can face you face
to face on stuff, then don't bother and don't DM dude.
I got literally that was like I really wish I
knew where you worked because I would go, what are
you gonna do? For real? Right, you're gonna call my

(08:08):
boss and say, well, he doesn't think Wemby's generational, so
you probably should fire him. That is the most childish
shit I've ever seen, I've ever heard. So, yeah, if
you don't have enough balls to come at me, you know,
with your own Twitter account, X account, YouTube account, whatever,
take a high, bro, That's what I'm saying. But on
the generational thing, my biggest point was, you don't know

(08:35):
what generational is majority of the time until the player
is at the end of his career and you look back,
like Jesus Christ. For me, I've said Kareem and Mike
are the two guys. I'm like, yeah, that they're generational
for me. And that goes to the other point. Your
generational guys are different, My generational guys are. There's no

(08:57):
list that's the same. But people get so pissed off
because my list doesn't match your list. So you're mad
and I don't know anything. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Spurst generational was different. They look back, and they looked
back at David Robinson, Tim Duncan you know stuff like that?
They were like, wow, yeah, we never saw anything here
in San Antonio. You know, we never saw anything like that,
so it's cool. But yeah, you're you're absolutely right. Nobody's
list is gonna be the same and stuff like that.

(09:29):
But there are some When you talk about generational, I
think it even branches out, you know what I mean stuff?
You know, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and
throw this out, Rudy. You know, since since you brought
since you brought it up, you say, Michael Jordan, generational
whatever it is, and that who brought out the baggy shorts.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, I mean that was Michigan's Fab five.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
But who did they copy it off of? It was
Michael Jordan. Yeah, Generational before everybody was wearing the nuhuggers
and stuff like that. You know what I mean, they're
making a comeback, another branch of generational.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
They're making a comeback. Well, and that's the thing with Mike.
Mike brought I mean the shoe deals. I mean it
all started with my Now, Converse had Bird and Magic
and these guys, and they were good. They were going.
Doctor j was a part of Converse. I want to
say George gervin Converse, but I think he was with
Nike for a little bit there. I mean, but it

(10:30):
didn't blow up until Mike had his own brand, and YadA, YadA, YadA.
So there's so many things you look at for a
generational and you know it. It's it's just the list, man. Nobody,
Nobody should get pissed off. I mean, if you told
me your list and for me spurs fans I consider. Now,

(10:52):
when I say I consider, I'm like, I can, I
can put them in there, Timmy, David, those guys I
can consider generational. I mean Tim Duncan did something that
probably no player I think will ever come closer to,
no star player will ever come close to doing. And
that's have a five hundred record or winning record in

(11:13):
his entire career. I mean, and then you go back, well,
what makes timmy generational? Is you know that for the
fact five and one in the finals, I mean, the
most dominant power forward to ever play the game. But
then you have the other side of things, man, So generational?

(11:34):
Was Tim Duncan again, don't I hope we don't get
crap for this, But was Tim Duncan well out of
the nineteen year career. Was he the best player in
majority of his career? So ten years out of the
nineteen or whatever. Was Timmy the best player in the

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league for majority of his career? That is an argument.
Now it's not my argument, but that is one argument
that people have when it comes to generational talent. Kareem
had what twelve or so, I mean MVP titles, Jordan
dominated the MVP title. I mean, these guys checked off

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a lot of you know, check a lot of boxes.
But that question comes up with Timmy during his career.
Was he the best player in the NBA for majority
of his career? That is a fair point. And that's
not my question, but that made me think, like, okay,

(12:39):
that's a fair point when it comes to generational talk.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
What's funny you bring that up, Rudy, because you know,
we don't even have to look at ourselves, you know,
and we have our own opinions. But you look at
a lot of NBA former NBA players and they have
spoken on this. I think it was what who was it?
Like people like Bookie Cousins and people make like videos
and stuff. They come on their own podcast and they're like,

(13:04):
if you ain't talking about Timmy top five or whatever
or top six, I don't want to hear it or
something like that, you know what I mean. So you're
hearing it from them people. He's played against people who
are in the league, So I mean, who am I
to argue against them?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah? Yeah, but even their list isn't going to be
one hundred percent agreeable. I mean that's the thing people
argue with players, and I'm like, they played the damn
game like they've.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Played against them.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeahst them. That's the argument I would never ever have. Man,
that's the argument. And it's crazy because we know, we
talked about it all week and I figured, why not
Friday night, Let's just make this a Friday night topic.
And we're going to get more into it because we're
waiting to see if Coach Gio joins in. We're gonna
get to a lot of the Lockdown fan comments and
see what they said. People don't really know pts' you

(13:54):
can't wait for the next appearance for hefe he's coming on.
But you got cook on Low's no cussing on sweeps.
That's why we have the Sister channel. Guys, who are
the top five generational spurs? Before we get that answered,
Coach g O is and there he is. It's Coach

(14:18):
Geo joining sweep the League on a Friday night Coach,
We've got grading the Market's hosts Jacob Eric joining us tonight. Man,
we're kind of cooking early on the generational talk that
was supposed to be towards the end of the show.
But yeah, we kind of got a little started ahead
of time without your man, so apologize for that.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I mean, you still pay me to come, so.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I do I still pause. I still do. I still
do pay you the ni O money to get on
the show, man. But we're gonna get into the YouTube
comments because a lot of YouTube comments came at me
about generational stuff and Wimby and this and that, and
you guys can have y'all's opinion on it. But at
the same time, Geo, we're gonna get to Jeff's question

(15:03):
here in a second of sit this loving that you're
in here, Geo, Geo is generational, Baby, I don't know how.
I don't know how much he's generational. But pay him
to come pause. That's exactly what That's exactly what I said, Man,
We got to pay him to pause.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
There.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Jeff goes back to this, Man, I'm gonna go to
you guys, who are your top five, and I hate
the word. Who are the top five generational Spurs? Now?
I I don't throw generational around. My three biggest generational
guys are I mean, my biggest two are David and Tim,
who I consider generational. What are you guys's top five

(15:47):
generational spurs? Because like I said, I don't throw that
word around very easily. Whoever wants to go first, drop him,
because I know Jeff's already stirring something on Twitter with this.
So whoever wants to go first, by all means geo
you to go.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I mean Tim Duncan. Number one, I mean I don't
think we're gonna argue about that one. Number two David Robinson,
I mean another no brainer. I mean the Spurs were
terrible before he got there and led him to a
second round playoff berth. Now number three, looking through, I'm

(16:30):
gonna go with George Gervin. Rudy, I'm gonna go with
George Gervin. You know the finger roll, the aba, you know,
an icon of his day. Number three, give respect. And
then we got three and four, I mean four and five,

(16:51):
which you guys are too interchangeable, I think, But number
four I'm gonna go with Manob.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, okay, give you.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
A coming over, you know overseas from Argentina. We didn't
really you know, we had vi euro Step. Of course,
flopping was one of his things as well, but he
was ready. But but look, I do think Man's on
this list just because of the kind of international aspect.

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And then the last point is.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
He gonna is he gonna pick him? Let's se if
he picks him?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Here man, it's between Tony and kaw I'm I'm gonna
go with Kawhi Leonard. Oh my god, I'm gonna go
with Kawhi Leonard. Look the final Tony Parker also as well,
but I wanted to spice things up Rudy, so I

(17:54):
went with the unconventional Kawhi Leonard. Why not, Spurs fans
get over it's been a long time.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh god, So yours is Duncan Robinson, Gervin, Manu Kawhi.
Those are your top five Okay for general generational we're
talking generational. Don't get him mixed up. Not top five
all time Spurs. We're talking top five generational. So that's
your generational, Jacob, what do you got? I'm pretty sure
we know.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
One of your he knows he pretty much nailed mine.
I went Timmy David Ice. I was waiting for you
to say that, you know, because Ice plot he came
over here with the team and then, uh, who is it?
I you know what you did? I did? Uh was
surprised by my new Yeah, and that's that was a

(18:47):
great pick. That was a great pick. Yeah. You know
generational here, you know, especially with the euro step and
stuff like that. On my number five. You know, everybody
knows who follows me, they know who I like. But
I was trying to, like, you know, I'm gonna try
to like mix it up a little bit and I'm

(19:09):
just gonna throw this out there or whatever this and that.
You know, I'm just saying it. Everybody knows who I like.
But what about Silas.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Could be? I mean, if again it's your list, it's nobody.
If everybody's gonna argue with you, then I mean they
can go to hell.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I just want to copy. I just don't want to
copy off of Coach Shiels.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You can copy him.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
You can copy another guy, a number five, honorable Alvin Robertson.
I'll throw his name out there.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, that he's on my mount Rushmore. I mean you got.
I mean, for me, Alvin Robertson quadruple double all time.
I mean a steals record that ain't gonna be touched.
Let's be real, it's a single season steals record is
never gonna be touched. If not for what happened in

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outside the basketball court, Alvin Robertson's jersey would be retired
in San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I mean four time defensive or I think what all
first team defense? Rudy, Yeah, I mean, what was the
phenomenal defensive player? You know it's shame went up, but
you know I put Kawhi because look, Finals, MVP champion,
and I know it doesn't have anything to do with
the Spurs, but he did win one with the Raptors.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
That means something, Rudy, come on some respect.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I am not disrespecting him.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
That that was the biggest middle finger to the city
of sach I have ever heard my life. No, I'm
talking about what Kawhi got. That Kawhi got that chip
in Toronto. Okay, he was like, Oh, you're gonna deport me.
You're gonna deport me to Canada. Watch this.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, he was like, I want to go to l
a well, you're gonna have to make a hits the
layover in Toronto and then you can head over to
LA after that. That's pretty much. That's pretty much what
it came down to on that. My my five are
I mean, we're gonna go Timmy obviously, We're gonna go
David obviously, George obviously. I mean scoring title. I mean,

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another reason why the Spurs are still in San Antonio
is because of actually those three guys right there keeping
the Spurs in San Antonio. After that, I mean, you
can throw Kawhi in there because finals MVP brought another
title to San Antonio. You know, but if you go
to the backlash of what he did, and again it's

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crazy that we we baw him and.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
We wait, wait, look, do we blame the Spurs at
all for handling this situation? We have no blame.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I mean there, yeah, it's a two way it's a
two way stream. I mean we've only as Spurs fans,
you only hear and feel one way, and that's that
Kawhi did the city wrong. Will we ever get a
thirty for thirty on this because I want to know

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exactly what happened. I mean, a player is injured, get it.
But remember Pop's like, well, you got to go ask
Kawhi's people, you know, you know you had little subtle Parker.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh, well, I had a worst injury and I played well.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well Tony meant it about Tony all the time, so
let's never be real about that. But again it's it's
because the way Kawhi left. City of San Antonio hates him,
Spurs fans hate him. But we don't know both sides
of the story. We just hear one side. We're just
assuming that it was that bad. So I think I

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would put Tony up there on a generational list because
coming in as a kid, giving the keys to the car,
the keys to the castle, and doing what he did.
You saw the improvement from season to season. He did
have a bad finals run against the Nets, but still
bounce back in the seasons. I mean, let's be real.

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There was one season what he led the league in
scoring in the paint. I mean for a guard at
six to one to do that when you've got the
likes of Timmy Shack a lot of other guys, that
shows a part of generational there for San Antonio. The
last four, you know, the fifth one is.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
In the air right now. I know I can't. I
can feel it all the way down on my plumps.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I want to say, I want to say Kawhi, but
I don't really want to because I don't think he
would here long enough to kind of get that generational
I guess, you know title for me, it's Alvin or
it's Manu. I look at the bigger impact. That is

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the tough part. Manu made a huge impact for San
Antonio during this whole ninth you know, this whole playoff
run that they had, the streak. Alvin made the team
more noticeable. I guess in that time with what he did,
I'm gonna go with Manu only because of the run

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that they had during that time. That was a generational
run for the San Antonio Spurs. I mean, very tough
for teams to do that over what nineteen years or so,
twenty years or something. So those are my top five
right there. Great question by Jeff Garcia. Here he says,
what about Keenan. Now see Larry Keenan doesn't make top five.

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I mean it's top ten, but he's definitely not top five.
More comments, Manu is my Spurs goat great flopper hero
Stepper team player. Should Alvin Robertson be on the generational
Spurs list? I think he's five A. I think he's
up there, five B, right around five A five B.
I don't have any issues that. Why does TP get

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jobs so much on San Antonio Great Great list? Often
like he gets overlooked, but his resume is Hall of
Fame worthy. I mean, you can't really diss Tony Parker.
I mean he I know I did, but let me
ask you a while back to you and Jacob, I
went on Twitter obviously because that's where all the shit happens,

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and somebody had posted that Tony Parker is better than
Steve Nash and I said, no, there's I don't have
Tony better. The reason being that they picked him, I
think was because of a finals MVP that Tony had.
So my back part on my back on that was, well,

(26:04):
Steve's what two time MVP.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Of the league.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean, do we really hold final MVP at high precedents?
Because Geo, if you're on the Spurs, you know, I'm
not even gonna pick on you. If my fat ass
is playing for the Bulls and we're in the finals
and I go on a magical finals run, averaging twenty
nine a game, eight assist the game, YadA YadA, yah.

(26:30):
But my season average is fifteen points, three or four
assists the game. But I dominated the finals. Does that
hold more water than anything else that I get a
Finals MVP knowing that I andre iguodald it the entire
time and got me a Finals MVP because I played

(26:51):
really well in you know, the finals. How much water
does that hold?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
You know?

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Basketball is a team sport, right, so the other factors
that are in play. Obviously, Tony had a great series
against uh, what was it Cleveland back in the day. Yeah,
I think it does. But Steve did have two MVPs.
Now I do think Shack should have got one of them.
But we can talk about that a different day. If
you ask me, Rudy, this is tough because I do

(27:22):
think they're obviously talented. They could score, they can assist. Oh,
Tony was probably more of a score type of a
point guard than necessarily just averaging like thirteen to fourteen assists.
Give me Steve Nash. I think Tony was great, phenomenal
the tear drop right, you can get in the paint.
But I think just Steve Nash is just a bit

(27:44):
different and they could have won if it wasn't maybe
for Robert RRE's cheap shot at the end of that game.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Worth it.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Agree, Yeah, I think Tony Parker was just a little
bit flashier, like Coach Gio said, he brought up the
tear drop or whatever, and also maybe that spin move
when he would get inside the paint. Man, that was
a thing of beauty, bro, you know what I mean.
And it just seemed like people could stop it and
being six to one, but he could just get by everybody.

(28:21):
It was cool. But yeah, with Steve Nash, he was
just different. Yeah, there's just you had to be there
in order to like watch it. Steve Nash was I
guess maybe like more of a if you look up
point guard in the dictionary, you could maybe see a
picture of him kind of something like that. But yeah, man,

(28:43):
but I don't know. I think that's just my opinion.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, And that's the thing is, I don't think I
hold a finals MVP. It's more of like if you're
gonna come at me and say, well Tony is better
and this and that. The reason why is because he
has a finals MVP. He Okay, but I mean, it's weird, man,
It's so weird because Derek Gervin Hill hold he says

(29:09):
finals MVPs, I mean the world, And I said, well,
I mean I can understand that, but when I look
at it, it's like, well, but you're only good during
a series. Anybody can get lucky, anybody, you know, anybody
can play good in a series. So how much weight
does it really hold? And then it's like, well, you've

(29:29):
got you know, Andrea Iguidala, you know this and that,
and I'm like, okay, but I mean again, how is
Nash not better than Tony Parker at the end of
the day that if you put Steve Nash on the
Spurs during that timeframe, are we really saying they're not

(29:49):
going to win a title?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
They would have did some damage. Bro, They still would
have did some damage that.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Would have been massive.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh yeah, they they would have won a championship.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about that. We're talking
to Jacob Arrett Graating, the market host of Greating in
the Market Coach g a host of Sweep the League,
and uh yeah, man, you know it's just a lot
of talk. That's our generational guys. I got I got
some comments that we're gonna get into here because we're
on the second half of the show right now. Shout

(30:22):
out to MCS General Contracting, BROP, sponsors of Sweep the League,
and it's weird. Is I'm gonna have to get on
sith Man. The guy took off the sponsor logo, Like,
what the hell? I just noticed that? Right now? Come on, man,
come on, he's fired, dude, he's fired. At least locked
on says if least stayed longer, would Strickland be among
the greatest San Antonio Spurs point guards? Rod Strickland, Man,

(30:44):
Rod Strickland is a legend. I don't care. I don't
care about it. Behind the back pass that cost the
Spurs a final strip, you know, back in the day.
But Rod Strickland's a legend. The guy, I where would
you put Rod Man? Where would Rod go? Now? Spurs
point guards? I'm gonna piss more people off. I have

(31:08):
him above Avery, even though every hit a game winning
shot in the finals. He's way above Avery Johnson above him?
Do you put him higher than Johnny Moore? I don't
think he's higher than James Silas and Tony Parker, obviously,
But is he higher than Johnny Moore.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Rod Trickle was underrated Gary when you talk about he, man,
if you go put the tape on, very underrated part
of a good Spurs team that first kind of playoff
run Rudy, Maybe if he's there ninety five they beat
the Rockets. I don't know. I mean, obviously Keem was
on a totally different level, as we can clearly watch videos.

(31:53):
But Rod Strickland he could pass you shop. I mean,
he could do a little bit of everything, and it
just he just wasn't there long. It just wasn't there
long enough. You know, It's like it's a little blimp.
You saw obviously glimpses. He had a pretty good NBA career,
but man, what what could have been if he's there
for ten years. He's definitely probably potential on this. Obviously,

(32:18):
his his ceiling was probably capped. But yeah, such a
good player, And there are a lot of guys like
that that just for whatever reason had good games but
just wasn't around the league. And we could look all
across the league of the nineties where we see guys
where man like if you just would have still a
little bit longer, right, if he just could have had
a few more chances been up there.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, should have been, should have been? I mean, how again,
Rod Strickland is so very underrated man, very underrated. I
mean some of the shots that he would make, you know,
up and unders and everything. The guy doesn't get a
whole lot of love and doesn't get a whole lot

(33:02):
of mention when it comes to San Antonio third best
point guard in Santonio history. Could he make the case
for that?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Now?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
This is pre dearon Fox, pre Harper, pre this is
all pre that.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I mean, I mean, he's better than Averd Johnson. Was
Vinnie what what was he?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Was?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
He a shooting guard? Ready, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Vinny Vinnie was a shooting guard? Yeah, pretty, he's.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Ill say probably yeah, I would probably say yes, I
add the look at the list, but off the top
of my head he is probably he's probably the third.
I mean, who I might be missing someone? Speedy Clock said,
I mean, I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I don't know, like he can't do speedy That was
like one year man.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh yeah, no, no, I know, I know. It's just
like I'm trying to go way back. I'm not as
old as you already, so I can only go so back.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
But wow, thanks appreciate that. That's that that that got
me in both of them right there too. Appreciate that.
Oh my god, dude, I'm looking at a comment that
I didn't even I didn't even know I got on YouTube.
We're gonna, you know, let's step into these comments, man.
So I post I got some comments here that I
was able to copy and paste. The rest of them

(34:25):
are so long that I can't. I can't put them
on there. So all right, that's uh, can we do Yeah,
let's do a little thing here. Let's do the Rudy rant.
I know I've got that somewhere here, so we can
we can kick this off Friday. It is Coach Gio,
it is Jacob Barrick of gritting the Market. It's time
for the Lockdown comments, all right. So these comments are

(34:53):
coming from the episode of Lockdown Spurs called who needs
to level Up Now? I I'll be honest, I don't
remember what the hell I said and all that stuff,
so don't come at me for that.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I record the episodes with Jeff, but I don't ever
remember half the time. Anyway. So this is the thing.
Here's one of the comments from there, and it comes
in from at Fluffhead twenty three was ten days ago.
When did Rudy become a wimby hater? He said he
is not generational. Give me a break. The guy is
constantly negative. Wemby is just now the age Duncan was

(35:28):
when he entered I'm gonna finish it up here. Let's
see when he entered the league. He already has an
All Star Game under his belt and is the best
defender in the league. He is the definition of a
generational player. Rudy is an idiot, so shout out to

(35:52):
at Fluffhead twenty three. So that's one comment there. I'm
a wimby hater, an idiot apparently, which I did. I
did respond to that, and I said, you know, we
can do without the name calling. You know, you don't
have to call me an idiot or whatever. But again
it goes along the point of your opinion is different

(36:12):
from my opinion. But the common denominator is the word opinion,
because I don't consider a player generational and you do.
Which these other comments I'm sorry to read him now,
like holy cow, they I really pissed off people. And
one guy even said GEO that I'm only making these
comments because nobody listens to sweep the league. That's that

(36:36):
that I mean, I'm gonna go on a little rant
on that in a minute. What do you think about
Fluffhead's comments, guys, I mean, if my wouldn't be hitter
just because I don't say he's generational.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Geo, you can go because I had already touched on
that at the beginning of the show.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah he did did.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Well, look, I mean, mister Fluffhead, I get what he's
coming from. I'm not with the hey comments. But the
thing about Wemby is, and what I've always said Rudy
is I think he has the potential. Yeah, I think
he has some generational talent blocking shots, shoot too many threes,

(37:15):
by shooting threes, you know, defense, just doing things from
a night to night base where you're like, dude, how'd
he like do that three sixty, you know, block, whatever
the case may be. I think the talent is there.
What we ever see that peak is yet to be determined.
So whenever I've said generation, I said he has generational talent,

(37:35):
Well we fully see that. I don't know now Ruddy's
coming off as a hay. I don't think Ruddy's a hater.
He's just saying it like it is. And Wemby, I
will say, Riddy, he was young coming into this league.
I get it. Duncan was polished. I mean, the man
spent four years at wake Forest. David went to Navy obviously,

(37:59):
then went to actual in the Navy, had a wait
till he came to the NBA, like these guys all
spent four years. So it might seem like Riddy's hard
or maybe strong opinion on Wimby, but I think already
is just reacting to what he's just seeing. And at
this point Wemby's not there. And I told Riddy, I

(38:22):
think he has an identity crisis. I think there's a
little bit of identity crisis going on here when this
guy's what seven four where seven to five? Just standing
by the three point line. Dude, go to the paint,
I mean SGA as we've seen lives and that little
circle there right in the middle there with two points.

(38:42):
James Harden made a living there, Westbrook make a living there.
And then of course you can go ahead and shoot
your threes because the analytics are just ruining the game.
But no, Reddy, I'm completely you know, Yeah, everybody. Let's
say crazy things like Daniel Jones is better than Kyler Murray.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Kyler Murray, I think Kyler.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Murray's He's also going to say.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Some he's great, say off win than Kyler Murray too.
By the way, well.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Look even a bro clock is right twice. But anyway,
this guy's wrong just in general. I think I don't
think he understands you.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Rudy. Well, apparently nobody watches the fucking show, so they're
not gonna understand me. Obviously, according to one comment, which
I guarantee once that guy, I'm not gonna know. I'm
not gonna pull ten ninety nine's and show anybody pay
stubs or anything, but I will pull the views on
here for you know, everybody on Lockdown that comes says, well,
Rudy says dumb shit because nobody watches Sweep the League. Bullshit.

(39:44):
I can prove all the numbers are there on that
sense and say, oh hey, you know these are the
views that we get. People do watch and they're not fake.
By the way, sofy I shout out to that fluff
head out there, we got the next one man. So
just coming from at Pete thirteen eighty one, sweep the
league TV. What I gotta read there? What more do
you want from the kid? He was in MVP conversations

(40:04):
before he was old enough to drink. How is that
not generational? So apparently because Wimby can't gamble and drink,
but yet he's an MVP candidate, that makes him generational.
So okay, now what GEO said earlier? I made statements

(40:28):
before Robinson four years, Duncan four years, people were saying,
and I told the guy, I said, hey, David's numbers
are better than Wimby's rookie numbers. And then it got
into well, David didn't shoot threes at the percentage Wimby
did his rookie year. Wemby averaged more assist than David
did his rookie year. So if you factor it all in,

(40:51):
then Weinby had the better stat line. I mean, it
was all, dude, it was all Albert Einstein bullshit. Like
I was like, okay, whatever, I accepted.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
David was the guy. I mean that he was the guy.
He was scoring I mean rebounds and different eras. I
don't even want to talk about that era where every
night you're playing a big man like it could be
Mark e and it could be not necessarily guarding Carmelone,
but Carmelole is in the paint too. Likes, it's just

(41:19):
ridiculous to say, well, the assists and numbers David led
the at that time really the greatest single season turnaround
in NBA history. Yes, was that Spurs team?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Well, and that's part of generational for me, like what
impact do you have? And that's the thing I've not
once said anywhere, any show, locked on, anywhere, I have
not once said that Wemby could not be generational. I mean,
my example is, yo kick. He didn't come in the

(41:51):
league generational. Nobody knew what Jokick was coming into the league.
Now you've got him being talked about as knocking on
the door. Kareem abdul Jabbar one of the greatest, if
not the greatest centers of all time. That would surely
make him a generational player at this point. So I've
never once said Wemby cannot be generational. He can be.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Quick.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Question Rudy at their peak, and I mean we're talking
Wemby is dominating games, Joker at his peak. Who do
you think would have the better career if they both
essentially are at their peak and Wenby's doing just some

(42:38):
crazy things. Who do you think kind of wins the
talk of those two.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Hands down at their peak in their prime, bust it.
I'm gonna go with Wemby, and I'm gonna tell you why,
because both guys can play on the offensive side of
the game. But where Wemby separated himself from Yo Kick
is on the defensive side. Yokick is not a great defender.

(43:06):
He can block shots, he can move, but Wimby is quicker,
has better recovery. So I would say, in their peak
and their prime, I go with m I go with
Victor wiman Yama. He's the only one out of the
two that can be m v P and Defensive Player
of the Year.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
And I think that's what fans are in San Antonio
are kind of peaking towards if his peak, which we
have not seen. We have not seen the peak. We
see glimpses where it's like, do you had ten blocks
in a game? You know what I'm saying, Like we've
seen glimpses. But I really hope and I hope he
stays healthy because Rita, I think his career is going

(43:44):
to take off, and.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
But is there going to be a peak. That's that's
that's that's the question. That's why I was kind of
leaning towards Joker, and I was like, you know what,
I kind of would have. I know, I'm gonna get
back last for this, but I'll go for Joker, you
know what I mean, Like, I would go with Joker
because we've had two years with Wemby. He hasn't done
a full season. We know the history of seven six seven, seven,

(44:12):
seven eight, whatever the two one zero wants to say
how tall he is now, They usually don't last long,
you know, And I'm not I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm just throwing it out there.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, say this.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I mean his Wimby's that line was pretty good. I
mean it's yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
It was MVP caliber.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
What's the best ability availability.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Availability, which you can't could You can't really blame him
for a blood clot. I mean, that's something that can
happen at any point to anybody, whether you're seven foot
six or you know, five foot three like Muggsy Bogues.
I mean, it could happen anywhere. So what I'll say
is year two Wimby MVP caliber season. Unfortunately, blood clod happened.

(45:02):
Then he's okay. I think season three is where you
start to see, Okay, is he gonna get to that point?
Is he gonna be the dominant player that everyone is expecting?
And I guarantee you if he does, You're gonna hear
a lot of people, Well, oh, here comes Rudy talking
about he's generational. Now, I will not give anybody a

(45:25):
generational title until the end of their career. I you
fucking Jeremy Lynn was generational for twenty games.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Already, come on that. But that that was just more
of a New York kind of But.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
When they could, when they could balance himself on a boulder. Now, So.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I mean, Rudy, he he got twenty four. Yeah, Jacob,
where do you see him points wise this season as
you go up to twenty eight, twenty seven? Or did
he kind of stay within the same kind of because
Fox is.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Gonna yeah, I mean yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
No, yeah, the Fox is gonna take the ball a
lot too, now, like that's something that we need to
really also hone in. Is that Fox also high volume guy?

Speaker 1 (46:20):
So m yeah, no, I agree that, you know Fox?
And then with Castle, and you know, we do have
a lot of good players on there, and there's only
one ball, So I kind of I want to say
it's gonna drop a little bit, and I wouldn't be
surprised if it does. And I actually you don't wantn't
be angry if it does, because it means that they're

(46:41):
playing a little bit more team basketball. And know also,
we got to wait and see what kind of system
Mitch is gonna go ahead and throw in there, because
last year I'm not fully convinced that that was Mitch
Johnson's system that he was running. I'm pretty I kind
of feel like that was pop system. So we have
to wait see what what is Mith's gonna do? You

(47:03):
know what I mean? Who else? Maybe he does tell
Wenby to go down to the paint. I seriously doubt it,
but you know what I mean. But if he was
to do that, what would happen?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I honestly, this is what it comes down to. Gio
brought up a magnificent point. Does Winby go up in points?
Does he stay around twenty four? Knowing you have a
full season of Fox, Fox is gonna get you what eighteen? Roughly?
I mean? Is that kind of what we're thinking eighteen
a game.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I'll say twenty two.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Maybe twenty two, Okay, So then Stefan Castle is probably
gonna get a bumping point. So you're looking at maybe
around he was at twelve, maybe fifteen sixteen. You got
those shots. You bring in Dylan Harper, who is gonna
get some shots up as well. You've got guys like
Keldon and Devin who are very very offensive oriented. They

(47:58):
are really you know, offense of guys. So you brought
up a magnificent point. Is there gonna be enough shots
for women to get to that twenty eight point per
game average that most people say? Now, if Joe, if
he gets to twenty four to twenty three, ten eleven
boards a game, three blocks a game, does that piss

(48:21):
off Spurs fans because I mean, are you really going
to say their generation? Is he generational?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Then?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I mean where's the argument? What what does he have
to do or what if he does less? What if
he averages twenty one, nine and two? I mean, what
if the averages drop but the Spurs are winning.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
That's the expectation.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, way, winning does, but the expectations I mean, as
soon as this kid came out, what do we hear.
I mean, I don't live in San Antonio, but I
can only imagine what the talk was.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It was generation rational, right, that was the one word.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
And I feel bad for the cause I think he's played.
If you look at Statlan's like, well, all right, he's
actually played probably better then maybe if he was just
an you know, some guy off the street right from
some random university. Having those stats, we're like, hey, that
guy's actually playing pretty good. But when By people are
expecting I mean, look, if he goes from twenty four,

(49:24):
I mean he has to be the main piece or already.
But the but the thing is, I don't know where
the system's going to be, right, so we don't know
is women going to be in I mean, if women's
in the post, that's going to be great. You can
move the ball, But then you're you got fox Castle.
Someone's gonna have to sacrifice. And Spurs fans we've seen

(49:46):
that Managinobi. I mean really, he could have started for
most or every team in this league, but he chose
to be a six man. So as a Spur we've
seen the past kind of sacrifice and I don't think
it should be winby, But I mean we'll see that.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
You know, Spurs mean Spurs winning cures all and I
get that. And that's the thing is like, okay, well
what if he drops in points in production but they're winning.
It's like always still going to be pissed off because
he's not, you know, he's not being this generational talent

(50:29):
that people say that that there's no win in Spurs Twitter.
It's always lose lose. I mean, that's the problem. It's
always lose lose. Man got more comments in here, facts
and pizza Ali says he needs in those second because
he got cooked too, yeah, or he got cooked a lot.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
More banners coming up here. The next one is at
sweep the league and I gotta figure where this one is.
But this is kind of where it is. A generational
player is someone who came into the league and immediately
made an impact. Wemby fits that category. Hens as a rookie,
there's an argument and I got it right here. So
there's an argument to be made that he should have

(51:08):
won Defensive Player of the Award and second year he
certainly was going to win. Lebron as a rookie didn't
make any impact right away. I don't know about that,
and y'all consider him generational. I don't say that about Lebron. Now,
Wemby is generational. You guys are tripping. The kid improves
every year. Steph Curry. It took him four years because

(51:29):
all of those ankle injuries, So come.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
On, stop it. Lebron is generational.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I mean, let's why should I Why should I throw
that word around? I'm being honest. I'm mean, dead serious.
I don't throw that word around lightly.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Ruddy, I think you're undercutting what he's done in this league.
He is a generational player because a defensively in his prime, defensively,
I mean, he was a pretty defender.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I consider him. There's there's a difference. I consider him
a generational talent. I really do. I mean, you know
that's my argument. I consider him your opinion.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
But he's the all time leading scorer, and I get it, well,
he's played the longest look for eight he's the all
time leading score in this league. He passed a record
that we really didn't think was going to be broken.
Now is Michael Jordan. I think Jordan's third on that list,
maybe or fourth. I don't know. Jordan was more. Yeah,

(52:35):
Jordan was more impressive because he didn't shoot threes and
he didn't have a free lay up line.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
But he's the all time leading score defensively in his prime.
Pretty good, He's won championships. I do think Lebron and
you know me ready, I am not a Lebron. I
am not even Lebron sexual as some people are. And
I'm giving Lebron his flowers. I do think is but
obviously now in his career defensively he has completely and

(53:04):
I mean skyfrockets at the bottom. I mean that guy
doesn't play eighty defense well.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And okay, so this is my thing, and this is
the high. This is the reason why I say I
consider like I consider David generational, I consider Duncan, I
consider Bron. I consider a lot of players generational. There's
a difference for me between consider them and guaranteed in
my own eyes, there generational. Where I look at Lebron

(53:30):
as this, you're right, all time leading scorer, YadA yah,
great defensive player in his prime, geo, you know, multi
time All Star, multi time All NBA whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.
And you know what, I don't even blame him for
going to Miami. I that's like That's like me saying, well,

(53:51):
I'm not gonna go to another workplace and get more
money and better opportunities to be successful. Why shouldn't I
expect Lebron to do it? So I backed off on
the Big Three thing. That's his choice. Anybody can make
it for all we Hey, we said it before. Tim
Duncan was damn near gone from San Antonio. He would

(54:14):
have got the Kawhi treatment from San Antonio because he
was gone. If not for Glenn doc Rivers shit in
the bed, he was gone, we would have had no
more Timmy. So I don't blame Lebron for that. When
I look at Lebron, is this the game of basketball?
And this is my argument only the game of basketball

(54:39):
got predominantly worse in the Lebron era.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
But Verdy, we can't blame him.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I mean, look again, I don't blame him, but is
it happened in his era?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Man, Hey, listen basketball IQ and to me, one of
the great passers. I think he can pass the ball
with the best of them, the IQ and also pretty
the culture of the game. I think you're undercutting what
he's he's done in this league. As I said earlier,
no Lebron fan. I think Jordan's the go and will

(55:13):
forever be the go. But the IQ, the passing, the defense,
anything else, the culture, all that stuff combined. I just
think he's a generational player.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I agree. You know what. I'm not a big fan
of Lebron James myself, but you know, sometimes when I
talk with or back in the day, I guess you
could say, like during his prime whatever, when I looked
at Lebron or whatever, It's like, they're going to the playoffs.
They're going to the player at the minimum, at the minimum,

(55:42):
whatever team he was on, that's what it was. They're
going to the playoffs. Look at Winby. Okay, let me,
I'm gonna get back last for this one too, you
know what I mean. But you're into two one? Oh?
You know what I mean? Has has Wenby taken this
burst to the player? I know it's only a year.
Two No, do you think it's gonna happen next year? Well?
Maybe wait and see. But you know, Lebron there was

(56:05):
his fan right there for a while where you knew
that if you had Lebron James, you were at the
minimum going to the playoffs, simple as that.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
What took him two years. I think for Lebron to
make the playoffs in Cleveland, I'll take it to go
on and again that's the argument. It's like, Okay, Rudy
doesn't call him generational now, I mean, it doesn't mean
he's never gonna be generational. And this whole guy with
the Lebron thing, you know this, this guy's comment was

(56:38):
big time. You know, it was everything else because it
was like, well, Lebron as a rookie didn't make any
impact right away. Lebron was must see TV. He was
freaking Caitlyn Clark the moment he stepped on an NBA court.
So he may not have had an impact on Cleveland's
record and get to the playoffs right away, but he

(56:58):
had an impact on the lead. Everybody wanted to see
Lebron James, so that is an impact. And then y'all
can say, and we consider him generational again, I love it.
I consider Lebron generational. You know, he checks every box
with the exception of a couple for me, So I
would put him in the generational talk. I would consider it.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
You gotta remember, too, Lebron James's high school games weren't
they like coming, like on coming, out like on ESPN
and something like that, Like it was unheard of, you
know what I mean, Like we knew we were introduced
to Lebron James, you know, before he hadn't even made
the league, you know what I mean. It was It
was weird. It was interesting, but it was weird because

(57:43):
I think, like, yeah, because he was in high school,
we had never seen anything like that, and then what
uh he had to like cover up. It was kind
of it was cool because he had to like cover
up his tattoos or do something like that, you know
what I mean. Like there was like all kinds of
rules that came into play that we didn't know about.
It was like, man, I want to I want to
see that, but now I love them. I love it

(58:06):
was awesome seeing him wearing that Irish uniform.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Like my goodness, I gotta get to this one too.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna try to read this because
I think the guy was drunk when he typed this out.
He brings up seven fosters, which probably should be footers
who can shoot, but not those who are seven foot
six that can shoot past, dribble, defend, post up, be

(58:32):
a high volume score, and have the agility as well
as athleticism as him. I hate when people try to
be contrarians and not make sense doing it. So I
bring up seven footers who can shoot. Obviously, you know
derk Nowitzki. You know a couple other guys yoga can shoot, too,

(58:55):
but none there're seven to six, So okay, I have
yet to see a seven foot six guy shoot dominantly
from the three point line. I still haven't, Sorry, Wemby,
I haven't seen a consistent three point shooter at seven
foot six. I don't know if he can post up

(59:16):
because he doesn't spend a lot of time in the paint,
so I know he can. But I did say if
you can't dominate the one area you're supposed to, that
does affect you for me. Now defend check mark, dribble
check mark for a seven foot six guy. I'm surprised
he doesn't get the boss sold as much as he should.

(59:38):
But I give him a check passing check mark. He
averages what three assisted game? That's perfect. I'm good with that.
A high volume scoer twenty four points a game. If
he's that good of a shooter and should dominate in
the post. He's not a high volume scorer at twenty

(59:59):
four points game. Geo, you even have said that he
should be right around to twenty eight twenty nine pointy
game thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Oh yeah, he should. At his height and his ability,
he should be a twenty eight twenty thirty. Now, look
when we bring up Duncan and Robinson and their rookie
years and what they did, and I mean, look, it
was a different league. Really good role players with the
Spurs in year one and women did not have. So

(01:00:32):
maybe we're a little slightly harsh to a certain extent,
but look, if you want that title, you got to
earn it. And I'm really hoping this is the year
that Winby comes out of the gate throughout this season
swinging it. I mean really, if he averages thirty a game,
I mean that would be pretty massive. And but I

(01:00:56):
just don't know what this. I don't know what the
Spurs have yet. We got to see this training camp,
but we gotta just kind of wait and see. Really
does that know? As we could do? We could talk
about football, though.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Oh we're gonna talk about We'll talk more about football.
Even with the Bradley Beald deal for the Clippers, I'm
on record, I still have the Spurs top six in
the West. Right at six, I mean that puts them
into playoffs. So apparently I don't hate the damn team
as much as people think I do. I mean, I've

(01:01:27):
got him top six. I'm not changing my stance on
that right now. They upgraded everything they need to upgrade,
so that's why I got them. There a couple more.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
I wish we would have saw a little a little
more splash. The two guys we got were okay, well no,
I mean like during free agency.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Oh gotcha? Gotcha? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
It was very vanilla, if you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Rudy, we got Apex in here. We'll get this into
Jacob Bergers, well start off here. This is the thing
you'll never know a player is slash wiz generational until
the career is done or at its peak. I've already
said that a true fan rides the hype until he's
proven wrong. A diehard fan rides it even when he's

(01:02:18):
proven wrong. There is already negativity and skepticism of Wemby
in different parts of the Internet. When I come to
a Spurs podcast, I expect a safe place where they
glaze our players, not more of the same thing. So
Apex wants to come to Locked On because it's a
safe place and you shouldn't talk bad about the Spurs

(01:02:41):
because there's so much about that on the internet. Fuck
that I am on Locked On Spurs to talk my piece,
to make sure that I give my best every time
Jeff calls me and says I need you to do
a Locked On Spurs. If you want a safe space,
you've got to find another part there. Because I'm sorry

(01:03:03):
you haven't made the playoffs in a while. I'm sorry
the team prior to this one coming up this season
hasn't been good. But guess what, it's probably gonna be
a safe space now because I expect them to make
the playoffs. I haven't been top six. A healthy Spurs
team is a scary Spurs team. They've done everything right, Jacob,

(01:03:26):
Is it a safe space that I mean? It's like you,
I want to come here because I want positive talk,
positive talk, positive talk. I give more positive talk than
I do negative on Lockdown Spurs Crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I talked about this man at the beginning of the show.
You know what I mean, You're never, You're never. You're
always gonna get tomatoes thrown at you no matter what
you say. You know, they're gonna have people to agree
with you, disagreeing with you and stuff like that. You
just got to be prepared to answer. Whether it's on
X you know, Facebook, whatever kind of social media that

(01:03:59):
you jump on and stuff like that. It's always fine
at the end of the day and stuff like that.
But yeah, at the you know, we we all forget.
And here in San Antonio here into two one. Oh.
You know Spurs fans, they're huge Spurs fans. And where
does fans The words fans comes from fanatics, fanatics, you

(01:04:21):
know what I mean? We all know that the origin
of that's that a word from so but yeah, you're
never gonna escape it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, Spurs fans are pretty close to cowboy fans. Holy
cow man. That that's the honest I got true. They
got one more and this is it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
After this we're with you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yeah, yeah, well we got one more than this is it.
I have to actually put this on the screen because
it's so it's kind of crazy. And then Gio, I
have a I have a prediction at the end of
this show here that I want to talk to you
about here. So here it is, I'm gonna make it
big up here, and it's gonna be let me highlighted,
and it's not here. It's listen right here, here we

(01:04:56):
go at the Hoopster. Not general rational compos You're only
saying you're not being torn apart because no one's watching
your show. This is exactly why San Antonio has some
of the worst podcasters around. Wemby not generational, but yet

(01:05:17):
call yourself a generational podcaster. I fucking am please. He
bashes Wemby like, acts like Spurs fans don't know basketball,
and paints himself is the only one with the real insight.
I've been watching the Spurs since nineteen seventy seven. Good
for you, every era, every player, every game. Wemby is generational.

(01:05:40):
Damn it can't believe I wasted time on this nonsense.
You would have had me all mad and stuff if
you wouldn't have put LOO at the end. You just
ruined the entire post. Are putting l at the end.
So I'm I'm coming back on this because you're right,
san Antonio has shitty podcasters. We're all crap. I mean,
every podcast Antonio is terrible. I'm gonna say that right now.

(01:06:03):
So yeah, just don't pay attend to any podcast in
San Antonio. That's your fault for wasting your time. Wemby
not generational, but I call I am a generational podcaster.
The reason why I do it is because I picked
on Wimby and all that stuff. I bash Wimby. Never
did bash Wimby. I act like Spurs fans don't know basketball.
I've never said that in my life. I don't ever downgrade, downplay.

(01:06:23):
I don't ever say anything bad about people when they
talk basketball to me and they're serious about it. And
I paint myself as the only one with real insight.
I don't have any real insight at all. I just
I study the game. I talk to professional NBA players,

(01:06:44):
one of them I talk to daily. So I mean,
if I don't know anything, you would think they probably
wouldn't talk to me about it. But I don't have
any real insight. This is the comment that just makes
me think, Okay, we got a bunch of of degenerates
out here just saying whatever they want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Gio.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
You're you've been a part of this since like twenty
what sixteen with me on Sweep the League twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
What are your.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Response to that? Listen, we just we're finally gonna get
you to cuss. I mean, you haven't cust him in
ninety ten years earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
We call it like it is. Listen, We'll talk about
our own teams on here all the time. We talk
about the Rams all the time, and Sean mcvay's sometimes
just you know, I'm gonna talk about him right now,
But I'm just saying, like we we're real. We talk
about our teams. If they're doing great, they're doing great,
they're doing bad. Hey, y'all gotta play better. And Wemby

(01:07:45):
is not at this point a generational player. I think
he has the talent to be, as Rudy says, considered whatever, Yes,
he has it. We need to see his peak. I
mean we need to see where that is championship deep
playoff runs. Because listen, if we'll be averages twenty four
for the next eight years but doesn't make the playoffs,

(01:08:08):
I mean, is that generational? No, it is not. That's
a good player. That's Kevin Love before he went to Cleveland.
But that's all that is, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Damn you perfect example, if he averages with Kevin Love
averaged or better, but they never make the playoffs. Is
that generational? Now they're gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
I mean I would have I would assume so with
Fox and them. But we call it like it is,
and people just want to be just you know, baby fit. Hey,
this is a great Spurs team. Wimby's great at all.
This is great. It's not I'm telling you right now.
Already when I went to that game here in Indiana

(01:08:56):
when the Pacers play the Spurs in Wimby's first year,
and the Spurs lost almost fifty I think over fifty points,
and you're sitting back and you're wondering, dude, this is
not generational at this point. I mean, Wemby's getting boxed
out by little I mean I don't see the little people,
but like smaller guys. And the impact is his impact

(01:09:21):
is not there yet, right Lebron's impact right, great, he's
averaging almost the same, but Lebron's impact isn't the same
that it was like ten years ago, right, Like, it's
just it's not the same anymore. So Wemby's impact, we're
not seeing it enough. And you're also not in the playoffs.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
You know what, I'll even add on that I'll be like,
just because we're not seeing it, we're waiting for it,
you know what I mean, We're pumping the brakes. You know,
we're not that when we say, hey, he's not generational
or something like that or reason that. We're not saying
it in a bad way. We're just like, hey, let's
pump the brakes. Let's wait, let's see what happens, you

(01:10:01):
know what I mean, Like I said, let's see what
we got. And especially this coming up here, you know,
like a what for the first two years, what we're
Spurs fans or you know, you know, yeah, I guess
Spurs fans who were all screaming, they were like, oh,
we did nothing prepare for to prepare for Wemby, did
nothing to prepare for Wenby. We did not surround him
with anything. Well, now you know what, they're starting to

(01:10:25):
starting to surround him with some stuff. So let's let
it play out and let's see what we got.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
David's in here says he must be listening because I've
been saying it for a while, especially on Lockdown. Spurs
are making the playoffs this year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
I hope so too.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
I've told you there's four teams, there's Oklahoma City, there's Denver,
there's Houston, and a healthy Dallas team. Those are your
top four. I mean there's really no way around it.
Those four teams stacked. They're ready to go as long
as they stay healthy. Outside of that, the Clippers, I
love what they did, but I'm still not certain on

(01:11:09):
what they are doing. Minnesota is the key here. I've
got him at five, but I've got him at a
fringe five, a really big fringe five. Because Julius Randall
is he's the stock market. He's up, he's down, he's up,
he's down. Rudy Gobert, I don't know if he's gonna,
you know, fuck with the team again by giving everybody

(01:11:30):
you know, COVID or whatever. I don't know what the
hell is going on, Rudy Gobert, Anthony Edwards. It's up here, bro,
I don't know if he's going to have that. He's
already being talked about the face of the league and
YadA YadA yah, which he doesn't want. But we all
know Geo in this generation, the moment that spotlight comes

(01:11:50):
on and it's everything, sometimes you gain falters and we
don't know if it's going to get to him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I think he's fine. I think we've I don't think
we've seen the best yet of mister Edwards, and we've
seen a good amount. Rudy, I'm I'm throwing the Lakers out.
I know you don't really care much for what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Are you throw out?

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
In the garbage?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
That's where I throw.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
With Lebron and Luca. They got something, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
How much, sponsored by Golden Corral, Broy Bronnie. Bronnie had
a pretty damn I'm gonna eat a little bit of
crow here. Bronnie looks like he proved a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I know it's Summer League, but last year in Summer League,
I mean he averaged like what two points a game?
At least this Summer League he's balling a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
But do you think the kid would gets better?

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I mean, it's just you're gonna get him the Summer
League All Star.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Yeah, give him the Summer League.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
He's generational generation all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Bronnie, Yeah, I mean he he has played well, and
we did wish him good luck. Riddy, It's just the
whole Lebron thing was just kind of a huge jamper
and then him getting a guaranteed contract when he was
the second round pick, and he wouldn't have been if
he's was not the last name James.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
But anyway, he wouldn't have been drafted. You know that
for a fact. Here we're wrong about Houston. They look
good on paper, but never be a great team. Even
on paper. I think it's still they look good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
I don't even have to look they they have talent
all over. I think Houston we thought last year they
peaked too early. Were gonna think next year, I think
they're gonna be the real deal. And I don't I
mean really, I think we talked about the Rockets. What's
their ceiling and Jacob you can kind of coming in

(01:13:50):
but I don't know, maybe conference I think second round,
maybe conference finals, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I think conference finals this season.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
You know what, they could you know what I mean,
they could. They definitely could because uh, I don't know.
It's kind of when it comes to the Rockets, it
kind of looks like when you look from the outside
looking in, it's like what are they doing? But it's
one of those things that's whatever they're doing, it seems
to be working. Yeah, you know what I mean, it's
just like, uh, why, Like they don't want to like

(01:14:20):
it just seems to be working. I'll just say that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Well, their coach, which, by the way, Spurs probably could
have got Hi Murdy a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yes, they could have got a lot of different people,
especially in the off season, but they went with Mitch Johnson.
And I've vetted before the most recent Locked On episode,
I said that the coaching staff that the Spurs surrounded
Mitch Johnson with a plus galore. I mean, you're gonna
see an impact when it comes to this coaching staff,
a plus galor. This is Redy compos Junior super League TV.

(01:14:53):
We're at the end of the show here coach g
O joining me here, Jacob Barrett obviously upgrading the Market'll
be getting back on the certain things you can catch
greeting the market from earlier where I talked to Matt
Schilling about the big old scandal going on in the
sports memorabilly world. GEO, before we go, you and I
have an NFL preview show coming up, probably within the
next couple of weeks, maybe in August. We'll get to
the NFL prev show. I think you're gonna love me,

(01:15:16):
but you're gonna hate me at the same time, I
am ready right now at the end of this show
to make my super Bowl prediction. I've studied it every way,
any which way possible, and I've I've come down to
my shoe team. Okay, I am sorry, dude, but.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Dude, do not drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
My team I fully expect and my super Bowl pick
this year to win is the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Oh my god, the Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Are my super Bowl pick. I I cannot find a
weakness right now for them, I am, I'm I'm serious, dude,
I cannot. I keep trying to talk myself out of
well Stafford is older. Oh no, no, receiving. I can't do
the receiving corps. The only thing I can find is

(01:16:13):
running back, dude, and even that's minute.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Yeah, Kiren's had some he's had some fumbling issues, and
he cost us a fumble in that playoff game against
the Eagles. The Rams are I definitely see a ten eleven,
twelve win team this year. Yeah, you know me, I'm
always trying to be as humble as I can on
my team. I don't want to kind of get myself

(01:16:40):
too excited about the Rams. I mean, Jared Verse, he
was a stud. I'm not sure if y'all caught that
interview with with Armstead. I think he's retired, but a
really good offensive tackle on his day ready. And you
know who he said that he does not want to
see ever again is Jared Verse. He says that guy,
the strength that he did is unbelievable. The Rams drafted

(01:17:03):
pretty heavy on the defensive front, kind of taking a
page from what the Eagles did the last few years,
Jolie drafting Georgia player. But the Rams, they gotta go
to opportunity. I'm stoked to see what they have. Obviously,
Ruddy's health is you know, you gotta be healthy and
you gotta be lucky in the playoffs especially, But I

(01:17:24):
think I have a great shot. I'm I'm really hoping
we can have one more run and then if the
if the Rams win this year, I gotta feeling Sean
might step down and go to the Amazon or somebody's
gonna pay him a bunch of money go to talk.
But really, I'll say this last point the Rams were
if the Rams beat the Eagles, would you do you

(01:17:46):
do you all think the Rams probably win the Super Bowl?
Because I thought the Rams were as hot as any
other team besides obviously the Eagles and the Chiefs just
look like dead in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
The Chiefs had no chance of winning the Super Bowl,
ardless who they played last year. I mean I said
it last year. You used to get pissed off of
me for saying.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Well, because look they kept winning, Realdy, I mean, Jeeves
got lucky all freaking season.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Dude. They got saved by the officials on so many
games they should not have been there. If you want
to fight me on that, I'll fight back on that,
because I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Mean, there does seem to be some official favoritism. But
look they they still won the playoff games really and
pretty somewhat convincingly. To a certain extent, they did. So
do you don't think the Chiefs can bounce back?

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
I actually, on the AFC side, I have the bills
right now. I have the bills, but I'm leaning bills
for Baltimore right now is what I'm leaning right now.
For the AFC.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Lamar has to show it already. We have not seen problem.
And that's the thing with him. Two MVPs is Lamar generational.
I won't throw that question out ya Is he a
generational talent? Because two m VPS man Steve Nash did that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Oh God, here we go. Steve's better Lamar Jackson or
Steve Nash to get into that talk. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Well, Mar it sucks because he he really hasn't done
much in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
So and that okay, So I hate that. We gotta
go and I've got all some energy when it comes
to Lamar Jackson. But that is the reason why I
say Harball needs to go. Harbaugh is still the coach.
You're not gonna get a super Bowl win as long
as Harpball's there. It doesn't work between Harbaugh and Jackson.

(01:19:55):
It hasn't worked. You need to make a change. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
But they have good teams already and they make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
And but making the playoffs, I mean, what are you?
You're the San Antonio Spurs and back in the nineties,
what do you want to take the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
So what do you want to taking that job?

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Rudy? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Wow, there's a dumb ass coaching at North Carolina right
now that could definitely use it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
I don't know they Lamar Man, It's possible he's kind
of reached his ceiling. I don't know. I just don't know.
He's a really good player, and he when he's hot,
he's hot. But come postseason he's been okay, he's had flameouts.

(01:20:45):
Josh Allen's also lost to the Chiefs a lot. So
are you gonna go with the Jets this year like
you did last year?

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I haven't decided yet. That's a very very weak division,
is very weak overall.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
I mean easy, easy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Sorry, take up? Who who's your team again?

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
How about Chargers? Fam? Yeah? So we're we got Yeah,
I haven't. I haven't been talking too much about them lately,
especially we know they already gave her to be the
bag and stuff like that. We're feeling the rape cut,
you know, the effects of it. Mike Williams just went out.
So you know, I'm happy listening to other teams. You know,

(01:21:30):
I like them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
The thing is, though, I think the other Horrorball is
such a you know, they run the ball right and
they make the best pass, but it always just seems
like they're kind of vanilla. It's kind of just a
simple kind of and it were I mean, already I
think they won ten games like it works, But how

(01:21:53):
far it's gonna end? Does doesn't Herbert keep getting a pass.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Yeah, man, I know we gotta go. But I'll tell
you what NFC West you, I do have the Rams
winning it. I have the Niners as the worst team
in the NFC West. That's what I have. But but
it could change. And I did the schedule, the whole

(01:22:18):
full season schedule for every team. I had the freaking
Cowboys as the worst team in the NFC East. Wait
till we get to the preview.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Because the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
The record. Man, I'm like, there's a website you can
go to and you go pick one team and actually
you can do the entire season for like every team,
And I did that. Cowboys were the worst record in
the NFC East.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Man, Listen, it's gonna be the Giants. The Giants have
a new quarterback. I think Russell Wilson's there. I mean
I have Jameis Winston and his crab legs there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
So there's defense.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Is their defense is gonna be good. I just Dave
Ball's literally on his last legs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
We'll see, we'll see. Man, Hey, this is the end
part of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
It's coach Geo's Jacob Eric. We're getting ready to log
off here for all you guys that left comments on
the Lockdown Spurs YouTube channel. You should know your role
and shut them up. That's the message that we are
leaving for all you guys on there, but continue to
leave them. I'm gonna continue to be a guest on Lockdown.
I'm gonna see if GEO can be a guest on Lockdown.

(01:23:36):
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