KCAA: Tackle Obesity (Sat, 21 Sep, 2024)

KCAA: Tackle Obesity on Sat, 21 Sep, 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
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Speaker 4 (00:32):
In behalf of our host Richard Walker, let's welcome Russ
Allen and our guest Jamie Morin. Together, let's tackle obesity
with women.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
That is so essential. They struggle so much. I have
two daughters, yeah, and they the one is extremely athletic
and active, so she does not have an overt struggle
with the way. The other one is struggle with whether
wait really all over you know, get true life and

(01:04):
and and so you're inspiring, You're you're smart. You focus
on one one area, you know, go but you know,
and you've been able to scale what you're doing, which
is terrific.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
I do.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
I'd love for you to kind of give an overview
of what body smart is doing and then we can
start digging in.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Yeah, so we specifically help women over thairty lose thairty
to sixty pounds and on the six months. And unlike
a lot of normal diets out there or trade and plans,
we do it without restrictive diets or countless hours in
the gym or you know, having clarity. We actually create
a lot of clarity for people and actually gamified the

(01:45):
process and to make it more simplistic and to actually
make it easier for the start team the results you
want instead of more difficult.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
I noticed you had an app that is part of
your system.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Correct that app?

Speaker 5 (02:02):
What percent of the role of the experience someone has
with Buddy Spart is managed by the app? And how
much is through the coaching And you have lots of
different programs that you do as a very comprehensive approach
and love to let you expand on that.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Yeah, so the app is the app is just a
tool the actual main experiences with the coach. So you
work with a coach on a one to one We'll
have one to one experience with the coach, and it's
their job ultimately to hold you accountable, be your chair
either and create clarity for the next steps that you
need to take. So for a lot of people we're

(02:38):
not coming. You know, they'll feel really overwhelmed with the diet,
with the movement habits, with the training and the nutrition,
their sleep, and it's often like where do we even start,
And there's a lot of overwhelming confusion, And it's our
job as coaches and professionals to really look at that
individual and understand what are going to be the bigger rocks.
So the biggest rocks are often going to see the

(02:59):
biggest results in the shortest amount of time with the
least effort, and for that, it really capitalizes on helping
people take those first couple of steps, but also maximize
the results that they see. And then you get like
an initial motivation. So that's typically something you hear a
lot of clients sayers or I just need to be
motivated to take that next step, or I just need
to be motivated with my diet or my training, when

(03:21):
matter of fact, motivation actually comes from being in motion,
so actually taking the steps and seeing the results and
then feel feeling motivated by the actions and the steps
that you've actually taken.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, we go, that's that's great. What do you have
weekly check ins with your coach or how does that work.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, so we'll have a well, we'll have a breakthrough
call to make sure that the person's ready. Just like
in you know, counseling or therapy or anything else, the
person has to want to make a change. You know,
if we're trying to pull somebody's teeth or drag them along,
you know, you'll only get somebody so far. So there
has to be a desire to want and change, and

(04:03):
we'll find that out on the breakthrough call. After that,
we'll enroll people and they'll start in a Kickstar week.
So in that Kickstar week, we get everyone set up
on the apps that we use, and then we set
some initial habits and they could just be as as
simple as you know, prioritizing better sleep, understanding what fundamentals
are going to make you have a better night sleep,
whether that's the quantity or the quality of your sleep,

(04:25):
and maybe improving some of your movement habits. So for
some people, like I think the average American is doing
around three to four thousand steps, So if we could
even just increase that to five thousands or six thousand steps,
that over a week actually really increases the calorie expenditure,
and it's just great for people's overall physical and mental
health and then, like I said, just put another just

(04:47):
keeping it simple and easy to begin with, and then
really letting the compound and effect start to take place.
So a huge philosophy at Body Smart is that we
focus on getting one percent better every day. And that
doesn't see might not watch. It seems very in reach,
But if you get one percent better every day over
the course of a year, you've got faifty seven times better.

(05:08):
So if you don't really know anything about your nutrition
and you get fifty seven times better in a year,
you're going to be considerably better than where you started.
And nutrition and training and stress management and sleep. These
are all like skills that you can start to get
better at over time, and once you master them, the

(05:30):
britenn that you have is lifelong because a lot of
these things that we're talking about here, these are these
skills that will last for the rest of your life.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
One of the things we've done is produce a video
series that works for both adults and children and the
NFL alum they are mission is to support people in
tackling Obesi. We don't provide coaching, We entervite coaches like yourself.
We think you're a critical part of it, because if
you're not held account uh, it is so much harder.

(06:03):
And a coach, if they really engage you, makes it
so much easier, uh, you know, to stay motivated to
to your point. When you run into something that's a block,
or you plateau on something, somebody outside of you can say, well,
why did you look at this and look at that?

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Accountability and coaching, I think it's when
ninety five percent more likely to take action if it
helps accounts to a certain personal process. So, you know,
the accountability aspect of coaching is huge. You know, when
it comes to Friday evening and we've had a hard
week at work and the kids have been driving us crazy,

(06:43):
it's so much easier at that time to just get
a take out or get a drive through on the
way home, because it's the easier route to take. Knowing
that you're accountable to a coach sometimes who wants you
to make that decisions, not just for them to help
you see successful, for you to see success, you know,
can really drive that positive behavior and positive actions. And
then off the back of that, you know, you get

(07:04):
up on Saturday, you feel proud of the decisions you've made.
Then those positive decisions, you know, seep into the weekend
and then it just starts to starts to really compound. So,
you know, accountability and great coaching and having that chair
leader there can really be vital for people who have struggled,
not just for years, like most of our clients have
struggled for decades. So you know, that's a it's a

(07:25):
lot of failure to have behind you. You know, if
you've tried something for twenty years and not being able
to see success, all you kind of know is is
kind of losing and failing and this being a struggle.
So when you kind of get a coach behind you
and you're able to start stacking some wins and build
the evidence behind you that you can win, it really
starts to bring back that self belief of hey, maybe

(07:46):
I can do this, you know, maybe I can become
a fit and healthy person. And beliefs are extremely powerful.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yeah, well, and getting those beliefs reinforced. Is there a
component where there's a community experience within your coaching program.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
Yeah, So each each one of our coaches works with
around fifty to sixty clients on a one on one basis.
They have a WhatsApp group community where the clients are
in there and it's it's extremely uplift and something we
hear from a lot of the ladies that we've worked
with in the past is it can feel quite alone.
Sometimes sometimes they don't want to tell their partner or

(08:23):
their friends because they failed for so long. It's like, oh,
Sally's on another diet, how long is this one going
to last? You know, there's kind of this judgment and shame.
So sometimes the journey can feel quite personal and having
like another group of you know, forty to fifty women
who can share that experience with you. And some of
these ladies might be a couple of steps behind you

(08:44):
and some might be a couple of steps in front,
and it's it's just great to see the commonalities of like, oh,
you know, I'm not the only person who's struggling with this,
and that can really give you reassurance, bless you in
the steps, in the steps that you need to take.
So yeah, community is Community's huge, especially a community of
people who are like minded. Am possibly going through the

(09:05):
same troubles?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Sure, you know? We we I coached a group of
NFL players who were retired and it was all men
kind of the opposite. These are all older guys and
the oldest was seventy nine and he lost forty nine pounds.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Wow, Amazable.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
The one who lost the most bounds is actually Richie Walker,
who is become my business partner, but and he is
our head coach. And Richard lost has lost over one
hundred and twenty pounds, and it was such a great experience.
You know. I met Richard at the Super Bowl in
LA and we were in what we're at what's called
media Row where all the media gather and they each

(09:46):
have a like a desk, so he had a desk,
but he was up in the green room and he
was stuff in his pockets with chips and every day,
and I'm telling him what I'm doing with the NFL guys,
and he goes, you know, I think I could do that.
And look at him. It was over four hundred and
twenty pounds. He's sixty sixth right, and he's a massive guy.

(10:11):
And I go, yeah, sure, good, let's do it. But
he's stuck with it and he lost ninety two bounds
in his first and we used a meal replacement program
which was fairly straightforward and for some people that really works.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
You know, the challenges to maintain after because if you
don't establish habits, you don't get anywhere really because it's
it's what you just said, it's the diet, it's not
a lifestyle, and you know you're really probably most effective
if you can establish lifestyle changes.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
I'd love for you to expand on that.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Yeah, it's a there's a really famous setting called show
me your hobbits and I'll show you your future. It's
because you have your hobbits and what you do on
a day to day basis really do dictate. You know
where you're going to go. If you've got great financial
habits today, they will often compound and you'll be wealthier
in the future. If you've got great health habits today,

(11:07):
you know you're going to continue to be the healthiest
version of yourself in the future. Versus if you have
not healthy habits right now, the same kind apply. They
can compound in a negative way. So really getting your
habits in a great place. So it does, and it
sounds a bit cliche sometimes I think people push back
when it's like, oh, it's just going to be a lifestyle,
but it really doesn't. I think where people can't see

(11:31):
themselves becoming a faith and healthy person, or I even
identify and as a faith and healthy person, like hey,
that's Sandra, she's really fast, she's really active. Is that
the experience has been quite painful for people in the past,
Like they've not enjoyed exercise, exercises felt like a punishment
to lose weight. Diets they've been on have been extremely

(11:51):
restrictive and painful. So the experience of trying to be
healthy has been very painful, and it doesn't need to
be that way. Often what people need to do is
is start taking these small steps that feel more inviting
and actually a little bit easier. And then you start
to see, as we were saying a bit earlier, that
poinstive feedback loop of hey, like, you know what, I've

(12:13):
been eating healthier out. I've been eating you know, lots
of whole foods and really getting more nutrient into my diet.
And I'm still enjoying the odd bit of chocolate and
ice cream and I'm still factoring that into my diet.
But I feel great, I've got more energy, and you
then start to actually want to choose to eat the
healthier food instead of the maybe more unhealthy food because
it makes you feel good, You have more energy, you

(12:35):
sleep better, your mental health is in a better place.
So it's really starting to take the process and taking
the steps and the small steps to create these healthier habits,
but then really reinforcing the behavior of hey, this is
this is this is what I want to do for me.
There's allignes of my values and my goals.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
You know, your your programmed you offer one hundred percent
money back gerancy. Yeah, is a terrific standard of integrity
around your service. Uh. And you know for people who
are afraid because they've failed again and again. Uh, that's
sort of you know, eliminating the barrier of fear that

(13:20):
they're going to waste their money and along with being
frustrated again. Yeah, you know, so maybe you can just
kind of outline your core method you know of you know,
do they I assume you're pretty much a whole food diet.
I mean when you but go ahead, I don't I
don't want to fill in.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
Yeah. So when it comes to all like nutritional philosophy,
we we have a philosophy of it as what you
do the majority of the time, not the minority. So
you know, we'll aim for people to get eighty to
ninety percent of their you know, overall nutrition and calories
from whole nutrient dense foods. But often you know you're
going to get enough of if you've vitamins, your minrows,

(14:01):
and your fiber from that type of food. So if
you want to have ten percent of a little bit
of what you love, you know, the odd bor of chocolate,
some ice cream factor in the minority at the time
of the minority of your diet from these foods, you
can definitely still enjoy these foods and be really healthy
and get great results. And that's something that our clients
have really aligned with because these quote unquote diets in

(14:23):
the past have been so restrictive and so painful that
it's it's kind of put them off trying, versus when
they're like, hey, like you can actually eat these foods
and you can feel full, and you can feel satiated,
and you can enjoy a little bit of what you
love or even have the odd glass of wine, it
becomes a lot more appealing. Yes, we're not saying you
can have a bottle of wine twice a week if

(14:44):
you still want to see great results, where you can
still indulge from time to time on a little bit
of the foods that you love, and creating that more
of a positive relationship of food can be fantastic. As
for our program and how we sort of guarantee results,
because it's a it's a very bold claim and statement
to make, especially when it comes to people's health. Yeah,

(15:04):
you're gonna you can take a horse to water, but
you can't force it to drink. So, like, how do
we guarantee we get these ladies, you know, guaranteed results?
Like I said, we make sure everyone comes into the
program has that wanton desire to actually start. If that's
the case, you know, we've got nearly a thousand trust
ballot reviews now and some of the common through lines

(15:24):
of being you know, body smart, will will not let
you fail. Like our team and our coaches genuinely care
and go above and beyond to help these ladies where
sometimes they would typically drop out. We will go above
and beyond. But a big one for us is we
we create clarity. So our client comes in, we understand
what their ultimate goal is, we understand what health is

(15:45):
to them and their values, and then we take them
through a gamified process so they start in a Kickstart
week and then they move into level one. And what
we have now is a five level system, tiered where
to structured curriculum. So as you go through each level,
as you complete level one, you learn new habits, new skills,
and new behaviors. And as you get to the end

(16:06):
of that level, you have to take a test and
you coach just to sign you. Often you have to
feel confident in your ability and level one before you
move into level two. And we do this with our
clients to go through five levels before they become a
Body Smart graduate. And when somebody becomes a body Smart
graduating means they've hit their goal weight, they're a healthy BMI,
they feel confident, they feel in control, they feel empowered.

(16:28):
They've often got a year of evidence behind them to
say I can be consistent, and they're in a really healthy,
confident place where they feel like, hey, I can actually
go and maintain the results I've achieved for the rest
of my life. Because, as you mentioned a little bit
earlier US, it's eighty five to ninety five percent of
people who lose weight regain it all over the next
two to three years, So the odds are kind of

(16:49):
stacked against you, and it's coming back to what you
said a little bit earlier, like people are viewing it
as like a short term diet or a short term
sprint instead of a hellistic and not get that way.
It gets thrown around with a bit woo woo, but
like a holistic lifestyle of how can I actually enjoy
my health? How can I enjoy my body? How can
I enjoy my food?

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Right? Well, my wife and I both lost She lost
seventy pounds.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
And I are.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Fifty. Amazing kind of how the whole thing started. And
you know, I've been able to keep it off and
we've adjusted our life completely around upping our activity levels.
Hydration is actually a really big piece of the puzzle
for really controlling your weight and managing times when you

(17:41):
kind of binge or something, you know, you get up
up the track a little bit if you can get
a hydrate just following an event like that, along with
every day, but particularly if you've kind of done, you
know again, enjoyed or however you want to call it, indulge.
And I would love to hear your kind of void
of vealing that.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Yeah, most people are chronically dehydrated when you wake up
in the morning, you're the most dehydrated that you'll be
all day. That's why when you go to toilet, your
pee or your urn will be as s darkest. So
getting a glass of water as soon down you as
soon as you wake up is really important for just
hy drinking the whole body and giving you lots of energy.
But then often people are just not drinking enough water

(18:20):
throughout the day, and that's what is ended up happening
there is people are tendant of food for water. So
you can finish a meal and think you're still hungry,
but what you actually might be is still thirsty because
food has water in it. So it's sometimes just a
great rule to drink like an eight ounce glass of water,
you know, twenty to thirty minutes before a meal. I'm

(18:41):
really trying to get somewhere between. I'd say around sixty
five and one hundred ounces of water. If you're really
active and you live in a hotter climate, it could
be a little bit more than that. But as I said,
most people are chronically dehydrated drinking way too much coffee.
And I'm not saying don't drink coffee or don't drink tea.
I'm just saying, drink more water. You know, A great

(19:01):
rule we always say to our clients in the morning
morning is make sure you hydrate before you caffe and eat.
And it's just that it's just that little rule that's
just trying to put things on plate. My girlfriend's steph
she she was struggling to get enough water in especially
in the morning, so she now leaves a glass of
water in the bathroom. So when she gets up in

(19:22):
the morning, as soon as soon as she brushes her teeth,
the glass of water is in front of that, and
it's it's it's something called habit stacking. So she has
the habit that she brushes the teeth in the morning
that's already there, and then she just stacks another habit
on on it where she's in the exact same situation.
So now she has a brush my teeth. As soon
as I brush my teeth, I drink my glass of water.
And it's it's just an easy way sometimes to form

(19:43):
a new habit is create the queue, which is the
glass of water is in front of me doing a
habit I already do, which is brush my teeth. As
soon as I brush my teeth, I drink my glass
of water and that way she's getting eight ounces of
water in straight away at the start of the day. So, yeah,
hydration really really important for you, energy levels, for digestion,
for you mood.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Buddy Richard gave me this. This is my little glass. Yeah,
it's about about three ounces, but yeah, because it is
crucial and you know, it lubricates your joints, it really
feeds the brain with the fluid that the brain needs
to Your brain burns so much of so much of

(20:25):
the energy of your body. People will realize, you know,
if you don't hydrate, you're actually don't have clearer thinking.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Yeah, you know, it's it's it's it's one of those
things that sounds so simple and so easy people ignore it.
You know, just drink more water and you'll have more energy,
you'll have better cognition, you'll have better good health. But
it really is how awful. And again it's just a
case of like like you've got a big bottle here

(20:54):
to make sure you know, everywhere I go, I've got
my water bottle. I'm I'm constantly making sure that I'm
hydrated because I get it. I view drinking water is
feeling good, feeling great. I'm not seeing like, oh I
have to drink water and I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
They're right now. So as you step up from level
one to level five, just in a general sense, what
are the changes that you add to the program as
you as you increase your level of uh of you know,
involvement or process.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah, so if we were to look at the the
six sort of core pillars of health, they're going to
be sleep, your movement, habits, your nutrition, your stress and
emotional management, your social connections, and then your supplements and hormones.
So as we start in the beginning, it's often just
focusing on those bigger rocks. So how can we increase

(21:50):
How can we get more movement in and how can
we get more whole fods into your diet? How can
we start tracking food and start to create an awareness
around ford As we start think get favor into the levels,
it will be more deep diving into your stress and
emotional management. So we all have, you know, bad days
where our boss ticks us off or our kids are

(22:12):
driving us a little bit crazy, and it's like, how
do we manage our stress in those moments? So maybe
we're not turning into food or we turned into alcohol
and making sure that we're starting to one create the
awareness and we always have to be problem aware before
we become solution aware, So we have to have the
awareness of the problem first. Often a lot of people

(22:32):
understand that there's a problem or that what the behavior
isn't saving them, but they're not actually aware of what
the problem is. So that's always a great place to start.
And then really starting to form strategies, like unique strategies
for you. So some people, you know, when they get
really stressed out, they'll turn to food. Other people their
appetite might get suppressed. For other people, they might deal

(22:54):
with it in other negative ways. And again it's it's
just about raising that awareness and starting to create unique
strategies for you to make sure that when this situation
happens again, your response to it is much healthier. And
it's going to continue to say if you moving forward.
So the beginning very much focused on sleep, movement, nutrition.
As we start to get favor into it, it's more

(23:14):
about self awareness and finding tools and strategies that you
can use, whether that's journal and managing your stress better
and then starting to take a step away from tracking
THROUGHOD is quite monotonous and laborious. People don't really like
to do it in the beginning, but if you haven't
got a great sense of portion control and calories and macronutrients,

(23:36):
it's a fantastic tool to use in the beginning. And
we kind of see it as not a tracking tool,
but like a planning tool. So instead of looking at
like I've got of tracking my calories, instead, it's like,
I'm going to plan the meals, and it just it
just allows you to have sound nutritional habits. Just like
if you were to track your finances and you wanted
to sound financial habits, you would make a point of

(23:58):
tracking your financials and looking at them on a regular
basis and doing audits and so on and so forth.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, that's great, you know, with where you because you
concentrate on women. You mentioned hormones, which is for women,
it's a much more variable aspect to Wait, I would
love for you to expand on that because it's something
that you know, I don't understand much about and I'm

(24:24):
sure people would like to hear about it.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yeah. So men's hormones are pretty consistent fill around at
twenty five to thirty years old. Then we start to
see a bit of a decrease in tests are shown
at like sort of every year, and men do go
through what's actually called a male menopause. It's just a
much more gradual, slower period.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Now.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Women have many gynological issues which could be from poltystic
overaries andromytriosis PMDD, and these can all cause hormone awn
balances that can affect you physically and can affect you mentally.
You also have women's mental cycles, which can range anywhere
from twenty one to thirty five days, not like a

(25:08):
typical twenty eight days. And some women don't have too
many issues of the mental cycle, and other women can
really struggle at certain points in the cycle, and this
can affect how you feel physically and again how you
feel mentally and emotionally. So one of the a key
thing for any woman listening, and it's always I always
going to be a back last year because I'm a guy.

(25:29):
But one of the best things that you can do
for your mental health is actually getting tune with your
cycle and even get your partnering on board as well.
So if you know, at certain points in your cycle,
your energies lalla and you don't feel as great, you know,
prioritizing a little bit more sleep over those three days
in your cycle could really benefit you. If you know
you really struggle on your nutrition on certain days of

(25:51):
your cycle, maybe getting some meal prepped on the days
before is only going to make those days easier to
stay on top of your health. Again, with your partner,
if they know that, they may be able to lean
and and support and help and instead of seeing it
as like a sort of like it's got to always
be you actually creating a you know, helping the family
understand certain parts of your cycle doesn't mean it's not

(26:15):
dry to say it in like a negative way. It's
just women becoming more self aware. I think even when
we're speaking about nutrition a bit earlier, it's just becoming
self aware around what works for you. So that's that's
that's a lot of issues that women can kind of
struggle with. You've then also got prenatal, so you've got
all the issues that come with women being pregnant. You've
got prenatal You've got depression while women are pregnant, you've

(26:40):
got post natal and postnatal depression, which again can cause
come with a whole host of issues. A lot of
women have never really struggled with the weight, and then
they have kids and then they gave him forty pounds
and like, wonder, what's how has this happened? Yeah, I
And then on top of that, you've got perimenopause, which
can happen around eight years before actual actual menopause, and

(27:02):
then menopause happens, and menopause for for men and women.
In the most simplistic terms, it's just a hormone deficiency.
So it's just your hormones are starting to progress over
time and that can cause again from night sweats to
hot flushers, to brain fog to you know, poor sleep.
It's it's it's a very difficult time that a lot

(27:24):
of women go through and there isn't a lot of support.
There's a lot of sports in general around women's health.
So it's that it's multi fasted when it comes to
hormones and women, and it's it's it's really about getting
the right help. But one thing that is there's a
common through line is that your sleep, your movement habits,

(27:45):
you're nutrition, your stress and emotional management, your social connections,
these are have it. They're like the bedrock of health,
and the earlier you get them in in a solid place,
the more they will save you through every aspect of
your life. So whether you're looking to have look's got
pregnants or a whatf you go through metopause, like having
a old foundation of sleep, movement, nutrition, you know, stress management,

(28:08):
on social connection. It's an a minuit of all in
a really healthy place.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Well, you know, my wife struggled that she was a
lawyer and so very stressful job, raised four kids, two
of the boys. Very stressful job, live with a crazy
guy like me, very stressful job. Right, So she used
particularly candy as a you know, because she doesn't drink.

(28:34):
So it's the reward, right for getting through some stressful situation.
And I don't think that's unique decay, but I think
that is something women do do and uh probably more
than men. What men typically do is have a beer
or you go in that direction, you know, Yeah, I
mean you can't watch it. I can't watch a TV

(28:56):
program where there's somewhere in there there's a stressful situation
and they go drink, or there's a new relationship they
go drink. So alcohol plays a huge variable in your
ability to maintain a healthy Wait, what do you how
do you guide people there.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, alcohols. This it's especially I'm in England in the UK,
it's very cultural, you know, it's a it's a very
big sort of binge drinking sort of culture and everything
celebrated around alcohol. And you're definitely a seme with the
younger generations, especially like gen Z, there's a big push
for going you know, sober and alcohol free, and there's

(29:34):
a lot more alcohol free drinks coming above. But yeah,
if we if we look at how alcohol is possibly
have on a knock on effect, you know, we see
in people's health and weight management. Alcohol is a lot
of calories. So if you want to you know, all the.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Herbs no value, no value whatsoever, just straight curbs.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Yeah, so alcohol would be classes like the fourth macronutrients,
and there's very much classes empty calories. So not all
are you drinking your calories, which is if you're looking
to lose weight, it's something that you'd probably want to
minimize or remove, which would be drinking your calories. But alcohol,
you are drinking your calories. And then the next part
of that is like nobody makes good decisions after a

(30:13):
few too many drinks, so you know, if you are
a little bit more hungry because you've been trying to
lose weight, and then you have a couple of drinks.
You know that that tenacity or that willpower that you
maybe have to stay the course, you know, kind of like, oh,
that pizza seems really appealing right now, and then it's
two thousand calories of pizza and the guild kicks in

(30:34):
because you're feeling a bit hungover. You've eaten a lot
of food that maybe you didn't plan to and then
it's kind of it's sort of like, what's the point.
I'll over eat on Saturday, I'll over it on Sunday.
And you jump on the scales on Monday morning and
people have gained, you know, seven to ten pounds and like,
oh my god, how is this happened? That failed again.
So it's not that you can't have alcohol. You can't

(30:56):
have alcoholis a part of your life and as part
of your diet. You've just got to have that awareness
to be like, what's my relationship with alcohol? There's one
drink always lead to five and then do I just
like mess it up? Or can I actually have a
glass of to a wine and stop and actually enjoy
the wine and enjoy the connections with people, and it's
really find that what that balance looks like for you

(31:18):
and that that actually takes a bit of push and
pull sometimes and being okay with actually failing. So like, hey,
if you want to go, you know what, I'd love
to have a glass of wine on Friday night to
a couple of beers. You know, go for it. And
then if you end up blowing it really badly, you know,
maybe that's kind of like, Okay, maybe I'll try that
one more time. It happens again, and it's really affecting

(31:38):
your health goals and your weight loss goals. Hey, it's
like maybe right now we'll we'll view weight loss as
a season of your life. And this isn't you know,
losing weight. I think a lot of people forget is
it's not a forever process. The goal with weight loss
is to get to the goal with or the healthy weight,
and then you actually get more calories and things can
actually become a little bit easier. So sometimes it's just

(31:59):
viewing weightless as a season and had like I have
to abstain a little bit from drinking alcohol if I
really have not the best relationship with it, that's okay
for a season as long as like we you know,
as long as because we're focus in on ultimate goal
at the moment, which is to get healthy and till
news waight.

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Speaker 4 (34:19):
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Speaker 6 (34:22):
All of our fiers come on for a minimum of
four months. Our goal is not to keep any clients forever.
It's to get people to their weight loss goal and
make sure that they have the character traits, the skills
are most importantly the right belief system that they can
go and sustain this for the rest of their life.
Eighty five to ninety five percent of people to lose
weight regain it all back over the next two to
three years. We know our Body Smart graduates are in

(34:43):
not five percent. We've given them the hobbits, the skills,
and the right belief system that they know they can
go and do this for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Remember, obesity is a medical condition, not a character flaw.
A coach by Jamie Body Smart Fitness women's weight loss experts.
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Speaker 5 (35:10):
You're in England, but what percent of your clients are
actually in America?

Speaker 6 (35:14):
About set to river?

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, they must love your accent.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah, I ought to learn to speak a lot slawer
and just yeah that's a definitely a few a few
communication issues, but all other than that, all of it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
So what uh so do you sorry?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
You have?

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Are all your coaches females?

Speaker 6 (35:38):
And so we have fourteen coaches at Buddy Smart, ten
of women on a forum man and some women actually
do prefer to work with with a guy. But like
all of our coaches are, I've got you know, high
high levels of emotional intelligence intelligence, you know, we coach
with compassion and empathy, but we also you know, one

(36:01):
of our taglines is that we cut the bs, and
it's not just with all like the misinformation out there.
We very much want to because there's a lot of
misinformation out there. We do cut the bs with that,
but we also help people cut the bs with themselves.
So we all have that inner monologue, that inner voice,
you know, that that's telling us to go down the
path of least resistance. I have sometimes called it like

(36:22):
mayenna bitch, you know, like like I really want to
work out this morning, but you know, I can feel
like getting really loud, and our coaches, I would say,
their masters are being able to give somebody that tough
love without offending them. And it's it's a real balance
and act to do, but it's it's really how you
help clients take the biggest steps forward and really feel

(36:43):
proud of the actions that they're taken, because after a
couple of months of somebody being consistent and taking these
steps that they didn't think were possible, you really start
to build that evidence of like wow, I can do
this and I did do this, and it really starts
to reaffair that self belief of wow, like, you know
what else am I capable of? We else can I
keep doing? And keep? How many? How favor can I

(37:06):
take this with my health? And you often find that
as a byproduct of people getting their health and wellness
and training in a great check, it spills over into
other areas of their lives, whether that's the relationships, their careers.
You know, they want to go and try a new
challenge because they that self belief comes back.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
So is your model? Is it a monthly commitment or
how does it work in terms of the client?

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Yeah, so all of our clients come on for a
minimum of four months. Yeah, for four months to begin with,
and then depending on where the clients at, they they'll
stay on for longer afterwards. So our goal is not
to keep any clients forever. It's it's to get people
to their weight loss goal and make sure that they
have the character traits, the skills, and most importantly the

(37:53):
right belief system that they can go and sustain this
for the rest of their life. So, just like I said,
eighty five to ninety five percent of people who lose
weight regain it all back over the next two to
three years. We know our body. Smart graduates are in
that five percent. You know, we've given them the habits,
the skills, and the right belief system that they know
they can go and do this for the rest of
their lives. They know when the holiday has come, or

(38:15):
a bare fty or a vacation, or even the stuff
that people don't really want to talk about, which is
when illness and disease strikes, whether that's for yourself or
for your family. And these are often very emotionally testing
times that can make it really difficult, and if you
don't have that really strong bedrock of health in place,

(38:38):
it can feel very easy in those moments to revert
back to old habits and behaviors and see the way
quickly come back on.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Yeah, I think the rebound is it's the most devastating
part of all of this is that because you you know,
you have to face oh my god, I got to
deal with it again, you know. And so obviously if
you've had that experience during your coaching engagement, then you'll

(39:07):
you'll you'll get those kind of training if you will
during it. But once you're out on your own, are
there are there libraries of content or anything like that.
As a former client eye axis or how does that work?

Speaker 6 (39:22):
Yeah, we we give all of our clients the playbook
to to walk away with, and it's it's very unique
to them because where somebody might really struggle with emotionally
and versus somebody else might have a different trigger. You know,
the huge key components of seeing success for you personally
is becoming self aware, knowing, knowing how you react in

(39:42):
certain situations, and then how you're ultimately going to deal
with them. So yeah, that's that's that's the really the
key thing for us. It's you know, the why we're
able to create so much success with the clients is
that they will often like I would actually, and this
sounds a bit almost backwards to say, I would be
more worried if a client was with us for six

(40:03):
months and done everything perfectly for six months straight, Like
that would in my eyes, I'd be more worried about
that client than the clients who's been here for six
months and fell off a couple of times, but then
being able to get back on because they're putting in
the reps to be like, hey, that was uncomfortable or
I wasn't proud of how I felt that weekend, but

(40:25):
then they really got back on track, start prioritized that,
prior prioritizing their health and understood that that's just the
part of life, you know, like if life has seasons,
things come and go. It's really hard at times, it's
really enjoyable at times, and that part of life and
accepting that and understand that on the days where you
give forty percent, you don't give forty percent, you give

(40:45):
a hundred that's actually one hundred percent if that's all
you could give, it really just empowers people to keep
taking those steps no matter what.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yes, well, you know, one of the things we like
to do is get short clips from our our interviews
where we then use those in our social medium. So
I'd love for you to go through your six platforms
and give us a short clip. And really we're looking
for something in the minute range about each of your

(41:16):
you know, so you're in your tip related to each
of your your core opponents because and you know you
can just rattle them off one after the other is fine,
but just to introduce it and then give your give
you your thoughts on it.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
See what we come up with, I'll bet fantastic. And
so for me, six peros a health are going to
be your sleep, So aiming to get somewhere between six
to eight hours of sleep, and that's going to be
the quantity components, but then you really want to be
looking at the quality of your sleep as well, So
this is how much deep sleep you get. And a
few quick tips people could do is, you know, reduce
the coffee and takes to try to have no coffee

(41:51):
in eight hours before bed. And then the big one
would be try to not be on screens, you know,
faifty to sixty minutes before you go to bad because
a life on the screen so really going to engage
your brain and keep you awake. After that is going
to be your movement habits, So that's the really second
big one. A quick one here is most people can
go into their phone and see how many steps are
doing now eight to eight ten thousand steps is is

(42:14):
a good recommendation to aim for eight thousand to ten thousand.
If you're doing three or four thousand, just trying to
bump that up even by one thousand is a huge
big step. Stay consistent with that for a month and
then try to do a little bit more until you
get to that eight to ten thousand range. You've also
got strength training is really important there, but I think
just for the for the biggest return on investment, just

(42:36):
trying to get them steps to eight to ten thousand
would be great. To begin with your nutrition, so most
people are eating the same forty to fifty thirds every
single week, So all I would say is just start small,
try and swap out one or two foods a week
or every other week for a healthier option. And a
healthier option is often going to be more whole foods.

(42:57):
And an easy way to think about a whole food
is let's look at a potato. So a potato would
be a whole food. The next level of that being
processed would be French fries, and the next level of
that being processed is going to be a potato chip.
So that's like a really processed version. You want to
get as minimally processed foods like that wants to make

(43:19):
up the majority of your diet as possible. Then you've
got next up is your stress and emotional management. So
this is really just those times where you maybe feel
like you lose control or you have an outburst of
anger or emotions, really trying to just take a moment
to sit in that and realize what triggered you. Was
it your boss, was it your partner, was it something else?

(43:41):
Try to really manage that situation and next time that happens,
because it will happen again, try to create a different
outcome of a different strategy. So instead of maybe turn
into food or turn into alcohol, what could you do different?
Could you go for a walk, could you call a friend,
could you get a hot bath? Could you do something different?
And I'm not saying it's going to work first time,
but just have the open mindset to at least try.

(44:03):
Next up is going to be your social connections. So
it's you know, loneliness has become a real issue, people
working from home, not socializing as much. Making sure that
you have social connections, spending time with friends, family, Actually,
like when's the last time like you belly laughed? You
want to be belly laughing a couple of times a week.
It's fantastic for your health, your physical health, your emotional health,

(44:25):
and it really just gets you in a healthy place.
Next up is your supplements and hormones. And this is
probably like the least important I would say for most
people to look at. Most people would benefit from a
general multivitament like a gender specific one. If you live
in the UK or somewhere that's really dark. Vitamin D
just a low dose of vitmuin D can really be helpful.
And then your Amiga threes can be really beneficial as well. Now,

(44:48):
like the three general supplements, anything else, you'd want to
really get bloodwork done to get recommendations.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Sure, if I have a doctor I'm working with, how
does that interface with smart Smart Body with body Smarth.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Yeah, So like we get we get a lot of
referrals from doctors just from the success that we've been
able to see, just because you know people are going
to do the yearly check up and you know the
BMIs maybe be a little bit too high. And another
a lot of people don't like BMI. It is good
for general population. But another one is your height to
waste ratio. And you want your waist to be no

(45:24):
more than half of your height, and that's because it
means you carrying too much belly fat or too much
of a spare tire, and it increases your chance of diabetes,
heart disease, you know, and some other illnesses that we
would rather avoid. So for us, it doesn't it doesn't
as long as the doctor is not given too many,
too much contradicting advice. You know, most of the times

(45:46):
it's it's a great partnership to work with and a
lot of the things that you know, we're saying today
Russ are just often some people like, oh, it's too simplistic,
and I think there's a just there's a big gap
between like knowing what's doing actually doing Like a lot
of people might know the actions that they need to take,
but knowing and drink is very different. A lot of
people know how they would get fitter, but it's the

(46:08):
practical actions that people need to take. So, you know,
for us, the biggest struggles the doctors have is that
they can tell that the patients and the clients what
to do. It's the practical application that they struggle with.
And that's that's where we're experts. Motivating people, inspiring people,
leading people, and really helping them create those those habits
and behavior changes that make a loss time change.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Yeah, those are great points, you know. And you had
that adage. I'm trying to remember that you you you
mentioned it was really excellent. I want to repeat that,
which bought Erry what the adage you offered it was
something about your habits today or something.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Yeah, it's show me your habits and I'll show you
your future. And that is your habits very much like
how you act on a day to day basis, very
much what's going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month.
So having healthy habits really do compounds and enrich your
life over time.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
So how does a coach, okay, take you've got a block,
you've got a bad habit, right, yeah, Well how does
a coach take you from where you're at? Because this
is absolutely the core of an habitual change.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
How do I how do you?

Speaker 5 (47:25):
How do they take you from here to there? You
mentioned it, but I think it's a key point, which
is this smart lover, you know, the way you praise
it was great.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Yeah, it's it's it's really when you're create a new
hobbit that needs to be a Q and then you
really need to make it easy. So let's say we
want to get a hobbit of go in the gym
more often. Now, let's say we've got a gym that's
twenty minutes the wrong way from that where we live,
and then we've got another gym that is on the

(47:56):
way to wak. Now, some people will go to the
gym because like it a bit more. That's twenty minutes
the wrong way from work. But then they realize they've
had the gym membership for two years and never being
basus having the gym that's on the way to where
you can create, you can you can almost make it
easier to pass, Like you've got to drive past the
gym every day and actively choose not to go in

(48:17):
so often. Setting your environments up to make it easier
starts to help these habits to form in a much
easier way. So the easier you can set your environment
up for success, the easier it just becomes to your default.
You just live a fitter and healthier lifestyle. And that's
really the key. You know, if you were to you know,

(48:40):
let's say you were to get somebody who was really
strown with the weight, and we'll say they, you know,
come and lived with a family who were super super
healthy by proxy, they would probably just start to become
healthier over time. And it's probably got down to like
the movement habits, the nutrition, the sleep habits, just how
they generally live. You'd find a lot of things are
just by default set up that help people live a

(49:01):
healthier life. And for most people that feels like it's
a long distance away and you don't need to worry
about that. That's what overwhelms people. You really just got
to focus on what can I do today get one
percent better tomorrow? And it can be as simplistic as that,
because the more. There's a great book called Atomic Habits
by James Claire, and his whole thing is, you know,

(49:26):
tiny changes, remarkable results, and that's what it is. A
lot of people want to see that, like they want
to go all on off and I'm going to go
to gym five times next week. I'm going to not
eat any chocolate. I'm not going to have any alcohol.
Everyone wants to go one hundred miles an hour and
then they wonder why they do it for two weeks
in the drop off. A better solution is to have
more of a zoomed that approach. Look at this as

(49:47):
a six to twelve month sort of approach, and just
small little steps that you can take every single day
that don't feel that difficult, and then you look back
over a couple of weeks, you look back over a
couple of months and you've made full of the mental
lifestyle changes and you start to see results.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Well, we know obesity is the mother of two hundred
co morbidities, starting with mobedes and uh, and then diabetes
increases your risk for heart disease about four fool. The
thing about heart disease in women is they tend to
not have a heart attack. They tend to die from

(50:26):
a heart attack, whereas men tend to survive at the
first one. But then not you said, not always, and
certainly it's but it is something that that you know,
people you know don't realize the importance of what you're
doing in terms of this. So the investment they make

(50:47):
in their coaching is is not about their weight. It's
about the extension of their life. Uh. And the you know,
the things that you're able to do in your life,
you know, so you know, freeing it from that point
of view. What are your comments on that one?

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Oh, it's it's it's huge. We've had a you know,
husband's message us and say I feel like I've got
my wife back, you know, and and and a lot
of people feel like they've got themselves back in their life.
The amount of parents that have declined taking their children
to social events because they feel wrassed about how they look.
And then they feel the guilt around the children or

(51:26):
women who are not putting the hand up for that
next step in their career because they don't feel confident
enough to do so. So, yes, there's all of these
parts of You know, you've got your your lifespan, which is,
you know, how long we live. But then you also
have your health span, which is how long we go
before we get any sort of disease. And for a

(51:47):
lot of people, you want to have as long of
as a health span as possible. And that means, hey,
when we're in our you know, fifties, sixties and even
seventies and beyond, we still feel great, We still have energy,
you know, we still couldn't get up with a spring
on our stat and enjoy all lives.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
You know, I'm wondering how many of your coaches actually
are graduates.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
Yeah, we've had a couple of our coaches who have
gone through their own weight loss jennies, quite big weight
lost jennies, and that's inspired them to become coaches. It's
actually really hard to get a job as a coach
of Buddy Smart. You know, you've got to have at least,
you know, five thousand hours of experience and have a
long list of sort of you know, social proof that
you can actually get results. And even though a lot

(52:30):
of people might look at the training element and the
nutrition element, you know, a huge thing for us is
behavior change. Like all of our coaches have to go
through some sort of qualification that shows that they can
actually help shift and change people's behaviors because it is
it's it's so it's so important to making that that
last and change. But yeah, it's the changes that it makes,

(52:53):
it's it's it's hard to even quantify. Sometimes, like you
change a woman's life, she's in the ast place possible.
She becomes a beath of mother, a beat of daughter,
a beat the co worker, and then not just like
a it's like a positive ripple effect that affects every
single person about individual and interacts with and you know

(53:13):
the fact that we're doing not on such a scale,
it's it's an extremely rewarded job. It's it's a huge
bar of why I get up in the morning and
why the teams do as well.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
I didn't realize your coaches had that depth of background. Uh, So,
I the only thing you think missing from your website?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Is that?

Speaker 10 (53:31):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (53:31):
That that is impressive, very very impressive. The extent of
their background, that is uh, it's so significant. Well, listen,
thank you for your time today. It was a fantastic interview.
Is there any closing thoughts you want to add? Please?

Speaker 6 (53:47):
No cheers Russ and I thank you for having me on.
And I guess if anyone else would like to find
out more about what we do, it's it's body Smartfitness
dot com and I am at Jamie Moran or if
you you google body Smart Fitness on Instagram, you'll be
able to find us terrific.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Hechlergain, Jamie, thank you, and we'll be a judge.

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