KCAA: Tackle Obesity (Sat, 28 Sep, 2024)

KCAA: Tackle Obesity on Sat, 28 Sep, 2024

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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Welcome to another Tackle Obesity Show featuring Coach Richard Walker.
Our host members of the NFL, alumni, lifestyle weight loss experts,
and key social media influencers that are making a difference.
Now Coach Richard Walker.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Good morning ere one. This is Coach Walker, the NFL
love not Tackle OBC. It is such a pleasure to
have you. We are live today on yet another episode
of the Tackle BC Show and we have an amazing,
amazing show for you Today. I have an amazing guess
who I had the pleasure of speaking with at the

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Obese Action Coalitions Your Weight Matters Convention earlier this year,
doctor Hollyodofton. So we'll bring her on here the second.
But being a coach, I have to give you guys
the locker room speech. So today I want to talk
about the old New Year's resolution thing. Now, when we

(01:26):
talk about a resolution, we're talking about a plan, a goal,
and it's fine, there's nothing wrong with a resolution. But
I'm going to leave you with the question today. We
always do have resolved for so many things in life,
We have plans for so many things in life. But
sometimes these things don't get accomplished because they're simply that

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they're simply a resolution. So my challenge to you today
is do you want to be a part of a
resolution or a revolution? Because when you have a revolution
in your life, or in your career, or whatever the
case may be, that is a overthrow of a process.

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A revolution means that you're gonna do things completely differently
than you did before. That being said, I challenge all
of you to look forward to the new year with
a revolution, and you need to start that revolution today.
Jay July fourth was not a data significance until after

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the war. No one sent around and said, hey, we're
gonna try to overthrow the British on July fourth. We
selected that day after the fact to celebrate what had
already been accomplished. So make your revolution start today. I
encourage all of you, if you haven't done so visit
our website tackle obesiti dot com. You can sign up

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to be coached by NFL alumni. You can be myself,
coach Reggie Brown, coach Michael Faulkner. We are here to
help you get to the finish line, and we have
an amazing team behind us with Doc Olli be and
our senior medical advisor. She has an amazing background also
doctor Greg Ntello. They are the experts behind the plants,
so they're behind the scenes helping the coaches with the

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game plan to get you to the finish line. So
doctor Holly Loughton has done so much to help people
with the challenge of obesity. She herself experienced obesity as
a child. She has used that as the beacon to
drive her motivation to eventually become what she is today.

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She is a champion in the battle against obesity. He
is such an honor to bring her on to talk
to you all to day and answer all your questions.
So if you got questions, drop them in a chat.
We'll try to get them on to her. But it
is a pleasure and I'd like to welcome on doctor
Holly Laxton. Doctor hir are you today?

Speaker 5 (03:52):
I'm great coach Richard, how are you.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I'm doing actually doing amazing, doing amazing. So, first of all,
thank you for joining us today. Is such a privilege
to have you here on the Tackle Obasi Show.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
I'm ready to be here. I can't wait to hear
the questions you have for.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Me and your audience.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yes, yes, so, Doc. One of the things that you
and I spoke about, you know, shortly before we came
on today, and it is something that you know, a
lot of us just don't quite seem to have a
grasp on. And that's the unfortunate fact that there are
a lot of marketing companies that I want name names.

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There are a lot of marketing companies behind these products
that we see on our store shelves, and they have
misconceptions on their labeling that lead us to believe that
some of these products are healthy. So without naming names,
there is one product in particular that I saw while
I was on the grocery store. And this is a

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serial brand and on the box it says and help
lord cholesterol as a part of art healthy diet it
and it also says it's gluten free, no artificial flavors, colors,
and it has two times the vitamin D needed to
help build strong bones. So a lot of claims the expert,

(05:14):
what are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
So this cereal of first the claim was that it
can help improve cardiovascular health in addition to a heart
healthy diet. Now, the heart healthy diet itself well can
decrease cardiovascular risks. So that food we're being very of
verbal here and taking that completely in context. That food

(05:37):
can be added to a heart healthy diet that's already
healthy for you. So that's what I get out of
that one. And then what was the next claims? So
the gluten free and artificial flavors and colors free. When
something states that that is usually true, they have to
abide by that. If it's free of something, it can't
be in the ingredients because the FGA does really look

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at that and does really regulate that. Now, the vitamin
D claim is a little obscure because every American's, everyone
in the world, everyone's vitabmin D requirements differ depending on
what their viabin D level is. And I always screen
for vitamin D levels and all of my patients because

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when someone has obesity, what happens the vitamin D gets
a question in the fat cell because it's a fat
soluble vitamin. So when you check a level, it's eighty
percent low. It's lowered eighty percent of people that I
screen and so supplement that and people with obesity. So
while the product probably contains the vitamin D, it's hard

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to know what percentage of your individual needs might be
in that cereal.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Well, according to their label, it contains about four micrograms
of vitamin D per serving.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, you have to convert that into the usable units.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
That's the other thing.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
So when we look at let's say a vitamin D supplement,
and when we tell people what they need to take,
it's in international units, so I have to convert that
to micrograms. But in international units, normal amounts is eight
hundred international units. And that's if you have no biden
ded efficiency for those who do, depending on the level,

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we recommend one thousand and two thousands, sometimes five thousand
people who have say barage surgery because they can't absorb
the bib deep from the food or the supplement.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Wow wow uh. While we're while we're in the grocery store,
let's let's walk down another out because one of the
other common mystic common areas where we overlook these challenges
that come with the labeling are condoments We don't. We
don't think about what's in our condiments, you know. We

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for example, uh, I posted a video of uh, you know,
some some air fried uh proteins and things like this.
So you eliminate the grease, and you eliminate the salt
the flour, but you can ruin at all. You have
the wrong condiments. So talk to me about condiments, like,
what are the things that we should have looked out
for condiments?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yes, we're talking about the sauces and other products. We
put on things that make them taste better, and they're
often forgotten when someone's doing a calorie lag. You know,
you said you had a burger, and include the brun,
the bread.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
The.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Patty, the lettuce, tomatoes, and then what else did you
put on to make it more tasty? And on that note,
I brought some of my favorite condiments right from my
cafinet here. Okay, without naming names, this is a sweet
and sour sauce, you know, I mean, I think that
tells you already there's probably some sugar in there, but
a tablespoon has six grams of carbohydrates in this. So

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to give some reference, one slice of bread has fifteen
grams of carbohydrates, so having two tablespoons of this is
about the equivalent of a slice of bread. So if
I put that on my burger, then that's like having
a third slice of bread. So those are things I
look out from the labels. You know how much sugar
is in this? How much carbohydrates in it? And this
is all sugar. When I look at it's all added

(09:08):
sugar and the ingredients are oh, look at that. The
first was water and the second one is cane sugar.
So not surprivate. But this is one of my favorites.
Again without putting the labels, I think we know what
this is. I love hot sauce. I can tell you
like I got it the Christmas present wants a jug
of hot sauce with my name on it, like written.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
I love how sauce.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Hot sauce. You know it's just vinegar and peppers. It
has no calories. Really taking it if you like spicy things.
But then they get into again without labels being revealed.
Hot honey, this is really famous. Now it's really expensive too,
so honey is all sugar and yet it's natural and

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yes it's from bees, but it's one hundred percent sugar.
And the tablespooded that had the mini carbs car hydrate
content as one slice of bread. So knowing what's in
your condiment is so important because it will really throw
off the protein to carbohydrate ratio of what you're eating
and are recod that people have this much protein to

(10:14):
this much carb because if you flip that, then that
makes that food more likely to cause fat cells to
be formed or get bigger, and also can make you
more hungry if something that's really carbridge. So if you
add a lot of condiments with a lot of sugar,
that could actually take your healthy meal, like you said
the wings that you made and make them really very

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sugary and not so conducive to weight.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Loss or even weight maintenance.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Wow. Wow, So my question today is this, you know,
because we all have flavored pelts and there's no way
to avoid that. You know, I myself, I'm a die
horse sweet guy. That has been my biggest challenge is
overcoming this sweet tooth that just it continues they were
to wear. So what can we have that we can enjoy?

(11:04):
What are some things that you recommend that we can
get away with using I.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
By no means what people live in deprivation because you
can only do it so long before it becomes intolerable.
Right If I say you have no sweets, you do
that for a day, a week, a month, that gets
really hard. Then what happens You dive into every suite
that you can find because your body's thinking about it,
craving it, and then you have to start over. So
we say in moderation, but what does that really mean?

(11:32):
It's can you afford that based on how the rest
of the day went. Did you exercise yesterday? They playing
size tomorrow? And did you have a lot of other suites?
So it's about portion control when it comes to those well,
I hate to call them cheap foods, but you know
the things that we indulge in that some things just
should not be everyday foods. You know, we have cake,

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We have a slice, not the whole cake. But if
you leave the whole cake at your house, the only
way it is leaving either you eat it, someone else
eats it, or you throw it out. So I always
make a point to have people make a plan for
what they'll do with their holiday leftover whenever their favorite

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sweet or treat is because if you make that one
day meal into a month long event, you'll have a
hard time really trying to fight that off. And then
you know, some foods are addictive. It's been a lot
of money not only in marketing and making labels and commercials,
but making foods taste good, and some of that is
actually making them addictive. I'm sure you've heard certain snack

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foods that you can't eat just one. It's because they
really have added ingredients that are proven to be addictive.
So you have to be careful with that.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Wow, wow, this well that's so hard. Oh so you
kind of touched on this in regards to portion control, Uh,
how do how do we do that long term? Like
what do you think would be the best way for
us to to strategize to manage our portions?

Speaker 5 (13:11):
I say everyone should think of what portions was something
that they carry with them all the time, and that's
not a food scale, but it's your hand, right, so
your hand has all your portion sizes there. So protein
should be the size of your entire hand. So it's
your hand for you, my hand for me. We think

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about the carbohydrates, so these are things like rice, bread, pasta, potatoes.
Don't forget things like beans, fruits, corn, peas. These are
also carbohydrates. They're not bad foods, but you don't want
to eat the whole hand of those. That should be
more of the size of your palm. And I think
about fats. Fats are things like nuts, seeds, cheese, avocado.

(13:57):
That's more of the size of your thumb. So this
is actually like three cheese cubes. So that is one
serving of cheese about one hundred calories. So that's how
you can look at it. Just portioning things based on
if you're serving yourself or you're having something in the restaurant.
Another way you can do this is eat on a
smaller plate because it fouls the eye that we're eating

(14:21):
more when we put the same portion on a smaller plate.
So that's another way we can do that.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
At home.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
I tell people to get plates to their nets for
toddlers and an eat from those I do that.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Wow, Well, that's that's those Those are great tips, doc,
Those are great tips. Oh. One of the things that
you mentioned it in whatever our videos and by the way,
I encourage you guys to go to the Tackle Obesity
YouTube page. There are a lot of videos on there.
Doc Holly has done several of them with tips and
tricks and things to help you manage to get to

(14:53):
you closer to your goal. One of the things that
you did a short series on was about hydration, and
so can you just tell us a bit more about
you know how important is hydration And the body is.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
A very complex organism. You know, it's humans. And in
order for all of our prostatitis to work, think about
we have ourselves, we have our tissues, we have our
organ we have our body systems. All of these come
together to work in our body by biochemical mechanisms, or

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we think about chemistry. You know, what goes in has
to come out. And in order for us to make
food into usable energy or ATP, that's how we exist,
that's how our muscles move, that's how we talk and
blink and walk and move, we have to use ATP,
the long scientific name it stands for to make energy.

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And we take let's say we eat a cookie. We
have to break that cookie down into small cookie pieces.
The stomach digested it makes it into a essentially you
all unit of energy and then has to get absorbed
through the body.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
So on and so forth.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
But we can only really use the energy form of
glucose to fuel our brains. In order for us to
turn food into glucose, whether it's a protein of fatter
or carp, we need to go through this cycle called
the crab cycle. So if we go back to what
is that maybe seventh grade eighth grade biology, that crep

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cycle is this long process that turns glucose into usable energy.
At all of those different components of that cycle use
water as a necessary byproducts. So in order for our
bodies to work, we need lack of hydration, you know,
and we need to get that hydration from not only water.

(16:51):
I say, things that are less than five calories are
serving a non caffeinated count as water. We can really
eat them. You can drink things that are caffeinate. You
can drin things that don't worre calories. But I wouldn't
say that that's your water requirement for the day. So
our water requirements can easily calculate this. I say, take
your weight in pounds, cut that in half, that's how
much water you should drink. So or if you have

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your weight in kilograms, that that number is there out
of weight that water that you should drink, So we
want to drink that throughout the day, so our bodies
have all the billity blocks to do the processes that
it needs. And the other thing is if you are hungry.
So if you're thirsty and dehydrated, your body can confuse

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thirst with hunger and that can lead you to over
eat and you're really very thirsty.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
So sometimes we're actually thirsty and not hungry exactly.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
And I use that as a tip for my patience.
If you're hungry but you don't think you should be,
just ate, drink some fluids, see if that hunger goes away.
Because sometimes it's the brain, the brains that gets message
to eat, not eat, drink not drink, and sometimes those
measures can construed by us. So I'd say, you know,
drink soften first.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
If you think you're hungry and you don't expect that
you should be. Let me all of that way, okay.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Oh. One of the things that people always concern themselves
with is the the the old magic number on the
scale weight. And you know, especially from from you know,
working with you and talking to you know, doctor Mantello
and some of the other experts, we know that weight
is really only one metric, So can you talk to

(18:35):
us about how do we how do we what's the
best way to track our what we call our weight willness.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
I think of weight as very scientific and basically that
number you see when you stay on the scale is
how much gravitational pull you have to the center of
the earth. That's what That's what that number tells us.
And we know that changes throughout the day, So you
weigh yourself in the morning, you get a different weight
to night. There are many things to go into that

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because we have taken consideration our water intake, our output
of stool or urine that can affect it, whether our
cells are swollen because we had a lot of salt
that day. So weight, the number on the scale is
not a perfect measure of one definitely doesn't always correlate
with health. I want to make that very clear. But

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it's not a perfect measure of our body composition. So
I actually measure body composition in my office. And a
better measure that you can use to assess health that
needs to you to measure is waste circumference. So this
is something you can easily do at home. Get out
our tape measurer, put it around the top area where
your pelvis is, so that's the highest point you can

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fill your pelvis measure that area, and that is more
correlated with how much that mass one has, so we
call that the waste or conference. So the goal is
under fourty interest in a male, under thirty five inches
in a female to be associated with the lower risk
of heart disease. So those are concrete numbers. Now, if
we have these fancy scales that can tell our fat percentage,

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those again are more concrete numbers that can say, okay,
we want under twenty eight percent in females under thirty
percent in males to say that we don't have medical obesity.
So those are some more clear definitions than just looking
at weight, because we know this varies based on many
other things.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Absolutely, we have all follow up question here from Mani.
My question is do we weigh ourselves every day?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Good question, Mini. My answer to that depends on how
neurotic you're going to get, to be honest. So if
you can weigh yourself once a day in the morning,
after we've got into the bathroom with minimal clothes and
then move on, that's fine. But if it gets into
your mind so much that you're weighing yourself too three
times a day. They either don't weigh yourself at all,

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or weigh yourself. I do think if it doesn't bother
you too much, weigh yourself every morning, because then you
could assess what yesterday did to you and you can
make some notice some treads that say, you know, I
had a lot of salt yesterday. Now I weights up,
or I ate that favorite cake someone brought to work
my weights up, So you know what yesterday's behaviors do

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for you. But that can also be very positive.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
You know, I did my.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Workout yesterday and I noticed my weight's going down. So
not only to track the number on the scale, but
how that is responding to your behaviors.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Okay, now we understand that you know this. This is
a constant challenge to you know, fight the battle and
with weight and what should I eat? And I'll at
some point it just becomes too much with some people.
So you'd be an obviously an expert in the field,

(21:57):
which your many years of experience and work with pace
and managing medical wave programs, and you're the director of
a medical wave management program with NYU. What's the what
do you in your experience. What's the threshold where you
as you're as a pay as a person, what is
the threshold where, Okay, this isn't working, I need to

(22:20):
get help from a medical official. What do you think
is the threshold where someone should seek a medical supervision
for their weight loss?

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Well, I think you stated right there. If this isn't working,
it's one time you can say that, you know, let
me go seek some professional hut, whether it's a registered dietitian,
a weight management specialists, and you really do want to
vet that person's ability to give you advice. So I
don't recommend always going to someone who lost way and

(22:52):
say I want to do it exactly like you did.
Because everyone's physiology is different. So when I see a patient,
I say, all right, let's look at your past, your
diet attempts, your successes, your failures, you know, with medications
around all these different things. Uh, and and really get
an understanding of why this person is the weight that
they are at this time, and that is dependent on genes, physiology,

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and environment, and those things are changing all the time.
Our environments change. Look what happens. We're gonna start working
from home a lot. That's a big environmental change. You
don't have to have a big commute. We walk, you know,
ten steps to a living room and where at work.
Also our age is an environmental change. Uh, women going
through different phases of life, puberty, periment, apolsal pregnancy, pre pressudancy,

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post pregnancy, so these things are physiologic change is that
a medical professional can really help you assess what you
can do differently because your body, you know, you're the
same person, your body changes over time, so definitely that
this is not working. But also if you're getting sicker
and sicker is relative, if you're feeling short of breath,

(23:58):
if you have a new way related medical conditions. So
I said, oh yeah, pre diabetes, you know, let's see
its specialists now, because you don't want to wait until
it's diabetes. And then the pylon a bunch of new
recommendations that you have to follow to avoid taking insulin.
So those preconditions should be treated as real conditions. And
that was also warrant professional help. So I really think

(24:19):
if you're getting sicker and if you're gaining way you
don't know why, there could be some investigation into that,
and you can look at labs and other things made
medication is causing that, and we can do something to
mitigate the effects of those.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Well, well, I wish if we were all designed like
cars where you have a check injelight that it comes on,
but we don't exactly. I love your point that you know,
when you start experiences sometimes, especially me and I'm calling
you guys off myself included, we ignore those warrant signs
and we have to learn how to put our egos

(24:53):
aside and just say, you know what, what I'm doing
isn't working. Something's wrong to me, Go seek the help
of a professional. Now. One of the things that.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Is a.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Very quickly growing trend in the weight loss spectrum is
the use of medical, medically supervised solutions such as you know,
o zeppig, glue, tide, you know whatever, pick your prescription here.
And I think we have sort of a two sides
of the fence here. You have a group that thinks

(25:25):
that and that they use to turn quote quote this
is not healthy weight loss or they don't like the
fact that you know this medicine involved. So can you
speak to that, you know, just speak to that, like
what are the down sides of using because I mean,
so that's toping that needs to be spoken about. What
are the down sides of used in a medically supervised
prescription based weight loss.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yes, I can talk about medications for a whole hour,
but we won't do that right now. But think about
it this way. We use medications, or let's say cholesterol treatment,
and the goal of eating the cholesterol is not just
to get the number down that you get on your
labs when you're reading, Oh, I get the LDL down
to one hundred. Why getting that number down decreasing your

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risk of heart disease later on, treases your risk of
stroke later on. So when we think about a medication
for obesity or overweight as a medical condition, we're using
that to prevent weight related medical conditions like cholesterol, diabetes,
even mental health aspects. If you're how are you feeling

(26:31):
down and you're depressed, that's warranted to treat that. And
I want people to forget that obesity and mental health
issues are often correlated and present together. So I always
free people for mental health issues and we're starting a
plan and because they exist as not even can't treat
the obesity, but you want to make sure that's taken
care of it as well. But back to medication. So

(26:54):
if the medications that we use that are more recent,
and we'll just stick what we'll call it the injectibles. Okay,
they work very physiologically and just as I figure about
it this way, just as someone who has underactive thyroid hormone,
we give them back thyroid hormone. These injectibles look just

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like some of the hormones that we make in our
testines that go to our brain and tell us that
we're less hungry and more full. And that's really what
these medications are doing. They're giving us back a hormone
that the person with obese is not have enough of,
and that helps them be able to follow the lifestyle
plan that they were given, whether they're giving it to
themselves I should eat less of this and more of this,

(27:35):
or dieticians giving it to them. Because we really do
get messages from the brain to eat, stop eating, feel hungry,
feel cravings, and these medications really regulate those so that
we can follow what our intended plan is for long
periods of time that can generate weight loss. So these
medications are physiologic. I will say they're safe and effective,

(27:58):
because if they weren't, they have to be able to
let them be out there. They have to be tested
before they come to market, be proven to have more
benefit than they do risk. But yes there are risks,
and any hones says this is a side effect. Free
medication is not telling the truth. That is completely untruth.
So you always want to mitigate as an individual, do

(28:18):
you have more risk than you do?

Speaker 4 (28:20):
So if a.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Medication is making you vomit every day you're not losing weight,
then that's too risky with no benefit. That's not for you,
and that's why you want to use these with the help,
the advice and the continue monitoring of an experienced medical professional.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Absolutely absolutely well, Doc, I just want to say thank
you so much for all that you've done continue to do.
Your passion for this is just is so amazing. And
the fact that you yourself has experience obesity as a
child and you use that to really drive what makes

(28:59):
you fun, what makes you continue to pursue this, And
you've touched and helped so many people. You continue to
touch and help so many people. You're a blessing to
so many of us, and we're so so excited, so
happy to have you as a teammate on the tackle
Obesity Squad.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
I really do, truly love to have a passion for
treating this condition to help people feel better, live longer.
It really is so important and it's something that you'll
have to do for life. Your plan will change throughout
your life, but it has to always be addressed absolutely.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Doc, once again, it is a pleasure. Make sure guys
you visit tackleobesity dot com. You will see a lot
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Speaker 4 (32:07):
Hey, listen up, this is Coach Walker. Welcome to another
episode of Tackle Obesity. We have a very very very
very special show for you union today. So that you said,
I do want to bring on my teammate because we
don't do guests around here when we do teammates, and
this is the ultimate teammate. This is the man who

(32:27):
got me started on this journey. I had the opportunity
to meet Russ when I was covering the Super Bowl
and sadulus h when we're gonna go, you know, very
deep into that story. Russell Allc is the volunteer director
for the UNFL Alumni Tackle OBSI program and he's joined
us right now. Russ, how are you doing today, Richard?

Speaker 6 (32:48):
I'm doing great. And that was a wonderful kind of
preamble there with great insights. It's it's you know, It's
inspiring what you had to say. So thank you for
having me as your guest, and UH can't can't wait
to get into all the stuff we know and can share.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
And like I said before, guest is a dirty word
right here, we use teammates. You're only our guests and
your in your life, so have ever used that word
around me? So the first thing I want to do
is just kind of share with everyone because you and
I have have we have such a unique relationship. So

(33:28):
I want to go back to that that moment where
you and I met at the convention center in Lost
in Los Angeles. At the time, you know, I'm well
over four hundred I don't even know how many how
much I wait when I when I finally started losing weight,
I went to the doctor. I weighed in at four
hundred and twenty five hours. I was bigger than that
before that when you and I met. Uh, So let's

(33:49):
talk about that that experience. You know, what do you
recall from from from our first meeting.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Well, I, you know, first of all, to get the
audience kind of an understanding. The super Bowl has what
they call radio row on media row, and what they
do is they take a huge convention room and they
fill it with lily one hundred and fifty to two
hundred media outlets, each of which have something as simple

(34:15):
as a table and a mic, to where they have
elaborate boost and extensive like Fox and Serious and so on.
So in the middle of all that, they have a
green room where members of the media can go up
and get something to eat and relax and got to
get back because it's it's intense being in that room

(34:37):
just being in the room, let alone the constant interaction
that you experienced. So anyway, I'm up there, chilling and
trying to get my where do I go next? Thing going?
And you know, Richard sits near me, and I just
chat him up a bit and I tell him what
I'm doing, and you know, he says, you know, I'm
getting married. I think I could do what you're talking

(34:59):
to about. And look, there were.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Man's full of gyps and all this stuff in front
of him.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
And I'm going right, and hey stands up and Richard's
sixty six and then' on a good day five six,
And uh, I'm thinking, oh, yeah, right, this is so. Anyway,
he got back in touch with me and said, I'm
serious I'm going to do it. So I coached him,
we got him set up with a with a meal
replacement program, and the rest is history. We've become very

(35:31):
close friends as well as business partners. And Richard lost
on a meal replacement program over ninety pounds went in
about six months. And you know, you did it in
many ways, but just getting rid of the terrible habits
that he had, and Richard, you can elaborate on those.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
It was just a matter hope. You know, As I
mentioned in the preamble, I'll make your free free agent acquisitions.
And one of the things that I learned through this
journey and I want to share with all of you guys,
is that there there are alternate ways to live without
having to make, you know, huge sacrifices. As I mentioned before,
I'm a postive guy, I'm a rice guy. I'm a

(36:12):
sweet guy. So these these are things that I had
to find a way to substitute. So the players that
I had working for me on my roster prior to
this this wellness journey simply weren't getting the job done.
Or they were getting a job done as far as
an obesity perspective, but they were not good for me.
So I had to cut those players. I had to
get rid of them, and I replaced them with things

(36:35):
such as month frum sweetener, uh you know, and and
non process substitutes. So you have to do some homework,
you have to do some research. The information is out there,
and once you make these these substitutes and it becomes
a part of your routine, then you see the sustainable results.

(36:57):
And that's what allowed me to stick to the plan, because,
be honest, everyone is tried. It feels so many times
because they try to put themselves in the box and
they say, I'm only gonna eat Salady Chicken for three months,
and some people may be able to do that, but
the first time you get a slice of pizza or
a candy bar or something else, you're gonna deviate back

(37:18):
to who work. So you have to instead of changing
the playbook, you change the personnel. That's the mindset that
you have to adapt towards towards this.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
This will just add to that. The Wall Street Journal
today ran an article about the addictive nature of ultra
processed foods and that it is literally to your body.
Is if you are taking a drug and it stimulates
the brain, rearing in a very similar fashion your drugs,

(37:48):
which create an addictive response because it releases endorphins, the dopamine,
and that feels so good. And you know, remember Lays
data chips. They used to go that you can't just one.
Well they'll do that anymore because they know, well yeah,
and they know they're selling you addicted foods. So unfortunately,

(38:11):
you know, as Americans, our diet now has gone across
the world, and everywhere they adopt the Western diet, people
get fat, people gain weight, people lose control. I don't
care if it's Asia, India, Africa, it doesn't matter. If
you start incorporating these ulti processed foods in your diet,

(38:32):
you're going to gain weight and you're going to lose
control because you have this addictive response to those foods.
Richard used it.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
How much?

Speaker 6 (38:41):
How much so did you use to drink a week?

Speaker 4 (38:43):
It was he used to drink three twelve packs per week.
So every Sunday light clockwork, eight nine am or so,
I get up in the morning, I go to a
grocery store and I purchase three twelve packs, went for
the office, went for the house, went for the call.
Right now, there'sn't addic type behavior. I don't know what

(39:03):
it is. Like I had to add soda in my vehicle.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I'm hurching.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
It's a portable cooler that worked with my cigarette lighter,
so I keep my marriage this cold when I'm driving.
That's that's addic like behavior. Yeah, yeah, that's that is.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
It's a it's a great example though of and again
just switching to diet soda doesn't resolve it because there's
there's an addictive nature to diet soda as well. Unfortunately.
So there is, as you say, some learning and some
habitual behaviors that you have to change or nothing changes.
So that's where we stress a lifestyle weight laws because

(39:41):
it's really that's what it's about. You have to begin
to change your lifestyle, and then you have to inherit
these things that you learn in that changing process.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
When I've reached a point where I got, you know,
towards the i'd say halfway point of you know, achieving
the initial goal, because you don't ever want to say
achieving dung goal because you should always have something else
to pursue. My favorite, one of my favorite Tom Brady
coats is they Ashton Will was his favorite Super Bowl championship,

(40:12):
you sitting the next one. You should always have a
goal to prepare you for it. So but as I
got halfway through, I was like, this is so great,
Like it would be so selfish of me to keep
this to myself. So I start and I noticed some
people that I annoyed, but I started telling everybody that
would listen, Hey, gosh, you gotta do this, you gotta
do this. It became ashion. And what developed from that is,

(40:37):
you know, I've always I always say I have one
of the biggest miles in the Western Hemisphere, and it
comes from it comes from being that locker room guy.
It comes from being in the hotel, it comes from
being on field and you know, on bus tours with teammates.
I've always been one of the guys that's been the voice,
and that transferred with me when I went into media,

(40:58):
and so I'm able to use the gift that I
have with a platform to share this information. So this
is this is one of the things that drives me
is that I know that I'm not just doing it
for me. I'm helping others. I literally get people that
reach out to me that says, man, you know, I've
been following you, or they called and asked a question

(41:18):
I have. You know some great friends that you know
were inspired by me, and I didn't even ask them
or approached them. You know, one of them that I'm
able to speak his name, Patrick Craigon, my good friend.
He's the host of late Hits on ESPN now except
by You're Houston. Patrick saw my journey. He saw when
I got to the seventy eighty ninety pound bark. He

(41:39):
was like, dude, you are just so inspiring. He's like,
I just want you to know I started my own
journey and he lost sixty pounds because he was inspired
by me, and he got he was able to drop
his his diabetes mans. He got his neighbor one see right,
and he was able to get all blood fresh mens.
And so that's the kind of stuff that fires me up,
is you know, here in these wonderful testimonies from people

(42:02):
that you never know who you're gonna touch. So one
of the things that will help keep you going is
to share your story with others, your information with others,
ask people, ask questions, and most importantly, have an accountability partner.
Having a coach someone you don't line is critical.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
You can lie to yourself for years.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Right, It's truly true.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
I feel like Andy Reid here, I got a coaching
drig going right.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
And you know the reason that you know a lot
of people fail is that they just they they can
do it themselves, or you know, in some cases, especially
men were hard hitted, and we don't like to reach
out for assistance because we've been conditioning that we got
the warrior mindset. We can do this all alone. No
one has ever accomplished anything great by buying themselves. Tiger Woods,

(42:54):
Michael Jordans Am and Olley, you name it. They had
a coach. They had someone that develed them along the way,
someone that coached them, someone that kicked them in the
rear end on those days where they didn't want to
do things, someone that pointed out their flaws. You know,
Michael Jordan had a sixty something point game and Phil Jackson,
you know after the game, so, oh yeah that was nice.

(43:17):
It's it's an ego stroke. Yeah, you had a sixty
some point game. You could have had seventy point game
had you made a couple of free throws that you missed.
So the same type of mindset goes towards you will
You got to have someone that's that voice in your
ear to keep you going, you know, and this is
what keeps you on track and when you when you
also provide that to others if it keeps the fuel

(43:39):
going in you. So this is just you know, just
feedback that we're sharing with her when you know.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Well you know me positive feedback of where you're you
are making results. So think about when you begin to
get control of your way. Is people do reach you know,
they just speak up and say them, well you look good,
and that's that's reinforced. But the real question is do
I feel good? And is my body making the changes

(44:08):
that I need to protect my wellness? You know, because
one of one of our guys that I worked with
is Otis Anderson and that you know in his first
challenge was just back in twenty fourteen, we sat down
with a doctor and she pointed out a major piece
of his banker is no longer work because of his lifestyle,

(44:29):
because of his weight. And Otis is now you know,
we've gone very close and you know he's he's really
I went out to breakfast with him after we met
with a Commissioner of Health and we just got by
the way. I don't know, Kathleen, if you've got that photo,
you can bring it up. But if you can find
that and just break in when you can. We Otis

(44:51):
and I met with the New York City Commissioner out
and we were issued by Mayor Adams and delivered by
the com the proclamation declaring March to be Tackle Obesity
Month in New York City. And that is so gratifying,
I mean just incredibly gratifying. Uh. And you know, we're

(45:14):
going to take it from there. Richard's working on different
cities with may and we're going to expand this out
and hopefully within the city of New York I'll be
able to reach a greater greater audience as well. And
you know, of course, you know, we were able to
get some TV coverage on it, and and we're going
to expand this whole notion of Tackle Obesity Month because

(45:36):
at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if
it's March or April or May or June. It still applies.
You need to learn want to tackle obesity, and it's obesity.
You know when this started, uh, it actually started before
I was involved. Uh. One of our guys, John Carlucci,
had brought Noble Nordisk to the NFL alumni, and this

(45:57):
is four and a half years ago, and the program
started out, huddle up, let's talk obesity, and that was
that was John's really idea behind it. And back then
talk using the old word was kind of dicey thing
because you know, people get to get offended and you
know whatever, and nobody wanted to consider themselves abaste.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
I remember the doctor who looked at my chart.

Speaker 6 (46:22):
And went, oh, well, well you're obese.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Went what.

Speaker 6 (46:26):
It was like he could have you know, it's like
cold water on my face or on my whole body.
Oh you know. So anyway, we got to the point
where got a lot of our NFL alumni members who
had responded to a survey. Sixty percent plus of our
NFL alumni were dealing with obesity at different stages. And

(46:49):
that shortens your life, It increases the possibility our disease.
You're almost guaranteed to get type two diabetes, which quadruples
your heart disease risk. So it's it's one of those
things that you've got to be aware of. So I
got involved because one of our leaders, bart Oates, called
me and said, Russ, you ran this wellness challenge before.
Can you come do it now? For the NFL alumni, absolutely,

(47:12):
bart So we did it and then our first year
we had eighteen guys and sixteen up, no, fifteen of
them lost thirty five plus pounds. So that was a
big hit and the alumni really got behind it, and
our sponsor, Novo got behind it. And then we've expanded
it so every year it got more and more kind

(47:33):
of inclusive and farther reaching. So this this honor by
the Mayor of New York and by the Health Commissioner
in New York of you know, proclaiming the Tackle Obesity
Month is really astounding and one opportunity for us. Now
in that first year when we did an email to

(47:53):
NFL alumni members, one of our members of Dick Buckets,
who is you know, all everything when it comes legendary,
you run out of superlatives for Dick. But anyway, he said,
I want to do it, and so I actually went
out to California and met with him at his home
and I set up Dick and what to do, trained

(48:16):
him how to do it, and pretty much got out
of the way because he then went on at seventy
nine years old lost forty seven pounds and it was
amazing and he kept it off unfortunately until he passed
this last year. And it you know, but Dick really
sent an example for people and he inspired so many

(48:38):
people and he really benefited from it himself. And so
you know this program which is now called Tackle Obesity.
So it went from let's talk about it, so let's
get our guys well to now let's inspire the world
to tackle obesity themselves and empower people to do it.

(48:58):
So we're partnering with a lot of different to to
do it. Reach out and communicate and train and inspire
people and then support them in their journey. Which is
really crude. Yeah, here we are in New York City.
Who somebody took my hair? No, this is Otis Anderson

(49:19):
and Commissioner of ASADE, doctor Wassan here in New York City,
which was just on March fourth, World Obesity Day. And
now we're going to really communicate obesity is a medical condition,
not a character fall.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Richard.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
That's something people when they're when they're fighting obesity, you know,
it's it's you do tend to you know, point it
yourself and think, you know, because you have to you
have to hold yourself accountable. The question is how do
you do it in such a way that you you
put you know, the problem over here and then just

(49:56):
like a coach, you know, Okay, who do I put in.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
To beat that?

Speaker 6 (50:00):
And we'll love the way you're able to create these
analogies of life and what we're doing around football, because
it really makes it makes it easy, and it you know,
kind of takes the pressure off, you know, and so
uh it you know, very appy about that.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
One of the things that you know, as fans, you know,
we're all a tune with stats, and I think the
same is true with wellness. But unfortunately we'll have enough
detail as it pertains to stats. The one stat that
everyone focuses on is the w work. It's the way, yeah,
but there are other measurables that are key, ohs, as

(50:41):
it pertains to your wellness, so talk to us.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
More much more important is your precent body fat because
if you're muscular, you you will quote a quote, be
obese on the B and my scale, and you're right.
And you know there are people that are skinny fat
which means they're actually skinny, but that you have a
lot of fat, which is like, wait a minute, let's
say it. But that's the reality. So percent we like

(51:05):
to use present body fat. If you're going to focus
on a single kbi, now the reality is you got
blood pressure, you got all these other lipid levels and
also on that could be part of of the things
you measure, and and particularly a one C. People don't
realize that they can cure type two diabetes by getting
control of their way cure it. Never have to do.

(51:27):
Your friend then you mentioned cured it. He not ridly
and that is diabetes is a train wreck for your body,
It really is. And to be to be on those
medications and to be uh in that situation not easy.
So we're getting close.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
With You're gonna do a wrap up here absolutely with
you know, to kind of just touch on that. He's
here's here's food for thought. If you go based upon
b M I only, I think everyone knows Dwayne Johnson
aka the Rock. If you based upon being my only,
he's war than le obese.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
I think it's pretty fair to say that you know
this is not the case. Yeah, that's not the case. Well,
it is always and will continue to be a pleasure
working with you Russ.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
You know our partnership, you know literally added quality years
to my life and there's no one to.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
Thank the NFL alumni and nob in orders for it.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Yeah between Russ, you show the picture. Kathleen, Twig and Russ.
We have been confused with all the time, you know,
and you know we're very but uh, I do want
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Speaker 16 (59:44):
Hey, Southern California. You know what's going on. It's my
new hitch show, The Scene with Doreen, and I'm your host,
Doren Taylor. Join me every week as I chat with
my celebrity friends from TV, movies, music, theater, sports, and
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of some of the entertainment industry's biggest names, with some
fun surprises too. Tune into the Scene with Dorian Tuesdays

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at seven am on KCA.